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MargueriteBee
11th June 2011, 05:30
I just did a search for the word joy and nothing came up.
Where do we find joy? What bring us joy?
My joyfulness comes from Love. Joy for me is peace of mind. Where is your joy?
ViralSpiral
11th June 2011, 06:03
Wiki Joy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy)
Thesaurus Joy (http://thesaurus.com/browse/joy)
Free dictionary's Joy (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/joy)
Merriam-Webster's Joy (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/joy)
Where? In family, a leaf, a baby's questioning eyes, a dogs tail-wag, love, licorice, latte, lobsters tails etc., Many many things, but MOSTLy: music
What brings me joy? see above
Where is my joy? see above also. Considering I am Joe Average experiencing 12 000 thoughts per day, it is in the moments of no-thought - which is when I am either meditating or SINGING. It matters not what language, religion or genre. If it resonates, I sing! :) And when I dont understand the words, the intention is still in place....
1LeFYbouKn8
No power to speak, no power to keep silent.
No power to beg, no power to give.
No power to live, no power to die.
No power to rule, with wealth and occult mental powers.
No power to gain intuitive understanding, spiritual wisdom and meditation.
No power to find the way to escape from the world.
He alone has the Power in His Hands. He watches over all.
O Nanak, no one is high or low.
MargueriteBee
11th June 2011, 06:31
Ahhh yes, my favorite singer!!! Her voice is a joy!
Joy is everywhere, just look for it.
ViralSpiral
11th June 2011, 06:46
Joy is everywhere, just look for it.
as I was saying.... :)
right now joy expresses itself seeing your beautiful avatar
MargueriteBee
11th June 2011, 06:54
Thank you!
I feel joy in every breath.
shijo
11th June 2011, 08:58
Ahhh yes, my favorite singer!!! Her voice is a joy!
Joy is everywhere, just look for it.
Joy comes and goes doesnt it? The real joy doesnt, regards Shijo.
greybeard
11th June 2011, 09:08
Spiritual teaching says Joy is our true state and not dependent on the external. (joy body)
Happiness is a different animal and seems to be dependent on cause (external)
Hence the problems of relationships.
You promised you said you would make me happy etc.
Relationships
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&p=195570&viewfull=1#post195570
Chris
MargueriteBee
9th November 2012, 00:55
I have finally got rid of what detracts from my joy! I feel free!
Marin
9th November 2012, 02:53
Nature. Trees. Being outside.
Mountains. Clouds. The warm sun.
Swimming in the ocean.
Walking barefoot.
Silence.
And nothing beats a great hot soak in the tub. :)
gripreaper
9th November 2012, 03:27
I have finally got rid of what detracts from my joy! I feel free!
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Jules
9th November 2012, 05:48
Happiness and joy are somewhat related. If I have a difficult time, I can still find a state of mind to find joy. It comes from within. Some people, no matter what you do for them have no joy or happiness. That's because they learned to behave in a way not conducive to accept joy. Happiness means different things to different people, but I think wanting what you already have and gratitude is a start. I am alive, I feel rain on my face, I have many wonderful things and people that give me comfort and love. The beautiful ocean and trees, a flower, a hug, and viewing the sun rising and setting. I feel joy being to experience the good things.
Lunesoleil
9th November 2012, 18:43
No power to speak, no power to keep silent.
No power to beg, no power to give.
No power to live, no power to die.
No power to rule, with wealth and occult mental powers.
No power to gain intuitive understanding, spiritual wisdom and meditation.
No power to find the way to escape from the world.
He alone has the Power in His Hands. He watches over all.
O Nanak, no one is high or low.
Excellent I really like Santam kaur who brings a really soothing to my mind, thank you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R69o3Se_0og
soleil
9th November 2012, 19:00
i feel pure joy every time even so much as think about or look at my young 2 yr old daughter. :) and of course my fiance. <3
i feel joy when i am in nature, and watching the seasons change right outside my door. sure beats living in the city.
Lunesoleil
21st November 2020, 22:48
In ancient philosophy, joy is to be compared with the term mania (μανια), "delirium" or "madness" present in particular in Plato's Phaedrus. Mania designates the presence of the divine in what it transforms and energizes on the subject: a notion to be compared with enthusiasm (ενθουσιασμός) which affects those who contemplate the good or the beautiful, and who therefore go to- beyond feeling.
Cicero has a conception of it closer to the current meaning: for him, joy is a state of the soul, which, confronted with the possession of a good, does not lose its serenity.
In modern philosophy, new conceptions of joy appear. In the seventeenth century, it was the Dutch philosopher Spinoza who was the great thinker of joy, in particular in his Ethics where joy forms, along with sadness and desire, one of the three fundamental affects of human beings: all other feelings (love, hatred, hope, fear, etc.) are defined as particular forms of joy or sadness. Joy (lætitia in Latin) is defined by Spinoza as "the passage of man from a lesser to a greater perfection", that is to say as an increase in strength and in the self-realization of a human. Joy is thus an increase in our power, linked to the realization of our desires and our effort (conatus in Latin) to persevere in existence.
In Leibniz, we find a distinction between two Latin terms that can be translated into French as “joy”: on the one hand gaudium, the peaceful enjoyment which is not subject to any condition external to the subject, and on the other hand laetitia, the pleasure of the soul linked to possession of a good (in the sense of Cicero, in fact).
In contemporary philosophy, Nietzsche associates joy with the ability to approve existence (amor fati), despite its tragic character, as an expression of the will to power which assumes to be joyful despite the sufferings of life, without take refuge in an illusory happiness (religion, idealism). In the twentieth century, the philosophical currents of personalism and existentialism once again deepen the philosophical notion of joy.
Long enough article, more on the link
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&nv=1&pto=aue&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=fr&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joie&usg=ALkJrhj2-S80JkdIEj0BakEquscDbvMyXg
Wikipedia in English is much less documented than Wikipedia in French
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy
Zirconian
22nd November 2020, 17:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leQnxMshPEU
My wish is to stay always like this, living quietly in a corner of nature. (Claude Monet)
✿ Joy of Nature ✿
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Open Minded Dude
22nd November 2020, 19:53
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Maia Gabrial
22nd November 2020, 20:48
I just did a search for the word joy and nothing came up.
Where do we find joy? What bring us joy?
My joyfulness comes from Love. Joy for me is peace of mind. Where is your joy?
This reminds me of what was shown to me about how to distinguish my own mind's voice to something else speaking in my mind. Your title says it best. This is our natural state of being. So, any thought going through your mind that is anti-you means it's a sure bet that it's something else in your mind.... Recognizing that will send it away....
Thank you for this wonderful message.
rgray222
22nd November 2020, 21:07
We built my son and his girlfriend some end tables for their bedroom, it gave us a great deal of joy to build them and to give them away.
They split up after a while and she took the end tables when she left, apparently, she received some joy (or happiness) from those tables.
Now we get to build two more end tables for my son. Looking forward to it and will no doubt receive joy once again when we give them to him.
I would find a great deal of joy if he enters a stable relationship and keeps these tables for years to come or a lifetime.
Anka
22nd November 2020, 22:17
I felt in my natural state yesterday when I spent almost 4 hours "building" beautiful things, such as various Christmas ornaments, most of which I offer because the joy of those who receive them is enormous.:happythumbsup:
Today I felt the greatest joy, to be able to have the opportunity to write many pages in a letter for a dear friend, it's like writing a "space" letter over time ... it was a true contemplation in a sincere, human connection as there are still billions of connections and beautiful souls on this Earth for which I am grateful. :flower:
DeDukshyn
23rd November 2020, 06:36
To be honest, I am able to have a lot more joy since I learned the art of not giving a ****.
It's not that I don't care about anything ... I just don't give a **** about anything.
Life is far too important to take seriously.
Journeyman
23rd November 2020, 12:16
To be honest, I am able to have a lot more joy since I learned the art of not giving a ****.
It's not that I don't care about anything ... I just don't give a **** about anything.
Life is far too important to take seriously.
After hours scouring message boards full of doom laden theorising I found myself roaring with laughter after seeing someone who had clearly done the same finally snap and take the piss out of the entire thing.
I felt so much better after that, because with it came both a release and the knowledge that obsessing over things which are outside of my control wasn't healthy or a wise use of my time.
What will be, will be. If, as I've seen some argue, a positive attitude can help bring about positive change then that's where I want to be. Helping to make things better, even if it's just one person for one moment.
I hope I get another laugh like that today.
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