Is Avalon an experiment?

[Tony]

What if Avalon was an experiment?

Maybe how we react and discover will decide if we,
as a species, are worth saving.

Can we work both as individuals and as a collective,
to increase our intelligence?

Maybe we are the elite...
or are we rats running around in cage?

[Heartsong]

We're doomed.

[truthseekerdan]

The humanity is an experiment also. :nod:

[Eligos]

To repeat what a brilliant mind once said (insert sarcasm here)

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."

- Donald Rumsfeld

[stdante]

if there is an experiment, we are the rats

who else ? :p

[Tony]

More.......more........!

[The One]

What if Avalon was an experiment?

What if it wasn’t

The possibilities my friend are endless

[Carmody]

There is no doubt in my mind that this forum is watched, monitored, assessed and has it's relevant (to the given group) data analyzed. And then used. It is even subject to manipulation, on several fronts.

This subject has been on my mind since about...1990 or so.

It took that long... to get to this place here.

This, and a few other forums. as in 'the other two', Camelot and Nexus. They can now extend their analysis into grouped dynamics on the multi-front (multiple like minded groups and how they integrate) levels. There is no doubt that this forum shows the direction that the 'leading public edge' (overall individual and associated collective) of societal and cultural function - is going to step into.

In that, the butterfly effect is in full force.

There are other forums, yes, but these three have a particular 'cast' and this component is what brings this aspect of 'forefront' to the situation.

I was waiting for this forum to appear, in the specific, since about 1998.

Camelot, Avalon, and Nexus have a depth of history to them -origins and prior structure, incarnations, the whole lot.

Which makes any analysis attempted a bit more functional, in some respects.

Literacy and sanity of a sort (in the observed subjects and "in situ" scenarios) is required for the needed analysis, as it pertains to "what does the aware/awakening human do, after some thought has taken place?" "how do they integrate in those moments and what is the result?" That sort of modeling data. And more, of course.

The 'bad guys' already know how to run a monkey in front of a gun, but what all groups want to know...is:


"how do you effectively shut down, curtail, retard, direct, or control..or expand, agitate, advise, indoctrinate, incite, etc... such people and situations, in a world that is evolving into such a scenario?"

[Anno]

If Avalon is an experiment then I don't think it's controlled by 'them'.

I say that based on comparison with other 'similar' forums like GLP, DIF and InfoWars etc. They're free for alls where the biggest mouth and tallest tale rules. It's like they're set up to show us as a bunch of ignorant fools who believe in anything and worship anyone who has a book or a timeshare on the moon to sell. Groups like the EDL and Masons (amongst others) operate on them openly and freely. The mods are more corrupt than your average politician. It's easy answers, emotive content, a total ban on critical thinking (especially concerning the resident guru) and extra points if you can swear, defile grammar or work the jews into your argument somehow. If they are an experiment, someone needs to get the CO2 chamber out.

In contrast, here (and the other better forums) would seem to be more like an independent experiment by some of us saying; "Hang on a minute, we're not all like that; look...".

However, experiments require controlled conditions to have any validity and I'm not convinced you can get that online.

A good question would be; how many of us would actually care if it was an experiment? I'd be ok with it, aslong as I got a badge and a certificate. =]

[MargueriteBee]

In this timeline perhaps.

[Daren]

I must Ask what is elite, if we are just Taking about money terms then I am not elite if we are talking in blood we may all be very close to each other any way. In any other way put myself far way above the general conception of elite. but I would put a lot of people far above the so called elite may be every thing we do that is not of a selfish manner or the intent is not that way, dose make an impact in the world even our thoughts make an impact. Much love Daz.

[Flash]

If Avalon is an experiment then I don't think it's controlled by 'them'.

I say that based on comparison with other 'similar' forums like GLP, DIF and InfoWars etc. They're free for alls where the biggest mouth and tallest tale rules. It's like they're set up to show us as a bunch of ignorant fools who believe in anything and worship anyone who has a book or a timeshare on the moon to sell. Groups like the EDL and Masons (amongst others) operate on them openly and freely. The mods are more corrupt than your average politician. It's easy answers, emotive content, a total ban on critical thinking (especially concerning the resident guru) and extra points if you can swear, defile grammar or work the jews into your argument somehow. If they are an experiment, someone needs to get the CO2 chamber out.

In contrast, here (and the other better forums) would seem to be more like an independent experiment by some of us saying; "Hang on a minute, we're not all like that; look...".

However, experiments require controlled conditions to have any validity and I'm not convinced you can get that online.

A good question would be; how many of us would actually care if it was an experiment? I'd be ok with it, aslong as I got a badge and a certificate. =]

No Anno, it is, iin my opinion, a let loose experiment in which you introduce variables at times (Charles for example and other minor ones) to see which direction it takes. It is empirical. The science of it with all its deductions and experimentations will show its head probably pretty soon. Some of it we have already seen.

They already have the raw data from the control group - most probably here, Avalon - and we are starting to have the experimental groups - most probably, imho, nexus and Camelot, that sprang after Avalon in time and in terms of forums. This is just logical.

It is sad to say, I hope it is not like this, but I strongly think that it is.

[truthseekerdan]

if there is an experiment, we are the rats

who else ? :p

That is your choice if you want to be one... :p

[Rocky_Shorz]

image if it is true that Avalon was chosen for an experiment by the PTB, bringing together the gifted from around the world to keep them spun so deep in fear we are unable to see the light...

but then they watched as we changed the experiment and put all of them under a glass...

they can't take a breath without us knowing, we cast aside all fear and stepped forward to take back our world...

what started as a small snowball rolling down the hill is now an avalanche spreading around the world...

Welcome to Avalon... ;)

[Flash]

image if it is true that Avalon was chosen for an experiment by the PTB, bringing together the gifted from around the world to keep them spun so deep in fear we are unable to see the light...

but then they watched as we changed the experiment and put all of them under a glass...

they can't take a breath without us knowing, we cast aside all fear and stepped forward to take back our world...what started as a small snowball rolling down the hill is now an avalanche spreading around the world...

Welcome to Avalon... ;)

`this is is, casting aside all fear (very difficult to do in my experience) and step forward. They already know we are putting them under a microscope, do we know we have been under the most powerful microscope for eons?

Cast aside fear and live with love (not the mushy kind by the way which is more emotions than love), they will have no hold.

[Steven]

If we are an experimentation, then who are the third hidden party? :) Ahah!

Namaste, Steven

[jackovesk]

I don't liken Avalon to an experiment...

I liken it to the Ultimate Evolution of Consciousness that the TPTW have 'No Way' of Stopping! Period!

[truthseekerdan]

If we are an experimentation, then who are the third hidden party? :) Ahah!

Namaste, Steven

The dreamers -- they want to keep the dream going... ;)

Much Love ~ Dan

[Rocky_Shorz]

I saw an image of a picture, where a small child is in a room and behind a 1 way glass was a group of psychologists...

behind them another group watching their moves...

behind them another group watching their moves...

behind them another group watching their moves...

and at the very top, watching over all of the groups, is the child who was under observation...

[truthseekerdan]

and at the very top, watching over all of the groups, is the child who was under observation...

Or maybe dreaming? ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Dreams are prisms of imagination, which brings the future we all want to create...

[zebowho]

Its a very good experiment, whether the admins/mods (on any forum) know it or not. The title would be, "How to use the internet to replace the TV". I see no major movements coming from these forums (at least they're far and few in between), everyone is still firmly planted in their seats but instead of just clicking their remote...now their clicking their keyboards. I'm not saying anything bad about anyone or group...just making an observation! ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

TV doesn't spark imagination, it programs the subconscious...

[Rocky_Shorz]

the internet doesn't flash fast food commercials at you every 6 minutes to keep you thinking about food, whether you are hungry or not...

here we find a different type of nourishment...

from heart pounding fear, to warm fuzzies, it's all here with a bunch of friends that understand there is more to this world than what we've been shown.

[zebowho]

the internet doesn't flash fast food commercials at you every 6 minutes to keep you thinking about food, whether you are hungry or not...

here we find a different type of nourishment...

from heart pounding fear, to warm fuzzies, it's all here with a bunch of friends that understand there is more to this world than what we've been shown.
I don't disagree, in fact I agree very much...but here we are sitting at the keyboards. Fuzzies are great but is this the right kind of "action" to effect change? Yeah, I can also do positive intention (which I do) but then change is still in small steps.

I'm not complaining or again, putting anyone or group down. Just an observation. :)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Just talking about the chemtrails being sprayed using Thorium which was causing anti matter blasts killing off millions of birds and fish...

stopped it from happening, at this forum you would be amazed if you knew the level of people watching...

The bounce back from the 33 controllers who set out to divide us, was like a bomb going off...

4000 years they stood together and in a week we shattered them into fragments...


anyone else care to experiment with us... ;)

[Belle]

I don't think it started out as an experiment, but I don't think it took too long for them to notice us watching them watch us. Sometimes I think they are waiting for us to unveil some kind of response/action to what they are doing...that will not happen. We are made up of too many diverse people from too many countries who share this information and act individually. There is no movement, as such. There is no pyramid type organization. There is nothing solid for them to go after. So they watch, maybe even throw a few curves our way to observe the reaction. A few may even join the forum in an attempt to subtly lead our attention away from them. We are not easily led or distracted.

I, personally, do not feel much fear from the people on this forum. imo there is much more objective questioning and digging going on here than emotional reactions...imagine their frustration since the use of fear and strong emotion appear to be their favorite tools.

[mondaze]

if we are the experiment we have an excellent chance to subvert the data...:cool:

[Tony]

Has anything changed for you?

Tony

[zebowho]

I wouldn't be surprised at the level of people watching, I'm sure these boards (and several others) are monitored very closely. The whole thorium issue may be but I haven't been convinced yet of either side(and thats just me). Even if it is so then that is good but what about all the millions of people starving, going homeless, disease ridden, and the rich are just getting richer on everyone's dime. I see major topics being talked about here but only small changes happening around the world.

I know I sound very cynical and believe me, I'm very hopeful for the human species as a whole but its my opinion that TPTB (or what ever you want to call them) arent afraid of forums like these. So far I have yet to see any one forum (or group of them) put masses of people on the street. Just isn't going to happen. There's too much to "talk" about!

[1159]

Project Avalon was never intended as an experiment, although I suggest it may have been intended as a 'barometer' of the climate of alternative public opinion. Whatever was intended originaly, it has become that barometer now and yes, influencial people do watch what happens here and other places also.

More worryingly, the activity here does not always look very polished or enlightened. Sometimes it appears very much like the rat-pack chasing the latest piece of sensational propaganda and hyping up whatever looks dramatic and exciting. No criticism intended; we have young souls here that need space to flex their muscles in order to discover the quieter powers within.

To be pragmatic about ProjectAvalon, it was a a breakaway from Project Camelot, originally run by Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan together. This forum was intended to follow a different path of community envolvement. Personally I am a member of both and have the highest regard for both Bill and Kerry. One is the skilled Diplomat and the other the cunning lion and both have different but valuable jounalistic methods. There is of course a finer print behind this, but suffice to say, Avalon and Camelot are two sides of the same coin.

When I view forums like this, it's a bit like reading The Mail On Sunday newspaper (UK readers will understand) sorry US/ AU/ FR/ JP/ etc ... You have your own broadsheets, I'm sure. I mean, I see lots of hype and sensational speculation. Picking up on a lead and extracting lots of exciting possibilities. Discussing every faction of conspiracy possibility and then repeating it over again. Sometimes the discourse can be entertaining, rahter than informing or inspirational ...

I have to say that I have also found some beautiful and wonderfully enlightened posts here and on Camelot Forum. Some members here really see and understand the meaning of evolving into a new state of humanity that is heart centered as opposed to egocentric. This is what I focus on and this is what I am thankful for.

As in any large family or community, you get a variety of viewpoints that don't always agree with your own. As a community I beleive we are a great success and I see Bill as a wise custodian of that community. We have bust-ups and scraps, people come and go, but ultimately we undersatnd that we all want to travel in the same dircetioin, towards truth, enlightenment and evolution. That is one mark of the new-human; co-operation and not competition.

[zebowho]

Yes, to answer your question Tony (if it was directed toward me ;) ) and some of that has come from this forum. It's been spiritual because of a few individuals who aren't here anymore. That is why I agree there are changes but only minor. Still makes a forum like these a good "experiment", as Belle stated, it would only take them a few nudges here and there to keep us "talking".

-z

[Tony]

I wouldn't be surprised at the level of people watching, I'm sure these boards (and several others) are monitored very closely. The whole thorium issue may be but I haven't been convinced yet of either side(and thats just me). Even if it is so then that is good but what about all the millions of people starving, going homeless, disease ridden, and the rich are just getting richer on everyone's dime. I see major topics being talked about here but only small changes happening around the world.

I know I sound very cynical and believe me, I'm very hopeful for the human species as a whole but its my opinion that TPTB (or what ever you want to call them) arent afraid of forums like these. So far I have yet to see any one forum (or group of them) put masses of people on the street. Just isn't going to happen. There's too much to "talk" about!

I was wondering, that if we could project a sane profile, in an uncontrived way, it may attract, enrich or magnetise others.

To question what they think they are, and feel inspired.

Tony

[Carmody]

and at the very top, watching over all of the groups, is the child who was under observation...

Or maybe dreaming? ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game

[Peace of Mind]

IMHO, this place was only suppose to be a rest stop on your quest. And/Or a place to organize and form actual communities in the real world. It's also a whistleblowers site but there aren't many whistles being blown...

I don’t see Avalon as an experiment. Well, not in the sense of alien species testing the members. If so, I’m inclined to think that there are more negative beings behind the scenes then there are righteous ones. Meaning, most of the information here is highly speculative. So much so that it can cripple the minds of the members with wild accusations/stories (no facts) and leave them submissive.

A great way to harvest a soul is to keep it docile, keep its vibration low, have it confused. If the spirit is not spending its time creating the world it needs/wants…then it's virtually useless...merely existing to have its energy feed the ones who seek to consume it. Those with eyes can see this.

Some members may become aware of the clever injustices and their own potential, but few apply themselves to the world…rather choosing to hang around waiting for E.T. and the Illuminati to logged on…thinking they will be told something worthy. There is nothing else to be said (only fear mongering stuff) but there is definitely a whole lot of work to be done. No one person can do it alone…it takes a unity, without it everyone in due time will lose…again. I can’t help but to feel how much of a great understatement this really is...

Peace

[Carmody]

I don't think it started out as an experiment, but I don't think it took too long for them to notice us watching them watch us. Sometimes I think they are waiting for us to unveil some kind of response/action to what they are doing...that will not happen. We are made up of too many diverse people from too many countries who share this information and act individually. There is no movement, as such. There is no pyramid type organization. There is nothing solid for them to go after. So they watch, maybe even throw a few curves our way to observe the reaction. A few may even join the forum in an attempt to subtly lead our attention away from them. We are not easily led or distracted.

I, personally, do not feel much fear from the people on this forum. imo there is much more objective questioning and digging going on here than emotional reactions...imagine their frustration since the use of fear and strong emotion appear to be their favorite tools.

It's like herding cats, unless they bring out the guns and make the monkey in us- run in front of it. Thus the use of that given tactic -- It has a proven track record.

[FrankoL]

What if Avalon was an experiment?

Maybe how we react and discover will decide if we,
as a species, are worth saving.

Can we work both as individuals and as a collective,
to increase our intelligence?

Maybe we are the elite...
or are we rats running around in cage?

You just realized there is a cage,

next you will be aware of a game...being played,

you will notice that you might have a role and what is next to do,

you will understand and master the game,

you will get out the cage and become controller.

What is your story, what you see when looking yourself in the mirror....still running rat (sheep...more politely)? Definitely you didn't understand much....

[zebowho]

I was wondering, that if we could project a sane profile, in an uncontrived way, it may attract, enrich or magnetise others.

To question what they think they are, and feel inspired.

Tony

I agree, that's one of the better traits of this forum that separates it from GLP and the like and one of the reasons I joined back on PA1.

[Lettherebelight]

Gut feeling--

Avalon is a place, a meeting place. A place where minds meet and share knowledge, information, and ideas.

Druids gathered within a grove of yew trees...wizards on a windy mountain top...Roman thinkers at the forum...ascetics cloistered together in caves...17th century Londoners at the chocolate houses....artists drinking coffee at Left Bank cafes....poets reciting in jazz bars of New York...

So here we are once again, my friends....
And regardless of the initial purpose for which this modern meeting place was established, we understand, that it is in such places that the future is determined. For well we know, for something to happen in the physical world, it must first take its birth on the mental plane.

Has it changed us? Most likely these exchanges impact everyone to varying degrees...hopefully, always in a positive way. Keeping it movin' towards the light. :plane:

[varuna]

"All of us from th cradle to the grave, are happiest when life is organised as a series of excursions, long or short, from the secure base provided by our attachment figures". This quote from John Bolwby's attachment theory jumped into mind reading your post, I guess when I think about Project Avalon I see it as a safe place in which we can share ideas, question our reality and then go out into the world and play the game knowing that there are some people in the world that share our vision - mutuality. We are esentially social creatures, individuals have achieved great things...however we thrive in relation to others.

good wishes to all



IMHO, this place was only suppose to be a rest stop on your quest. And/Or a place to organize and form actual communities in the real world. It's also a whistleblowers site but there aren't many whistles being blown...

I don’t see Avalon as an experiment. Well, not in the sense of alien species testing the members. If so, I’m inclined to think that there are more negative beings behind the scenes then there are righteous ones. Meaning, most of the information here is highly speculative. So much so that it can cripple the minds of the members with wild accusations/stories (no facts) and leave them submissive.

A great way to harvest a soul is to keep it docile, keep its vibration low, have it confused. If the spirit is not spending its time creating the world it needs/wants…then it's virtually useless...merely existing to have its energy feed the ones who seek to consume it. Those with eyes can see this.

Some members may become aware of the clever injustices and their own potential, but few apply themselves to the world…rather choosing to hang around waiting for E.T. and the Illuminati to logged on…thinking they will be told something worthy. There is nothing else to be said (only fear mongering stuff) but there is definitely a whole lot of work to be done. No one person can do it alone…it takes a unity, without it everyone in due time will lose…again. I can’t help but to feel how much of a great understatement this really is...

Peace

[Tony]

What if Avalon was an experiment?

Maybe how we react and discover will decide if we,
as a species, are worth saving.

Can we work both as individuals and as a collective,
to increase our intelligence?

Maybe we are the elite...
or are we rats running around in cage?

You just realized there is a cage,

next you will be aware of a game...being played,

you will notice that you might have a role and what is next to do,

you will understand and master the game,

you will get out the cage and become controller.

What is your story, what you see when looking yourself in the mirror....still running rat (sheep...more politely)? Definitely you didn't understand much....

There is a delicate but sharp knife edge to walk along.
Self deception looks back at every moment.
Compassion not control.
I choose to run along side fellow sheep.
I definitely do not understand much.
You keep me sharp.

Thanks
Tony

[galilava]

This is a good topic, thank you Tony for starting it - one needs to look in the mirror occasionally...
Please do not forget that Avalon is much larger than this forum - it has 32 teams from different nationalities , technical support etc. - all these people DO actual work for no material reward, self-coordinating without any controlling structure or management hierarchy... it is an experiment to create a so called holographic community -

Bill Ryan: "A holographic community (in my view) is like a beehive in which there are all kinds of autonomous projects that spontaneously start up and no-one person is masterminding it all.

It needs co-ordination (the function) but not a status-role (a co-coordinator with a fixed position in the organization).

My idea here is that John is getting the ball rolling but after a while it'll be self-sustaining and can self-manage and self-repair."


a new social order may be?.....

[dmarie]

What if Avalon was an experiment?

Maybe how we react and discover will decide if we,
as a species, are worth saving.



Worth saving? That's what they want us to think! They would love for us to believe that we are just an experiment....that we don't really matter. That could not be further from the truth! That is the big "secret" that they don't want you to know. If we knew just how much we they needed us we wouldn't let them play us like we do. They want us to get sucked into that drama and come out yelling for their help! You want a savior (not you in particular pie'n'eal)? Then a savior will come and it won't be one you believe it to be. They can come in innocent cute little packages as well or not so much. Do not look outside yourself...this is the pitfalls of mankind!

[giovonni]

thanks pie'n'eal,

i have been waiting a long time (since the fall 2008) for someone to simply state this premise...

It has always been my understanding Bill and Kerry launched the original Project Avalon Forum, for those that were drawn to their original purposeful mission (work) from the Project Camelot site. It is also no big secret that many of us here (on this forum) were first (truly) awoken from reading the "Handbook for the New Paradigm" books. Note, if i'm not mistake - the original 'ground crew' term was first coined and taken from the transcripts of this series. But most importantly, this forum has evolved into a (global) meeting place for these spiritual ground crew members to gather (network), share and discuss all things relevant to the coming shift in human consciousness- that there should be no doubt - is upon us now.

Since the first months of its inception, many of us (original members) here have come to believe and understand, that all this was (probably) already agreed upon by our collective conscious minds to occur (off plane) prior to incarnating here. Perhaps it (Project Avalon) can be defined as a gathering of soul (cluster) groups. This might also explain, why this gathering place has seen such immense inspirational diversity; even though at times displaying such bewildering and hectic chaos during its brief incarnation. Obviously, we are not all here from the same origin (hence the breaking off into sub-forum groups). But the truly amazing wonder is (no matter what transpires), we all seem to be so earnestly drawn and fused together in a beautiful learning spiritual way !

So ... "Is Avalon an experiment?"

Yes it is...in every way...

And without doubt we are being studied and observed from the near and far...for this is the truly the greatest experiment ever to take place upon this plane...
simply "human beings learning to become loving human. :pray:


Reference link to "Handbook for the New Paradigm"
http://www.trufax.org/handbooks/paradigmvol1.html

[christian]

An experiment within an experiment ad infinitum.

Enjoy :)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Has anything changed for you?

Tony

are you kidding, I first learned of Avalon when the Norwegian underground base was revealed and the end of our planet was coming...

heart pounding excitement, then the economic collapse, we're all gonna die...

we all stood under the unbrella until the date passed... and we realized we survived...

Bill and Kerry opened the forum so we all gathered to talk...

then laugh...

so have we changed... you betcha

chicken little comes running into the forum now pointing at the sky, we understand and veterans step forward wrapping a wing around the newly awakened...

we've definitely grown...

[Fred Steeves]

I think we just saw some further results of one continuing experiment in the recent hastily closed thread.

Cheers,
Fred

[Seikou-Kishi]

That thread was closed for the stated reason. Please try not to fuel paranoia.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I don't mind, it was a hornets nest in the making...

really there should be no animosity between any of Avalon and its spawns...

They're all my friends...

[Fred Steeves]

That thread was closed for the stated reason. Please try not to fuel paranoia.

I wasn't. That's an odd perspective.

Fred

[mondaze]

i think it was a remarkably astute move. We have grown and moved on. i commend those responsible.

[kersley]

Its a very good experiment, whether the admins/mods (on any forum) know it or not. The title would be, "How to use the internet to replace the TV". I see no major movements coming from these forums (at least they're far and few in between), everyone is still firmly planted in their seats but instead of just clicking their remote...now their clicking their keyboards. I'm not saying anything bad about anyone or group...just making an observation! ;)

You make a good point. Please don't stop there, Elaborate some more..
Thanks
Kersley.

[zebowho]

Absolutely Kersley!

If forums like this do not motivate people (more than just a few) to action then we could take the threads and substitute the channel listing from any one of the tv providers (Yes I hear ya rocky...I agree!! lol), meaning moving from one thread to another is just changing the channel. When I sit back and watch all the discussion going on forums all around I see a lot of, something we call in the IT field, chatter.

Now this isn't bad in and of itself since quite a lot of good conversation is happening, which helps people wake up, grow, empower, effect change on a smaller scale and occasionally make a major shift. Its those major shifts that are far and few in between. The powers that corrupt/take are moving fast, we've all seen it and are living it but here we are taking "mostly" small steps to enlighten (yes some huge too). Granted all who try, do the best they can but its that action that doesn't seem to have enough momentum yet. Meanwhile the powers are still moving fast, increasing the distance exponentially. That same distance that most here are hopping to close in on. Debts world wide are still increasing, wars are still happening (with no end in sight), politicians the globe over are still not held accountable.

Now consider that for a minute, and then think from the perspective of those with power. If they wanted to use a place like this as an experiment, they virtually have what a martial artist has as his central weapon. That is again, momentum. Not theirs but ours. Most of the time spent on forums is trying to catch up with threads (think Charles!!), so most of the time is talking. While that may help on a spiritual level and as I said earlier, on a "directed intention" level. The action is still minimal.

Major gatherings haven't been spurred by a forum group, as far as I know. So to use our momentum, a group of people or just one, would only need to start posting thread after thread. Make sure its interesting to get the attention of the forum members, (I've even been seeing "re-runs" of old "disclusure" resurface as new). Anyway, keep the threads moving and the people talking and this becomes the perfect experiment of how to move the internet to replace the tv. Now I'm spending most of my time just catching up with the latest conversation instead of doing! Which, by the way, I'm just as guilty of! ;)

So bottom line, I think a place like this could be a prime spot for an experiment, would we even see it happening. We have our momentum that is going somewhere. It feels good to us and makes us feel like we're accomplishing something. In a way we are but again its that distance. Are we really closing in on it, or just feeling better about where we are. Meanwhile here comes some more threads (which adds to that momentum) and we're all reading to catch up...or are we just switching that channel!? :) Since we provide that momentum, all that would be needed is a slight nudge to keep us "entertained". No programming needed...we bring that ourselves.

Now I do see things (movements) getting close but never quite getting over that initial "hey, thats a great idea" stage.

As I've said before, this is just an observation (which is a simplified one at that!!) and when I sit back and look at it, seems too perfect to me.

By the way, I'm not implying that all the thread starters are part of the problem (or even creating one), maybe its our need for disclosure that is the problem. Our need to "find the truth" or our need to "offer my opinion"! ;)

-z

[Maia Gabrial]

Yes, Pin'e'al,
Ve are being evaluated according to ze answers....Who is zis Bill Ryan anyvay? (Just joking, Bill......)
Maia

[Flash]

There is a delicate but sharp knife edge to walk along.
Self deception looks back at every moment.
Compassion not control.
I choose to run along side fellow sheep.
I definitely do not understand much.
You keep me sharp.

Thanks
Tony

post 1: 4 phrases/questions
post 2: 2 mono syllables
post 3: 1 question
post 4: 1 very insightful poem like comment - great, finnally we know a bit more what you think about Avalon being an experiment. In fact, what do you think of it Pie'n'eal?

How is going your experiment with this thread Pineal?

Great idea though|

(I could not figure out where the apostrophies were and always imagines you were a pineal - sage and wise LOL)

[Decibellistics]

Every single person's individuality and life is an experiment.....it's why we come here....to learn via trial and error and experimentation.....so i would answer yes to a certain extent.

[Rocky_Shorz]

one huge advantage we have are search engines...

someone curious types in PTB experiment and up pops this thread...

click and enter and another turns from curiosity to awakened...

sure we have tons of fluff, but we also have truths spread around this forum not found anywhere else in the world...

the younger generations are electronic, if it can't be found on the net, it isn't worth knowing... ;)

We're here, and they will find us...

[Lifesong]

Is Avalon an experiment?

In this particular moment, my feeling is that every posting member here is either a purposeful participant in this experiment or is aware that there is at least one experiment in progress, spanning the range of consciousness science, relationships, technology, and perceptions of good and evil, class, culture, economy and probably other subject hypotheses.

I think good is being done, and perhaps not all good, 'perceptionally' speaking of course. :)

I think regardless of whatever ‘action’ the ‘sheep’ are expected to ‘wake up’ and take, we in the experiment had better learn one thing and keep it in the front of our consciousness to the best of our ability at all times, and that is this:
If you really do believe the Law of One, then those sheep are our selves.
Do we see ourselves when we look into ‘their’ eyes?
Do we love them as we love ourselves?
Do we acknowledge the Divine Spark we share?
Do we have a responsibility to them?
Are we all trapped in this loop together or would some of us leave our brothers and sisters on the battlefield and save our own soul fragments?
Is it easier if we just call them the great unwashed masses and belittle their value in our own minds?
Do we dampen their Spark to make ours look brighter?

Law of One (http://www.llresearch.org/library/the_law_of_one_pdf/the_law_of_one_pdf.aspx)

Are these ladies sheep? Are these men? Are they part of an experiment?
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/05/30/egypt.virginity.tests/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

Should we be at peace or should we be at war? And what are the true costs of each?

Sorry, folks - I'm full of questions today.

I carry all of you in my heart and am very grateful, even on the days I'm sure there's only really a few of us here. :)

[KeelahSelai]

If it is an experiment it is only a social one, with no hidden party's.

[aranuk]

If any of us here at PA ever come up with a neat plan to overthrow tptb and set in motion a way to victory, do we not agree that the tptb will be watching and recording every move we make? We would most certainly be playing into their hands. I would caution everyone to be extremely vigilant NOT to devulge anything online at all. We surely, could easily organize meetings locally amongst ourselves to discuss anything we have heard secretly toward this strategy. Anyway I am in Edinburgh Scotland, UK and we can form local groups where we can meet quite regularly and also meet with other groups sort of nearby. Just my tuppence worth.

Stan

[Rocky_Shorz]

ahh but that is the best part of the game, they tell us their plans, thinking we have no choice in moving forward but to do what they want...

now we have gathered and have directed our intent directly at them...

we rippled their world, took the reins and are already driving this world...

I'm loving they are able to watch...

[mosquito]

I think we just saw some further results of one continuing experiment in the recent hastily closed thread.

Cheers,
Fred

Which thread was that Fred ?
(that'd be a good tongue twister - which thread Fred, which thread Fred !!)

[Lord Sidious]

ahh but that is the best part of the game, they tell us their plans, thinking we have no choice in moving forward but to do what they want...

now we have gathered and have directed our intent directly at them...

we rippled their world, took the reins and are already driving this world...

I'm loving they are able to watch...

Bearing in mind that you only take flak when you reach a target area, if we do attract attention above and beyond ''normal'' then that would be a sign that we are considered a ''threat'' for some reason.
If that were to occur, then I would suggest we all double whatever we were doing.

[Flash]

ahh but that is the best part of the game, they tell us their plans, thinking we have no choice in moving forward but to do what they want...

now we have gathered and have directed our intent directly at them...

we rippled their world, took the reins and are already driving this world...

I'm loving they are able to watch...

Bearing in mind that you only take flak when you reach a target area, if we do attract attention above and beyond ''normal'' then that would be a sign that we are considered a ''threat'' for some reason.
If that were to occur, then I would suggest we all double whatever we were doing.

So what was Avalon doing just before Atticus/Charles came on board?

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

Thanks, Varuna, for an important perspective. I agree that it helps to check in with like minded persons and share ideas and experiences, then go out and try to "play the game". I notice that for me, the stakes are becoming higher the more skills I bring to the table!

A forum is support, a tool, but the real change is occuring as each of us bring a more awakened state to our daily lives. I try to limit my time absorbing information from ANY external media, and spend more and more time in silence, meditation and contemplation when I am at home. The time spent interacting with the world is a reflection of all I am and will become. Thank you to all here for sharing their support, ideas and energy. Namaste.

[Lord Sidious]

ahh but that is the best part of the game, they tell us their plans, thinking we have no choice in moving forward but to do what they want...

now we have gathered and have directed our intent directly at them...

we rippled their world, took the reins and are already driving this world...

I'm loving they are able to watch...

Bearing in mind that you only take flak when you reach a target area, if we do attract attention above and beyond ''normal'' then that would be a sign that we are considered a ''threat'' for some reason.
If that were to occur, then I would suggest we all double whatever we were doing.

So what was Avalon doing just before Atticus/Charles came on board?

Dunno, I wasn't here then.
And, you are making an assumption about the background reason Atticus came here.
Be aware, I will not discuss Atticus topics, you should know why.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

Reading the responses, I am intrigued, and I want to believe that we have "rippled" the reality of the Controllers. How do we know this? It seems that it might be wishful thinking. I can't imagine the truly powerful being rattled by posts on a forum. But then again, I don't know all that goes on behind the scenes. What is the proof or reasoning that leads us to think we have an affect on those that are in physical command of the planet? Is it the appearance of Charles? The disappearance of Bill as an active presence as an interviewer? There is probably information that I'm not aware of, but since alot of people read and don't post, it might help to explain. Thanks!

[loveandgratitude]

GOOD MORNING AVALON........sorry to interrupt.....with this short message.....

LORD SID.....empty your mail box

will be back to post to this very INTERESTING THREAD:spy:

[nosgib]

Avalon....My interpretation is thus;
A forum whereby anywhere else those in discussion would (could) be considered to be irrational.
(some possibly are)
However just because someone considers another to be irrational does not prove their theory correct.[for the Establishment, yes; as without proof they are right]
Reminds me of Yossarian when he tried to have himself declared insane,however the reverse happened as that was a rational thought hence he was sane?
(how did it pan out? The establishment would never send a insane person out to kill on behalf of them.You have to be sane) Go drop some more bombs Yossarian! (what happens when it is all spin??)
Like science now.. They are right until someone stands up to them (as my GP says,it's a big call to rewrite history Garry).. Oh well it had to happen sometime and it feels like a good time to start.
And an example is; our energy problems will be over when the New formulae that succeeds e=mc sq. is given to us (won't those oil companies be happy)!
But for now (Avalon) a way of like minded people discussing life.

[aranuk]

ahh but that is the best part of the game, they tell us their plans, thinking we have no choice in moving forward but to do what they want...

now we have gathered and have directed our intent directly at them...

we rippled their world, took the reins and are already driving this world...

I'm loving they are able to watch...

Rocky why on earth would they tell us their plans? What they tell us they are going to do may not be what they are planning. The Georgia stones comes to mind. Intelligence organizations don't usually reveal anything in advance what they get up to or for that matter why they did it afterwards.

Stan

[nosgib]

Oh one more thing.
To those monitoring me and to those monitoring this Forum, No, I do not have the new formulae that I mentioned ,but it is coming (and not to me)

[loveandgratitude]

IS LIFE AN EXPERIMENT?

THE GREATEST FORCE IN THE UNIVERSE IS THE POWER OF IMAGINATION - Greater than money, greater than position. If only you knew how to use it properly.

In each moment, with each thought, you are choosing the level of your vibration and this creates the illusion you experience as life, but that is not the only illusion of life, it is simply the one you know. Its possible details are limitless and can be based on fear or any level of vibration, but all is illusion; there is no reality other than what each one creates. The collective illusion as experienced by the family of humanity is based on what each perceives as life and can know of life. As humanity's collective vibrations increase, the fear-based illusions disappear. And with each increase in vibration the rate of change is exponential.

As you assimilate new energies and new thoughts you may notice that you are seeing old lessons in the form of familiar energies in new situations, reappearing in your lives. You may wonder if you have gone back in the past, are not progressing on your path. None of those is true. You have shifted and you are on your ascension path.

But your ego is challenging you to maintain your new vibration, to move beyond fear and to step into your own power. Your view of life is changing because you are aware that you are living life as an illusion but you can choose the illusion you wish to life. It is a choice that is made in a single thought, which then creates a reality based on a new illusion of life or maintaining the illusion of life.

This choice is done through the power of the imagination. TPTB know this and understand this totally. This is why they do not want you to use your imagination and throw so much to us to keep us pre-occupied. I say to each one of you, never, never stop using your imagination to see a better world, a wonderful world where we become truely the Divine Souls we really are.

JUST IMAGINE............what could be. And imagine that any CONTROLLERS watching and listening are becoming loving, kind, compassionate, evolved souls who also want a better life and world for everyone

.7837

[Rocky_Shorz]

ahh but that is the best part of the game, they tell us their plans, thinking we have no choice in moving forward but to do what they want...

now we have gathered and have directed our intent directly at them...

we rippled their world, took the reins and are already driving this world...

I'm loving they are able to watch...

Bearing in mind that you only take flak when you reach a target area, if we do attract attention above and beyond ''normal'' then that would be a sign that we are considered a ''threat'' for some reason.
If that were to occur, then I would suggest we all double whatever we were doing.

So what was Avalon doing just before Atticus/Charles came on board?

let's see, Vatican? Artifacts? Disclosures? always soo much going on at once, I think Atticus was our confirmation of visibility, which for many is hard.

I just think of it as maybe a few people will see what I write and don't let the little things bother me

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Reading the responses, I am intrigued, and I want to believe that we have "rippled" the reality of the Controllers. How do we know this? It seems that it might be wishful thinking. I can't imagine the truly powerful being rattled by posts on a forum. But then again, I don't know all that goes on behind the scenes. What is the proof or reasoning that leads us to think we have an affect on those that are in physical command of the planet? Is it the appearance of Charles? The disappearance of Bill as an active presence as an interviewer? There is probably information that I'm not aware of, but since alot of people read and don't post, it might help to explain. Thanks!

does it make you afraid you might have upset the controllers, or does it make you smile...

that alone says we're winning even if you don't understand... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

ahh but that is the best part of the game, they tell us their plans, thinking we have no choice in moving forward but to do what they want...

now we have gathered and have directed our intent directly at them...

we rippled their world, took the reins and are already driving this world...

I'm loving they are able to watch...

Rocky why on earth would they tell us their plans? What they tell us they are going to do may not be what they are planning. The Georgia stones comes to mind. Intelligence organizations don't usually reveal anything in advance what they get up to or for that matter why they did it afterwards.

Stan

Take a look at the city names around the guildstones... We have it here somewhere... 33rd degree

they leaked their plans hoping to use fear to their advantage, but we didn't get afraid, we just started planning around their plans...

they came to us and told us who "their" enemies are... ;)

it's been a fun ride

[Flash]

Lord Sidious;233388Dunno, I wasn't here then.
And, you are making an assumption about the background reason Atticus came here.
Be aware, I will not discuss Atticus topics, you should know why.

Yes I know, I am not talking about Atticus at all but about what was going on with Avalon prior to Atticus that attracted so much attention. This may have been what we should have kept doing. I was mostly not there either, we could investigate though.

[mosquito]

IS LIFE AN EXPERIMENT?

THE GREATEST FORCE IN THE UNIVERSE IS THE POWER OF IMAGINATION - Greater than money, greater than position. If only you knew how to use it properly.

....

As you assimilate new energies and new thoughts you may notice that you are seeing old lessons in the form of familiar energies in new situations, reappearing in your lives. You may wonder if you have gone back in the past, are not progressing on your path. None of those is true. ...

Soooo true, I can only speak from my own perspective - I joined Avalon because I not only wanted to do something about the state of humanity besides work on myself (which I've been doing rigourously for years), but also beacause I wanted to share my insights, the things I'v learned on my journey. But the biggest thing that's happened for me in the 2 months I've been here is that I've had some heavy childhood fears come flying back at me, all to do with being heard. I've had rhe most God-awful week imaginable, culminating on feeling more ill on Saturday than I've felt in years, unable to move without searing pains going through my whole body, all focussed on my throat/neck.
Synchronistically my work situation has also been hammering the same message home (try living in a country whose spoken language seems to have been specifically designed to obfuscate, where people laugh at you for even attempting to speak it, who refuse to understand you in order to make you feel inferior).
So all in all I feel as though I've had a very deep wound opened up which I need to look at and heal, and believ me, it hurts.
But I know that this is all for my own good, and I know that all of us have things we need to examine and bring to light. If we can't heal ourselves, live with our own weaknesses then how can we ever hope to live together as one family, no matter how much we may long for it ?
Is Avalon an experiment ? Can't say, need to think more before commenting.
I would however like to echo waht numerous others have said - if we're rattling the control freaks, then we should continue what we're doing but amplified ! I for one am proud that I'm looking at all the things in my unconscious, proud that I still make mistakes, proud that I'm still learning. People who consider themselves to be "elite" are to be pitied, they're stuck in a psychic prison cell of their own making, thay have so much sh1t swept under the carpet their heads are bumping on the ceiling. So there's a possibility they know "the truth", but they evidently don't have the wisdom to use it.

[Flash]

do [/I]something about the state of humanity besides work on myself (which I've been doing rigourously for years), but also beacause I wanted to share my insights, the things I'v learned on my journey. But the biggest thing that's happened for me in the 2 months I've been here is that I've had some heavy childhood fears come flying back at me, all to do with being heard. I've had rhe most God-awful week imaginable, culminating on feeling more ill on Saturday than I've felt in years, unable to move without searing pains going through my whole body, all focussed on my throat/neck. here all my love to you and full empathy

Synchronistically my work situation has also been hammering the same message home (try living in a country whose spoken language seems to have been specifically designed to obfuscate, where people laugh at you for even attempting to speak it, who refuse to understand you in order to make you feel inferior). i do understand quite well, because of my own experience, hope it helps

So all in all I feel as though I've had a very deep wound opened up which I need to look at and heal, and believ me, it hurts. i know, i have seen it, once again all my love

But I know that this is all for my own good, and I know that all of us have things we need to examine and bring to light. If we can't heal ourselves, live with our own weaknesses then how can we ever hope to live together as one family, no matter how much we may long for it ? so true

Is Avalon an experiment ? Can't say, need to think more before commenting.
I would however like to echo waht numerous others have said - if we're rattling the control freaks, then we should continue what we're doing but amplified ! I for one am proud that I'm looking at all the things in my unconscious, proud that I still make mistakes, proud that I'm still learning. People who consider themselves to be "elite" are to be pitied, so true

they're stuck in a psychic prison cell of their own making, thay have so much sh1t swept under the carpet their heads are bumping on the ceiling. So there's a possibility they know "the truth", but they evidently don't have the wisdom to use it.

we do hear you here even if far away

[Mad Hatter]

We're doomed.
As in...

Delighted
Observers
Of
Manifested
Exquisite
Divinty

...??

[ViralSpiral]

Has anything changed for you?

Tony

ABSALOODLE!! I totally underestimated how powerfiul I am!!



Thank you Pie!

[toothpick]

Thanks pie'n'eal, what a great thread man.
Is Avalon an experiment?
I truly have no idea. It feels more like a community than an experiment.
But, I do know that I signed up with no reservations and would do it again, even if I knew it was an experiment.
What an experiment, man.
I have only been a member for a few months, but, I am so proud to be a member.
My experience here has been very good for my journey.
A nice bunch of like minded people, lots of love and respect flying around, everyone is pretty much on the same journey of learning, at least we are all on the same page.
There is some very smart people here to learn from.
Some of these posts are so good I have to read them twice to soak it all in.
I swear there is a few word smiths here or at the least some very good researchers.
And then all the video, every one excellant and enlighting.
I,m having a great time and growing a lot.
I would like to add that if our communicating would in any way make tptb blink an eyelid, we should all be very proud of ourselfs, or, should I say, Avalon.

toothpick

[Flyswim]

Hi all,

My take: Of course it is an experiment - isn't everything really? Does that knowledge make you reactive or proactive?

I like Loveandgratitude's take in post # 72 especially re, '"As you assimilate new energies and new thoughts you may notice that you are seeing old lessons in the form of familiar energies in new situations, reappearing in your lives. You may wonder if you have gone back in the past, are not progressing on your path. None of those is true. You have shifted and you are on your ascension path."

Cleanse, repeat, cleanse, repeat, spin cycle, dry out?!

Also, in answer to Aranuk post#70 who stated," ... why on earth would they tell us their plans? What they tell us they are going to do may not be what they are planning. The Georgia stones comes to mind. Intelligence organizations don't usually reveal anything in advance what they get up to or for that matter why they did it afterwards."

I've always surmised there is a Free Will clause (universal Law?) that means one must state the intention before manifesting - if the collective ignore the intention then game on?

I'm constantly in a state of change. In fact, it's the only thing I can change.

Flyswim

[Newlyn]

We're doomed.

Hahaha haHA! xD

I don´t think I need to read more than that! :D

[astrid]

It's all a matter of perception.
Beyond the matrix its all an illusion anyways.
Separation is the problem.
Oneness is the solution.

jSaskZZd0aQ

[Rocky_Shorz]

ahh but that is the best part of the game, they tell us their plans, thinking we have no choice in moving forward but to do what they want...

now we have gathered and have directed our intent directly at them...

we rippled their world, took the reins and are already driving this world...

I'm loving they are able to watch...

Bearing in mind that you only take flak when you reach a target area, if we do attract attention above and beyond ''normal'' then that would be a sign that we are considered a ''threat'' for some reason.
If that were to occur, then I would suggest we all double whatever we were doing.

So what was Avalon doing just before Atticus/Charles came on board?

The Anglo Saxon Mission...

deadly e coli outbreak... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission&p=234863&viewfull=1#post234863)

[Warlock]

If it is, IT'S A DAMN GOOD ONE!!!!!:clap2:

Warlock

[WEAREONE]

Their is a bigger picture, it is beyond us it is beyond the controllers. It is more than US. It is universal, it is multi universal, it is dimensional, it is multidimensional. It is so much bigger than we can imagine. Whatever terms you can use to define the possibilities. However in the beauty of all. This small planet of us can do anything and be anything. Like a single atom of a large tree.

[Tangri]

If we are an experimentation, then who are the third hidden party? :) Ahah!

Namaste, Steven

I assume you know the second one when you ask for third

[Nanoo Nanoo]

" you are what you is .. "

Frank Zappa

[thalox]

I saw an image of a picture, where a small child is in a room and behind a 1 way glass was a group of psychologists...

behind them another group watching their moves...

behind them another group watching their moves...

behind them another group watching their moves...

and at the very top, watching over all of the groups, is the child who was under observation...

I would totally love to see this picture!

I think everything is an experiment. Yes what we here at Project Avalon are trying to do is be a better species with love, harmony, knowledge and so on. Has it ever been done before like this? if not, then yes we are experimenting to get to the end goal. what is that end goal? well that is forever changing for we are forever changing.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I saw it as a 3D Mural on the side of a University building...

but it hasn't been painted yet... ;)