Aydo Water

[SkepticSoul]

Hi all
I did a search in forums and found nothing about this amazing water!

Check out this youtube video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw3VOGZMRUU&feature=player_embedded

It has all kinds of intresting and powerful properties to clean the world!

[Cjay]

Thank you for bringing this to our attention :)

Hopefully this heralds the beginning of the end for toxic dispersants such as Corexit EC9500A used in the Gulf of Mexico.

[bearcow]

i first heard about this guy about ten years ago. back then he was saying the same thing that he is saying today. That he has been in contact with governments and they will start using the technology to clean up the pollution in the environment within months. I contacted one of his reps in 2002 in the USA about all this and he said the product will be available in about 6 months for the whole world to use. I think this guy looks for high end investors to fund one of his "factories" in Europe and steals their money, calling it a business loss.

http://zone5.org/2007/11/the-great-magic-water-conference/


The Great Magic Water Conference
Posted on 16 November 2007 by Graham

Anatomy of a Scam

A few years ago I attended an extraordinary event in Co. Monaghan which I still refer to as “The great magic Water Conference”. Organised by local environmentalists to promote the “discoveries” of an outfit called Perfect Science, it drew together an extraordinary mix of council water engineers, environmentalists and water diviners, pendulum swingers and other purveyors of New Age religion.

I wont reveal the names of those involved in setting up the conference; some of them are old friends I havn’t seen for a while. Ill refer to the main organiser as “John”- not his real name. John had managed to gain the support of the County Council who opened the event and reputedly put up money to pay for it.

Perfect Science

The Perfect Science crew claimed to have a (proprietorial) product of “super-ionized” water which, in its various preparations, had the ability to cleanse the most polluted body of water- a lake, river or well, for example- simply by the addition of a few drops of the Perfect Science mix. Even water polluted by PCBs and heavy metals, it was claimed, could be purified by this solution and the team claimed that within five years (this was 10 years ago) “all the polluted water in the world would be purified”.

Here is an extract from the “Perfect Science” website explaining their ground-breaking and earth-shattering discoveries which have enabled them to overturn the Laws of Physics:

http://www.perfectscience.net/

We consider the Perfect Science Energetic formula to be the best aligned to the Planet and the living beings. This consideration is also supported by the pool of data obtained by Aquatron device by which patients are tested for the different medicaments available. It is only the modern science that recognized the reality as the web of self-consistent interactions in multi-dimensional space-time in which time and interactions are generically non-linear. This means that the reality we live is what we have created, and that we as humans (and that is valid for all entities that exist in the universe) are the result of mutual interactions. So to change the world in which we live we have first to cleanse our physical and energy bodies, in order that we will be able to help in cleaning the Planet and all what exist on it and was created during long painful history of the human fall, and align it with the New world

The brains behind Perfect Science, we were told, was Ayhan Doyuk from Turkey.

Doyuk was presented as a kind of maverick genius who had unlocked the secrets of the universe and discovered the preparations that were being demonstrated: in a show that could have come straight out of the 19th Century snake-oil salesman, Doyuk took a fish-tank of dirty polluted water which came from a nearby lake which had been polluted in the past by a tannery,added a few drops of Perfect Science water, and within half-an-hour, hey presto! the water had clarified.

Now, Im no scientist, but it did occur to me that there may be a number of substances that would have the effect of clarifying dirty water by making the particles settle out. I seemed to remember some such experiment I had done with a chemistry set as a child.

“One grade below Holy Water”

Meanwhile various people in the audience were passing round a sample and waving pendulums over it. Conferring with each other, there was a general consensus: the Perfect Science water was “just one grade below the spiritual power of holy water”. Well that didn’t seem very impressive- I mean, you can get Holy water freely from any Holy well, can’t you?

The water engineers from Dublin and surrounding areas were not impressed. At coffee break I chatted to one of them: what are you guys doing here? Well, she said, the water pollution situation in Dublin is terrible. We just don’t know what to do about it. We’ll try anything.

None of them stayed for the afternoon session, however, which consisted of some fairly unimpressive slideshows about the work of Perfect Science around the world, delivered by two decidedly creepy older Americans in suits (yes Im betraying my prejudices here) who name-dropped this UN conference and that UN conference; “we’re working with the Turkish government…with the Koreans…the Chinese…”

The atmosphere at the place where many of us were staying for the conference was electric, with all sorts of rumors flying around and many polarised factions amongst those assembled- some believed it to be a scam, others convinced it was genuine, many unsure but still willing to give the benefit of the doubt less some genuinely planet-saving discovery might be thrown down the drain and the chance missed.

At one point, with dozens of people gathered around a huge bonfire outside, an intense debate ensued with one individual passionately urging John to denounce Perfect Science as con merchants, lest his reputation be destroyed, while John, for his part, argued just as passionately that he was convinced that the Perfect Science formula was genuine.

When well-known environmental scientist arrived I was keen to hear his professional opinion, I asked him what he thought. Carefully, in measured and sober words, he declared: “I think it is 99% sure that Perfect Science are really onto something; and only 1% chance of a scam”.

But when I suggested to him that there may be many commonly available chemicals that would settle out particles in murky water, his mouth dropped and he covered his face in his hands -”How could I have missed that?”

“Throw away your rational minds!”

The next day, awkward questions were asked. Someone had been onto the UN and the Turkish government and discovered there was no official programme in Turkey to unroll the Perfect Science water purifying scheme across the country, as had been claimed; there was no record of them having attended the UN conferences mentioned. Red faces on the stage but protests from the floor as, to my astonishment, a woman stood up and turned to the audience imploring them “not to ask these questions: what Perfect Science us is offering is a new paradigm. In order to understand it we must throw away our rational minds!”

In debates amongst other skeptics present there was one unsolved issue: what was the motive? Where was the money? Perfect Science were not being paid for their attendance- so what was in it for them?

The answer came from a local farmer who had been chauffeuring around the team during the weekend. He reported that two finely-dressed Belgian women who appeared at the conference on the Sunday had met with members of perfect Science in their hotel. He claimed to have seen a cheque being passed from them, presumably to purchase some of the large array of body-care products Perfect Science were marketing under their name- body lotion, massage water, various soaps and oils, all with the Perfect Science label. Impressed by the conference itself- and perhaps especially by the apparent support by the County Council- the Belgians had been keen to do business.

By Sunday afternoon the cracks had started to show. As the perfect Science team prepared to leave, they were accosted by a few of us and charged with pedaling a fraudulent product. The water that had been clarified in the earlier demonstration had in fact been sent to the Environmental Protection Agency for analysis- when the results came back, the water was shown to be more, not less polluted (because of the chemical which had been added). Perfect Science were rushing off to catch a flight- content with the weekend’s business and armed now with a film of the conference in Co. Monaghan, Ireland showing how they are working at official council level here, they were keen to head off for the next scam. Their lawyer was pushed forward to explain: “You don’t have full spectrum analysis in this country. In the States, the tests would show the benefits of the Perfect Science formula”.

Culture of Belief

For me the whole weekend was an opportunity to witness a professional international scam close up, but the real lesson was more psychological and sociological: why do people believe what they believe? Why is sections of the environmental movement so susceptible to being taken advantage of in this way? Why is there such a willingness to “throw away the rational mind” which leads to such naivety? And how many more cynical outfits like Perfect Science are there out there plotting the next scam aimed deliberately at the only- too- willing-to-believe New Age faithful?

Im not suggesting that all such irrational beliefs are exploited cynically, just that the environmental movement is especially open to scams like this. We dont seem to have the thinking tools- the skills and training necessary to sort out the wheat from the chaff, to think critically and openly about things and then come to reasoned conclusions.

This kind of scam preys upon our sensibilities: we don’t like to be the one claiming to be “right” because it sounds superior and arrogant. (Im well used to this accusation myself). Our desire for some kind of miraculous breakthrough to solve the seemingly intractable problems of a world on the brink can lead to an abandonment of reason. And we can have an understandable suspicion of science which gets blamed for a lot of the destruction in the world.

In a world on the brink of disaster, fueled by climate change deniers, techno-fantasists, and corrupt politicians, I think this is a cause of great concern to environmentalists everywhere.

I have just this lunch-time while in the middle of writing this been involved in a debate with two people I know well about the validity of astrology. My claims that there is no scientific evidence to support astrology were countered by saying that science is not reliable anyway, that the researcher will likely find what they want to find, that just because the studies cant prove an effect does not mean it isn’t there, and so on.

I insisted on consistency of argument and asked their views on climate change and other “scientifically” established causes of the environmental movement. Quite happy to be consistent, they agreed that in fact there is no way of being sure of anything, that all beliefs (I used racism as another example) are equally valid (or invalid) and no-one actually knows anything.

The dangers of this way of thinking should not be underestimated, and although astrology for example might be seen as “harmless” the same method of justification for other beliefs would be disasterous.

For some time long after the event I would occasionally meet people who had been there who would tell me, “Well, we still don’t know for sure that there wasn’t something in it.” Just like we don’t know for sure that we wont find a huge new store of fossil fuel under the melting arctic that will save our consumer society; just like we don’t know for sure the climate is warming up and we are the main cause; just like we don’t know for sure that the industrial growth society is unsustainable.

What the environmental movement needs more than anything else right now is critical thinking. We do not need New Age religion or any other kind of superstitious belief; but we cannot afford to throw out scientific inquiry.

[Cjay]

Bummer if that's true. I was thinking as I watched the video, "this guy is talking a lot but saying little". I found it very hard to listen all the way through.

[SkepticSoul]

I have sent an e-mail to the corresponding affiliation of Niburu Group Holland about this topic of scam.
They are a very well known group in Holland and Belgium, they are about reporting the truth to the public and bettering the(ir) country in the process.

They have sent me back a reply and were happy that I sent my concerns about this Aydo water.
They also confirmed it is the truth and is not a scam.

Here's the reply I got:

Dag Michael,

Bedankt voor je mail.

Er is veel desinformatie te vinden op het internet. Wij weten dat AyDo werkt en geen schade doet. Niet omdat we dat geloven, maar omdat we dat met kritisch oog hebben gezien en ervaren.

Wel bedankt voor de informatie en goed dat je niet alles klakkeloos aanneemt.

Alle goeds,
Jessica Damhuis

Translation:
Thank you for your e-mail

There is alot of disinformation on the internet. We know that Aydo water works and doesn't do any harm. Not because we believe it, but because we have witnessed and experienced it with sceptic eyes.

Still appreciated and we are glad you don't believe anything just like that.

Best of wishes
Jessica Damhuis

End E-mail

Question:

Could someone get a hold of a sample of Aydo Water and test it out to get 'second' opinion...
I really want this Aydo Water to not be a scam because look at the benefits it gives omg...

Greetz
Michael