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Jan Rodrigo
19th May 2010, 22:38
The Truth about Extraterrestrials
I started looking into alien contact when I was 16. I was totally fascinated by the fact we couldn’t be the only beings of high intelligence in the universe or galaxy yet the size of both are not even comprehensible. I read many books and watched lots of videos - the evidence is overwhelming to say there’s alien contact and also staged abductions by the government in the name of these very beings. As I got deeper into my research I came across books on Pleiadians Lightworkers which I found very interesting. I felt as if there was truth in this subject so I started reading more books in this area. I was always a spiritual person and was looking for answers. Things never felt right with the world and I was sure there is so much more than the ‘norm’. I remember thinking ‘please tell me there is more to life than working a 9 to 5 job, have a family and then get old and die. Then that’s it!! I mean now that sounds pointless to me and if you live then die and that’s it! Why not enjoy your life instead of slaving away? So I went searching for answers. I started doing something called the Pleiadian Lightwork. I was trying to lift my frequencies and activate my DNA. I did this for 3 months and things in my house started to mess up. TVs, radios, anything electrical would act up and in the end the people in my house asked me to stop doing what I was doing because their kids were spinning out!
I also am sure I had contact as I can remember strange lights and other crazy stuff happening. As all these things were going on I decided to stop all of what I was doing and just stick to finding out about myself. I was still reading books on the subject but decided doing the lighwork did not feel right anymore. I remember reading a book that said these beings were not here because they wanted to be. They were here because we were causing a bottle neck in their own evolutionary process so they had to get involved to help themselves! Now call me stupid but this did not seem like unconditional love to me. If these beings are so spiritual how come they’re missing the fundamental basics not to mention I’m sure they do not respect free will? Also as I’m older now and have a better understanding I’m realizing that if any being tells you that you need them or need saving, they are only taking away your true potential. If any being claims to be a higher species and ask for your worship they also are taking away your true potential. I never heard of any beings say, ‘hey listen. Your true potential is infinite and you don’t need anyone or anything as you have all the answers inside you. God is you and me. It is in all that is creation. We are infinite love. Go with what you already know within you. You are your own leaders. Ignore any thing that tells you otherwise.
’ Now if they were trying to truly help us it would be obvious to what I would feel and I don’t feel these beings are here to truly help. In fact most of these beings are definitely nowhere near as evolved as we think. The general basics of spirituality are missing. Also there’s overwhelming evidence to say these beings have lost themselves in the matrix. All we ever need is simple and not complicated. All we ever need to know is our true selves. Anyway, this is my view but I feel this to be truth.
All my love Jan
Etherios
19th May 2010, 23:25
I agree with you. How i feel / want the universe to be is a huge place filled with life ... different life. Yes they might have more technology but i am sure they are not gods or they have solved all their problems. They are just going through this journey called life and try to learn more things and try to evolve try to grow ...
Yes i believe there are many dimensions and many universes but this just makes life more vast and a bit more complicated. It doesnt give godness to other dimesion ETs . All living things that have a will are obligated to act according to that will. If they want to help or they want to use us is irrelevant to the true things we need to do. HELP OUR SELVES. Tips are good , little taps in the back even some scolding to wake us up is good its all in the learning process (we really need some help to get out of this)...
Anything that is total is bad. This is the basic thing i dont like about GFL or Dr. Greer. I dont believe there are such great ETs out there that are our saviours but wont do this wont do that... there is a plan etc etc. We could had had the contact 50 years ago and by know be among the stars with these benevolent ETs with our own feet... But nooo we have to get poisoned die fight enslaved till the very last moment or till the moment we beg for saving.
Ending this ill tell you a rough scenario...
I wont get into who made humans or how we evolved.. i think there are all kinds of ETs out there ... something like the star trek society and there should be some kind of rules BUT either there are "bad" ETs that take advantage of us or we are the property of our creators the end result is that we are being controlled by malevolent ETs and we have many others god or bad watching/interacting with us. All that is left is to learn if we are just being tricked or "owned" and by whom so we can wake up and act. Take our lives back and make this amazing planet again how it should had been a long time ago.
P.S. Humans are not born bad. We have mentally ill humans but all of us become what we are raised to be. So i still have hope for all of us and the love we have inside of us will overcome these times.
Hiram
20th May 2010, 01:09
Jan,
We don't need to go to the ET's to hear the things you listed above. You said:
"I never heard of any beings say, ‘hey listen. Your true potential is infinite and you don’t need anyone or anything as you have all the answers inside you. God is you and me. It is in all that is creation. We are infinite love. Go with what you already know within you. You are your own leaders. Ignore any thing that tells you otherwise."
There are plenty of texts on this Earth that tell us those very things almost exactly. "The Prophet" by Khalil Gibran. The Conversations with God Trilogy...say exactly this. Many texts.
I would agree with Etherios as well. No one is all bad or Good. Those are just labels Humans have created to understand behavior as applied to our own limited contextual understanding of the universe. There are all sorts of beings interacting with us.
I would add that sometimes you work with and through the "bad" so you can realize......Hey! That's not what I want to be! There's no better lesson actually.
Helvetic
20th May 2010, 13:55
Jan, have a look into the work of Dolores Cannon. Im sure you will find alot of answers.
Peace of Mind
20th May 2010, 15:49
Hey guys,
Humans are probably aliens to this world too. Every other specie here looks and acts as if they were specially made for Earth. Humans not only seem to occupy it, but are the main species destroying it. Why is a being who is arguably the most intelligent of all Earth’s creatures destroying they own planet? Even the humans that are in the know have little to no impact in saving this world…it makes no sense if you ask me.
If there is outside contact, I don’t see what their interest are…I don’t see how they are impressed with the way we conduct our selves or the way we treat each other and the other Earth’s inhabitants. Much of our ideas about us and the cosmos reek of arrogance. All we really know (from my own observation) is destruction and how to pretend to be better than others. I’m not expecting any godly help from anyone or thing until we decide to make a stand for our own sovereignty. If I was an alien/grey/reptile/ or any other outside specie…I would probably snatch up a few live stock (of people) too…if the humans are not going to do anything about it, why not? We abduct other creatures for our own selfish purposes too. We destroy animal’s families, homes and life styles just to further our own. So why would advance being/s listen to our cries when we don’t listen to others…what makes us so special?
Peace
Etherios
20th May 2010, 16:10
Hey guys,
Humans are probably aliens to this world too. Every other specie here looks and acts as if they were specially made for Earth. Humans not only seem to occupy it, but are the main species destroying it. Why is a being who is arguably the most intelligent of all Earth’s creatures destroying they own planet? Even the humans that are in the know have little to no impact in saving this world…it makes no sense if you ask me.
If there is outside contact, I don’t see what their interest are…I don’t see how they are impressed with the way we conduct our selves or the way we treat each other and the other Earth’s inhabitants. Much of our ideas about us and the cosmos reek of arrogance. All we really know (from my own observation) is destruction and how to pretend to be better than others. I’m not expecting any godly help from anyone or thing until we decide to make a stand for our own sovereignty. If I was an alien/grey/reptile/ or any other outside specie…I would probably snatch up a few live stock (of people) too…if the humans are not going to do anything about it, why not? We abduct other creatures for our own selfish purposes too. We destroy animal’s families, homes and life styles just to further our own. So why would advance being/s listen to our cries when we don’t listen to others…what makes us so special?
Peace
I disagree with you. It isnt the nature of the humans to destroy the planet. Look all the last cultures that are still alive... hopi / American Indians / Inkas / etc etc.
The humans that destroy this planet is the monetary humans the brain washed the ones that only care about money. If we didnt have all these ppl will be one with nature or at least they wouldnt have been killing her all this time.
If we had since 1900s Teslas free energy and so many other that would had been invented atm the world would had been SOOOOOO much different. i can go on and on about these ...
SO trust me humans are not the cancer of this planet. Money is and the ppl behind it.
Peace of Mind
20th May 2010, 18:23
But who created money? Who kills trees to make money, houses, furniture. Etc, Who kills animals and take them away from their families for food, clothing, and hunt them for sport and depopulation? Who uses fossil fuels (Earths blood) when we clearly can use free energy such as the sun, water, and the planets magnetic field? Who acknowledges most if not all of human’s wrong doings and still go day to day doing nothing…but talk about it?
If we can’t take back our power from the few in government…how worthy do you think we are? Deep down we all know what needs to be done, but there are just too many harboring fear. Why should an outside force help the hiding, praying and the speculating…when we already know what needs to be done?
Peace
mike1414
20th May 2010, 18:23
If you judge people, you have no time to love them - Mother Teresa
i personally believe this is applicable to all levels and vibrations of being and not just people....everything is working toward harmony...altho many do not remember just yet, here and not
peace always
mike
Peace of Mind
20th May 2010, 18:30
Perhaps more speculations, although I do like the idea. I guess we'll see in due time,right? I just hope no one is sitting around waiting with their fingers crossed.
Peace
Etherios
20th May 2010, 18:58
But who created money? Who kills trees to make money, houses, furniture. Etc, Who kills animals and take them away from their families for food, clothing, and hunt them for sport and depopulation? Who uses fossil fuels (Earths blood) when we clearly can use free energy such as the sun, water, and the planets magnetic field? Who acknowledges most if not all of human’s wrong doings and still go day to day doing nothing…but talk about it?
If we can’t take back our power from the few in government…how worthy do you think we are? Deep down we all know what needs to be done, but there are just too many harboring fear. Why should an outside force help the hiding, praying and the speculating…when we already know what needs to be done?
Peace
I agree with you... but , yes there is a but.
When did you start thinking like this? When did you see that what we do is wrong? i am sure it is after you read something different from 90% of the humans that live here... The human race is and raised as a slave race and the best way to control a slave is to keep him occupied and ignorant of the big picture. So if a slave that has been raised to be like this hurts the earth who is to be blamed? The slave or the educator/master?
Just remember that in the middle east the fanatics are normal ppl like me and you BUT they are being raised to fanatism and suicide in the end for the "good of allax"
You cant blame the human race for these... Just because the Heads are rotten it doesnt mean the hole body is...
Peace of Mind
20th May 2010, 20:20
Yes, ;) I feel you Etherios...
And, for us to make a real difference there has to be a point in time (soon) where we all say “Enough is enough”. People need to be awake, but they choose to stay asleep. Until we all smell the coffee, I highly doubt there will be any intervention. I doubt if these saviors would want to become baby sitters after they take down the system. If something goes wrong, we are too quick to point fingers at everyone else…as usual. Everyone knows this and I’m sure ET does too. As a whole we do not like taking responsiblity. When we depend so much on our corrupt administrations and the flawed lifestyles set up for us…we are part of the problem, especially, when we do nothing to stop it. In general, people are just conditioned to not care about anything other than themselves...
I can’t speak much on the Middle Eastern fanatic’s situation because they are not really given a true stage to express why they do these horrific things. Most of our info comes from the government and their media. Children and school teachers committing suicide bombings makes no sense in any language or culture…unless these tactics were the results of having their backs against the wall. My theories about the Middle East are on the secret ops of finding ancient technology. Terrorism is a joke imo, why would people be envious over a country they can easily be a part of? When ever I witness the poli-tricks, like the sayings “We are fighting for our freedom” I shake my head in disgust. Lose freedom to who?.... rock throwers and inferior militias? These wars are personal; they are over the politician’s greed and lies. I think it’s safe to say that most of what’s seen on the TV about terrorism is fabrications and/or straight out lies of the truth.
You can look at all the circus acts going on today in politricks…just about everyone is getting busted in lying about something big or small. its not a good look...
Peace
Jacqui D
20th May 2010, 20:58
Well i believe the true humans are a mix of various races but not of the ones that are here now in control of governments etc, through interbreeding the races are now so mixed which by the way was the agenda in the first place because by mixing our dna they have in fact now severed all connections we have naturally to earth's grid systems which gave us our healing and long life til ascension, from when all planets would ascend and then eventually connect back to god source.
And yes i agree with Jan you do not need a higher being to save you, you already are a higher being you are of the creator source you are all.
The problem here on earth is a very long story, there have been ET's with higher intelligence but these are not always spiritual if they were then the planet would not be like it is now with greed/selfishness/ warring. It would be harmonious peaceful and loving.
These ET's have seek to control earth and the humans have been caught in the middle of a long struggle, the reason for all this is all about planetary stargates the reason for millions of years of control each warring with each other and the humans have been used in these wars in which they had no knowledge but thinking they were fighting for their country when in fact they were used as pawns in a game played out by these ones.
Lucrum
21st May 2010, 09:49
When did you start thinking like this? When did you see that what we do is wrong? i am sure it is after you read something different from 90% of the humans that live here...
Question was obviously not meant for me, but I'd like to give an answer to it anyways. :)
My first thoughts kinda out of the ordinary came long before I started reading or watching anything that most others wouldn't touch. I have vague memories from my 5th - 6th year of life that I already back then was thinking outside the box.
In my initial teenage years I presented ideas and thoughts to my parents which they at that point were absolutely not willing to listen to. My mom got quite mad at me actually for thinking like I did.
So I think it's possible to start this path long before you actually know you are on it, going against the current to find the "real" purpose of things.
As for OP's post, I tend to agree with him. We should expect all types, good and bad...and we should not expect saviours....because we are more than capable of saving ourselves. :)
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