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witchy1
26th May 2011, 12:31
Excerpts from the article:

"I was told that a former employee of the Smithsonian, who was dismissed for defending the view of diffusionism in the Americas (i.e. the heresy that other ancient civilisations may have visited the shores of North and South America during the many millenia before Columbus), alleged that the Smithsonian at one time had actually taken a barge full of unusual artefacts out into the Atlantic and dumped them in the ocean.

Though the idea of the Smithsonian' covering up a valuable archaeological find is difficult to accept for some, there is, sadly, a great deal of evidence to suggest that the Smithsonian Institution has knowingly covered up and 'lost' important archaeological relics.

Here are some examples of "lost" things

In 1944 an accidental discovery of an even more controversial nature was made by Waldemar Julsrud at Acambaro, Mexico. Acambaro is in the state of Guanajuato, 175 miles northwest of Mexico City. The strange archaeological site there yielded over 33,500 objects of ceramic;stone, including jade; and knives of obsidian (sharper than steel and still used today in heart surgery). Jalsrud, a prominent local German merchant, also found statues ranging from less than an inch to six feet in length depicting great reptiles, some of them in ACTIVE ASSOCIATION with humans - generally eating them, but in some bizarre statuettes an erotic association was indicated. To observers many of these creatures resembled dinosaurs
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Perhaps the most amazing suppression of all is the excavation of an Egyptian tomb by the Smithsonian itself in Arizona. A lengthy front page story of the PHOENIX GAZETTE on 5 April 1909 (follows this article), gave a highly detailed report of the discovery and excavation of a rock-cut vault by an expedition led by a Professor S.A. Jordan of the Smithsonian. The Smithsonian, however, claims to have absolutely no knowledge of the discovery or its discoverers.

While it cannot be discounted that the entire story is an elaborate newspaper hoax, the fact that it was on the front page, named the prestigious Smithsonian Institution, and gave a highly detailed story that went on for several pages, lends a great deal to its credibility.

They deny any knowledge of it
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......The Alaskan mound was in fact a graveyard of gigantic human remains, consisting of crania and long leg bones.

The crania measured from 22 to 24 inches from base to crown. Since an adult skull normally measures about eight inches from back to front, such a large crania would imply an immense size for a normally proportioned human. Furthermore, every skull was said to have been neatly trepanned (a process of cutting a hole in the upper portion of the skull).............

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The following is an intriguing article entitled "Archeological Coverups", by David Hatcher Childress. Following that is a newspaper article from a 1909 newspaper indicating a bizarre suppressed find in the Grand Canyon area.

It indicates either a hoax published at the time OR that the Smithsonian and/or the government is covering up details of past archeological discoveries that would rock current understanding of the past.

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Archeological Coverups? by David Hatcher Childress

The cover-up and alleged suppression of archaeological evidence began in late 1881 when John Wesley Powell, the geologist famous for exploring the Grand Canyon, appointed Cyrus Thomas as the director of the Eastern Mound Division of the Smithsonian Institution's Bureau of Ethnology.

The Smithsonian opted for the opposite school, known as Isolationism. Isolationism holds that most civilisations are isolated from each other and that there has been very little contact between them, especially those that are separated by bodies of water. In this intellectual war that started in the 1880s, it was held that even contact between the civilisations of the Ohio and Mississippi Valleys were rare, and certainly these civilisations did not have any contact with such advanced cultures as the Mayas, Toltecs, or Aztecs in Mexico and Central America. By Old World standards this is an extreme, and even ridiculous idea......

When the contents of many ancient mounds and pyramids of the Midwest were examined, it was shown that the history of the Mississippi River Valleys was that of an ancient and sophisticated culture that had been in contact with Europe and other areas...Not only that, the contents of many mounds revealed burials of huge men, sometimes seven or eight feet tall, in full armour with swords and sometimes huge treasures.

....For instance, when Spiro Mound in Oklahoma was excavated in the 1930's, a tall man in full armour was discovered along with a pot of thousands of pearls and other artefacts, the largest such treasure so far documented.

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from the front page of THE PHOENIX GAZETTE of April 5th, 1909

EXPLORATIONS IN GRAND CANYON
Mysteries of Immense Rich Cavern being brought to light
Jordan is enthused
Remarkable finds indicate ancient people migrated from Orient

The latest news of the progress of the explorations of what is now regarded by scientists as not only the oldest archeological discovery in the United States, but one of the most valuable in the world, which was mentioned some time ago in the Gazette, was brought to the city yesterday by G.E. Kinkaid, the explorer who found the great underground citadel of the Grand Canyon during a trip from Green River, Wyoming, down the Colorado, in a wooden boat, to Yuma, several months ago.

According to the story related to the Gazette by Mr. Kinkaid, the archaelogists of the Smithsonian Institute, which is financing the expeditions, have made discoveries which almost conclusively prove that the race which inhabited this mysterious cavern, hewn in solid rock by human hands, was of oriental origin, possibly from Egypt, tracing back to Ramses. If their theories are borne out by the translation of the tablets engraved with heiroglyphics, the mystery of the prehistoric peoples of North America, their ancient arts, who they were and whence they came, will be solved. Egypt and the Nile,and Arizona and the Colorado will be linked by a historical chain running back to ages which staggers the wildest fancy of the fictionist.

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The STONEWATCH NEWSLETTER of the Gungywamp Society in Connecticut, which researches megalithic sites in New England, had a curious story in their Winter 1992 issue about stone coffins discovered in 1892 in Alabama which were sent to the Smithsonian Institution and then 'lost'.

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......He asks, "...is it that these people cannot face rewriting all the textbooks?"

Addit: I have cut and pasted bits and pieces, but there is far more in the article.
I have not had the chance to follow up on any of this information as yet. Perhaps others already know about some of these sites?????

More here: http://www.keelynet.com/unclass/canyon.txt

Lord Sidious
27th May 2011, 04:02
This rings true, it fits the mindset of most of the professions, medicine, law, science, the lot.
Our way or the highway.
Cretins.

dukes4monny
27th May 2011, 04:33
An interesting thread, thank you.

You might also enjoy reading the free e-book by Maxwell Igan titled: Earths Forbidden Secrets
(http://thecrowhouse.com/Documents/Earths%20Forbidden%20Secrets%20Part%20One.pdf)

Max Igan's website: http://thecrowhouse.com/home.html

Arpheus
27th May 2011, 05:16
Knowing the history of how the smithsonian came to be,this is really sad news indeed,if the guy who's personal fortune is still being used to this day to keep running the smithsonian and all its ramifications was still alive he would be one pissed off person,thats for sure.I forgot his name now.

witchy1
27th May 2011, 10:12
Bump for this topic:bump:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15203-Skull-in-Underwater-Cave-May-Be-Earliest-Trace-of-First-Americans&p=229775#post229775

Thanks Duke - I have on kindle ready to read..........my list is getting longer and longer

dukes4monny
27th May 2011, 10:22
Bump for this topic:bump:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15203-Skull-in-Underwater-Cave-May-Be-Earliest-Trace-of-First-Americans&p=229775#post229775

Thanks Duke - I have on kindle ready to read..........my list is getting longer and longer

My pleasure. I'm usually flicking between about three books at any one time.........it's not easy.

DNA
27th May 2011, 13:24
I'm an old believer of what your talking about here. The Giants that have been unearthed as well as catacombs like those uncovered in the Grand Canyon. This is a good thread Witchy1,,,it would be a little bit bitter if you had some more links in relation to the material you are providing.
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I don't think the Smithsonian carries out such nefarious deeds due to the reason given by David Hatcher Childress.
I think it's more along the lines of Charles Fort as stated in his 1919 book called "THE BOOK OF THE DAMNED" (http://www.archive.org/details/bookdamnedbycha00fortgoog)
In this work,,,,Fort talks about all the clues for a conspiracy in connection to UFO's and high strangeness in his time at the turn of the twentieth century. Charles Fort talks about there being AGENTS that are high in politics, media and ACADAMIA, for how else could there be no mention of the flying saucers seen so often in this time.
And,,,in relation to this,,,,the archeology,,,that would show many highly accomplished ANCIENT earth societies that probably had OFFWORLD contact. Fort names his book,,,the damned,,,,because his only logical reason for why this is all taking place is that the cultures that own the UFO ships,,,must have AGENTS within OUR system, controlling our destinies in certain areas,,,,thus making us,,,the damned,,,or controlled in this respect.
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A shout out to Bill and Kerry for interviewing Jordan Maxwell and his mentioning an interaction with such off world agents who instructed him to read this Charles Fort book, stating that what Fort says, is indeed true.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jJKue2Ff6o

Artemesia
27th May 2011, 15:20
Smithsonian has some very convoluted and 'dark agenda based' energy indeed.

witchy1
27th May 2011, 23:57
it would be a little bit bitter if you had some more links in relation to the material you are providing. Yes I agree DNA. Normally I would, however I am a bit time deficient atm so was hoping others might have some knowledge to share

irmensul13
15th June 2011, 19:28
This is a great thread,it really upsets me that they are stealing & suppressing our history..I want to be able to present evidence of this to those who are skeptical about it..at school,history lessons were a joke imo

Swanette
15th June 2011, 20:49
My father bought me a book many years ago call "Forbidden Archeology" by Michael Cremo. Check out his web site http://www.forbiddenarcheology.com/

Rainbowbrite
18th June 2011, 17:59
My father bought me a book many years ago call "Forbidden Archeology" by Michael Cremo. Check out his web site http://www.forbiddenarcheology.com/

I have this book too - it's a great read, i hadn't seen his website before, thanks for this!

'Ooparts' have always fascinated me, since being very young. This interest resulted in a pivotal moment that resulted in my 'wake up' call :) It's great to see this info on here - thanks for the thread Witchy1!

Blessings - Rain

Rocky_Shorz
23rd June 2011, 18:07
for those who are curious about the hidden Secrets of the Grand Canyon, I spotted something interesting looking at a 3.3 Quake today...

the pin on the map is quake location.

just below it is what looks like a long arm with a pointed finger pointing right at that location...

3.3 Quake Map (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=36.9478+-112.1523(M3.3+-+ARIZONA+-+2011+June+23++03:14:02+UTC)&hl=e&ll=36.905431,-112.109299&spn=0.269588,0.43602&t=h&z=11)

just below that about an equal distance from the starting point, is the "restricted" military Zone

just a coincidence?

witchy1
27th January 2013, 08:23
Again this subject has come to my attention. More hidden stuff at the Smithsonian

TedX has pulled a video by Jim Vieiras having asked him to present just last month. The presentation is about the mound builder tall people etc and he does take a swipe at the Smithsonian. This is the pathetic reason and they are calling copyright. http://tedxshelburnefalls.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/jim-vieiras-talk-removed-from-internet/

"Last Month, stonemason and researcher Jim Vieira spoke at a TedX lecture event in Shelbourne Falls, Massachusetts regarding enigamatic megalithic looking stone structures in New England, and half of his talk discussed the historical and archaeological records of giant skeletons 7 to 11 ft tall with anatomic anomalies recorded in their own Smithsonian ethnology reports, American Antiquarian, and other science journals, and NY Times and other newspaper headlines from the late 1800's to early 1900's. Additionally he talked about his own investigation of two giant skeletons which were on display in a museum in Deerfield, MA-- one over 8 ft according to the catalog of relics and inventory at the museum in 1883, but were reburied in recent years to comply with NAGPRA laws. Vieira holds nothing back, and bashes the Smithsonian and reveals the corruption and cover-ups they are involved in..."

Video purgede twice from yt - this one one last long either. Its very good. If someone could save it for us - I dont have yt account

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Thread over at glp as well on this. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2082722/pg1

Here is an excellent article dealing with written history by the first settlers and others about the mound builders and skeletons.

http://www.xpeditionsmagazine.com/magazine/articles/giants/holocaust.html

Not specifically about the Smithsonian, but lots of articles about the tall people, with the identifying double row of teeth
http://www.6000years.org/giant_reports.html

DNA
27th January 2013, 17:42
Here is a little tid bit worth mentioning. Ignatius Donnelly wrote of his private tour of hidden Smithsonian artifacts in his book about Atlantis.

per Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatius_L._Donnelly)



Ignatius Loyola Donnelly (November 3, 1831 – January 1, 1901) was a U.S. Congressman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Congressman), populist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism) writer and amateur scientist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fringe_science), known primarily now for his theories concerning Atlantis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis), Catastrophism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catastrophism) (especially the idea of an ancient impact event (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_event) affecting ancient civilizations), and Shakespearean authorship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespearean_authorship), all of which modern historians consider to be pseudoscience (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience) and pseudohistory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudohistory). Brother to Eleanor C. Donnelly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_C._Donnelly), Donnelly's work had important influence on the writings of late 19th and early 20th century figures such as Helena Blavatsky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Blavatsky), Rudolf Steiner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Steiner), and James Churchward (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Churchward) and has more recently influenced writer Graham Hancock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Hancock). Donnelly's concept of Atlantis as an antediluvian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antediluvian) civilization became the inspiration for the 1969 pop song hit Atlantis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis_(song)) by Donovan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donovan) and the 2009 film 2012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_(film)) by Roland Emmerich (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Emmerich).


These artifacts included skulls of giants and the tools of giants such as a giant axe that would have taken two people to even lift off of the ground.

Free PDF of Atlantis the antidilluvian world (http://www.fullbooks.com/The-Antediluvian-World1.html)

eni-al
28th January 2013, 03:00
Maybe a warehouse like at the end of raiders of the lost ark could exist.
Read a few stories of finds of lost civilisations and coverups, one involving the smithsonian, might have been the kincaid one though. Ill post a few links of info if they are different. Read up on the Panamint mountain civilisation/treasure, not so much coverup, but its interesting. And that of the hypogeum of Hal Saflieni in Malta, all ties up to underground races, whether there is truth in that regard, its something that will leave you with some thoughts.

Some mueseums have kept things locked away, Smithsonian would be no exception today.

sheme
30th January 2013, 19:12
I feel this is relevant to this topic has anyone figured that the Mali burning of ancient manuscripts is the real reason for the mercenaries disguised as Tuareg destroy our history and heritage in Timbuktu- I think these artefacts and manuscripts have been paid for so they escape the coming earth change, or they are misleading and corrupt and have to be destroyed- what ever, it is all meant to be. I think the majority of ancient artefacts are safe underground, held by whom I do not know- but like the theft of gold from the third building in 9/11 they have a value immeasurable when they have been removed.