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ktlight
18th June 2011, 08:53
FYI:


JUNE 13, 2011

BY ROBERT KOOPMANS
DAILY NEWS STAFF REPORTER
Canada's so-called "freemen" are nothing more than "litigation terrorists" who clog up the system and steal precious resources, robbing people who need help from the courts, a judge said Monday.

Provincial court judge James Threlfall's strong words came as a Merritt man pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice. The man refused to give his name to police, sparking an incident that caused officers hours of work for what should have been no more than a speeding ticket.

Troy Polyak, 36, of Logan Lake, was stopped by the RCMP for speeding near Merritt almost two years ago. Polyak did not stop right away, however, and when he finally did, refused to provide his name or identification.

He was also rude, and responded in ways suggesting he subscribed to beliefs touted by the Freeman Association of Canada, a group that believes it is above the law.

Polyak was arrested and taken into custody. He was charged with obstructing justice and causing a police pursuit, and eventually released on bail.

Both the Crown and the defence proposed a fine of $1,000. Defence lawyer Jeremy Jensen told the court his client is no freeman, even though he may have espoused such philosophies the day of the incident.

"At the time, he had an anti-authoritarian attitude but he has moved past that," said Jensen. "He's paid for his mistake here already. He's been on bail since nearly the time of the offence."

Judge Threlfall said it's a good thing for Polyak, as he would not have gone along with a fine had the man maintained a claim to be above the law.

"If I thought for a moment he was part of the freeman movement, I would not deal with it in this fashion," said the judge.

"One of the problems we have is those who are taking an anti-authoritarian stance become litigation terrorists.

"They rob from people with legitimate problems, they take from the court's time. It impacts the entire system, and affects people who legitimate need decision-making from the courts."

Threlfall said freemen ideology also needlessly causes extra work for police officers, turning simple transactions into much lengthier more complex issues.

The judge concluded with a warning - proclaiming to be freemen will inevitably make matters worse for those who appear in court.

The Freemen Association of Canada says Canadians have been enslaved by government. They also purport to be governed by the "common law," not the Criminal Code or other Canadian legislation, which they describe as "admiralty law."

Freemen believe they do not have to pay taxes or engage in many other forms of government bureaucracy, including registering vehicles or obtaining driver licences.

Freemen often write their names using strange combinations of punctuation, something they believe differentiates their "natural, flesh-and-blood person" from the corporate shells or straw men created by the government.

Prosecutor Alex Janse said people must be made to understand they have an obligation to provide police with their name and identification if stopped pursuant to the Motor Vehicle Act.


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king anthony
18th June 2011, 11:00
FYI:


JUNE 13, 2011

Canada's so-called "freemen" are nothing more than "litigation terrorists" who clog up the system and steal precious resources, robbing people who need help from the courts, a judge said Monday.

"If I thought for a moment he was part of the freeman movement, I would not deal with it in this fashion," said the judge.

"One of the problems we have is those who are taking an anti-authoritarian stance become litigation terrorists.

"They rob from people with legitimate problems, they take from the court's time. It impacts the entire system, and affects people who legitimate need decision-making from the courts."

Freemen often write their names using strange combinations of punctuation, something they believe differentiates their "natural, flesh-and-blood person" from the corporate shells or straw men created by the government.

Prosecutor Alex Janse said people must be made to understand they have an obligation to provide police with their name and identification if stopped pursuant to the Motor Vehicle Act.

I say, some of the words spoken above are true as one should not change or take away what is not theirs, lest they become vandals or thieves. If one wishes to become truly sovereign then one should do so properly; for failure of freedom is not in achieving it; rather, in how it is obtained.

“The few” and those who serve them are not accustomed to anything other then what they serve; for "their" inability to know or understand individual sovereignty is not based (in part) of their lack of intelligence; rather, simply with "their" not knowing – as well, “the few” will do whatever they feel is necessary to maintain that which "they" have and those who serve "them" will not let go of what gives "them" comfort - no different then many with such things as faiths, theories and thought in forums.

Thus “the few” and "their" minions will even lie and discredit by saying such words as “people must” and calling those who wish change ”terrorists” – I say, the only true terrorists are those who create terror, in the streets, media and where human beings live daily. The true terrorists are those who have pointed the finger at the innocent; rather than allow one, some or many to live knowing freedom.

The rule of standard is applied (what one does to one side is applied to the other), for the some who wish true freedom have done so improperly, thus have suffered for it. The ego of the some prevails as the “textbook” warrior (those who think they know) cause grief not only for those who do not wish freedom – but most of all, for those who do. For even the poor advice and acts of those with ego perpetuate how things are – for when others witness their "failure", others mistaken such for impossibility and fear to make a stand.

The fact one is born into a place is not default to accept tyranny imposed by “the few” or "those" who serve "them"; something that needs to be made known. For if one cannot obtain freedom of flesh and blood - then I say, how can one know any other freedom such as of the mind, “soul” or as a species, lest it be an illusion like everything else they have known.

I invite anyone to read all my posts on this topic and even listen to my words . True freedom is not based on falsehood, such as arguing Common Law (in “their” arena), discussion on a messiah, who one believes they were in a previous life or what dimensions a demon comes from – for these things are the creation of “the few” to distract, deceive and give false comfort – while “they”... “do as they wilt”.

Again I know my words will not win favour – I say, I matters not to me, for no one can ever say they have not been told.