Eat flesh if you kill them by your hand?

[Tangri]

Is it new policy or just a new one for malevolent creatures?
Mr. Zuckerberg announced recently.

[cellardoor]

Fair enough this could bring you closer to nature,

or

It could be a cover for animal sacrifice Lol

[Limor Wolf]

Care to say more? and any links to Mr.zuckerberg statement will be appreciated (though as a vegetarian,I might just swallow my tongue for asking this;)

[mondaze]

working 10 hours a day precludes hunting so does the ability to kill your own food enable you to be a flesh eater? i have killed and eaten the flesh and have also been a vegetarian... i have an ambigious relationship with meat...

[Tangri]

working 10 hours a day precludes hunting so does the ability to kill your own food enable you to be a flesh eater? i have killed and eaten the flesh and have also been a vegetarian... i have an ambigious relationship with meat...

If you are hunter there is no problem. But ;roles(acting places) prune to change sometimes. My problem start from there. If some creature try to use this one to eat humans it won't be comfortable for me.

[Tangri]

Care to say more? and any links to Mr.zuckerberg statement will be appreciated (though as a vegetarian,I might just swallow my tongue for asking this;)

Here some link
http://www.news.com.au/technology/the-mark-zuckerberg-diet-only-eat-what-you-kill-with-your-own-bare-hands/story-e6frfro0-1226063975449

My concern is; if there is any intent to build new public opinion,/ view which can be turn to a common sense :cool:
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[DeDukshyn]

I like meat. I hate eating animals that had no choice in the matter and live in fear and suffering. I don't eat much meat anymore for that reason.

The native americans had it right (for eating meat) -- before a hunt a prayer was given, asking the earth for provisions. It was understood that any animal willing to offer itself was the one they crossed paths with and were able to kill. After the kill, thanks was given and forgiveness asked. No part of the animal was wasted, and everyone appreciated the animal as its gift to them, with the blessing of the Earth. A far cry from current meat eating practices.

My father was a hunter, he told me how important it was not to frighten or chase a wounded animal - one shot kill was a MUST and if not possible - never let the prey see you or know it is being hunted. He told me fear ruins the meat -- Inelia and Bill will attest to this and have explained it spiritually on the Inelia thread. I will also say that you appreciate any animal that you had to kill and process yourself WAAAY differently than the thing you buy at the store and go home and cook.

All that said, eating meat should really be out of necessity - certainly not habit, or desire. My two cents.

[161803398]

Are slaughterhouses blood sacrifice? It is evil to be terrifying animals before you kill them. If you care about it only from the perspective of food; its crazy to be eating meat filled with adrenaline; cortisol and god knows what else (aside from all the antibiotics and gm corn and grain). I won't eat meat anymore partly because I can't stand the thought of anything dying like that; and partly because I won't eat what slaughterhouses have produced. I wont fund their holocaust. I don't know whether the purpose of it is to make consumers sick; or to turn workers into psychopaths; or both. Nice to have a reserve of compassionless killers trained in the food industry.

[nearing]

I used to have to chase down the chicken and hold it while my grandpa chopped off it's head. I don't think it gets any closer to real than then.

I wouldn't eat those chickens.

[Lord Sidious]

Are slaughterhouses blood sacrifice? It is evil to be terrifying animals before you kill them. If you care about it only from the perspective of food; its crazy to be eating meat filled with adrenaline; cortisol and god knows what else (aside from all the antibiotics and gm corn and grain). I won't eat meat anymore partly because I can't stand the thought of anything dying like that; and partly because I won't eat what slaughterhouses have produced. I wont fund their holocaust. I don't know whether the purpose of it is to make consumers sick; or to turn workers into psychopaths; or both. Nice to have a reserve of compassionless killers trained in the food industry.

I love meat, but my soul despairs at the suffering the animals go through for nothing, other than to be consumed.
I know that this is a ''natural'' thing, but the suffering of any living thing can and does have many affects and none of them beneficial to the greater good.
I am working on going vegetarian and not partaking of the slaughter and suffering anymore.
I was saying to a friend in skype the other day, I can feel some of my limitations falling away, just like the cables keeping gulliver down.
The meat topic I feel is a huge one that I have to deal with sooner rather than later.

[161803398]

The problem is its not even natural anymore. FC5vQpBRjCk


Check Part 3
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[nearing]

Best to not eat anything if you don't personally know the farm and farmers it came from. Honestly, it's that bad.

[Carmody]

I like meat. I hate eating animals that had no choice in the matter and live in fear and suffering. I don't eat much meat anymore for that reason.

The native americans had it right (for eating meat) -- before a hunt a prayer was given, asking the earth for provisions. It was understood that any animal willing to offer itself was the one they crossed paths with and were able to kill. After the kill, thanks was given and forgiveness asked. No part of the animal was wasted, and everyone appreciated the animal as its gift to them, with the blessing of the Earth. A far cry from current meat eating practices.

My father was a hunter, he told me how important it was not to frighten or chase a wounded animal - one shot kill was a MUST and if not possible - never let the prey see you or know it is being hunted. He told me fear ruins the meat -- Inelia and Bill will attest to this and have explained it spiritually on the Inelia thread. I will also say that you appreciate any animal that you had to kill and process yourself WAAAY differently than the thing you buy at the store and go home and cook.

All that said, eating meat should really be out of necessity - certainly not habit, or desire. My two cents.

Yes. I've been there and done that myself.

Processed meat?. Most people have no idea what they are doing in that regard.

I have multiple slaughter house stories that I will not bring the forum 'down' with... by retelling.

I'll say that when I walk through the meat section at the supermarket, it bothers me. I don't see food. I see horror and pain.

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Are slaughterhouses blood sacrifice? It is evil to be terrifying animals before you kill them. If you care about it only from the perspective of food; its crazy to be eating meat filled with adrenaline; cortisol and god knows what else (aside from all the antibiotics and gm corn and grain). I won't eat meat anymore partly because I can't stand the thought of anything dying like that; and partly because I won't eat what slaughterhouses have produced. I wont fund their holocaust. I don't know whether the purpose of it is to make consumers sick; or to turn workers into psychopaths; or both. Nice to have a reserve of compassionless killers trained in the food industry.

I love meat, but my soul despairs at the suffering the animals go through for nothing, other than to be consumed.
I know that this is a ''natural'' thing, but the suffering of any living thing can and does have many affects and none of them beneficial to the greater good.
I am working on going vegetarian and not partaking of the slaughter and suffering anymore.
I was saying to a friend in skype the other day, I can feel some of my limitations falling away, just like the cables keeping gulliver down.
The meat topic I feel is a huge one that I have to deal with sooner rather than later.

The biggest challenge, Sid, will to be able to fill your diet out with interesting and simple meals that become 'automatic' in the same way that your current meat inclusive diet is.

One can start by going away from all red meats, then from all chicken... and just have fish.... then play with eliminating the fish. I find that to be the best way to ease into it.

[Lord Sidious]

Thanks for the advice Carmody.
I am far more strong willed than you might realise, but then again, reading some of my threads, you may realise that.
If I want to drop meat, I can do it overnight.
I did it with alcohol.
I just want to make sure I know what I am doing before I make the jump.
I don't want to have to fix a vitamin/mineral deficiency later.

[Carmody]

Thanks for the advice Carmody.
I am far more strong willed than you might realise, but then again, reading some of my threads, you may realise that.
If I want to drop meat, I can do it overnight.
I did it with alcohol.
I just want to make sure I know what I am doing before I make the jump.
I don't want to have to fix a vitamin/mineral deficiency later.

Oh, that's sorta what I'm talking about. The biggest problem is getting the meals together- it's unfamiliar territory. That is the problem that tends to arise. You'll find yourself running into Asian food stores more often due to this.

[161803398]

I think the whole protein thing might be bogus. Quinoa, beans, and nuts contain protein. I think most vegetables also contain protein. You can get B-12 fortified soy milk or cereal. 5VWi6dXCT7I&feature


There's something else too. Its vibration or energy in food. I think that food that is canned, irradiated, packaged, genetically modified, frozen or irradiated is pretty well useless as far as vibration is concerned. I don't know about "food" that's been tortured but I would guess the vibration isn't good.

http://www.lexiyoga.com/vibration-of-food

[YoungSoul]

Recently I have started eating more and more salads with a big portion of beans, chick peas and lettuce.
People tell me that they think that sounds boring and not so attractive, then I always tell them that its the dressing that I love most.

[nearing]

The thing is, one shouldn't be eating any fish now. It's ALL contaminated.

So dairy, eggs and legumes will need to be your main proteins. And your fat should be coconut oil and palm oil (both very good sources of saturated fat that are GOOD FOR YOU!)

Luckily, cheeses are varied and yummy! And Whey Protein shakes are pretty scrumptious if done right. :~)

Gotta love your veggies.

[Lord Sidious]

The thing is, one shouldn't be eating any fish now. It's ALL contaminated.

So dairy, eggs and legumes will need to be your main proteins. And your fat should be coconut oil and palm oil (both very good sources of saturated fat that are GOOD FOR YOU!)

Luckily, cheeses are varied and yummy! And Whey Protein shakes are pretty scrumptious if done right. :~)

Gotta love your veggies.

When I was a kid, my mother never had any trouble with getting me to eat my veggies.
I loved em then and I still do.
Never liked lollies/candy much though.

[MargueriteBee]

I'm to the point where eatting meat just seems disgusting.

[nearing]

The thing is, one shouldn't be eating any fish now. It's ALL contaminated.

So dairy, eggs and legumes will need to be your main proteins. And your fat should be coconut oil and palm oil (both very good sources of saturated fat that are GOOD FOR YOU!)

Luckily, cheeses are varied and yummy! And Whey Protein shakes are pretty scrumptious if done right. :~)

Gotta love your veggies.

When I was a kid, my mother never had any trouble with getting me to eat my veggies.
I loved em then and I still do.
Never liked lollies/candy much though.

You are more than half the way there then!

I remember eating peas as a kid thinking they were candy! I feel that way about pickled beets too. Yum.

Now I am hungry.

[DNA]

Are slaughterhouses blood sacrifice? It is evil to be terrifying animals before you kill them. If you care about it only from the perspective of food; its crazy to be eating meat filled with adrenaline; cortisol and god knows what else (aside from all the antibiotics and gm corn and grain). I won't eat meat anymore partly because I can't stand the thought of anything dying like that; and partly because I won't eat what slaughterhouses have produced. I wont fund their holocaust. I don't know whether the purpose of it is to make consumers sick; or to turn workers into psychopaths; or both. Nice to have a reserve of compassionless killers trained in the food industry.

I love meat, but my soul despairs at the suffering the animals go through for nothing, other than to be consumed.
I know that this is a ''natural'' thing, but the suffering of any living thing can and does have many affects and none of them beneficial to the greater good.
I am working on going vegetarian and not partaking of the slaughter and suffering anymore.
I was saying to a friend in skype the other day, I can feel some of my limitations falling away, just like the cables keeping gulliver down.
The meat topic I feel is a huge one that I have to deal with sooner rather than later.

I've stopped eating meat too,,,with the exception of condensed organic poultry stock I use in soups.
May I make a suggestion.
With the GMO craze going on (I don't do GMO) the easiest way to avoid GMO foods is to avoid the most common food staples.
Avoid Corn,Wheat,Rice and Soybeans.
Instead do Barley,Quinua,Amaranth,Spelt Grain, lintels and look for organic beans.
This in conjuction with organic vegtables can be eaten at a fairly economically price if one can cook.
.
.
On a personal note, I have nothing against eating meat the way Zuckerberg describes.
But organically fed, field raised meat is extremelly expensive.
Rather than contribute to MURDER INC, I think I would rather eat mostly vegetarian. :)