European revolution: take the street!

[Jendayi]

eh, oh, let´s go!!!

Europe to the streets!!!!

29th of may, 2011


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DskfLNJh_C4

[Lord Sidious]

I would much prefer that they just keep doing this day after day until the whole thing falls down.
One day and a sunday at that, means very little to the system.

[Newlyn]

Sidius, they ARE doing this day after day.

This is a big thing happening in europe, but media don't show it. Police in Barcelona was hitting and chasing people out of streets, the media as well, and then the whole thing was cencored.

http://www.worldwithoutwars.org/news/15-m-spain-nonviolence-now-streets

[Lord Sidious]

Sidius, they ARE doing this day after day.

This is a big thing happening in europe, but media don't show it. Police in Barcelona was hitting and chasing people out of streets, the media as well, and then the whole thing was cencored.

http://www.worldwithoutwars.org/news/15-m-spain-nonviolence-now-streets

In spain they may be, but we need this all over, day after day, until the whole rotten thing comes down.
But people think they have something to lose.

[mondaze]

the spanish are showing the cajones to us all... out in the open saying stop the NEW WORLD ORDER! Let's hope this is the beginning of the end...

[ExHaLaTiON]

Sidius, they ARE doing this day after day.

This is a big thing happening in europe, but media don't show it. Police in Barcelona was hitting and chasing people out of streets, the media as well, and then the whole thing was cencored.

http://www.worldwithoutwars.org/news/15-m-spain-nonviolence-now-streets

In spain they may be, but we need this all over, day after day, until the whole rotten thing comes down.
But people think they have something to lose.

Easier said then done, LS.

Complex this is......

[Lord Sidious]

Sidius, they ARE doing this day after day.

This is a big thing happening in europe, but media don't show it. Police in Barcelona was hitting and chasing people out of streets, the media as well, and then the whole thing was cencored.

http://www.worldwithoutwars.org/news/15-m-spain-nonviolence-now-streets

In spain they may be, but we need this all over, day after day, until the whole rotten thing comes down.
But people think they have something to lose.

Easier said then done, LS.

Complex this is......

It is only complex if you believe it is.
This is so simple to defeat it beggars belief, truly.

[The Mad spirtualist]

Don't feed the beast and it will starve!

[Lord Sidious]

Don't feed the beast and it will starve!

Here it is folks.
Wanna be free?
Here is your answer and it is a one liner.
I told you it was simple.

[The Mad spirtualist]

I think we should ALL just STOP. Just stop going to work, stop buying **** etc. Just hang out and do nothing. Maybe the Earth will stop rotating eh! We can call it Earth Stop day. The day the Earth stopped and changed direction. The ONLY way this battle can be won is through consciousness! raising the vibe so the lower vibrational parasites can no longer take the environment and must simply leave.

[ponda]

There's one thing missing from the equation for change.An answer.There's no viable alternative system on the table.If there was a viable alternative way of doing things then it would be promoted by everyone who is protesting and revolting but it isn't.Everyone wants change but no one knows what to change to.

Do we get rid of money and profit ? Do we share everything equally ? Do we bring in accountability and proper checks and balances etc ? There has to be a proper viable alternative system to change to before real change can take place imho.


cheers

[ExHaLaTiON]

There's one thing missing from the equation for change.An answer.There's no viable alternative system on the table.If there was a viable alternative way of doing things then it would be promoted by everyone who is protesting and revolting but it isn't.Everyone wants change but no one knows what to change to.

Do we get rid of money and profit ? Do we share everything equally ? Do we bring in accountability and proper checks and balances etc ? There has to be a proper viable alternative system to change to before real change can take place imho.


cheers

And on top of all that, I am sure that someone(s) is waiting in the wings to conquer us all over again once the old crumbles.
We can starve this beast but what other beast may lay hiding?

This is not a simple game, if it were we would not be here.

[ponda]

ExHaLaTION said:

And on top of all that, I am sure that someone(s) is waiting in the wings to conquer us all over again once the old crumbles.
We can starve this beast but what other beast may lay hiding?

Well i'm optomistic.

In every deck of cards there is the wild card or joker.I'm guessing there's one in our deck as well.What's coming our way cosmically might be the dealing of this card and its affect on our consciousness.

[ExHaLaTiON]

ExHaLaTION said:

And on top of all that, I am sure that someone(s) is waiting in the wings to conquer us all over again once the old crumbles.
We can starve this beast but what other beast may lay hiding?

Well i'm optomistic.

In every deck of cards there is the wild card or joker.I'm guessing there's one in our deck as well.What's coming our way cosmically might be the dealing of this card and its affect on our consciousness.

I'll stay optimistic with you, lets hope the "joker" can lend us a hand.

[Lord Sidious]

Why would we need another system after we get rid of this one?
Why can't we go back to our old ways that worked so well?
Or, even better, transcend systems and move on?

[ponda]

Why would we need another system after we get rid of this one?
Why can't we go back to our old ways that worked so well?
Or, even better, transcend systems and move on?


Good points.

As you suggest to 'simplify things' might be the best and easiest way to balance everything out.It's a complicated issue for us at the moment so the simplest alternative might be the best solution.

The problem is that everyone has an opinion and they all aren't the same.What's the best and fairest compromise ? Probably depends on many things.Flexibility might be important.I think it's going to take a completely different mindset to get there.Maybe it's on its way.:)

One way, might be to work out what an environmentally friendly and sustainable planet is first, taking into account all of the species that live on it and then work back from there.

[Jendayi]

well.. these protests are part of a bigger movement all around the world.. and each of us plays a part in what's happening whether we know it or not.. some protest, some join an underground resistance, some simply hold a space of love and peace by just being here. as to replace the system we so desperately wish to collapse, we only need 1 rule: "do no harm".
it's really that simple...
and yes.. most of us will have to adopt a different mindset or they will be having a unnecessary hard time adapting to having their freedom back once again.
much love..

[ktlight]

There's one thing missing from the equation for change.An answer.There's no viable alternative system on the table.If there was a viable alternative way of doing things then it would be promoted by everyone who is protesting and revolting but it isn't.Everyone wants change but no one knows what to change to.

Do we get rid of money and profit ? Do we share everything equally ? Do we bring in accountability and proper checks and balances etc ? There has to be a proper viable alternative system to change to before real change can take place imho.


cheers

Ponda, I agree with you. It just needs discussion and organisation IMHO. When Atticus was on the forum, there was an immediate influx of people pulling together. I, for one, cannot wait to see this happening in this forum, with the whole focus on organising what to do about what is going on, producing remedies etc. I know it can be done if we all pull together. There are some remarkable examples of possibilities, even in this forum.

[siggy]

There's one thing missing from the equation for change.An answer.There's no viable alternative system on the table.If there was a viable alternative way of doing things then it would be promoted by everyone who is protesting and revolting but it isn't.Everyone wants change but no one knows what to change to.

Do we get rid of money and profit ? Do we share everything equally ? Do we bring in accountability and proper checks and balances etc ? There has to be a proper viable alternative system to change to before real change can take place imho.

cheers

We need to reduce the population to 500 million and keep them in specific city areas, keeping 95% of planet free from human intervention so that it can regain balance.
No wait that's not the right answer is it!??!?!?

We need a new world order.... no wait, that's not right!

We need to return back to past systems - we need to kneel to our vassal lords who'll protect us from the rampaging hordes (north / south / east / west ) of 'our' borders.
No that doesn't sound right either!!!!!

I'm stumped - but treating all people with understanding and compassion might be a good start (but how can I do this for TPTB???).

[Gustav]

Jendayi, any updates that you know of since the demonstrations were yesterday. And as expected nothing was reported in the msm.

=== Added ===

A video from Valencia, although it is from the 27th

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Greece, the 29th. But that is not new, they are already protesting there for the last three years if not longer...

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France at the place where once the Bastille stood in a peaceful manner

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And wait for it... oh there are the police banging on the heads of people

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Danish doc about the 29th of may

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Another one from greece. this one is Athens

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[mondaze]

we have to look back to the fall of the roman empire, what happened there is a clue to what will happen here...

[ponda]

siggy said:

We need to reduce the population to 500 million and keep them in specific city areas, keeping 95% of planet free from human intervention so that it can regain balance.
No wait that's not the right answer is it!??!?!?

We need a new world order.... no wait, that's not right!

We need to return back to past systems - we need to kneel to our vassal lords who'll protect us from the rampaging hordes (north / south / east / west ) of 'our' borders.
No that doesn't sound right either!!!!!

I'm stumped - but treating all people with understanding and compassion might be a good start (but how can I do this for TPTB???).

Yes that's right siggy it aint gonna be easy.

IMHO the main reason is because of our conditioning.We only know the current way.We have always relied on and functioned under the current way BUT as ktlight said if everyone put there heads together then we would be able to come up with 'alternatives'(plural) and not just a singular alternative or one size fits all approach.It might call for a new more flexible philosophical approach to living.

[siggy]

IMHO the answer is localisation; look after and care for your local environment (people, animals, nature, resources) - after all you / me / we have to live there.

I don't see any benefit's to globalisation - other than cheap clothes & tee-shirts [where would we be without 3rd world children to exploit] and tasteless, uniform, fruit and veg all year round [I can't remember the last time I had an orange that tasted of anything].

[Lettherebelight]

There's no stopping it, the subsequent generations have taken up the banner..

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[phillipbbg]

World population

World 6,921,687,121
14:47 UTC (EST+5) May 30, 2011

Now only about 10 million control the world could be less, and don't count soldiers etc they just do as they are told and are the people also....
Simple numbers, unfortunately it takes a lot to move an elephant with a feather.... still a nice big thorn will do nicely... don't spend any money for a couple of days, don't deposit any money in any bank for a couple of days..... desert the supermarkets, buy off each other...etc

Or if you are a Gov worker "work to rule" the system grinds to a halt every time.

[Newlyn]

To BE a change yourself is very powerful.

People say: What does it help if I change, but no one else?

Answer is, don´t bother about the others, they will have what they create. The magic is that, if you change your focus and vibration you INSTANTLY change the world. You align yourself with others who are on the same level, and see signs of change and different behaviour around you.

And the best part: Your positiv energy in this will inspire others and affect them, and the whole humanity aswell.

So, the change HAS to come from inside. It´s not a cliché, it´s how true change can develop, in our selves and after in the outer world, as a natural projection.

---

An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy.

"It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego." He continued, "The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too."

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"

The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."

[Carmody]

The number that control is actually considerably less.(than 10 million)

The problem will be that as the structure begins to come down..just like the Nazi's and others, the guilty and complicit will be doing everything they can to erase their names and connections to the system they are involved in.


The large PTB infrastructure is just 'beast murmurings' of the kind of people who have low empathy and get stuck in herding mentalities.

Herding mentalities that are based on their low empathy, low reach of vision, and self interest. Thus all the secret societies religions and scholastic/academic/scientific groups which are full of false visions of enlightenment.* Enlightenment that is designed to fool the kind of people that join such groups. All based in/on limited reach and limited scope ego visions and projections. The ego projecting a certain shape of truth into the mix--- to keep itself safe.

*(multiple layers of 'pre-echo' of the real truth.... which they are too frighted to look at JUST LIKE YOU. Yes, you. Very few people are truly opened up at the soul level. The ego will tell you lies until your deathbed, for it is tied to you that deeply. consciously recognize this and your inner freedom begins to take shape.)

[phillipbbg]

Like they say the world will not know Peace until we all know peace ourselves.

Also if you just influence one person it has been worth the effort and if you can manage to influence 2 people you can change the world twice as quickly......

[Tony]

Hmm.... If we could get a simple standard message out across the world.
Revealing what is, what has been and what may happen.....hmmm?
Things for people to be on the lookout for.
It has to be believable.

Something that shows that dots can be joined up.

That might worry the dark forces, or even keep them busy.
Nobody in charge...just light the fuse...hmmm

Just thinking allowed....
....am expecting a bang on the door any moment!!!

Tony

[The Mad spirtualist]

David Ikce said it best. The new vibrational construct that is now coming in ... truth vibrations, a cosmic wave, photon belt or whatever you want to call it is going to change everything for us. You either match up with this vibration or be overtaken by it. So raising your vibration is important in order to merge with this on coming wave or you will be run over by it. Many sources of information agree that NOW things are changing and there is only two roads. Broad and spacious is the one leading into destruction/death and narrow is the one to life. Narrow because most can not even detach themselves from the illusion never mind gaining any knowledge that could lead them to life. There are many waking up but not that many compared to the population!

[pharoah21]

The other system I believe is if we all live off the grid. Together. That means we don't move anywhere, but stay where we are. Learn how to plant (just like we have been doing for thousands of years) and grow our own food, herbs, everything. We can all live in small tribes and communities. Food is the most important thing. If we all live in peace, all the different tribes can exchange food and other goods, and the world can turn that way. We can still have technology and all that stuff, that's all good too. It seems kind of ancient if you look at it one way, but look at it the other way. We work. We share. We trade. We live. I just wanna eat and live in peace with humanity, animals, and mother earth.

[The Mad spirtualist]

The other system I believe is if we all live off the grid. Together. That means we don't move anywhere, but stay where we are. Learn how to plant (just like we have been doing for thousands of years) and grow our own food, herbs, everything. We can all live in small tribes and communities. Food is the most important thing. If we all live in peace, all the different tribes can exchange food and other goods, and the world can turn that way. We can still have technology and all that stuff, that's all good too. It seems kind of ancient if you look at it one way, but look at it the other way. We work. We share. We trade. We live. I just wanna eat and live in peace with humanity, animals, and mother earth.


This and more....nothing stands still but is always evolving, improving, striving etc.

[Taurean]

Several recent movies allude to the fact that Humanity is " at it's best when things are at their worst ". ie Starman, The Day the Earth Stood Still, Abyss, et al, and even Avatar fits that scenario.

The quote appears to originate from Churchill " we will do our best and Hitler will do his worst ". It seems in times of trouble a collective spirit emerges to save the day, ie in general we all start looking out for, and start working for each other. ( opportunists do so at your peril ! ).

It seems as though certain movie directors are actually tasked with trying to put this message over.

[pharoah21]

Several recent movies allude to the fact that Humanity is " at it's best when things are at their worst ". ie Starman, The Day the Earth Stood Still, Abyss, et al, and even Avatar fits that scenario.

The quote appears to originate from Churchill " we will do our best and Hitler will do his worst ". It seems in times of trouble a collective spirit emerges to save the day, ie in general we all start looking out for, and start working for each other. ( opportunists do so at your peril ! ).

It seems as though certain movie directors are actually tasked with trying to put this message over.

This is true. At the start of the year when Queensland were having their Cyclones and floods, people reported seeing strange things......like mice or frogs sitting on the backs of foxes trying to escape together. Many different animals which usually have a predator/prey relationship actually became companions, or at worst, run along side each other. They just wanted to survive.

We can learn many things by studying animals. Nature is our greatest teacher. So is history. Look at all the war that a place like Italy has gone through, and now all the people there are some of the most artistic and creative people on the planet. And look at Switzerland, one of the most peaceful countries in recorded history. They came out with nothing more than a Swiss watch.

The gem cannot be polished without friction, nor man perfected without trials.
Chinese Proverb

[stdante]

The other system I believe is if we all live off the grid. Together. That means we don't move anywhere, but stay where we are. Learn how to plant (just like we have been doing for thousands of years) and grow our own food, herbs, everything. We can all live in small tribes and communities. Food is the most important thing. If we all live in peace, all the different tribes can exchange food and other goods, and the world can turn that way. We can still have technology and all that stuff, that's all good too. It seems kind of ancient if you look at it one way, but look at it the other way. We work. We share. We trade. We live. I just wanna eat and live in peace with humanity, animals, and mother earth.

this is not easy
take a look here, this is the city of Chongqing in China
they are about 32 millions
where are they going to grow food ?

http://www.chine-informations.com/images/upload2/Chongqing.jpg

there are more examples like this
population of Tokyo: 43 milions
New York: 25 mil
Seoul: 24 mil
Mexico: 20 mil

and so on...

[YoungSoul]

I support This revolution entirely.

I've actually made a little wallpaper with a little quote from V.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3020/governments.png

Hope you like it.

[aranuk]

In all these videos there is an absence of leaders speaking to the protestors. The protestors seem to be united without any leadership. Everyone taking charge of themselves. What a great sight this is! I wonder why there were no noticeable agents of the establishment attacking the riot police as is usually the case with peaceful demos? Many more to come I hope.

Stan

[mondaze]

a world without leaders....but who will we follow?

[aranuk]

our own noses

what else?

Stan

and also what we as a group decide to do.

[moon face alpha]

I found my self wondering how western governments would act if we all took to the streets in the same way as the Egyptians Syrians Libyans etc etc.

Lets take the governments of Britain America France etc that are only too happy to intervene in Libya to put a stop to the crimes against human rights that are being carried out under the authority of Gaddafi and his regime in an attempt to stop the uprising.

Doe's anyone think that Britain America or France would act in a similar manner to Gaddafi' or the Syrian Government if they(TPTB) faced the same level of uprising.

[stomy]

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