Dan Burisch Tell The World Our History Involving The ETs

[The One]

Dan Burisch was a so called member of MJ12, being groomed since birth, more or less. An abductee,contactee and one of the few humans to actually work with ets, namely a J-Rod, which is apparently a version of us, but 45000 or 52000 years in the future, who came back to try and...well,you read his story, in his book "Eagles Disobey

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regarding Dan people should keep their minds open to any possibilities, that's my advice.

[Noble Hops]

What was the nature of the falling out between Bill and Dan? Is there an existing thread that goes into the details?

[crosby]

good question Noble Hops. i've been wondering that as well. i've only heard that there was an episode, but i've never been able to find out the reasons for it. i've watched as many vids as possible, but i haven't seen it yet. there may be something in the archives here that has the exact scenario, but i haven't found that either. if i happen to come across any information, i'll pass it on too you. great vid, TO. i'm a big fan of dan. his video's seem to hold something true in character.
warmest regards, corson

[robinr1]

the same dan burisch that completely trashed bill and kerry?

[crosby]

the same dan burisch that completely trashed bill and kerry?

thats what we're trying to figure out. when did this happen and what started it?
corson

[robinr1]

it did happen for a fact.....as for how it happened i have heard kerry say and im paraphrasing this........she nor bill have any idea why dan and his wife turned so abruptly against them.

[Belle]

You can visit Dan and Marcia's website at https://www.eaglesdisobey.net/. There is a link on that page to their forum 'The Golden Thread'. I just tried getting on the forum, but can't seem to get through.

There is a lot of speculation as to what happened, but no one really knows for sure.

[Aurelius]

It's a long story .. it is mostly centered around before and after the Zurich Ground Crew event. The short vers is Marcia (Dan's handler and now wife) was told by those she reports to, to target Camelot .. lots of accusations and false info followed .... part of a larger plan ...

I've met and spoken with both Dan and Marcia ... strange people indeed.

Search for "dan burisch zurich conference vaccines" and you should find what you are looking for.


What was the nature of the falling out between Bill and Dan? Is there an existing thread that goes into the details?

[jasontorque]

It came to a head during / after the Zurich Ground Crew Conference when during a panel discussion, Dan mentioned his support for some vaccinations and there was dissension in the audience. This was right in the middle of the swine-flu episode. I don't know what really happened thereafter other than some claims about financial irregularities to do with travel expenses. I recall that Kerry felt indignant that she had been left out of proceedings and this was one of the first occasions when tensions started to publicly appear between Bill and Kerry.

[stegosaur]

Here is the thing I never understood about Dan's story:

I don't doubt that he worked on aliens. My God, he is literally the first 'whistleblower' that bores me to tears. For Pete's sake he spares not 1 detail in describing how he removes a sample. I really don't know if anyone other than Tolkein can make up that level of detail.

Anyways I digress - how is it that these future humans can come back into time BUT they need modern humans, with their --52,000 year technology, to genetically save the day for them!?!?

Does this not make sense to anyone else?


I've also heard that the 'Grays' were/are really deceitful, maybe this is what people meant and Dan never got the memo?

Just my speculation, still doesn't add up to me when considering the relative technologies between the two 'humans'

[Noble Hops]

You can visit Dan and Marcia's website at https://www.eaglesdisobey.net/.

Just finished watching the 5-part video on their site called 'Eagles Disobey Exposes PC'. The whole thing is geared around Burisch accusing Bill and Kerry of being "racist" for apparently not applying Affirmative Action to their operation and having black interviewees on PC. He is sitting there in his African tie dye shirt and yarmulke (non-racist attire, lol), slandering PC with his usual phony/egotistical personality for almost an hour with that strange sidekick of his; it is a clown show.

Bill and/or Kerry must really have done something right to get that kind of treatment! Hey, Dan, I hear the ADL is looking for a new receptionist for national headquarters, lol. You have all the right qualifications, bro. ;)

[Eyes2theSkies]

Yeah, jasontorque has got most of it. They claim in the video where they bash PC, that Bill showed photos of himself with native africans and they interpreted the look on his face as disdain for these people. I'm sorry but, that is reading a lot into a photograph of a young boy in Africa!! The only thing that has bothered me about Dan is that like Steve Greer, he comes off as trying to be authoritative about the "aliens" read time travelers being the only visitors we have! As Whitley Strieber has said so many times - do not believe anyone who claims to know everything about a subject because they don't. In later interviews Dan proved this by stating point blank in the "stargate" interview with PC that MJ12 has lied to him on multiple occassions so, why would we believe that his "disclosure" is all that there is??

Something else went on between the PC crew and ED (eagles disobey) in that Dan claims Bill was aware of some security threats (and Dan had overheard him being told this by a local official) and when asked directly Bill denied knowledge of any threats.

OK look, I was not there and I refuse to say one side was right or wrong but, I haven't seen PC come out with statements against Dan since this whole mess started. I respect Kerry and Bill immensley for that!! Bravo!! They've had some difficulty with Steve Greer too. I ran into the same sort of close minded, know it all attitude when I belonged to CSETI and that is why I am no longer a member!!

No one is perfect and we can only speculate on other people's motivations. My advice to everyone is this: we live in strange times when more information is becoming available than ever before so we must strive to discern what information is most valuable. I feel that it is important to keep asking questions - something that both Bill and Whitley Strieber are both very vocal about - because this is the way we learn. When we are afraid to adapt to new knowledge, we have begun to become part of a system of non thinking participants instead of active cocreators in this reality. We must all band together to unravel the string of lies the government, military and big business has fed us for the last 50 years!!

I hope that one day in the future this issues between PC and ED can be worked out and their missions, once again, perform in concert with one another instead of this attack by Dan and Marcia on PC. To me this has shown a great weekness in what Dan and Marcia claim they are trying to accomplish. I must take a moment here to complement Bill on his avoidance of fear mongering!! Contarary to what Dr. Dan says, Bill is very outspoken about unity of the human race and a great hope for a bright future! Keep up the great work, Bill and don't let a couple of critics get you down. There are many of us who will not make assumptions about your ties, motivations or personal feelings.

[Limor Wolf]

I attended the Zurich conference on july 2009.on the second evening there was a panel discussion and the audience was invited to ask some written questions.

A couple of days before my arriving to zurich it became known that the israeli government decided to condition child allowence (a regular support that every family gets) with compulsory vaccines.being familiar with the control agenda of the elite and their intentions towords humanity I had the urge to raise this subject.having such a knowledgable and well respected group of people on stage it was only natural to want to hear their advice and point of view.

Many people in the audience were aware that the vaccinations are a form of control by the government and can be harmfull to our health,it was also just shortly before the internet started exploding with the swine flu conspiracy.

When this question was picked up by Bill and delivered to the members of the panel Dan Burisch has decided to take a more scientific stance and backed up vaccinations suggesting it has its benefits for our health system,from than on the discussion became quite controversial and stormy.

(here is the live link if anyone is interested from 08:20 minutes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?playnext=1&index=0&feature=PlayList&v=WzJvVK9lAz4&list=PL4F15C2ABED510412

After the discussion ended I went to talk to Marcia macdowell and Dan Burisch and to appologize that my question has caused them so much drama...they asured me that it was not my fault and we talked a little more about the subject.

Two weeks later after coming back to Israel I learned that Bill was accused on writing the question himself.I permitted to give my name. someone has lied by trying to claim that Bill has invented this question himself,for what purpose? who knows...

There must be a lot of mind controll involved around Dan Burisch,better not get there.. but my personal believe is that 'eagles disobey' has burned themselvs down by trying to attack and slander Bill and Kerry without getting any reaction back and by the way they shared their 'information' wich was a joke really,a lot of paranoia involved.

I also feel that whenever there is a need to attack anyone else's work it means that this person is very close to the truth and its well worth lisening to what he/she have to say or to present... this keeps happening to Bill and Kerry,another example is charles and his attempts to recruit some people to his side Under false pretenses,in order to devide the forum and take Bill down.now there are many that this is a sign for them to pay closer attention to the Avalon/Camelot information, however,others unfortunetly buying to it..

At this point I would not trust Dan Burisch or anything he has to say,although it is quite possible that a large part of his first interview with Project Camelot is Valid,as MJ-12's aim back than was to allow some information to go out,they have probably decided to turn off the tap after realizing that the flow of water coming out is a lot stronger than what they thought will be and they have no control on it.
just my two cents

Limor

[crosby]

well, thanks everyone for filling me in on the spat. i now know much more than i did a few weeks ago and that is a good thing. very good information to have. again, thanks so much.
regards, corson

[lunaflare]

Jay Weidner does not believe Tolkein "made up" any details by the way!

[Ecnal61]

hey there eyes2theskys, well said mate.

[Maia Gabrial]

Hey Stegosaur,
I'm having a problem with his story, too. It's true that he gives out alot of information, but I'm sensing that it's not all true. He's a member of MJ12; so, you have to wonder if there's an agenda to his "whistleblowing".
I don't believe that the JRods are from the future, but it sounds impressive enough. They're way more advanced than us and yet, they can't figure out how to save their race from extinction? I mean, they can do all kinds of fancy genetic experiments on us, but they can't use their own genius to alter their own genetics? Highly questionable....
I found out that they're responsible for the extinction of 3 other races in the universe. Could this just be karma catching up to them?
Take care,
Maia

[Carmody]

I've said this before and it bears saying again.

The information that Dan gave out about yellowbook and for Stargates is far too real, with regard to how such devices would need to be made. Everything he says on those two subjects is bang on, according to my understandings of those sciences.

Thus a problem emerged in that he gave too much out, possibly..inadvertently. He says that this was not his area of specialty. His is biology, not quantum mechanics and engineering.

When he described each and gave images for a stargate or portal or viewing glass, I nearly fell out of my chair.

The basics are there, all that is left is some engineering and materials science. Knowing what to do with that stuff is actually the hard part. He gave us the hard part. This is, to me, quite likely the point or act that caused him to nearly be killed in an attack ----by his own people or corner.

[aranuk]

You can visit Dan and Marcia's website at https://www.eaglesdisobey.net/.

Just finished watching the 5-part video on their site called 'Eagles Disobey Exposes PC'. The whole thing is geared around Burisch accusing Bill and Kerry of being "racist" for apparently not applying Affirmative Action to their operation and having black interviewees on PC. He is sitting there in his African tie dye shirt and yarmulke (non-racist attire, lol), slandering PC with his usual phony/egotistical personality for almost an hour with that strange sidekick of his; it is a clown show.

Hi NH I watched it too. I agree with everything you said here. I don't think Dan or Marcie are right in the head. They also speak like kids bad mouthing one of their friends.

Stan

[Belle]

I've said this before and it bears saying again.

The information that Dan gave out about yellowbook and for Stargates is far too real, with regard to how such devices would need to be made. Everything he says on those two subjects is bang on, accoding o my understandings of those sciences.

Thus a problem emerged in that he gave too much out, possibly..inadvertently. He says that this was not his area of specialty. His is biology,. not quantum mechanics and engineering.

When he described each and gave images for a stargate or portal or viewing glass, I nearly fell out of my chair.

The basics are there, all that is left is some engineering and materials science. Knowing what to do with that stuff is actually the hard part. He gave us the hard part. This is, to me, quite likely the point or act that caused him to nearly be killed in an attack ----by his own people or corner.

I'm pretty sure that Marcia McDowell was his handler, and since they have been married has had him on a very short leash. She makes all the decisions about what is released, how much is released, when and how.

imo, he is has a brilliant mind, but does not deal well with people.

[taurad]

Dan burisch won me initially with his whistleblowing stories...he lost me even faster while playing innocently ignorant about malevolent/evil vaccination programs in place

I was very very unhappy with those two...acting up as they had never heard such word before!!!

Pffft

Maybe it's for the best...could have still been wasting more time on them!!!

[Eyes2theSkies]

It is really interesting to read what everyone things about Dan. Seems like everyone has the right idea, here, as far as we take the information given to us. The problem becomes that we are trying to get people in the general population to pay attention to all this information but, the issues with the information are almost too much for the average person to wade through. I think it is hard for the majority of the population to understand (as we do) that in many cases of first person knowledge of these black projects, the witnesses still only know what they HAVE to know so, they are not told everything. In fact, as Richard Hoaland likes to remind us, "the lie is different at every level" therefore as you listen to these whistle blowers and eyewitnesses, you have to understand that and take it into account with regard to what the person is saying. For instance with Dr.Dan, it seems you can be confident of what he says about the biology of the J Rod because that is his specialty and what he had the most direct experience with. That doesn't mean you have to throw out all of his testimony but, know that there is more going on around that whole situation than what he has been allowed to learn.

For a year or two, I had hoped that Dan was going to be the one who was going to get real credible coverage in the mass media because of his education, speaking ability and experiences. Over time, though, it has become clear that no one person is going to be able to convince the whole world that there are beings here from off world. It is going to take a great effort and a lot of cooperation to really get the word out in such away that the public can accept this reality, digest it and let it change how they see themselves and the rest of the universe. All the pieces are here, they just all need to cooperate to make this happen and it would be [B]the people's disclosure [B] not one based upon what the government is willing to admitt.

In my mind it seems like it would take Dr.Dan, the Disclosure Project, Projects Camelot and Avalon, Coast to Coast, Unknown Country, Enterprise Mission, Earthfiles and all of thier associates, witnesses and supporters to get together to produce a true and honest disclosure video for public mass consumption. If Burisch and Greer would get rid of their limiting statements and beliefs namely - Burisch- that time travelers and one extradimensional type of being are the only visitors and Greer- that all aliens are peaceful and have our best interest at heart and that all grey beings are some form of mechanical or engineered life forms. The idea would be to use non limiting terminology, expose people to many different possibilities (although for the time being I would omit references to channeled information because most people in the general public think that is 1800s hockus pokus), verified photos (such as McMinnville, OR photo) and some of the more impressive and (some) verified videos (like the 2011 Jerusalem video), NASA photos and video, as much detailed testimony as possible, information on all the landing trace cases, pilot cases, combined radar and visual sightings as well as using acceptable music. These are rare but, the closest so far are "Out of the Blue" and "The Gretest Story Ever Denied" but, these still left a lot of solid information out. BTW I applaud the History Channel for changing from being biased against UFOs and aliens being real to more honestly exploring the evidence with shows like "Ancient Aliens". Now if more of the mass media would go the same way, we could really begin to focus on useful mass contact and awareness evolution.

Great ideas, everyone! Thanks for some interesting perspectives on the whole Dan Burisch issue! Best wishes to all! :)

[Forevernyt]

Dan never said that the future lineage humans and the one extra-dimensional race were the "only" ones in existence. He said they were the "only" ones that he had direct knowledge of, he wasn't denying the idea that there could be more. He just had no experience with other races.

Just to clarify.

[Mandala]

Dan was the first person I heard speak about Time lines and variants. Supposedly, we are on an unknown time line where yellow book has not been used to see possible futures.

[Eyes2theSkies]

Dan never said that the future lineage humans and the one extra-dimensional race were the "only" ones in existence. He said they were the "only" ones that he had direct knowledge of, he wasn't denying the idea that there could be more. He just had no experience with other races.

Just to clarify.

Rght, I've heard him say that as well, Forevernyt, but, in Zurich I thought he came off being a little more adamant that he didn't think there was anything else. Yes, he still leaves the door open to other possibilities and that's good! Yet, he remains steadfast in his thinking that there isn't any truth to the Serpo story. Other folks have said that the Serpo story was fake but, that we did have a limited exchange with ETs, which involved our people spending some time on another planet. While we are on this subject, I noticed that in the Zurich conference video Dan mentions our people taking nuclear weapons with them! I've read the UFO magazine story on Serpo and a few others on the internet and I never ran across anything that mentions nuclear weapons being taken so, where did that come from? Just asking. Thanks for making sure we keep things clear. All the best. Eyes

[Redtailhawk]

anyone else notice the video has been disabled?

[Sloppyjoe]

anyone else notice the video has been disabled?

Yep, but you can watch it on livevideo.com

[davyj0nes]

you know, hows this for synchronicity. just last nite i had stumbled on a webpage about dan burish and his breakup with project camelot/avalon. i couldn't understand it had to do with something about the 'golden thread' forum, and how that name was being internet poached??? i dunno. here is a link to website if anyone wants to take a look, and maybe they can explain it to me.
http://www.danburisch.info (http://www.danburisch.info/updates/update_intro.html)