Healers

[humanalien]

Just a quick question. Many people here claim to be
able to do spiritual healing's but does anyone here
do physical healing's?

[astrid]

Whats up?
Many physical issues have an energetic basis anyways.
I don't differentiate, healing is healing.

The energy gets sent where ever its needed.

It's often a matter of getting to the root course.

Often these days its environmental too,
Geopathic stress is a big issue, that not many people know about, or address.

[Rainbowbrite]

I do too - and as Astrid says, i don't differentiate either. I work with the whole person: mind, body and spirit. And, again, as Astrid says - what's up?

Blessings - Rain

[9eagle9]

Spiritual healing is a misnomer. The spirit isn't damaged.

A psychic healer facilitates in the psyche, because the damaged emotional expression will begin to reflect in the physical body. So as one works with the physical body to abate the immediate symptoms, emotional and mind work needs to be addressed to for a wholeness of cure.

For my part yes I do both, but I make agreement with the person I'm working with. In order to facilitate a physical healing they must be willing to address what is going on in the mental and emotional bodies that is causing it. When that happens...even terminal illnesses can be cured. IF (big if) the person is willing. Otherwise the physical symptoms just come back after a while.

I've observed people literally just drop dead for no apparent reason because they didn't want to address their physical and emotional wounds even though they thought they did. Its a safe place for them to hide. I mean LITERALLY just drop dead between one sentence and the next because the wound they'd hidden in for so long was about to be taken away.

[TraineeHuman]

As I understand it, the way a healer, or indeed a psychotherapist, works is as follows. They facilitate your psyche and your being to heal itself. You have enormous power over your life and your body. Otherwise you wouldn't have free will. So, even the very best healers don't always get successful results at a physical level. Sometimes this happens because the patient unconsciously doesn't really want to be healed at all. Some people unconsciously want to die -- it's a "respectable" type of suicide. I've totally healed some individuals who were terminal patients. I've also come across terminal patients with whom I've had to pour lots of healing energy in to "melt" a kind of cocoon of coldness that they'd built around their body to stop all healing energy from coming in. Then when that wall was out of the way, these patients wouldn't accept the healing energy either, by not being receptive to it at all in some other way. Even though any "normal" person is always receptive to it. Also, every physical healing is 99% a psychological healing, because your intelligence is the "God" of your body.

[9eagle9]

Yes . Healers act as facilitators . One couldn't impose healing on someone who doesn't want it. Consciously they may want it but some you have to work on a lot of stuff in the psyche. Conversely some scoff at the notion consciously but unconsciously are very willing. It seems the entire Matrix paradigm is in the human psyche. You pull out one thread of lies and deceptions and you reveal a thousand more.

Regardless the recipient does the actual work. Spontaneous healing may be do to the trust the recipient has for the healer, but the recipient is still doing the work. a true expression of 'faith' healing. Or the healers own energy level may trigger a spontaneous healing but its all done by the recipient. Healer FAIL is when the recipient wants something 'done' to them without any self involvement at all.

But self sabotage is huge. People who are healers find themselves in state of bewilderment all the time till they understand certain aspects of the human condition. People want to be healed but really don't so you have to dig in deep to find the saboteur in there. I know a woman who had stage four cancer. Because of her issues it would have been counterproductive to work with me directly so I had a student work with her. . The only direction I gave was to tell the woman to cease eating any form of glucose for a month. The student reported back to me that the woman who previously didn't eat sugar at all, was suddenly stuffing as much sweets as she could hold down her mouth. The subconscious contract has kicked in and overruled the conscious desire to feel better. That's when you have to really trench in and find out what sort of contracts, agreements and core values are going on in the psyche.

Contract breaking is much easier, because you don't need the consent of the recipient, its not theirs to begin with but have been imposed in some fashion. Of course they may choose to re-create the contract and that's basically when I say 'Welp your choosing death over life so I have to respect your choices and boundaries." Their choice. What can you do?

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I like that ..in a manner of speaking....respectable type of suicide.

[Davidallany]

Inelia would be a very good example of a healer. Her words carry power and depth, just by seeing her video one is healed. Be aware of impostors, who pretend to know about healing through reading lots of books without the spiritual background. They are cheap by the dozen.

[9eagle9]

Be ware of healers that tell you what you want to hear instead of what you need to know.

[edina]

humanalien, are you asking this simply out of curiosity? Do you or someone you know want healing?

Physical/solid matter is simply crystalized energy. By the time an experience has solidified into physical expression, the underlying pattern has become quite crystalised/rigid. This is why healers can only facilitate healing, the underlying patterns that lead to dis-ease must be met within the person and changed, softened, translated, reframed, ect..., whether the facilitator is a Reiki healer, or a stainless steel knife in the hands of an allopathic surgeon.

Let us know if you would like people to help you, or someone you know heal. (or become more whole)

[humanalien]

I've PMed edina for assistance to find out how a healing works.
I don't know if this is a solo or a group type of healing. I don't
understand how this works.

I'm am the one in need of healing, so i hope someone can
help me out.

Thanks for all the replies..

[MargueriteBee]

As a Reiki practioner I realize that some have a soul contract to take on an illness or handicap for various reasons. It is essential to get permission to facilitate healing due to free will. I would never do long distance healing without permission directly from the person.

[humanalien]

Reiki

I don't quite understand what you mean by asking permission first.
In my mind, isn't it obvious that since i am here asking for help
that you would have my permission already? Am i missing something
here?

[9eagle9]

Let us know how you fare, HA.

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I meant to add since you are in OH, I know some good folks down there if you are ever in need of a direct hands on healing.

[humanalien]

Thanks 9eagle9 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?2424-9eagle9)

[MargueriteBee]

Well I am speaking generally, yes I would ask you for permission to give you a treatment instead of just doing one without you knowing, that would be rude and taking away your free will. I would also need a picture, your first and last name and the town and state where you live.

You can email me at. Margueritebee@gmail.com

I would be happy to treat you twice a day for seven days at no charge.

[edina]

humanalien, each person does this in a way unique to them. I am PMing you on a more personal note, however, I think asking for healing from others as a group is also helpful.

Everyone, humanalien is asking for help in healing a physical issue.

Healers will ask for permission, or if this a choice you make from your own free will, as a courtesy and respect for your free will and personal sovereignty.

Anyone who feels inspired to offer help to humanalien, please feel welcome to do so.

[humanalien]

Thanks edina for asking help for me. If i understand this correctly,
i need to ask for my own help in order to give permission.

I am in need of a physical healing and i humbly ask any
healer that wishes to help me to please send your healing
energy in my direction. I give you my permission to do so.

If there is anything you need to know, please let me know.
I don't know if you do an over all body healing or you work
on the affected area..

Thank-you all

[edina]

HA, you did this beautifully, thanks!!!! :hug:

[humanalien]

Thank-you edina.

[conk]

Humanalien, I do not profess to be a healer, but I do send my loving, healing intentions to you.

These questions interest me more than any other aspect of my life. I have read scores of books and watched more DVDs than I had popcorn to eat with them. I understand in principle how healing can occur. My rudimentary understanding is that some form of intelligence provides our physical body with information through our energy bodies. That information flows through a system of 'meridians'. These pathways may have finally been photographed! I believe the photos were in a book The Genie In Your Genes (not sure). That information can be corrupted by our faulty thinking or subconscious mapping. I KNOW that my physical body can be healed. My conscious mind, my logic and reasoning offer no doubt.

My problem is how to overcome the negative programming in the sub-mind that fights the healing. So many programs, so many experts, so much of this and that. Where is the real answer?! I am fast becoming exhausted from 15 years of misery and pain that no doctor can define. I will not give up and promise to share with this community any answers I stumble upon.

Sorry to jack your thread Humanalien. Love and blessings to you and all.

[humanalien]

Thanks conk and no, you didn't jack my thread. I appreciate what
you just posted. It helps me understand this process just a little
bit more.

Peace and love to you my friend.....

[Rene]

Whats up?
Many physical issues have an energetic basis anyways.
I don't differentiate, healing is healing.

The energy gets sent where ever its needed.

It's often a matter of getting to the root course.

Often these days its environmental too,
Geopathic stress is a big issue, that not many people know about, or address.

What can one do to handle geopathic stress?
We can't escape our place where we live all the time, so there has to be a way that negative energies can't influence the body / mind.

Anyone any suggestions?

Thanks

[EileenCookies]

I don't do as much remote healing as I use to. People need to be dealing with their own karma these days.

A nice generality to follow is (for physical healing):
First, mediatate on the symptoms and look for answers within. If this isn't helpful, move on to:
2: Increase the level of energy in your food (by picking healthier choices).
3. If that doesn't help, try homeopathy.
4. If that doesn't help, try accupuncture.
(....and a whole host of alternative therapies, naturopathy, physcial therapy, chiropracters,
crainial sacral, reiki masters, massage and so on)
Your last choice is an M.D.
good luck

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[Ria]

Would there be an interest in setting up a permanent healing section. That we could put peoples names on a list to send healing to collectively?
with a small amount of detail. For example a friend has a swollen knee and can't work [trying everything to sort it out]
What do you think? It is something we could do collectively. I am shore all of us can think of at lest a dozen of people who could do with it.
keep it to the members to make the lists.
We can also send healing to mother earth, animals etc.
We could come up with a simple structure, to facilitate this.

[Rene]

Interesting ideas. Indeed there are dozen of healing methods, therapies, energies but isn't pure consciousness doing the work by itself?
From this perspective isn't the challenge to stay in contact with this field, where ever you are? I see I'm answering my own question of above now -)
Still the challenge remain to stay conscious, no matter what. Any thoughts about this? From example the screaming neighbour kid drives me out of awareness.

I like your idea Ria, specially the simple structure and collective nature. Aren't there any projects on this forum running like that?

[applejax]

i have been wearing crystals to remove negative energy whenever i go to work/school. i keep in touch w/my massage therapists friends/classmates and some are my close friends. one of them does remote healing, where this computer program just needs your name (only if you got a very unique name combination, otherwise if you have something similar to say: john smith, it will would be best to add more description) and it scans your energy field to find anything wrong going with your body. 9 times out of 10 it found something that only you and your doctor would know. the healing part gets better when you get a session from my friend (sorry i live in california), because he also does cranial sacral and vibrational (i know how to do this) healing and massage as well as vortex healing.

i also like eileencookies' suggestion; that would definitely help. and yes ria you have a very interesting idea as well :D