homeopathic MMS - latest newsletter on MMS

[kevlor]

the latest newsletter about jim humbles MMS deals with the question of homeopathic MMS. heres a copy.

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MMS as a Homeopathic Remedy?

We at the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing get quite a lot of questions each day. We have been asked numerous times whether it is possible to make a Homeopathic MMS pill. It is necessary for us to address this question, to see if it possible to make an MMS homeopathic pill and if so, does it work and how? Well, let’s look at exactly what is Homeopathy, how a homeopathic pill is made and how or why it could work.

First of all, Homeopathy is a form of alternative medicine in which practitioners treat patients using highly diluted preparations, that are believed to cause healthy people to exhibit symptoms that are similar to those exhibited by the patient. The collective weight of scientific evidence has found homeopathy to be no more effective than a placebo.

A placebo is a sham or simulated medical intervention. Sometimes patients given a placebo treatment will have a perceived or actual improvement in a medical condition, a phenomenon commonly called the placebo effect. In medical research, placebos are given as control treatments and depend on the use of measured deception. Common placebos are inert tablets, sham surgery, and other procedures based on false information. However, placebos can also have a surprisingly positive effect on a patient who knows that the given treatment is without any active drug, as compared with a control group who knowingly did not get a placebo.

In one common placebo procedure, however, a patient is given an inert pill, told that it may improve his/her condition, but not told that it is in fact inert. Such an intervention may cause the patient to believe the treatment will change his/her condition; and this belief may produce a subjective perception of a therapeutic effect, causing the patient to feel their condition has improved.

Consider the placebo effect. In 1955 Henry Beecher concluded that between 30 and 40 percent of any treated group would positively respond to a placebo (sugar pill). When new drugs are tested for FDA approval, they go through a placebo test where results are compared to a sugar pill.New research shows that the placebo success rate may be significantly higher than previously believed, as high as 75%.

The human brain is very powerful and can stimulate the body’s own immune system to heal itself.

Placebo effects can last for a long time: over 8 weeks for panic disorder, 6 months for angina pectoris, and two and half years for rheumatoid arthritis. Placebo effects after verbal suggestion for mild pain can be robust and still exist after being repeated ten times even if they have no actual pharmacological pain killing action.

MMS energy/frequency pills are another experimental remedy some are trying. The idea is by a gentle frequency the pathogens will be targeted energetically to change their vibration so they can no longer survive. Does this work? We have tried these pills to no avail. Again, if there is a person who has had results, then could this just be the placebo effect or the brain stimulating the immune system?

We at the Genesis II Church do not endorse taking MMS homeopathic or energy pills/frequency pills as anything more than as an experimental remedy. But, remember the placebo effect it can bring. Don’t try to purify water with these pills though!!!

MMS, is a 28% Sodium Chlorite solution that when mixed with a citric acid produces Chlorine Dioxide, which is well known and proven to be a broad spectrum anti-microbial agent. Chlorine dioxide has been used to kill Anthrax and Black mold after the Katrina disaster. It is used in hospitals, meat packing plants and water treatment all over the world to kill 99% of viruses, bacteria, germs and fungi. The Malaria parasite is killed in the blood in 4 hours when ingested in small, safe doses. We are seeing great results with Autism with 15 children no longer being diagnosed as having Autism; go to www.autismo.com, or www.curandoelautismo.org for more info. These sites are in English also.

Testimonies come in every week from people using Chlorine Dioxide, MMS, because it works when following the correct safe protocols. See all the testimonies at Jimhumble.biz and MMSanswers.org.

You can experiment with these alternative experimental remedies, and they may very well help, but if you are sick, take the liquid MMS and follow the proven protocols for your particular disease or ailment.

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this subject was discussed about four months back, and raised more questions then it answered. hope this helps ... kev

[Arrowwind]

Obiousoly Jim Humble, or whom ever wrote that, does not know much about homeopathy. Placebo does not work on animals, nor infants, nor plants. all of which respond to correct homeopathic applications.

I read the site that produces the "homeopathic"
MMS. and it to does not know what homeoapthy is nor how it works either. Homeopathic MMS is a fraud.

[Mark Aldebaran]

Chapter 12 of 13 Things That Don't Make Sense by Michael Brooks contains an interesting discussion on placebos and homeopathy.

[Arrowwind]

Homeopathy only makes no sense to those who armchair the situation. Use homepathy in a clinical setting and you will see the reality of it. It is not placebo. It is empirical science.

Why should homoepathy be placebo to cure and drugs not?
why does a drug not cure and when the next medicine that comes is homeoapthy and it cures, but must be placebo?
do you have any concept on how difficult it is to select the correct homeoapthic remedy, the years of study? the volumens of information a homeopath must integrate before he knows how to select a correct remedy?
clueless,,, most people are clueless to the reality of homeopathy and just what it takes to select a curative remedy... then they want to slam this science as placebo mumbo jumbo.

I gave my kids, age 3.5 and 5 years tons of drugs with no cure. One dose of homeoapthy and they were cured.
I have managed to cure my cats of some nasty diseases with homeoapthy also.. why of course! I forgot. Cats are masters of placebo effect!

[kevlor]

hi arrowwind - i knew this would be controversial. turns out very much so, as another newsletter has followed to try and explain.

i always read your inputs and recognise your knowledge on alternative health matters. i would like to read your comments on this second newsletter. ... kev

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HOMEOPATHY

The Genesis II Church of health and healing is not against homeopathy.

May 25,2011

We received several letters from people who were feeling disagreement with our position concerning Homeopathy. I didn't feel that they were irritated with us, it was just that they felt that we were disagreeing with the philosophy and understanding of Homeopathy. They then proceeded to explain the basics to us. I appreciated their position. But the facts are we were never against Homeopathy. I hope I am making that clear.

The Genesis II Church is not against any form of healing that does not create damage to the human body. We are for anything that works. I think most of our members also take this position.

What we are trying to also make clear is the position of MMS or what we call the cleansing water of the Church and our Sacraments (protocols). In just a few short years MMS has save hundreds of thousands of lives and when used with skill and understanding it is 98% effective against 98% of the diseases of mankind. It is even highly effective when used by totally untrained and inexperienced persons but somewhat less effective than the figures given.

There are people who are trying to make it look like the use of homeopathic pills is more effective than MMS and they are saying that the use of these pills are a protocol and thus a Sacrament of the Church. But do you see? We cannot agree to this. I have not agreed to the use of the pills in place of the MMS. A thorough search of the Internet does not show any clinical data or trials that prove that homeopathy is any more effective than 30%. Thus if people begin to use homeopathic pills instead of MMS protocols they will often be disappointed and that will reflect on MMS.

I have been in the alternate healing field for 60 years and during that time I have seen hundreds of people disappointed when using homeopathic remedies and hundreds of other remedies. I know you understand I can't stop people from saying that homeopathic pills are more effective that MMS. But I must at least put out a NEWSLETTER stating that this has not been proven to be true, and that while homeopathic stores sell the homeopathic remedies successfully, I have never heard of such a store do as we do. We go out into the local country side and successfully treat at least 100 individuals for everything you can possibly think of at least least 3 days a month and often more. That's 300 people a month here in the local country side at our expenses, the money obtained by teaching people about MMS. We treat them for hundreds of different kinds of skin diseases, for flu, bad digestion, cancer, hep C, and dozens of diseases that have not been diagnosed.

When someone can prove that homeopathy can do these things I hope to be the first one on the band wagon as I want our church to have all the best healing devices and medicines in the world. I once said that someone could sell homeopathic on a Church Web site if they put Experimental on the homeopathy. But the experimental part didn't happen.

So I hope you understand we are not against homeopathy, but rather just want people to use MMS if possible as we believe that they have a better chance with MMS.

NEWSLETTER to come telling more about overcoming the bad taste and also a new protocol.

As always with love,
Bishop Jim



P.S. Please look at our new website – mmsworldcourt.org

[Arrowwind]

Well Kev,

I think that the person who wrote this just is not that experienced with homeopathy. I agree with much of what he says, and equally disagree with much.

Homeoapthy is a very tricky thing. I have studied it extensively and have used it a lot and provided it for others.
You will never find scientific studies that show that homeopathy works that are of any significance one way or another. Homeopathy functions under a different paradigm and is within the realms of energetic medicine. Conventional constructs in scientific study cannot cope with this so they will always find homeopathy wrong or ineffective... its kind of like saying that becasue you cannot measure god with a ruler that god does not exist.

So be it for them.

Homeopathy does frequently work when skillfully applied, and that word skillfully is the key. There is great lack of those sufficiently skilled in the art/science so results often are not good.

If you go to a highly skilled homeopath you can get amazing results and I have many stories to tell through my personal experience as well as those stories that of homeoapths who have confided in me different accounts of their work.

Always I choose homeopathy first for all disease... but even for me this is a difficult thing. I am not a great homeopath. Sometimes it takes a long time to find the right remedy as my skill is not honed. I have taken my children and others to homeopaths who are skilled and have had amazing results.

The down side with homeopathy these days as I see it is the cost to go to one of these great prescribers. I have paid quite a bit, but what I got was priceless in return. There is also a rather large learning curve to be a good patient who understands the process, is compliant with care and is a good reporter of his disease process so that the doctor can correctly select a remedy.

When my children were plagued by infection it was not a drug, it was not MMS that cured them but homeopathy, and in short order. It also cured some disturbing behavioral issues one of them was having. I don't know what I would have done without homeopathy as they grew up. I just can't imagine trying to pump that god awlful tasting mms into them at the ages of 6 or 7. Always with children I seek remedies that cause no difficulty going down.. and of course homeopathy is perfect... but so is vitamin C. Vitamin C alone when correctly applied can cure many things that people have only found mms to cure. They did not know the correct application of vitamin C.

I can say with confidence that I did cure my son's scoliosis of the thorasic spine with homeopathy. It was pretty scary for me to go through as I was a student at the time and I got myself way over my head causing significant healing reactions in his small body. I ended up having to consult with homoepaths in India to resolve the situation as my teachers could not see the way out of it... but in the end he was delightfully cured, and now still, as an adult he walks with a straight spine. The treatment also alleviated most of his allergy issues. To make this case even more intreging I have a lot of reason to suspect that his scoliosis was fully a genetic inherited disorder.

MMS is a great boon to humanity. It can cure many microbial diseases and can detox heavy metals... but so does homeopathy. Homeopathy can be very good at heavy metal detox. But MMS is so easy and accessible regardless of some of the difficulties some have in getting it... its only $20 and no physician fee required. It is the answer for the masses of the world who have not resource nor inclination or education to seek out homeopathy or other alternative modalities. I believe it to be safe and reliable for many things but It will not cure everything. It does not hold the potential that homeopathy does. It could not ever cure scoliosis and many other debilitating conditions.

One of the delightful findings from the use of MMS is that it confirms that many many disease are microbial in origin, or from metal toxicity. You know the cause by the cure. We must get past the delusional thinking that all these new diseases upon us are auto-immune diseases.

Always I say, if you can afford it, if you have access, find a skilled homeopath, for the correct remedy can not only cure the disease you are seeking relief from it will energetically fortify your whole vibrational field. It can profoundly change you in ways you cannot predict, and for the better. It can help to prevent a life time of illness because it can remove the predisposition to illness on an energetic level... and I have seen it first hand alter what is believed to be genetic disorders.

thanks for asking me this question. I love to promote homeopathy as well as MMS.

[Eligos]

Well, as suspected, the sugar pills are a fraud of course.

Jim Humble NEWSLETTER

Excommunication

I have to give you some negative news though I really don't want to. I dislike negative news, but I feel that I must keep the Church going forward in a smooth manner. There is one Minister of the Church who decided that she did not need to play by our rules. She decided that the rules didn't apply to her, and she treated a number of friendly Genesis 2 Church members with arrogance, curtness, and in a totally discourteous manner. They were just people who wanted to buy things from her or get her to buy MMS chemicals for them for which they were willing to pay for plus her profit.

She approached me with the idea of using homeopathic sugar pills to replace MMS in the various protocols such as protocol 1000, 2000. Later she was even saying she could purify water with sugar pills and selling that idea as well. I try to stay open to most anything that has a chance of working and I couldn't see any harm in trying since she was totally convinced that the sugar pills that she called, “energy pills”, would work. So I said, "Okay, if you will put on the pill bottles and on your site that the pills can be used but they are experimental until they are proven out. It will be okay by me to do it that. WELL, SHE REFUSED TO PUT “EXPERIMENTAL” ANYWHERE, BUT SHE DID COLLECT CONSIDERABLE MONEY SELLING THE SUGAR PILLS. We tried the sugar pills (energy pills) here in the compound with an excess of 12 people and none of them experienced any relief. She continued, even though I asked several times for her to put experimental on the pill bottles and on her website, but she never did.

She explained the working of MMS on her site, but her explanations were not correct and did not fit modern chemistry or the data in my books and sites. I explained what was wrong with her explanations and then I even suggested what she could say so she wouldn’t have to work hard at it; but she just ignored me.

Do you see the problem? The Church doesn't sell MMS in order to stay out of trouble with the governments. We give it away and ask for donations. The state can't stop her from selling sugar pills; but the pills often don't work, which has already been proven, and she is stating that they are better than MMS because they don't taste bad. The Church simply cannot have pills or other medicine that works only part of the time being sold as “better than MMS”. That isn't what we are all about. Our Churches do not do that. If she continues to sell the sugar pills, it will give our church the reputation of promoting something that often does not work. We must not have that reputation.

I have to say this and I must admit it that I was extremely wrong in allowing her to use the pills in the church in the first place. I was thinking that putting the word “experimental” on them and on the website would probably cause only a few people who wanted to try such a pill to try it. I had no idea she was going to sell the pills. I thought she would handle it the way we do with MMS by healing people for free. But I was wrong to allow the experimental homeopathic remedy to be used at all. I apologize and it won't happen again. It’s just that sugar pills can’t be harmful as the amount of sugar wasn’t any more that the amount of salt you would put on your salad, and who knows, they might have worked. But they didn’t work. There will be no more experimental anything being promoted. All such things will be thoroughly tested before they are used.

In addition to selling pills that don’t work, this lady has taught seminars in England charging 1000 Euros per person. The agreement was that the Church was supposed to receive $275 dollars for each student in return for furnishing Ann with sets of 8 DVDs for each student. The students would then be given this 8 DVD set at the seminar. She never paid the money for over 8 students so now we must furnish each student with the DVD set to keep the church honest, as we state that everyone gets a DVD set with the seminar, plus Certificates of Minister of Health, a plastic Church ID card, and a Certificate of Authorization to open a church. That is all at our cost as part of the $275 that the Church did not receive. In this case Ann gets all the money; so instead of the Church benefiting from her seminar, it costs us money and time. If we didn't honor Ann’s students, then when a Minister anywhere in the world put on a seminar, people would wonder if they were really going to get the things promised. We will always do our best to see that the church always delivers what we promise.

This lady has stated that she is Jim Humble's official representative in England when I have never authorized her to say that. I hope you can see that I might eventually authorize many people in England to be official representatives, but never just one person. That is because one person cannot handle millions of people. That is why we have Ministers and Chapters and Missions; because we can’t handle billions of people alone.

In addition, this lady communicated to a friend of mine that I traveled with her to find another place of operation; which was a lie. Somehow she was trying to get Dr. Ron Neer to help her get me moved away from this place here in the Dominican Republic. Ron, however, was smarter than that. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back. That's what you would call subversive. I have no thought of moving away from here. These are my friends and they work up to 18 hours most days, 7 days a week, to make this operation successful. That would be like cutting my nose off to spite my face, as the saying goes. I'd never do that. The Genesis II Church tries to be fair and offer as much freedom of action as possible, but she has simply gone beyond her limit and has alienated a number of our members. That's it!!

As I write this, one more testimony came today by email from some people who bought sugar pills (energy pills) from Ann that were being represented as equally powerful as MMS. The complaint was the site www.mmsonline.info doesn't offer liquid MMS anywhere. They were sold the sugar pills which didn't work. We are having someone send these people an MMS kit, which is a bottle of MMS and activator and instructions, to replace the sugar pills. We simply cannot have her selling those sugar pills as MMS or as replacing MMS. On top of that, those sugar pills cost more than MMS costs most places in the world!

Some of you have already guessed her name by now. For those of you who have not guessed, her name is Ann Schneider-Cullen. As Bishop of the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing, I hereby declare Ann Schneider-Cullen excommunicated from the Church and I revoke her Minister and Doctor’s certificates until such time as she rights all of these wrongs listed in the paragraphs above and writes a letter of apology to the entire church. Of course, there is no liability in communicating with Ann, as we do not tell our members what to do. Our members should consider taking extra care in evaluating any contact with Ann, as she might treat you in a similar manner.

Normally, as anyone straightens up we like to give them a second chance if it seems they are sincere, but never more than one second chance.

Sorry about this negative newsletter. The next NEWSLETTER will come soon, as I don’t want you to be left with something negative for more than as short time.

[Flash]

Well, as suspected, the sugar pills are a fraud of course.

Jim Humble NEWSLETTER

Excommunication

I have to give you some negative news though I really don't want to. I dislike negative news, but I feel that I must keep the Church going forward in a smooth manner. There is one Minister of the Church who decided that she did not need to play by our rules. She decided that the rules didn't apply to her, and she treated a number of friendly Genesis 2 Church members with arrogance, curtness, and in a totally discourteous manner. They were just people who wanted to buy things from her or get her to buy MMS chemicals for them for which they were willing to pay for plus her profit.

She approached me with the idea of using homeopathic sugar pills to replace MMS in the various protocols such as protocol 1000, 2000. Later she was even saying she could purify water with sugar pills and selling that idea as well. I try to stay open to most anything that has a chance of working and I couldn't see any harm in trying since she was totally convinced that the sugar pills that she called, “energy pills”, would work. So I said, "Okay, if you will put on the pill bottles and on your site that the pills can be used but they are experimental until they are proven out. It will be okay by me to do it that. WELL, SHE REFUSED TO PUT “EXPERIMENTAL” ANYWHERE, BUT SHE DID COLLECT CONSIDERABLE MONEY SELLING THE SUGAR PILLS. We tried the sugar pills (energy pills) here in the compound with an excess of 12 people and none of them experienced any relief. She continued, even though I asked several times for her to put experimental on the pill bottles and on her website, but she never did.

She explained the working of MMS on her site, but her explanations were not correct and did not fit modern chemistry or the data in my books and sites. I explained what was wrong with her explanations and then I even suggested what she could say so she wouldn’t have to work hard at it; but she just ignored me.

Do you see the problem? The Church doesn't sell MMS in order to stay out of trouble with the governments. We give it away and ask for donations. The state can't stop her from selling sugar pills; but the pills often don't work, which has already been proven, and she is stating that they are better than MMS because they don't taste bad. The Church simply cannot have pills or other medicine that works only part of the time being sold as “better than MMS”. That isn't what we are all about. Our Churches do not do that. If she continues to sell the sugar pills, it will give our church the reputation of promoting something that often does not work. We must not have that reputation.

I have to say this and I must admit it that I was extremely wrong in allowing her to use the pills in the church in the first place. I was thinking that putting the word “experimental” on them and on the website would probably cause only a few people who wanted to try such a pill to try it. I had no idea she was going to sell the pills. I thought she would handle it the way we do with MMS by healing people for free. But I was wrong to allow the experimental homeopathic remedy to be used at all. I apologize and it won't happen again. It’s just that sugar pills can’t be harmful as the amount of sugar wasn’t any more that the amount of salt you would put on your salad, and who knows, they might have worked. But they didn’t work. There will be no more experimental anything being promoted. All such things will be thoroughly tested before they are used.

In addition to selling pills that don’t work, this lady has taught seminars in England charging 1000 Euros per person. The agreement was that the Church was supposed to receive $275 dollars for each student in return for furnishing Ann with sets of 8 DVDs for each student. The students would then be given this 8 DVD set at the seminar. She never paid the money for over 8 students so now we must furnish each student with the DVD set to keep the church honest, as we state that everyone gets a DVD set with the seminar, plus Certificates of Minister of Health, a plastic Church ID card, and a Certificate of Authorization to open a church. That is all at our cost as part of the $275 that the Church did not receive. In this case Ann gets all the money; so instead of the Church benefiting from her seminar, it costs us money and time. If we didn't honor Ann’s students, then when a Minister anywhere in the world put on a seminar, people would wonder if they were really going to get the things promised. We will always do our best to see that the church always delivers what we promise.

This lady has stated that she is Jim Humble's official representative in England when I have never authorized her to say that. I hope you can see that I might eventually authorize many people in England to be official representatives, but never just one person. That is because one person cannot handle millions of people. That is why we have Ministers and Chapters and Missions; because we can’t handle billions of people alone.

In addition, this lady communicated to a friend of mine that I traveled with her to find another place of operation; which was a lie. Somehow she was trying to get Dr. Ron Neer to help her get me moved away from this place here in the Dominican Republic. Ron, however, was smarter than that. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back. That's what you would call subversive. I have no thought of moving away from here. These are my friends and they work up to 18 hours most days, 7 days a week, to make this operation successful. That would be like cutting my nose off to spite my face, as the saying goes. I'd never do that. The Genesis II Church tries to be fair and offer as much freedom of action as possible, but she has simply gone beyond her limit and has alienated a number of our members. That's it!!

As I write this, one more testimony came today by email from some people who bought sugar pills (energy pills) from Ann that were being represented as equally powerful as MMS. The complaint was the site www.mmsonline.info doesn't offer liquid MMS anywhere. They were sold the sugar pills which didn't work. We are having someone send these people an MMS kit, which is a bottle of MMS and activator and instructions, to replace the sugar pills. We simply cannot have her selling those sugar pills as MMS or as replacing MMS. On top of that, those sugar pills cost more than MMS costs most places in the world!

Some of you have already guessed her name by now. For those of you who have not guessed, her name is Ann Schneider-Cullen. As Bishop of the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing, I hereby declare Ann Schneider-Cullen excommunicated from the Church and I revoke her Minister and Doctor’s certificates until such time as she rights all of these wrongs listed in the paragraphs above and writes a letter of apology to the entire church. Of course, there is no liability in communicating with Ann, as we do not tell our members what to do. Our members should consider taking extra care in evaluating any contact with Ann, as she might treat you in a similar manner.

Normally, as anyone straightens up we like to give them a second chance if it seems they are sincere, but never more than one second chance.

Sorry about this negative newsletter. The next NEWSLETTER will come soon, as I don’t want you to be left with something negative for more than as short time.

You now know who you are dealing with. In my book it is called theft and misrepresentation. Manipulation and power games are usually always involved. This is clear enough. You may find ways to intervene correctly to staighten the situation, but be careful, you are withing manipulative behaviors, she may outsmart you. If you have an excellent credibility in your church, then pubishing it loudly may be the best predicament here.

[Arrowwind]

Yes, she is the most dispicable type of person. Her lies, her fraud, her theivery has hurt many.

So many people have gone to MMS with trust and faith gleaned from the stories and the providers though their acts of kindness and dilligence in providing MMS in the face of tyranny. People like her taint us all in the public mind.

As she has damaged the reputation of the church and MMS, so she has done equally for homeopathy.

There is no punishment great enough for this woman for all the ill she has created and perpetuated.... as not only mms, but homeopathy is in a struggle currently for its life in the United Kingdom, having been routinely a component of care in some hospitals, it has been under full attack by the allopaths in the last 5 years.

She should be banished to a cold and bitter north seas isle to live out her days in isolation, far from anyone she could possibly damage further.... unfortuantely such extremes would be necessary as people with her type of ego never stop. They have no shame, no guilt, no moral compass.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

MMS and Apricot Kernel information is being blocked by PTB .. this is great news .. this confirms how well it works ; ) Stay strong ! :)

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