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Eric J (Viking)
14th June 2011, 10:07
Bring it on... article from Forbes!

The Next Financial Crisis Will Be Hellish, And It’s On Its Way

“There is definitely going to be another financial crisis around the corner,” says hedge fund legend Mark Mobius, “because we haven’t solved any of the things that caused the previous crisis.”

We’re raising our alert status for the next financial crisis. We already raised it last week after spreads on U.S. credit default swaps started blowing out. We raised it again after seeing the remarks of Mr. Mobius, chief of the $50 billion emerging markets desk at Templeton Asset Management.

Speaking in Tokyo, he pointed to derivatives, the financial hairball of futures, options, and swaps in which nearly all the world’s major banks are tangled up.

Estimates on the amount of derivatives out there worldwide vary. An oft-heard estimate is $600 trillion. That squares with Mobius’ guess of 10 times the world’s annual GDP. “Are the derivatives regulated?” asks Mobius. “No. Are you still getting growth in derivatives? Yes.”

In other words, something along the lines of securitized mortgages is lurking out there, ready to trigger another crisis as in 2007-08.

What could it be? We’ll offer up a good guess, one the market is discounting.

Seldom does a stock index rise so much, for so little reason, as the Dow did on the open Tuesday morning: 115 Dow points on a rumor that Greece is going to get a second bailout.

Let’s step back for a moment: The Greek crisis is first and foremost about the German and French banks that were foolish enough to lend money to Greece in the first place. What sort of derivative contracts tied to Greek debt are they sitting on? What worldwide mayhem would ensue if Greece didn’t pay back 100 centimes on the euro?

http://blogs.forbes.com/greatspeculations/2011/06/01/the-next-financial-crisis-will-be-hellish-and-its-on-its-way/

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viking

TraineeHuman
14th June 2011, 10:48
Leaving the GFC completely to one side, an officially acknowledged depression coming very soon will unfortunately be unavoidable. It's simply a result of the Baby Boomers retiring. Within 10 years over 30% of the population in all Western countries will be retirees. For decades we've had rising home prices, but that was because throughout that period we had a steadily rising workforce, who could compete to pay more and more for homes. That's all coming to an end now. Retirees as a group don't spend much, hence there's a huge drop in consumer spending coming.

Etherios
14th June 2011, 20:35
Leaving the GFC completely to one side, an officially acknowledged depression coming very soon will unfortunately be unavoidable. It's simply a result of the Baby Boomers retiring. Within 10 years over 30% of the population in all Western countries will be retirees. For decades we've had rising home prices, but that was because throughout that period we had a steadily rising workforce, who could compete to pay more and more for homes. That's all coming to an end now. Retirees as a group don't spend much, hence there's a huge drop in consumer spending coming.

West societies are getting the consumer power stolen from them. They keep taking more and more out of the consumer public and send it god knows where. But economy is still dieing.

Lettherebelight
14th June 2011, 21:13
Yes, things are messy, with no end in sight..
This is from last year...but it's still true today, even more so!

thSTpGnWEAs

I have also heard that when the quarterly reports are due in July (to the IMF), the Japanese crisis (probable 0 growth), with its consequential global financial impact, will no longer be able to remain hidden, and the dominoes will fall.

Darla Ken Pearce
14th June 2011, 23:12
My Father would call this premise "balloon juice" and so do I. None of these predictions of doom and gloom forecasts need come true. We are receiving updates telling us otherwise but that's okay, its a choice in how you see this cycle ending. Some believe it's the end of the world and for them, perhaps, it is.

Each of us must find resonance wherever it feels right. You can have this dark future or you can choose to ascend along with the Earth. It is for sure, she is Ascending. You will be the one to make this decision for yourself and no one else will be making it for you ~ no matter what happens.

As we are changing timelines at present ~ the Universal Law of Attraction says that we will bring a matching vibration towards us (our future) that will match our own frequency range completely whether it is this darkness or light.

This financial system is part of the last remnants of a dark 3D construct and illusion that is ending now as Earth ascends and moves smoothly into a new timeline at a much higher vibration. We will each make this transition either into the same 3D reality or a new higher one that is open to us now.

It needs to be understood, that by living in FEAR it will make it extremely difficult to make the transition. Fear is what must surely be overcome in order to go forth into a brighter timeline and future. Keep in mind that these old systems cannot be saved. Nor can they make the transition that is required to continue.

The fiat system was built on thin air and it's ending for good and has run itself into the ground through abuses. This is what the great panic is about for the old "Powers That Were."

We are watching it end now. When you show fear as this thread does ~ it can become self-fulfilling and then it begins to feed upon itself and hold your progress back as you are overcome by fear. This has no value and is not good for you.

Remember whatever you give your emotions and attention to BECOMES your reality. Do you really want this to be yours?

This old financial system is supposed to fail and fall to the ground because it is corrupt to the core and it cannot translate into the new energies of the higher frequencies open to us. Do say goodbye to the IRS and Federal Reserve as they are to be gone soon, too. It's a choice to believe what you will.

This theme is far fetched and not worth a single breath out of your life unless you believe you really have time to waste on any further darkness. Much love! xoxoxox

Unified Serenity
14th June 2011, 23:22
Well said Darla. It's a classic energetic tactic to drive the energy you need to the purpose you want. The only problem of course is most people are not centering themselves and repeating, "Stay calm, do not fear, walk in love". No, they are rushing to get their 2.2 children off to school before they begin their busy day of work, come home to quickly fix dinner, clean up the place, wash up the kids and themselves, watch 3 hours of television and flop into bed. They hear the fear news on digital tv inducing more fear into their lives, and them "BLAMO" something happens and it's mass chaos, more hyped up emotion FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR, and they are afraid. Sometimes there really is a boogy man and a plan. Can all the positive thinking stop them? I've seen amazing things and hearts turn in my life. Do we have a chance? I think so, but we must be that change, live in centered love for others and ourselves. The scales don't look good, but every day more are waking up. I just wonder how we handle the next big "event". It might come down to individual evolution and transmutations caused by divine energy within each.

Lochinvar
15th June 2011, 00:59
None of these predictions of doom and gloom forecasts need come true.

This old financial system is supposed to fail and fall to the ground because it is corrupt to the core and it cannot translate into the new energies of the higher frequencies open to us. Do say goodbye to the IRS and Federal Reserve as they are to be gone soon, too.




Do these statements not contradict each other? I'm glad that you're not in fear. Does this mean that you have made provision for a collapse and that you see it as a good thing (I think it might at least bring some good changes)?

Is there anyone out there on a timeline where the US national debt is not in the region of $14.3 trillion?

GlassSteagallfan
15th June 2011, 05:53
Instead of financial collapse, we just give it back to the bankster....

1:32


http://www.larouchepac.com/node/18455

Watching from Cyprus
15th June 2011, 08:33
Thank you Darla,
Very very wise words and so true.
Love Peter

Watching from Cyprus
15th June 2011, 08:41
that is truly great news for the world and a huge blow to the Elite... thank you for this GlassSteagalfan

Eric J (Viking)
15th June 2011, 09:05
My Father would call this premise "balloon juice" and so do I. None of these predictions of doom and gloom forecasts need come true. We are receiving updates telling us otherwise but that's okay, its a choice in how you see this cycle ending. Some believe it's the end of the world and for them, perhaps, it is.

Each of us must find resonance wherever it feels right. You can have this dark future or you can choose to ascend along with the Earth. It is for sure, she is Ascending. You will be the one to make this decision for yourself and no one else will be making it for you ~ no matter what happens.

As we are changing timelines at present ~ the Universal Law of Attraction says that we will bring a matching vibration towards us (our future) that will match our own frequency range completely whether it is this darkness or light.

This financial system is part of the last remnants of a dark 3D construct and illusion that is ending now as Earth ascends and moves smoothly into a new timeline at a much higher vibration. We will each make this transition either into the same 3D reality or a new higher one that is open to us now.

It needs to be understood, that by living in FEAR it will make it extremely difficult to make the transition. Fear is what must surely be overcome in order to go forth into a brighter timeline and future. Keep in mind that these old systems cannot be saved. Nor can they make the transition that is required to continue.

The fiat system was built on thin air and it's ending for good and has run itself into the ground through abuses. This is what the great panic is about for the old "Powers That Were."

We are watching it end now. When you show fear as this thread does ~ it can become self-fulfilling and then it begins to feed upon itself and hold your progress back as you are overcome by fear. This has no value and is not good for you.

Remember whatever you give your emotions and attention to BECOMES your reality. Do you really want this to be yours?

This old financial system is supposed to fail and fall to the ground because it is corrupt to the core and it cannot translate into the new energies of the higher frequencies open to us. Do say goodbye to the IRS and Federal Reserve as they are to be gone soon, too. It's a choice to believe what you will.

This theme is far fetched and not worth a single breath out of your life unless you believe you really have time to waste on any further darkness. Much love! xoxoxox


Excellent post Darla ...

Lets hope the 'old financial ways' fall sooner, rather than later...then we can start the new way as soon as.... great times ahead...I can feel the change coming>>>

viking

Lettherebelight
15th June 2011, 16:38
My Father would call this premise "balloon juice" and so do I. None of these predictions of doom and gloom forecasts need come true. We are receiving updates telling us otherwise but that's okay, its a choice in how you see this cycle ending. Some believe it's the end of the world and for them, perhaps, it is.

Each of us must find resonance wherever it feels right. You can have this dark future or you can choose to ascend along with the Earth. It is for sure, she is Ascending. You will be the one to make this decision for yourself and no one else will be making it for you ~ no matter what happens.

As we are changing timelines at present ~ the Universal Law of Attraction says that we will bring a matching vibration towards us (our future) that will match our own frequency range completely whether it is this darkness or light.

This financial system is part of the last remnants of a dark 3D construct and illusion that is ending now as Earth ascends and moves smoothly into a new timeline at a much higher vibration. We will each make this transition either into the same 3D reality or a new higher one that is open to us now.

It needs to be understood, that by living in FEAR it will make it extremely difficult to make the transition. Fear is what must surely be overcome in order to go forth into a brighter timeline and future. Keep in mind that these old systems cannot be saved. Nor can they make the transition that is required to continue.

The fiat system was built on thin air and it's ending for good and has run itself into the ground through abuses. This is what the great panic is about for the old "Powers That Were."

We are watching it end now. When you show fear as this thread does ~ it can become self-fulfilling and then it begins to feed upon itself and hold your progress back as you are overcome by fear. This has no value and is not good for you.

Remember whatever you give your emotions and attention to BECOMES your reality. Do you really want this to be yours?

This old financial system is supposed to fail and fall to the ground because it is corrupt to the core and it cannot translate into the new energies of the higher frequencies open to us. Do say goodbye to the IRS and Federal Reserve as they are to be gone soon, too. It's a choice to believe what you will.

This theme is far fetched and not worth a single breath out of your life unless you believe you really have time to waste on any further darkness. Much love! xoxoxox


Who's afraid? No one here has said that...we're glad corrupt financial institutes may collapse! The sooner the better.

I think you're preaching to the choir here, Darla...we are not afraid.

It think it's funny when you say 'much love' after accusing everyone posting here on a possible global financial meltdown, as being full of hot air and wasting their life. If one feels that way about a thread, why not just steer clear?

Thanks Viking for starting this thread, and for link to the original Forbes article (source of thread title). I'm sure you did not intend to fear monger.

Eric J (Viking)
15th June 2011, 18:24
My Father would call this premise "balloon juice" and so do I. None of these predictions of doom and gloom forecasts need come true. We are receiving updates telling us otherwise but that's okay, its a choice in how you see this cycle ending. Some believe it's the end of the world and for them, perhaps, it is.

Each of us must find resonance wherever it feels right. You can have this dark future or you can choose to ascend along with the Earth. It is for sure, she is Ascending. You will be the one to make this decision for yourself and no one else will be making it for you ~ no matter what happens.

As we are changing timelines at present ~ the Universal Law of Attraction says that we will bring a matching vibration towards us (our future) that will match our own frequency range completely whether it is this darkness or light.

This financial system is part of the last remnants of a dark 3D construct and illusion that is ending now as Earth ascends and moves smoothly into a new timeline at a much higher vibration. We will each make this transition either into the same 3D reality or a new higher one that is open to us now.

It needs to be understood, that by living in FEAR it will make it extremely difficult to make the transition. Fear is what must surely be overcome in order to go forth into a brighter timeline and future. Keep in mind that these old systems cannot be saved. Nor can they make the transition that is required to continue.

The fiat system was built on thin air and it's ending for good and has run itself into the ground through abuses. This is what the great panic is about for the old "Powers That Were."

We are watching it end now. When you show fear as this thread does ~ it can become self-fulfilling and then it begins to feed upon itself and hold your progress back as you are overcome by fear. This has no value and is not good for you.

Remember whatever you give your emotions and attention to BECOMES your reality. Do you really want this to be yours?

This old financial system is supposed to fail and fall to the ground because it is corrupt to the core and it cannot translate into the new energies of the higher frequencies open to us. Do say goodbye to the IRS and Federal Reserve as they are to be gone soon, too. It's a choice to believe what you will.

This theme is far fetched and not worth a single breath out of your life unless you believe you really have time to waste on any further darkness. Much love! xoxoxox


Who's afraid? No one here has said that...we're glad corrupt financial institutes may collapse! The sooner the better.

I think you're preaching to the choir here, Darla...we are not afraid.

It think it's funny when you say 'much love' after accusing everyone posting here on a possible global financial meltdown, as being full of hot air and wasting their life. If one feels that way about a thread, why not just steer clear?

Thanks Viking for starting this thread, and for link to the original Forbes article (source of thread title). I'm sure you did not intend to fear monger.

Thanks Letterlight ... moi, fear monger...lol...don't need me to instill fear here!! ha ha

I think Darla got the wrong end of the stick...but yes almost all of us here will welcome the coming collapse, so we can kickstart the 'new way' ... hence my comment 'bring it on'

And it soooo needs to happen soon...!

I think the ptw should just call it a day...they know they won't win this...the light is getting brighter by the day...the dark is diminishing.

viking

Lettherebelight
15th June 2011, 18:36
Right. Gotcha, Viking. There may be difficult times ahead, but...

V5ZWNOm4r2k

Eric J (Viking)
15th June 2011, 18:46
Right. Gotcha, Viking. There may be difficult times ahead, but...

V5ZWNOm4r2k

LOL... love it

WE ARE STLL HERE AND WE ARE NOT AFRAID!

viking