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PTTurboe
2nd June 2011, 01:01
Interesting!

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/2011-the-coming-collapse-of-the-world-economic-order-part-1

Koyaanisqatsi
2nd June 2011, 01:36
The system won't collapse. What would be the point? What they want is for us to be in constant fear that it will collapse, then they can really manipulate things. The economic system is the tool, they won't break the tool that gives power imo.

Lord Sidious
2nd June 2011, 03:15
The system won't collapse. What would be the point? What they want is for us to be in constant fear that it will collapse, then they can really manipulate things. The economic system is the tool, they won't break the tool that gives power imo.

They will collapse the currencies.
They have before and they will again.
The difference this time is we know their game.

Karma Ninja
2nd June 2011, 03:55
The system won't collapse. What would be the point? What they want is for us to be in constant fear that it will collapse, then they can really manipulate things. The economic system is the tool, they won't break the tool that gives power imo.

They will collapse the currencies.
They have before and they will again.
The difference this time is we know their game.

I agree LS it appears as though the domino's have been lined up and we are simply waiting for the pieces to start falling. The easiest way to understand the state of the worlds economy is this...

1. China, the worlds #1 economy, is in a state of massive inflation or hyperinflation. This will have an impact on the yuan which will drive the price of goods produced in China up and as a result cause the price of most goods on the planet to go up as well.

2. USA, the worlds #2 economy, is shattered. They are facing one of the greatest depressions we have ever seen. Every sign points to a collapse of their economy, currency and society. There is no way out of this other than bankruptcy. This will have massive ripple effects on the rest of the worlds economies. Their main export is war and they are fighting on numerous fronts (never a good idea). The world is waking up to their games and sees the corruption and negative influence American policy has had in every single place it has landed. I agree with the predictions that see major turmoil and can only pray for my neighbours to the south.

3. Japan, the worlds #3 economy, is devastated from the tsunami and subsequent nuclear meltdowns. The nuclear problem is not going away soon and trust in Japanese goods will continue to decline and as a result, their economy will decline and send shockwaves through the world. All of the money in Japan will be spent on repairing, rebuilding or reconstructing the aftermath of the nuclear problem.

4.Europe or the EU is facing incredible insolvency problems from many members of its union. It is not just the PIGS nation that are insolvent, there are numerous other countries that are suffering as well.

All of these factors add up to a massive collapse like none we have seen before... Each and any of the factors will only accelerate the problems of the others. There are other issues facing the world that can cause economic turmoil as well (food shortages, weather problems, natural disasters, etc...)

Brazil, Russia, China and India will emerge as the worlds new powerful economies and the tide will shift completely. I am NOT saying this will all be bad. I don't think these countries want to see the rest of the world suffer like the current leaders have been so willing to allow to happen. This is all apart of the shift in consciousness and changes taking place around our world. We will prevail in some form or another.. Prevail not win.

Either way we are in for a wild ride!

Eric J (Viking)
2nd June 2011, 08:32
The system won't collapse. What would be the point? What they want is for us to be in constant fear that it will collapse, then they can really manipulate things. The economic system is the tool, they won't break the tool that gives power imo.

They will collapse the currencies.
They have before and they will again.
The difference this time is we know their game.

Yes I was just reading this...

If we do have a complete collapse what would happen to savings, or the value of houses??? Mr Sidious? anyone?

viking

crosby
2nd June 2011, 08:40
The system won't collapse. What would be the point? What they want is for us to be in constant fear that it will collapse, then they can really manipulate things. The economic system is the tool, they won't break the tool that gives power imo.

they will collapse the system. that's why it exist in the first place. this is a tool to control all the masses all the time. they will break this one for the use of something that will work better for them.
regards, corson

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The system won't collapse. What would be the point? What they want is for us to be in constant fear that it will collapse, then they can really manipulate things. The economic system is the tool, they won't break the tool that gives power imo.

They will collapse the currencies.
They have before and they will again.
The difference this time is we know their game.

Yes I was just reading this...

If we do have a complete collapse what would happen to savings, or the value of houses??? Mr Sidious? anyone?

viking

my thoughts are they will confiscate all savings, close 90% of the banks and the value of your homes will drop to almost nothing.
regards, corson

Lord Sidious
2nd June 2011, 09:45
The system won't collapse. What would be the point? What they want is for us to be in constant fear that it will collapse, then they can really manipulate things. The economic system is the tool, they won't break the tool that gives power imo.

They will collapse the currencies.
They have before and they will again.
The difference this time is we know their game.

Yes I was just reading this...

If we do have a complete collapse what would happen to savings, or the value of houses??? Mr Sidious? anyone?

viking

If you want to know what it will be like, google Weimar Republic.
That used to be in Germany, this time it will be worldwide.

Eric J (Viking)
2nd June 2011, 14:18
Cheers Sid ...

I must say the e-book on the link provided by the OP is a very interesting read...

Exerpt here ...


This is what most human beings will experience at the end of 2012, when they will ascend in
the 5th dimension. It is the apotheosis of all human experience – an event of truly cosmic,
heavenly dimension, and mankind ought to be exalted in the coming days by this dazzling
perspective. Heaven has been promised to mankind since eons of time, Jesus, being the last
prophet in a raw, to make them aware of this promise, and now heaven is within a reach.
Brethren, this is the most exciting time to live on earth. Enjoy it!


And e-book here...

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2011/05/dr-georgi-stankov-ascension-2012-universal-law.html


viking

Koyaanisqatsi
3rd June 2011, 00:29
Okay, beginning to see things from a better perspective now, thanks LS and all. Just seems wierd that the banks fought so long and hard to ensnare 1st world nations in central banks that produce endless debt, only to give it all up via world economic collapse. I guess what i'm trying to say is, Whats the end game? What could give them more control than what they already have?

fifi
3rd June 2011, 01:41
This is my real experience from the dictatorship/communist country where I escaped from:

The government one day announced that they needed to exchange the currency. One dollar of the new currency will be equivalent to 500 dollars of the old currency. Every household has 3 days to exchange their money/savings, etc. and the maximum is 2000 new dollars for each family. So if you were a millionaire, or ones with a lot of money saved in the bank or hidden at home, the maximum you could have was still 2000. After those 3 days, all the old money became worthless papers. Although the government tried to keep this news as secret as possible, the news was still leaked the night before the exchange date, so people with a lot of money scrambled to buy anything they could buy, as the old money would become worthless later. Some tried to give money to their poor relatives with one condition: out of the 2000 dollars that they could exchange, gave a percentage back to the owner as agreed between them... So the government knew exactly how much money you have. When you went to the money-exchange station, you had to present the "household" card, with the names of all the people in the family. They made sure you could not cheat and exchange more than once. And 2000 for the whole family, not for one person. Everything you do, you need permission. To get permission, you need to have your household card with you for verification.

sygh
3rd June 2011, 01:51
Okay, beginning to see things from a better perspective now, thanks LS and all. Just seems wierd that the banks fought so long and hard to ensnare 1st world nations in central banks that produce endless debt, only to give it all up via world economic collapse. I guess what i'm trying to say is, Whats the end game? What could give them more control than what they already have?

RFID chips.

fifi
3rd June 2011, 01:53
I forgot to mention, the value of the currency is not equivalent to US dollars. This happened a long time ago when I was there, so I don't remember exactly how much they were worth, but probably the new dollar is still less than 1 US dollar. So each household would have less than 2000 US dollars. I don't think they can do such thing here in USA. But they could in my country, as the people were tightly controlled.

GCS1103
3rd June 2011, 03:21
The system won't collapse. What would be the point? What they want is for us to be in constant fear that it will collapse, then they can really manipulate things. The economic system is the tool, they won't break the tool that gives power imo.

They will collapse the currencies.
They have before and they will again.
The difference this time is we know their game.

Yes I was just reading this...

If we do have a complete collapse what would happen to savings, or the value of houses??? Mr Sidious? anyone?

viking

Real estate is continuing to decrease in value and the end is not in sight. The banks are holding on to a massive inventory of REO's (bank owned properties) that they have not yet unleashed on the market. Once they do, there will be a severe devaluation of homes due to deflated prices that the banks can afford to sell their properties for. This adversely affects the neighboring homes since prospective buyers do not want to pay $400,000.00 for a house that is similar to a bank-owned home down the street, selling for $275,000.00.

The additional incentive for these banks is that the U.S. government, under the FDIC, has a program called the "Loss Share Agreement". To sum that up, the FDIC (the taxpayer) "shares" the investor's loss with taxpayer funds so that the banks in fact, do not lose money, but walk away with a nice little profit on these foreclosed properties. Here is how this works (I am using a real example): IndyMac Bank went under (exactly as planned) and was taken over by the FDIC. The FDIC sold Indymac to One West Bank. The residential loans were sold to OneWest Bank at 70% of their values. (One West Bank is owned by George Soros, Michael Dell, John Paulson and another Goldman Sachs guy) The FDIC promised that for any loss OneWest Bank took, on a residential mortgage, the FDIC would cover 80-95% of the loss. The loss however, is calculated on the original mortgage amount, not what OneWest bought the loan for (70% less). So.....assume a mortgage amount of $500,000.00. The loan is in default. OneWest comes in and buys this loan for $350,000.00 (or 70% of the original mortgage). The property is sold at foreclosure (or purchased as a short sale) for $280,000.00. The FDIC calculates the bank's loss as $220,000.00 (the original mortgage of $500,000.00 less the sales price of $280,000.00)

The loss of $220,000.00 "earns the lender" an 80% check from the FDIC in the amount of $176,000.00. Add to the $176,000.00 the sales proceeds of $280,000.00 and the amount One West
actually closed the house for is $456,000.00. They paid $350,000.00 for the loan- net profit on one house- $106,000.00. In addition, if the house is foreclosed and not sold as a "short sale" the government adds additional money for legal fees, maintenance fees, utilities, etc. This is one of the reasons our housing markets are going down the tubes. The original Loss Share Agreement was between the FDIC and OneWest Bank. There are well over 200 banks that are part of this Agreement. This is the future of the housing market. It is happening now and it will continue as long as the lenders are given so many "incentives" by the government. I am watching this debacle from the inside and there is a concerted effort to destroy the real estate market by these lenders and investors.

Lord Sidious
3rd June 2011, 03:29
Real estate doesn't lose value, it is the currency.
If you bought a property 10 years ago for $100,000 and now it costs $400,000, it didn't quadruple in value, the currency is now worth 25% of what it was when you bought it.

conk
3rd June 2011, 17:52
They will collapse the currencies.
They have before and they will again.
The difference this time is we know their game.

Exactly! They've been doing it since fiat money was conceived. Up and down. Up and down. They profit tremendously by our misforture. Grandest scheme ever and only 1 in a million understand. Try and explain it to your family and friends and watch their eyes glaze over, and see how fast they change the subject.

It simply has to collapse. The currency cannot be inflated to infinity. Yes, the fear factor is a huge control mechanism.