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Tarka the Duck
10th June 2011, 18:23
I've been pondering...can we be sure that the kind of New Age spirituality that is frequently expounded on the Avalon forum doesn't have its roots in Common Purpose?

Tony
10th June 2011, 18:41
This is a tricky one.

A lie gets its strength by having an element of truth in it.
That is what Common Purpose do.

Maybe it is not intentional, just watered down to suit.
But there lies a danger, making something palatable.

To shift ignorance, one needs something stronger.
Learning is painful...to ego!

Tony

norman
10th June 2011, 19:09
I've been pondering...can we be sure that the kind of New Age spirituality that is frequently expounded on the Avalon forum doesn't have its roots in Common Purpose?

Hello T the DUCK,

I think you mean the semi secret organisation called 'Common Purpose', am I correct?

I've been intersted in that organisation since I first heard about it a couple of years ago but I still don't know very much.

On the surface it seems to be a kind of modern version of the freemasons but seemingly without any of the ritualistic elements.

I've heard that it targets key influential people around the country like:

Council leaders,
Top NHS administrators,
School Heads
etc, etc.


Or perhaps you don't mean this organisation.

Tarka the Duck
10th June 2011, 20:35
I've been pondering...can we be sure that the kind of New Age spirituality that is frequently expounded on the Avalon forum doesn't have its roots in Common Purpose?

Hello T the DUCK,

I think you mean the semi secret organisation called 'Common Purpose', am I correct?

I've been intersted in that organisation since I first heard about it a couple of years ago but I still don't know very much.

On the surface it seems to be a kind of modern version of the freemasons but seemingly without any of the ritualistic elements.

I've heard that it targets key influential people around the country like:

Council leaders,
Top NHS administrators,
School Heads
etc, etc.


Or perhaps you don't mean this organisation.

Hello Norman

That's the one! If you are interested, look up Brian Gerrish...

Best wishes
Tarka

Fred259
10th June 2011, 21:00
Do you know Brian Tarka?

Tarka the Duck
11th June 2011, 06:41
No, I don't! Who is he?
Tarka

Tony
11th June 2011, 07:16
Common Purpose is Newspeak (Orwell's 1984). It is doublespeak, holding two opposite views at once..twisting reality, confusing the listener, therefore mind controlling.

Be careful, as we are desperate to find a connectedness, it can be used against us. Common Purpose help us to live in a fantasy world.

Tony

9eagle9
11th June 2011, 14:11
If you mean has New Age been infiltrated by disinfo agents , the ptb, and operatives LIKE Common Purpose. By all means,yes. Its obvious. Heartily supports the notion of any sort of brainwash whether its a spiritual or intellectual property. At this time we have become self policing so people climb on the hook themselves but yes those who run the world are quite happy with how New AGE operates by contradicting itself and confusing. Nearly all of it just re-conditioned old paradigm religions patriachal density that has been reworded to sound 'light'. The create new definitions for things to sound ...mystical.

So do I.

Lite. Lite workers.


If you take what Pie has stated...... New Age is really double speak, if you listen carefully to what is being said. Most light adherents can't tell you what light it, its just something that is said. They will falteringly tell you its energy but not all light is energy. Light is Light. Like a light bulb light, or an adjective for something less dense. Or having the light bulb go off in your head, seeing things previously hidden from your perception. Sunlight can be converted to energy. Light is just a word for some vague misunderstood notion, and because its misunderstood its just glossed over with a catch phrase. Energy can be transmitted via various means but not all light is energy. Light can be converted into energy but the mere act of sending light makes people think they are doing something they really aren't. Pavlolv's dogs would completely understand this.

A person who has done a lot of work on themselves will tell you what the light is that new age has distorted. Its something less dense or heavy. OBVIOUSLY. And that's what truly spiritual people do, work through density. Is it a coincidence that the fabled New Ager comes off as sort of dense? Dumb even. Naive? ...to be a bit more tactful.

Other confusing contradictions. "We are all one, we are all equal" but some of us are dark and singular. Uhm...okay so there's a caste system involved here just like in ....what? Sinners and Saved? Christianity.

It's a psychological program designed to operate through people's filters, and wounds and lend them a false sense of security.

Spirituality is exploration of ones own spirit or Higher Re-Sources where things happen, proofs are provided via demonstration. Spiritual people dont' really have an agenda, they are in a state of exploration. They are their own agenda.

New Age information is pushed pushed pushed, plastered all over with warnings not to look at anything negative or dark. Where typically the answers are found. It's also highly addictive the way things are that make you feel 'good' for brief periods of time. As opposed to Spirituality which is a challenge and often times accompanied by brief bouts of anger and depression as one works their way from their material world conditioning. New Age Spirituality is a oxy moron.

Nothing spiritual about it, its just another script or programming running for people to jump into it. It 'resonates' withe people because its old mainstream religion, with the same core values, dusted up to sound better. It sound familiar to them. A sort of verbal deja vu. There's nothing original about it. Stick a New Age precept out there and it can be cross referenced back to some old Abrahamic religion. Its a way to keep us in the darker aspects of Christianity, Judaism and Islam which were tools used to control without people realizing they are still operating under those precepts. Its the same way here in the US we were indoctrinated with the notion we are the land of the free when its obvious we are not if one has their eyes open, and hasn't allowed their critical thinking skills to be dampened by this sort of brainwash.

From my extensive library of New Age BS I'm going to show you an example. A cards designed by one of our more prominent New Age Pushers Doreen Virtue. Because this stuff is emo addictive, its appropriate that those who push push push it into the mainstream are pushers providing junk for junkies who have not found the inner security that tried and true spirituality promotes.

In any given card lay out the cards which have the sanction of Arch Angel Michael transparently are designed to confuse and cast doubt. A rational intelligent person will pitch them across the room.

The first message we are give is. "Detach from the situation," followed by "keep your eyes on your targeted intention" followed by ...Positive thoughts create positive results. So we are asked to dwell on a situation even as we are asked to detach from it. People accept this bs this confusion as fact when it is blatantly what it is, designed confusion. You cannot do both things at the same time but....people will make the attempt or otherwise try to rationalize this in some bizarre fashion.


"A favorable outcome' which opposes "this situation is already resolved.' haaaa?

"You are protected" but at the same time you must "sheild yourself." Why? If I am protected what need of shielding do I have?

And so on. True spirituality develops not only finely honed intuition but a finely honed intelligence. Spiritual people are intelligent regardless of IQ. People who buy into this junk sound like broken records, without a single inspired thought in their head. They parrot. Rinse and repeat.



These are known as oracle cards, and there's several different sets of them or rather their faces have different designs to give you the impression you are working with different 'energies' but they all say the same thing essentially. There is no rhyme or reason as to how they are laid out where as in a tarot card reading or people who have some insight into how to conduct divination work, when the person doing the reading creates and lays down the circumstances before hand that allow for the synchornicity that is an actual reading. Oh no with oracle cards 'god' just takes care of everything creating this pool of opposing and contradictory messages.

Solphilos
11th June 2011, 14:28
Best post I've read in quite a while here. I would say that for the most part you did a wonderful job in describing 99 percent of the characters and content here on this forum, intentional or not. :thumb:

jimbojp
11th June 2011, 15:03
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Certaily seems to be a TINGE of common purpose everywhere else! Maybye I'm just paranoid.
Common purpose 'training leaders for a post democratic age' What does that mean?