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Bright Garlick
6th June 2011, 02:16
I would like to remind people of a small but significant fact and elaborate on the needs of so called disclosure.
The Powers that Be have since the early 80's looked at the future responses of humans to the issues of genuine disclosure about a range of topics - including the alien presence and true history of Earth. I have had conversations with 1 of those involved and it was noted by them that the reason it will not happen is because of the extremes of responses - which include further division (ie. humans against humans), attempts to create new control systems and extreme violence.
I would urge you to use the insight you have gained from the recent events in PA, to see the reality of human nature. These events are but a microcosm of the wider human world. For the most part we are an infantile, gullible and irrational species that lack the ability to discern with feeling and with the mind. Disclosure has been happening in it's own way and will continue to happen in incremental/homeopathic shifts. Don't expect everything all at once. Humans as a species cannot handle the truth. Look at the events here for evidence of how people respond to truths and half truths and ongoing deceptions and attempts at telling the truth. The truth is a many faced chimera - illusory and subject to the stability of the mind and heart.
This place is a good example of how there are few well developed souls and many seekers. Among the crowd there are many who become spiritual egos, who talk loud but understand little. Choose your own path. Light your own way. Don't look to others to liberate you about the TRUTH.
There is at present many in the ufo/alienology fields who seek to distort reality and others who are deluded. Many who believe that aliens are here to hurt or use us, unaware of how they have nurtured our species and our planet. They wait patiently, with no agenda, ready for what we are and what we will become. They accept humans as we are now - with no improvement.
Use discernment to think critically about the seeming truths fed to you by those who talk about aliens and their devious ways. That is not the arrow of evolution. It does not go backwards.
For those who wish contact with aliens and real disclosure - cure your own hearts and minds of delusion and the constraints of sleeping egos. Earn what you deserve, rather than expecting it from others. The aliens recognize where we are at and how we delude ourselves. They give as they can, when we are ready. It is humans who hold back on the issue of disclosure, for fear of unleashing hell from within the human species.
The truth can only be found in you. For you are the universe within and without. Does it matter that the governments have secret projects or plans to reduce the population or secret technologies that draw upon endless energies ?
What I feel matters most is how we live our own truths, rather than how we live seeking others truths !
Be a light unto yourself, as the great man of compassion once said. When we all turn the light inwards, there is nothing left to disclose, except the radiance of being.
:panda:
D-Day
6th June 2011, 05:04
Sorry Bright Garlick but I cannot agree completely with your perspective here. That said, I do agree that for those of us who are awake, aware and spiritually enlightened that your point of view has merit. However, my concern is for those among us who are going about their lives completely oblivious to the true nature of the world around them.
IMO full disclosure of our human history and of the ET presence on this planet is EXACTLY what is required in order for our species to progress from where we are now (and have been in the past) to what I believe we are destined to become in the near future. In fact, I think it's most likely THE ONLY THING that will awaken the people of this planet enough to enable them to bring about the kind of change that is required for them to achieve that potential.
Honestly, how do you expect the majority of the people on this planet (the sleepy ones) to achieve their true potential when the vast majority of them have literally no idea whatsoever about WHO OR WHAT THEY TRULY ARE? I believe the policy of non-disclosure by our governments is holding us back and unfortunately the majority of the people on this planet are TOTALLY reliant upon their governments/authorities/media/institutions for providing them with the information they use to guide them on their journeys here.
I would say that most people here at PA are pretty well aware (more than most at least) of what's really been going on in our universe and that is very comforting to me. The problem is that we (and others like us) represent an EXTREMELY small minority group on this planet and in my opinion THAT is what needs to change if we are to move forward as a species.
So, do you see now why government implemented disclosure is so vital to us at this pivotal time in our existence? Surely you cannot disagree that more than anything else right now we need to expose the MAJORITY of people of this planet to the light of truth and allow them to see for themselves the TRUE nature of this reality... at least then they will be able to make INFORMED DECISIONS about where they want to go with their lives, who they want to become, how they want to get there etc etc.
POST EDIT:
Just thought I'd also add that I have been researching this stuff for a long time, I take a keen interest in exopolitics, I have read books like A.D 'After Disclosure' and have watched documentaries like 'The Day Before Disclosure', all of which have helped me to develop a broad understanding of the potential socio-economic impacts of a government-led disclosure event - so I'm not coming at this from the perspective of a total newbie. I don't for one moment disagree with you about the fact that such a disclosure would undoubtedly result in massive upheaval within our society, but might I suggest that maybe that's exactly what we need at this point in time...
The One
6th June 2011, 05:21
This place is a good example of how there are few well developed souls and many seekers. Among the crowd there are many who become spiritual egos, who talk loud but understand little. Choose your own path. Light your own way. Don't look to others to liberate you about the TRUTH.
It dosent matter how little or much you know.People may post threads on here and understand very little but every little contribution helps.I am a truthseeker seek the truth.I can usually decide fact from fiction
Many people have come along saying this and that and pretending to be somebody that are not.I follow nobody .I follow my own path and leave a trail.Disclosure is already here
pharoah21
6th June 2011, 05:41
I would like to remind people of a small but significant fact and elaborate on the needs of so called disclosure.
The Powers that Be have since the early 80's looked at the future responses of humans to the issues of genuine disclosure about a range of topics - including the alien presence and true history of Earth. I have had conversations with 1 of those involved and it was noted by them that the reason it will not happen is because of the extremes of responses - which include further division (ie. humans against humans), attempts to create new control systems and extreme violence.
I would urge you to use the insight you have gained from the recent events in PA, to see the reality of human nature. These events are but a microcosm of the wider human world. For the most part we are an infantile, gullible and irrational species that lack the ability to discern with feeling and with the mind. Disclosure has been happening in it's own way and will continue to happen in incremental/homeopathic shifts. Don't expect everything all at once. Humans as a species cannot handle the truth. Look at the events here for evidence of how people respond to truths and half truths and ongoing deceptions and attempts at telling the truth. The truth is a many faced chimera - illusory and subject to the stability of the mind and heart.
This place is a good example of how there are few well developed souls and many seekers. Among the crowd there are many who become spiritual egos, who talk loud but understand little. Choose your own path. Light your own way. Don't look to others to liberate you about the TRUTH.
There is at present many in the ufo/alienology fields who seek to distort reality and others who are deluded. Many who believe that aliens are here to hurt or use us, unaware of how they have nurtured our species and our planet. They wait patiently, with no agenda, ready for what we are and what we will become. They accept humans as we are now - with no improvement.
Use discernment to think critically about the seeming truths fed to you by those who talk about aliens and their devious ways. That is not the arrow of evolution. It does not go backwards.
For those who wish contact with aliens and real disclosure - cure your own hearts and minds of delusion and the constraints of sleeping egos. Earn what you deserve, rather than expecting it from others. The aliens recognize where we are at and how we delude ourselves. They give as they can, when we are ready. It is humans who hold back on the issue of disclosure, for fear of unleashing hell from within the human species.
The truth can only be found in you. For you are the universe within and without. Does it matter that the governments have secret projects or plans to reduce the population or secret technologies that draw upon endless energies ?
What I feel matters most is how we live our own truths, rather than how we live seeking others truths !
Be a light unto yourself, as the great man of compassion once said. When we all turn the light inwards, there is nothing left to disclose, except the radiance of being.
:panda:
Great thread, I believe everything you've said.
Thank you.
Etherios
6th June 2011, 12:06
I would like to remind people of a small but significant fact and elaborate on the needs of so called disclosure.
The Powers that Be have since the early 80's looked at the future responses of humans to the issues of genuine disclosure about a range of topics - including the alien presence and true history of Earth. I have had conversations with 1 of those involved and it was noted by them that the reason it will not happen is because of the extremes of responses - which include further division (ie. humans against humans), attempts to create new control systems and extreme violence.
So the self proclaimed prophecy is achieved? So the the last 30+ years what these people have done? Made humans - more fanatic - more stupid - more dependent to them - more aggressive - less spiritual - more debt slave - etc etc (i can go one for pages). And now you agree? Good for you...
I would urge you to use the insight you have gained from the recent events in PA, to see the reality of human nature. These events are but a microcosm of the wider human world. For the most part we are an infantile, gullible and irrational species that lack the ability to discern with feeling and with the mind. Disclosure has been happening in it's own way and will continue to happen in incremental/homeopathic shifts. Don't expect everything all at once. Humans as a species cannot handle the truth. Look at the events here for evidence of how people respond to truths and half truths and ongoing deceptions and attempts at telling the truth. The truth is a many faced chimera - illusory and subject to the stability of the mind and heart.
This place is a good example of how there are few well developed souls and many seekers. Among the crowd there are many who become spiritual egos, who talk loud but understand little. Choose your own path. Light your own way. Don't look to others to liberate you about the TRUTH.
There is at present many in the ufo/alienology fields who seek to distort reality and others who are deluded. Many who believe that aliens are here to hurt or use us, unaware of how they have nurtured our species and our planet. They wait patiently, with no agenda, ready for what we are and what we will become. They accept humans as we are now - with no improvement.
So let me get this right. The people that kill slaughter poison radiate steal ... etc etc from the 90% of the human race are well developed and are taking the planet in their hands judging that we, the rest idiots, are too primitive and undeveloped to have a choice? You are judging the egos of the few people in here? So the egos of TPTB are excuses cause they are better than us right? THEY know what to do...
Also the aliens nurtured us? WHAT IS THAT? if they wanted to nurture us remove TPTB 100 years ago from the power and let us EVOLVE (not devolve like we are doing now). No agenda? We have been messed up by alliens since the start of our race (not to say we might be the creation of some aliens "for what?").
Use discernment to think critically about the seeming truths fed to you by those who talk about aliens and their devious ways. That is not the arrow of evolution. It does not go backwards.
For those who wish contact with aliens and real disclosure - cure your own hearts and minds of delusion and the constraints of sleeping egos. Earn what you deserve, rather than expecting it from others. The aliens recognize where we are at and how we delude ourselves. They give as they can, when we are ready. It is humans who hold back on the issue of disclosure, for fear of unleashing hell from within the human species.
The truth can only be found in you. For you are the universe within and without. Does it matter that the governments have secret projects or plans to reduce the population or secret technologies that draw upon endless energies ?
What I feel matters most is how we live our own truths, rather than how we live seeking others truths !
Be a light unto yourself, as the great man of compassion once said. When we all turn the light inwards, there is nothing left to disclose, except the radiance of being.
:panda:
So the arrow of evolution is to die? to devolve to a pathetic slave race? Cause thats what TPTB want to do to us. I dont know your connections or your "friends" connection with them but EVEN if we fight and tear our selves apart cause of "disclosure" what will be left is far better than what we have now or will have in the near future. You need to stop fooling your self and see this from all angles. If you just listen to their thinking you will agree with them but there is ALWAYS another way. Small duration big mess or everlasting duration small "obvious" mess? i choose the first cause after things will have to change.
So plz stop dividing people to seeks their personal truths ONLY... we are 1 race 1 people ... 1 planet. We cant be isolated to our little own bubble worlds. Thats what TPTB want ...
IF the human race was left to evolve without the brain washing and the rest ... you would never believe your eyes and what we would had become. THE HUMANS RACE isnt what you think. We are trained to be like this since before we are born. Cut that training off the the world changes INSTANTLY - Painlessly.
p.s. the more i see this post the more i get the feeling this is just some kind of propaganda ... it sadenss me to see people still accepting the elites point of view. pitty
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Just thought I'd also add that I have been researching this stuff for a long time, I take a keen interest in exopolitics, I have read books like A.D 'After Disclosure' and have watched documentaries like 'The Day Before Disclosure', all of which have helped me to develop a broad understanding of the potential socio-economic impacts of a government-led disclosure event - so I'm not coming at this from the perspective of a total newbie. I don't for one moment disagree with you about the fact that such a disclosure would undoubtedly result in massive upheaval within our society, but might I suggest that maybe that's exactly what we need at this point in time...
Couldnt agree more ... that seems to be the only way to break the brainwashing and the little dream bubble worlds each person has created ignoring anything outside this small narrow viewpoint.
Carmen
6th June 2011, 12:12
A excellent post Bright Garlick, I agree with you. Self knowledge, self responsibility. Evolution, ever onward, faster, brighter, knowing and growing. Glowing.
Etherios
6th June 2011, 12:58
A excellent post Bright Garlick, I agree with you. Self knowledge, self responsibility. Evolution, ever onward, faster, brighter, knowing and growing. Glowing.
Self knowledge? How? Knowing and growing how?
i am sure many in these forums are still (and will be in the near future) unable to talk to their higher self or to experience this self knowledge. Imagine the people that still live in their own little bubble worlds. Dont you guys care about your fellow humans? Have we "evolve" so far that we only care about what will happen in the future lifes and we dont care about now? or we just care about our spirit and we dont mind loosing our body and the bodies of our fellow humans?
Weird ... i am very very very far from that spot still ... I guess you guys are the only ones that deserve to survive and evolve humanity to a better tomorrow.
mountain_jim
6th June 2011, 16:28
All in my view and feeling:
It's time for The Truth to be outed. All those still sleeping are assets for the Dark, and no help for changing things for the better.
I work on increasing my Light, and my spiritual connection, but for the sake of our Mother Earth and for the changes needed for Humanity I Envision and Will Disclosure of Truth in this reality every day and in every way.
Those that want of their own free will to ignore, deny, or avoid Truth - can try. But it's past time for the Wake-UP Call and I feel it is coming on strong and soon.
The sleepers will just have to DEAL WITH IT. In the long run it will be for the best.
carebear2
6th June 2011, 16:42
IF the human race was left to evolve without the brain washing and the rest ... you would never believe your eyes and what we would had become. THE HUMANS RACE isnt what you think. We are trained to be like this since before we are born. Cut that training off the the world changes INSTANTLY - Painlessly.
I agree with you on your posts but I have a question. What are we or what would we of been? I agree we need full discloser instead of turning us crazy with the rubbish they tell us.
Etherios
6th June 2011, 19:08
The sleepers will just have to DEAL WITH IT. In the long run it will be for the best.
THey keep say that the human race adapts and evolves till it consumes everything in its path like a cancer... BAH guess what release us from this sleep and we will adapt and not destroy our selves. Keep us sleeping and its your fault where we end up ... simple right?
I agree with you in the end even if its painful at the start we will survive and we will see a better future for our children. Now? I dont think we will make it ... maybe the energy waves or somethings wakes the society up.
P.s. i got a reply from a scientist friend of mine (she is working with electromagnetism) and she replied to me about the 9/11 BBC broadcast where they said building 7 is down 25 minutes before it fell. " More from You-Tube, Top musicains murdered by secret world organisation the illuminati and David Ike who believes we are ruled by a group of alien lizards". ANYTHING on youtube is fake. ANything .... even if you can see the same on news paper or TV ... if you show it to her from Youtube its fake. o.O ---- How can she wake up? A huge slap in the face (metaphoricaly ofc)... only way
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I agree with you on your posts but I have a question. What are we or what would we of been? I agree we need full discloser instead of turning us crazy with the rubbish they tell us.
Well who can be 100% sure? I dont even think Bill is 100% sure... we only have hypothesies and some realities. For example we are not just this flesh and bones. We are eternal should using this vessels right i hope we agree on this. Now who or how we were made, who these eternal souls are/came from, what powers we all really have ... and many other questions we can never be sure.
Maybe if full disclosure happens we can start to answer these step by step. If it doesnt happen ... we will never found out cause we will be worse than chimps
I agree with you on your posts but I have a question. What are we or what would we of been? I agree we need full discloser instead of turning us crazy with the rubbish they tell us.
Carmen
6th June 2011, 19:53
No no, Etherios, nobody is left behind. This is not a them and us scenerio. Im no more enlightened than anyone else here. The GodSelf is within every human waiting to be realized. Ive probably been on the journey a bit longer than you. Well, looking at your age, a whole lot longer, but I started my realizations at your age and have been reading, studying, applying, experimenting ever since. Nobody is left behind in this journey of souls (well not according to me). I just feel the changes and have a feeling of going home. Of something happening and something pregnant with promise. Its like a building of energy, of momentum. Sounds a bit weird I know, but none of the negative crap gets to me much anymore. I dont fear anything, or anybody, and its a nice way to be.This building of light, energy, whatever is also available to the rest of my friends and family. Its sort of contagious!! So, in that regard, it helps lift everybody. By the same token, if we read study pay attention to only the negative thats what we empower and re-create. That doesnt mean being ignorant of the ghastly stuff happening in the world but to focus on that excusively, adds to it. Our thought 'matter' in every moment. Its like water in a river, a fast flowing river. It just giggles round the rocks and carries on. The rocks (the negative stuff) cannot stop the water of spiritual advancement.
My advice to you to re-connect with your own GodSelf is to take time alone, to clear the mind and just 'be'. And to do that every single day without fail. That can be in the middle of the night if days are full. Make time. Focus of any sort is excellent. Start posing questions to your inner Self. It will eventually answer you. Read spiritual books. Study them. Many of the books I started out with I could barely understand, but I persisted and eventually the truths came from them. Books like "The Life and Teachings of the Masters of the Far East" by Baird Spalding. "The Door of Everything" by Ruby Nelson. "The Starseed Transmissions" by Raphael. Barbara Marciniaks books. Ramtha "The White Book" These books I read and read and re-read and each time I understood deeper and better.
Get stuck in, dont be scared to make mistakes. Because we learn from everything and everyone. People get so mesmirised by thinking they have to do only the right thing that they dont do anything. Be a spiritual revolutionary. Go for it and dont let anything or anyone hold you back.
Cheers
Carmen
nomadguy
6th June 2011, 20:33
hmm, interesting,
here's something that came to me while reading this,
If there are truly people out there that are, telepathic...
Then it is possible for regular unconnected people, to gleen the secrets and share them in their own way.
~And to add, that people's consciousness ~being open, would enable this to occur ~in a natural and unplanned sort of way. So that no one had devised the peering in on another's secrets and would not receive any sort of repercussion that might come from trying to read minds or something. I see it also possible that certain PTB individuals may want to cause this to occur so that they are out of the task. And can get on with other things.
Carmen
6th June 2011, 20:46
Secrets are not able to be kept in advanced societies because everyone can read anyones energy field. Its an open book. Advanced people have nothing to hide. They have dealt with all their issues, accepted themselves as they are and love themSelves and all of humanity which at the deeper level is themSelf. Notice how secrets are all starting to come out now nomadguy. The energy we are receiving here on earth causes among other things, a revealing of all that is hidden. Telepathy is a given. We just have to 'know' it and use it.
stegosaur
6th June 2011, 20:53
So the general population isn't fit to know the truth, but unelected psychopaths who literally rig the world economy in such a way that billions live in extreme poverty are fit to know the truth?
Also where would the violence be coming from? Followers of devout religions who cannot accept the true history of mankind? Maybe TPTB shouldn't have created the religions to suppress spiritual growth, incite violence and encourage blind faith and obedience while suspending rational thought.
Or maybe the people who have all been screwed by the oil and gas industry - maybe people, like in the Niger delta, will be a tinge angry when they hear that oil was never needed, there was no need for all the pollution, corruption and violence to come uninvited into their corner of the world.
In short, the argument that humanity is too primitive to accept the truth is bunk. Are humans intrinsically prone to mob violence, or has the game been rigged for century after century for humans to behave this way in a stressful situation.
You site PA as being an example of why disclosure can't happen but we did get it right eventually didn't we? Sure Charles took us for a left turn, got us off the interstate and into the backwoods, but we're back baby! Of course disclosure is going to be a turbulent time - and if it wasn't then I'd say THERE IS something seriously wrong with humanity. But let's not sell ourselves short. The Japanese didn't turn into looting animals in the face of resource problems after the EQ and it was a giant surprise to everyone because all other places always loot after a disaster.
stegosaur
6th June 2011, 20:59
Secrets are not able to be kept in advanced societies because everyone can read anyones energy field. Its an open book. Advanced people have nothing to hide. They have dealt with all their issues, accepted themselves as they are and love themSelves and all of humanity which at the deeper level is themSelf. Notice how secrets are all starting to come out now nomadguy. The energy we are receiving here on earth causes among other things, a revealing of all that is hidden. Telepathy is a given. We just have to 'know' it and use it.
Carmen how experienced are you with telepathy? I don't doubt humans have the ability but I haven't the foggiest idea how to 'use it' as you said.
In another thread, Bill said it's possible to telepathically communicate with the soul of a pet after death. This way you can arrange for the soul of whatever pet you lost to come back to a specific time, location, breeder etc. so owner and dog can be reunited. Made me happy to hear it's possible, but that happiness turned to angst when I realized I have no idea how to telepathically communicate with my dog (he's still alive and well, I'm just preparing for when we lose him, no matter how far into the future that is).
I try to sit by my dog to communicate with him telepathically. I'll sit down and close my eyes and try and first let him know how much I love him and how happy he makes me. I usually do this by trying to concentrate on the overwhelming feeling of happiness I feel when I come home from work and he gives me a royal welcome. But then I realized I had no idea if this was reaching him and no idea how to find out. I then though I'd try to communicate a command telepathically to see if he was 'hearing me' So then I concentrated on a mental image of him standing and then sitting down but when I opened my eyes he had run out to the backyard and was looking for his ball.
Any suggestions on how to use this gift?
Carmen
6th June 2011, 21:41
Well stegosaur, does not your dog communicate non verbally when it is hungry? It may be mostly his body language to you, but he is also communicating telepathically. Its a matter of paying attention, of stilling the mind. Doubt is the biggest killer of all our inbuilt but unused (or unused to) telepathic abilities. Im certainly no expert and its still hit and miss, but I am getting more telepathic communication with animals and people by just being present and having a clear mind. If our minds are full of thought, beliefs, doubt, there is just no room, no gap, for anything subtle to come in. Keep at it, passion and desire is the fuel to eventually manifest that which we desire to have or do. Also, keep at it. Nothing is achieved without practice. Never stop and never give up.
Bright Garlick
7th June 2011, 02:30
This is my one final post here. I don't usually let venom fly, I am a compassionate person and Buddhist.
Today I found out that cancer has returned to my body - I don't know if I'll live or die. So I want to say one last thing.
Those of you who seek answers outwardly, will never find truth. Those who seek inwardly will feel truth. Those of you who believe aliens are bad, don't get it because you are sheep and can't feel and reason with discerning wisdom. STOP FOLLOWING FOOLS. Those of you who believe that TPTB are all bad, also don't get it,. They are not one homogenous group. They are many arms and not all connected. The aliens are the ones who have greatest overall control of how things move but it is human idiots who reshape ciivilization and each one of us who make day to day choices about how to live and the world we create.
As i understand reality - There is no self. There is the illusion of self. I and Emptiness. Consciousness is a form of separation from all, that continues with or without body. But all forms can transform or dissolve into formlessness. The answers you seek will be found by experience, not through books, gurus, seminars, movies or religion.
The only purpose to life is to live. To live fully and experience all that is in any given moment. All other purposes are delusions of the mind. Turn the light within and understand the nature of all things.
Don't look to middle aged white men who write books on transformation or 2012 or disclosure for your answers. Turn within. And when you have found the light of true awareness, connect with the entire world and see and feel the light within all things.
May all of you know that peace is already within you,
Bright Garlick a.k.a. Light Stinky. :sleep:
Rocky_Shorz
7th June 2011, 03:23
May all of you know that peace is already within you,
I love Garlic...
sorry to hear about it returning, but your attitude alone will help it pass...
our thoughts and prayers are with you... :angel:
gigha
7th June 2011, 03:25
This is my one final post here. I don't usually let venom fly, I am a compassionate person and Buddhist.
Today I found out that cancer has returned to my body - I don't know if I'll live or die. So I want to say one last thing.
Those of you who seek answers outwardly, will never find truth. Those who seek inwardly will feel truth. Those of you who believe aliens are bad, don't get it because you are sheep and can't feel and reason with discerning wisdom. STOP FOLLOWING FOOLS. Those of you who believe that TPTB are all bad, also don't get it,. They are not one homogenous group. They are many arms and not all connected. The aliens are the ones who have greatest overall control of how things move but it is human idiots who reshape ciivilization and each one of us who make day to day choices about how to live and the world we create.
As i understand reality - There is no self. There is the illusion of self. I and Emptiness. Consciousness is a form of separation from all, that continues with or without body. But all forms can transform or dissolve into formlessness. The answers you seek will be found by experience, not through books, gurus, seminars, movies or religion.
The only purpose to life is to live. To live fully and experience all that is in any given moment. All other purposes are delusions of the mind. Turn the light within and understand the nature of all things.
Don't look to middle aged white men who write books on transformation or 2012 or disclosure for your answers. Turn within. And when you have found the light of true awareness, connect with the entire world and see and feel the light within all things.
May all of you know that peace is already within you,
Bright Garlick a.k.a. Light Stinky. :sleep:
Bright Garlick i certainly did not here any venom here.
May you always find peace....
Etherios
7th June 2011, 09:49
No no, Etherios, nobody is left behind. This is not a them and us scenerio. Im no more enlightened than anyone else here. The GodSelf is within every human waiting to be realized. Ive probably been on the journey a bit longer than you. Well, looking at your age, a whole lot longer, but I started my realizations at your age and have been reading, studying, applying, experimenting ever since. Nobody is left behind in this journey of souls (well not according to me). I just feel the changes and have a feeling of going home. Of something happening and something pregnant with promise. Its like a building of energy, of momentum. Sounds a bit weird I know, but none of the negative crap gets to me much anymore. I dont fear anything, or anybody, and its a nice way to be.This building of light, energy, whatever is also available to the rest of my friends and family. Its sort of contagious!! So, in that regard, it helps lift everybody. By the same token, if we read study pay attention to only the negative thats what we empower and re-create. That doesnt mean being ignorant of the ghastly stuff happening in the world but to focus on that excusively, adds to it. Our thought 'matter' in every moment. Its like water in a river, a fast flowing river. It just giggles round the rocks and carries on. The rocks (the negative stuff) cannot stop the water of spiritual advancement.
My advice to you to re-connect with your own GodSelf is to take time alone, to clear the mind and just 'be'. And to do that every single day without fail. That can be in the middle of the night if days are full. Make time. Focus of any sort is excellent. Start posing questions to your inner Self. It will eventually answer you. Read spiritual books. Study them. Many of the books I started out with I could barely understand, but I persisted and eventually the truths came from them. Books like "The Life and Teachings of the Masters of the Far East" by Baird Spalding. "The Door of Everything" by Ruby Nelson. "The Starseed Transmissions" by Raphael. Barbara Marciniaks books. Ramtha "The White Book" These books I read and read and re-read and each time I understood deeper and better.
Get stuck in, dont be scared to make mistakes. Because we learn from everything and everyone. People get so mesmirised by thinking they have to do only the right thing that they dont do anything. Be a spiritual revolutionary. Go for it and dont let anything or anyone hold you back.
Cheers
Carmen
I might be wrong but i think there are 2 separate but totally connected evolutions. The personal evolution and the global evolution.
We can evolve as much as we want personally but a chimp with a gun can pass by and shoot you cause its fun... then its all over for this trip and you will have to wait for the next time around.
Also i dont think there can be a global evolution of humanity if we dont have enough evolved humans to make this change/evolution.
So i agree with what you say Carmen but i disagree with the people that say we only have to evolve our selves ... we are not living in our own little bubble worlds. We live (good or bad) in this twisted and bad society that only wants to eat it self ... If we just worry and take care of our selves there wont be any change in the rest of the world. Why? cause the majority of the world doesnt even want to think about evolution. They only care for football and shoping or for work to make enough money to survive. These people cant evolve like we are talking here ... they dont have the time the means OR the knowledge of this. You cant expect an african diamond miner to worry about his inner self when he doesnt even know if he will wake up alive. Or you cant expect an african child that is dieing from no water or no food to evolve and talk to his inner self.
If you dont care or think that evolving our selves will help them then i disagree with you. We need to change our societies (us that have an easier/safer way of life) so that we can help these people to provide them a way to stop fearing death and starvation. Then we can all focus to our inner selves and lift humanity to where we should had been.
We always forget that we are not alone ... we live in a planet full of humans and full of life. We cant just think about our selves and expect the world to follow.
Ofc i can be wrong and our godself force the rest of the humans to wake up or something and then we will only have to worry about finding our godself. TILL THEN tho ... its just caring for your own ass and let the rest fall apart. We are too few and most of us treated like outcasts to enable the light to change the people around us.
We didnt all have ET contact like some people here ... or other spiritual awakenings. The majority of the humans live in a brainwashed bubble little world they created to protect themselves.
Anyway this went longer than i hoped for i am sorry. I do try to find my GodSelf but it seems he is hiding too well ... i still hope tho
Carmen
7th June 2011, 10:35
Etherios, there is one particular law that is sacresanc, and that is the law of 'freewill'. One cannot 'force' any person or any nation for that matter to 'wake up'. A person can only inspire, be an example to others of spiritual advancement. We have to allow, but in that allowance is room to move, to change. I discovered this myself a few years back.
When I started my spiritual journey I was considered odd, to say the least. I lost most of my friends and alienated most of my family. Also one goes through what I call the evangelical stage of waking which is browbeating all your friends and family with your newly aquired knowledge! Guess what!! They could care less!!! Well, after a whole one learns to shut ones mouth and just carry on. In saying that though, what is written in the Christian bible of shining your light is right on. Just being yourself and growing spiritually, after a while does affect those around you. Most of my close family, my kids especially, are all on the spiritual path and I have a whole group of new friends who are doing the same. But in the beginning, no way!! I had to work damn hard on myself to release, allow and love unconditionally, but it worked!!! I also have plenty of friends who are not spiritually inclined, but are great mates and I love them to bits.
If you have a passion to go to a third world country to help, then do it, but unless you have put on your spiritual seat belt first, you may not be much help. We can only lift and help others after we have helped ourselves and are strong and resillient spiritually.
JoshERTW
7th June 2011, 12:52
I'm ready for it - I'm willing to assist anyone who is not when it comes
I think that will be the role of communities like this when the ball drops (and it will)
We have a bit of a headstart, some experience wading through the mire of false truths, and hopefully at the time it occurs we will be ready to follow our respective intuitive abilities to the proper conclusions, and use that knowledge to guide the people who are totally blown away by the news.
I think the shock will not be as immense as the PTB think - look at the floods in Australia this year - that was a shock, and it involved real loss of life and property on a massive scale. But people banded together and helped each other get through it. Disclosure would not be a disaster like this, there would be no loss of life or property - at least not caused by external sources.
That's the human nature I like to see, and I think we've been seeing it more and more as these kind of nasty events transpire, often to the great surprise of the gov'ts just sitting in the wings waiting to flip that martial law switch. They haven't needed it, and I don't think they ever will, unless its as a result of something they instigate. Even then, it will be so transparent that we will all see it for what it is and finda way to get through it.
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