Military Buildup on India/China Border

[Shocking Display]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8UJRPWxqzw&feature=related

Sorry I couldn;t find a Global Politics thread or similar, please move if needed.

This is in tandem with the US sending 10's of millions of armaments and aid to India to hlpe stymie the Chinese threat regarding Pakistan and the balance of power in the overall conflict areas. INteresting to see it starting to happen, also as China announces it's first Aircraft Carrier (1st of 3) widening it's strategic options in the Pacific and almost directly challenging the US for control of the area... these arboth interesting developments if taken into the greater scheme of things when you add to the financial politics being played out between the two super powers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ-kOsZEpho&feature=fvsr

[Michelle Marie]

Observation/awareness lead me down this path of research that I have not pieced together. But it has to do with Chinese financial interests and contracts for helicopter/military/police training right here where I live in Oregon.

I began seeing lots of helicopters in our small town, so I started researching the Internet. I saw them in the day, and I heard them buzzing around at night. It turns out there are multi-million dollar contracts with the Chinese Police/Military for helicopter search and rescue training. A guy associated in the first link was banned from Banned By Canada’s securities commission until 2013. His name is Steven de Jaray. I don't know the connection, but he was in the financial industry and now he owns a local winery and ships the wine to Hong Kong.

Oddly, this was on the first site I found….
SOUTHERN OREGON CHINA CONNECTION - LUNCHEON 2010- CHINESE MILITARY-POLICE DISPLAY PROVIDED BY BRAMMO FOR THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT WELCOME LUNCH. BOB COCKELL AND JOE RICE, SPEAKERS, EXPLAINING TRAINING THE CHINESE PILOTS ( LARGEST MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACTS IN CHINESE HISTORY TO TRAIN THEIR PILOTS on OUR AMERICAN TURF). INCLUDING FLYING / LANDING REPEATEDLY AT HYATT LAKE WHICH IS ILLEGAL. AND HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED.
TO TRAIN CHINESE-MILITARY POLICE ON DAVE'S ROAD..."
http://themurderofdavelewis.webs.com/apps/blog/show/prev?from_id=7060718
Recent 2011 update:
http://themurderofdavelewis.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/7154840-ashland-oregon-airport-southern-oregon-china-connection

Then this…
Chinese helicopter training in Ashland

“More than 7,000 people per square mile are packed into Shanghai compared with 65 in Jackson County. Oregon's forests, however, are far thicker and Brim said that's a good starting place for learning the ins and outs of urban search and rescue.”

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100226/BIZ/2260319

Another piece…

I came across this video from an economic researcher. You have to listen to/read the whole thing because there are no placement controls, but the essential piece of information that I got that is another puzzle piece to China is this:

China holds all of billions of dollars worth of U.S. dollar bonds. They want to get rid of U.S, currency, but they can’t sell them all back suddenly or their economy would crash. So they are secretly buying up corporations and land in other countries.

These are the links…

Research Video
http://www.stansberryresearch.com/pro/1103PSIEOAVD/PPSIM601/PR
Link from the bottom of this:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/can_truth_prevail_in_a_culture.html
Another thing is that a friend of mine said that they are closing forest roads in Oregon because of some tree disease (spores). His hunch is that it is not the real reason. He says you can just wash them off your tires. A perception that something is out of integrity, or off kilter…
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2011/06/remote_forest_roads_in_southern_oregon_remain_closed.html

I don’t know how all this fits together yet, or if each piece is even relevant, but my sense is to be alert and aware of related information.

Any comments or additional information?

[Shocking Display]

Thank you.

I will look at this shortly.

I was made aware a couple of years ago that most of the US National parks have been progressivly sold off to the Chinese in lieu of debt. Can someone confirm this?
ALso Alex Jones has recently said that the Chinese want to build entire cities in the US referring to one that was 50 sq kms/miles. The reason this is significant is that any private land owned by corporations operates under corporate law. We have seen all the sci fi movies and what this involves. Please correct me if I am wrong.

[Shocking Display]

BTws way my spelling isn;t usually as bad as the thread title haha

[Michelle Marie]

BTws way my spelling isn;t usually as bad as the thread title haha

That's funny! I thought I did that. When I saw my reply come up, I thought...oh no, I didn't check my spelling. Then I realized it was the name of the thread. That's ok, though. As long as we get the message. I was cutting and pasting and I didn't do the best job, either.

That rings a bell about the National Parks. I might have heard that before. Well, if we owe them more money than we can pay, maybe there is some truth to that. We'll see...truth is coming out now. Maybe we'll hear from somebody regarding some definitive information.

[karelia]

BTW my spelling isn't usually as bad as the thread title, haha.

There. Evidence removed. ;)

[Shocking Display]

BTW my spelling isn't usually as bad as the thread title, haha.

There. Evidence removed. ;)

Thanks, now can you come and sit behind me while I create other docs and do the same? :) haha

[58andfixed]

Research Video

http://www.stansberryresearch.com/pro/1103PSIEOAVD/PPSIM601/PR

Any comments or additional information?


Just a couple of items that makes the research ahead of its time, but not by much.

"Hillary Clinton interested in becoming head of World Bank?"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8567112/Hillary-Clinton-interested-in-becoming-head-of-World-Bank.html

And an older item.

"China buys up the world"

http://www.economist.com/node/17463473

It's difficult when aiming at a distant target to bring it down with a shotgun. Not only does the 'hunter of truth' require a 'jacketed projectile', but a well aligned & aimed telescope ...

Knowing which issue is at core, at which issues are distractions will help the audience focus on where the magician will be pulling a rabbit out of which hat, instead of being distracted by the leggy assistant in tight skimpy clothing...

- 58

[oceanz]

http://amd.elequity.com/blog1.php?p=145&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

This comes from Robert Chapman, publisher of International Forecaster.
BOMBSHELL II-CONFIRM-UNIMAGINABLE BETRAYAL-US GIVES CHINA EMINENT DOMAIN OVER US

USA DOUBLE CROSSED-SOLD OUT BY POLITRICKSTER CABAL

THIS PERTINENT SECTION BELOW OF THE INTERNATIONAL FORECASTER DATED WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2011, CONFIRMS A USA TENDER TO CHINA-A WRITTEN AGREEMENT GRANTING AN OPTION TO EXERCISE EMINENT DOMAIN WITHIN THE USA, AS COLLATERAL FOR CHINA'S CONTINUED PURCHASE OF US TREASURY NOTES AND EXISTING US CURRENCY RESERVES.

Put simply, the feds have now actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to "take" all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt.

This is an unimaginable betrayal of every man, woman and child in the USA. An outrage worthy of violent overthrow.


http://iqxs.posterous.com/fw-subject-foreign-trade-zones-within-the-usa
Each and every one of our state governors has approved and allocated a certain amount of acres of their U.S. state land to be inhabited by Chinese communists --communists straight from China! They are to set up little towns and live here, supposedly for the purpose of producing Chinese products for sale in the U.S.A. The land the states are giving them for their little towns will be considered "foreign territory"!!! We are told that the laws of the state (in which these Chinese communists dwell) will apply to the communist Foreign Trade Zone (FTZ). Comment: If so, why are they allowed in here!??! Isn't the whole set up unlawful??? There are 257 of these little communist towns to be built all over the United States. Go to this website and see the list of the states, and how many FTZ's are to be erected in each and every state! Our nation is being peppered all over with these communist closed towns called "zones"! This insane brainstorm by Washington, D.C. officials was just recently discovered by alert citizens in the State of Idaho, where an FTZ is being built there, just south of Boise, Idaho, possibly 30,000 acres of Idaho is going to be used for that FTZ. Check this site quickly before it is removed:

http://ia.ita.doc.gov/ftzpage/letters/ftzlist-map.html

When you get to this website, be prepared by having enough paper to print 40 pages, listing all the FTZ's to be built over the whole United States! 257 of these FTZ's! It is absolute insanity!! How gullible are we??? The excuse given for creating communist towns all over our nation is that these Chinese people will produce products for sale in the United States, and the FTZ will eliminate overseas shipping costs of the products they create! A bizarre excuse!!! Can't we manufacture our own products anymore with American workers? How foolish are we to allow this??? Remember the hard-learned lesson taught to gullible people back in ancient times, when the Trojan Horse was built and they pulled it past their protective gates??? Do we Americans look THAT STUPID to the Chinese and to our Washington,D.C. leaders???

If China has dumped 97% ot Tbills/bonds then does that mean they only have 3% to collect in lieu of payment for American soil?

[Michelle Marie]

http://amd.elequity.com/blog1.php?p=145&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

This comes from Robert Chapman, publisher of International Forecaster.
BOMBSHELL II-CONFIRM-UNIMAGINABLE BETRAYAL-US GIVES CHINA EMINENT DOMAIN OVER US

USA DOUBLE CROSSED-SOLD OUT BY POLITRICKSTER CABAL

THIS PERTINENT SECTION BELOW OF THE INTERNATIONAL FORECASTER DATED WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2011, CONFIRMS A USA TENDER TO CHINA-A WRITTEN AGREEMENT GRANTING AN OPTION TO EXERCISE EMINENT DOMAIN WITHIN THE USA, AS COLLATERAL FOR CHINA'S CONTINUED PURCHASE OF US TREASURY NOTES AND EXISTING US CURRENCY RESERVES.

Put simply, the feds have now actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to "take" all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt.

This is an unimaginable betrayal of every man, woman and child in the USA. An outrage worthy of violent overthrow.


http://iqxs.posterous.com/fw-subject-foreign-trade-zones-within-the-usa
Each and every one of our state governors has approved and allocated a certain amount of acres of their U.S. state land to be inhabited by Chinese communists --communists straight from China! They are to set up little towns and live here, supposedly for the purpose of producing Chinese products for sale in the U.S.A. The land the states are giving them for their little towns will be considered "foreign territory"!!! We are told that the laws of the state (in which these Chinese communists dwell) will apply to the communist Foreign Trade Zone (FTZ). Comment: If so, why are they allowed in here!??! Isn't the whole set up unlawful??? There are 257 of these little communist towns to be built all over the United States. Go to this website and see the list of the states, and how many FTZ's are to be erected in each and every state! Our nation is being peppered all over with these communist closed towns called "zones"! This insane brainstorm by Washington, D.C. officials was just recently discovered by alert citizens in the State of Idaho, where an FTZ is being built there, just south of Boise, Idaho, possibly 30,000 acres of Idaho is going to be used for that FTZ. Check this site quickly before it is removed:

http://ia.ita.doc.gov/ftzpage/letters/ftzlist-map.html

When you get to this website, be prepared by having enough paper to print 40 pages, listing all the FTZ's to be built over the whole United States! 257 of these FTZ's! It is absolute insanity!! How gullible are we??? The excuse given for creating communist towns all over our nation is that these Chinese people will produce products for sale in the United States, and the FTZ will eliminate overseas shipping costs of the products they create! A bizarre excuse!!! Can't we manufacture our own products anymore with American workers? How foolish are we to allow this??? Remember the hard-learned lesson taught to gullible people back in ancient times, when the Trojan Horse was built and they pulled it past their protective gates??? Do we Americans look THAT STUPID to the Chinese and to our Washington,D.C. leaders???

If China has dumped 97% ot Tbills/bonds then does that mean they only have 3% to collect in lieu of payment for American soil?

Well, this confirms what I was sensing. Our county was listed as one of the grantors. Thanks so much for this information. I had that feeling that someone "sold out" right here in this area.

[Flash]

This thread should change name for China buys the world,

the buying of land in US to make little towns for Chinese manufacturers, importing the manpower from China in US, is extremely important imho. It is so astonighing that i am wondering where is the truth about it. If true, it does describe:

the dire situation of US economy and its links to Chinese economy
the power that China is having right now
the
sell out of our governments to dictatorship countries, even if smooth - capitalist like, as China is becoming - dictatorship, nevertheless dictatorship

Who would live in these city: Chinese workers/labor to work on manufacturing chains: very hard to believe, I would rather think Chinese management taking hold of American workers, looks like they would become the new poors of the world. All that on privately owned land and with Chinese law on US territories. Too much for me to even foresee.

[Flash]

Ok, here are the Foreign Trade Zone in Canada. They are not for importing workers, but for importing/exporting goods. They make the trade barriers easier to cross (I bet some companies do not pay anything to the govt - taxes, import taxes, etc - when in these zones.) This has to do with trade, not with workforce, at least in Canada, and yes, there is some zones like this in every province.

I now remember seeing and inquiring about the same Free Zones in Turkey, I think this is a fairly common practice. They are for foreign investments only and they are to make foreigners investing in one's country easier. They are very expensive to be in, in terms of office space, wharehousing, etc. It has to be really worthwhile to install a company in these Free Zones because of the primary cost.

In my opinion, this has nothing to do with having foreing workers in or taking land of a foreign country.

http://www.foreigntradezone.ca/

[oceanz]

Another suggestion Flash, is when financial system can no longer be kept afloat, any Chinese residences living in the US have a safe haven to go to when food shortages and the likes leads to rioting. After all, it doesn't help that Trump has already seeded the idea that China is somehow to blame for people's economic woes.

[oceanz]

More info:


http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/china-wants-to-construct-a-50-square-mile-self-sustaining-city-south-of-boise-idaho

So what is China going to do with all of that money? One thing that they have decided to do is to buy up pieces of the United States and set up "special economic zones" inside our country from which they can continue to extend their economic domination. One of these "special economic zones" would be just south of Boise, Idaho and the Idaho government is eager to give it to them. China National Machinery Industry Corporation (Sinomach for short) plans to construct a "technology zone" south of Boise Airport which would ultimately be up to 50 square miles in size. The Chinese Communist Party is the majority owner of Sinomach, so the 10,000 to 30,000 acre "self-sustaining city" that is being planned would essentially belong to the Chinese government. The planned "self-sustaining city" in Idaho would include manufacturing facilities, warehouses, retail centers and large numbers of homes for Chinese workers. Basically it would be a slice of communist China dropped right into the middle of the United States.

Sinomach has recently dispatched delegations to Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania to explore the possibility of establishing "special economic zones" in those states.

Will such "self-contained communities" soon start appearing from coast to coast?

According to Dr. Jerome Corsi, the U.S. government has already set up 257 "foreign trade zones" across America. These "foreign trade zones" will apparently be given "special U.S. customs treatment" and will be used to promote global free trade....

"The FTZs tend to be located near airports, with easy access into the continental NAFTA and WTO multi-modal transportation systems being created to move free-trade goods cheaply, quickly and efficiently throughout the continent of North America."
So what do our politicians think about all of this?

Most of them are greatly in favor of it.

"Idaho’s the last state that should say we don’t want to do business with Asia," Idaho Lt. Gov. Brad Little said last year. "Asia’s where the money is."

In 2010, China had a "current account balance" of over 272 billion dollars, which was the largest in the world.

In 2010, the United States had a "current account balance" of negative 561 billion dollars. According to the CIA world factbook, that put us in last place in the entire world. In fact, our negative current account balance was more than 9 times larger than anyone else in the world.

[KeelahSelai]

Here is a world of advice, the more you buy into this nonsense the more, you'll have to talk about, but ultimately the USA, China thing, quit barking up that tree already.

[Flash]

Here is a world of advice, the more you buy into this nonsense the more, you'll have to talk about, but ultimately the USA, China thing, quit barking up that tree already.

I clearly do not understand your comment at all, please either elaborate for my little brain, translate somehow or explain. Thanks

[Rocky_Shorz]

Just to clear this up, the 97% dump was short term notes starting back in the banking crisis, a deceptive lie by the article creator, they have increased debt holding since March...

America was given to the Brits back in 1912 and no one seems to care, what would be the difference if China did it, oh yeah, no money for the inbred frogs...

[Rocky_Shorz]

now look at these stats...


As a result of its asset purchase program (QE2), the Federal Reserve at the end of 1Q held about 14% of total outstanding federal debt (debt held by the public). It is, therefore, now the single-largest creditor of the US government.

According to separate data from the Treasury Department, China is ranked second. It owned in late March Treasuries worth USD 1,145bn, which is slightly less than 12% of the total amount outstanding.

After the Fed and China, the biggest holders of U.S. debt are

the household sector
Japan
state and local governments
and private pension funds.

By the end of this month, the Fed will have boosted its Treasury holdings by another USD 250bn (annualized 1tr), and will own about 16% of all outstanding Treasuries (not to mention the 15% of GSE mortgage-backed securities)… link (http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2011/06/09/fed-passes-china-to-become-largest-u-s-creditor/)

The Federal Reserve is now the #1 holder...

do you like how they say debt held by public...

so since it is public held government debt, let's just torch the pile...

anyone have a match?