Proof that holographics were used on 9/11 attack

[the_flyingboy]

I found this video while looking up for 9/11 events,guys what do yous think about this?

http://youtu.be/ek-Q0T9wK2g

[Teakai]

I think holographic technology was definitely used on 911 - have you seen the one where the nise comes out the other side?
Will see if I can find it.

Coincidentally (is there any such thing) I was just posting this video on a completely different thread at much the same time as you put yours up.

[Calz]

I think "they" used most everything at "their" disposal for 9/11.

Anyone believing it originated from caves in afghanistan is either way overdue for a wakeup call or else hopeless ...

IMHO

[Teakai]

Found this while looking for the 'nose' tape.

Could be there were no planes at all and the 'planes' were only added at a later date for televising.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cvWwIxMbmE&playnext=1&list=PLB96D0F8560862640
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cvWwIxMbmE&playnext=1&list=PLB96D0F8560862640

[Teakai]

I think "they" used most everything at "their" disposal for 9/11.

Anyone believing it originated from caves in afghanistan is either way overdue for a wakeup call or else hopeless ...

IMHO

Or in complete denial. I'm conversing with someone like that at the moment. They said they just couldn't believe Bush could be capable of such evil, on further investigation as to why Bush couldn't be, but Muslim extremists could be it was on the grounds that Bush is a Christian. (as is the person I'm conversing with)

[Calz]

Found this while looking for the 'nose' tape.

Could be there were no planes at all and the 'planes' were only added at a later date for televising.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cvWwIxMbmE&playnext=1&list=PLB96D0F8560862640
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cvWwIxMbmE&playnext=1&list=PLB96D0F8560862640

That is in line with Judy Wood's work ... and that is the the most convincing to me fwiw. Her photographic evidence should be mandatory for anyone taking up this debate at this late stage.

[Coaxial]

I will be watching this and the City appears in China thread very closely!

[Calz]

I think "they" used most everything at "their" disposal for 9/11.

Anyone believing it originated from caves in afghanistan is either way overdue for a wakeup call or else hopeless ...

IMHO

Or in complete denial. I'm conversing with someone like that at the moment. They said they just couldn't believe Bush could be capable of such evil, on further investigation as to why Bush couldn't be, but Muslim extremists could be it was on the grounds that Bush is a Christian. (as is the person I'm conversing with)

Bush (or his clone) was clueless ... remember there are 27 or so levels of security above the prez.

Just back from overseas. Just about *everyone* (even those in overseas government) seem quite convinced osama was just killed. Only one person I trusted enough to tell otherwise.

The movie Matrix has more relevance than most anyone can imagine (metaphorically).

How many walk around still entranced by the "matrix"???

80%???

90%???

Hard to witness.

[Teakai]

I think "they" used most everything at "their" disposal for 9/11.

Anyone believing it originated from caves in afghanistan is either way overdue for a wakeup call or else hopeless ...

IMHO

Or in complete denial. I'm conversing with someone like that at the moment. They said they just couldn't believe Bush could be capable of such evil, on further investigation as to why Bush couldn't be, but Muslim extremists could be it was on the grounds that Bush is a Christian. (as is the person I'm conversing with)

Bush (or his clone) was clueless ... remember there are 27 or so levels of security above the prez.

Just back from overseas. Just about *everyone* (even those in overseas government) seem quite convinced osama was just killed. Only one person I trusted enough to tell otherwise.

The movie Matrix has more relevance than most anyone can imagine (metaphorically).

How many walk around still entranced by the "matrix"???

80%???

90%???

Hard to witness.

I agree. And in my conversation with this person I wasn't laying the job at Bush's feet. However, this person is still hanging onto his faith in the US government - despite...the fact that the current President is illegal - which is a biggy.
It's like the obvious facts that are undeniable are simply brushed under the mat because they don't fit the thought paradigm in situ. It's crazy and yet fascinating to witness.

From where l'm standing it seems like about 98% are still entranced in the Matrix - but that may just be the company I keep.
I hear lots of people are waking up - only when I look around, I'm not seeing much/any evidence of it in the people I know.

Anyway - I sent him the plane video I just put up here. We'll see how that goes down.

[Calz]

From where l'm standing it seems like about 98% are still entranced in the Matrix - but that may just be the company I keep.
I hear lots of people are waking up - only when I look around, I'm not seeing much/any evidence of it in the people I know.



What Pete Peterson said really resonated and stuck with me ... that 15% or so of the population had the offworld dna to resist the mind control.

I think 98% is high ... I believe 85% is closer and it really makes me wonder about Pete's assessment.

I agree that those not yet "awakened" perhaps might not be able to do so???

Hoping for the "100th monkey effect" to take hold ... but not holding my breath.

[Teakai]

What Pete Peterson said really resonated and stuck with me ... that 15% or so of the population had the offworld dna to resist the mind control.

I think 98% is high ... I believe 85% is closer and it really makes me wonder about Pete's assessment.

I agree that those not yet "awakened" perhaps might not be able to do so???

Hoping for the "100th monkey effect" to take hold ... but not holding my breath.

See, now, that's what I don't get. How can one be 'unable' to? You look at the evidence and you use your brain and then you say - oh, I see.
And we've all got a brain.
We must just be choosing not to wake up and smell the lavatory.

What was Pete Peterson's assesment? Is it something I can read or listen to?

[Calz]

What Pete Peterson said really resonated and stuck with me ... that 15% or so of the population had the offworld dna to resist the mind control.

I think 98% is high ... I believe 85% is closer and it really makes me wonder about Pete's assessment.

I agree that those not yet "awakened" perhaps might not be able to do so???

Hoping for the "100th monkey effect" to take hold ... but not holding my breath.

See, now, that's what I don't get. How can one be 'unable' to? You look at the evidence and you use your brain and then you say - oh, I see.
And we've all got a brain.
We must just be choosing not to wake up and smell the lavatory.

What was Pete Peterson's assesment? Is it something I can read or listen to?

By no means an "expert" regarding mind control.

Perhaps Omni can add his voice.

I am not personally aware of any influence or "voices" (for better or worse) but cannot speak for others.

How so many people can remain so entranced is beyond any explanation for me except for mind control.

IMHO ... and always open to other opinions :)

[Teakai]

By no means an "expert" regarding mind control.

Perhaps Omni can add his voice.

I am not personally aware of any influence or "voices" (for better or worse) but cannot speak for others.

How so many people can remain so entranced is beyond any explanation for me except for mind control.

IMHO ... and always open to other opinions :)

What? You've lost me.

Oh, wait a minute - are you saying that people may be unable to wake up because they have been so deeply mind controlled?


If you are...far freaking out!!
That's like we're living with 85% zombies.

[Calz]

By no means an "expert" regarding mind control.

Perhaps Omni can add his voice.

I am not personally aware of any influence or "voices" (for better or worse) but cannot speak for others.

How so many people can remain so entranced is beyond any explanation for me except for mind control.

IMHO ... and always open to other opinions :)

What? You've lost me.

Oh, wait a minute - are you saying that people may be unable to wake up because they have been so deeply mind controlled?


If you are...far freaking out!!
That's like we're living with 85% zombies.

I am saying that I personally have never experienced any "voices in my head" that might be attributable to mind control.

That said I am have a 5 planet stellum in Libra so I can argue with myself endlessly ... but that is another story :)

What I am trying to say is TO ME PERSONALLY it makes no sense how so many (regardless of what percentage we attach to it) can be so oblivious to what is going on.

That's all :)

[Teakai]

I am saying that I personally have never experienced any "voices in my head" that might be attributable to mind control.

That said I am have a 5 planet stellum in Libra so I can argue with myself endlessly ... but that is another story :)

What I am trying to say is TO ME PERSONALLY it makes no sense how so many (regardless of what percentage we attach to it) can be so oblivious to what is going on.

That's all :)

Oh, well, same here.

I got a bit confused with the voices in the head part. I thought initially you just meant mind controlled by societal values and TV and education, peer pressure etc, rather than technology sending voices into people's heads.

[Circe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs1IcXqjL5Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHcUl3iJQUY

[Rozzy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdFo9egH130&feature=related

[toothpick]

Great 911 video,s.
Have not seen those ones before, I haven,t looked at 911 in a while.
Can you just imagine tptb sitting around laughing at us and talking about how they got away with it all, incredible.
My own personal estimate, is, that about one person per family is awake about 911.
That not very many, but more people are coming around every day, I hope anyway.

toothpick

[Fred259]

[QUOTE=Teakai;246519]

From where l'm standing it seems like about 98% are still entranced in the Matrix - but that may just be the company I keep.
I hear lots of people are waking up - only when I look around, I'm not seeing much/any evidence of it in the people I know.




What Pete Peterson said really resonated and stuck with me ... that 15% or so of the population had the offworld dna to resist the mind control.I think 98% is high ... I believe 85% is closer and it really makes me wonder about Pete's assessment.

I agree that those not yet "awakened" perhaps might not be able to do so???

Wow…Calz !! did Pete Peterson say that ?

I trust your judgment and the 15% of the global population remark.

These are the people with rhesus negative blood cultures who can’t as you say be mind controlled.

The ptb are rhesus negative, but O rhesus negatives the purest of blood groups.

This is why they are tracking the Rhesus negatives, as they can’t be subjected to mind control as you say, and further they want to eliminate the A and AB Rhesus negatives.

It’s considered they have the capability to eliminate all the Rhesus positives, so that’s 85% of the global population. If they can find the A and AB Rhesus negatives and eliminate them, this would only leave the O Rhesus negatives, which is of course is the exclusive blood group of the ptb.

Sick Bastards.

However…..fear not….

Once they have found a way of ring fencing the A & AB rhesus negatives this will then only leave “them” the O Rhesus negatives (the ptb).

At this point a counter attack is launched eliminating the O Rhesus negs thus removing once and for all the ptb.



Hoping for the "100th monkey effect" to take hold ... but not holding my breath.

This is an unusual comment Calz, would you be willing to expand?

PS. Calz, this is superb dot joining my friend. Well done.

Remember at the very end of the Pete Peterson interview Kerry thanked Dr Peterson and she turned to Bill and asked for his comments (on video) and Bill said. “It’s the best interview we’ve done”

Bill has also said publically on the forum in writing and video that the Pete Peterson interview may have been one that “they” the ptb didn’t like.

However again at the end of the video Kerry thanked Dr Peterson quote.. “ Thank you for your services to humanity”

Folks don’t worry about this. These criminals are going down. In much the same way as in the US for example they have a “No fly list” held by Dept of Homeland Security be advised we also have a “No Fly List” of them….. We have seen the UK A list and the Australian B List. It’s all very interesting. Of course the list is changing all the time.

They think they are one step ahead. No not at all, only half a step at best. They forget for example that “we” that is “those of us in civilised society” are stupid. They forget for example that we also have people working in airports, sea ports, and who also have access to the Saber passenger reservation system and the pink luxury leather passports.

It’s not a matter of if but when.



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[Dennis Leahy]

Although I find this video evidence interesting, there exists a huge chance that this is inserted disinfo. There must have been hundreds of eyes that witnessed the planes, live and in person.

Regardless if this is true or not, it is so far-fetched, that a much smaller number of new people would be awakened to what really happened on 9/11. I still think the most important point to repeat and repeat and repeat is that the towers and building 7 all came down at near-freefall speed, and that is completely impossible without a massive amount of planted explosives. The buildings did not pancake, or collapse, or crumble - the infrastructure exploded to remove all support. Simple high-school physics proves that the buildings were demolished with explosives. There are hundreds of details that are true and hundreds of pieces of disinformation that are traps. In my opinion, it is best to stay with the simple, forensic evidence: the physics of free-fall 'collapse'.

Dennis

[ponda]

Calz said:

I am saying that I personally have never experienced any "voices in my head" that might be attributable to mind control.

That said I am have a 5 planet stellum in Libra so I can argue with myself endlessly ... but that is another story

What I am trying to say is TO ME PERSONALLY it makes no sense how so many (regardless of what percentage we attach to it) can be so oblivious to what is going on.


Well you don't usually get the voices saying 'do this or do that(that's telepathy)'.The thing is that you can't differentiate between your own original thought/urge and the external one.It all feels exactly the same....as if your own mind is the originator of the thought.

This is why it works so well.No one knows it's going on...and you can't prove it.

As some have said many years of deep meditation can perhaps lessen the influence of outside influences but imho the human mind is still suspect to 'other' subtle mental forces.

This is separate from conditioning and indirect mind controls such as laws,propaganda,education,advertising,religion,entertainments.

In my experience you have to be shown direct mind control many times before you start to 'realize' it.In one way it's like synchronicities, what makes one suddenly notice the right thing at the right time in the right place ? Is it just chance or 'guidance' or a type of slight mind control.

You start to notice these synchronicities happening more often and you become more open to them and aware of them.

The same goes for mind control.The more that you are aware of being affected by it the more that you notice it....and on it goes.It all links back to our consciousness imho.

But it's not just humans.Animals can be a part of this as well.Everything that has consciousness is vulnerable to this influence which imo comes from higher beings.

Now back to the voices in the head.Imho you can get voices in the head or mind talk and also a written type of communication as well.This is a type of telepathy imo.You can also just know what was communicated without any oral or written communication.You feel it coming in and you know what it communicates but not whether it is true or false.There is no no language barrier.


P.S.

They only got away with the whole 911 scam by mind control...both direct(main players) and indirect (almost everyone else).

cheers

[Fred259]

Ha Mr Leahy…. Fancy you popping up here…of all people.

Dennis, remember you were discussing the QRS11 Gyro chip, you know the chip that was developed by the seven Raytheon system engineers who they eventually gassed to death on 9/11 so that they wouldn’t whistle blow….?? Remember….

So folks just to give you the background detail here, this was a chipset that when fixed to a gyroscope enabled aircraft to be flown remotely. It’s a bit like these remote controlled drones attacking Pakistan and being operated by some air force dude in Nevada.

The QRS 11 Gyro chip has a world wide “patent” that was signed off by a legally registered patent lawyer.

These patent lawyers must be thin on the ground in the US Dennis, because it just so happens that the QRS11 Gyro chip patent that was critical to the 9/11 slaughter was signed off by the Rose Lodge Law Firm by a lawyer under the name Ms Hillary Rodham Clinton no less. Now fancy that.


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New World Order Row
It's not a matter of if but when..

[Dennis Leahy]

Ha Mr Leahy…. Fancy you popping up here…of all people.

Dennis, remember you were discussing the QRS11 Gyro chip, you know the chip that was developed by the seven Raytheon system engineers who they eventually gassed to death on 9/11 so that they wouldn’t whistle blow….?? Remember….

So folks just to give you the background detail here, this was a chipset that when fixed to a gyroscope enabled aircraft to be flown remotely. It’s a bit like these remote controlled drones attacking Pakistan and being operated by some air force dude in Nevada.

The QRS 11 Gyro chip has a world wide “patent” that was signed off by a legally registered patent lawyer.

These patent lawyers must be thin on the ground in the US Dennis, because it just so happens that the QRS11 Gyro chip patent that was critical to the 9/11 slaughter was signed off by the Rose Lodge Law Firm by a lawyer under the name Ms Hillary Rodham Clinton no less. Now fancy that.
Verrrrrrrry interesting (the Clinton NWO connection.)

I probably said the same thing somewhere else, that I do believe it was real planes, either drones or aircraft full of dead people (nerve gassed in midair) that were expertly guided into their destinations from a remote signal or uploaded program.

(Oh, I think I was quoting Jeff Prager, a great 9/11 researcher, about the gyro chips - and I think it was about the drone (missile or small jet) that bumped into the Pentagon.)

BTW, what is that photo?

Dennis
p.s. I'll move this topic out of General Discussion and put it in with our 9/11 section.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Fred 259 ...Nice to see you in your element bashing those NWO cronies ......Were the planes that crashed into the world Trade centre ? .........Remote controlled ? or were they some other craft / Drone ?...... also Remote controlled ?

I know you 've probably answered this before , but I can't remember seeing it............Cheers Steve..

ps..pumpkins out of season in somerset......unless you were refering to me....LOL.

[Snowbird]

I think "they" used most everything at "their" disposal for 9/11.

Anyone believing it originated from caves in afghanistan is either way overdue for a wakeup call or else hopeless ...

IMHO

There are those, and I know several if not many of them. These people are highly intelligent and very loving and professionally successful. They still believe that young men with boxcutters carried out the dastardly deed. And, they simply close their ears to any other suggestion.

[Snowbird]

What? You've lost me.

Oh, wait a minute - are you saying that people may be unable to wake up because they have been so deeply mind controlled?


If you are...far freaking out!!
That's like we're living with 85% zombies.

Yes. I personally believe this is the reason that the super-kids have incarnated at this time. It is, IMO, that they are here to offer an enormous boost of consciousness to attract the 85% and help some of them over the finish line. There will, however, IMO, be a large remnant that is simply not ready for this giant hurdle.

For the longest time I could not figure out why the beneficial ETs, who literally surround our Earth, were not doing more to help to control and/or stop these heinous perpetrated acts against humanity. I've heard several channelings from off-world sources that have actually explained that it is these heinous perpetrated acts against humanity that wake up certain groups. I myself, did not wake up until after 9/11. It was this heinous-ish that brought me into consciousness. I honestly do not understand the 'why' of this. But when we stop and think about how we have all/each tried to bring this information, in a loving non-invasive way, to those who are still walking with eyes glazed over, we are either laughed at, ridiculed or physically harmed. And the really awful part is, we do not know which people will be and will not be ready for this hurdle. We have no method to use to gauge. :tsk:

[Cidersomerset]

I know I had the very same conversation with a workmate this morning , he would not listen , I kept to the basics , could not be flown by amatuers, Deffence Stand down, Excuse to go to war etc..he was saying all rubbish .........The conversation carried on and later , I mentioned I was going to see Rich Hall next Thurs in Weston..I thought best not to mention holograms and the ball.....anyway he asked if he charged and I said £7.50p a ticket and the banter went on others chipping in.
At this point he changed direction and said all ufo stuff was crap and they were only init for the money , I pointed out it would barely cover his expences unless it was a full House....Anyway he said he believed in God Bla bla bla.....To which I responded fine everyone to there own , and that God did not come into it...and did he realise That Gods so called little helpers down here did not do there ministry work for nothing and some of them were criminals and wealthy and live in luxury ,Bishops, Cardinals and the Pope preaching from his little shack in Rome, financed by the Vatican Bank off the sweat and tears of the brainwashed masses.....That abruptly ended the discusion..

[Snowbird]

I probably said the same thing somewhere else, that I do believe it was real planes, either drones or aircraft full of dead people (nerve gassed in midair) that were expertly guided into their destinations from a remote signal or uploaded program.

Oh dear! I believe that some of the passengers died in Pennsylvania (I can never keep the flight numbers straight) and that the majority were possibly gassed and removed to off site bases. But there has been some very strong indication that a few, did not die.

[amedeejp]

I remember 9/11 and being in the office watching, with co workers, as first and then second building collapsed. I was the only one that thought that what we were watching was impossible, especially in such a short amount of time. Only common sense, no videos were needed to convince me. I am new to this mind control, I think most folks are very naive. Thanks for the discussion.

[Fred259]

I know I had the very same conversation with a workmate this morning , he would not listen , I kept to the basics , could not be flown by amatuers, Deffence Stand down, Excuse to go to war etc..he was saying all rubbish .........The conversation carried on and later , I mentioned I was going to see Rich Hall next Thurs in Weston..I thought best not to mention holograms and the ball.....anyway he asked if he charged and I said £7.50p a ticket and the banter went on others chipping in.
At this point he changed direction and said all ufo stuff was crap and they were only init for the money , I pointed out it would barely cover his expences unless it was a full House....Anyway he said he believed in God Bla bla bla.....To which I responded fine everyone to there own , and that God did not come into it...and did he realise That Gods so called little helpers down here did not do there ministry work for nothing and some of them were criminals and wealthy and live in luxury ,Bishops, Cardinals and the Pope preaching from his little shack in Rome, financed by the Vatican Bank off the sweat and tears of the brainwashed masses.....That abruptly ended the discusion..

This is how you know the aircraft are fake. Watch the video of the south tower aircraft perhaps four or five times. Notice how smooth it is. The aircraft always has “constant relative velocity” which is a constant speed on a constant heading or direction.

Then think like this.

Suppose we go to Silverstone racetrack with Michael Schumacher and his Ferrari. On race day Schumacher will take the temp and the density of the air and he will say; I will take that corner at 147mph right on the limit flat out. If he does 149mph he spins, 145mph and he is 2 seconds off pole position so it’s got to be 147mph.

On race day half a mile from the corner he sets the car up and rolls his hands “ten to four” and locks his elbow. The car takes the corner at 147mph flat out which is why he is the genius he is, but above all the car also has “constant relative velocity”.

Schumacher completes the lap and pulls up at the pits. He jumps out and gives the helmet to you Steve. Do you think you could take the corner at 147mph precisely and a constant relative velocity…..answer NO of course not, but you would have a damn good try.

So away you go and you set the car up just like Schumacher, but when you hit the corner unlike Schumacher and his “ten to four” with elbows locked your hands are constantly feeding up and down trying to see how far you can push it. Do you understand me your hands will be ten to four then quarter to three then even maybe five to five as you struggle to take this corner. You never manage to achieve “constant relative velocity”.

This is the bit you just need to believe…What I have just described with the constant movement of your hands up and down etc is precisely the way you handle a large jet.
It’s 150tons going at 220knots (250mph) in a turn. Think of that for a moment… the forces are immense and to keep it even remotely on heading requires constant changeable inputs just like you Steve in the Ferrari with your hands… Understand? It’s almost impossible to hand fly at constant relative velocity. YET in the video of the aircraft hitting the south tower with Mohammed Atta he was achieving constant relative velocity…go and watch the video you can see it for yourself…. It’s impossible for any human to do that. A computer YES, because its reactions are 70 times faster but not a human. That’s why we shout Red flag red flag this is BS and fake.

Then they say the aircraft was doing 500mph which is absolutely impossible, the air density at sea level is so thick that it’s impossible to achieve. Furthermore the Velocity Maximum operating speed (VMO) for the B767 at sea level is 340kts. Boeing decide this during testing and evaluation and set that speed for all B767 worldwide.

What they are essentially saying is that above 340kts the aircraft will start to disintegrate due to flutter and other factors. Therefore BS + more BS = Total utter BS. Ted Turner from CNN cut the film and deceived the world. Ted Turner is of course part of the problem.

[Fred259]

Hi Fred 259 ...Nice to see you in your element bashing those NWO cronies ......Were the planes that crashed into the world Trade centre ? .........Remote controlled ? or were they some other craft / Drone ?...... also Remote controlled ?

I know you 've probably answered this before , but I can't remember seeing it............Cheers Steve..

ps..pumpkins out of season in somerset......unless you were refering to me....LOL.

The real aircraft were remote controlled drones.

The pictures the public were given of the south tower aircraft were provided principally by CNN. They are computer generated. Ted Turner is part of the problem and has been since his marriage to Jane Fonda. Jane Fonda is part of the problem.

The problem is the men are so called “man in the middle” that’s to say they are subverted and controlled by extremely powerful radical feminists women like Jane Fonda, Janet Reno, Kristine Marsey, Hillary Clinton, as well as Cherrie Blair, Julia Middleton, (Common Purpose) Cressida Dick (Deputy Div Commander Met Police) Sam Cameron (Astor Family Illuminati 13 bloodline) Shami Chakrabarti (Liberty & Ditchley Foundation a little known Bilderberg type organisation) and Miriam Clegg, wife of Nick Clegg deputy Prime Minister who is without question the most dangerous women in Britain.

Mrs Clegg isn’t even British isn’t allowed to vote yet through DLA Piper a 100% corrupt “NWO law firm” subverts justice daily and swindles billions in climate change fraud. While working for the foreign office under Robin Cook this poisonous women stole trillions in the Iraq for food oil exchange.


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Miriam Clegg, wife of Nick Clegg Deputy Prime Minister.

R&R bankrolled and funded the feminist movement initially in French Canada in the 1970s with people like Jane Fonda, Kristine Marsey and many others, who had these wild and radical ideals to bring down the mighty United States.

In the mid 1970s they set up Femme Comp Inc (femme French for women) a technology defence corporation. Over the next twenty years through subversion blackmail and sextortion they positioned the company so that it controlled all the command and control systems of the US military, which it still does today. Thus they were able to bypass loyal military personnel and control the USAF on 9/11.

General Henry Shelton was the only man who could have stopped the attacks; they sent him overnight to Europe. By the time his plane landed the deed was done.

The attack came out of Canada where General Maurice Baril a NWO front man had control of the USAF in operation Global Guardian. Baril stood down the US air force on 9/11.



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Canadian Gen Maurice Baril.

Commanding Officer USAF on 9/11 for joint Canadian / US war game "Global Guardian"



Which allowed this man;



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Col Russell Williams Base Commander at RCAF Trenton



Flying this aircraft






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Bombardier CL144 Command & Control Platform.



Which was used on 9/11 to command and control the destruction of the towers and the Pentagon.

It should be noted that the 9/11 attacks although they originated from Canada were not conducted by loyal Canadians rather rogue Canadian officers following instructions from London. The air base at RCAF Trenton is owned by HM the Queen.

Why so, because for over seven years the FBI had been investigating monstrous monstrous evil crimes by the bankers dating back over thirty years. All the documents and evidence were contained in buildings 6, 2 and 1 along with the IRS in building 7. The key date is 9th October 2001 when the bankers were due before a judge and a courtroom in New York City.

The bankers knew they would go to jail, so they took out the buildings instead and thus destroyed all the evidence. In the words of one FBI officer “We lost the lot”…. That is the evidence and the seven year investigation documentation.

9/11 was really about stolen and swindled gold. Bush Snr stole over 100,000 tons of gold from the Philippines which was transported by the US Navy and Oceaneering a CIA front company to Oregon and then to Kloten airport in Switzerland where its hidden under the runway. The stolen US gold is also in Switzerland hidden in vaults under the runway of Zurich airport.

Captain Gerald De Canto from the US Navy was tasked to investigate this stolen gold. He worked in the Dept of Naval intelligence at the Pentagon and was investigating Cantor Fitzgerald who worked from the 86th floor of tower two WTC. Cantors facilitated the stolen gold transactions, thus both “had to go” all those in the know in building two and all those in Captain De Canto’s team in the Pentagon. It wasn’t really the Pentagon that was hit rather it was the Dept of Naval Intelligence at the Pentagon killing everyone who had any knowledge of the stolen gold.

The bankers also created 140,000 tons of fractionally created “thin air gold” just as they do with the funny money. It’s fake gold; in reality it’s tungsten which has the absolute identical specific gravity of real gold. With all the fake gold in the system a number of years ago Rothschild announced that they would be “coming out of gold” that’s unlike them….now you know why, they have already stolen all the real gold.

Where did the towers go? We don’t know, a specialist explosive expert is required however those dogs don’t bark.

Many know think that the steel beams may have been coated with SmacSonic a coating compound that eventually burns at 5000F turning everything to a plasma thus removing all evidence.


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SmacSonic Click to read.


I think that’s quite enough for now

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks fred 259 That analogy with the Ferrari (whish I had one , i'm part Italian ) makes perfect sence and ties in wih what John Lear says ( would the 'clackers be going off in a real plane by the way ? and what effect would that have ?).....The plane crashing into the south tower does not look right , it slips into the building as you say far to smoothly and the explosions timed to detonate with the impact look like explosive detination as opposed to an impact detination, in slow motion...

As you said there is no way I would be able to smoothly manouvre the vehicle around the corner with the adrenalin going etc ,how ever fanatical I I was, and if by some 'pure fluke' which I know could not have happened on the day, I did hit ...How the 'Hell' did it happen twice !....Obviously it did not.......The drones make perfect sence , in conjuction with explosives /or a more exotic weapon from those Space weapons platforms / satalites ? possibly that space plasma weapon they were demonstrating back in 1997 in the 'angels dont play this Haarp' video , or am off on a flight of fantasy again..LOL....... cheers steve...

[Cidersomerset]

The political scenario , all smoke and mirrors , and i have read this theory by you before , again it is very convincing and 'scary' are the woman in your opinnion knowingly helping the NWO/Bangsters or are they setup/blackmailed or thinking they are still on a misguided crusade or is it just plain greed/evil or is it a complex mixture of the lot ?........The FBI money investigation part and the destruction of the 'Fruad' evidence makes perfect sence.....Rumfeldts casual statement the day before 9/11 that the audit
office could not account for trillions of dollers got completely forgotten and buried in the rubble by the media ....(planned) The gold...The pentagon ....'CIADA'....Running & manipulating the drug cartells owning the mainstream media ,selling weapons to all who will pay thru third parties, even if officially we are not on diplomatic terms or at war, Banks printing money and staging 'Boom and bust' ( Famous Brown /Blair saying) crashing markets , Pharma ,Food (monsanto) all owned by their corporate cronies ....You have to hand it to them they have covered all the bases for years....

The military stand /down war games the total confusion of the day explains how the majority of servicemen were duped as most of the public were shocked into believing what was fed to them ......But all this in conjunctoin with 20 so called hijackers just happening by the will of 'Allah' to choose the best possible day in history to do a bit of airial sight seeing....come on people for the memmory of the thousands who died on the day and the millions who have or will die to keep these 'B------s 'power crazy/greedy/evil 'habbit going makes me sick......Little rant Cheers Steve

ps just noticed the plasma coating thats interesting , with the lift refurbishing going on the previous year enabling internal access to all floors....The towers being sold and insured against terrorist attack..Marvin/Jeb Bush ? on the board of the security firm responsible till just before 9/11 the list goes on and on and further on......

[the_flyingboy]

What Pete Peterson said really resonated and stuck with me ... that 15% or so of the population had the offworld dna to resist the mind control.

I think 98% is high ... I believe 85% is closer and it really makes me wonder about Pete's assessment.

I agree that those not yet "awakened" perhaps might not be able to do so???

Hoping for the "100th monkey effect" to take hold ... but not holding my breath.

See, now, that's what I don't get. How can one be 'unable' to? You look at the evidence and you use your brain and then you say - oh, I see.
And we've all got a brain.
We must just be choosing not to wake up and smell the lavatory.

What was Pete Peterson's assesment? Is it something I can read or listen to?


I've talk to a few people about 9/11 even my wife and parents plus some relatives and asked them if they believe a man that previously worked for CIA is now in a cave with a laptop and made this happen? and they answer yes cause they saw it on tv and when i show them the evidence they reply that its all made up from people like me to make the goverments look bad......thats how badly they are still asleep .

[Fred259]

The political scenario , all smoke and mirrors , and i have read this theory by you before , again it is very convincing and 'scary' are the woman in your opinnion knowingly helping the NWO/Bangsters or are they setup/blackmailed or thinking they are still on a misguided crusade or is it just plain greed/evil or is it a complex mixture of the lot ?

Both. Many are ideologically subverted and just think that way. Others like Col Russell Williams who was born in the West Midlands were trapped and extorted at the Pickton Pig Farm in BC. They were invited to wild orgies at the pig farm, and told wives and girlfriends they were away for a golfing weekend.

Kristine Marsey & Co who are behind the pig farm, shipped in hookers from the lower downtown east side of Vancouver to the farm for what the guys thought was a bit of R&R. High on drink and drugs with the babes naked on stage they were being recorded and photographed. Then some screw head jumped from behind the stage with a chainsaw and cut the girl in two. Now they were owned sexually trapped, now sunny boy you just fly that plane won’t you.

The problem is Steve these people don’t think like you and me. I’m serious they are ideologically subverted. This is why people like Harriett Harman former UK deputy prime minister make comments like;

“Childhood sexual experiences have little effect on the welfare of the child”

We are trying to get rid of women who enjoys a senior position in the Scottish Government. She is bringing in legislation banning home schooling. She says.

“Home Schooling is child abuse”

Here is a comment made by Michael Buerk at the BBC responding to a question on climate change.

“ I don’t want to be shoved into the corner with rapists, terrorists and climate change deniers”

The problem goes back 30-40 years and over the years society has been ideologically subverted to the mess in today.

Do you remember the campaigner Mary Whitehouse, in the 1960/70s. She spoke out about the constant use of the F word on TV and sex everywhere especially in the media. At the time everyone laughed at her, but she was right.

Here are the larger lovelies. This was from the 1970s compare these models with what we have today. Go into any petrol station and see the “lads mags” like the one below. This is subversion, the destruction of moral standards. The Soviets introduced this into every aspect of our society to destroy the West. The same methods are used today by the ptb and people like Cameron with his big society clap trap. It’s Marxism or cultural Marxism.




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The "Larger Lovelies" when I was a lad.

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Todays "Larger Lovlies" when my son is a lad.


This is a perfect example how over the years women have been used and abused to destroy the nation.


Here is where to read up about how to destroy a nation. Frankfurt School of Subversion

http://www.lincolnshireblog.com/blog1.php/2010/05/31/frankfurt-school-of-subversion

To further the advance of their ‘quiet’ cultural revolution by giving us no ideas about their plans for the future – the Frankfurt School recommended (among other things):


1. The creation of racism offences.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.
6. The promotion of excessive drinking
7. Emptying of churches
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family"

When Cameron & Obama talks of change this is what he really means.

Do you recognise the results today from the above list? Do you get scoffed at when you express your concern about them? Well, now you know who the scoffers are: Communists, and those who have been gulled by them.

Go through the list Steve does this ring a bell with you. Is this happening or is it all pie in the sky? This is how you destroy a nation. This is the UK, US, Australia and New Zealand. The English speaking world, ready for the New World Order.

The Frankfurt School of Subversive Marxist ideology was so successful guess what? They decided to open a sister school in the UK. Known as the Centre for Contemporary Studies, it was better known as the “Birmingham School” Fortunately it was closed down in 2001 I think.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_for_Contemporary_Cultural_Studies#Methodology

[Fred259]

[QUOTE=Calz_Avaretard;246523] What Pete Peterson said really resonated and stuck with me ... that 15% or so of the population had the offworld dna to resist the mind control.

I think 98% is high ... I believe 85% is closer and it really makes me wonder about Pete's assessment.

I agree that those not yet "awakened" perhaps might not be able to do so???

Hoping for the "100th monkey effect" to take hold ... but not holding my breath.

See, now, that's what I don't get. How can one be 'unable' to? You look at the evidence and you use your brain and then you say - oh, I see.
And we've all got a brain.
We must just be choosing not to wake up and smell the lavatory.

What was Pete Peterson's assesment? Is it something I can read or listen to?



I've talk to a few people about 9/11 even my wife and parents plus some relatives and asked them if they believe a man that previously worked for CIA is now in a cave with a laptop and made this happen?

Sure I agree.



And they answer yes cause they saw it on tv

I agree this is the problem, tell them to stop watching TV… Its hard I know.


And when i show them the evidence they reply that its all made up from people like me to make the goverments look bad

Yes I agree. I agree with your wife parents & relatives. It is all made up to make the government look bad. The point is it wasn’t the government who were behind 9/11, that’s the bit you need to explain. That’s even harder because it’s inconceivable that anyone could have control of the air force other than the government.

But your wife and parents are actually right because the ptb control the information in the alternative media, thus protecting them.

Julian Assange and Wickileaks constantly exposing the government’s he works for Rothschild. What’s Rothschild’s goal? To bring down the US / UK / AUS / CAN / NZ Governments. They are all the same Alex Jones, Rense, Russell Pine all of them, are used to destroy the government. So yes your wife and Parents are right IMHO.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Fred 259 I unfortunatly reconise everything you said and a lot is comming back I've forgot........I remember seeing a documentry must have been the seventies about a espionage school in the Soviet union where beautifull young male/female recruits were trained to honey trap western diplomats & military personell...Of course it must be still going on, Its one of the oldest tricks since man evolved sexual Entrapment/ Blackmail ?......Do you think the problem is we are sleepwalking ?

All of what you say is familiar and maybe we are being mind controlled by constant negative new broadcasts to ignore it ....I'll look at that link later...Cheers Steve

ps i'm not totally asleep just had a good rant about Blair on another thread, Warmongering hippocrite ....

[Fred259]

[QUOTE]=Cidersomerset;247379]Hi Fred 259 I unfortunatly reconise everything you said and a lot is comming back I've forgot........I remember seeing a documentry must have been the seventies about a espionage school in the Soviet union where beautifull young male/female recruits were trained to honey trap western diplomats & military personell...Of course it must be still going on, Its one of the oldest tricks since man evolved sexual Entrapment/ Blackmail ?......[QUOTE]

Yes it’s still going on but the problems we face aren’t the Soviet Union or Russia but the New World Order. It’s all these people who were at Bilderberg last week and others well above.

Take Tony Haywood, the BP Managing Director at the time of the gulf oil disaster for example. They destroyed the rig deliberately to defraud an insurance company who they were fighting with. It’s all mixed up with one group fighting another. Haywood wasn’t part of the plan but suffered the consequences.

If you recall the Americans were going ballistic because he wouldn’t say anything and continued to act the wimp. I wasn’t at that meeting. I didn’t read that document. I was unaware of that. He never committed himself because he knew that he had been stitched up.

Eventually they say Tony we will make you managing director of BP Russia and $12 million per year. He agrees. Snap, that’s it now he’s trapped, they will use Haywood again. What he should say is NO, leave the country and go and farm in New Zealand, leave the industry completely.

Bill Clinton. Wouldn’t do as he was instructed. Naughty Bill. So they sent in mucky Monica, he fell for that and then they exposed him.

David Cameron and the South African nukes. He lost three of them and stole 17 million for the conservative party. Trapped. Used again fifteen years later to be prime minister.


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The Blue eyed boy


Today, now Cairn Energy a little known oil company based in Edinburgh are drilling for oil in the artic circle. NM Rothschild raised 9.2 billion from pension funds investment managers (maybe even your employer Steve) and little old ladies for this venture.

They have no intention of drilling for oil. It’s a sham. The money is already lost. Cairn now charters a rig for 62 days day’s $ one million per day and fanny around in the artic circle. Greenpeace are in hot pursuit worrying about the enviroment. Rothschild controls Greenpeace at arms length and so protestors board the rig and create havoc. That’s exactly what they want. They will play this game for five years and swindle as many as they possibly can and then say Sorry the dollar price per barrel is much lower its not economical. Sorry.


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Cairn Energy Plc Fake drilling in the Artic.
Bill Gammell the CEO of Cairn had a good upbringing until they got involved with the Bush family. They get greedy and get sucked in by the big boys and trapped.

Read this Wicki and its plain to see. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gammell

This one is on your doorstep Steve pop up and see how its coming along…..

ANGLESEY MINING PLC
Anglesey
LL68 9RE.

Here they plan to mine for coal. The only problem is the mine was abandoned years ago. It’s hopelessly flooded, its 100% fake. Ask yourself... does it look abandoned??


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Yet another Fraud - Investors loose cash & shirt - bankers get the cash and a new shirt.

This made me laugh. The association to:

Hoodless Brennon
Put it under a Microscope:
45% owned by JUNO Limited? Which is the recorded Parent Company registered in (Bermuda)

Subsidiaries
ANGLO CANADIAN EXPLORATION (ACE) Ltd
PARY’S MOUNTAIN MINES Ltd
PARY’S MOUNTAIN MINES (UK) Ltd

Substantial shareholdings

JUNO Ltd
Strategic Lines Asset Management Ltd

Here lies the undeniable COMMON relationship to:
22 ARLINGTON STREET. LONDON SW1A 1RDand
34 PARLIAMENT PLACE. PERTH AUSTRALIA

22 Arlington Street is a “boiler house” where all these fake companies are registered at. It’s at the back of the Ritz Hotel so terribly terribly respectable you understand.

The Sir Tufton-Bufton’s from the Tory shires and all the well healed meet and then pop in at the Ritz for afternoon tea and pink champagne.

Then its you will be sticking in 6 won’t you, Yes replies Sir Tufton I can manage 6 and Lady Tifton she will invest 5. Wonderful…….. Bang say goodbye to 11 million. All it cost them was $300 for tea and champers at the Ritz.



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You can’t make this up it’s all recorded at Companies House.

Directors Shareholdings.
JOHN KEARNEY
LORD CRICKHOWELL
MALCOLM BURNE
IAN CUTHBERTSON
MALCOLM SWALLOW
DANESH VARMA

Let’s look at just one Director.
JOHN KEARNEY
a.k.a.

JOHN F KEARNEY
Take a visit to the TSX-V

Here lies another story; the unseen “Smoke & Mirrors” trail of financially collapsed fake “EXPLORATION” Companies where all the investors lost a fortune. They were all 100% fake.


Blackwater Capital Corp
Canadian Pioneer Energy Inc
Conquest Resources Ltd
Lytton Minerals Ltd (Here’s a cracker)
McCarthy Corporation Plc
Sonora Diamond Corp
Energold Minerals Inc





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This is what they do. They hire a digger and a hole is dug. They put a fence around the hole and stick a portacabin and a sign on the site. It can be in Wales Yukon Kazakhstan Australia even at sea and even in the Artic circle $$$ the fraud is spectacular and it goes on all day everyday…..remember though, this could be your pension fund, your hard earned retirement, little old ladies etc.

[Teakai]

I've talk to a few people about 9/11 even my wife and parents plus some relatives and asked them if they believe a man that previously worked for CIA is now in a cave with a laptop and made this happen? and they answer yes cause they saw it on tv and when i show them the evidence they reply that its all made up from people like me to make the goverments look bad......thats how badly they are still asleep .

:lol: That's what 'the guy' said to me yesterday .
The videos showing all the evidence are the ones that are manipulated.

I say, but what happened to building 7? There is never any answer to that one.

No one wants to look deeply. They might accidentally swallow the red pill and once you do that, your in.

[Fred259]

I found this on another thread..the left wing disappears and engines are disproportional it would seem…






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek-Q0T9wK2g&feature=player_embedded

[nearing]

Found this while looking for the 'nose' tape.

Could be there were no planes at all and the 'planes' were only added at a later date for televising.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cvWwIxMbmE&playnext=1&list=PLB96D0F8560862640
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cvWwIxMbmE&playnext=1&list=PLB96D0F8560862640

OMG. There was no plane in the second video.

And the first the photographer is back pedaling like crazy!

[nearing]

[QUOTE=Teakai;246519]

From where l'm standing it seems like about 98% are still entranced in the Matrix - but that may just be the company I keep.
I hear lots of people are waking up - only when I look around, I'm not seeing much/any evidence of it in the people I know.




What Pete Peterson said really resonated and stuck with me ... that 15% or so of the population had the offworld dna to resist the mind control.I think 98% is high ... I believe 85% is closer and it really makes me wonder about Pete's assessment.

I agree that those not yet "awakened" perhaps might not be able to do so???

Wow…Calz !! did Pete Peterson say that ?

I trust your judgment and the 15% of the global population remark.

These are the people with rhesus negative blood cultures who can’t as you say be mind controlled.

The ptb are rhesus negative, but O rhesus negatives the purest of blood groups.

This is why they are tracking the Rhesus negatives, as they can’t be subjected to mind control as you say, and further they want to eliminate the A and AB Rhesus negatives.

It’s considered they have the capability to eliminate all the Rhesus positives, so that’s 85% of the global population. If they can find the A and AB Rhesus negatives and eliminate them, this would only leave the O Rhesus negatives, which is of course is the exclusive blood group of the ptb.

Sick Bastards.

However…..fear not….

Once they have found a way of ring fencing the A & AB rhesus negatives this will then only leave “them” the O Rhesus negatives (the ptb).

At this point a counter attack is launched eliminating the O Rhesus negs thus removing once and for all the ptb.



Hoping for the "100th monkey effect" to take hold ... but not holding my breath.

This is an unusual comment Calz, would you be willing to expand?

PS. Calz, this is superb dot joining my friend. Well done.

Remember at the very end of the Pete Peterson interview Kerry thanked Dr Peterson and she turned to Bill and asked for his comments (on video) and Bill said. “It’s the best interview we’ve done”

Bill has also said publically on the forum in writing and video that the Pete Peterson interview may have been one that “they” the ptb didn’t like.

However again at the end of the video Kerry thanked Dr Peterson quote.. “ Thank you for your services to humanity”

Folks don’t worry about this. These criminals are going down. In much the same way as in the US for example they have a “No fly list” held by Dept of Homeland Security be advised we also have a “No Fly List” of them….. We have seen the UK A list and the Australian B List. It’s all very interesting. Of course the list is changing all the time.

They think they are one step ahead. No not at all, only half a step at best. They forget for example that “we” that is “those of us in civilised society” are stupid. They forget for example that we also have people working in airports, sea ports, and who also have access to the Saber passenger reservation system and the pink luxury leather passports.

It’s not a matter of if but when.



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Whoa! Wait a minute! I am O neg! AndI am decidedly not one of them but am very much awakened. We cannot all be lumped via blood type!

[Teakai]

These are the people with rhesus negative blood cultures who can’t as you say be mind controlled.

The ptb are rhesus negative, but O rhesus negatives the purest of blood groups.

This is why they are tracking the Rhesus negatives, as they can’t be subjected to mind control as you say, and further they want to eliminate the A and AB Rhesus negatives.




That doesn't sound right, Fred.
These people are mind controlled in the extreme.

That some escape and tell the story of how they are mind controlled shows that they can be.

Must be another reason.

[Fred259]

These are the people with rhesus negative blood cultures who can’t as you say be mind controlled.

The ptb are rhesus negative, but O rhesus negatives the purest of blood groups.

This is why they are tracking the Rhesus negatives, as they can’t be subjected to mind control as you say, and further they want to eliminate the A and AB Rhesus negatives.




That doesn't sound right, Fred.
These people are mind controlled in the extreme.

That some escape and tell the story of how they are mind controlled shows that they can be.

Must be another reason.
Its really the eugenics side that is the concern Teaks…

[T Smith]

I probably said the same thing somewhere else, that I do believe it was real planes, either drones or aircraft full of dead people (nerve gassed in midair) that were expertly guided into their destinations from a remote signal or uploaded program.

Oh dear! I believe that some of the passengers died in Pennsylvania (I can never keep the flight numbers straight) and that the majority were possibly gassed and removed to off site bases. But there has been some very strong indication that a few, did not die.

Inriguing. Haven't run across this possibility in my travels. What evidence suggests this?

[Teakai]

These are the people with rhesus negative blood cultures who can’t as you say be mind controlled.

The ptb are rhesus negative, but O rhesus negatives the purest of blood groups.

This is why they are tracking the Rhesus negatives, as they can’t be subjected to mind control as you say, and further they want to eliminate the A and AB Rhesus negatives.




That doesn't sound right, Fred.
These people are mind controlled in the extreme.

That some escape and tell the story of how they are mind controlled shows that they can be.

Must be another reason.
Its really the eugenics side that is the concern Teaks…

Well, yes - on both sides of the scale.

If both sides are thinking they need to eradicate the other side in order to achieve whatever it is they want to achieve, then it is indeed a problem.

Imagine if Rh+ blood types decided that the solution to the problem was that the Rh-'s had to go?

But, that it is thought that the negative blood types are immune to mind control is evidently not the case.

[Fred259]

These are the people with rhesus negative blood cultures who can’t as you say be mind controlled.

The ptb are rhesus negative, but O rhesus negatives the purest of blood groups.

This is why they are tracking the Rhesus negatives, as they can’t be subjected to mind control as you say, and further they want to eliminate the A and AB Rhesus negatives.




That doesn't sound right, Fred.
These people are mind controlled in the extreme.

That some escape and tell the story of how they are mind controlled shows that they can be.

Must be another reason.
Its really the eugenics side that is the concern Teaks…

Well, yes - on both sides of the scale.

If both sides are thinking they need to eradicate the other side in order to achieve whatever it is they want to achieve, then it is indeed a problem.

Imagine if Rh+ blood types decided that the solution to the problem was that the Rh-'s had to go?

But, that it is thought that the negative blood types are immune to mind control is evidently not the case.

Well the real answer is we don’t know. The problem is the geneticist on the forum has gone quite but it was considered they were tracking A and Ab Rhesus negs because they only want O Rhesus negs with is the pure bloodline, ie the ptb bloodline

[Teakai]

Well the real answer is we don’t know. The problem is the geneticist on the forum has gone quite but it was considered they were tracking A and Ab Rhesus negs because they only want O Rhesus negs with is the pure bloodline, ie the ptb bloodline

If the 'ptb' got rid of all the slaves - who would do the stinky work for them? Who would fix stuff, or invent stuff or clean the toilets or cook the food, load the dishwaher, pick up the dog poo? (examples borrowed heavily from my life)

If they can't mind control the pure negatives, then it's not likely they'll be able to program any of them to do it.

That whole theory sounds a bit iffy. If we're guessing one part - maybe the all the rest is just guesswork, too?

And, just to add to the guesswork - perhaps they want the pure negatives because they are a suitable physical vehicle.

[Fred259]

Well the real answer is we don’t know. The problem is the geneticist on the forum has gone quite but it was considered they were tracking A and Ab Rhesus negs because they only want O Rhesus negs with is the pure bloodline, ie the ptb bloodline

If the 'ptb' got rid of all the slaves - who would do the stinky work for them? Who would fix stuff, or invent stuff or clean the toilets or cook the food, load the dishwaher, pick up the dog poo? (examples borrowed heavily from my life)

If they can't mind control the pure negatives, then it's not likely they'll be able to program any of them to do it.

That whole theory sounds a bit iffy. If we're guessing one part - maybe the all the rest is just guesswork, too?

And, just to add to the guesswork - perhaps they want the pure negatives because they are a suitable physical vehicle.

Im not guessing anything, we are discussing what Pete Peterson said in the B&K Video…

[Teakai]

Im not guessing anything, we are discussing what Pete Peterson said in the B&K Video…

I didn't mean you personally were guessing, Fred.

But who is saying that the 0 negatives can't be mind controlled?

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what Pete Peterson said in the B&K Video…

What's the B&K video - have you got a link?

[Fred259]

Im not guessing anything, we are discussing what Pete Peterson said in the B&K Video…

I didn't mean you personally were guessing, Fred.

But who is saying that the 0 negatives can't be mind controlled?

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what Pete Peterson said in the B&K Video…

What's the B&K video - have you got a link?

It’s the Pete Peterson video interview they did while B&K were still together, its over at Camelot in the Library.

He said 15% of the global population had off planet DNA and couldn’t be mind controlled, that’s what we’re discussing

T… I need to go its 05.15 I’m already in the spare room, it will be the grange next!

[Teakai]

It’s the Pete Peterson video interview they did while B&K were still together, its over at Camelot in the Library.

He said 15% of the global population had off planet DNA and couldn’t be mind controlled, that’s what we’re discussing

T… I need to go its 05.15 I’m already in the spare room, it will be the grange next!

ohhhh, B&K is Bill and Kerry!

I have listened to that before quite a while ago, but will listen to it again this afternoon while I do some quilting.

The grange sounds nice - that wouldnt be so bad would it? It's Summer over your way after all :)

[Hervé]

[...]
How so many people can remain so entranced is beyond any explanation for me except for mind control.

IMHO ... and always open to other opinions :)

[...]
That's like we're living with 85% zombies.

[...]
What I am trying to say is TO ME PERSONALLY it makes no sense how so many (regardless of what percentage we attach to it) can be so oblivious to what is going on.

That's all :)

One very simple way is called "post-hypnotic command/order."

How's that done?

... during abductions

... before "birth" or "walking-in" from those same "labs"

... in-between lives... in those same labs...

... and there you have it!

There you have your 85% skull-dwelling zombies!

They truly are zombies, under the spell of a post-hypnotic controlled behaviour.

They truly cannot see, understand, comprehend, whatever: they have been ordered not to!

UFOs cannot exist fror them; they cannot see them! Why? They have been ordered not to!

Ever seen stage-hypnotism? That should give you enough needed clues.

More infos/data at: http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115750/http://matrixrevealed.com/

[T Smith]

What Pete Peterson said really resonated and stuck with me ... that 15% or so of the population had the offworld dna to resist the mind control.

I think 98% is high ... I believe 85% is closer and it really makes me wonder about Pete's assessment.

I agree that those not yet "awakened" perhaps might not be able to do so???

Hoping for the "100th monkey effect" to take hold ... but not holding my breath.

See, now, that's what I don't get. How can one be 'unable' to? You look at the evidence and you use your brain and then you say - oh, I see.
And we've all got a brain.
We must just be choosing not to wake up and smell the lavatory.

What was Pete Peterson's assesment? Is it something I can read or listen to?


I've talk to a few people about 9/11 even my wife and parents plus some relatives and asked them if they believe a man that previously worked for CIA is now in a cave with a laptop and made this happen? and they answer yes cause they saw it on tv and when i show them the evidence they reply that its all made up from people like me to make the goverments look bad......thats how badly they are still asleep .

Ha, ha, ha. Lol. This is when I would respond that governments need no help from "people like me" to look bad. Humor aside, it is alarming the degree to which people are unconscious. I don't pretend to know the exact percentages, but I would say there is but a very small group of people fully aware of what is going on. The Avalon forum is a fine representative of this group. That is not to say we all agree upon or know with full clarity exactly what is going on--hence the continual search for the elusive truth--but this group nonetheless is aware of what is going on. I liken this to those who can perceive hidden 3-D images in 2-D landscapes posters, except the hidden image is not a mountain, a city, or something familar. But it is definately something the majority of others seemingly cannot see. Those who can see the hidden reality can then discuss and debate what it is they see. To some degree, that is what we are doing here on the Avalon forum...

Then there is a second group who ridicule, violently oppose, or ignore the truth, but deep down know they are embracing, for whatever the reasons, an illusion disguised as reality.

Then there is a third group that is utterly unconscious--asleep if you like--like your wife, parents, and relatives. You can prove to them, beyond a reasonable doubt, that their eyes are shut and they are dreaming, but to them the dream is much more real than any reality system based on evidence, universal laws, reason, facts, admission, and commonly accepted history. They filter out, ignore, or simply cannot perceive the inconsistancies in their dreamscape. If you are so bold to point them out, they reconcile your "strange arguments" with a kind of dream logic that tells them the messenger is not fully embedded in the dream and therefore is not a credible authority on the dreamscape. Instead of acknowledging the specific evidence, this group will simply invalidate the argument by default on grounds that it violates the givens. The number one given, of course, is that they are not asleep and the messenger is delusional. This is a form of hypnosis, and yes, mind control. It is really very facsinating to observe.

If I were to guess, I would say the 15% Pete Peterson talks about is probababy some mix of the first two groups, while 85% of the rest is fully unconscious.

[Calz]

[QUOTE=Teakai;246519]

From where l'm standing it seems like about 98% are still entranced in the Matrix - but that may just be the company I keep.
I hear lots of people are waking up - only when I look around, I'm not seeing much/any evidence of it in the people I know.




What Pete Peterson said really resonated and stuck with me ... that 15% or so of the population had the offworld dna to resist the mind control.I think 98% is high ... I believe 85% is closer and it really makes me wonder about Pete's assessment.

I agree that those not yet "awakened" perhaps might not be able to do so???

Wow…Calz !! did Pete Peterson say that ?

I trust your judgment and the 15% of the global population remark.

These are the people with rhesus negative blood cultures who can’t as you say be mind controlled.

The ptb are rhesus negative, but O rhesus negatives the purest of blood groups.

This is why they are tracking the Rhesus negatives, as they can’t be subjected to mind control as you say, and further they want to eliminate the A and AB Rhesus negatives.

It’s considered they have the capability to eliminate all the Rhesus positives, so that’s 85% of the global population. If they can find the A and AB Rhesus negatives and eliminate them, this would only leave the O Rhesus negatives, which is of course is the exclusive blood group of the ptb.

Sick Bastards.

However…..fear not….

Once they have found a way of ring fencing the A & AB rhesus negatives this will then only leave “them” the O Rhesus negatives (the ptb).

At this point a counter attack is launched eliminating the O Rhesus negs thus removing once and for all the ptb.



Hoping for the "100th monkey effect" to take hold ... but not holding my breath.

This is an unusual comment Calz, would you be willing to expand?

PS. Calz, this is superb dot joining my friend. Well done.

Remember at the very end of the Pete Peterson interview Kerry thanked Dr Peterson and she turned to Bill and asked for his comments (on video) and Bill said. “It’s the best interview we’ve done”

Bill has also said publically on the forum in writing and video that the Pete Peterson interview may have been one that “they” the ptb didn’t like.

However again at the end of the video Kerry thanked Dr Peterson quote.. “ Thank you for your services to humanity”

Folks don’t worry about this. These criminals are going down. In much the same way as in the US for example they have a “No fly list” held by Dept of Homeland Security be advised we also have a “No Fly List” of them….. We have seen the UK A list and the Australian B List. It’s all very interesting. Of course the list is changing all the time.

They think they are one step ahead. No not at all, only half a step at best. They forget for example that “we” that is “those of us in civilised society” are stupid. They forget for example that we also have people working in airports, sea ports, and who also have access to the Saber passenger reservation system and the pink luxury leather passports.

It’s not a matter of if but when.



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Thanks for you post Fred ... sorry for taking so long to respond. Been overseas for 3 weeks and mostly in areas with super slow net access.

Yep Pete said about 15% having certain offworld dna were much more resistant to (don't remember if he said immune to) mind control than the rest of the populace.

Don't remember if he mentioned blood type but that could well have been part of it. Thanks for passing that along regardless. Adds another twist to the ptb/w database for all medical/dna records.

100th monkey effect ... I expect you heard the story of monkeys on remote islands where 1 finds a new foodsource, then another and another. After about 100 monkeys then at once all the monkeys (of that type I suppose) all telepathically gain the knowledge even in the adjoining islands where there would be no direct contact.

I was merely voicing hope that those "awakened" could somehow pass along the "higher consiousness" (if you will) to the rest of "the matrix".

Not holding my breath on that ... obvious scepticism of my own hope. After years of attempts at "waking people up" I have long stopped. That is why I wonder if the 85% simply are not capable of cutting through the control.

Thanks for your additional comments (note to self ... gotta remember to paint my passport pink) :haha:


*** adding ***

Care for a little synchronicity???

From Bill Ryan OP starting the Gaia thread:

Rupert Sheldrake brought us the concept of Morphic Fields and Morphic Resonance. Lynne McTaggart described ‘The Field’ in her best-selling book of the same name. We have an intuitive understanding of the Hundred Monkey syndrome, and of Tipping Points in general.

Gotta luv it when that happens :luv:

[Calz]

I know I had the very same conversation with a workmate this morning , he would not listen , I kept to the basics , could not be flown by amatuers, Deffence Stand down, Excuse to go to war etc..he was saying all rubbish .........The conversation carried on and later , I mentioned I was going to see Rich Hall next Thurs in Weston..I thought best not to mention holograms and the ball.....anyway he asked if he charged and I said £7.50p a ticket and the banter went on others chipping in.
At this point he changed direction and said all ufo stuff was crap and they were only init for the money , I pointed out it would barely cover his expences unless it was a full House....Anyway he said he believed in God Bla bla bla.....To which I responded fine everyone to there own , and that God did not come into it...and did he realise That Gods so called little helpers down here did not do there ministry work for nothing and some of them were criminals and wealthy and live in luxury ,Bishops, Cardinals and the Pope preaching from his little shack in Rome, financed by the Vatican Bank off the sweat and tears of the brainwashed masses.....That abruptly ended the discusion..

This is how you know the aircraft are fake. Watch the video of the south tower aircraft perhaps four or five times. Notice how smooth it is. The aircraft always has “constant relative velocity” which is a constant speed on a constant heading or direction.

Then think like this.

Suppose we go to Silverstone racetrack with Michael Schumacher and his Ferrari. On race day Schumacher will take the temp and the density of the air and he will say; I will take that corner at 147mph right on the limit flat out. If he does 149mph he spins, 145mph and he is 2 seconds off pole position so it’s got to be 147mph.

On race day half a mile from the corner he sets the car up and rolls his hands “ten to four” and locks his elbow. The car takes the corner at 147mph flat out which is why he is the genius he is, but above all the car also has “constant relative velocity”.

Schumacher completes the lap and pulls up at the pits. He jumps out and gives the helmet to you Steve. Do you think you could take the corner at 147mph precisely and a constant relative velocity…..answer NO of course not, but you would have a damn good try.

So away you go and you set the car up just like Schumacher, but when you hit the corner unlike Schumacher and his “ten to four” with elbows locked your hands are constantly feeding up and down trying to see how far you can push it. Do you understand me your hands will be ten to four then quarter to three then even maybe five to five as you struggle to take this corner. You never manage to achieve “constant relative velocity”.

This is the bit you just need to believe…What I have just described with the constant movement of your hands up and down etc is precisely the way you handle a large jet.
It’s 150tons going at 220knots (250mph) in a turn. Think of that for a moment… the forces are immense and to keep it even remotely on heading requires constant changeable inputs just like you Steve in the Ferrari with your hands… Understand? It’s almost impossible to hand fly at constant relative velocity. YET in the video of the aircraft hitting the south tower with Mohammed Atta he was achieving constant relative velocity…go and watch the video you can see it for yourself…. It’s impossible for any human to do that. A computer YES, because its reactions are 70 times faster but not a human. That’s why we shout Red flag red flag this is BS and fake.

Then they say the aircraft was doing 500mph which is absolutely impossible, the air density at sea level is so thick that it’s impossible to achieve. Furthermore the Velocity Maximum operating speed (VMO) for the B767 at sea level is 340kts. Boeing decide this during testing and evaluation and set that speed for all B767 worldwide.

What they are essentially saying is that above 340kts the aircraft will start to disintegrate due to flutter and other factors. Therefore BS + more BS = Total utter BS. Ted Turner from CNN cut the film and deceived the world. Ted Turner is of course part of the problem.

Was not the pentagon alleged flight path even more impossible (at least with a piloted airliner)???

And speaking of Camelot witnesses ... did not Henry Deacon say he was responsible (at least partly) for the remote control technology which was used that day on at least one plane???

[Hervé]

[...]
This is a form of hypnosis, and yes, mind control. It is really very facsinating to observe.

If I were to guess, I would say the 15% Pete Peterson talks about is probababy some mix of the first two groups, while 85% of the rest is fully unconscious.



[...]
100th monkey effect ... I expect you heard the story of monkeys on remote islands where 1 finds a new foodsource, then another and another. After about 100 monkeys then at once all the monkeys (of that type I suppose) all telepathically gain the knowledge even in the adjoining islands where there would be no direct contact.

I was merely voicing hope that those "awakened" could somehow pass along the "higher consiousness" (if you will) to the rest of "the matrix".

Not holding my breath on that ... obvious scepticism of my own hope. After years of attempts at "waking people up" I have long stopped. That is why I wonder if the 85% simply are not capable of cutting through the control.

Thanks for your additional comments (note to self ... gotta remember to paint my passport pink) :haha:

Well, that's the thing, it is 100% pure hypnotism.

Where do you think those satanic cult and their mind control and personality split got their technologies from in the ages past?

Where do you think the MKultra type of technologies derived from? A little help from the Vryl society? And their ET Gizah Intelligence contacts?

So, yes Calz, while working hard at waking up that damn 98th monkey, they are shurning out a 1001 at a time in their "labs," whether underground, off planet or off dimension... so as to maintain the consciousness of the status quo quite a bit beyond our 98th monkey.

Hence what we need to find is what would jolt those skull-dwelling zombies out of their post-hypnotic trance when we know that even 9-11 didn't. Doesn't even matter if these plane were holographs, maquillaged drones or remotely controlled real planes.

I think that one would have to start from "their reality" of love and light status quo while DU bullets are flying all over the planet and the radioactivity blamed on Fukushima.

I haven't found a solution to that one yet.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Fred259 Excelent summary......... I , probably like your good self am part of the post war 'Baby Boomers' Generation and everyone in the country has known for the past forty years there was a pension deficit to be sorted out, before now...

So instead of doing anything about it , each government passed it to the next......Now all of a sudden the s--- has hit the fan.....I don't buy it.....There is/has always been money for wars....Make money for pensions, it can be done...

If the Trillions were'nt stolen by the PTB and if HRH would like to donate some of her billions ...the pot would soon fill back up....I'm not a 'commie loving Lefty' Just a ' Wonderfull Human Creator' on a cosmic journey and believe in love and fairplay for all........The Biggest crooks in the world are the white collered city slickers , not all obviously , but it is far easier to press a button/ push a pen to steal , than it is to rob a bank....
Above that are the real 'Banksters' and 'Robber Barons' Corporate and Governmental as you so eloquently explained in your post......This latest collapse was so blatently manufactured , only a couple of years ago there was a so called labour shortage and thousands were let in to fill the void . This Imho was to cool down the economy before the main event , By cutting labour rates flooding the market with cheap labour , this putting proffits back up & costs down ..

Something like this has always happened and its a valve to stop the economy over or under performing and is neccessary when used correctly .Its called the economic cycle for good or bad its the way Bank of England /Fed controls things...It also leads to 'Booms & Busts' Where rich steal the money back from the poor , The 'Banksters'/ 'Elite' way of staying in charge..

Anyway Gordon Brown announced an end to 'Boom & Bust ' politics and you can see why TPTB dropped him like a ton of bricks when he became PM,......Because as we are witnessing now all over the western world in similar scenario's ,The 'Banksters' PTB Are squeezing the wealth back out, of the majority of us with any scam they can think up............

God knows how I got here Fred , gone off at a tangent...LOL cheers Steve

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Fred259 I'm listening to a very interesting interview by Ian crane ( Geo-political reasercher & former oil field executive ) on Red ice radio broad cast 16/6/2011 ..he is covering virtually everything we are discussing here from population reduction , B P spill

, Mossad & israeli security firms involvement with basically everything 9/11..7/7.....Fuchishima , Ecoli in Germany , Remote controlled hi jacking of aircraft and more. I'm still listening...have you heard of him ? .....Steve


P.S....very good interview deffinately worth a listen .....( only 1st hour available,unless your a member )

[Fred259]

Hi Fred259 I'm listening to a very interesting interview by Ian crane ( Geo-political reasercher & former oil field executive ) on Red ice radio broad cast 16/6/2011 ..he is covering virtually everything we are discussing here from population reduction , B P spill

, Mossad & israeli security firms involvement with basically everything 9/11..7/7.....Fuchishima , Ecoli in Germany , Remote controlled hi jacking of aircraft and more. I'm still listening...have you heard of him ? .....Steve


P.S....very good interview deffinately worth a listen .....( only 1st hour available,unless your a member )

Fred

Yes. He is from Somerset or Devon perhaps.

He comes from the oil industry so will have a good understanding of that industry. The Fuchishima and E Coli are just recent so I would imagine he would have got that from inside, but always remember it can be twisted like 9/11 Muslims Jews Bush, then Jews Muslims Bush, then Bush Muslims Jews anything but the truth ie London..

Instead of listening to all these other people pick a subject and research it yourself, or research something you know about whatever that may be.

In the First World War the message went back down the trenches by word of mouth “Send up 3/4d (three and four pence) we are going to a dance”

The real message was “Send up reinforcements we’re going to advance”

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Fred259 ...He said he lives in devon, and I have been doing field work looking up at 'Chemtrails ' Which you assure me don't exist..LOL ......Don't respond to this just 'smile' ....LOL

I might find something else , i've always been interested in military history especially WW11 , which is linked very much with the UFO side of things ,Nazi Bell , Foo Fighters etc........But I'm getting a bit more esoterical in my old age..

I'll see where the Forum takes me........Steve

[Pagan]

I'll always wondered where all the real amateur photo material are? Nothing with no-planes ever surfaced on the you tube. I read somewhere that the authorities asked everyone to turn in their material and also that all photo material were confiscated from the "developers". However something should have slipped trough, and eventually surfaced, at some point? Very many should have been taping this, after the first plane hit?

[Fred259]

[QUOTE]Thanks Fred259 ...He said he lives in devon, and I have been doing field work looking up at 'Chemtrails ' Which you assure me don't exist..LOL ......Don't respond to this just 'smile' ....LOL

You’re only 50 what are you going on about. I was really impressed with your field work, in fact I was going to suggest you record some data, and I would support you 100%, I would give you the formula, you keep the data secret (ie don’t tell me) and you could prove it once and for all, at the very least for yourself.


I'm getting a bit more esoterical in my old age..

Did you read the documents on Frankfurt School of Subversion? What you call esoterical I would suggest might be subversion. I said might. This is the problem, I’m the same age as you, it’s our generation who learnt facts at school knowledge from text books, with slide rules and log tables, that can’t tell lies unlike internet forums.

Go pack one page to #41 nearing….look at her comments, she’s just watched a video and after ten years it’s hit her real hard that no real aircraft actually hit the towers. Read her comments the poor girl is very upset… that’s subversion. We call her a victim in all this; nearing “was” but not now thankfully. However my darling beloved friend nearing still kicks sand in my face over the subject above so when the field work is complete Steve it will be OMG again…do you see.


I'll see where the Forum takes me........Steve

Bliss.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi fred259... Yes I did read the document on the Frankfurt school, very interesting infact I started my first thread about it . The trouble was MariaDine had done it one a month or so before....
so it did not last long..LOL ...but it did bring it to my attention cheers Steve..

[Cidersomerset]

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[EYES WIDE OPEN]

[QUOTE=Teakai;246479]Found this while looking for the 'nose' tape.

Could be there were no planes at all and the 'planes' were only added at a later date for televising.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cvWwIxMbmE&playnext=1&list=PLB96D0F8560862640
9cvWwIxMbmE

OMG. There was no plane in the second video.

And the first the photographer is back pedaling like crazy!

Nice to see that the guy who made that video can admit to being wrong. It takes guts to do so. I wonder how many will still defend the ridiculous no plane theory.

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[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Looks like nobody disagrees with me. Thats great to see.

[kathymarie]

....and did you guys read the information from the original uploader....mentioning the presence of orbs at both the Towers and the Pentagon? Thoughts?


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[Logan]

Hello folks.

I was born and raised in Washington DC and have lived in the area my entire life. I have spent years commuting on the DC Metro. My wife as well was born and raised here, and we have always had questions about 9/11.

She lived in Alexandria, VA a few miles away from the Pentagon at the time and on the day of after the attacks was on roads where she was within eyesight of the Pentagon and she said she didn't see any airplane wreckage that day.

I saw the Pentagon the day after and my initial thought was that the hole does not seem big enough for an airplane.

Anyway these thoughts kind of went away for a while but my memory of my initial impression did not.

Queue 2009 and the birth of my son (I promise not to derail because I easily could derail and start bragging about my boy LOL) - I was laid off of work and decided to take extra time to just stay at home with my little guy for his first year. I start watching these documentaries with my newfound free time and discover Alex Jones' Terrorstorm and Loose Change.

Both left me pretty shaken. I find it hard to believe the kind of blinders most people need to simply function in American society. I've always had eyes wide open. Example: I was the only 13 year old in Middle School who did a History Report on the Kennedy Assassination and presented my theories that the CIA and Mafia worked together to take out Kennedy.

I've revised the theory since but I digress. I think if you grow up in Washington DC with any kind of mind you are going to notice things in DC and I've never been one to take anyone's word for granted. Whether it was teachers in school, my folks, the gov't, anyone... I'm just a stubborn guy and I need to form my own opinions on things. I never went the church route because I just felt like I didn't belong but I realize I can't fit my thoughts on the universe into a belief system.

Anyway... sorry to ramble it's one of my first posts and I'm eager to make a good impression.

I recently watched Bill and Carrie's interview with John Lear from the Project Camelot days and he seems to be completely on point with the Holographics discussion. I do think the powers that be have technology WAY beyond the piddly iPhones they keep us in line with.

I'll stop here, I look forward to discussing this in great length with my new friends here at PA.

:)

[Camilo]

I think "they" used most everything at "their" disposal for 9/11.

Anyone believing it originated from caves in afghanistan is either way overdue for a wakeup call or else hopeless ...

IMHO

Or in complete denial. I'm conversing with someone like that at the moment. They said they just couldn't believe Bush could be capable of such evil, on further investigation as to why Bush couldn't be, but Muslim extremists could be it was on the grounds that Bush is a Christian. (as is the person I'm conversing with)

Unfortunately, the vast mayority of people, regardless of their religious background, have been dumbed down to the degree, they believe Bush is a nice guy. They re-elected him, for crying out loud.