Don't be 'Fooled' by the 'Global Warming' FEARMONGERS..!

[jackovesk]

The campaign fronted by Blanchett and fellow Australian actor Michael Caton calls on the public to “Say Yes” to cutting carbon pollution.

Vision of the new Climate Change ad campaign fronted by Cate Blanchett and Michael Caton. Couldn't find the official ad anywhere on YouTube yet, apparently it launches tonight. The ad has been met with widespread criticism on the grounds that millionaire Blanchett should not be advocating a tax that will hurt ordinary Australians. Also Michael Caton should go back to seling hamburgers. Has anyone thought about how much carbon is emitted in making a McDonald's Fancy Angus burger?

Here's the Fabian Socialist Labor Govts. new 'Global Warming' Propaganda Ad...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZT5C3bcn0M

Now, here's the 'TRUTH'...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9voS5MJSuM&feature=player_embedded

Nine organisations - including Greenpeace, World Wildlife Fund, GetUP, and the Climate Institute - are behind the ads

PS - Cate Blanchett and Michael Caton, in my eyes you are now both nothing more than a pair of Low-Life SCUMBAG Traitors who never bothered to look into the Facts of this NWO Globalist 'Global Warming' SCAM!

Everyone wants to Decrease Pollution but unessessarily Taxing the Hard-Working public who are already struggling to pay their Energy Bills due to the massive Rises in the 'Cost-Of-Living', will not only widen the Gap between the Rich and Poor but destroy our Economy!

All of this Crap, is done by 'Design' by the NWO Globalists. Period!

Nobody in the MSM dares to mention what this SCAM has already done to Countries like Spain!

[Mad Hatter]

Mad Hatter dons his cynics cap...

Seems the science has been settled more times than Osama has been knocked off...

I am suprised that Bolta has been given this platform... could it be the influence of one of Tens new shareholders??

From a Machiavellian perspective, the left so hate this bloke that most of the commentariat will be squealing even more than usual about everything he says thus averting more eyeballs from what's really going down.

Be Alert folks, Australia needs more lerts...

[Lily de Cuir]

Couldn't agree with you more Jacko and Mad Hatter.

What a crock of ****e.

I think slowly the tide is turning. More and more Aussies don't believe this BS. We're not stupid.

Blanchett is a great actress, 'but stick to your day job Darling'. I suggest we boycott her films and theatre work.

How dare she with her $millions, living in a mansion in Hunters Hill (Sydney) with household staff, nanny and chauffeur, and who also received a grant from the government to help with the electricity bill at the Sydney Theatre Company, of whom she is a director with her husband and who has no problem paying an electricity bill at her mansion - start spewing off to the masses!

Note how the people in the ad are 'dressed down' in jeans and flanny shirts to appeal to the Aussie battlers. And the main verbal cue is 'make the big corporations pay' - doublespeak! It is the ordinary people that pay! The slaves.

Forgive me, for I have sinned; I worked in the advertising industry for more years than I care to remember. I didn't know then what I know now, but now I can see through it all like a plane of glass.

Forgive my simplicity, but I don't get how paying extra taxes is going to make any difference in the climate. Can someone enlighten me?

Cheers,
Lily:mad2:

[jackovesk]

Couldn't agree with you more Jacko and Mad Hatter.

What a crock of ****e.

I think slowly the tide is turning. More and more Aussies don't believe this BS. We're not stupid.

Blanchett is a great actress, 'but stick to your day job Darling'. I suggest we boycott her films and theatre work.

How dare she with her $millions, living in a mansion in Hunters Hill (Sydney) with household staff, nanny and chauffeur, and who also received a grant from the government to help with the electricity bill at the Sydney Theatre Company, of whom she is a director with her husband and who has no problem paying an electricity bill at her mansion - start spewing off to the masses!

Note how the people in the ad are 'dressed down' in jeans and flanny shirts to appeal to the Aussie battlers. And the main verbal cue is 'make the big corporations pay' - doublespeak! It is the ordinary people that pay! The slaves.

Forgive me, for I have sinned; I worked in the advertising industry for more years than I care to remember. I didn't know then what I know now, but now I can see through it all like a plane of glass.

Forgive my simplicity, but I don't get how paying extra taxes is going to make any difference in the climate. Can someone enlighten me?

Cheers,
Lily:mad2:

Thankyou you Lily,

This TRUTH coming from someone who lives in one of Australia's Green Central 'Byron Bay'!

I Hope & Pray even the Greenies in your Neck-Of-The-Woods can SEE right through this SCAM Lily?

[jackovesk]

Couldn't agree with you more Jacko and Mad Hatter.

What a crock of ****e.

I think slowly the tide is turning. More and more Aussies don't believe this BS. We're not stupid.

Blanchett is a great actress, 'but stick to your day job Darling'. I suggest we boycott her films and theatre work.

How dare she with her $millions, living in a mansion in Hunters Hill (Sydney) with household staff, nanny and chauffeur, and who also received a grant from the government to help with the electricity bill at the Sydney Theatre Company, of whom she is a director with her husband and who has no problem paying an electricity bill at her mansion - start spewing off to the masses!

Note how the people in the ad are 'dressed down' in jeans and flanny shirts to appeal to the Aussie battlers. And the main verbal cue is 'make the big corporations pay' - doublespeak! It is the ordinary people that pay! The slaves.

Forgive me, for I have sinned; I worked in the advertising industry for more years than I care to remember. I didn't know then what I know now, but now I can see through it all like a plane of glass.

Forgive my simplicity, but I don't get how paying extra taxes is going to make any difference in the climate. Can someone enlighten me?

Cheers,
Lily:mad2:

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[Daren]

In England on one of those days the better half put the soap box on, it happened to be on conspiracies, and Carbon con was being pushed very hard they even got top NASA people to say the sun dose not affect the weather, it was all done by a lord who happened to be a scientist saying they need to explain there lies much better to the sheep. I may have use some stronger words but thats how I seen the program as a very well delivered Advertisement. for all there cons including GMOs no mention on haw farmers could be black mailed into using GMOs or why they are flying plains all over the world spaying us with god knows what or why.

[ponda]

One of the few tv shows that i watch each week is the Australian ABC's Q&A show.Some of the Aussies on here might also watch it.

It's a show that discusses various current affairs topics and usually has a panel of 4 or 5 guests which usually include a couple of politicians,a couple of establishment reps and maybe one independent thinker(if you are lucky).There is also a live studio audience which can participate and ask questions as well.

Several times they have discussed the Global Warming topic and not once has it ever been mentioned that the sun might be playing a part or that the entire solar system is being effected.


I haven't watched every show though.

This other important info about a possible cosmic cause for the global weather changes just isn't available in the mainstream from my experience.It seems to be being kept away from the msm.

One of the main reasons i watch Q&A is that people at home who are connected to the internet can send in tweets/comments via the Q&A website.These comments appear on the tv in real time during the broadcast.Some of these comments are very funny and can be more informative than what's being said on the actual show itself.

If anyone's interested you can download recent shows and watch them here:

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/vodcast.htm

[jackovesk]

One of the few tv shows that i watch each week is the Australian ABC's Q&A show.Some of the Aussies on here might also watch it.

It's a show that discusses various current affairs topics and usually has a panel of 4 or 5 guests which usually include a couple of politicians,a couple of establishment reps and maybe one independent thinker(if you are lucky).There is also a live studio audience which can participate and ask questions as well.

Several times they have discussed the Global Warming topic and not once has it ever been mentioned that the sun might be playing a part or that the entire solar system is being effected.
I haven't watched every show though.

One of the main reasons i watch it is that people at home who are connected to the internet can send in tweets/comments via the Q&A website.These comments appear on the tv in real time during the broadcast.Some of these comments are very funny and can be more informative than what's being said on the actual show itself.

If anyone's interested you can download recent shows and watch them here:

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/vodcast.htm

I too watch it religiously every week, Ponda...

The sole reason being, I always try and keep myself Up-To-Date with what the NWO Globalist Propaganda Machine is upto NEXT!!!

[ponda]

The way the topics are discussed is usually biased from what i've seen.The politicians get the most talk time.Then the other establishment reps get the next most talk time.Anyone with an alternative view usually gets attacked from all sides and gets the least amount of talk time.

You do get some refreshingly enlightening views from some of the guests sometimes which is heartening and the audience sometimes ask some very astute questions.

[GlassSteagallfan]

The money raised by the Global Warming scam is supposed to fund the One world govt

[Mad Hatter]

If you really want a dose of cognitive disonance make sure you are logged on to watch the questions from the web audience that won't ever get asked.
I take it as a badge of honour to pose at least one that gets knocked back by the censors err I mean moderators...:p

[ponda]

If you really want a dose of cognitive disonance make sure you are logged on to watch the questions from the web audience that won't ever get asked.
I take it as a badge of honour to pose at least one that gets knocked back by the censors err I mean moderators...:p

Keep up the good work Mad Hatter :)

I'm surprised by some of the humorous comments that get through.Some of them are very smart and funny.

Can you see the knocked back questions and comments on the twitter feed or just on the website ?

I wish that they would have more shows without the politicians.If there is a labor and liberal on there, it usually turns into a policy promotion exhibition.

cheers

[Mike Gorman]

I have always regarded the Australian Labour party as being the line of least Fascism. In a political 'two horse race' what options
does the poor electorate have? This current debacle with the nasty 'et tu Julia' Shakespearean tragedy (poor ol Kev), and Julia abasing herself at the White House, has turned even that rationalization on its head.... I can see Abbot making PM on the strength of all this, I long for a small tract of land away from this-build a modest self sufficient shack :-(

[ponda]

I have always regarded the Australian Labour party as being the line of least Fascism. In a political 'two horse race' what options
does the poor electorate have? This current debacle with the nasty 'et tu Julia' Shakespearean tragedy (poor ol Kev), and Julia abasing herself at the White House, has turned even that rationalization on its head.... I can see Abbot making PM on the strength of all this, I long for a small tract of land away from this-build a modest self sufficient shack :-(

Yeah GalaxyHorse that's the thing.Most people think that they have a choice but in reality there is no choice.Whoever gets in doesn't really matter in the big picture as the flawed 'system' remains.One party tweaks it slightly one way and the other party tweaks it slightly another way but both still tweak it in the same direction.

People are starting to see though this albeit slowly.

Yes a few acres up in the bush away from it all would be nice.

cheers

[phillipbbg]

As the commander of the space station said to the Pope in his link up the other week, you can't see boarders from space and more appropriately we should be using SOLAR energy..... after all solar technology has been used since we began throwing things up in our atmosphere and space.

A 3 kwh system is quite adequate for a normal house holds needs...... you just have to adjust how you use your electricity. The Australian Government don't want to encourage the population to go solar because it would give them energy independence..... instead they are installing large power arrays in certain inland locations to generate the electricity they want to SELL to you....

Strange how it is good enough for the government but not for the people... oh and the funding comes from carbon taxation, so the Australian population are paying for it anyway...Mmmm

[Fred259]

The problem with the global warming scam is that its all part of the new age nonsense that’s goes on continually.

I do have a strong feeling that the ptb are behind that movement a well.

[jackovesk]

Say YES - We want an Election - Not a Dictatorship!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw1mWOlmk58&feature=player_embedded

The 'Carbon Tax' is Something Australians NEVER got to say either Yes or No to...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMVc0IbtyAQ

...Either Before or After the 2010 Election!

[Lord Sidious]

An election?
What good will that do?
That is what got us into this mess to start with.
Remember, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome.
They have the vote rigged in every western country, why the hell would you want to go through that again?

[fox.mulder]

An election?
What good will that do?
That is what got us into this mess to start with.
Remember, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome.
They have the vote rigged in every western country, why the hell would you want to go through that again?

yes this is so true. I'm of the opinion that Julia is a patsy who will take a fall and ultimately Tony Abbott will be the one who actually brings in the carbon tax. Exactly the same thing happened with the GST. The labour gov proposed the idea and it got shot down, and then it was introduced later under the coalition.

[jackovesk]

An election?
What good will that do?
That is what got us into this mess to start with.
Remember, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome.
They have the vote rigged in every western country, why the hell would you want to go through that again?

Sid, yet another 'Statement' albeit 'TRUE',

But again offering No Alternate Workable or Realistic 'Solution'!

[Lord Sidious]

An election?
What good will that do?
That is what got us into this mess to start with.
Remember, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome.
They have the vote rigged in every western country, why the hell would you want to go through that again?

Sid, yet another 'Statement' albeit 'TRUE',

But again offering No Alternate Workable or Realistic 'Solution'!

Oh, I offer solutions, it is just that some of you don't feel they are ''realistic'' although voting is.
Here is your solution.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21558-European-revolution-take-the-street%21&p=231840&viewfull=1#post231840

[oceanz]

I heard on the radio today that the power plant they are standing in front of is not even one from Australia but from England? and a de-commissioned one at that! Apparently because it looks better!

[jackovesk]

I heard on the radio today that the power plant they are standing in front of is not even one from Australia but from England? and a de-commissioned one at that! Apparently because it looks better!

CORRECT..!

http://blogs.news.com.au/images/uploads/batterone.jpg

http://blogs.news.com.au/images/uploads/battersea-power-station1_thumb.jpg

Count the lies in this one still from the ad in which Michael Caton and Cat Blanchett tell us to say “yes” to Julia Gillard’s carbon dioxide tax:



- No, our skies aren’t black with soot.

- No, this tax won’t clear the skies.

- No, this isn’t about carbon but carbon dioxide.

- No, that power station isn’t in Australia, but Britain. It’s in Battersea (UK) and it closed down 30 years ago!

- No, it won’t be closed by Gillard’s tax, not least because it’s closed already.

- No, not one power station in this country pumps out black soot like this.

How can such a lying ad by show by people demanding we “respect the science”?

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/how_dare_this_ad_tell_such_lies/

[Mad Hatter]

@ Ponda
What you see is just the web questions (not tweets) that get past the mods. Highly intelligent thoughtful input that Jones and Co. studiously manage to ignore...

@ Jackovesk Re the 'Say yes-we want an election video'
Thats one of the things I have always loved about this country, the ability to 'take the mickey' in very short order...it seems to have been suppressed somewhat due to the Poltically Correct idiots... but we should make sure as an art form it does not die out by circulating said material, when it is produced, as widely as possible!

[Mike Gorman]

An election?
What good will that do?
That is what got us into this mess to start with.
Remember, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome.
They have the vote rigged in every western country, why the hell would you want to go through that again?

Sid, yet another 'Statement' albeit 'TRUE',

But again offering No Alternate Workable or Realistic 'Solution'!

Trouble is, the 'solution' is something the current state of the Australian electorate is not anywhere near ready for-a complete uprising ousting the
rotten political infrastructure, we are all too busy making lots of money in the mines, or competing with each other to buy SUV's to bother about the
big picture-it is going to take a long, long time before political consciousness reaches the 'critical mass' necessary for the changes we envisage-call me cynical if you like,
but it looks this way-I would be happy to be proven wrong.

[Oldyella]

Read this . . . there's room for thought!!!
Professor Ian Plimer (a member of the School of Earth and Environmental Sciences at the University of Adelaide. He is also a joint member of the School of Civil, Environmental and Mining Engineering) could not have said it better!
If you've read his book you will agree, this is a good summary.


Are you sitting down?

Okay, here's the bombshell. The volcanic eruption in Iceland, since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet, all of you.

Of course you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to suppress, that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow, and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans, and all animal life.

I know, it's very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience and expense of: driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags, sitting up till midnight to finish your kid's "The Green Revolution" science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies, using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home instead of abroad, nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle, replacing all of your 50 cents light bulbs with $10.00 light bulbs...well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the tubes in just four days.

The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in just four days - yes - FOUR DAYS ONLY by that volcano in Iceland, has totally erased every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud any one time - EVERY DAY.

I don't really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention that when the volcano Mt Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in its entire YEARS on earth. Yes folks, Mt Pinatubo was active for over one year, think about it.

Of course I shouldn't spoil this touchy-feely tree-hugging moment and mention the effect of solar and cosmic activity and the well-recognized 800-year global heating and cooling cycle, which keep happening, despite our completely insignificant efforts to affect climate change.

And I do wish I had a silver lining to this volcanic ash cloud but the fact of the matter is that the bush fire season across the western USA and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year.

Just remember that your government just tried to impose a whopping carbon tax on you on the basis of the bogus ''human-caused'' climate change scenario.

Hey, isn't it interesting how they don't mention ''Global Warming'' any more, but just ''Climate Change'' - you know why? It's because the planet has COOLED by 0.7 degrees in the past century and these global warming bull artists got caught with their pants down.

And just keep in mind that you might yet have an Emissions Trading Scheme (that whopping new tax)
imposed on you, that will achieve absolutely nothing except make you poorer. It won't stop any volcanoes from erupting, that's for sure.

But hey, relax, give the world a hug and have a nice day!

PS: I wonder if Iceland is buying carbon offsets?

[bluestflame]

the release of certain amounts of carbon into the atmosphere is a natural part of the cycle of nature , it's when they mix chemical concoctions with it we have a problem , not enough carbon being released affects rainfall

[Lily de Cuir]

Couldn't agree with you more Jacko and Mad Hatter.

What a crock of ****e.

I think slowly the tide is turning. More and more Aussies don't believe this BS. We're not stupid.

Blanchett is a great actress, 'but stick to your day job Darling'. I suggest we boycott her films and theatre work.

How dare she with her $millions, living in a mansion in Hunters Hill (Sydney) with household staff, nanny and chauffeur, and who also received a grant from the government to help with the electricity bill at the Sydney Theatre Company, of whom she is a director with her husband and who has no problem paying an electricity bill at her mansion - start spewing off to the masses!

Note how the people in the ad are 'dressed down' in jeans and flanny shirts to appeal to the Aussie battlers. And the main verbal cue is 'make the big corporations pay' - doublespeak! It is the ordinary people that pay! The slaves.

Forgive me, for I have sinned; I worked in the advertising industry for more years than I care to remember. I didn't know then what I know now, but now I can see through it all like a plane of glass.

Forgive my simplicity, but I don't get how paying extra taxes is going to make any difference in the climate. Can someone enlighten me?

Cheers,
Lily:mad2:

Thankyou you Lily,

This TRUTH coming from someone who lives in one of Australia's Green Central 'Byron Bay'!

I Hope & Pray even the Greenies in your Neck-Of-The-Woods can SEE right through this SCAM Lily?

I doubt it Jacko, it's about 'divide and conquer'. The solution in a small way is to step back, regroup and do our own stuff in small communities.

You can't tell people stuff. One has to lead by example, but how many are pepared to do that?

.........................Big Pause....................

Sorry, have had a major mishap here between what I've written above. About an hour. Carry on.

Cheers,
Lily:(

[Fred259]

It’s good to see a serious debate going on about this in Australia. This didn’t happen in the UK and so I guess the Aussies are leading the way here which is to be welcomed.

Jacko, below is an image of your future King.

This buffoon like his father is probably somewhere near the top of the pile that is the New World Order,who as you know are behind this global warming scam.

I have a feeling you probably want rid of him which is understandable but so do we.

Now come on Jacko, its about time you took your turn, we have had to put up with his nonsense for the last fifty years, can you not find a few acres for him up by crocodile creek. His needs are simple. If not what about we dump him on the Kiwis, maybe they can take him?




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HRH Prince Charles.
Future King of Australia!


Below is a picture of the transport methods used by estate workers on Prince Charles’s estate. It would seem they don’t use tractors.

I’m serious; this is the delivery of the Christmas tree and was featured in the press here in the UK last December.

The image below was itself also used by Charles and Camilla on the front of the Royal Estate official Christmas card.




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Delivery of the Royal household Christmas Tree.

[bluestflame]

trees need carbon to grow

edit to add:

new trees rely on the natural release through bushfire of carbon from old trees

is why carbon is released from wood when it burns , back into the cycle to build strong bodies for new trees

pretty sure it's a natural process

[Lily de Cuir]

Hey Guys, check this out...

Alan Jones* heads up Galileo Movement (climate change deniers). Read how the journalist ridicules those who don't believe in man-made global warming.

*Australian influential right wing radio broadcaster.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/you-are-just-plain-wrong-about-climate-change-mr-jones-20110601-1ffhd.html

(Can't believe I've beaten Jacko to the punch on this one!:pound:)

Lily

[Lord Sidious]

Hawke joins carbon tax battle
Former prime minister Bob Hawke has labelled Liberal leader Tony Abbott "as mad as a cut snake" for his opposition to the Government's climate change proposals.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard had asked Mr Hawke to launch a report into how climate change would affect Kakadu National Park, an initiative of the Hawke government 20 years ago.

Mr Hawke says he faced a fear campaign from the Opposition and mining companies over Kakadu similar to the one he says Ms Gillard is experiencing now over the carbon tax.

"It was going to end the mining industry as we knew it. Investors were going to be frightened off from Australia, they were going to pull up stumps and go away," Mr Hawke said outside Parliament House.

"Now you recognise exactly the same nonsense again."

"Now I don't mind Tony [Abbott], he's not a bad bloke, but as I said during the [election] campaign he's as mad as a cut snake - and he is, on this issue, totally irresponsible.

"This is a real issue about the sort of country this is going to be for his kids, grandchildren and so on."

Mr Hawke described the anti-carbon tax campaign as "cheap opportunism" with its claims that it will be the end of the mining industry, saying households and industry will be protected by compensation.

He defended Ms Gillard's about face on the tax because "circumstances in Parliament have changed since she made that [promise]".

"To trivialise it by saying 'No, the Prime Minister shouldn't do something about this because she made a statement in another circumstances and that should hamstring her forever more from making the right decision' - come on."

He said Ms Gillard and the Government had not handled the climate change debate "perfectly" but: "I can't remember a more difficult subject for a government to sell than this".

"You've got to think afresh, you've got no precedents to draw from, and you've got so many vested interests in the community who are looking at this issue through their own interest and not the national interest."

He said two years until the next election would give Labor plenty of time to win the debate.

"What the Government has done is really show the bad bits. The details of the good bits are still to come.

"As the details are unfolded, as the science here and around the world continues to confirm the necessity for action, my confidence in both Julia and the Government and in the Australian people leads me to the conclusion that this argument will be won."

Speaking earlier, Mr Abbott said people should not assume the carbon tax will become law, saying some Labor MPs are "very concerned" - especially those in coal-mining seats.

"They are speaking out privately and I think pretty soon they are going to be speaking out publicly.

"Let's not forget that this tax ultimately spells death for the coal industry. It spells death for the manufacturing industry, because the whole point of this tax is to say that the coal industry is not the foundation of a modern economy but is something that threatens the survival of our planet."

Mr Abbott said he was "really pleased" that 21 economists today signed a letter supporting climate change action, but said he wants "the people" to have their say too.

"Economists are important. Economists count. But every Australian is important, every Australian counts and that's why we need an election. The public needs to have their say on this tax, not just celebrities and not just economists."


http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/Hawke-joins-carbon-tax-battle-abc-3710424343.html

[jackovesk]

Hey Guys, check this out...

Alan Jones* heads up Galileo Movement (climate change deniers). Read how the journalist ridicules those who don't believe in man-made global warming.

*Australian influential right wing radio broadcaster.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/you-are-just-plain-wrong-about-climate-change-mr-jones-20110601-1ffhd.html

(Can't believe I've beaten Jacko to the punch on this one!:pound:)

Lily

Hi Lily,

I did read that which was just another Labor Govt 'Hit Piece' on Climate Change Sceptics, written by Bob Beale...

This is who he really works for..!

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=950423589752&id=ce65d6bc7151f48c66e8579de3029c8e&url=http%3a%2f%2fwebstore.science.unsw.edu.au%2fBAN21A.JPG

Bob Beale - Public Affairs Manager (PR Manager) UNSW Faculty of Science
BA (Communications), Charles Sturt University

http://www.science.unsw.edu.au/uploads/28174/ufiles/beale.JPG

Bob's professional background is in mass media, mainly as a writer specialising in science, medicine, environment and technology. He graduated in Communications from Mitchell CAE (now Charles Sturt University) in 1979. He is the author of five non-fiction books on science and environmental themes.

Bob is responsible for strategic advice and planning on all matters relating to the faculty's public profile and media relations.

Bob Beale has been a writer for more than 25 years, specialising in science and the environment. He worked for many years as a journalist at The Sydney Morning Herald where he was the former chief of staff, European correspondent and science and environment editor.

He is now a freelance writer whose work appears regularly in The Bulletin and Reader's Digest, and he is a contributor to a wide range of Australian and international science and medical magazines.

His awards include five times winner or finalist of the Michael Daley Award for science journalism, winner of the Peter Hunt Prize for environmental journalism, and finalist in the Walkley Awards for journalism.


Michael Daley Award for science journalism

Peter Hunt Prize for environmental journalism

Sponsored by;

Australian Research Council, CSIRO, University of Sydney, University of Technology, Sydney, University of NSW, Macquarie University, National Water Commission, NSW Department of Environment and Climate Change, Department of Environment, Water Heritage and the Arts, Department of Industry, Innovation, Science and Research, NSW Office of Science and Medical Research and the ABC.

Well its not to hard to figure out who pays Bob Beales Salary!

Go Figure...Hey Lily

[Lily de Cuir]

Hey Guys, check this out...

Alan Jones* heads up Galileo Movement (climate change deniers). Read how the journalist ridicules those who don't believe in man-made global warming.

*Australian influential right wing radio broadcaster.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/you-are-just-plain-wrong-about-climate-change-mr-jones-20110601-1ffhd.html

(Can't believe I've beaten Jacko to the punch on this one!:pound:)

Lily

Hi Lily,

I did read that which was just another Labor Govt 'Hit Piece' on Climate Change Sceptics, written by Bob Beale...

This is who he really works for..!

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=950423589752&id=ce65d6bc7151f48c66e8579de3029c8e&url=http%3a%2f%2fwebstore.science.unsw.edu.au%2fBAN21A.JPG

Bob Beale - Public Affairs Manager (PR Manager) UNSW Faculty of Science
BA (Communications), Charles Sturt University

http://www.science.unsw.edu.au/uploads/28174/ufiles/beale.JPG

Bob's professional background is in mass media, mainly as a writer specialising in science, medicine, environment and technology. He graduated in Communications from Mitchell CAE (now Charles Sturt University) in 1979. He is the author of five non-fiction books on science and environmental themes.

Bob is responsible for strategic advice and planning on all matters relating to the faculty's public profile and media relations.

Bob Beale has been a writer for more than 25 years, specialising in science and the environment. He worked for many years as a journalist at The Sydney Morning Herald where he was the former chief of staff, European correspondent and science and environment editor.

He is now a freelance writer whose work appears regularly in The Bulletin and Reader's Digest, and he is a contributor to a wide range of Australian and international science and medical magazines.

His awards include five times winner or finalist of the Michael Daley Award for science journalism, winner of the Peter Hunt Prize for environmental journalism, and finalist in the Walkley Awards for journalism.


Michael Daley Award for science journalism

Peter Hunt Prize for environmental journalism

Sponsored by;

Australian Research Council, CSIRO, University of Sydney, University of Technology, Sydney, University of NSW, Macquarie University, National Water Commission, NSW Department of Environment and Climate Change, Department of Environment, Water Heritage and the Arts, Department of Industry, Innovation, Science and Research, NSW Office of Science and Medical Research and the ABC.

Well its not to hard to figure out who pays Bob Beales Salary!

Go Figure...Hey Lily

Incisive and forensic sleuthing Jacko. Are you a detective in this or a former life?

Mmmm....nothing is as it seems. I'm just pissed off because it's Alan Jones, lol, I've never been part of his radar. I guess it's all the 'divide and conquer' thing and confusing the thinkers.

Gotta keep on your toes in this game eh?

Lily:cool2:

[OnyxKnight]

Last winter was the coldest winter I have experienced in my humble 22 years of life on this planet.

And from what I was able to gather by interacting with other people, especially on this subject, is that they have experienced similar weather. And they also believe less and less into this stupid myth.

Al Gore, the people want their tax money back! You know, those you collected for your little myth campaign!

And in cash please !!!

[jackovesk]

Incisive and forensic sleuthing Jacko. Are you a detective in this or a former life?

Gotta keep on your toes in this game eh?

Lily:cool2:

No Lily, I just Can"t Fuking stand Scum Bag LIERS!!!!!

[Cjay]

Jackovesk, THANK YOU for starting this thread. It adds a lot to the previous thread you started: Australian Climate Commissioner Prof. Tim Flannery 'CAUGHT OUT' on Climate Change! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17303-Australian-Climate-Commissioner-Prof.-Tim-Flannery-CAUGHT-OUT-on-Climate-Change%21)

Thanks also to everyone who replied. I am glad to see so many people are paying attention.

Does anyone else remember Bob Hawke's promise to plant 1 billion trees? I believe that was in the late 1970's. How many trees did they actually plant? I could probably count them on one hand by making a circle with my thumb and forefinger. So more than 30 years on, he is arguing for something completely useless - carbon tax - instead of reminding us of his fairly sensible idea - planting a billion trees. We need to plant AT LEAST tens of billions of trees globally, regardless of atmospheric CO2 levels, just to BEGIN to replace the trees humans have cut down in the last 200 years.

It was interesting (no, I should say tragically amusing) in the article criticising Alan Jones' simple arithmetic - "Australians are responsible for an incredibly tiny 0.000018 per cent of global carbon dioxide. And if we cut our own emissions by 5 per cent, as Canberra has pledged, that's a reduction of 0.0000009 per cent." - the author, Bob Beale desperately rebutted: "we could argue that we only produce 0.000018 per cent of the world's terrorists, of hungry and poor people, of malaria and cholera cases, and so on." Beale went on to compare blood-alcohol levels from drinking beer to atmospheric CO2. As if that is not irrelevant enough, Beale then rants about sunscreen, ozone, a bathtub with a dripping tap and leaking plug and flag-waving carbon molecules.

Excuse me?

Unbe-EFFING-lievable. How stupid do they think we are? And they call us skeptics "morons". As I keep saying for the benefit of those who may still be sleeping - WAKE UP AND SMELL THE BULLSH*T :doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:

[Cjay]

The propoganda juggernaut is rolling out more of their scare campaign.


Shopping centres, office buildings, roads and railways worth $226 billion could be at risk if climate change causes the sea level to rise around one metre by 2100.

Climate Change Minister Greg Combet says a new report examining the impact of global warming on non-residential infrastructure clarifies the cost of not taking action.

"The report shows exposure of coastal assets to sea level rise is widespread and will likely increase into the future," Mr Combet said in a statement.

"Assets at risk from the combined impact of inundation and erosion include between 5800 and 8600 commercial buildings, between 3700 and 6200 light industrial buildings and between 27,000 and 35,000 kilometres of roads and rail."

The report's assessment is based on a sea level rise of 1.1m by the end of the century.

Labor's climate commission says the most plausible estimate of sea level rise by 2100 is 0.5 to 1m.

That is higher than the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's top range of 0.18 to 0.76m.

Mr Combet said Australia could avoid the worst of the potential impacts if carbon pollution was reduced.
"That is why the government is committed to putting a price on carbon."



Source: http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/article/9579441/coastal-assets-worth-226b-at-risk-combet/

The reader comments for this "story" include:


I cant believe combet says this garbage with a straight face ...can you please tell me whos going to win the first at randwick next weekend combet ..you are kidding right .....the world is stll flat too !


This heretic should be burned at the stake.


More Gillard Labor Party Propaganda.


Let me get this right, Australia brings in a carbon tax, the price of everything rises, the standard of living drops, and Australians' sacrifice will stop the ocean from rising 1 metre, meanwhile China builds an new coal powered generator every week.

At least some people are awake.

[T Smith]

Who is fooled by global warming? Great post, if only we could broadcast it to the world...

[jackovesk]

The Celebrity 'Global Warming' Con..!

The Bolt Report - June 5th, 2011 starts @ 1.11 mins


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNgV9QYO1XE

[leavesoftrees]

Here is a good radio doco looking at those countries (mainly Scandinavian) that have introduced a tax on energy, and how effective it is

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/rearvision/stories/2011/3230710.htm

[jackovesk]

Here is a good radio doco looking at those countries (mainly Scandinavian) that have introduced a tax on energy, and how effective it is

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/rearvision/stories/2011/3230710.htm

Hi leavesoftrees

I listened to the majority of the doco...

Don't be fooled by this, to me there is alot of 'DoubleSpeak' in this doco and Out & Out Lies..!

A Tax is a Tax is a Tax not matter what way you Spin it! And a Tax on Carbon Dioxide is just sheer lunacy!

If we are talking about the real impact of a Carbon Tax/Green Economy have a good look at Spain and ask yourself why they have an unemployment rate of approx. 20% and people demonstrating in the streets. For every 1 Green Job created, 2-3 Real Jobs are lost!

More shallow rhetoric the Left-Leaning ABC (666)..!

Tens of thousands of Spanish youths have rallied in the capital Madrid to protest high unemployment, job insecurity and the government's spending cuts. The rally turned violent after demonstrators clashed with police.

The ABC didn't mention Spain did they? So much for the Green Economy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWo5EMj_GIQ

PS - Here's a Link to 20 +++ Videos showing how unhappy the Spanish people are with their Green Economy!

Designed exactly how the NWO Globalist planned the Con, to literally destroy Economies and shut out the Middle Class and have more people dependent on Big Govt. whilst the Gap between the Rich and the Poor expands!

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=spain+demonstration&aq=f

[Cjay]

Oh the propoganda machine spinneth like a tornado.

From today's Herald Sun newspaper (Melbourne):


DEATHS from bushfires and floods are the result of political inaction on climate change, one of Victoria's most powerful unionists said yesterday.

Speaking at a rally calling for the introduction of a carbon price, United Firefighters Union national secretary Peter Marshall said bushfire deaths in South Australia, Victoria and Western Australia, as well as fatalities in the recent Queensland floods, were the result of politicians dithering on the issue..

Read the full story: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/politicians-blamed-for-deadly-fires-floods/story-e6frf7jo-1226069763959

All this despite the recent Climate Commission report saying:


"The floods across eastern Australia... not the result of climate change"

One obvious truth is, these people don't care how many lies they tell to push their agenda.

[Cjay]

Also from today's Herald Sun newspaper (Melbourne):


Two-thirds of voters want Prime Minister Julia Gillard to call an election before introducing the carbon tax, and three-quarters believe it will leave them financially worse off and deliver little or no benefit for the environment.

An exclusive Galaxy Poll for the Herald Sun also shows 58 per cent of people are opposed to the carbon tax. Just 28 per cent are in favour, with 14 per cent uncommitted.

The national poll of 500 people taken last week says 64 per cent believe the Prime Minister should call an early election before she introduces the new tax. Only 24 per cent think she already has a mandate.

and


The poll finds 73 per cent of people believe they will be financially worse off if the carbon tax is introduced. Only 7 per cent say they will be better off, and 20 per cent don't know.

Read the full story: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/julia-gillard-told-to-test-the-carbon-tax-at-the-polls/story-e6frf7jo-1226069761840

The political truth behind this is that the Labour Party did not win a majority at the last election so they were forced to do deals with the Greens and Independents in order to form government in a "hung" parliament. If they wake up to the reality of what the majority of people want and call an election, they will lose - and they know it. It is all so very deceitful. Such is politics.


This picture of our Prime Minister arrived in email this morning, with the caption:
"You will never be able to look at an emu again without thinking of this picture"

7902

[Carmen]

Okay, havent read any of the threads here, but can you explain why my daffodils are flowering because they think it's spring!!!

[Cjay]

Carmen, if your daffodils think it is spring, perhaps your soil temperature is slightly warmer than usual for this time of year. Did you have a week of warm or sunny weather? Daffodils flowering at unexpected times is really not so unusual. The first rule of gardening (and of life in general) is expect the unexpected.

There are always variations in climate from one year to the next. If you doubt that, have a thorough look at the historical records.

I have tomato plants flowering in my garden and I am still picking tomatoes almost every day, which does seem a little strange for this time of year (at the start of our winter) but on the other hand, we almost never get frost where I live. There are other plants in my garden that are flowering too but that is nothing unusual.

No, I can't explain what is going on in your garden in New Zealand but I don't think it has anything to do with man-made global warming (this year and last year seem to be two of the coolest years in the last 15 years, at least where I live) or "climate change" (we still have more or less the same climate we have had for most of my 50 years).

It certainly has nothing to do with lies and deception from politicians and very biased scientists who are paid by the lying politicians to help support their political agenda, which is what this thread is about.

Ever since newspapers, radio and television came into existence, they have been used and abused as a means of brainwashing. Whenever you hear politicians saying the same things over and over and over, especially when they use the exact same words as each other, it is brainwashing. Brainwashing works best through repetition. Maybe, five or ten years ago, most people believed the brainwashing about climate change being man-made but some free thinking people have always had reasonable doubts.

"Climate gate" proved the IPCC scientists have been deliberately and systematically "cooking the books" for decades. The lies the politicians and their paid advisors repeat endlessly have been exposed by a relative handful of brave journalists, literally thousands of independent scientists and millions of independent thinkers. No longer is it just a single little boy in the crowd saying the Emperor is naked. The majority are waking up too.

I suggest you read these posts as they provide very strong proof of some of the lies and deception we are being fed every day.

[jackovesk]

Okay, havent read any of the threads here, but can you explain why my daffodils are flowering because they think it's spring!!!

Hi Carmen,

They are your daffodils, so why don't you explain it for us?

[Carmen]

Okay, they are flowering because we havent had winter yet and they have had a dormancy period, but not the low temperatures to cause them to stay dormant, so, they are flowering. Some people even have spring blossums out on trees. You guys can argue all you like about no man made global warming, but nature is saying something different!!! This is very unusual. Actually the last couple of years in particular we have had mild weather up till end of June maybe, then winter kicks in and the weather is kinda crap till Christmas time. Something is definitely happening. As I said before you can argue and philosophize all you like but go take a look outside. Things are changing here anyway.

[Mad Hatter]

Hi Carmen,

Does your government set the official dates for the seasons and if so have they ever been changed these to suit the natural drift in seasons? I find many people think it should be cold and raining because the official start to winter has been declared so a certain amount of uncertainty is generated by this process / programming.

Also I don't think you will find too many intelligent people deny that is has warmed, although according to official records there has been slight cooling over the last decade, it's just that for those who have done even a modicum of research on the issue they pretty quickly come to the conclusion that the warming has nothing really to do with mans carbon dioxide input.

Anyone who has followed the money trail soon discovers it is a massive con that has been going on for over thirty years and thus have a tendancy to be quite vocal when it comes to this debate.

As a shortcut, for those interested, dig into a bloke by the name of 'Maurice Strong', his relationship with the 'Club of Rome' and their involvement in the first 'Earth Summit' and what is known as 'Agenda 21'...after that the dots all the way through to climategate fall into place pretty quickly!!

cheers

[Carmen]

Okay, I admit, I have not researched the subject at all, but I do take the point that the idea of global warming seems to generate a whole lot more taxing of people who can ill afford it.

I dates are set,( the months really), and I dont remember them having been changed. We are experiencing something different now than just a few years ago. I am on the land so I'm observing nature first hand and conditions, temperatures are very warm for this time of year. Our animals for instance have not put on substantial coats this year. They are usually the first indicators of cold weather. Conditions are also considerably wetter. But this feeling of spring in the air I have never experienced like this before. The grass still growning, the birds singing, plants flowering!!!

[Cjay]

We have a saying in Melbourne. "If you don't like the weather, wait five minutes."

It is absolutely normal to have some warm winters and some cool summers. It is not mysterious at all - to me, anyway.

- EDIT -

In 1906, Dorothea Mackellar wrote:


I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of drought and flooding rains...

Droughts and flooding rains (climate variation) were happening in Australia long before that and they will continue long after the last human is dead. A carbon tax will not stop it. It will just make us all poorer.

Parts of Australia went through 14 years of drought. The fearmongers were telling us then we must accept a carbon tax or we will never see decent rain again. Then the rain came and we had floods. The same fearmongers were telling us we must accept a carbon tax or we will all drown.

What are the common denominators? They are trying to SCARE us into accepting a CARBON TAX we don't need - a tax that will NOT make a measurable difference to the climate. It is a massive scam to suck TRILLIONS of dollars from our pockets, globally.

[jackovesk]

Okay, they are flowering because we havent had winter yet and they have had a dormancy period, but not the low temperatures to cause them to stay dormant, so, they are flowering. Some people even have spring blossums out on trees. You guys can argue all you like about no man made global warming, but nature is saying something different!!! This is very unusual. Actually the last couple of years in particular we have had mild weather up till end of June maybe, then winter kicks in and the weather is kinda crap till Christmas time. Something is definitely happening. As I said before you can argue and philosophize all you like but go take a look outside. Things are changing here anyway.


Okay, I admit, I have not researched the subject at all, but I do take the point that the idea of global warming seems to generate a whole lot more taxing of people who can ill afford it.

I dates are set,( the months really), and I dont remember them having been changed. We are experiencing something different now than just a few years ago. I am on the land so I'm observing nature first hand and conditions, temperatures are very warm for this time of year. Our animals for instance have not put on substantial coats this year. They are usually the first indicators of cold weather. Conditions are also considerably wetter. But this feeling of spring in the air I have never experienced like this before. The grass still growning, the birds singing, plants flowering!!!

Welcome to the debate Carmen,

Let me introduce you to one the world's leading Climate Scientists Professor Richard Lindzen...

http://www.desmogblog.com/sites/beta.desmogblog.com/files/richard-lindzen.jpg

Background

Richard S. Lindzen holds a Ph.D. in applied mathematics from Harvard University. Currently, Dr. Lindzen is the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorolgy at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).

Professor Lindzen's academic interests lie within the topics of "Climate, Planetary Waves, Monsoon Meteorology, Planetary Atmospheres, and Hydrodynamic Instability." According to his curriculum vitae and Google Scholar, Dr. Lindzen has published over 200 peer-reviewed articles in the field of Climatology.

His overall Message on Climate Change is this...

Why you should not worry


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1CR0v7dwXU&feature=related

In closing Professor Linden Quote: "To add Insult to Injury, to propose Policies i.e. Carbon Tax that would have nothing to do with (Climate Change/Global Warming) that would involve $Trillions of dollars and Harm to many People is I think, Crossing The Line!"

PS - We all know there has been a spate of Natural Disasters around the world of late (Which tends to Spark Fear/Uncertainty into the Uneducated). Which I believe has nothing to do with the so called 'Global Warming' and more to do with Earth's proximaty to the Sun, I won't even get into the possibility of HAARP being used a weapon etc...

All in All there is no need for a Carbon Tax, especially based upon Govt. Lies and Fear of the Unknown. When you really look into all sides of the debate there is no other rational conclusion one can come to...

Regards,

Jack

[letmedanz]

Did i not hear that 'global warming' was now a bad brand name since it had been tarnished in Copenhagen & now they decided to re-brand this as climate change??

well, same devil different name.
they are probably trying to get some returns out of the multi billion dollar investment into this scam.

at least the people are not yet so naive to fall for this... or are they?

[oceanz]

http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFLDE75407H20110605?sp=true

W.Bank to suggest CO2 levy on jet, shipping fuel
Sun Jun 5, 2011 1:38pm GMT
* New climate deal unlikely to be agreed before Kyoto ends
* Focus increasingly on finance, including $100 bln pledge
By Gerard Wynn
BONN, Germany, June 5 (Reuters) -

The World Bank will suggest a global levy on jet and shipping fuel in recommendations to G20 governments later this year on raising climate finance, a senior official said on Sunday.

Developed countries have already written off chances of agreement on a new binding deal at a U.N. conference in Durban this year, placing a new focus on piecemeal efforts including fund-raising.

Binding targets under the Kyoto Protocol cap the greenhouse gas emissions of nearly 40 industrialised countries but expire in 2012 and now look unlikely to be extended in time.

The World Bank is focusing on a levy on shipping and jet fuels in a report to G20 finance minister in October, among other efforts to keep climate action on track.

"We are looking at carbon emissions-based sources ... including bunker (shipping) fuels and aviation fuels, that would be internationally coordinated albeit nationally collected," said Andrew Steer, World Bank special envoy for climate change.

The Bank estimates the extra cost to help the developing world prepare for more droughts, floods and rising seas at $100 billion annually. Various sources put the extra cost of cutting carbon emissions at $200 billion or more annually.
(Read more at above link)

[jackovesk]

Does Carbon Cate really believe what she preaches?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vxMZj_NvU0&feature=player_embedded

But won’t rising seas drown the island? Won’t flying there cause planet-choking emissions? Isn’t owning so many properties a crime against the fragile planet?

Or does Cate Blanchett not believe her own eco-alarmism?

The movie star-turned-eco warrior is believed to have recently bought a plot of land in Vanuatu, one of the countries hardest hit by global warming....

Blanchett is thought to have bought some waterfront property in or around the luxury area of Havannah Harbour during a visit last year…

Other sources said she bought property around Havannah Harbour, where the property market for international celebrities and other jetsetters is booming…

The Vanuatu travel and luxury magazine Pacifique breathlessly opined: “Cate Blanchett’s purchase in Havannah Harbour has everyone rethinking this tropical paradise.”

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/does_cate_really_believe_what_she_preaches/

[Cjay]

[QUOTE]http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFLDE75407H20110605?sp=true

W.Bank to suggest CO2 levy on jet, shipping fuel

If that is not strong evidence of who is behind the global conspiracy, I'm an amoeba.

[Cjay]

Does Carbon Cate really believe what she preaches?

Skeptic (me): "As professor Linden stated (see post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21606-Don-t-be-Fooled-by-the-Global-Warming-FEARMONGERS..%21&p=237481&viewfull=1#post237481)), some land is rising, some land is sinking. A few years ago while in the Philippines, I wondered about the massive amounts of coral, indeed whole islands, that have risen tens of metres ABOVE sea level."

Fearmonger: "Yeah but yeah but yeah but..."

[Carmen]

So, I have finally read the posts and listened to most of the videos, and I do understand that over all there is no global warming and that the carbon tax is another crock of shet to get people to hand over more money, more money!!!

BTW, you guys were very kind to me when I butted in on this discussion with no prior reading or understanding! I appreciate that!!

I'm going to take time to think on all of this, because I do see a problem. With no global warming is that the go-ahead to carry on rubbishing and polluting the planet, killing the soil, contaminating the environment. Because I'm afraid the average Joe Bloggs may just see it that way.:jaw:

Probably not the right thread, but related to the idea of earth changes, is the de-mineralizing, the de-naturing of our soils. This has meant a complete downgrading of the food we eat, hence the diseases associated with eating unhealthy food lacking in minerals and vitamins. I sort of lump together the argument against grobal warming with conservative, unprogressive farming and gardening methods using plenty of pesticides and fungicides.:(

Your comments please:nod::nod:

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Sorry about the silly stickies, just playing with them!!!!

[Cjay]

So, I have finally read the posts and listened to most of the videos, and I do understand that over all there is no global warming and that the carbon tax is another crock of shet to get people to hand over more money, more money!!!

BTW, you guys were very kind to me when I butted in on this discussion with no prior reading or understanding! I appreciate that!!

I'm going to take time to think on all of this, because I do see a problem. With no global warming is that the go-ahead to carry on rubbishing and polluting the planet, killing the soil, contaminating the environment. Because I'm afraid the average Joe Bloggs may just see it that way.:jaw:

Probably not the right thread, but related to the idea of earth changes, is the de-mineralizing, the de-naturing of our soils. This has meant a complete downgrading of the food we eat, hence the diseases associated with eating unhealthy food lacking in minerals and vitamins. I sort of lump together the argument against grobal warming with conservative, unprogressive farming and gardening methods using plenty of pesticides and fungicides.:(

Your comments please:nod::nod:

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Sorry about the silly stickies, just playing with them!!!!

One of the reasons this forum exists is to share ideas and spread the word. Most Avalonians do our best to respect others and listen to all points of view, even when we disagree. Carmen, we appreciate your appreciation of our patience, lol. We welcome your input, really. I apologise if we sometimes show our arrogance. We mean well and we are passionate about wanting to do what is right for the benefit of everyone. Group hug. It's still ok if we don't agree on everything. C'est la vie and viva la difference.

I strongly agree with you about the madness of destroying the planet. We care a lot about that. We just hate the lies and deception from governments and big business all over the world. You might be interested to read some of my posts (not just my posts but the threads they are in) about ways of repairing the soil and better ways of farming and gardening:
BIOCHAR http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2050-Gardening-organics-sustainable-gardening-food-crops-etc&p=187057&viewfull=1#post187057
PERMACULTURE http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2050-Gardening-organics-sustainable-gardening-food-crops-etc&p=187963&viewfull=1#post187963
FOOD FORESTING http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21565-Food-Foresting
and most people fail to see there is a very strong link to the controversial subject of
CANNABIS http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17640-Mother-Nature-as-our-Chemotherapy&p=190648&viewfull=1#post190648

I look forward to reading your comments about each in the appropriate threads and any other topics you might want to discuss. Welcome to the sandpit, Carmen.

[Cjay]

A little light-hearted reflection about climate change (click pictures to enlarge):

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[Cjay]

Climate change alarmist hypocrites


IT’S the lectures they give from the door of their jets that tell me the global warmists aren’t serious.

Take Simon Sheikh, the GetUp boss who helped to organise Sunday’s Say Yes rallies for a carbon dioxide tax.

“We say yes to a price on pollution and yes to clean energy investment,” he cried to the crowd in Sydney.

The Australian people must be forced to cut their emissions, Sheikh insisted, but by nightfall Sheikh himself was on a jet powered by unclean energy for a long and gassy flight to New York.

Or take Corinne Grant, the comedian.

She told the Melbourne rally we had to have the Gillard Government’s carbon dioxide tax, to cut the planet-killing “carbon pollution” we belch out by burning coal and petrol.

“We need to try and combat the scaremongering coming from our largest polluters,” she insisted.

But after the rally, she, too, was off on on a plane powered by pollution.

As she tweeted: “Right. I’m buggering off to France for ten weeks.”

And she wasn’t walking there.

and this...


That the noisiest alarmists cannot live the carbon-neutral lives they demand of everyone else actually tells us one of two valuable things.

Either these people don’t believe their wild claims either, or they do not believe the pain of cutting emissions is worth the tiny gain.

That's most of it but you can read the full story here:
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_a_lecture_on_emissions_from_the_lady_on_the_jet

[Arrowwind]

As a shortcut, for those interested, dig into a bloke by the name of 'Maurice Strong', his relationship with the 'Club of Rome' and their involvement in the first 'Earth Summit' and what is known as 'Agenda 21'...after that the dots all the way through to climategate fall into place pretty quickly!!

cheers

This absolutely says it all.

although I do think our climate is changing... it has always been changing. The US was in a mini Ice Age when Europeans first came here. This last few years we have had very cool weather in part of the country and heat waves in other parts with excessive water or snow fall and flooding in many parts.

The planet is a living breathing moving entity. Our greatest foolishness is believing that change will not come.... and this is why people suffer who build in flood plains and in forests that periodically burn and mountains and landscapes that rumble with quakes... and they all prohesize the end of the world but it is not.. it is just the mother moving about as she always has... the end of the world only lies in our own misconceptions of it.

[Cjay]

Melbourne Airport was closed due to a cloud of volcanic ash from the eruption of Puyehue volcano in Chile on June 4, nine days ago and after the ash cloud travelled more than 11,000 km across the Atlantic, Indian and Southern Oceans to reach Melbourne. While some flights have resumed, further airport closures and flight cancellations are possible. Most airports were also closed in Tasmania and New Zealand due to the ash cloud.


UPDATE 11.28am: A SECOND volcanic ash cloud could drift across southeastern Australia within the next two days, with the potential to cause further disruptions to airline schedules.

Thousands of passengers have been stranded around Australia and in New Zealand as a volcanic ash plume from a Chilean volcano forced the cancellations of hundreds of flights.

Supervising meteorologist at the Volcanic Ash Advisory Centre in Darwin, Gordon Jackson, said the cloud currently over Victoria and Tasmania would remain for the next 12 to 36 hours.

full report: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/volcanic-ash-triggers-aussie-air-travel-chaos-as-fog-delays-melbourne-flights/story-e6frf7jo-1226073975658


In terms of the effect on climate change, apart from the massive injection of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, "temperatures in Melbourne may be reduced by 1°C as a result of the ash over Victoria", the Herald Sun reported.

Mark Knight, Herald Sun cartoonist has a suggestion for Julia Gillard and her carbon tax protagonists.

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Lord Monckton is touring Australia again, with Dr David Evans and Jo Nova.

LORD MONCKTON TOUR
Bookings through Ticketek.

Phone 132 849 or go to http://www.ticketek.com.au
$25 per person

6th July 7.00pm Starlight Room, Wests New Lambton NSW
7th July 6.30pm Wesley Theatre, Sydney NSW
8th July 7.00pm North Sydney Leagues Club NSW
13th July 7.00pm Brisbane Broncos Leagues Club QLD
20th July 1.00pm German Club, 291 Dandenong Rd, Windsor VIC
20th July 7.00pm German Club, 291 Dandenong Rd, Windsor VIC


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a-A_keI5jA&feature=player_embedded

PS - I recommend to any of you who have'nt seen this man speak in person to pencil this one in your diary!

I met Lord Monkton personally in Noosa Queensland on his 1st sold-out tour. He is a man of Great Courage & Character and an excellent speaker.

You will be amazed at just how many like-minded Australians (Both Young & Old) saw through this Global Warming Scam right from the Get-Go!

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Prince Charles attacks 'climate deniers'

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The Australian - June 16, 2011

THE heir apparent to the British throne has called on Australian business leaders to ensure climate change deniers aren't allowed to further delay action to tackle dangerous global warming.

The Prince of Wales delivered a 10-minute pre-recorded video address to the 12th National Business Leaders Forum on Sustainable Development today.

"All the evidence shows that we are living in an increasingly unstable world," Prince Charles told industry figures gathered in Canberra.

"And yet we continue to test it to destruction and to allow the deniers of human-induced climate change to prevent vital action being taken."

Prince Charles said the world needed to take action today to avoid or at least mitigate the "catastrophes" of tomorrow.

It was possible to create wealth and jobs while at the same time safeguarding the natural environment, His Royal Highness said.

"The great many challenges we face as we strive to become truly sustainable can in fact be transformed into opportunity."

Prince Charles said it was increasingly apparent that responsible business behaviour was really just "enlightened self-interest".

"A company which operates to the highest standards, a company that cares about its people, its suppliers, its customers, its local community, and the viability of the natural environment, will over the long-term be a more profitable and sustainable firm," he said.

The business forum will hear from Prime Minister Julia Gillard later today.

Forum attendees include representatives from the National Australia Bank, Westpac, the Commonwealth Bank, Woodside, Fortescue Metals Group, IAG Insurance, Lend Lease, Virgin Australia and Telstra.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/news/prince-charles-attacks-climate-deniers/story-e6frg90f-1226076502653

PS - Message Old Charlie-Boy. Stay Out of Our Country and Our Business and you can Jam your Carbon Tax and Sustainabilty right where the Sun don't shine!!!