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shadowstalker
5th June 2011, 03:51
Has anybody done numerology on this number? :confused:

sunnyrap
5th June 2011, 04:52
From Wikipedia:
144000 is a natural number. It has significance in several religious movements. In the Mayan calendar, a baktun is a period of 144,000 days.
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The number 144,000 has a religious significance for Christians because of its use in the Book of Revelation of the New Testament. The 144,000 are mentioned three times in the Book of Revelation:

"Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the servants of God on their foreheads." And I heard the number of the sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:

12,000 from the tribe of Judah were sealed,
12,000 from the tribe of Reuben,
12,000 from the tribe of Gad,
12,000 from the tribe of Asher,
12,000 from the tribe of Naphtali,
12,000 from the tribe of Manasseh,
12,000 from the tribe of Simeon,
12,000 from the tribe of Levi,
12,000 from the tribe of Issachar,
12,000 from the tribe of Zebulun,
12,000 from the tribe of Joseph,
12,000 from the tribe of Benjamin were sealed.

Revelation 14:1 (ESV)

Then I looked, and behold, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.

Revelation 14:3-5 (ESV)

And they were singing a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and before the elders. No one could learn that song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. For it is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are virgins. It is these who follow the Lamb wherever he goes. These have been redeemed from mankind as firstfruits for God and the Lamb, and in their mouth no lie was found, for they are blameless.

The numbers 12,000 and 144,000 are variously interpreted in traditional Christianity. Some, taking the numbers in Revelation to be symbolic,[1] believe it represents all of God's people throughout history in the heavenly Church.[2] Others insist the numbers 12,000 and 144,000 are literal numbers and representing either descendants of Jacob (also called Israel in the Bible) or others to whom God has given a superior destiny with a distinct role at the time of the end of the world.[3] One understanding is that the 144,000 are recently converted Jewish evangelists sent out to bring sinners to Jesus Christ during the seven year tribulation period.[4] Another is that the 144,000 are a larger version of the ancient Israelite army, sent out at the end of the tribulation period to kill the ungodly.[5] Preterists believe they are Jewish Christians, sealed for deliverance from the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Dispensationalist Tim LaHaye, in his commentary "Revelation: Illustrated and Made Plain" revised (Zondervan, 1975 {first printing 1973}) considers the 144,000 in Revelation 7 and the 144,000 in Revelation 14 to be two different groups of people, the former Jews, the latter Christians.[6]

Post on curezone.com:
...the Mayan's said that in 1987 (date of the Harmonic Convergence) if a minimum of 144,000 people came together on sacred spots on the Earth it would be enough people to raise the vibration of the Earth and begin healing the planet....

Post on davidicke forum:
The 144,000 true sons of Israel. Or Isis-Ra-El. These deities are emanations of the sun, so the 144,000 will be souls imbued with the energy of the sun. Now, this doesn't say that they are the spirit of the anti-Christ... but numerology does. Because 144000 = 666 numerologically. They both equal 9. In some numerological systems, 9 represents Christ consciousness, not Christian consciousness but the spirit of self-salvation and self-empowerment (the opposite of Christianity). When the Catholic Church says anti-Christ, they mean anti-Christian - anti-Christ-Catholic-Version. So the anti-Christ is the spirit of self-salvation, which archetypally has been associated with the creative force and the sun. 144,000 is a symbolic number, meant to represent 9. 666 is the number of the "Beast" Apollyon - or the Morning Star, Apollo, the archetypal spirit of creativity in ancient Greece. 666 also equals 9. So the anti-Christ is what comes to destroy religion and Christianity - the evolved spirits. "The 9's." Avatars of the creative force - multiple Yashua's.

ghostrider
5th June 2011, 05:42
twelve tribes of Israel/Jacob is correct. Sealed IN their forheads/minds a mark from God, the right flank in the final battle. hidden on the mountain from the anti-christ and the armies of heaven came down and the son of man leading them and out of his mouth goeth a sharp two edged sword( WORDS) CUTTING EITHER WAY THEY'RE ARE USED.

PurpleLama
5th June 2011, 13:38
It has been my understanding that 12 x 12 x 1000 is a numerological representation of infinity.

bennycog
5th June 2011, 14:22
144000 souls apparently go to heaven in the revelations of the bible..
i have seen that number quite a bit lately actually in tv and movies..
got to be code for something..

sunnyrap
5th June 2011, 15:13
My understanding is that apparent individual living persons are projections of consciousness all connected to single over-souls (for lack of a better description)--kind of like the vast cluster of cells that make up one living body. So, 144,000 could be the number of 'over-souls' here that will return to the God head.

Snowbird
5th June 2011, 19:49
These two sites discuss the 144,000 but not from a biblical perspective. Very interesting. I believe that the SSOA stands for the Spiritual School of Ascension.

The Idea of 144,000

So, the 144,000 in the SSOA-context is referring to the number of human lineages that are supposed to be present in the world today. A lineage could be viewed (as far as I understand it now) as a genetic connection between you and your ancestors, all the way back to the first seedings of mankind.

http://home.tiscali.nl/~gibbon/exploring/144.htm


Lords of the 7 - Tha 144,000

http://144000gz.blogspot.com/2011/04/scienctists-now-talking-about-dna.html

shadowstalker
5th June 2011, 19:51
These two sites discuss the 144,000 but not from a biblical perspective. Very interesting. I believe that the SSOA stands for the Spiritual School of Ascension.

The Idea of 144,000

So, the 144,000 in the SSOA-context is referring to the number of human lineages that are supposed to be present in the world today. A lineage could be viewed (as far as I understand it now) as a genetic connection between you and your ancestors, all the way back to the first seedings of mankind.

http://home.tiscali.nl/~gibbon/exploring/144.htm


Lords of the 7 - Tha 144,000

http://144000gz.blogspot.com/2011/04/scienctists-now-talking-about-dna.html

Wow thankyou for finding that,

Kerrigan
5th June 2011, 22:46
Very interesting link Snowbird!

I'd like to add something to this quote for the first link:

"Every person would have at least a connection to 25 lineages when they the body is being constructed in the womb. Every lineage has experiences and often loads of karma attached to it. The idea of ascension is to release the karma stuck to your lineages (...)"

As an unborn baby, we carry the genetic baggage, physical, and emotional of our ancestors. The stains left by trauma/experience are carried by the newborn, unconscious of it, and as he grow, his own emotions also shape his genetics. Knowing yourself IS an intense journey, to be conscious and aware of ourselves is already a heavy task, but to understand greater ourselves, we must know the history of our ancestors to dig deeper in our own unconscious. Indeed, great quote =)

So, it all boils down to the missing link.... could the missing link please stand up!? :alien:

Ok, sorry for that, :focus:

Midnight Rambler
5th June 2011, 23:04
http://www.code144.com/news/the-return-of-code-144/

Midnight Rambler
5th June 2011, 23:49
Why do you ask this question, if I may ask?

Artemesia
6th June 2011, 00:05
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"Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the servants of God on their foreheads." And I heard the number of the sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:

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I've seen discussion of this seal elsewhere, and I've come to understand that its likely talking about sealing the third eye, closing off insight, therefore the understanding that we are connected to the Earth, of Earth (while we are inhabiting Earth bodies made of Earth's body matter) and therefore the sea and trees and Earth herself are our kin. Only if you are totally sealed off from this insight would you go around harming the trees, sea and Earth.

Which brings us to the accomplishment of the 20th century. Vast numbers whose third eyes are sealed, and thus the destruction of the Earth, seas and trees became commonplace, blatent, etc.

Luckily the eye is opening.

Thanks for the rest of this article. Now it all makes sense why I thought I was the anti-Christ in my weirder moments of kundalini awakening/spiritual emergency in 2009. Too bad it freaked my husband out and landed me in the loony bin for a week while everyone calmed their Catholic programming down. Funny the way it is........

Anno
6th June 2011, 00:30
I'll have to look it up to get you a quote but I'm pretty sure that's one of the numbers Graham Hancock says are hidden throughout myths and religions all over the world as it is one of the numbers you need to calculate the precession of the equinoxes.

There are a few numbers including the circumference of the earth, that appear in all sorts of 'texts' that have a given meaning. As this thread is showing. The theory Hancock talks about (that I think came from someone else) states that all the myth meanings serve as a carrier for the numbers, so that when society reaches the point of being able to recognise those numbers, they'll realise there's a hidden message about the precession and decode it.

It's in Fingerprints of the Gods. I'll have a look for a quote and get back to you. =]

Darla Ken Pearce
6th June 2011, 00:39
Some additional thoughts ~ there are 144,000 acupuncture sites on a human body. The Earth may have these corresponding ley-lines in her energy field, as well.

The old 666 anti-christ number is our carbon based body and the new lightbody we are creating at this time which is crystalline. I have always thought of the "mark" on the forehead as possibly being those who are able to fully open their third eyes. This might be referred to as a "mark" or "opened eye."

Stranger things have happened. These are words others are using in an attempt to describe what they are seeing in a vision. Strawberry marks on the forehead are genetic, many possibilities exist about what this sign might mean.

A lady named, Helen Engles, who teaches telepathy is gathering together 144,000 members of an Earth Ground Crew and asking for those so inclined to become members working on such issues as (1) Feeding the hungry, (2) new technology, free energy and others (3) Crystal communicators. You can pick any area that is of interest to you. Here is the group: http://groups.google.com/group/144000groundcrew/topics

We need to try not to get hooked into 3D duality black and white issues and expand our vista out into new dimensions just because we can now and are free to do so. Most of our barriers and limitations come from our own belief systems which need to be changing and cannot remain static, if we want to move forward.

For instance, to fully leave behind duality ~ practice looking at issues from many different sides. Find some new ones and advocate them in your own mind. Defend them or question them in new ways not the old ones that haven't worked well or at all for us. The ones that LIMIT us to 3D need expansion, so that new dimensions come into manifestation. Alternatives and cracks in time to move into on our journey as we move forth.

In this manner, it becomes much easier to move into other higher dimensions without pain and agony. There are no locks on 3D except those you are creating yourself. All Stargates are open and available. When this becomes easier we are many steps ahead of the old ways that have surely failed us by now. It's just something (fun and interesting) to consider and I believe it smooths our way forward much like greasing the skids with water, so food will move down the esophageal pipeline to your stomach without getting stuck.

When we get "stuck" in our own minds, there is usually a part of our body that is also correspondingly "stuck." This is not what we want nor is it desirable for our wellbeing.

We are looking for a system that moves swiftly and with unity of purpose like a human body but better as in the new lightbody we are evolving into ~ composed of crystals that we are becoming... Don't be afraid to do this alone or with friends. By that I mean consider these other things for a change. Stop using the old constructs!

Much love! xoxoxoxo

Artemesia
6th June 2011, 02:06
So as a related number, does anyone find 141 coming up, once you start contemplating the 144,000?

Someoneson1
6th June 2011, 13:21
I heard a version of the walls of jerico being brought down by seven vibrational frequencys being played over seven days and it gave way to the Possibility that 144,000 may just be a frequency obtained when one reaches enlightenment.

A 144,000 acupuncture points in the human body??? Neat. To become naked or clean may imply wholeness without fear. Hmmm... raising vibrational frequency???

Steven
6th June 2011, 14:15
It can mean anything... It also comes from the judeo-christian culture.

Officially, the church says it is the product of: 12 x 12000. Where the first 12 means the 12 tribes of Israel. The second means 12000 people of each tribes. See Revelation 7:3-8 .

But... Can it be trusted, knowing how often the bible has been manipulated. 12 means completion in the judeo-christian symbolism. 1000 means a multitude. It looks like a metaphorical way to say the descendants of these tribes will inherit the New Earth. But... I do not think it tags the judeo-christian bloodline, but the judeo-christian 'in spirit', if it means anything.

On the other hand, for the Mayan, 12 is not the number of completion, but 13. No wonder why the judeo-christian leaders made of 13 a bad luck number (see the day the templars got chased by the french King :) ), its all the opposite!

So, I do not give much importance to it, personnally it looks like a misleading bait.

Namaste, Steven

Jayke
6th June 2011, 16:44
I heard a version of the walls of jerico being brought down by seven vibrational frequencys being played over seven days and it gave way to the Possibility that 144,000 may just be a frequency obtained when one reaches enlightenment

spot on buddy, our ancient ancestors believed 144,000 was the speed of light, the pulse or heartbeat of the universe, harmonics of 144,000 such as 72 play an important role in lots of the sacred geometry our ancestors used to build the great wonders like the pyramid.

http://www.numberscience.plus.com/sf72.html

1= symbol of a phallus, represents the masculine energy, the light that penetrates the earth and impregnates life in the womb of mother (matter)
4= original symbology was four lines put together in a square to represent the 4 elements, air, fire, earth and water

put two squares on top of each other and you get a symbol that looks like an 8
8= the symbol of infinity, immortality

0= completion in rest
three 0's next to each other could represent the completion of the father, son and the holy spirit,bringing the mind, body and spirit back into a state of rest within the heartbeat of the universe.

1+4+4=9

9 = original symbol was the spiral represents completing the work, ready for a new level of experience, what we might call enlightenment.

service2others
3rd July 2013, 12:39
The frequency required to escape the cycles of incarnation here on Earth. The "song " is the vibration or frequency talked about in the Bible. raise your vibration and you're outta here. Bruce Cathie has been writing books on anti-gravity and light harmonics for more than 30 years.
He believes that the universe is based on harmonic series such as 72, 144, 432. And 144 (a "C" tone in hertz) is a perfect harmonic of the speed of light, which is 144,000 nautical miles (144,000 minutes of arc per Earth grid second) in the vacuum of space. Each of these harmonics are literally a mirror, or a cascade of mirrors within mirrors, that 8 hz can look into. For example 144 is 18 x 8 hz, and 72 is 9 x 8 hz. The way that light travels in space is thus a 144 decimal harmonic (144:144,000),

Cidersomerset
3rd July 2013, 13:21
144 000 seems to be the very significant......I have posted many posts about
this subject.Its to do with the completion of the human cell back to its perfect
ascended state. The position before the human god fell from non-physical bliss to
mortal meat sack body to experience contrast. We are now coming back into our
knowledge and power of this state of of affairs.

The aim this time is although we are all eternal entities, we are trying to recreate
the perfect cell thru the 144'000 double strands of prefect DNA to be replicated
indefinitely thru the RNA that creates perfect copies of DNA indefinitely thus we do
not age and can experience the contrast of this physical form.

In our non-physical state we experience bliss and have all knowing and can
manifest , but we cannot create...Ie build something, eat ,drink have sex, die even.
Which is great but a bit boring over eons and is why we descended in the first
place. The aim is to live forever in the physical.

Though as we are all individual Human creators its upto each of us whether we
want to embrace this or carryon going to the 'Guf' (Hebrew heaven) and carrying
on the life and death cycle...


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11th May 2012


BOB , James and Carolyn explaining Assencion....144double helix's, chromozone 14, RNA



This is the first show in the new version of cash flow with Bob, James,Dr.Carolyn
Dean and Ion ( not on this show)...
They have changed the show time to Thurs evening 7.00pm PT, which translates
to 'stupid o'clock' in the morning GMT, 3am I think...

26mins into the first part of tonights show Bob starts explaining the the relevence of
the changing of the cells for assencion in relation to 144 double helix's chromozone 14
and the significance of RNA drops, and its relationship to the book of Revelations
which is the 1st book of the bible and Gennesis which is the last, its a interresting
segment thru till the end.....

Its also a good time for anyone to start listening and catch up with them......

http://www.achieveradio.com/archplay...-Cash_Flow.mp3



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44999-BOB-James-and-Carolyn-explaining-Assencion....144double-helix-s-chromozone-14-RNA

Prodigal Son
3rd July 2013, 13:49
I have always thought of the "mark" on the forehead as possibly being those who are able to fully open their third eyes. This might be referred to as a "mark" or "opened eye."


In Gnostic Kabbalah it is just the opposite. The mark represents a blockage of the third eye.. and it is called the "mark of the beast" because someone with a blocked third eye would be considered a "beast" or someone who has given up their godlike intuition to live strictly for pleasure....

http://gnosticteachings.org/courses/daath-the-tree-of-knowledge/703-daath-the-doorway-to-knowledge-3.html


This is that quiet voice inside, that when you are about to do something wrong, tells you, “you shouldn’t do that—you really shouldn’t do that.” That is the conscience that is showing you that you still have that spark of goodness struggling to stay alive. But if you ignore your conscience and instead you listen to your friends and the tv, and to all the music and bands and movies, then you will continue to drink, to fornicate, to commit adultery, to do drugs, and to do all the things you can to destroy your body and to fortify Cain. Eventually, the voice of Tob will be dead; there will be no conscience at all. What will remain is a mind (Cain), that simply loves pleasure, and that is it—no conscience, no sense of right and wrong, no regret, no guilt.

Classically, a person who has reached this stage is called a “demon.” In the strictest terms, a demon is someone who has been divorced from their own Inner God. They can be recognized very simply: they have no conscience. They do not recognize goodness for what it is, they do not care about it, and instead love to follow Ra, the impure spirit within them.

Such a person has received a psychological seal, a mark, discussed in the Book of Revelation. The end letter of Daath is Tav, which means seal or mark, but there are two ways we can be marked: with the mark of the beast or with the Seal of the Living God.


I find it very interesting that the Catholic Church marks all their people on Ash Wednesday which I suspect is mocking them as slaves in subjection, regardless of whatever their official dogmatic reason for it might be. In the Revelation prophecy, only those "having the mark" are allowed to buy and sell because they worship the image of the beast, which tells me that those who do not have the mark would refuse to worship the image or somehow be exempt from the slave system to be imposed by the NWO (8th King).

Regarding the 144,000....

http://gnosticteachings.org/courses/transformation-of-energy/687-the-five-causes-of-illness-transcription.html


The Seal of God

The seal of God is directly related with the heart. If you inquire about the seal of God, you find that in Kabbalah it is related with the Star of David. Yet, the six pointed star is not a patrimony solely of the Jewish religion, since you can find the Star of David or the six pointed star in many religions. I.e. in Hinduism, you find that star connected with the Anahata chakra (the heart chakra). This star is a phallic symbol. The two testicles and the phallus make a triangle, and the two ovaries and the uterus make another triangle. If you unite both triangles, then you have the Star of David, through which the Nous atom works in order to place the seal of God in our foreheads.

Sequentially, the Book of Revelation states:

And I heard the number of them which were sealed (of the chosen ones): and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. – Revelation 7:4

In Kabbalah, 144,000 relates to the Hebrew letters “Aleph, Daleth, and Mem” of the name Adam. Every Hebrew letter has a numerical value: Aleph is the number one; Daleth is the number four; Mem is forty. So, 1 + 4 + 40, plus the two zeros of man and woman. Together, this makes 144,000.

The zeros are related with the three brains of the two entities: the woman and the man united by the nine. Because without the woman, or without the man, we cannot make that seal. Yes, the sexual union is necessary in order to create the androgynous Adam; because Adam is not masculine or feminine but androgynous. The Hebrew word “Adam” is androgynous.

So, in order to be “a sealed one,” a chosen one, you have to know how to handle the six-pointed seal of God. For this, the Innermost has to enter into the initiation through the Nous Atom. The Nous Atom has to go down to the ninth sphere (144,000 = 9) in order to transform, in order to awaken his twelve powers (of all the tribes of the children – atoms- of Ish-Ra-El – the fire of the God RA, the Logos).

Edit:

Just pulled this off wiki article on Ash Wednesday (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Wednesday) ... interesting... they don't even try to hide what they're doing... just continues along the lines of "you are nothing compared to God" ... "there is a vast chasm and unbridgeable gulf between you and the Creator".... and "you are a lowlife sinner in need of a Savior because somebody ate an apple 6,000 years ago"....


Ash Wednesday derives its name from the practice of placing ashes on the foreheads of adherents as a celebration and reminder of human mortality, and as a sign of mourning and repentance to God.

kenaz
4th July 2013, 02:51
Here's Michael Tsarion's take on 666 and 144,000 (regarding the Book of Revelation starts at 9:30).
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