E.coli cucumber scare: Germany seeks source of outbreak

[Black Panther]

Germans have been warned not to eat cucumbers until tests identify the source of a deadly E.coli outbreak that has killed 10 and spread across Europe.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13592765

[christian]

They say it's because of spanish cucumbers that have been contaminated with the virus when some bio-fertilizer wasn't washed of the plants because of a lack of rain.

Reminds me of the swine flu hype...

[Gaia]

E. Coli… It’s not just for North America anymore... Nope, the unhygienic growing practices which go hand in hand with mass production have finally made their appearance on this side of the pond. I’m sure it’s not the first time but it’s bad enough with 10 people dead in Germany and thousands sick that people had to sit up and take notice. Tainted cucumbers from Spain are supposedly the culprit, but they’re not sure that this is the only source ( And of course it isn’t) It’s just the one that was spotted.

[Black Panther]

Dutch growers are suffering daily losses of millions of euros.

http://www.rnw.nl/africa/article/dutch-cucumbers-are-safe-germans-don%E2%80%99t-want-them

I don't know the real story, but it fits the agenda of TPTB. Destroying the benevolent farmers/ growers. They will say we are bound to eat more of Monsanto's genetically modified food.

[christian]

Obviously farmers suffer from that and people are afraid of vegetables in general now, both to some degree. I personally break that spell, enjoy salad every day.

During the swine flu season, when an elderly died and had a little cold just at that time it was counted as a swine flu death. I bet it's the same now.

[paul1972]

It's heartbreaking to see doctors not being able to cure the victims effectively

Using antibiotics and blood transfusions are their only weapons to fight this bacteria, as far as I know.

Hopefully people will start waking up and start using MMS or other alternatives.

Paul1972

[mondaze]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13626499
in the above news story, the WHO claim that the e-coli strain killing all these people in Germany is in fact a new strain, never before seen.... does this not get anyone's scooby senses going?

[John Parslow]

Hello Black Panther

For reference there are six cases reported this evening in the U.K. all just returned from Germany ...

Regards to all - be safe. JP :cool:

[conk]

Cucumbers are EVIL. We must irradiate them now in order to kill the bothersome life contained therein.

Seriously, wait for it. Just like almonds here in the US. 6 people out of millions that eat almonds became ill. The answer? Pasteurize and kill the nutrients in ALL almonds. Nevermind that 6 people can't even be measured statistically out of millions!!!

[heyokah]

The source of the outbreak remains unknown, though the majority of those affected either live in Germany – particularly in or around the northern city of Hamburg – or have travelled there recently.

So why blame it to raw vegetables? And then, why especially cucumbers ?
Are they too healthy maybe??

http://www.everynutrient.com/healthbenefitsofcucumbers.html

Oh, sure....let's irradiate them. Much safer !!:rolleyes:

[happyexpat]

Wash your vegetables! No matter what garden they come from!

What's that cliche... An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure? Hm.

[jackovesk]

Germans have been warned not to eat cucumbers until tests identify the source of a deadly E.coli outbreak that has killed 10 and spread across Europe.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13592765

Unfortunately both the German Govt. and the European Union could NOT give a Sh#t!

[mondaze]

just a thought... but as the swine flu epedemic failed to take off maybe a nicely engineered e-coli bacteria could become a virulent replacement.... i know i know, bloody conspiracy theorist!

[dan i el]

Us personnel stationed in Germany are advised to wash all veggies with bleach and water or white vinegar. The Robert Koch institute advises everyone in the country to avoid all salad, tomatoes and cucumbers for what could be months. Milk is out of bounds to if one is to follow the advice of the French NGO monitoring radiation levels emanating from Japan.

It reminds me a little of Henry kissofdeathinger's writings on the weaponisation of food from the 1970's.

Just need UG99 to show up now.

[Lettherebelight]

I understand the cucumbers were organically grown, which usually indicates that they were fed with fertilizers made from blood and bone. Does anyone have any information to a link between this and 'the new strain' of e Coli? This is a very nasty bug, not to be underestimated.

Yes, it could be a way of discrediting the value of organically grown produce...even making it appear 'dangerous'. How convenient for the Codex Alimentarius agenda.

[Rocky_Shorz]

when was the last time a new strain was found?


New E. coli strain hits Europe

The World Health Organization says the E. coli bacteria responsible for a deadly outbreak in Europe is a new strain that has never been seen before. (June 2) (The Associated Press) link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/new-e-coli-strain-hits-europe/2011/06/02/AGQ2YRHH_video.html)

[juliagulia55]

Problem: Poisonous vegetables
Reaction: Population frightened of poisonous vegetables
Solution: Make growing vegetables illegal and bring in GM foods

This has got PTB written all over it.

[KeepSeeingNumbers]

E.coli can be killed with phages(they are not so know because they are cheaper than antibiotics and the pharmaceutical companies didnt had the interest to promote them worldwide).anyway...i thing those lots of viruses are made by man....we are to many people on this planet..its all conspiracy.have a nice day

[Möbius]

I had the same thoughts. Modified vaccines are so Passe'. Why not create a new nasty bacteria that doesn't respond to the usual antibiotics, add a spoon full of scare mungering and hey presto we have a new super antibiotic miraculously created (and maybe tested) in under a week by some parmacuteutical company that can lobby the governments to stockpile vast quantaties........ I am sure I have heard this story before.....

Mobius


just a thought... but as the swine flu epedemic failed to take off maybe a nicely engineered e-coli bacteria could become a virulent replacement.... i know i know, bloody conspiracy theorist!

[daledo]

Maybe the new strain was released because Germany recently announced that it was going to stop using nuclear power. Maybe they were going to announce a better power source like an overunity device. Could also be a warning to Germany about something. Stop paying your taxes and barter for goods and services to stop funding new designer diseases and sicknesses that are made in a lab.

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IN VIVO BLOOD CLEARING DEVICE FOR ELIMINATING VIRUSES, PATHOGENS, MICROBES, BACTERIA, FUNGI AND PARASITES.
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[Bhusunda]

If this E.coli is a natural mutation or not, how it is handled in Germany is important:

1. Official government ministries and the media plunge on it and are spreading fear, all in the context of 'protecting' us.
2. People do not eat fresh food anymore, thereby weakening there immune system even further. Canned food is suddenly thought to be a blessing.
3. It diverts the attention of the political agenda in Germany and Europe. A welcome diversion from the approaching default of some EU countries (or further bail-outs) and the colossal amounts of money Germany is printing in this regard.

I think, this E.coli might be a test balloon.

Cheers,
Bhusunda

[astrid]

This whole thing - VERY FISHY.

Watch this space and see them roll out a "solution"

[Bhusunda]

This whole thing - VERY FISHY.

Watch this space and see them roll out a "solution"

Yeah, that looks really like a perfect "Problem, Reaction, Solution" scenario. Lets see what the "solution" will be.

[Rocky_Shorz]

this sounds bad...


Deadly E. coli mixes common toxin with rare "glue"

(Reuters) - Scientists probing the deadly E. coli strain in Europe are finding the bacteria combines a highly poisonous, but common, toxin with a rarely seen "glue" that binds it to a patient's intestines.

It may take months for the global team of researchers to fully understand the characteristics of the bacteria that has killed at least 17 people in Europe and sickened 1,500. But they fear this E. coli strain is the most toxic yet to hit a human population.

Most Escherichia coli or E. coli bacteria are harmless. The strain that is sickening people in Germany and other parts of Europe, known as 0104:H4, is part of a class of bacteria known as Shiga toxin-producing Escherichia coli, or STEC.

This class has the ability to stick to intestinal walls where it pumps out toxins, causing diarrhea and vomiting. In severe cases, it causes hemolytic uremic syndrome or HUS, attacking the kidneys and causing coma, seizure and stroke... link (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/02/us-ecoli-strain-idUSTRE7517MT20110602)

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now is everyone starting to understand why it is important to get started on vertical farming?

now all European food is going to quarantined, it is in Milk already passed through grains grass etc...


the News just announced Russia just banned all fresh foods from the affected areas, next livestock...

[witchy1]

This is warm blooded mammalian only bug (well......... it used to be when I was nursing) and it can ONLY come from one place - botties. Its also not communicable - so you can ONLY get it from eating these products. You wont get it from another person

Humans could not live with out e.coli - they convert Vit K for us in our intestines (well some of them anyway, some of them are not that friendly)

So its either in the water supply or effluent has gotten on it. Its easily tracked so not sure what they are doing, this should only have taken a couple of days to figure out the source!

They dont say if its in the food or on the outside tho, and thats a worry. My understanding is that it cannot live outside the warm body for exteded periods - around 8 hours and will double population in 20 mins (other useless information HIV lasts only seconds outside the body and others like some virus's will last a 100 of years)

Also great to see the establishment "trialling" new anti-biotics for this fresh strain of bug..... easy way to test new medicines. Doctors were experimenting with a new type of monoclonal antibodies drug, Eculizumab, which, while not officially approved, has been administered to 11 patients in a bid to save their lives.
"The infection source remains active and we have to reckon with a growing number of cases," Bahr said. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110531/ts ... sehealtheu (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110531/ts_afp/germanyspainfooddiseasehealtheu)


it appears e.coli is remarkably easy to re-engineer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli

They can tell the type of infestation for example in water by the type of e.coli is - like from cows or humans.
I also dont think its IN the veggies, I think its on the skin. If it is in the veg, then I would say for sure manipulation - they're doin it anyway, maybe some got loose.

........ Crucial experiments that illuminated the details of fundamental biological processes such as DNA replication, transcription, and translation were performed for the first time or with greatest success in E. coli. The bacterium is still a primary resource in many modern laboratories. Even research efforts that focus on other organisms, including humans or crop plants, often use E. coli extensively as a tool to facilitate cloning and DNA sequencing.

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/escherichi ... z1O0epgXbN (http://www.answers.com/topic/escherichia-coli#ixzz1O0epgXbN)

Alcohol will generally kill it - so drink lots with your salads. (NO - Im kidding)

[witchy1]

I just read on another forum that it has become communicable? (i.e. spreads person to person) Does anyone have an update please or a link

[astrid]

3 Cases Of Deadly European E Coli Detected In United States

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[witchy1]

I have a really bad feeling about this. If its not contained and is communicable - we may potentially have something similar to ebola. That is a haemorragic disease and spreads like fire. 99% fatal. Please everyone keep your eyes open on this.

I also struggle with the fact that they allegedly dont know where its come from.

They can get on top of these outbreaks within days (look at bird flu) something just does not add up if it is in fact e. coli

[astrid]

"How to protect yourself from e.coli

On the practical side, what can you do to protect yourself from e.coli contamination of vegetables? There are FOUR simple things you can do:

1) EAT LOCAL. Grow your own food and / or buy from local farmers' markets.

2) WASH YOUR VEGGIES. If you wash them well, even e.coli won't be a problem. The e.coli is only present in those veggies that aren't adequately washed.

3) TAKE PROBIOTICS. The more "friendly" bacteria you have in your gut, the less space there is for toxic e.coli to take hold. The secret truth about these infections -- that you're not being told -- is that virtually everyone infected with toxic e.coli is someone with compromised digestive flora. Taking probiotics gives you a buffer against invading nasties.

4) AVOID ANTIBIOTICS. Most antibiotics are prescribed to humans by clueless doctors who prescribe them for things like viral infections and asthma, none of which are treated in the least by antibiotics.

These four simple steps will protect nearly everyone from e.coli infections acquired through food. So why doesn't the mainstream media teach people these four simple steps? Because they're too busy blaming cucumbers, tomatoes and spinach, I guess. They're utterly ignorant of the simple dynamics of e.coli superbug mutation and propagation.

Food safety isn't rocket science, folks. It's simpler than you've been told. And it's based on the fundamental idea that you shouldn't raise cattle, hogs and chicken in dirty, inhumane conditions requiring a constant dose of chemical antibiotics just to keep them alive."

from here........

http://www.naturalnews.com/032590_ecoli_superbugs.html


ALSO.........

"Complete blackout of the obvious source of this new strain

The mainstream media is predictably pretending it has no idea where this new strain came from. They're all scratching their heads and just focusing on the "killer cucumbers" which is of course a particularly lame bit of disinfo.

Want to know where this e.coli really came from? The abuse of antibiotics in factory animal farms.

Factory animal farm operations, you see, raise cattle, pigs and chickens in such atrociously bad and dirty conditions that they have to pump them full of antibiotics just to avoid the rapid spread of infection. This constant dosing with antibiotics creates the perfect breeding ground for superbugs in the guts of these animals.

Then, these animals defecate and drop billions of e.coli bacteria with their stools which are then collected and used as crop fertilizers. So the crops are actually grown in this stuff that's contaminated with animal fecal matter containing antibiotics-induced superbugs.

The veggies grown in the e.coli fertilizer then get shipped to supermarkets, where people buy the produce and fail to wash it properly. Once they consume it, the e.coli goes to work in their own guts which are largely devoid of friendly flora because many people are also on antibiotics which wipe out their own intestinal flora, creating a perfect environment for food borne infection.

That's when people start dying, you see. It's all basic cause and effect.

So, you see, antibiotics play a double role in this tragedy: They're widely abused throughout the animal ranching industry, and they're also widely abused by doctors treating human patients. And yet the media is just strangely reluctant to print this obvious fact. They almost outright refuse to tell readers the truth: E.coli superbugs are an antibiotics problem, not a vegetable problem!"

[witchy1]

It sounds like they have NO antibiotics to fight this with - hence the use of trial drugs. Your advice is good Astrid.

From a few days ago...... Doctors were experimenting with a new type of monoclonal antibodies drug, Eculizumab, which, while not officially approved, has been administered to 11 patients in a bid to save their lives. "The infection source remains active and we have to reckon with a growing number of cases," Bahr said. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110531/ts ... sehealtheu (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110531/ts_afp/germanyspainfooddiseasehealtheu)

If it is communicable - we are playing in an entirely different league and if this is in fact correct - no amount of washing your veg will keep you safe. We really need to find this out and fast. Is it transferred via respiratory system (droplet, coughing etc where the next person breathes it in) or transferred by fomites - on surfaces ( table tops, chairs, money etc where we touch something and put our fingers in our mouths/eyes) You get the picture

Good greif they can grow this bug in 8 hours in a petrie dish - what are they doing

If it is already in another country contracted from within that country - (like could not have got it from travelling to Germany or Spain) there is real reason for concern. We should start to see no travel areas etc if this is the case watch for signs. It sounds reasonably fast moving at this stage anyway.

PS: Im not trying to be the harbinger of doom and gloom, just stressing the importance of watching out for it and doing what you can to keep yourselves safe as possible. Especially if you are in Europe.

[astrid]

I think this thread needs to be

:bump:

IMPORTANT.

[Black Panther]

I'm very thankful for all the posters to keep this thread alive.


Problem: Poisonous vegetables
Reaction: Population frightened of poisonous vegetables
Solution: Make growing vegetables illegal and bring in GM foods

This has got PTB written all over it.

I like mister Icke too :thumb:
It's very helpful to understand what's really happening (or happened in the 'past')

The whole thing reminds me of the movie 'Outbreak'.

[witchy1]

WHO confirms this is a new strain

new and more virulent strain of the E coli bacterium caused the outbreak that has killed 17 people and left more than 1,500 ill across Europe, the World Health Organisation has announced.

Hilde Kruse, a food safety expert at the WHO, told the Associated Press it was "a unique strain that has never been isolated from patients before ... [its characteristics] make it more virulent and toxin-producing".

According to the Health Protection Agency three British nationals have been infected as well as four Germans in the UK. All are believed to have caught it in Germany. Three are believed to have developed haemolytic uraemic syndrome, a rare and severe kidney complication that destroys red blood cells and can affect the central nervous system.

The HPA has said it is working with the Food Standards Agency and there is no evidence of suspect produce being distributed in the UK.

As the number of cases continues to rise , Russia has extended its ban on imports of raw vegetables from the European Union – a move condemned by Brussels as "disproportionate" – and Spain is threatening legal action over the initial attempt by Germany to blame the outbreak on imported Spanish organic cucumbers.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ju ... intcmp=239 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/02/e-coli-outbreak-who-bacterium-new-strain?intcmp=239)

[heyokah]

Scientists from the Beijing Genomics Institute in southern China said Thursday the new E.colistrain responsible for the outbreak carried genes that made it resistant to some antibiotics.

“This E.coli is a new strain of bacteria that is highly infectious and toxic,” said researchers from the Shenzhen-based centre who are collaborating with scientists in Germany.

The WHO confirmed the enterohaemorrhagic escherichia coli (EHEC) 0104:H4 strain had never been seen before in an outbreak situation, adding the body was waiting for more information from laboratories.

http://www.dagorret.net/2011/06/03/eurpea-union-who-confirms-new-strain-of-e-coli-is-dangerous/

[golden lady]

Possible Aspartame connection?
Aspartame is made from toxic waste could it be that in the production not all the bacteria was iradicated or a new strain of ecoli born!
This new outbreak seems to be affecting more women. Could it be that as more women tend to consume Aspartame laden products this is the reason?
Being a new mutant strain could also be the reason why it may be communicable.
However it has come to be this is defiantly one to keep an ever watchful eye on. Be alert
Love and peace

[witchy1]

Gotta admit Im leaning toward a bio-engineered thing. It looks like 2 different strains of e.coli brought together into one virulent strain.

These guys have been around for at least as long as us - and now, all of a sudden they have decided that they are in fact genetically compatible, quite fancy each other and decide to have babies - hmmmmm

I dont think so

[Arrowwind]

This outbreak will be contained as soon as they find the absolute source of contamination.

E-coli is not highly contageous from person to person and good handwashing is generally all that is required so you will not be seeing a "plague" of this disease... only those who came into direct contact with the pathogen on the food will be higly susceptible... the family members risk who did not eat the food is minimal, but of course not impossible to catch it from them.


Since microbes are ever changing according to the environmnet that they reside in we will be seeing more of this and it will continue as long as we feed antibiotics to cattle and chickens, etc. Antibiotics force microbes to change and in that change they can become more toxic for humans.

e-coli in general is not all that dangerous to people.. only these mutated varieties.. after all we all have e-coli in our gut and if normal e-coli could make us sick and die we would all be long dead. Ultimately antibiotic usage is the cause in ALL cases of toxic e-coli contamination.

this is a lesson for organic farmers... they should never use composting products from animals that have been fed antibiotics unless those composted products have been absolutely composted properly but facilities that assure all the materials reach 160 degrees throughout. STudies in the US show that all farms that use routine antibiotics in feed have animals that have resistant pathogens, even the people who care for the animals carry these pathogens and often are sickened by them or carry dangerous diease home to their families. The sloppy production of animal based compost can cause lots of problems if the animals are contaminated.

Now MRSA was first discovered in the UK in 1962 and they have been dealing with e-coli there for a long time.. Most cases are confined to the hospital of e-coli.. this issue with farms and gardens is more new but certainly not new, at least in the US. Many ranches in EU are significantly contaminated with MRSA and I just read the other day of a new and more deadly strain found in animals there... so beware EU!.... and this is why they want to irradiate all the meat products.

[Arrowwind]

It is certainly time to elicit the help of MMS1 and MMS2 and Grapefruit seed extract.

I would be washing, with full emersion of all veggies into a solution of MMS2

Intelligent people with a high E.Q. will be moving into right and sensible action, not fear.

[witchy1]

This outbreak will be contained as soon as they find the absolute source of contamination

Hi Arrow, not sure if you have read the whole thread, but the problem is that there is some conjecture that this strain is not acting like "normal" e.coli and has become communicable. WHO (if you can beleive them) have identified it as a "new" strain that combines 2 already known strains. It is being listed as epidemic on some sites. There is no confirmation that all victims have contracted it via eating these veg either - so they are not sure even how its spreading (droplet/ fomites etc)

I dont think anyone is fearful, but most are watchful. Its important for everyone to keep an eye out for developments and watch the spread. I know that the blood service here in Aust are keeping a VERY close watch on it, as Im sure most health professionals are.

It may all just go away without any further cases, however but the hospital in the above video in Germany have over 120 cases there and noting a 30 - 40% mortality rate. There are 3 new cases in the States and its in 5 EU countries

[Rocky_Shorz]

The Western Kansas Weather Modification Program has two main objectives: reduce the size of hail in storms and increase rainfall by seeding selected clouds in the absence of severe weather.

The program, which has been in existence for 34 years, operates from April until September and designed to protect as much cropland as possible.

With a budget of $550,000, the program is funded by the state and has eight participating counties: Greeley, Wichita, Gray, Scott, Lane, Hamilton, Kearny, Finney and Haskell. The counties pay the weather modification program 5.2 cents per acre of cropland and 2.2 cents per acre of rangeland. The program has planes based in Lakin, Syracuse, Scott City and Leoti.

For every dollar spent on the program, there's an economic benefit of $10 to $35 in the form of better crop yields. link (http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/25983404.html?storySection=story)


A hedge was needed against the weather events that drove energy demand, and the first instrument was structured in a transaction between Koch Industries Inc., and Enron Corp. based on a temperature index for Milwaukee in such a way that Enron would pay Koch each day the temperature fell below normal (per degree), while Koch would pay for every degree above normal on warmer days. Then in 1999, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange introduced exchange-traded weather futures and options on futures based on temperature indices. The market for providers of weather-related risk and information services is booming, and this growth will continue with the increasing volatility of local weather (widely agreed to be an effect of global climate change), and the reduced maneuverability of corporations following the credit crunch. link (http://www.ambienttv.net/content/?q=whoowns)

so how deep does Koch go into cloud seeding is the question and was this formula to replace the Thorium one?

[Siegfried The 7]

I wonder if this is a perfected strain from the bacteria that claimed the lives of many in Haiti.

You know TPTB like to "practice" in small controlled areas or on the people often forgot about.

Time to get ready for the GMO invasion. This just seems TOO obvious!

All so perfect that its a strand they've never seen before and they have no answers for stopping it.

This and many other things are starting to remind me of the tv show "The Event". There was some virus discovered in a man who was frozen in the ice caps(if i remembered correctly) and the virus was still alive in his lungs, so the aliens had the lungs removed so that they could set the virus free on the American population.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well I'm watching for an update from Fulford on this one...

[Wings]

It is certainly time to elicit the help of MMS1 and MMS2 and Grapefruit seed extract.

I would be washing, with full emersion of all veggies into a solution of MMS2

Intelligent people with a high E.Q. will be moving into right and sensible action, not fear.

Grapefruit seed extract SHOULD NOT be taken by people with high blood pressure. It interferes with some blood pressure medication.


"How to protect yourself from e.coli

3) TAKE PROBIOTICS. The more "friendly" bacteria you have in your gut, the less space there is for toxic e.coli to take hold. The secret truth about these infections -- that you're not being told -- is that virtually everyone infected with toxic e.coli is someone with compromised digestive flora. Taking probiotics gives you a buffer against invading nasties.

Thanks for your post Astrid. You give good advice. But, what did people do in the days prior to the dispensing of vitamins and supplements? Supplements are also expensive for some people.

Natural food sources of probiotics are yoghurt (natural and unsweetened) and fermented cabbage (sauerkraut). Don’t the Germans eat sauerkraut any more?

To promote growth of good bacteria you need prebiotics – FOS (fructo-oligo saccharides) and inulin – to selectively stimulate the growth of bifido bacteria (good gut bacteria). Natural food sources: artichokes, onion, garlic, banana, chicory, leeks, asparagus, olives, legumes.

If you have a good diet this will keep the digestive system functioning properly without the need for supplemental probiotics. How?

Digestive enzymes – help keep the gut free of bad bacteria. 2 such enzymes – papain (found in papaya) and bromelain (found in pineapple). Vinegar and lemon juice also help stimulate digestive enzymes (people with ulcers should be careful here though).

Fibre – keeps things moving in the intestinal tract and so reducing the possibility of fermentation, therefore preventing the growth of bad gut bacteria. Fibre is found in fruit and vegetables; cereal grains like oats, bran, brown rice etc.; seeds like linseeds and LSA mix etc. Quinoa a pseudo-cereal is fantastic – apart from the fact that it’s a complete protein and gluten free, it is also a good source of fibre and is high in magnesium (magnesium is needed to help intestinal movement).

Bitters – eating bitter foods helps the liver by stimulating bile flow. Reduced bile flow results in a slower transit time in digestive tract, leading to constipation which then leads to ‘fermentation’ and an overgrowth in bad gut bacteria. Food sources to stimulate bile: bitter leafy greens like radicchio, dandelion, chicory etc., olives and olive oil, artichokes. Some Europeans have an aperitif before their meal – aperitifs contain bitters which help to stimulate digestion before eating.

Lifestyle - regular exercise helps keep things moving in the gut; low stress likewise.

Sometimes it’s necessary for people to take antibiotics, in which case they should supplement with probiotics (taken at the other end of the day, NOT with the antibiotics).

It is very possible this E-Coli outbreak is linked to an animal. I would not be surprised if it’s a bird (bird manure).

[Maia Gabrial]

Hey conk,
I'll bet the reason why they smoke out the B17 in almonds is because it helps cure cancer....
People can't help thinking that there's something nefarious behind this latest scare. Deadly cucumbers....indeed!
I love cucumbers, too.
Maia

[Dennis Leahy]

I think a bunch of Avalon readers have their suspicions properly placed. This certainly appears to be an engineered/manufactured event, not a natural outbreak. Wash your food. Bless your food. No fear - just be vigilant.

Dennis

[K626]

Germany has one of the largest healthfood and bio food production markets in Europe..This is a strike against that for sure and some of us saw it coming. Germany alone has been resisting GM and so on...

cheers

K

[Lettherebelight]

It sounds like they have NO antibiotics to fight this with - hence the use of trial drugs. Your advice is good Astrid.
If it is communicable - we are playing in an entirely different league and if this is in fact correct - no amount of washing your veg will keep you safe. We really need to find this out and fast. Is it transferred via respiratory system (droplet, coughing etc where the next person breathes it in) or transferred by fomites - on surfaces ( table tops, chairs, money etc where we touch something and put our fingers in our mouths/eyes) You get the picture

Good greif they can grow this bug in 8 hours in a petrie dish - what are they doing

If it is already in another country contracted from within that country - (like could not have got it from travelling to Germany or Spain) there is real reason for concern. We should start to see no travel areas etc if this is the case watch for signs. It sounds reasonably fast moving at this stage anyway.

PS: Im not trying to be the harbinger of doom and gloom, just stressing the
importance of watching out for it and doing what you can to keep yourselves safe as possible. Especially if you are in Europe.

Hi Witchy, as we could probably have guessed by the rapid spread, it looks like it is communicable on some level. The strain has officially been labelled 'contagious', by major news sources in the UK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1393545/E-coli-outbreak-3-Americans-struck-contagious-mutant-strain-kills-18-Europe.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

BTW, Thanks for all the info you have been posting on this one, along with Astrid.
I agree 100% this is no joking matter.

[observer]

Scientists from the Beijing Genomics Institute in southern China said Thursday the new E.colistrain responsible for the outbreak carried genes that made it resistant to some antibiotics.

“This E.coli is a new strain of bacteria that is highly infectious and toxic,” said researchers from the Shenzhen-based centre who are collaborating with scientists in Germany. [....snip]



This collaboration with the Chinese has a chilling connotation, reminiscent of what Bill Ryan is saying in the 'Anglo Saxon Mission' material:
http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/anglo_saxon_mission_en.html
(Move timer over to 14:50)

[witchy1]

Scientific analysis has failed to show that contaminated vegetables are behind Europe's deadly E. coli (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/health/diseases/e-coli-infection.htm#r_src=ramp) outbreak, the EU's Reference Laboratory for E. coli in Rome said Friday.

"Alarmism over the consumption of vegetables is not justified ... since laboratory analyses do not support the hypothesis that contaminated vegetables were the source of the infection the laboratory said in a statement.

........The laboratory said the strain "cannot be considered mutant... but rather a strain originating from the acquisition of new genes."


The current outbreak has now spread to 12 countries but appears to be stabilizing, a senior German doctor said Friday, as the death toll rose to 19.





Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/06/03/scientists-no-proof-vegetables-are-behind-europes-e-coli-outbreak/#ixzz1OGT6wdAJ


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Although generally children and the elderly are most at risk of infection, investigators have also noted an unusually high number of adult women among the sufferers this year, leading to questions about whether the source is in a product marketed more heavily to women.
http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2011/05/26/deadly-e-coli-outbreak-alarms-germany/

[witchy1]

Hospitals in Germany have appealed to the public for more blood donations, as the number of new victims of E.coli rose to almost 100 a day.

The Robert Koch Institute, the main health body investigating the outbreak, said 18 people had been killed by the bug in Germany in the past two weeks. In addition, one person in Sweden has died and more than 1,800 others have been infected around the world. Four new cases were identified in the UK yesterday, bringing the total to 11 people being treated for the infection. All are from or have visited northern Germany, where experts are desperately working to find the source of the outbreak.

.......The Koch Institute said hospitals had registered 199 new E.coli infections in Germany since Wednesday and that in 50 of the cases, patients had developed the potentially lethal haemolytic-uraemic syndrome (HUS), a follow-on condition which damages the kidneys and nervous system

.....The bug has now also been identified in people in the Czech Republic, France and the United States, as well as Austria, Denmark, the Netherlands, Spain, and Switzerland.

......Professor Dag Harmsen of Münster University Clinic. "We think we will soon have collected enough data to establish what is making this clone so aggressive," he added. But officials said they still had no idea which food products were carrying the bacteria. The Robert Koch Institute has admitted that the food source "may never be known".

In northern Germany, where the epidemic is centred, there was no indication that the crisis was easing. In Hamburg, the city worst hit by the outbreak, the head of the blood donations service issued a fresh public appeal for donors. The city's Eppendorf University Clinic, where the bulk of victims are being treated, has been using blood transfusions to "wash" patients' systems clean of the bacteria. The clinic announced that its stocks were running low. "The stocks need to be replenished," said Lutz Schmidt, Hamburg's chief medical officer.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/ecoli-panic-grips-germany-while-britain-waits-nervously-2292889.html

ADDIT: Reports in the last 4 hours declare a stabilization. (well appears this comes from one Doctor anyway)

[Arrowwind]

All so perfect that its a strand they've never seen before and they have no answers for stopping it.

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this is not the only microbe around that they have no cure for. We really have been sitting on a time bomb for quite a while regarding the way animals are raised and fed antibiotics... these mutations can happen even without antibiotic use but with antibiotics much more frequently. We will be seeing more in the future as we already have in the past.

I just can't get on the bandwagon that this is a purposely engineered microbe and sent out to kill the masses.

I suspect mms 1 and mms2 will take care of it nicely.. the kidney failure thing it is doing is very typical to mutant e-coli infections.
MMS has a rep for reversing kidney failure.. which demonstrates that it really gets into all those tiny tubes in the kidneys and cleans them out.

One of the most potent probiotics out there is VSL#3 ... and if you make your own yogurt you can open a cap into it when you are mixing the culture into the milk. Your yogurt will be more potent.

[observer]

Dr. Len Horowitz has come forward with his interpretation of the E.coli outbreak on Coast to Coast radio:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wswQ0NISnaI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wswQ0NISnaI
(Move timer over to 10 minutes for the start of the interview)

Dr. Horowitz has had his finger on the pulse of emerging viruses for many years. He has been interviewed by Bill and Kerry in the past. This entire interview is well worth the listen. Dr. Horowitz ties many aspects of what is happening behind the smoke-and-mirrors together.

Footnote: Thank you to Helvetic for alerting the members to this interview.

[blufire]

I have been following and studying the GMO and bio engineering of food many years now.

Simply put . . . potent and virulent strains of viruses and bacteria are used to “introduce” mutated genetic material. It is how new strains of genetically altered foods, medicines and even animals are artificially created.

Plants that mature quickly so the genetically altered seed can be harvested are routinely used. Many times the “malfunction” of the altered plant does not show up for many generations of growth, harvest and replanting of mutated seed.

Different strains and bio-engineered strains of E.coli bacteria are used routinely as “transporters”. Bacteria and especially viruses are highly resilient and thrive and will always find a way to survive.

These reports of E.coli and other viruses and bacteria are simply genetically and bio-engineered “transporters gone wild”.

Trans-mutated genes have only begun to make their appearance.

[Bhusunda]

Thanks to observer for the link to the Coast to Coast interview. Very enlightening!
I ordered MMS today. Who knows, maybe I need it when I am paying a visit to Germany next week.

Today, the main press in Germany spins mostly around a hint, that some of the affected (17 to be exact) have all been eating in the same restaurant. But, of course, they couldn't find any trace of E.coli there. So the press is basically trying to give the impression of a feverish search for the origin, trying not to focus on more obvious answers.

A map with the number of infections in germany as of today can be found in this article:
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/weltgeschehen/article13411110/Zwei-toedliche-Keime-miteinander-vereinigt.html
It can be clearly seen here, that the center is in North Germany, particularly in the city state of Hamburg and the state Schleswig-Holstein north of Hamburg. (Dark Red in color)

One source in the alternative media, "Kopp Verlag", adds an interesting new view.
Namely, that there is a biological laboratory of the german army south of the town of Hamburg, the "Wehrwissenschaftliches Institut für Schutztechnologien (WIS)" ('Scientific Army-Institute for Protection Technologies'). The official objective of this institute is to find counter-measures against ABC-attacks (atomic, biological, chemical) on Germany. By law we are not allowed to produce any bio-weapons for offensive purposes. But of course, they have to experiment with bacteria for this.
The article points out, as blufire already mentioned, that experimentation with E.coli is very common. So there is also the possibility that this is an an outbreak or forced leakage from this laboratory, something like a Biological-Fukushima on german soil.
That Ehec contains 93 % of the DNA of an african type of E.coli that is known to cause severe diarrhea points also into this direction. Now, the author claims to have received information that this institute was experimenting with exactly that type of E.coli.
The author claims that his information is coming directly from involved researchers and he points out that the region south of Hamburg and around this institute is known for growing a lot of vegetables.
This website is usually quite well informed.

Source: (sorry, only in german)
http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/deutschland/udo-ulfkotte/ehec-raetsel-geloest-informationen-ueber-ein-geheimes-b-waffen-forschungsprojekt-der-bundeswehr.html

Stay healthy,
Bhusunda

[Rocky_Shorz]

can you tell me what this is talking of and how it ties together with Koch?

Robert Koch Institute (http://www.bevoelkerungsschutz.de/SharedDocs/InterneLinks/Handbuch/Med__Versorgung,templateId=raw,property=publicationFile.pdf/Med_Versorgung.pdf)



According to official governmental information, no outdoor studies with aerosols were performed in recent years. The CBMs from 1994 to 1998 failed to address the question of outdoor aerosol studies at the SanAk, but it appears to be very unlikely that this omission is an indication that such studies were carried out in these years. The locations at the SanAk are not really suitable for outdoor aerosol studies, and any such study in Germany would be much more likely to be conducted at the WIS in Munster, which, however, stated in all CBMs submitted so far that no such outdoor aerosol studies have been conducted (see below).link (http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:d5vFnL-GI1oJ:www.sunshine-project.de/infos/Laenderstudien/German_BW_Report.pdf+Wehrwissenschaftliches+Institut+f%C3%BCr+Schutztechnologien+Koch+e+coli+weapon&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShSpFdBMVbwHvPbtLMtCQvsqYOi1QJqpcWDKqDkzsy9nbHpLMnsG5LFOOxaBepM4yjIKSJhMywV44EIFBb-rKE30kbDZzUAdQViRaD7ycHmzBpS6NzkodXvo0l_ODky3M5TFuq_&sig=AHIEtbTOczT1hQAbocFQ-3pmnGBxkIt71Q)

[Bhusunda]

can you tell me what this is talking of and how it ties together with Koch?

Robert Koch Institute (http://www.bevoelkerungsschutz.de/SharedDocs/InterneLinks/Handbuch/Med__Versorgung,templateId=raw,property=publicationFile.pdf/Med_Versorgung.pdf)

This is an official publication from the german government, the "Bundesamt für Bevölkerungsschutz und Katastrophenhilfe" ('Office for Civil-Protection and Catastrophy-Help'). It is produced in conjunction with the "Robert-Koch-Institute" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Koch_Institute, (named after the physician 'Robert Koch' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Koch) an institute of the german government with the aim of disease control and prevention.

This manual is called "Biologische Gefahren II, Entscheidungshilfen zu medizinisch angemessenen Vorgehensweisen in einer B-Gefahrenlage which means:
'Biological Threats II, Decision-Finding-Help for adequate medicinal course of actions in case of biological threats'
This manual is from a website of the german government called "Bevölkerungsschutz" which means 'Population protection'.

I didn't have time to read it now, but according to the table of contents it deals with:
How to handle single patients with high contagious diseases
How to handle many patients with high contagious diseases
How to handle patients in a massive outbreak of high contagious diseases
Course of action in case of an unknown germ/virus

And then follow several chapters how to handle some specific well known contagious diseases like anthrax, pest, pox and others.

I will read the chapter about the 'Course of action in case of an unknown germ/virus' and let you know what it contains.

[Bhusunda]

A very interesting read this publication. Thanks Rocky_Schorz!
Biologische Gefahren II (http://www.bevoelkerungsschutz.de/SharedDocs/InterneLinks/Handbuch/Med__Versorgung,templateId=raw,property=publicationFile.pdf/Med_Versorgung.pdf) are the chapters which set up a categorization of seriousness:
Bear in mind that this guide is focussing on the medicinal professions to give them help what to do in case they run out of capacities. I am extracting only the course of action for contagious diseases here.

Stage 1: "Einzelne Betroffene" (some affected)
In case there are only few infections it is classified as "Einzelne Betroffene" (some affected) and no special rules apply. They will be treated in hospitals which are specialized on that.

Stage 2 "Viele Betroffene" (Many affected)
In case there are so many infections that the 'special beds' for contagious diseases in hospitals are not sufficient anymore for an 'optimal individual medicinal treatment' and that all measures to increase the capacitiy (adding beds, changing shift-plans) have been taken already, the outbreak is classified as "Viele Betroffene" (Many affected). This has an effect that not in every case a full diagnostic is necessary anymore, its enough to show the symptoms to be treated. Also temporary capacities for isolation and treatment can be created in auxiliary rooms/facilities. Every hospital is supposed to have a plans for such an emergency. It is acknowledged that this can lead to high logistical problems. All other patients have to be separated at all times from the contagious patients. Some distinctions are made due to the way of infection (air, non-air)

Stage 3 "Massenhaft Betroffene" (Masses affected)
This category applies as soon as there are so many infected that the treatment-capacity and common bed-capacity of all hospitals in whole Germany is exceeded. This section is very general and states mainly that the health of non infected people has to be preserved as good as possible. All notes from Stage 2 apply here too. Main concern is separation of sick and non sick. All contact persons of infected person have to be quarantined. Use of auxiliary facilities. They are mentioning that it might be advisable to reserve only a few hospitals for normal sick people and convert all others solely for the treatment of this outbreak.

Chapter 3 then carries a very interesting title:
"Vorgehen in der Situation unbekannter Erreger/BT-Verdachtsfall"
which translates as:
"Course of action in case of an unknown germ/suspected bio-technological case"
Firs step is of course to identify the germ and its source as quickly as possible.
Regarding the medicinal consequences they differentiate between

Obvious Bio-Attack
Outbreak of acute infectious diseases in a small time period without political context
Slow outbreak of an infectious disease/anomalous disease without political context

For all this scenarios it has to be found out, how this germ has been spread.
Then they differentiate according to spread:

Local in closed buildings
Local in open places and buildings
Multi-local in open places and buildings
Large area spread

Then they categorize the B-candidates that had contact with sick persons according to the nature of their contact. (4 categories)

Basis for the course of action is a law called "Infektionsschutz-Gesetz (IfSG)" (Law for Infection-Protection). Every physicist, veterinarian, any healing-professional, any captain of a ship or plane, any head of foster/car home, has to report any cases immediately.
The Health ministry, the forces ('Bundeswehr') and the foreign ministry and are informed. The local Health offices are in charge locally for all the coordination.
Then details follow what kind of information has to be gathered, the diagnostic procedure, gathering of samples for analysis and regulations for dispatch of this samples.

Here I stopped reading.

This is obviously focussing on the medicinal professions. At several places though they are referring to the first volume "Biologische Gefahren I" which seems to be more interesting. It contains such chapters as 'Public order and logistics in biological cases', 'Civil-Military cooperation' or 'Mass-psychological considerations'.

I will have a read of that this weekend and let you know what it contains.
http://www.bevoelkerungsschutz.de/cln_090/SharedDocs/InterneLinks/Handbuch/3__Auflage,templateId=raw,property=publicationFile.pdf/3_Auflage.pdf

[Rocky_Shorz]

A map with the number of infections in germany as of today can be found in this article:
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/weltgeschehen/article13411110/Zwei-toedliche-Keime-miteinander-vereinigt.html
It can be clearly seen here, that the center is in North Germany, particularly in the city state of Hamburg and the state Schleswig-Holstein north of Hamburg. (Dark Red in color)

One source in the alternative media, "Kopp Verlag", adds an interesting new view.
Namely, that there is a biological laboratory of the german army south of the town of Hamburg, the "Wehrwissenschaftliches Institut für Schutztechnologien (WIS)" ('Scientific Army-Institute for Protection Technologies'). The official objective of this institute is to find counter-measures against ABC-attacks (atomic, biological, chemical) on Germany. By law we are not allowed to produce any bio-weapons for offensive purposes. But of course, they have to experiment with bacteria for this.
The article points out, as blufire already mentioned, that experimentation with E.coli is very common. So there is also the possibility that this is an an outbreak or forced leakage from this laboratory, something like a Biological-Fukushima on german soil.
That Ehec contains 93 % of the DNA of an african type of E.coli that is known to cause severe diarrhea points also into this direction. Now, the author claims to have received information that this institute was experimenting with exactly that type of E.coli.
The author claims that his information is coming directly from involved researchers and he points out that the region south of Hamburg and around this institute is known for growing a lot of vegetables.
This website is usually quite well informed.

Source: (sorry, only in german)
http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/deutschland/udo-ulfkotte/ehec-raetsel-geloest-informationen-ueber-ein-geheimes-b-waffen-forschungsprojekt-der-bundeswehr.html

Stay healthy,
Bhusunda

Friend of Gaddafi who lost a close friend or family to a NATO strike? does this lab have international students? could samples of the exact e coli released be missing...

looks like government didn't have a clue...

[Czarek]

Maybe the new strain was released because Germany recently announced that it was going to stop using nuclear power. Maybe they were going to announce a better power source like an overunity device. Could also be a warning to Germany about something. Stop paying your taxes and barter for goods and services to stop funding new designer diseases and sicknesses that are made in a lab.

Blood electrificationrom device by Robert C. Beck
IN VIVO BLOOD CLEARING DEVICE FOR ELIMINATING VIRUSES, PATHOGENS, MICROBES, BACTERIA, FUNGI AND PARASITES.
http://teslatech.com/beck/index.htm#Part1PAGE03

I couldn't agree more with you daledo. What's also strange about this outbreak is that fact that you have multiple locations and not one.

[Bhusunda]

The main-stream press is mainly focussing on a new clue. A lot of people with EHEC seem to have eaten sprouts. The main sprout manufacturer has been closed down and they are investigating now. An official result if the sprouts are contaminated will be expected tomorrow.
The minister of agriculture of the state of Lower Saxonia (south of Hamburg) is sure already that they have found the source of it.
If this proves to be right and the contamination ceases, my first suspicion might have been right, a kind of test ballon or secret field test.

[Carmody]

Dutch growers are suffering daily losses of millions of euros.

http://www.rnw.nl/africa/article/dutch-cucumbers-are-safe-germans-don%E2%80%99t-want-them

I don't know the real story, but it fits the agenda of TPTB. Destroying the benevolent farmers/ growers. They will say we are bound to eat more of Monsanto's genetically modified food.

my preference was always for the Indian citizen's answer to Monsanto.

They burned the seed stock and the existing fields ,IIRC. More than once.

Now, the Indian military enforces Monsanto agendas in India, IIRC.

http://www.greens.org/s-r/19/19-19.html

[nomadguy]

another attack on the legumes, its a good idea to always cook your beans

[Wings]

The Washington Post: Germany awaiting test results on sprouts in E. coli outbreak that killed 22

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/germany-awaiting-test-results-on-sprouts-in-e-coli-outbreak-that-killed-22/2011/06/06/AGg1g3JH_story.html

CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/06/06/europe.e.coli/

[alphacentaura]

Seems like food my be joining the long list of bioweapons or at very minimum an instrument to be used by the big players, Big Pharma, GMO producers etc to muscle their agenda.

Some excellent research from Mike Adams of Natural News here:


Forensic evidence emerges that European e.coli superbug was bioengineered to produce human fatalities

Even as the veggie blame game is now under way across the EU, where a super resistant strain of e.coli is sickening patients and filling hospitals in Germany, virtually no one is talking about how e.coli could have magically become resistant to eight different classes of antibiotic drugs and then suddenly appeared in the food supply.

This particular e.coli variation is a member of the O104 strain, and O104 strains are almost never (normally) resistant to antibiotics. In order for them to acquire this resistance, they must be repeatedly exposed to antibiotics in order to provide the "mutation pressure" that nudges them toward complete drug immunity.

So if you're curious about the origins of such a strain, you can essentially reverse engineer the genetic code of the e.coli and determine fairly accurately which antibiotics it was exposed to during its development. This step has now been done (see below), and when you look at the genetic decoding of this O104 strain now threatening food consumers across the EU, a fasci

..................

Food as weapons of war - created by Big Pharma?

By the way, the most likely explanation of where this strain of e.coli was bioengineered is that the drug giants came up with it in their own labs. Who else has access to all the antibiotics and equipment needed to manage the targeted mutations of potentially thousands of e.coli colonies? The drug companies are uniquely positioned to both carry out this plot and profit from it. In other words, they have the means and the motive to engage in precisely such actions.

......................

A new era has begun: Bioweapons in your food

But in either case -- no matter what you believe -- the simple truth is that the world is now facing a new era of global superbug strains of bacteria that can't be treated with any known pharmaceutical. They can all, of course, be readily killed with colloidal silver, which is exactly why the FDA and world health regulators have viciously attacked colloidal silver companies all these years: They can't have the public getting its hands on natural antibiotics that really work, you see. That would defeat the whole purpose of making everybody sick in the first place.

In fact, these strains of e.coli superbugs can be quite readily treated with a combination of natural full-spectrum antibiotics from plants such as garlic, ginger, onions and medicinal herbs. On top of that, probiotics can help balance the flora of the digestive tract and "crowd out" the deadly e.coli that might happen by. A healthy immune system and well-functioning digestive tract can fight off an e.coli superbug infection, but that's yet another fact the medical community doesn't want you to know. They much prefer you to remain a helpless victim lying in the hospital, waiting to die, with no options available to you. That's "modern medicine" for ya. They cause the problems that they claim to treat, and then they won't even treat you with anything that works in the first place.

Nearly all the deaths now attributable to this e.coli outbreak are easily and readily avoidable. These are deaths of ignorance. But even more, they may also be deaths from a new era of food-based bioweapons unleashed by either a group of mad scientists or an agenda-driven institution that has declared war on the human population.

Full Article (http://www.naturalnews.com/032622_ecoli_bioengineering.html)

[blufire]

Cooking Genetically Mutated Food does not help in changing or altering the mutated factors in anyway.

Blaming this outbreak on "sprouting" is a ruse.

Think people . . . . how many times over the last several years have these outbreaks happened without a clear answer as to the source. Eventually this story as all the others will just fade away into the next sensational stupidity. We are being inoculated and slowly poisoned

Grow your own food
Grow your own food
Grow your own food

OR find a organic farmer AND SUPPORT THEM!!!


another attack on the legumes, its a good idea to always cook your beans

[Bhusunda]

The first 23 samples of sprouts that have been analyzed in the Robert-Koch-Institute (RKI) proved to be negative today. No trace of EHEC was found in them.
The RKI also reports that the slightly reduced number of new reported cases let them assume, that spread is on a slight decline.
http://www.rki.de/

Other newspapers report that the danger from possible EHEC on sprouts is known at least since 2010 and that sprouts are known to be 'highly dangerous' as they are grown at very warm temperatures in water vapor.
(I'd like to comment, get a stash of the seeds before they are forbidden!)

The warning to avoid eating salad, cucumbers, tomatoes and sprouts remains in place.

The director of the hospital Charité in Berlin criticized, that they received the questionary for the patients (in order to find out the source of the contamination) last week. (Thats 3 weeks after the outbreak, or 2 weeks after the rise in cases became knowledgable.) He also says that it is not transparent what the RKI is actually doing.

The Czech agricultural minister complains that it takes up to 5 days to receive any informations from Germany about the outbreak.

The Ehec-crisis is subject of a special meeting of the EU on Tuesday. The ministers for agriculture and food safety of the 27 countries of the EU will come together in Luxemburg. The meeting was initially supposed to take place on the 17th of June but was apparently moved to this week due to the seriousness of this outbreak.

Still no mentioning of the possibility of a fabricated germ/attack in the 'established' media. Whereas it is a common theme in blogs and alternative news sites.

What puzzles me: Except small voices from local politicians for more regulation, there is no major sign yet from the government of a 'solution'. Looks like this really has been an attack or a warning.

[Bhusunda]

AP coverage in english
US expert calls german investigation "a disaster":
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_CONTAMINATED_VEGETABLES_EUROPE

[Bhusunda]

While the german government is still in denial, the british government has warned supermarkets of biological attacks:

Terrorists 'could lace British food with poison': Government's terrifying warning to supermarkets
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394470/Terrorists-lace-UK-food-poison-Governments-warning-supermarkets.html

[christian]

Of course only healthy foods are under attack, to poison McDonald's is pretty much an oxymoron.

[stegosaur]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13626499
in the above news story, the WHO claim that the e-coli strain killing all these people in Germany is in fact a new strain, never before seen.... does this not get anyone's scooby senses going?

It has mine way up. Especially in conjunction with the appearance in Germany - which according to some researchers is the common location all secret societies can be traced back to.

[Rocky_Shorz]

now they decided it is bean sprouts...

what does everyone think of this?


a year's treatment costs more than US$400,000. But just this week a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine reported successful use of the drug in treating three patients with HUS1.

The drug's manufacturer, Alexion, is now providing eculizumab free of charge in Germany, taking advantage of an unexpectedly large cohort of patients that might help to speed the drug's approval for the treatment of HUS...

[Rocky_Shorz]

tomorrow?


Alexion to Present at the Goldman Sachs 32nd Annual Global Healthcare Conference

CHESHIRE, Conn. — Alexion Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (Nasdaq: ALXN) today announced that Dr. Leonard Bell, Chief Executive Officer of Alexion Pharmaceuticals, will present at the Goldman Sachs 32nd Annual Healthcare Conference in Rancho Palos Verdes, California at 1:30 p.m. Pacific (4:30 p.m. Eastern) on Tuesday, June 7, 2011.

link (http://www.centredaily.com/2011/05/31/2745629/alexion-to-present-at-the-goldman.html)

it's stock plunged 60% in May, anyone think it would be a good time to buy?

[observer]

Seems like food my be joining the long list of bioweapons or at very minimum an instrument to be used by the big players, Big Pharma, GMO producers etc to muscle their agenda. [....snip]


It has long been understood by the natural foods alternative community that food would eventually be used as a weapon.

Dr. Rima Laibow, in a video presentation several years old, documented how Fritz derMeer, the president of I.G. Farben during the Second World War, designed a program of how to use food as a weapon, and then sold the plan to the United Nation's, World Trade Organization. He dreamed-up this plan while he was serving prison time for crimes against humanity that he was personally found responsible for at the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials.

The documentation for this is in the first five minutes of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpY7rRdNBRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpY7rRdNBRY

Additionally, Dr. Len Horowitz clearly indicates this virus "started in Africa" and than migrated to Germany. Dr. Horowitz has had his finger on the pulse of emerging viruses for the best part of five years, as I am aware. (possibly much longer). I wouldn't doubt that the 'field test' was conducted in Africa first, and than the action taken into Germany. This is a reoccurring 'template' for a good number of 'manufactured diseases'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wswQ0NISnaI
(move timer over to 10:00 minutes for the start of the interview)

[Blacklight43]

http://www.naturalnews.com/032622_ecoli_bioengineering.html

It looks like they found the proof here!

[Rocky_Shorz]

wow from your link...


The genetic code reveals the history
When scientists at Germany's Robert Koch Institute decoded the genetic makeup of the O104 strain, they found it to be resistant to all the following classes and combinations of antibiotics:

• penicillins
• tetracycline
• nalidixic acid
• trimethoprim-sulfamethoxazol
• cephalosporins
• amoxicillin / clavulanic acid
• piperacillin-sulbactam
• piperacillin-tazobactam

In addition, this O104 strain posses an ability to produce special enzymes that give it what might be called "bacteria superpowers" known technically as ESBLs:

"Extended-Spectrum Beta-Lactamases (ESBLs) are enzymes that can be produced by bacteria making them resistant to cephalosporins e.g. cefuroxime, cefotaxime and ceftazidime - which are the most widely used antibiotics in many hospitals," explains the Health Protection Agency in the UK (http://www.hpa.org.uk/Topics/Infect...).

On top of that, this O104 strain possesses two genes -- TEM-1 and CTX-M-15 -- that "have been making doctors shudder since the 1990s," reports The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentis...). And why do they make doctors shudder? Because they're so deadly that many people infected with such bacteria experience critical organ failure and simply die.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Farmer says can't be...


BIENENBUETTEL, Germany (Reuters) – The head of a German farm facing an inquiry over a deadly E.coli outbreak was quoted on Monday as saying he could not understand accusations that bean sprouts grown at his farm could be to blame.

Klaus Verbeck, managing director of the "Gaertnerhof Bienenbuettel," told the Neue Osnabruecker Zeitung that no fertilizers are used to produce his bean sprouts and that there are no animals on his organic farm.

German officials said on Sunday his bean sprouts could be behind an E.coli outbreak that has killed 22 and made more than 2,200 people ill across Europe. The farm has been shut, produce recalled and further test results are due on Monday.

"I can't understand how the processes we have here and the accusations could possibly fit together," Verbeck told the paper. "The salad sprouts are grown only from seeds and water, and they aren't fertilized at all. There aren't any animal fertilizers used in other areas on the farm either."

Neither Verbeck, himself a vegetarian, nor anyone else from the farm would talk on Monday to journalists and television crews, including Reuters, outside his farm in the rural town of 6,600 that is located about 70 km (40 miles) south of Hamburg.

German officials, under intense pressure to identify the source of the E.coli outbreak, have warned consumers for weeks to avoid tomatoes, cucumbers and lettuce, and at one stage said Spanish cucumbers might be the source of the outbreak. The rare E.coli strain has killed 21 Germans and one Swede... link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110606/ts_nm/us_ecoli)

[christian]

Dr. Len Horowitz clearly indicates this virus "started in Africa" and than migrated to Germany. Dr. Horowitz has had his finger on the pulse of emerging viruses for the best part of five years, as I am aware. (possibly much longer). I wouldn't doubt that the 'field test' was conducted in Africa first, and than the action taken into Germany. This is a reoccurring 'template' for a good number of 'manufactured diseases'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wswQ0NISnaI
(move timer over to 10:00 minutes for the start of the interview)

This interview is not available in Germany, because it allegedly contains content of UMG. How convenient. Luckily I know www.hidemyass.com

[Spirithorse]

http://www.naturalnews.com/032622_ecoli_bioengineering.html

It looks like they found the proof here!
Hi Blacklight,
I was just about to post that same link when I noticed you'd already done that,
thank you.

[Rocky_Shorz]

now they are saying it isn't the sprouts...


BERLIN – In their second major retraction in a week, German officials said initial tests provided no evidence that sprouts from an organic farm in northern Germany were the cause of the deadly E. coli outbreak. One U.S. expert called the German investigation "a disaster."

The surprise U-turn came only a day after the same state agency, Lower Saxony's agriculture ministry, held a news conference to announce that sprouts from the organic Gaertnerhof farm in the northern village of Bienenbuettel were suspected to be the cause of the outbreak. The ministry shut down the farm, recalled all its produce and sent an alert urging Germans not to eat any more sprouts.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/06/06/tests-to-determine-if-sprouts-are-to-blame-for-killer-e-coli-outbreak/#ixzz1OXzAqfqK

[oceanz]

First cucumbers, then sprouts - it is only to scare people to not eat food such as fruit and vegetables unless it is packaged like packaged food sprinkled with sodium, perservatives and the likes.

It will no doubtly result in GM modification seeds to be disease/virus resistant and will bring into effect the laws that are already in exisitance about growing your own food that it could potentially contaminate yourself and others.

To the average person they will equate this with:

Natural food = bad and Processed food = good.

For the farmers, in will be the nail in the coffin to push them onto GM seeds because it will only be a matter of time when using heriloom seeds could be seen as an act of terrorism...

[Cigan Mojia]

Seeing as how we are yet again discussing food safety I was wondering if anyone has heard/seen further reports about the S510 Bill which was of great consideration some time ago... Last Action:
"Nov 30, 2010: Passed Senate with an amendment by Yea-Nay Vote. 73 - 25. Record Vote Number: 257 http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-510


Many thanks to Astrid and others for information on how NOT to suffer the consequence of food poisoning, I also think this topic is more important than the amount of attention it has received.


Astrid:
On the practical side, what can you do to protect yourself from e.coli contamination of vegetables? There are FOUR simple things you can do:

1) EAT LOCAL. Grow your own food and / or buy from local farmers' markets.

2) WASH YOUR VEGGIES. If you wash them well, even e.coli won't be a problem. The e.coli is only present in those veggies that aren't adequately washed.

3) TAKE PROBIOTICS. The more "friendly" bacteria you have in your gut, the less space there is for toxic e.coli to take hold. The secret truth about these infections -- that you're not being told -- is that virtually everyone infected with toxic e.coli is someone with compromised digestive flora. Taking probiotics gives you a buffer against invading nasties.

4) AVOID ANTIBIOTICS. Most antibiotics are prescribed to humans by clueless doctors who prescribe them for things like viral infections and asthma, none of which are treated in the least by antibiotics.

Wings:
Natural food sources of probiotics are yoghurt (natural and unsweetened) and fermented cabbage (sauerkraut). Don’t the Germans eat sauerkraut any more?

To promote growth of good bacteria you need prebiotics – FOS (fructo-oligo saccharides) and inulin – to selectively stimulate the growth of bifido bacteria (good gut bacteria). Natural food sources: artichokes, onion, garlic, banana, chicory, leeks, asparagus, olives, legumes.

If you have a good diet this will keep the digestive system functioning properly without the need for supplemental probiotics. How?

Digestive enzymes – help keep the gut free of bad bacteria. 2 such enzymes – papain (found in papaya) and bromelain (found in pineapple). Vinegar and lemon juice also help stimulate digestive enzymes (people with ulcers should be careful here though).

Fibre – keeps things moving in the intestinal tract and so reducing the possibility of fermentation, therefore preventing the growth of bad gut bacteria. Fibre is found in fruit and vegetables; cereal grains like oats, bran, brown rice etc.; seeds like linseeds and LSA mix etc. Quinoa a pseudo-cereal is fantastic – apart from the fact that it’s a complete protein and gluten free, it is also a good source of fibre and is high in magnesium (magnesium is needed to help intestinal movement).

Bitters – eating bitter foods helps the liver by stimulating bile flow. Reduced bile flow results in a slower transit time in digestive tract, leading to constipation which then leads to ‘fermentation’ and an overgrowth in bad gut bacteria. Food sources to stimulate bile: bitter leafy greens like radicchio, dandelion, chicory etc., olives and olive oil, artichokes. Some Europeans have an aperitif before their meal – aperitifs contain bitters which help to stimulate digestion before eating.

Lifestyle - regular exercise helps keep things moving in the gut; low stress likewise.

Sometimes it’s necessary for people to take antibiotics, in which case they should supplement with probiotics (taken at the other end of the day, NOT with the antibiotics).

Blufire:
Grow your own food
Grow your own food
Grow your own food

OR find a organic farmer AND SUPPORT THEM!!!

[Shocking Display]

News update. E.coli showsforensic evidence of it being genetically engineered.

http://www.naturalnews.com/032622_ecoli_bioengineering.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtdeaJ-BssE

[christian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtdeaJ-BssE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPDx2m_YVdI

[Wings]

now they decided it is bean sprouts...

what does everyone think of this?


a year's treatment costs more than US$400,000. But just this week a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine reported successful use of the drug in treating three patients with HUS1.

The drug's manufacturer, Alexion, is now providing eculizumab free of charge in Germany, taking advantage of an unexpectedly large cohort of patients that might help to speed the drug's approval for the treatment of HUS...

Uhmmm that company has lucky stars? .... just coincidence? .... or option 3?
It's interesting. There is a lunar eclipse coming up on the 15th June (we just had a solar on the 1st) .... we may possibly have an answer about the cause by then and/or some progress with this drug in treating patients.

Some people have also noted that more women have died as a result of this outbreak than men. Women's anatomy is different to men. A woman suffering from diarrohea is more likely than a man to cause that infection to spread to her urinary tract and then up towards the kidneys. Women are also drawn to different foods than men.

[Rocky_Shorz]

what would happen to the health care system in Germany if all 2000 need a $400,000/yr treatment?

[Bhusunda]

After the third worker of the sprout farm has fallen sick with EHEC, the officials have raided the sprout farm again, this time taking up to 500 (!) samples.
Looks like they really want to find something. I guess they will find something if they time is right.

But more likely is, they will continue this game a little longer.

The net is tightened.
It becomes more and more clear, that it is the organic food farmers they are going after.
They will continue playing this game, until the public will beg for more regulations.

[Bhusunda]

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[Arrowwind]

News update. E.coli showsforensic evidence of it being genetically engineered.

http://www.naturalnews.com/032622_ecoli_bioengineering.html

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I just dont know about this article.
No, veggies are not treated with antibiotics but often the animals from which fertilizer are sourced are.

Some microbes will have resistance to several classes of antibiotics. To me it is not a stretch for one to develop that is resistant to 8. It is not that unusual amongst the chronically ill to have culture and sensitivity lab reports that show resistance to almost everything, and what it still is susceptible to the susceptibility is scored as weak.

After all we already have MRSA strains that are... and other lessor pathogens that are resistant to a number of antibiotics, like 3 and 4. When you consider all the millions of exposures that go on annually to antibiotics even in just on nation, eventually, very bad things can happen. E coli is exposed to more antibiotics than probably any other microbe because we all have e coli and it is not a stretch to see one person exposed to 8 different antibiotics... I am sure I have seen it.... in fact I know for a fact that I myself have been exposed to 7 that I can recall in the course of my life... now for some of the patients I have had that number is way up there, and many of them do have significant resistant microbes.... you have to understand just how COMMON this is these days, especially amongst the chronically ill.

But this article by Dr Rima Labow presents some new information. Seems that DNA from the plague bacteria is now found in this strain of e-coli, Now this is genetic tampering for sure.
Dont know if this has already been presented, but it is the first bit of info that makes me think some real dirty deal is going on either by a black box governement agency or by a psycho.
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=9578 (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=9578)

Still all and all they have not created a super killer bug. Only slighly more than 1% are dying from this disease.. and I will remind you that this kidney failure that is occuring is known in other mini epidemics of e-coli contamination, so it is not new. What it certainly has is all the smackings of terrorism.

[Bhusunda]

[QUOTE=Shocking Display;238302]News update. E.coli showsforensic evidence of it being genetically engineered.

But this article by Dr Rima Labow presents some new information. Seems that DNA from the plague bacteria is now found in this strain of e-coli, Now this is genetic tampering for sure.
Dont know if this has already been presented, but it is the first bit of info that makes me think some real dirty deal is going on either by a black box governement agency or by a psycho.
[COLOR=darkorchid]http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=9578 (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=9578)


Thanks Arrowwind for this new link. I always wondered why they always talked only about 93% of the DNA being identical to an african E.coli in the german press and never about the origin of the remaining 7 %.

Yesterday they discovered a first evidence, a rotten cucumber from a bio garbage can which proved to be positive.
The 500 samples of sprouts they have taken are still analyzed.

Still no obvious suggestions for a 'solution' coming from the government though.
Maybe they have been really surprised.
The oppositional socialist party SPD though was demanding the founding of a special pandemic commando with federal police authority!

[Arrowwind]

[The oppositional socialist party SPD though was demanding the founding of a special pandemic commando with federal police authority!

What ever the cause, whom ever the culprit you can't help but wonder if this is exactly the response they are looking for.
Further enhancement of the police state...

People really need to stop freaking out. The death rate on this is about %1. Most people are getting better. Just like with 9/11 the people freak and allow new tyranny upon them out of fear that is mostly based in delusion, and in the case of 9/11, in my opinion anyway, illusion.

at what price comes freedom?

[Arrowwind]

Still no obvious suggestions for a 'solution' coming from the government though.
Maybe they have been really surprised.
The oppositional socialist party SPD though was demanding the founding of a special pandemic commando with federal police authority!

There is really only one solution by the government that will have long lasting health benefits for the masses... (aside from hand washing and clean production) dump the germ theory and recognize the truth of the biological terrain.... this is the only method that will ultimately reduce the need for antibiotics. Germany may be one of the few countries rational enough to give it a go as their cultural and scientific understanding of disease is so far more advanced than in UK or USA.....

one can only dream and wish

[nomadguy]

found this by accident today,
"A ten-minute DNA preparation from yeast efficiently releases autonomous plasmids for transformaion of Escherichia col"
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0378111987901314

I was actually lookin into plasmids and perhaps UFO technology and then this came up in the search.

[Bhusunda]

35 deaths so far.
About 100 will need a new kidney or live long dialysis.
New infections are on a slow decline they say.

But most important is the warning from yesterday not to grow your own sprouts!
The seeds might be already contaminated.

A personal experience how far reaching this madness is already noticeable:

I flew from Ireland to Germany last weekend and on arriving on my home airport I went to the airport-bakery to get something to drink and to eat after the flight.
On the counter of the bakery was a sign telling customers that all sandwiches are without tomatoes, salad, cucumber or anything green - for your 'protection'.
So I really had to gulp down my cheese-sandwich without any greens.
And you know, the germans make good sandwiches, but a cheese sandwich without a tomato or at least some green leafs? :(

[christian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpLBPtv5XcM

[Cartomancer]

Dutch growers are suffering daily losses of millions of euros.

http://www.rnw.nl/africa/article/dutch-cucumbers-are-safe-germans-don%E2%80%99t-want-them

I don't know the real story, but it fits the agenda of TPTB. Destroying the benevolent farmers/ growers. They will say we are bound to eat more of Monsanto's genetically modified food.

I agree with you. I see all of this as a move towards Codex Alimentarius. Codex is already in effect to some degree in Europe and they have banned homeopathic medicine and supplements. Codex lists vitamins and minerals as toxic! Codex is a UN plan to eliminate home remedy. organic farming, farmers markets, raw milk production and just about anything else associated with one sustaining themselves off of the grid. They are trying to take away your right to be different and live the way you want to. I can't believe that there is no outcry in Europe over this. Europeans generally do not put up with as much as Americans do. Codex Alimentarius is one of those things they will try to sneak in because no one else cares. Why did Monsanto patent aluminum oxide resistant crops?! Why is Monsanto even allowed to exist? How can you patent a living thing?

[Rocky_Shorz]

just had a flash the expected explosion in Germany being planned by the same group, spread the net...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Mods can you drop this over into rulers of the world...

he has a contact traveling to San Fran in the beginning of August...

fed reserve after the default... get some eyes on the area...

[Rocky_Shorz]

he's easy to read, Norwegians are from Denmark...

I was talking about this with nm recently...

[Rocky_Shorz]

bad feeling about the 4000 FAA workers not working right now for the next 5 weeks...

[Black Panther]

13 deaths US blamed on listeria outbreak from tainted cantaloupe

At least 13 people in eight states have died after eating cantaloupe contaminated with listeria, in the deadliest outbreak of food-borne illness in the United States in more than a decade, public health officials said on Tuesday.

http://www.tampabay.com/incoming/13-deaths-blamed-on-listeria-outbreak-from-tainted-cantaloupe/1194034

Another attack on the legumes ?

[Marianne]

Listen well folks -- always wash the outside of melons, cucumbers, and any produce, even if you plan to peel it! Think of all the stuff that's on it from the time it grew in the field and came through distribution to get to you. Even if we're not having an e-coli scare, it's a good routine to follow.

I have a sheet of natural cleaning recipes on my profile page, in an album called 'Green' -- you'll have to click More to see it. In there are 2-3 produce washes. My favorite is white vinegar and water, in a basin. Vinegar kills a bunch of germs, check out the heinz website if interested in details.

[witchy1]

Positive forensic evidence has surfaced indicating that the e. coli superstrain that recently ravaged Europe (http://www.naturalnews.com/032622_ecoli_bioengineering.html), was created by humans.

Science has proved that the bacteria is resistant to 8 different types of antibiotics and possesses DNA sequences from plague bacteria, a combination utterly unprecedented in nature, which has many authorities theorizing it was created in a lab and either released purposefully (with, perhaps, the intent to control global food and health), or accidentally into the food supply.

This distinct e. coli variation is part of the 0104 strain, and these strains are essentially never (under natural circumstances) resistant to antibiotics. To acquire this capacity they must be repetitively exposed to antibiotics in order to incite the “mutation pressure” that nudges them toward complete drug immunity. To unveil the origins of such a strain, science basically reverse-engineers the genetic code of the e. coli to determine which antibiotics it was exposed to during its development. Decoding the genetic makeup of the 0104 strain, scientists at Germany's Robert Koch Institute discovered it to be immune to all the following classes and combinations of antibiotics: 1) penicillins 2) tetracycline
3) nalidixic acid 4) trimethoprim-sulfamethoxazol 5) cephalosporins 6) amoxicillin / clavulanic acid
7) piperacillin-sulbactam 8) piperacillin-tazobactam.

Bacterial resistance to a single antibiotic is common; but the creation of a strain of e. coli that's immune to 8 different classes of antibiotics defies the laws of genetic permutation and combination in nature.
http://www.realitysandwich.com/engineered_epidemic

[conk]

Listen well folks -- always wash the outside of melons, cucumbers, and any produce, even if you plan to peel it! Think of all the stuff that's on it from the time it grew in the field and came through distribution to get to you. Even if we're not having an e-coli scare, it's a good routine to follow.

I have a sheet of natural cleaning recipes on my profile page, in an album called 'Green' -- you'll have to click More to see it. In there are 2-3 produce washes. My favorite is white vinegar and water, in a basin. Vinegar kills a bunch of germs, check out the heinz website if interested in details.

You can use hydrogen peroxide in a sink full of water.