Reptillians/Aliens----------Don't Shape Shift

[DNA]

I'm guessing the current craze concerning shape shifting aliens started with David Icke, and continued with random supposed eye witnesses, like a security guard who claimed they worked at area-51 or Dulce and they witnessed such a transformation.

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I'm not trying to put a limitation on the powers of mother nature, nor the powers of genetic tinkering, but I don't think transformations such as this are what are taking place.

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Ingo Swann in his book PENETRATION (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/03PDF/Penetration_Ingo_Swann.pdf)<--(free PDF) stated that it was his experience through remote viewing (he invented it) and working with the black ops, shadow government, that it was his opinion that ET's possesed telepathy+. Note, that is the word telepathy with a plus next to it. Telepathy would enable you to read someone's mind while telepathy+ would enable you to project something into someone's mind.
There was an incident in this book when Ingo ran into "The most beautifull woman" at a grocery store, who he then realized "psychically" that she was an alien. The woman had a black ops guard protecting her who recognzied Ingo and reported the incident, Ingo was later quesitoned by black ops intelligence about "what he saw" and when he said a beautifull woman they seemed satisfied. Was she a woman at all? Was she even a human looking ET at all?
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Dr. David Jacobs in his book the threat, talks about a common theme seen in UFO abductions. One of the constants that no one was catching in his opinion was of an alien grey practically touching forheads with the abducted and projecting a "scene" or "scenario" that was misleading and had nothing to do with the actual abduction.
Jacobs then went on to talk about the unfolding scenario of abductions in relation to the removal of sperm and ova, and what seemed to be a hybridazation program. This program, Jacobs theorized, would create a strain of human that possesed this telepathy+ ability.

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In Robert MorningSky's, THE TERRA PAPERS (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/08PDF_Files/The_Terra_Papers_Parts_1_and_2.pdf), <--(freePDF) MorningSky recounts the story of a downed UFO in New Mexico fifty years ago that his grandfather witnessed. His grandfather with the help of a few other Apache Indians from the reservation found, helped and rescued an alien survivor of the crash who while hiding with the Indians told them the secret history of earth, which agreed very much with what Zacharia Sitchen has stated. MorningSky was told by his grandfather when he asked what the alien looked like that "the alien could appear to you however it wanted to appear to you".

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In THE LACERTA FILES INTERVIEW WITH A REPTILLIAN (http://www.scribd.com/doc/39838405/THE-LACERTA-FILES-I-II) <--(free read) Probably the most controversial source I'm using, a supposed reptillian female discloses to a human male in Swedan that her kind could walk among human's with little or no problem because of the fault programmed into the human brain by our makers (she talks about a group of beings not reptillian that sound very much like the beings in robert morningsky's terra pappers and Sitchin's annunaki) who made mankind with a mind easy to control via telepathy+ and that her kind could project the image of a human into our mind with ease over there own image.

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I just have to state, I would'nt list the Lacerta Interview here because of how controversial it is, but, I have found a lot of corrolation for it.
Her creation myth of earth is very impressive.
She talks at length about her people's craft being cigar shaped.
I live next to The Superstition Mountains a rumored base for the Reptillians and I've talked to a dozen eyewitnesses of a low flying cigar shaped shift at a rave at the base of the superstions. I have a freind independent from the dozen who took a picture of a cigar shaped ship at the superstitions and only saw it after the film was devoloped.
And Lacerta's description of look out office data rooms that are ports of entry above subturanean bases matches the same description a woman in arizona hiking in the superstitions gave when she was abducted as she happened on to one of these ports of entry and suffered a memory wipe that was only recovered through hypnotherapy.

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In closing I don't think Reptillians or aliens shape shift, I believe they can appear to us however they want,,,which,,when you think about it,,,makes the idea of the Nordics or human looking aliens seem,,,,,,dubious.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

I think the reptillian shapeshifter meme is just an easy way to talk about two faced humans using the lower parts of their brains to project one thing and do the exact opposite.
To me it may as well be the same thing.

[RedeZra]

Ingo Swann in his book PENETRATION (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/03PDF/Penetration_Ingo_Swann.pdf)<--(free PDF) stated that it was his experience through remote viewing (he invented it) and working with the black ops, shadow government, that it was his opinion that ET's possesed telepathy+. Note, that is the word telepathy with a plus next to it. Telepathy would enable you to read someone's mind while telepathy+ would enable you to project something into someone's mind.


Yes this is an important point

they are able to transmit thought streams into our perception and therby present a virtual reality which of course seem real to us

also they are able to transport our physical bodies through space at least perhaps through time too

they are quite capable ; )


is it any wonder that the PTB is in league with them

[daledo]

Credo Mutwa has alot to say about the reptilians.

[PHARAOH]

We all shapeshift. Do we really believe we are the same person when we are at peace as when we are in the middle of a battle ? We do this all the time without even noticing. Ever hear someone ask "what's wrong, are you ok"? Well obviously you have transformed or shapeshifted. When we get angry we all shapeshift and are no longer the same. We look different, we act different, we are in a different "state of mind" so to speak, thus we shapeshift. Some can take this shapeshifting to a new meaning as thier genes may allow for a much more dramatic change; but none the less we all shapeshift.

[RedeZra]

the Vikings - well at least some of them - were infamous for 'going berserk' in battle

these Beserks were a closed clan or cult of ferocious warriors

who used to hunt predators like bears and wolfs and then drink their blood and ritually invite the spirits of these predators into their own bodies

that's why they could exhibit such an extraordinary and pretty much indiscriminate rage killing both friends and foe alike

they became possessed by the spirits of strong but trapped animals and even took on a slight physical resemblance of the trapped animal spirit inside

after the rage these Berserks would be exhausted for days ; )

[Nice1]

I think the reptillian shapeshifter meme is just an easy way to talk about two faced humans using the lower parts of their brains to project one thing and do the exact opposite.
To me it may as well be the same thing.


Thats exactly my thinking. I have studied David Ickes theory but he has very very little evidence IMO. The evidence he did present was really obscure like saying that gargoyles are evidence of shape shifting aliens is a huge jump to me.

There may well be reptilian looking aliens but from my research they have not ever been reported in any of the abduction cases that I consider to be credible.

I personally think that humans are very capable of enslaving one another and doing terrible things. We don't need to say they must be reptilian aliens to account for their actions.

[toothpick]

I have seen and read alot about shape shifters, reptilians and whatever else, from David Icke, Credo Matwa( personal favorite) and Ingo Swann a brilliant man,
But, even with what I think I know is the truth because of how much I respect who I heard it from, I,m sorry.
This for me is simply something I have to see for myself before I will truly believe it.
I know, be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

toothpick

[sunwings]

Well 9 years later I see #shapeshiftingcreep is Trending on Twitter! With 20k tweets using the phrase.

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Actually is was used by Obama's Aide in refernce to Boris Johnson.

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[sunwings]

This is caught my eye. Who is this figure? Why are they wearing a baseball cap at a remembrance event? Why does it not look human?

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[9ideon]

One can easily phase out due to the use of frequential technology, personally I believe this is the cause of many of the Shadow People sightings, not going into that now, still, it makes sense. I guess one could manipulate a field to appear different as well, but I never believed in the Shapeshifting paradigm set by Icke.

[Journeyman]

This is caught my eye. Who is this figure? Why are they wearing a baseball cap at a remembrance event? Why does it not look human?


I awoke convinced I'm living in 'Rosemary's Baby' something happens at breakfast reminds me I actually live in 'The Matrix'. Then, before I can adjust it's clear that it's really 'They Live'.

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By the end of the day I'm betting that it's 'Children of Men' or perhaps 'The Stand'

[haroldsails]

Someone must recognize the logo on the ball cap - the resolution is too low to read, but the shape of it, and the script on the right side. Maybe a security person in dark glasses that are reflecting a bright light....maybe?

[haroldsails]

Zoomed in it appears to be edited (photo-shoped?) around the head and eyes. With some added greenish texture. I have no experience here, but that is how it appears on my monitor.
I believe anything is possible, so don't take this as nay-saying.

[sunwings]

Zoomed in it appears to be edited (photo-shoped?) around the head and eyes.

Possible, but the photo is from McConnel's own twitter acount. However, the head and eyes do look very strange.




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This is caught my eye. Who is this figure? Why are they wearing a baseball cap at a remembrance event? Why does it not look human?


I awoke convinced I'm living in 'Rosemary's Baby' something happens at breakfast reminds me I actually live in 'The Matrix'. Then, before I can adjust it's clear that it's really 'They Live'.

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By the end of the day I'm betting that it's 'Children of Men' or perhaps 'The Stand'

I had to watch A trailer of Rosemary's baby, the opening scene of children of men, and the last scene from The Stand to fully get the joke! I laughed so hard, one of the funniest comments I have ever seen on PA.

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[TomKat]

We all shapeshift. Do we really believe we are the same person when we are at peace as when we are in the middle of a battle ? We do this all the time without even noticing. Ever hear someone ask "what's wrong, are you ok"? Well obviously you have transformed or shapeshifted. When we get angry we all shapeshift and are no longer the same. We look different, we act different, we are in a different "state of mind" so to speak, thus we shapeshift. Some can take this shapeshifting to a new meaning as thier genes may allow for a much more dramatic change; but none the less we all shapeshift.

Kind of brings to mind expressions such as "he's in bad shape" (emotionally), or "he's crooked," "he's a yellow coward," "green with envy." Astral body stuff.

[TomKat]

In closing I don't think Reptillians or aliens shape shift, I believe they can appear to us however they want,,,which,,when you think about it,,,makes the idea of the Nordics or human looking aliens seem,,,,,,dubious.

Some people report a borderland or etheric part of our world that beings (such as bigfoot, men in black) and even machinery (black helicopters, flying saucers) can disappear into. They can phase into or out of our visual spectrum. Maybe they can appear however they like to us. And I wonder if that etheric plane is the ACTUAL world, of which we are somehow existing on the periphery. It seems that any unusual spurt of consciousness from our side disturbs these "etherions" and they come to frighten us back into our oblivious state. This is possibly where the REAL secret government lives. And the secret space program, also. To get to the moon in a half hour as Niara Isely reports (piloted by a reptilian) -- this might explain that. I've had vivid dreams of seeing space ships morphing into conventional craft and back and feeling like I was seeing a side of reality I'd forgotten about.

[mojo]

First a shout out to DNA... missing you bro... TomKat that was a great assessment. One of the most amazing things I witnessed was a craft appear out of nowhere. There were 4-6 small beings that just materialized on the deck. They moved with superhuman speed and acted as one accord first their bodies formed before my eyes and they moved to a different section and performed some task after a few seconds they moved again with superhuman speed and back at their original location just disappeared with craft as well. So, I think speed is another factor that related to the frequency of all things. I personally look forward to another witness going public one day that can help to validate faster than human speed. So far I have not heard that testimony.

[justntime2learn]

First a shout out to DNA... missing you bro... TomKat that was a great assessment. One of the most amazing things I witnessed was a craft appear out of nowhere. There were 4-6 small beings that just materialized on the deck. They moved with superhuman speed and acted as one accord first their bodies formed before my eyes and they moved to a different section and performed some task after a few seconds they moved again with superhuman speed and back at their original location just disappeared with craft as well. So, I think speed is another factor that related to the frequency of all things. I personally look forward to another witness going public one day that can help to validate faster than human speed. So far I have not heard that testimony.

I just sent Marcus (DNA) a text including your post :heart:

Blessings and great to see you back mojo.

[RunningDeer]

First a shout out to DNA... missing you bro... TomKat that was a great assessment. One of the most amazing things I witnessed was a craft appear out of nowhere. There were 4-6 small beings that just materialized on the deck. They moved with superhuman speed and acted as one accord first their bodies formed before my eyes and they moved to a different section and performed some task after a few seconds they moved again with superhuman speed and back at their original location just disappeared with craft as well. So, I think speed is another factor that related to the frequency of all things. I personally look forward to another witness going public one day that can help to validate faster than human speed. So far I have not heard that testimony.

I just sent Marcus (DNA) a text including your post :heart:

Blessings and great to see you back mojo.

That was nice of you, justntime2learn. Your thoughtfulness is always appreciated by me.
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DNA's around. He's a frequent visitor to the "Q" thread. At one point I left him a hello message there. I don't know if he caught it.


First a shout out to DNA... missing you bro... TomKat that was a great assessment. One of the most amazing things I witnessed was a craft appear out of nowhere. There were 4-6 small beings that just materialized on the deck. They moved with superhuman speed and acted as one accord first their bodies formed before my eyes and they moved to a different section and performed some task after a few seconds they moved again with superhuman speed and back at their original location just disappeared with craft as well. So, I think speed is another factor that related to the frequency of all things. I personally look forward to another witness going public one day that can help to validate faster than human speed. So far I have not heard that testimony.
mojo, a great big HOLY MACKEREL to your post! http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/s-rock-on.gif

I wanted to say something earlier, but I haven't figured out a way to not leave anyone out. Which is the main reason why I view a lot of threads in silent mode.

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[gini]

Apr 6, 2023 #AncientTechnology #PraveenMohan #hinduism-13 min
Did ancient people worship lizards? Are reptiles Gods? Why did ancient builders carve and pray to lizards?-7vSYUGd43Y8---0:00 - Shape Shifting Lizards
1:23 - The Visible Third Eye
2:59 - A Divine Creature
4:36 - Jesus Christ Lizard
5:17 - A Giant Lizard in Tanjavur
5:48 - Fire Resistant Lizards
7:35 - The Golden Lizard
8:11 - Secret Worships in America
9:26 - Connection between Lizards & Humans
11:13 - Reptile Worships
11:59 - The First GOD?
12:55 - Conclusion

In Ancient Times, people around the world, worshipped Lizards as Gods. This is largely forbidden and forgotten today, but in India, there is a 1800 year old temple, and you can see devotees lining up to touch and worship a carving of a Lizard. Actually, there are 2 lizards here, one is a giant Golden lizard, and the other one is a smaller, silver lizard. Today, they have put metal engravings, covering the ancient stone carvings behind them. And worshipping lizards is not a recent practice, the name of this temple is Varadaraja Perumal Temple and it was built in the 3rd Century A.D, so this worship started at least 1800 years ago. Ancient Indians believed that Lizards and other reptile like beings came from the sky, and had magical powers like Shape Shifting. Even today, you can see that Hindus believe that these Lizards can help them heal from their diseases and bring them good fortune.
But this is not the only Indian temple where Lizards are worshipped as Gods. There is another temple called Balligiri, where there is another Lizard engraving on a piece of metal. In this temple too, it is worshipped as a God of Good fortune.
But this is strange, right? Even if you are a Hindu, you are probably be surprised that Lizards are still worshipped as Gods, because I am showing you a rare phenomenon. But why are they worshipped as Gods? Because Lizards have a third eye, yes they physically have a third eye, called the parietal eye, and many times it is located, exactly where you want it to be located. Yes, on the forehead, between the 2 eyes, very similar to the third eye depiction in Hinduism. And, not only does it look like an eye, in some lizards like the Tuatara, it also has a lens, cornea and a retina like an actual eye. Scientists now confirm that this third eye can not only sense light, it can also be used as a GPS navigation system. And guess what, it is part of the Pineal complex, meaning it functions with the pineal gland.
Some claim that in Ancient India, a type of Lizard people or Lizard Gods existed, and they co-existed with humans. These reptiles were quite sophisticated and they even assisted some kings in war. In this ancient temple, you can see a battle scene. Here is a soldier on a horse, wielding his sword. At the bottom, there is another man with a sword in one hand and a shield in the other hand. But what is that scaly thing next to him? Look at its skin, you are immediately reminded of a crocodile, but it is standing on two legs, and see what it is about to do. It is about to bite a man’s head off, alive. Look at the size of the Lizard and the size of the Human, the Lizard being is quite large, it is taking out one man with a single bite, and is handling another man with its claws. There are no such giant Lizards today, and what I find interesting is that its third eye is covered with a religious symbol called Urdhva Pundra, this symbol is also worn by Lord Vishnu and his followers, clearly indicating that this Lizard is not just some random animal, but rather a divine, Lizard person.
Indian texts talk about a Lizard called Nriga, who could shapeshift into a human whenever he wanted. They also mention that he could change his skin color like a Chameleon and blend with the surroundings. According to some, he was also capable of walking on water. This is really interesting, because some Lizards can walk on water. In the Americas, the Basilisk is more commonly known as the Jesus Christ Lizard, because it can walk on water.

[jaybee]

Apr 6, 2023 #AncientTechnology #PraveenMohan #hinduism-13 min
Did ancient people worship lizards? Are reptiles Gods? Why did ancient builders carve and pray to lizards?-

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fascinating short(ish) video - thanks gini.... I wonder if the lizard is worshipped because the first hybrid that was created to live on earth was a dinosaur/lizard~like hybrid - and a race of advanced Beings used the hybrid to work for them as in the Annunnaki Story coming from Sitchin's research.... this first stage hybrid could exist in the atmospheric conditions that existed but when Earth changes took place the atmosphere changed so much another hybrid had to be created out of the first dinosaur/lizard like one - and we were born...

Theories of a thick atmosphere in Dinosaur Times makes sense - creatures as big as dinosaurs couldn't exist in our atmosphere as growth size and everything is limited by the environment -

https://www.dinosaurtheory.com/thick_atmosphere.html


It may be hard to imagine that the Earth’s air could be so thick that its density would be comparable to water. Nevertheless, there is no reason why a gas can not be compressed so much that it has properties similar to that of a liquid, and in fact compressing a gas into a liquid is a common industrial process.

In order to compress the air near the Earth’s surface, there has to be a substantial amount of overlapping air pressing down on the ground level air. Thus the high density ground level air is evidence of an extremely thick Mesozoic atmosphere.


General comment on thread topic.... Could the shape shifting hypothesis be turned around - and the shifting comes from the observer being able to shift perception + see the amphibian/lizard like creature embedded in our appearance and DNA... from a (speculated) first hybrid... which would have been God~like in it's time...

Perhaps this is all in the Adam and Eve story of the Bible where the old hybrid was incorporated into and made way for the new one - and the new human man and woman was released into the wild - so to speak... :)
- (after working for the Anunnaki for a period of time, maybe)

[jaybee]

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{speculation}............... one of the Anunnaki + dinosaur/lizard like hybrids represented by the famous Ubaid statues... that was genetically engineered further with primates? to become Humankind as we know it now when the atmosphere changed dramatically over time... and this is what we can see in ourselves when perception shifts...

https://i.stack.imgur.com/ZdZWe.png
https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/52154/what-is-known-about-the-ubaid-lizard-people-figurines

[peace]

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always find this one interesting. not a fan of stern (LOVE Siamese Dream)

OH! also, the jordan maxell story, I always think this is about the billionaire, bob bigelow, though that is unconfirmed and just my guess, anyone know?

this one gives me the willies:

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i've been around powerful psychics that can play some of these tricks. unsettling. but it's also more than a trick as well, and based on something very, very real, I think.

Corgan may have experienced the human, cargo cult, psychic version. The businessmen may have experienced the physical and psychic REAL version.