Sleep paralysis and strange tone

[Anno]

This is my third attempt at posting this. The gods seem to be against me today...

I woke up mid-way through a dream last night and found myself semi-awake. Meaning I couldn't move. What people call sleep paralysis. The last thing I remember from the dream was seeing a silhouette of a dog type shape and thinking 'Jackal'.

As my eyelids closed and I was back in the darkness I heard a deafening tone. I've played with a tone generator online and it was between 326.63Hz E and 349.23Hz F. It was slightly pulsing, like woooow. It was so loud and deafening that I thought it was the fire alarm and managed to get my eyelids open again, with much effort. It felt the same as when I had general anesthetic and tried to fight it.

When I did it stopped. When my eyelids closed again, the tone came back. It was definitely inside my head and deafeningly loud. Eventually I lost the fight with my eyelids and the tone got faster until it became one long tone.

Like this: wooow..............wooow..............wooow............wooow...wooow...wooow...wooow...woooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...

Then it was morning and I was awake. I don't remember the dream except seeing the Jackal so I don't know if the two are related.

Have any of you heard of this kind of tone before or had a similar experience?

[Carmody]

Read the Charles phenomena thread. in the Charles area.

That is very close to the tone I was dealing with, starting Feb 9th, the start or first day of the Ninth wave of the long count. Who knows why it was happening.

Other things were going on as well.

The level or intensity of the tone was extreme.

[aonascimento]

This is my third attempt at posting this. The gods seem to be against me today...

I woke up mid-way through a dream last night and found myself semi-awake. Meaning I couldn't move. What people call sleep paralysis. The last thing I remember from the dream was seeing a silhouette of a dog type shape and thinking 'Jackal'.

As my eyelids closed and I was back in the darkness I heard a deafening tone. I've played with a tone generator online and it was between 326.63Hz E and 349.23Hz F. It was slightly pulsing, like woooow. It was so loud and deafening that I thought it was the fire alarm and managed to get my eyelids open again, with much effort. It felt the same as when I had general anesthetic and tried to fight it.

When I did it stopped. When my eyelids closed again, the tone came back. It was definitely inside my head and deafeningly loud. Eventually I lost the fight with my eyelids and the tone got faster until it became one long tone.

Like this: wooow..............wooow..............wooow............wooow...wooow...wooow...wooow...woooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...

Then it was morning and I was awake. I don't remember the dream except seeing the Jackal so I don't know if the two are related.

Have any of you heard of this kind of tone before or had a similar experience?

You´re about going out of body consciously. First time it happened to me, i got scared to death, but then i could control the frequency of the oscillation i was feeling. The higher the tone, the less you feel it, then you start floating in your OBE. That´s it. Let the fear go away and enjoy your trip.

[Fred Steeves]

You´re about going out of body consciously. First time it happened to me, i got scared to death, but then i could control the frequency of the oscillation i was feeling. The higher the tone, the less you feel it, then you start floating in your OBE. That´s it. Let the fear go away and enjoy your trip.


That sounds about right. The first few times I experienced that it freaked the living s**t out of me. It's kind of like jumping out of an airplane from 13,000 feet, once you do it a few times, the shock wears off and you can really begin to have fun and explore the possibilities.

Have fun Anno! Keep us updated.


Cheers,
Fred

[Ria]

I have woken in a state of paralysis to find beings working on my spine.
The loud sounds can be related to coming back in to your body.
I do not know if this is helpful.
The main thing is how did you feel about it?

[Anno]

Read the Charles phenomena thread. in the Charles area.

That is very close to the tone I was dealing with, starting Feb 9th, the start or first day of the Ninth wave of the long count. Who knows why it was happening.

Other things were going on as well.

The level or intensity of the tone was extreme.

The animal totem dreams I've been having and the shadowman that turned up in my house do all coincide with me joining here. The shadowman came right after I posted in the Charles thread first saying I didn't think TPTB had anything to do with it and it was more likely to be an internal power struggle. I'll go find the thread and have a look.



You´re about going out of body consciously. First time it happened to me, i got scared to death, but then i could control the frequency of the oscillation i was feeling. The higher the tone, the less you feel it, then you start floating in your OBE. That´s it. Let the fear go away and enjoy your trip.



That sounds about right. The first few times I experienced that it freaked the living s**t out of me. It's kind of like jumping out of an airplane from 13,000 feet, once you do it a few times, the shock wears off and you can really begin to have fun and explore the possibilities.

Have fun Anno! Keep us updated.

Cheers,
Fred

It'd be cool if you guys are right. I'm undecided on the whole astral travel thing. I have fallen out of my body once so I know the theory is sound and I recalled a memory of entering my body when I was about 18 months old. I think the previous occupant changed his mind. If I do get out, I'll be off to the moon to check out these reptilians. Is there any danger that you can get stuck outside of your body?


I have woken in a state of paralysis to find beings working on my spine. The loud sounds can be related to coming back in to your body. I do not know if this is helpful. The main thing is how did you feel about it?

I didn't feel anything. The noise itself was uncomfortable but I don't like loud noises of any kind and always feel... ...crushed? Hard to explain, but loud noise bothers me. Other than that I just was observing it and wondering what was going on. I gave up on fear a long time ago, it never helps.

[Malachi]

i had the same experience about 3 years ago. I woke up in the middle of the night, totally conscious, but I couldn't move anything except my eyelids. I have to say i totally freaked out and I closed my eyes, until, about 30-60 seconds later I could move again. It was a great feeling and I fell asleep almost instantly, in spite of my racing heart. But I did not remember any sound at all.

Sometimes I hear a very-very low tone buzzing sound at night, not too loud, just enought to keep me awake and that's it. I thought that it's maybe some big machine far away, but now i'm not sure.

[toothpick]

Great thread Anno.
In my experience I was completely paralyzed and wide awake.
Tried to get my wife to observe me, and, I was going to wiggle a finger, or move an eyelash.
It didn,t work because she could not stay awake.
It caused a bit of a row between us for a while, she thought I was crazy.
I researched it down to sleep paralyses.
But as far as i,m concerned there is a lot more to it than they are letting on.

toothpick

[juliagulia55]

I keep coming out of sleep paralysis and finding beings (some look human) in my room coming towards me, some have been less threatening but most of them don't seem nice! If I lash out they usually fade away. This happened last night and I screamed and my dog was looking towards where the being had been so I think he saw it too. I've been advised not to panic and send love and light to the beings or surround myself with white light etc but when it happens I don't have enough time to think, they seem to hurl themselves towards me and then dissapear and it's scary stuff! I don't want to stop the paralysis altogether because I want to learn to astral travel and I know sleep paralysis can be a spring board for that.

Could it be that I am going to the astral plane in my sleep, not remembering and bringing these beings back? Or are they just turning up in my room and scaring the crap out of me?! :eek:

[Fred Steeves]

It'd be cool if you guys are right. I'm undecided on the whole astral travel thing. I have fallen out of my body once so I know the theory is sound and I recalled a memory of entering my body when I was about 18 months old. I think the previous occupant changed his mind. If I do get out, I'll be off to the moon to check out these reptilians. Is there any danger that you can get stuck outside of your body?



Hey, that's good you've already done it, you've got a head start. From my experience anyway, it took much practice once out. It started just by sliding out of body up and down the length of the bed and then back. Once that stopped freaking me out it was like going to class. Over the "course" (ha ha) of a few months it went from sliding out and back in, to floating wobbly round the room, to navigating round the house, to outside practice, to eventually I could just shoot straight up like 60,000 feet, stop on a dime, and enjoy the view. That's partially why I used the freefall analogy, the progression of learning to use the air to "fly" goes from wobbly, to like a bird.

I've never felt apprehension in the least of not being able to get back, and never heard of anyone who did. Relax and enjoy.

Oh, and by the way, I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.


Cheers,
Fred

[Fred Steeves]

Tried to get my wife to observe me, and, I was going to wiggle a finger, or move an eyelash.
It didn,t work because she could not stay awake.
It caused a bit of a row between us for a while, she thought I was crazy.



That's funny! Been there, done that.:yo:

Sometimes it's better just to put a cork in it and watch the damn sit com.


Cheers,
Fred

[Sync]

Could you speak of your emotions felt during this encounter?

One way to think about it may be in terms of archetypes; symbols.

Anubis... Anno-bis Perhaps he is checking on his namesake?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Tutanhkamun_jackal.jpg

http://terrellmims.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/anubis_idol.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Anubis_attending_the_mummy_of_Sennedjem.jpg

From and ancient Egyptian perspective, Anubis (Ancient Greek: Ἄνουβις) is the Greek name for a jackal-headed god associated with mummification and the afterlife in ancient Egyptian religion.

In the ancient Egyptian language, Anubis is known as Inpu, (variously spelled Anup, Anpu, and Ienpw).

He takes names in connection with his funerary role, such as He who is upon his mountain, which underscores his importance as a protector of the deceased and their tombs.

Like many ancient Egyptian deities, Anubis assumes different roles in various contexts, and no public procession in Egypt would be conducted without an Anubis to march at the head.

Anubis' wife is a goddess called Anput, his female aspect, and their daughter is the goddess Kebechet.

The critical weighing of the heart scene in the Book of the Dead also shows Anubis performing the measurement that determined the worthiness of the deceased to enter the realm of the dead (the underworld)

One of the roles of Anubis was "Guardian of the Scales".[9] Deciding the weight of "truth" by weighing the Heart against Ma'at, who was often depicted as an ostrich feather, Anubis dictated the fate of souls.

Anubis is a son of Ra in early myths.

In later times, during the Ptolemaic period, Anubis was merged with the Greek god Hermes, becoming Hermanubis.

Hermanubis also appears in the alchemical and hermetical literature of the Middle Ages and the Renaissance.

Anubis was sometimes associated with Sirius in the heavens, and Cerberus in Hades.

Where did these legends come from? Are they rooted in historical fact; an interpretation of events that could not be explained in scientific terms at the time?

Who knows.

[dukes4monny]

My apologies if this is taking the this interesting thread off topic, but I am just starting out with the whole 'out of body experience' thing........and am wondering what is / are the best method(s) to try for a newby?
I've tried the 'rope climbing' method, but got really disoriented and snapped straight back. Should I just persist and practice practice practice?

Thanks in advance for any pointers.

[Jake]

This is my third attempt at posting this. The gods seem to be against me today...

I woke up mid-way through a dream last night and found myself semi-awake. Meaning I couldn't move. What people call sleep paralysis. The last thing I remember from the dream was seeing a silhouette of a dog type shape and thinking 'Jackal'.

As my eyelids closed and I was back in the darkness I heard a deafening tone. I've played with a tone generator online and it was between 326.63Hz E and 349.23Hz F. It was slightly pulsing, like woooow. It was so loud and deafening that I thought it was the fire alarm and managed to get my eyelids open again, with much effort. It felt the same as when I had general anesthetic and tried to fight it.

When I did it stopped. When my eyelids closed again, the tone came back. It was definitely inside my head and deafeningly loud. Eventually I lost the fight with my eyelids and the tone got faster until it became one long tone.

Like this: wooow..............wooow..............wooow............wooow...wooow...wooow...wooow...woooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...

Then it was morning and I was awake. I don't remember the dream except seeing the Jackal so I don't know if the two are related.

Have any of you heard of this kind of tone before or had a similar experience?

Anno, Hello.

("Hypnagogia" the Unique State of Consciousness Between Wakefulness and Sleep) As you may know by now, Sleep paralysis occurs to each and every one of us, each and every time we sleep. It is our bodies way of keeping us from hurting ourselves while we are in the dream-states. We do not 'act' out our dreams in our sleep because of our bodies natural ability to paralyze itself. If you can stay awake (trance) while your body does this, you will feel a thick, cold adreniline type 'rush' indicating the loss of muscle tone. It usually creates an 'excited' or 'enhanced' or 'heightened' state of awareness. Mostly, though, people will wake into paralysis spontaneously. As stated by someone already, this is a platform for OBE. The OBE is a natural untapped potential for all of us. It is a real phenomenon. I have been plagued by the spontaneous OBE for as long as I remember. It has only been recently that I embraced the experiences.

I have seen doctors regarding my sleep paralysis issues. I have had sleep studies done by some of the best sleep medicine specialists in the field. They are always quick to explain hypnopompic and hypnogogic 'hallucinations' with regards sleep paralysis. "Alpha Wave Intrusion Indicating Arousal" is what they ended up calling it. A derivative of REM sleep behavior disorder. (Acting out dreams while sleeping) except I was being aroused into a waking state while still in deep theta,, and paralyzed.

There are lots of Audio and visual and kinesthetic phenomenon that will occur from that state. In that state we are much more acutely aware of our energy bodies and energy body sensations. Most people will experience intense vibrations and energy flow phenomenon. Others will see and hear lights and sounds. It is highly personal, what you come accross when first endeavoring to project into the non-physical.

That is what is happening. You are having OBEs. The oscillating tone that you heard was 'getting in tune' no?
"Like this: wooow..............wooow..............wooow....... .....wooow...wooow...wooow...wooow...woooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..."

Our physical bodies have an energy body counterpart that follows the rules of energy/vibration/frequency/fluidity etc... We have to start understanding our physical world through these terms. Especially if we intend to master the astral and our energy bodies. The astral is our birthright.

I go into vast details about this stuff in my book, The Book of Jacob. you can view it or download it from: www.thebookofjacob.webs.com

There is a story unfolding throughout the universe, and we are part of it. The next chapter will be about Human Potential. Part of our 'awakening' into consciousness will be the realization of our truly amazing abilities and potentials.

Best regards, Jake.

[Jake]

My apologies if this is taking the this interesting thread off topic, but I am just starting out with the whole 'out of body experience' thing........and am wondering what is / are the best method(s) to try for a newby?
I've tried the 'rope climbing' method, but got really disoriented and snapped straight back. Should I just persist and practice practice practice?

Thanks in advance for any pointers.

Dukes4monny,, excellent question. There are lots of approaches to take when endeavoring to project into the non-physical. Learning to quiet your mind and drop into trance, is the first step. Mind/Awake body/asleep. It takes practice, yes. Another thing you can do (if you don't already) is take up an energy work routine. Energy work is easy, it is like exercise for you energy body. Increasing your awareness of your energy body, and doing a normal energy work routine will stimulate primary and secondary energy centers and build pathways for energetic flow. It will also 'loosen' up your energy body, making for a seamless 'exit'.

Try this one, Robert Bruce is the real deal. http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/new-energy-ways.html

Medation/energy work/trance/OBE.. In that order. Best regards, Jake.

www.thebookofjacob.webs.com

[Anno]

[...]I researched it down to sleep paralyses.
But as far as i,m concerned there is a lot more to it than they are letting on.

They say it's a safety mechanism don't they. To stop you acting out your dreams and hurting yourself. I love the idea that the falling feeling you get sometimes as you fall asleep that jolts you awake, is a throw back to when we lived in trees and it stops us from falling out in our sleep. I always try to remember that any theory relating to the body can be true but doesn't have to negate what is happening to the spirit. The two are separate.


I keep coming out of sleep paralysis and finding beings (some look human) in my room coming towards me, some have been less threatening but most of them don't seem nice![...]


I recall a theory that this too is a safety mechanism. They're meant to be projections of your self to stop you doing things you're not ready for. I think it has to do with manifestation. If you go off into the astral in fear you're going to manifest fear, so it's best to scare yourself back into your body.


Could you speak of your emotions felt during this encounter?[...]

I don't full recall the dream itself. It wasn't a positive one. All I remember is being in a field with a group of other people. There was a campfire and 'things' were trying to encroach on us. The last thing I remember seeing is the silhouette of the Jackal. It was sat under a bench and looking at me although I couldn't make out any features. Each time I go to say Jackal, my mind throws out Dingo, too. If you check my previous threads you'll see one called something like Spider Dreams. They are the first two animal totem dreams I had since joining here. This one being the third. The first was actually two back to back dreams about spiders, then a few days later I had one with shinto style fox spirits.

All three dreams were dark in nature but I didn't really feel anything. As soon as I become aware, any emotions go away and I'm just there observing what is happening and thinking about it, which is what usually wakes me up.

Anno-bis made me laugh btw. I've seen Anubis. Last year I had a dog die and I asked him to guide her. I was stood in the back garden and after I asked I saw a cloud in the shape of an angel being chased by one that looked like a dog. Slyphs?


My apologies if this is taking the this interesting thread off topic, but I am just starting out with the whole 'out of body experience' thing........and am wondering what is / are the best method(s) to try for a newby?
I've tried the 'rope climbing' method, but got really disoriented and snapped straight back. Should I just persist and practice practice practice?

Thanks in advance for any pointers.

I don't really care about staying on topic, aslong as it's interesting! I too would like to know more about this. I've never consciously tried astral projection. I'm more of a theorist. I like to read and learn then let things happen in their own time.

[Anno]

The oscillating tone that you heard was 'getting in tune' no?[...]

The note or tone was constant, I guess the modulation I heard would best be described as power or volume. It's hard to explain in words. At first it was just woooow. But when I couldn't open my eyes anymore the woows started to get closer together and sped up until there was just one long wooooooow.

On a moderator side note... each time I click reply on this thread, it remembers all of the other multi-quotes I've done so I get every last one appearing in the reply box each time I reply. =/

[dukes4monny]

My apologies if this is taking the this interesting thread off topic, but I am just starting out with the whole 'out of body experience' thing........and am wondering what is / are the best method(s) to try for a newby?
I've tried the 'rope climbing' method, but got really disoriented and snapped straight back. Should I just persist and practice practice practice?

Thanks in advance for any pointers.

Dukes4monny,, excellent question. There are lots of approaches to take when endeavoring to project into the non-physical. Learning to quiet your mind and drop into trance, is the first step. Mind/Awake body/asleep. It takes practice, yes. Another thing you can do (if you don't already) is take up an energy work routine. Energy work is easy, it is like exercise for you energy body. Increasing your awareness of your energy body, and doing a normal energy work routine will stimulate primary and secondary energy centers and build pathways for energetic flow. It will also 'loosen' up your energy body, making for a seamless 'exit'.

Try this one, Robert Bruce is the real deal. http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/new-energy-ways.html

Medation/energy work/trance/OBE.. In that order. Best regards, Jake.

www.thebookofjacob.webs.com

Jake, many thanks for these pointers. The two links you gave look very useful. The meditation and complete relaxation for me is not a problem........I'll have to implement an energy work routine and hopefully this will help me on my way :cool:

[aranuk]

[QUOTE=aonascimento;246046]

You´re about going out of body consciously. First time it happened to me, i got scared to death, but then i could control the frequency of the oscillation i was feeling. The higher the tone, the less you feel it, then you start floating in your OBE. That´s it. Let the fear go away and enjoy your trip.

Good God Fred have you twice ran out of fuel piloting an airplane? :eek:
What a brave man you are! I could ONLY jump out if it ran out of fuel or lost a wing or something serious we were going to crash. But never for fun, good Lord.

Stan

[Fred Steeves]

Good God Fred have you twice ran out of fuel piloting an airplane? :eek:
What a brave man you are! I could ONLY jump out if it ran out of fuel or lost a wing or something serious we were going to crash. But never for fun, good Lord.

Stan


That's pretty funny Stan. Actually the number's more like 60, and I keep meaning to pay more attention to the damn fuelgauge! Needless to say the safe driver insurance discount is out the window. :no: Details, details...


Cheers,
Fred

[Carmody]

"I'll be off to the moon to check out these reptilians."

Word is: Do not go to the moon.

Off limits.

same as Dulce base.

Do not go.

[Anno]

"I'll be off to the moon to check out these reptilians."

Word is: Do not go to the moon.

Off limits.

same as Dulce base.

Do not go.

What do you think might happen? And what dangers are there when you're in your astral body? Wouldn't I just wake up if something bad happened?

[aonascimento]

The note or tone was constant, I guess the modulation I heard would best be described as power or volume. It's hard to explain in words. At first it was just woooow. But when I couldn't open my eyes anymore the woows started to get closer together and sped up until there was just one long wooooooow.

On a moderator side note... each time I click reply on this thread, it remembers all of the other multi-quotes I've done so I get every last one appearing in the reply box each time I reply. =/

If you, just by thought, try to raise this frequency wooow, more like a motorcycle that is upping its rotations, and keeping yourself steady, all of a sudden you´ll be rolling out of you body. The problem is when you feel such wooooow impacting and vibrating on your physical body. That´s happens in the begining.

[sygh]

Read the Charles phenomena thread. in the Charles area.

That is very close to the tone I was dealing with, starting Feb 9th, the start or first day of the Ninth wave of the long count. Who knows why it was happening.

Other things were going on as well.

The level or intensity of the tone was extreme.

The animal totem dreams I've been having and the shadowman that turned up in my house do all coincide with me joining here. The shadowman came right after I posted in the Charles thread first saying I didn't think TPTB had anything to do with it and it was more likely to be an internal power struggle. I'll go find the thread and have a look.



You´re about going out of body consciously. First time it happened to me, i got scared to death, but then i could control the frequency of the oscillation i was feeling. The higher the tone, the less you feel it, then you start floating in your OBE. That´s it. Let the fear go away and enjoy your trip.



That sounds about right. The first few times I experienced that it freaked the living s**t out of me. It's kind of like jumping out of an airplane from 13,000 feet, once you do it a few times, the shock wears off and you can really begin to have fun and explore the possibilities.

Have fun Anno! Keep us updated.

Cheers,
Fred

It'd be cool if you guys are right. I'm undecided on the whole astral travel thing. I have fallen out of my body once so I know the theory is sound and I recalled a memory of entering my body when I was about 18 months old. I think the previous occupant changed his mind. If I do get out, I'll be off to the moon to check out these reptilians. Is there any danger that you can get stuck outside of your body?


I have woken in a state of paralysis to find beings working on my spine. The loud sounds can be related to coming back in to your body. I do not know if this is helpful. The main thing is how did you feel about it?

I didn't feel anything. The noise itself was uncomfortable but I don't like loud noises of any kind and always feel... ...crushed? Hard to explain, but loud noise bothers me. Other than that I just was observing it and wondering what was going on. I gave up on fear a long time ago, it never helps.

This is so interesting... My son has been having the exact same experiences, to include the noise, sleep paralysis, AND the "shadow man" in the corner watching him. Amazing.

I have astro-traveled (blipped out of body) but never experienced the loud sound you have spoken of. Keep us posted.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

My apologies if this is taking the this interesting thread off topic, but I am just starting out with the whole 'out of body experience' thing........and am wondering what is / are the best method(s) to try for a newby?
I've tried the 'rope climbing' method, but got really disoriented and snapped straight back. Should I just persist and practice practice practice?

Thanks in advance for any pointers.

Dukes4monny,, excellent question. There are lots of approaches to take when endeavoring to project into the non-physical. Learning to quiet your mind and drop into trance, is the first step. Mind/Awake body/asleep. It takes practice, yes. Another thing you can do (if you don't already) is take up an energy work routine. Energy work is easy, it is like exercise for you energy body. Increasing your awareness of your energy body, and doing a normal energy work routine will stimulate primary and secondary energy centers and build pathways for energetic flow. It will also 'loosen' up your energy body, making for a seamless 'exit'.

Try this one, Robert Bruce is the real deal. http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/new-energy-ways.html

Medation/energy work/trance/OBE.. In that order. Best regards, Jake.

www.thebookofjacob.webs.com

ooo h Robert Bruce Thank you !

[Anno]

I still want to know what happens when you go to The Moon and Ducle base. Anyone been?

[core2011]

Ive had this sleep paralysis all my life and it was real frightening at first. I have even had when I fell asleep on a train and could not move but had my eyes open I could see the guy across from me looking at me really strangely ha ha. I have learnt now that when its happening which is at least two to three times a week I can make a slight mumble and my fiancé recognises that its happening to me and wakes me out of it. This is as far as my control over it has gone in all these years I cant seem to play with it at all I literally cant do anything but make a slight mumble which, after the birth of our daughter - my fiancé is a light sleeper now so she always wakes with my mumbles. Ive only ever seen spirits with this a handful of times and they have always been of dark origin with noting good to say to me, but saying that, in the early days when I saw these spirits during sleep paralysis it was when I was only seeing the bad stuff and not letting the light through during my connections. The doctors have told me that my mind has woken up and my brain remains asleep but I do think it goes a little deeper than that. A very interesting fact for you. If I eat any food containing large doses or unmeasured amounts of MSG like fast food, McDonalds etc etc late at night before I sleep I am guaranteed to get sleep paralysis every single time!

[Anno]

[...]I have even had when I fell asleep on a train and could not move but had my eyes open I could see the guy across from me looking at me really strangely ha ha.

That would freak me out. I can't sleep on public transport or anywhere I don't feel safe. The actual sleep paralysis didn't scare me because I understand the science of it. When things like that happen I tend to be really calm and glad that I'm having an unusual experience. It's the same when I encounter none physical entities or physical humans that I feel "aren't human". I'm just too damn fascinated to be afraid.



[...]A very interesting fact for you. If I eat any food containing large doses or unmeasured amounts of MSG like fast food, McDonalds etc etc late at night before I sleep I am guaranteed to get sleep paralysis every single time!

I wonder if that's an intentional "side effect" of it. I new a guy once who used to buy MSG from a chinese supermarket and add it to everything. He's the only person I've met in real life who claimed to have been abducted by aliens. Perhaps it's related? When you think about how much alcohol and bad food is promoted on people. Maybe there's thousands of people being interfered with every night but they just don't recall because they're drugged up?

[core2011]

[...]I have even had when I fell asleep on a train and could not move but had my eyes open I could see the guy across from me looking at me really strangely ha ha.

That would freak me out. I can't sleep on public transport or anywhere I don't feel safe. The actual sleep paralysis didn't scare me because I understand the science of it. When things like that happen I tend to be really calm and glad that I'm having an unusual experience. It's the same when I encounter none physical entities or physical humans that I feel "aren't human". I'm just too damn fascinated to be afraid.



[...]A very interesting fact for you. If I eat any food containing large doses or unmeasured amounts of MSG like fast food, McDonalds etc etc late at night before I sleep I am guaranteed to get sleep paralysis every single time!

I wonder if that's an intentional "side effect" of it. I new a guy once who used to buy MSG from a chinese supermarket and add it to everything. He's the only person I've met in real life who claimed to have been abducted by aliens. Perhaps it's related? When you think about how much alcohol and bad food is promoted on people. Maybe there's thousands of people being interfered with every night but they just don't recall because they're drugged up?

Yep I think this could be the deal. I have no idea at all why they use MSG so heavily in food especially Asain cooking, they its to tenderize the meat. The problem is that everything is riddled with the stuff even potato chips. Some counties have banned it even though they say it has no side effects..... why ban something with no side effects?

[Anno]

Yep I think this could be the deal. I have no idea at all why they use MSG so heavily in food especially Asain cooking, they its to tenderize the meat. The problem is that everything is riddled with the stuff even potato chips. Some counties have banned it even though they say it has no side effects..... why ban something with no side effects?

I've often wondered why some countries will ban something that we know TPTB use against us. It reminds me of the seldom heard idea that there is no 'one' PTB. Just different clans or bloodlines in competition. That's the only explanation that fits. But like the idea that Smoking prevents Chemtrail harm, you don't hear it very often. Charles is the only one I've seen say that out loud although when I posted about it, a few people on here had thought about it. Every now and then you'll see a reference to this idea about competing clans over one TPTB but not very often. Other things are Japan asking about 9/11 in their parliament and Germany at the moment considering getting rid of nuclear power. If there was only one PTB then how could those things happen?

As for MSG, the guy I knew that used it said it was just like a 'super salt' that brings the flavour out in everything. He reckoned you could even put it on bread and you'd taste greatness. Even though back then I didn't know about such things, I had an instinct to refuse to try any and I never did.

[MorgaineFallen]

I have this often! And I also experience being pulled/sucked backwards and boom I am in a dream. Awsome but a little scary sometimes.. :)

[The One]

Hey Anno how are you


Meaning I couldn't move. What people call sleep paralysis

The above happened to me last night it wasent the same as your experiance but i get the feeling something is going on.

[Thinking Allowed]

I had my first (of many) experiences of this as a young adult. I was in my early twenties and it frightened the living daylights out of me. I would wake up fully paralysed with a load ringing frequency in my head and a very powerful force/pressure/suction was felt in my head and back which, in my panic, could only be described as an external entity trying to rip my soul out of my body and steal the body for itself (possession). It did not feel natural in the slightest and I strongly felt that I was in a life or death struggle to prevent this from happening, fearing that once I was ripped out of my body then it was curtains for me! I've had the feelings of a presence in the room several times and the very last time (about 3 years ago) there was a blue/transparent light being/entity sat on my chest which was vaguely similar to the monster from the 50's sci-fi film 'Lost in Space'. On that last occasion I was 'as mad as hell' and was trying to grapple with this blue energy and successfully broke out of my paralysis when I was trying to punch it!!!
I have since reseached OBE's and found that the best way to prevent the scary natural ones I have (without consent) is to sleep on your stomach or side or to consume a large amount of alcohol. The alcohol thing works very well but is not a healthy antidote. I downloaded a video giving instructions on how to obtain an OBE state intentionally and in full awareness with reasonable results which is not scary at all. I did get stuck at the part where my spirit was trying to leave the body using the turning/twisting method once you feel you are ready to leave. It's a much better way in my opinion - and not scary !! http://www.saltcube.com (http://www.saltcube.com/) is the site with the video. It costs around £10 for the download but is full of good info and certainly worth a try for those who are interested and cannot do it naturally and want a simple method to use.

[DeDukshyn]

I had my first (of many) experiences of this as a young adult. I was in my early twenties and it frightened the living daylights out of me. I would wake up fully paralysed with a load ringing frequency in my head and a very powerful force/pressure/suction was felt in my head and back which, in my panic, could only be described as an external entity trying to rip my soul out of my body and steal the body for itself (possession). It did not feel natural in the slightest and I strongly felt that I was in a life or death struggle to prevent this from happening, fearing that once I was ripped out of my body then it was curtains for me! I've had the feelings of a presence in the room several times and the very last time (about 3 years ago) there was a blue/transparent light being/entity sat on my chest which was vaguely similar to the monster from the 50's sci-fi film 'Lost in Space'. On that last occasion I was 'as mad as hell' and was trying to grapple with this blue energy and successfully broke out of my paralysis when I was trying to punch it!!!
I have since reseached OBE's and found that the best way to prevent the scary natural ones I have (without consent) is to sleep on your stomach or side or to consume a large amount of alcohol. The alcohol thing works very well but is not a healthy antidote. I downloaded a video giving instructions on how to obtain an OBE state intentionally and in full awareness with reasonable results which is not scary at all. I did get stuck at the part where my spirit was trying to leave the body using the turning/twisting method once you feel you are ready to leave. It's a much better way in my opinion - and not scary !! http://www.saltcube.com (http://www.saltcube.com/) is the site with the video. It costs around £10 for the download but is full of good info and certainly worth a try for those who are interested and cannot do it naturally and want a simple method to use.

For me drinking alcohol tends to maker me more prone to being influenced by the invisibles - not always bad mind you. I have this cook entity that jumps in and takes over if I've been drinking and get into cooking - seriously funny, because I have created the most amazing meals in this state without knowing how to make whatever I was making (half the time I didn't even know what it was until it started to come together lol), but I suppose this could also be me in another timeline helping me out.

I also recall King Anthony starting a thread where he had actually recorded a tone somehow that was in his head when he awoke - it was pretty odd.

[core2011]

Yep I think this could be the deal. I have no idea at all why they use MSG so heavily in food especially Asain cooking, they its to tenderize the meat. The problem is that everything is riddled with the stuff even potato chips. Some counties have banned it even though they say it has no side effects..... why ban something with no side effects?

I've often wondered why some countries will ban something that we know TPTB use against us. It reminds me of the seldom heard idea that there is no 'one' PTB. Just different clans or bloodlines in competition. That's the only explanation that fits. But like the idea that Smoking prevents Chemtrail harm, you don't hear it very often. Charles is the only one I've seen say that out loud although when I posted about it, a few people on here had thought about it. Every now and then you'll see a reference to this idea about competing clans over one TPTB but not very often. Other things are Japan asking about 9/11 in their parliament and Germany at the moment considering getting rid of nuclear power. If there was only one PTB then how could those things happen?

As for MSG, the guy I knew that used it said it was just like a 'super salt' that brings the flavour out in everything. He reckoned you could even put it on bread and you'd taste greatness. Even though back then I didn't know about such things, I had an instinct to refuse to try any and I never did.

I would imagine that you have definitely tried MSG its in everything from breakfast cereal to fast food. Not to go off topic too much but as you mentioned it - my theory that the reason Charles said that about smoking is so that he could justify smoking in front of the Avalon film crew. Here he is saying I only drink tap water, eat organic and dont eat MSG cause I know what they are doing to people but I bet he was a smoker - that would raise the question "well why do you smoke" and his answer was "because counters chemtrails".... Thats my theory, a smoker couldn’t go without a ciggie for more than a few hours so i he spent a long time with Bill and the crew he would have needed to smoke, and this was the reason he gave.

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I had my first (of many) experiences of this as a young adult. I was in my early twenties and it frightened the living daylights out of me. I would wake up fully paralysed with a load ringing frequency in my head and a very powerful force/pressure/suction was felt in my head and back which, in my panic, could only be described as an external entity trying to rip my soul out of my body and steal the body for itself (possession). It did not feel natural in the slightest and I strongly felt that I was in a life or death struggle to prevent this from happening, fearing that once I was ripped out of my body then it was curtains for me! I've had the feelings of a presence in the room several times and the very last time (about 3 years ago) there was a blue/transparent light being/entity sat on my chest which was vaguely similar to the monster from the 50's sci-fi film 'Lost in Space'. On that last occasion I was 'as mad as hell' and was trying to grapple with this blue energy and successfully broke out of my paralysis when I was trying to punch it!!!
I have since reseached OBE's and found that the best way to prevent the scary natural ones I have (without consent) is to sleep on your stomach or side or to consume a large amount of alcohol. The alcohol thing works very well but is not a healthy antidote. I downloaded a video giving instructions on how to obtain an OBE state intentionally and in full awareness with reasonable results which is not scary at all. I did get stuck at the part where my spirit was trying to leave the body using the turning/twisting method once you feel you are ready to leave. It's a much better way in my opinion - and not scary !! http://www.saltcube.com (http://www.saltcube.com/) is the site with the video. It costs around £10 for the download but is full of good info and certainly worth a try for those who are interested and cannot do it naturally and want a simple method to use.

For me drinking alcohol tends to maker me more prone to being influenced by the invisibles - not always bad mind you. I have this cook entity that jumps in and takes over if I've been drinking and get into cooking - seriously funny, because I have created the most amazing meals in this state without knowing how to make whatever I was making (half the time I didn't even know what it was until it started to come together lol), but I suppose this could also be me in another timeline helping me out.

I also recall King Anthony starting a thread where he had actually recorded a tone somehow that was in his head when he awoke - it was pretty odd.

A similar thing.......... there is an App on the iPhone called Sleeptalk recorder which picks up everything, Ive downloaded it but I havent used it yet

[Atlas]

there was a blue/transparent light being/entity sat on my chest which was vaguely similar to the monster from the 50's sci-fi film 'Lost in Space'.


It felt like something was sitting on my chest and I couldn't move, scream or even open my eyes. (source (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15933))


it felt like something was sitting on my chest for about 2 minutes or so my heart was racing incredibly too.


I would feel a weight on my chest or couldn't breath very well which was terrifying


had some awful awakenings to something nasty and heavy sitting on my chest.


it was quicker than me and pinned me down so hard I couldn't breath, as though it was sitting on my chest


I can tell you about the same chest pressure and, yes, the same 'demon' that your friend saw.


a presence would be pushing on neck and head in a way that would feel like they were trying to break my neck.


the only time I felt a presence is when its "hands" were around my neck, that was about 1.5 years ago, in addition while these "hands" were around my neck I could here sinister laughing going on.


the 'Old Hag Syndrome' where many people see an old woman sitting on the edge of their bed on their feet or sometimes as an unbearable weight on their chest making it hard to breathe. She may be an old hag and you may think scrawny but honey, nuh-uh, this old gal weighs a ton, you can try to squirm, you can try to push and scream but she ain't goin' nowhere. (source (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=630))

See The Entity (2001 documentary film is produced by Jago Lee and directed by Mark Soldinger):
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[STR]

We do not remember due to our mass amnesia but our ancient brothers and sisters combated these tonal frequencies in the Golden and even into the Silver age. These sound frequencies are how the aliens entering into this system control us neuronally putting us into trance. This is not mind melding or telepathy it is technology. The entire human body can be operated on by sound. They do this all the time. The body systems from one Chakra to another all correspond to tonal frequencies and can be healed using resonance just as the temple in Egypt did for the peoples of the times. Now its not to say it was a cure all they certainly did eliminate a lot of problems but not all with it.

Like all sound frequencies if the aliens come. Lets say you get that familiar feeling and you know they are coming. You hear the hum, you see the lights. It is said sonic wind devices that spin can be created, just as ancients did in stone with fly wheels that made sonic sounds to change and manipulate stone! These will not stop working when the lights go out. If one could create a magnetic fly wheel to spin and keep spinning from the placement of the magnets so that it connected to a sonic apparatus such as a dental scaler disrupting these tonal frequencies that are used to control you can be done. You can through the use of various experimenting create fan type spinning devices and place them in your yard. Certain chimes in various keys all around the property all create tonal disrupting frequencies and they cannot control you when they come when those are working. Not like they can without them anyway. You can fight back. Many have and I know of one family in the hills that did just that and chased the little buggers off shooting at them the entire time and all cause of wind chimes blowing various tonal frequencies into the environment negating or weakening those used by the aliens. Make your properties alive with sound. Try it you'll like it. We do.