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In an event reminiscent of some of the Discovery Channel Mythbusters' most spectacular explosions, the Sun on June 7, 2011, starting at about 06:41 UT unleashed one of the most spectacular prominence eruptions ever observed...
More... (http://soho.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/2011_06_07/)
Ilie Pandia
8th June 2011, 05:44
Here are the images of that:
Click for hi-res
http://soho.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/2011_06_07/C2_M2_CME_med.jpg (http://soho.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/2011_06_07/C2_M2_CME.jpg)
Click for hi-res
http://soho.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/2011_06_07/M2_CMElarge_med.jpg (http://soho.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/2011_06_07/M2_CMElarge.jpg)
They are impressive to say the least.
the_flyingboy
8th June 2011, 05:55
wow ,do these affect us at all?
KosmicKat
8th June 2011, 11:32
According to MSM news seen elsewhere, it will at least graze Earth's magnetosphere. Buckle down folks!
Arrowwind
8th June 2011, 13:58
According to MSM news seen elsewhere, it will at least graze Earth's magnetosphere. Buckle down folks!
When will this happen?
Ilie Pandia
8th June 2011, 14:41
According to MSM news seen elsewhere, it will at least graze Earth's magnetosphere. Buckle down folks!
When will this happen?
Right about the time of this post :). Sorry I did not save the link for that estimation.
manny
8th June 2011, 14:51
they look massive.
are we to expect anything,in the next day or two?
Carmody
8th June 2011, 15:12
I've never seen a flare look like that before. Those look quite anomalous or 'different' to my untrained eye. a new type or similar. The energy levels are high enough that they seem to be peeling plasma away from the sun in ways not really seen before, at least by this person.
In watching the movie of it, the intensity seemed to be so great, that it absolutely overwhelmed the sensor and associated hardware for the sensor. The noise levels in the sensor went right through the roof during the recording of the main plasma shot/burp itself.
That almost looks like temporal or scalar flux disturbances that the sensor system has picked up. Recall that the scalar wave is timeless or infinite and everywhere. So if the local scalar flux varies and the burp from the sun is the result, the sensor may have picked that up in the same way that radiation is seen in traces on film. It would be totally concurrent (same time) as the flare appears. This could be simple noise in the (electronics) system from the huge dynamic swing of energies (light pressure) that the sensor may have had to deal with... but I don't think the makers of such a device were dumb enough to design the hardware so it would sensitive in such a way, with regard to producing the noted specific type of noise from such a huge signal input peak.
Knowing what I know about such devices, I'd say it is basically impossible to design such a sensor to act like that, in the specific, as a design flaw in the power supply system for said sensor. That specific kind of noise, I cannot fathom how a power supply system could produce such an image.
If I was a betting person I would say that it has to be particle interactions with the panel in the radiation sense.
So.... you may be seeing direct evidence for scalar fields in the video from NASA.
http://soho.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/2011_06_07/20110607-C2-large.mov
Carmody
8th June 2011, 15:37
If you go to look at the Rossi E-Cat energy catalyzing device, you will see that his device produces radiation as an offshoot... and the device is scalar or alchemical in nature and type.
Thus ..comparatively speaking..here...scalar field interactions in the 'aether' due to 'pressure wave changes' may produce radiation in the sensor, even though such a thing is totally 'out of time.'
Thus the radiation particle like noise in the sensor system of the satellite capture image, even though the device could not possibly be getting any normal 'flux wave' particles (radiation) at the exact same time the flare is taking place.
Yes, I've looked again.
You are getting photonic creation and particle interaction at the sensor, which, IMO and IME, is of a scalar nature.
You are apparently seeing dimensional leakage, or the creation of radiation due to dimensional/aether/scalar pressure changes.
Ilie Pandia
8th June 2011, 15:43
Carmody,
Plain English please! :P (just half kidding!)
Did you see this post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?22170-Unbelievable%21-A-huge-flotilla-of-UFOs-in-the-Sun-June-5-2011-Space-Fleet%21&p=236584&viewfull=1#post236584)? Just a coincidence that such phenomena was observed two days before the big flare? What are your thoughts?
Carmody
8th June 2011, 16:12
I did watch that video to some extent but brushed it off as ill formed opinion in areas where no real knowledge of imaging systems was taking place. It disturbed and alarmed me that people would involve themselves in such things. This is due to me thinking it was some sort of dust on the sensor. But, you see, the dust was never there before....(I was very turned off by the bull**** music)
However, the noise in the sensor in the video of the flare itself is not so easily explained away. The nature of the noise is not even remotely normal, with regard to it's TIMING of existence.
IF the sun is about to go into a massive burp period, ie the peak flare period and it is extreme then planting diversions and distracting information in the form of 'UFO fleets from the planet orangutan' is not outside the bounds of efforts that might be used, not by a long shot. It would be like flipping a working and useful nickel of effort ...toward and upon a real and noted problem of "alternative groups waking up society."
There could be real issues of 'something' around the sun, or it could be a distraction from the coming issue of scalar disturbances of immense proportions. Getting below the surface could be the deal to avoid as much as possible, the change in the situation which might be huge levels of locally (immediate-everywhere) created radiation... thus underground bases.
However, if it is in the flux field, and everywhere... as seen in the satellite images, their plans may be moot. Wasted energy, in at least some sense.
as for the 'why does the radiation not show up NOW in the fossil record, if this is a repeated situation/scenario/cycle?'
Well, in the E-cat device by Rossi, the radiation exists only when the device is working in that 'scalar' way. Once shut down, barely a trace can be found.
Ilie Pandia
8th June 2011, 16:23
Carmody,
I am the first to dismiss those images as noise or loos due to data compression and so on. However that clip had a lot of it!! There is no longer a remote pixel or two.... so the questions remain: was that really noise? and if yes what caused it to be so much of it? why now? where did it go? is there any connection with this massive flare?
I don't claim advanced physics knowledge, but I have a hard time dismissing that as "oh it was noise... nothing unusual here".
From what you are saying I get that we may dealing with a form or radiation not generally known (or accepted to exist) that may cause that "noise" and this flare? (Am I close ?)
rgray222
8th June 2011, 16:26
There is an ever growing number of people that believe if there is doom and gloom associated with 2012 it might just be coming from the Sun. NASA and the experts tell us that we have a pattern of stronger then usual solar activity once every eleven years which means we are on track for that activity in late 2012 early 2013 time frame. Basically the magnetic fields of the sun flip from north to south which causes intense solar activity. This recent event recorded on the sun is just a warm up for things to come in the next 12-18 months. This event is not without precedent, the events of 1859 were catastrophic. A similar event of 2012 or 2013 could be unimaginable.
The so called experts in the video below tell us not to worry, no big deal but is that really true! You be the judge!
The Sun Storm of 1859
The 1859 storm--known as the "Carrington Event" after astronomer Richard Carrington who witnessed the instigating solar flare--electrified transmission cables, set fires in telegraph offices, and produced Northern Lights so bright that people could read newspapers by their red and green glow. A recent report by the National Academy of Sciences found that if a similar storm occurred today, it could cause $1 to 2 trillion in damages to society's high-tech infrastructure and require four to ten years for complete recovery. For comparison, Hurricane Katrina caused "only" $80 to 125 billion in damage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRhY5rGsoSY
Steven
8th June 2011, 16:32
...When will this happen?
8 minutes later :)
Namaste, Steven
Ilie Pandia
8th June 2011, 16:35
Hello rgray222,
Do you think that if we shut down everything electrical in advance we will be OK from that point of view?
As far as I understand only "live circuits" are affected by EMP.
- Ilie
Steven
8th June 2011, 16:46
Hello rgray222,
Do you think that if we shut down everything electrical in advance we will be OK from that point of view?
As far as I understand only "live circuits" are affected by EMP.
- Ilie
No, not at all. Electronic components are affected by strong EMP with very high frequencies. But only DC components, live or not. DC components are not made for alternative signals. An EMP is an analog signal made of irregular alternative (cross a zero axis from one pole - to another +) wave. The DC components resonate when this signal crosses it and since its not made for alternative signals, it heats up and can melt. Very tiny holes are observable in the chips which breaks its electronic conductors due to high statics produced when the EMP passed throught the chip.
According to Nasa, they forsee a strong Coronal Mass Ejection from the sun in may-june 2013. This CME will produce Eletro-magnetic Pulse 'that they think', could be strong enough to brake DC components. Since many electrical line protection are made of DC components, by default they 'open'. It creates a lack of electricity. But nothing to be feared for the power transformers, they will not melt :) Nothing unfixable.
Namaste, Steven
Carmody
8th June 2011, 16:46
The type of noise is a radiation type that smears tracks, like neutrinos or similar. That is the odd part of the video.
I know of not one single sensor and power supply device (or any design parameter of said devices) of any kind..... that can produce that type of 'track' due to ANY type of image capture signal overload. Not a one, in any way, that I can remotely think of.
The noise is random scatter radiation production, in situ, locally, in the sensor system itself...in temporal sequence with the flare.
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