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Bill Ryan
18th June 2011, 19:54
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Most readers will know that Gaia is most often associated with the term coined by the ecologist James Lovelock to describe the coherent, complex, balanced, living entity of Planet Earth in all its natural richness.

I (Bill) had always taken this as a metaphor – until I met Inelia. And so I tell this little story which follows against myself. To Inelia, it was self-evident that Gaia was a magnificent, fully sentient, godlike being. And when talking about this with me, she did what she often does when words are inadequate: she invited me to take her hands while she gave me a download of direct perception.

This she did: and I immediately perceived Gaia, a huge, eon-ancient entity that is our planet and all her multitudinous natural habitats. It was enormous, and strong, and solid, and eternal. I could feel her power. It was something literally awesome. I shall never forget that moment of first encounter. No doubt exists for me now about Gaia’s conscious reality.


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Gaia talks to Inelia all the time. And last month, when in Switzerland, I was inspired to ask for a direct communication. Staying for weeks in a small hotel room waiting for my US visa to be issued, I decided to take an afternoon out to climb a mountain.

I used to climb a lot of mountains, but this time I took the mountain railway to the summit. I’d been cooped up for weeks, and I expanded my awareness in gratitude and appreciation at the marvelous natural environment of rocks, trees and alpine meadows which we were passing through on the train. I am a mountain man to my roots, and I deeply love this kind of terrain.

Near the summit, the mist swirled around me as I climbed the rocks to the very top. And suddenly, feeling connected with Gaia, I had a wild thought. I said to myself, as if in prayer: “Gaia, if you can hear me, show me a Brocken Specter.”

Now, a Brocken Specter is a spectacular natural phenomenon which requires a precisely coordinated combination of sun, clouds, atmospherics and moisture. It consists of a huge shadow of oneself projected on the clouds below, surrounded by a rainbow halo. They’re very rare: in all my time in the mountains, years and countless expeditions all over the world, I have seen only a handful of Brocken Specters.

And suddenly, within maybe a minute and a half, one suddenly appeared. There it was. I spent half an hour filming it, in various stages of awe and disbelief. I was staggered. As in the movie Avatar, I found myself thinking: “Eywa has heard me.”


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That was over a month ago, in Europe. And now, we cut to today, in Sacramento, California. I had not seen Inelia for a couple of days, and she came round to see me towards the end of a very busy afternoon. It was wonderful to see her, as always. And as I gave her a hug, she collapsed in tears in my arms.

I looked at her, and held her hands, not knowing what was the matter.

She looked back at me, eyes brimming. “I can hear the cry”, she said. “It’s getting louder. I can’t bear it. It’s overwhelming.”

I looked at her intently, realizing. “The cry of the collective, and Gaia”, she said. “All the people, animals, all the plants, all the trees. There’s so much pain, so much suffering, so much violence. I feel it all. I hear it all. Every minute of every day. It never stops. I can’t stand it. And it’s getting louder all the time.”

She looked at me, asking me to understand. And I did. Like many humans, I’m a hypocrite: that means that I compartmentalize my experience for convenience. I wear a leather hat, and eat as much meat as I can. But I cannot bring myself to kill even a mosquito. I genuinely regard all living things as sacred. I have a dictum that I must never destroy anything I can’t create - which is why I save mosquitoes. Yet I deny my participation as a cavalier consumer.

Meanwhile, Inelia was directly experiencing the pain of Gaia. Through tears of compassion, she talked of the blind unawareness of the men in the slaughterhouses, the chemical farmers, the factory fishermen, the destroyers of the rainforests, the creators of wars. Those men and women who torture and kill millions of people, animals and trees every day. Those that think animals and trees don’t feel pain, fear, and terror, or relish the thought of inflicting these on the vulnerable. Those who deliver psychic and physical attacks to others.

Deeply moved, and in response, I read to her the opening paragraph of Thom Hartmann’s masterwork, The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight: (http://www.amazon.com/Last-Hours-Ancient-Sunlight-Revised/dp/1400051576)



In the 24 hours since this time yesterday, over 200,000 acres of rainforest have been destroyed in our world. Fully 13 million tons of toxic chemicals have been released into our environment. Over 45,000 people have died of starvation, 38,000 of them children. And more than 130 plant or animal species have been driven to extinction by the actions of humans. (The last time there was such a rapid loss of species was when the dinosaurs vanished.) And all this just since yesterday.
I was brought up in Africa. I’ve spent my life exploring wild places. Inelia has deep connections with sacred land in her native Chile, and a few years ago was brave enough to sail round Cape Horn in a small boat. When she was a little girl, she would pick hummingbirds off the branches of trees, and they would let her hold them in her tiny hands. They knew who she was; and they knew that they would not be harmed.


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Still through her tears of Gaia’s suffering, Inelia told me a story about violence and anger. Years ago, she had a German Shepherd, which had caught its paw in a metal gate. The dog was beside itself with anger and pain. Its head whipped backwards and forwards, snapping at anyone who tried to get near as it struggled to free itself.

Inelia walked up to it and held it firmly, but to get to its paw she had to put her arm between its jaws and the gate. In its pain it sank its teeth into her arm – which Inelia permitted it to do. Then after the paw was free, Inelia held the dog’s jaws tight, as it continued trying to bite. She held it against the ground firmly but gently. It calmed down - and she was able to release it, knowing it would no longer bite those around him. The wound in her arm healed without scars.


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The moral of the story? Humans, too, lash out in anger and violence, because they are in great pain and fear. “I’d like to hold them all in my arms”, said Inelia. “All of them. I’d like to show them that they are loved, and that they are safe. All the murderers, all the rapists, all the butchers of the seals, whales and dolphins, all the bloodthirsty workers in the abattoirs, the creators of wars.”

I listened to Inelia stating clearly through her tears that all violent men needed was love, safety and compassion. I suggested, attempting to reassure, that what she stated so eloquently in her video interview was sufficient:



“I only have one job. And that’s to raise the vibrational level of the planet, including the human collective, which is part of the planet, to a critical point that will allow a transition into the new paradigm, a new level of awareness for everything. For the planet and every being in it. Every rock, every insect, every person. And that’s my only job. And I will do anything to achieve that.”
Meaning: that if we raise the level of awareness of what Inelia calls the ‘collective’ – the group-mind and collective consciousness of the human race – then the murderers, rapists, polluters and destroyers will all be dragged along in the same collective direction – they HAVE to swim in the same rushing, accelerating river as the rest of us. In that way we are all connected… and with some of us leading the way, the rest will follow: even those humans with the morals and awareness of crocodiles.

But to Inelia, this was not enough. How to maximize the effect? How to reach those unreachable people? How to halt the pain and damage as soon as possible? How to educate the uneducable? How to release THEIR paw from the metal gate? Lovingly stop THEM from biting, and removing all gates where their paws might get caught?

Who will read these words we’re writing here? Not the killers and destroyers. We’re surely preaching to the converted: having read thus far, you’re almost certain to be in strong agreement.

My own answer is as follows.

Rupert Sheldrake brought us the concept of Morphic Fields and Morphic Resonance. Lynne McTaggart described ‘The Field’ in her best-selling book of the same name. We have an intuitive understanding of the Hundred Monkey syndrome, and of Tipping Points in general.

My personal strong feeling is we have to assume that, like blowing up an airbed (gradually, with an inefficient handpump), some corners of the mattress will inflate before others. When doing this, it almost always seems that nothing is ever going to happen – until a tipping point is reached and the rapidly inflating mattress all suddenly picks up and takes the desired shape as if by magic.

I think we’re in that kind of position now. The mattress doesn’t yet look like a mattress, and it seems as if it’s never going to inflate. We might think it looks hopeless. But soon – I do believe – things may start to feel different.

I want to say a word about ‘Ascension’ – and how the word is often misunderstood and misapplied. Some people really do think that they will literally ‘ascend’ out of here – as in some kind of ‘beam-me-up’ ‘rapture’ or rescue, possibly at the hands of helpful ETs or angelic beings.

In my strong view, this is escapist wishful thinking. Any kind of get-me-outta-here-Scotty mindset is actually failing to take responsibility – certainly for those of us who have been here many lifetimes and who have in one way or another contributed to the mess we’re in. Many of us reading this have been here on Planet Earth for quite a while – and we have to face what we have done: we have to square up to what we’ve permitted to occur in our name.

If we’re here to fix all this – which it’s very clear to me that we are – then we HAVE TO face what we’ve done. There’s no easy escape, and certainly no rescue. Rather, there’s a massive clean-up job waiting for people, tools, resources and organization to get started on… together.


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It may take several generations. Maybe many generations. But it’s do-able. Not just to repair the damage, but to educate the human race in understanding finally that we must live in balance and harmony with Gaia – or else we merely imperil ourselves. (Gaia will always be all right. She’s been around for several billion years, and is probably only half way through her lifespan as the Guardian-Goddess of this exquisitely beautiful planet.)

But there’s the real risk – for us, not for her – that if we do not learn the lessons that are for the taking, right here in front of our noses (and our wallets) - we may flunk the class and be destroyed. It could all happen terribly easily. And the choice is ours: collectively ours.

In my personal view, this is one of the key significances of the 2012 Tipping Point. 21 December 2012 is a distraction. The real significance of the year (certainly not one standalone day in that year) is that if we as the collective human race make the right choices, it will not be too late to re-create the balanced dynamic paradise that Planet Earth could be for all living things – and for mankind itself.

And if we make the wrong choices, our children may have a very rough time of it indeed. They would rightly blame their parents for not doing what they could when they had all the information available to them.

So guess what: it’s all about Free Will. Should we be surprised that the equation distills down to this again?


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Here are Inelia’s own words in conclusion:

It is not about who’s to blame. The solution has to be inclusive. Yes, we take responsibility in minimizing the pain and suffering of others through our actions. We eat meat from small farms, organic producers who love their animals. Yes, we buy furniture from renewable sources of wood, clothes from factories which don’t exploit people. But what of the perpetrators of fear and pain? We might hold them in our field of light, and allow Gaia to do her work. As a ‘singularity’ – I am but one person. But WE are many.

If we dedicate 10 minutes a day to holding these people in our collective light, it can make a huge shift for them and us. After the 10 minutes, let us focus on the compassion and love of the millions of lightworkers and lightwarriors around the planet, our brethren, so that our collective power increases -- making each one of us more able to accomplish our collective work.

I also feel the love, light and compassion of billions of people around the world. All those parents who hold their new born baby in wonderment and deep love, all those who behold our Mother Earth in awe as they sense Her power and compassion. I also feel millions of lightworkers and lightwarriors diligently doing daily acts of selfless love and compassion to bring light to others and the planet.

For every murderer there are 10 healers, for every abuser of animals, there are a thousand who hold animals in respect and equality. For every creator of war, there are millions of us who do not agree with that particular game.

If I didn't feel the LIGHT I would not be alive today. Mother Earth made the call for assistance, and we, all of us, are the answer to that call.


Bill and Inelia
17-18 June 2011


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meeradas
18th June 2011, 20:19
Thanks for the reminder.
Most difficult thing for me is lay down the shotgun, and forgive.
Thanks for the reminder to lay it down, and do the opposite of what i'd like to do.

ulli
18th June 2011, 20:22
Thank you both for the inspiration. I'm glad you are well and want to assure you that you are not alone in your quest.

Carmen
18th June 2011, 20:22
Thank you Bill. The words and sentiments you have written here and Inelia's words have moved me to tears. Lately I too have felt the pain of this earth and of its people animals, even the minerals, the micro-organisms. I can barely read what is happening now on this our beloved earth, the pain is so great. I think your advice is good and I will do this that you suggest. Something is shifting, has to shift and will shift if all of us focus our love.

Jayke
18th June 2011, 20:38
What a great synchronicity, I was just reading the booklet Gaea speaks by Don Tolman...the first line reads


There are women and men today trying to 'tip the balance' in reaching the critical mass needed to usher in, on a global scale, the feminine values of compassion, connectedness, intuition, nurturing and stewardship of the earth and all who live here

he also mentions how Gaea was originally spelt with an E...since the patriarch took over they changed the E to an i since the letter i is symbolic of the ejaculating phallus.

Don Tolman is one of the brightest, most inspirational teachers on the planet right now Bill, if you could get an interview with him i'm sure it'd be something special and help with the collective push of getting these feminine values re-established in the collective awareness.

Great thread, great topic...just what the world needs right now.

treeman
18th June 2011, 21:48
Wonderful words indeed.
I will pray for the perpetrator's and for me, as i too am not perfect.
I will ponder.....but like a UN peace keeper, overseeing the community,
as an observer while tied up in bureaucracy and policies (politics), while
some atrocities take place....'I just want to scream' and change for a new
paradigm of civil disobedience. Chain myself to the cutting of those forests
(The Amazon - destroyed in every breathe i take), I wish my dreams could be
as powerful as my actions to prevent the needless profits in my world.
I wish my 'dian'tan' (not sure of spelling-related to chinese belief/ force below the
belly button), could be a energy used for change....'I truely hope to see change' but
I have grave doubts.
In Spirit.

Belle
18th June 2011, 22:30
I live in a tiny house on a lake surrounded by trees. I'll never forget the Gulf oil spill. The trees let me know before the event hit the news...their branches and leaves were cast down as if in grief. I had never seen such a thing before and it broke my heart.

We are all connected. Pain is shared. Joy is shared. There are no secrets...for all is shared among all sentient life. Healing one makes healing all easier.

I join my heart with yours in love and peace for Mother Earth and all her children.

johnf
18th June 2011, 22:44
Thanks for this message. I have been experiencing a lot of extra pain and anger in the last few weeks, and I appreciate the reminder that those feelings are something that all sorts of livings things are feeling, and that part of it is probabably a distress call from others and from the planet as a whole.

Bhusunda
18th June 2011, 23:42
Indeed we have to take care to include everyone in our love and not to create more extreme opposites.
Only love can unite us and lead us forward.
Every accusation leads to separation, division and fight.

Thanks for sharing this Inelia and Bill!
I feel deeply with you.

Sync
18th June 2011, 23:51
Bill, thank you for the beautiful post and congratulations on re-connecting with your mother!

About 3 weeks ago, I also started feeling that something was up with the earth's energy. I started asking around, and many others who I know are sensing it.

It is pain.

This pain is stronger in different geographic areas that I frequent. At my house in the Santa Monica Mtns, the pain is subdued. At my place in Pasadena, it is overwhelming and nearly unbearable.

This pain has lessened in the last week.

The sentience of the earth is very real.

She is linked with the sentience of the sun... and she will use the sun's power if she has to cleanse herself of the atrocities of men.

I believe that in 2001, the largest solar flare on record contained her image; an archetype of fertility. If that flare had been directed at earth... we would not be talking about this right now.

http://nix.ksc.nasa.gov/info?id=GL-2002-001583&orgid=6

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Can you see her? She holds her arms above her head.

Here is another expression of this archetype.
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Ultimately, she is in control.

There are no viable rulers of the world.

Our collective will shall decide the fate of man.

We choose everyday. She feels everything.

It truly is up to us to take responsibility for our actions. I believe that this must go beyond well-wishing as it needs to include physical action.

I know we can do it.

motherlove
18th June 2011, 23:58
The most difficult part is the programming we have all endured since birth. Once you can see past the beliefs and memes the manifestations begin in small and subtle ways. I see my brothers and sisters all in different stages of awakening this is personal and perfect in the ways the creator brings that about but untimately it is a free will choice. I have wondered lately if we are moving through the fourth dimension at this time and maybe that is why it all seems so heavy. The emphasis being on moving through. In this dimentional world of opposites it does get painful and it is hard but we are truly up to the challenge of forgiveness and divine love everyone of us. When I allow the divine to look through my eyes everything changes including me. Best Wishes

Yoda
19th June 2011, 00:15
Bill and Inelia,
whenever you bare your souls like this ,in public, it's like a huge infusion of fresh energy. It brings everything into perspective, and reminds us all, that it's natural to feel, and we can share it with others.
Pierre
www.energy-oneness.com

nomadguy
19th June 2011, 00:18
"there’s a massive clean-up job waiting for people, tools, resources and organization to get started on… together."
Yes and this is the kind of picture I ~personally hold into the light ~for all to see (the big fiasco, our mess), thank you for these words. Every time I read Inelia's words I can hear her voice speaking them. and great photo, I hope I can snap one of those some day!
Namaste ~

amedeejp
19th June 2011, 00:18
I can't help but agree with Bill and Inelia's words. I have been living next to the huge scar in the Earth south of Tucson. It goes on for miles and miles. I didn't want to be here, but truly feel it is my duty to hold the space for this deep wounding Gaia's skin. Ten minutes a day is the least we can do, I believe it is the only way to make a difference.

AHO

pharoah21
19th June 2011, 00:39
I too have been experiencing all the pain and suffering in unison with Mother Gaia. To be honest, part of me hopes for major destruction in the coming months leading up to 12/21/2012. I want to see the evil people removed from this beautiful planet, I've come to a point where I have had to shut my eyes to avoid looking at the pain of my Mother Gaia.

I hope things will turn around very soon.

Wesly
19th June 2011, 00:42
The accented master that teaches me had me do a Spirit quest, I was very surprised when she answered.

aranuk
19th June 2011, 00:54
I haven't heard anything new on this thread that I do not already know. Nothing I haven't heard before on many a new agey site espousing love for the planet which they all have done for many years in the past. I pray myself every day for this planet and all the beings who live here. I always will and I have since I realized that this prayer has an incredible effect. However I expected to hear something, even some kind of murmur to say something on topic for one thing. I am unhappy about this.

Stan

Darla Ken Pearce
19th June 2011, 01:09
As long as beings on Gaia are being killed, slaughtered, worn and eaten, there will be no peace here. Many are leaving and it's a good thing, so that Gaia may recover and go forth without their heavy darkness and their weight upon her body, spirit, and soul and so she may enter into a New Golden Age in another dimension being created now.

Until we can stop mouthing the words and learn to actually SING in harmony, the crying on Gaia will continue.

There is another choice and it's to end all suffering now. When I hear Gaia cry, I remember that this is also true and I consciously choose this other better and kinder way. And so can you...


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thunder24
19th June 2011, 02:22
Thankyou Bill and Inelia for sharing this.

Inelia,
Please share with us your view on "lightworker", "darkworker", and "jokers". Thankyou

peace

Patrikas
19th June 2011, 02:48
Wonderfull post bill , after reading it i was inspired to ask my wife if i could post something she wrote a little while ago i feel it has relevence here:


May the Creator intervene with the dance of peace of our Grandmothers in unity with our Grandfathers strength. May we all stand with our Tree brothers while the sacred sister wind encompasses us with the breath of the Great Spirit.

May the seven bundles of the sacred pipe of white buffalo calf woman be once again joined in prayer and song to fill our hearts in all sacred directions with the true purpose of our beings in this sacred hoop of life.

In Oneness may we all replace our original stones in the medicine wheel of the Great Mystery. As we raise our eyes to Grandfather Sun and Grandmother Moon may we remember the WAY! and that we are still connected to our Sacred Mother Earth.

As she has always done and continues to be the heartbeat within us joining our soul into our physical journey.
Let us in Oneness once again know the truth of our own heart beat and the one beside us and all those that also came before us.

As the north star glistens in the darkness of night it shows us the greatness of the Thunder Beings and the unending creation energy for those who choose to see it and hear it and share it and be it and allow it to BE.

In my humble opinion ownership is not of a value that is placed by any mans decision of worth. Being connected in all ways is who we are - that is Creators way. Try to also remember Mother Earth is also alive and she is dancing in her journey with Creator –

as she passes beside you embrace her with heart and soul and dance with her, love with her, learn with her,be guided by her, open to her and share this with all in your family circles and your place upon her she will share with you.

As we are born it is a message that we are more than the dust upon her beauty - as we walk many things are brought forward for us to know and share, dream and do- and in humbleness we once again travel back through the mere dust back to our Loving Creator. I may not see you ever - yet I know you - as you all know me-as all knows each in unity of the Great Spirit. And I do pray for ALL as I have been shown since birth - as I do see beyond the form of this short earth walk.

Know we walk together - one step or two does not matter the time, what matters is the unity of all of our steps with Mother earth and her ability to lead us if we take but a moment to feel what she is sharing so we can all dance in her wisdom. As the time of the sacred bundles is upon us - May Creator Bless ALL with the KNOWING and may JUSTICE of HIS Will be done. And may we ALL see ourselves and each other as Creator does.

Good Sunshine Woman

Stay Well

fifi
19th June 2011, 03:05
If we dedicate 10 minutes a day to holding these people in our collective light, it can make a huge shift for them and us. After the 10 minutes, let us focus on the compassion and love of the millions of lightworkers and lightwarriors around the planet, our brethren, so that our collective power increases -- making each one of us more able to accomplish our collective work.

Thank you, Bill and Inelia, for giving us guidance on what we can do to help. Your story is very inspiring, and your guide and Inelia's are very much appreciated.

Steven
19th June 2011, 03:17
It was an awesome post Bill. It was from your hearts reaching my heart. In the cries she hears, she must hear mine among them too. Things have to change.

Namaste, Steven

TWINCANS
19th June 2011, 03:31
I'm glad that Inelia was able to bring you into alignment with Gaia so you were able to connect with her greatness, and her current torment. This bodes well for the challenge that our current round of tomorrows will bring.

Nani
19th June 2011, 03:39
Bill thank you very much fot this post, and thanks to God that is sending people like Inelia to teach us such things, I am so very glad you found her, and I think this is going to be a friendship for life.
God bless you both.

Nani

mosquito
19th June 2011, 03:39
Beautiful, thank you.
And thanks for giving me the name (broken spectre) of that amazing phenomenon I was once privileged to witness on the summit of North hill in Great Malvern.

When I first visited the Amazon rainforest, the strongest feeling (among many) I had was that there is absolutely no way humanity will destroy either the rainforests or Mother Earth, we will either destroy ourselves or be destroyed. Right now I don't hold out a great deal of hope, but I'm willing to do my best, and spend time each day on focussing intent on tipping the balance.

Philip

Telepathic Intuitive
19th June 2011, 03:42
Many thanks... For many tears...

Allow the flow to flow and trust your heart to know.

Thank you Bill and Inelia

DudeAbides
19th June 2011, 03:58
Thank you Bill & Inelia,
Your words rang true to me and brought tears to my eyes and soul. We all get side tracked with all the info on various Forums and websites out there, opening various windows on our computers and exploring more and more data. You have put me back on track, I've adjusted focus. 10 mins a day of positive affirmation to all sentient beings is a small sacrifice.

Peace

Unified Serenity
19th June 2011, 04:01
Trust your heart, not your eyes in this dark night. I am reminded of a captain sailing in a storm who ties himself to the wheel as the wind and water beat upon him, he stays the course through the storm because he is the captain of his ship. We are all captains of our path our ship is our life here. No matter the wind or rain, cries of woe from those who have not readied themselves, never turn away. We shall finish this voyage and I firmly believe find ourselves in a new day, a new world that is wholly more balanced and peaceful and eventually we will no longer speak of the storm.

hholder
19th June 2011, 04:04
Thank you Bil for a wonderful post, and Inelia for reminding me of the time on my way to work several years ago. There was a full log truck next to me at the red light. I looked at the logs and the sadness I felt for them was very deep within me. They understood how I felt, yet they also understood their fate.

Roger
19th June 2011, 04:29
Thank you Bill and Inelia for the tremendous work and compassion. I've been a lightworker now for just over a year and WOW things are not as they once were. I've always had interesting things occur to me, but now that I am able to realize that I can feel the energies of trees, plants, animals and people, i am beginning to feel differently about everything. The two trees in front of my house have an amazing energy and calm me. Some people also have amazingly wonderful energies (rare it seems). Then there are those people who look absolutely normal, and then I 'feel' their energy - and i can't move away fast enough. I wish there was a book for this - maybe there is? Anyhow, I believe Gaia is going to be okay - if we just listen.

joelmags
19th June 2011, 05:09
Gaea smiles here in our little corner of this world. We do all we can for her. She does a lot more for us and the people "awake" enough or "aware" enough to take notice of what we really do.

We declare ourselves to the many who ask.

We hold our space. We have defended it for so long.

And remain in joyful anticipation.

You are so right Bill. Cheers!

Erik_dc
19th June 2011, 06:40
Thanks a lot Bill and Inelia

jcocks
19th June 2011, 07:21
Hi Bill..

I loved your post in general, it resonated with me a lot. But I've got to admit that I did take some offense to the comment about "bloodthirsty" abbotoir workers. Having worked in abs myself, I have to say that's a bit of an over-generalisation. The majority of people who work in those places don't do it because they enjoy it, they work there because it's the only work the can get. Many times the workers get treated just as badly as the animals they're killing. The vast majority of human beings are not bloodthirsty killers, and I have actually started thinking that those who have become killers, rapists (and those who relish their jobs in the slaughterhouses), etc, have somehow had their humanity removed from them. I fail to understand how a human being can do such things to other living beings. The idea that they have had their humanity removed is the only one that I can align with. Which of course means that their humanity can be restored - it may be difficult, but it can be done.

And, as for the "tipping point" - I feel we are almost there. It's been a hard slog up until now, but in some ways it's going to become easier (and yet in others it will become so much harder). My honest belief is that there are things that will happen in the very near future that will be what finally "tips the scales", and enough people will sit up, take notice of what is going on around them, and generally expand their awareness that the scales will be tipped. This will start a chain reaction that will sweep the planet and have a snowball effect. It's a parabolic curve - the more people that have that flame of enlightenment lit within them, the more that will follow.

If you can't imagine how this will happen, think back to, say, the recent earthquake in new zealand, how everyone helps each-other out in times of crisis. Now imagine this on a GLOBAL scale. That's it - that's all it takes. The snowball effect will take hold once enough people are in the same mindset...

We cannot heal this earth with the tools we currently have available - well, we can, but it will take centuries... We need help. I believe that help is close at hand. Through our spiritual powers that are becoming awakened as time goes on, the energies that are becoming available to this planet as we go through the changes that are currently occurring, and new technologies that will be made available to us in the near future, we will do it. And, like the awakening, it's a parabolic curve - I believe that, while the process is slow and arduous at the moment, the scales will once again tip (through a series of events which are yet to occur), and it will rapidly gain momentum.

I could be wrong, but I don't believe so. The time is close at hand, and we really need to do everything we can to prepare ourselves NOW. This will be the hardest time mankind has been through in many decades- possibly in its' entire history - but yet we will have more help available than we ever imagined possible. It will be an exciting time for all, but it will require preparation. We each have to find our pillar of strength and start cultivating it - this will be our strength to turn to for comfort and support in the coming times. This could be your spirituality, your close friends and loved ones. It doesn't matter - just make sure its' there and it's strong. We'll be needing those pillars very soon....

Cjay
19th June 2011, 07:28
Bill, you are a great thinker, communicator and actioner (did I just make up that word?). Thank you.
Inelia, ditto. Thank you too.

After 50 years of searching, my mission and purpose suddenly became crystal clear just 8 days ago. I attribute that "aha" moment to this forum. Since then I have finally watched Bill's interview with Inelia. All doubt regarding what I am here to do is now gone.

In the last year, I have been called a healer but I am not aware of having healed anyone or anything. I have been called a prophet but I shied away from that thinking, "what do I know that I could teach people?". I have been called a guardian but "of what?", I wondered. I have been called an artist but I haven't graduated past drawing stick figures. I have been called a visionary but I had no focus and all I saw was chaos. I have been called a rebel because I don't always play by the rules set by others. I have been called an idiot because, well, sometimes I behave like one ane because a lot of people just don't understand me. Of course, that goes both ways, so I am very rarely offended by the criticism. As of 8 days ago, the reason I have been called all those things became perfectly clear.

As of 8 days ago, I know WHAT I am here to do. I acknowledge, I don't yet know all of the HOW I will do it but every day, pieces of the puzzle are falling into place. Mostly when I talk about it, people tell me lots of reasons why it can't be done. That's ok. I am not deterred. I love seemingly impossible challenges. Tell me it can't be done and I will prove you wrong.

Thank you Gaia for your patience. I know I have been in denial and procrastinating and even hiding at times. Thank you also to the Avalon family for you have all contributed to opening each other's eyes, minds and hearts. I have a strong feeling the tipping point is almost here.

Thank you again, Bill and Inelia. You are truly inspirational.

Tony
19th June 2011, 07:36
Dear Bill and Inelia,

It is wonderful that you have found joy in the being of Earth. It also has brought joy to others,
so that too is wonderful. If you are right, then I too am happy. So thank you!

I just have a question about the permanency of this joy. The Earth and all the creatures living
on it are as you say truly an amazing. The number of beings is immeasurable.

In your video you talk of a huge geo-physical event coming the earth's way.
We expect the earth to react. This reaction will kill a very high percentage of life on earth.
You are saying this geo-physical act will devastate this planet.

Humans- even well meaning ones, due to ignorance, have always caused suffering.
Every-thing is the result of cause and effect = karma. Our true nature is beyond this
karma but at the moment it is covered in the sticky stuff, both good and bad.

Angry emotions, weeping emotions do not help, they are only temporary events.
When realising our true nature and the true nature of the emotions, wisdom is found.
When wisdom is realised, karma can begin to be exhausted.
That is why we are here. Being awake and free of karma = Bud-dha.

There is a much of work to be done, constantly. Not just ten minutes a day.

Truly, love to you all,

Tony

jcocks
19th June 2011, 07:52
Dear Bill and Inelia,

In your video you talk of a huge geo-physical event coming the earth's way.
We expect the earth to react. This reaction will kill a very high percentage of life on earth.
You are saying this geo-physical act will devastate this planet.



I disagree. The mass-destruction timeline was averted a while back. I think you will be pleasantly surprised how few people will die (compared to what might have occurred). But don't think it's going to be easy - it'll be anything but.

Part of the trick of survival will be accepting the help that is made available - having the TRUST to accept help from sources we may not naturally be inlined to accept help from.

Cultivating trust in our soicety is a large piece of the puzzle of building a higher-order society on this planet, as it is trust that is one of those things most lacking at this time...

Tigressa
19th June 2011, 07:59
Thank you for posting this. Sometimes I wonder if I am going a little nutty. The urgency I feel in my meditations to get EVOLVING, the stress at seemingly...nothing in my daily life is intense. I can hear the cries constantly also. Since I had children I am drowning in those cries every day. At first I thought I had post natal depression. Then I realised I could hear all the children suffering in the world. I am actually crying as I type this.

I will put more effort into my meditation. Thank you for reminding me how I should be helping sweet Gaia better Inelia. Xx.

Ria
19th June 2011, 08:03
This is a BRILLIANT thread.
I will be emailing to whom I can
Bless you all.

DNA
19th June 2011, 08:05
A wonderfull post, and I hear what your saying about the earth, the animals and less fortunate people.

But doesn't this all point in a strange way to a necessary cleansing of sorts?
I share in Bill's love of life and nature. I also share his self admitted particiapation in the consumer culture.
I drive a car, I burn gasoliine, I eat meat.
.
In my opinion, particiapation in consumer culture, even if you recycle and drive a hybrid is still using up the planet.
It is this, boil it down to brass tacks thinking, that leads me to think that maybe the PTB who are looking to reduce the population,,,,,,,,,,,,,,might be right.
.
It's a difficult pill to swallow, but if the choice is no wild forests, wild animals, sealife and no humans left in one hundred years or,,,a necessary cleansing for the posturity of all human kind isn't the latter the better of the two choices.
I'm not one of those with a ticket to an underground bunker, so I'm going to have my ball in the lottery just like everyone else.
.
Everyone thinks the Denver airport mural has an evil portend. And to some extent this is true, but the message to me is loud and clear.
The world is dying. The animals are dying. The trees are dying.
We need to bring things under control, so that the world can achieve equilibrium through maintaining a carrying capacity.

ktlight
19th June 2011, 08:08
Bill and Inelia
I am truly humbled by the existence of your communication here. I truly am.

I am wondering if we all spent the 10 minutes contemplation as one collective would be more powerful than each of us doing it in our own time, thus 'dribbling' the energy. If so, could we agree an hour when to focus on this activity?

jcocks
19th June 2011, 08:25
Actually, I would suggest something radically different.... I would suggest we spend 10 minutes in PRAYER for mother Earth - send our wishes for her and her people out into the infinite so that all who can hear the call WILL hear the call. Let us be one deafening voice so that none of our brothers and sisters out there can be in any doubt that we are HERE and we are READY to fulfill our purpose. Let them know that their help is welcome, and let TPTB know that their time in their reigns is at an END... They can either approach us as EQUALS and WORK WITH US TO FIX THIS PLANET, or they can LEAVE freely and NEVER RETURN. Most of them are decent human beings behind the facades they put up - we just need to let them know that the offer is being made by the new stewards of the earth and they are free to make the right choice for themselves with no judgement attached, just LOVE. Our numbers may be small now, but they will swell more rapidly than anyone can imagine , and soon...

grapevine
19th June 2011, 08:39
Patrikas and jcocks and all who have posted under this wonderful thread .... such beautiful and inspiring words. Thank you so much ....

Linda xx

Feren
19th June 2011, 08:52
Thank you Bill and Inelia. To you and to other members reading this thread, I'd like to share my point of view about the pain human beings are causing to Gaia.
As I undertand, not only from waht Bill and Inelia says but also from my personal experience, vegetables and mushrooms feel pain, as well as cows, sheeps and pigs. The human being and every predator on the planet needs to kill in order to survive. Eating vegetables is also killing. What we need to do is raise our vibration in order to learn how to live without killing and without causing harm to other living creatures, be they vegetables, mushrooms or animals. I believe this can be done and has been done by some people. We have to become autotrophs. I really believe this. It may take many lives, but it is doable. Maybe in my next incarnation I will be seeing this, or experiencing it myself.
It's evolution baby!

Tony
19th June 2011, 08:53
At the last retreat I attended, someone mentioned the practice of Tonglen. This is the practice of giving and receiving. You take on the suffering and send out happiness. The teacher said,”That is all very well, as long as you are not doing it to make you feel good.”

Wanting to feel good, is like stroking the ego!

This morning during meditation, a bird outside my window sang the first three notes of 'The A-team' theme tune. Was this significant, was this synchronicity? No, it just did it. Reading something into it, is just be a concept in my mind.

Feeling good, is good, but is we try to hold on to that, we will suffer. Being happy for no reason is freedom, as it is unconditional. It is not relying on a condition for this happiness to occur.

When you leave the body, and the earth, what are you going to rely on?

Tony

Huma
19th June 2011, 08:54
I hope Bill and Inelia give this a listen, I think you both might find it healing...I share it with you and others with the hope of contributing to that in some small way.

I'll just share this with those of you who might want to take a quiet moment in there day to reflect on these things with a piece of music I think is fitting to the topic. It has helped me in times past, the title of the song is fitting as well, literally and I would say symbolically. It's called "Full Circle" by Loreena Mckennitt, Enjoy :).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k298Dsketso

Tarka the Duck
19th June 2011, 09:03
Is it just me who finds all this shockingly childish and sentimental?

No doubt I shall receive a shower of abuse for saying this... ;)

Lots of love
Tarka

Tony
19th June 2011, 09:23
Our very physical existence is a killing field.
My whole body is riddled with microbes
coming and going, being born and dying.

There major battles going on between
foreign bodies and my immune system.
I wish them all well, but there is nothing
I can do about it.

Not one of them worship me!

Do I mind? Not in the least, each have
their own story to face. Each is evolving,
in its own way. Even the bad guys.

Having a good prayer or wish, may help,
but each one of us is responsible for our
own development. When this is achieved
then one can help others.

Teakai
19th June 2011, 09:50
Is it just me who finds all this shockingly childish and sentimental?

No doubt I shall receive a shower of abuse for saying this... ;)

Lots of love
Tarka

No.
No showers of abuse for Tarka the duck - just love. Love for Tarka the duck.
Feeeeeel the love Tarka, feeeeeel the love - and mend thy ways.

;)

Jayke
19th June 2011, 11:52
Some wisdom from our ancestors:

The Ten Native Indian Commandments

Remain close to the Great Spirit.
Show great respect for your fellow beings.
Give assistance and kindness wherever needed.
Be truthful and honest at all times.
Do what you know to be right.
Look after the well being of mind and body.
Treat the earth and all that dwell there on with respect.
Take full responsibility for your actions.
Dedicate a share of your efforts to the greater good.
Work together for the benefit of all man kind

http://www.birdclan.org/images/rainbow.jpg

Tarka the Duck
19th June 2011, 13:19
Is it just me who finds all this shockingly childish and sentimental?

No doubt I shall receive a shower of abuse for saying this... ;)

Lots of love
Tarka

No.
No showers of abuse for Tarka the duck - just love. Love for Tarka the duck.
Feeeeeel the love Tarka, feeeeeel the love - and mend thy ways.

;)

Dear Teakai

I feel it! Ooooo, I feel it! Much appreciated and welcomed...but if you mean by "mend thy ways" that I should go against a sincere and heartfelt instinct that something is false and contrived, then I am afraid I cannot oblige.

Unless, of course, there is only one belief system permitted on this forum, in which case, I shall bow out gracefully...

Much love - and respect

Tarka

Dennis Leahy
19th June 2011, 13:47
...Unless, of course, there is only one belief system permitted on this forum, in which case, I shall bow out gracefully...

Much love - and respect

Tarka

Tarka, no showers of abuse for you, and yes, you get to believe your own beliefs, think your own thoughts, and express your own feelings. Mods will step in if dissenting opinions become trollish behavior, or if a post is a major thread derailment, the mods may move it to its own thread.

Dennis

Tony
19th June 2011, 13:52
We used to go to Boudhanath in Nepal, to study the Dharma. The place is full of serious practitioners. We even enrolled on the 4 year Shedra course at the monastery Ka-nying Shedrub Ling, but found it too academic (it was for translators and archivists). Wonderful teachings, but our brains were rather small...

Still, one can be a practitioner without the academic side (though some grounding is needed).

The point I want to make - and this is a response, not a reaction, to the initial article on this thread – is that it is recognised that Nepal also entertains dharma tourists. There is nothing wrong with this. They get a little knowledge, call themselves buddhists, and take home an attitude, but they are not practitioners (yet).

I am being quite frank.

They all end up loving everything, and get quite emotional, especially about the poverty and suffering seen there. They become unstable, and carry the wounds of the world, because they are not seeing the bigger picture.

We all go through this process; it's all part of evolving. But to teach from this platform can lead others into a world of fantasy.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with loving the earth, feeling nature, empathising with all creatures...that's easy to do! But the bigger picture is including ALL creatures. There can be no partially – although obviously some creatures are easier to love than others! They have a degree of compassion – but it is “their” compassion.

This is not being negative; it is just uncomfortable.

As an example. I went to the Florence Academy of Art to study classical drawing and painting.
On returning, it was very difficult to talk to artists back home as they were doing their thing. Although their thing may be interesting, most of the time many of them lacked technical capacity and their work was confused (though of course I never mentioned this). The modern world is about expressing yourself “as you are”, warts and all...and everyone is supposed to admire you! I think there is much further to go.

I believe there is a force in the world that creates confusion, and therefore suffering. This creates an unconscious domino effect of cosiness, which can control people nicely. This cosiness is created by a subtle fear, which forces people to conform, in order to feel they are part of a whole.

Everyone should have their say, as it is an essential part of breaking out of this decline, and finding our feet.

Believing only in a universal consciousness can negate personal responsibility.
There is no need for universal consciousness. Everyone keeps their individual consciousness. Otherwise, it would be quite boring...
Keep your freedom!

Learning is painful...but still we learn.

Tony

lunaflare
19th June 2011, 14:14
I was so quiet inside reading your post Bill- so many thoughts flashing. I too see my hypocritic ways. But awareness is good and I am inspired to take greater levels of responsibility.
I was also struck by our human instinct to share: our knowledge, our resources, our joy, our grief- much as Inelia came to you to share her pain burden and then create this post which helps further our own awakenings. Thank you.
For we are all in varying stages of expansion and of transformation, are we not?
From that place of inner stillness, my body lightened..I started breathing again... reading the words:

"For every murderer there are 10 healers, for every abuser of animals, there are a thousand who hold animals in respect and equality. For every creator of war, there are millions of us who do not agree with that particular game".

Wow. A grande reminder. Beautiful human spirit despite and in spite of powerful mind control and centuries of brutal social mores.
And yes, Gaea will survive to matter "what".

Thank you all so very much. Inspiring posts from members and deeply loving thoughts from Inelia and Bill.

By the way, I can see your hat in that Brocken Specter!

Mystique
19th June 2011, 14:15
Thank you for the reminder.

sheddie
19th June 2011, 14:28
Is it just me who finds all this shockingly childish and sentimental?

No doubt I shall receive a shower of abuse for saying this... ;)

Lots of love
Tarka

No.
No showers of abuse for Tarka the duck - just love. Love for Tarka the duck.
Feeeeeel the love Tarka, feeeeeel the love - and mend thy ways.

;)

Dear Teakai

I feel it! Ooooo, I feel it! Much appreciated and welcomed...but if you mean by "mend thy ways" that I should go against a sincere and heartfelt instinct that something is false and contrived, then I am afraid I cannot oblige.

Unless, of course, there is only one belief system permitted on this forum, in which case, I shall bow out gracefully...

Much love - and respect

Tarka

No abuse from me either Tarka I agree wholeheartedly

feel the love

x

ghostrider
19th June 2011, 14:52
Bill and Inelia,
whenever you bare your souls like this ,in public, it's like a huge infusion of fresh energy. It brings everything into perspective, and reminds us all, that it's natural to feel, and we can share it with others.
Pierre
www.energy-oneness.com

agreed, it's like being re-charged when going uphill, and instead of slowing, your amazed that the harder it gets the faster you go uphill and say, BRING IT ON. thanks Bill your an amazing soul.

Billy
19th June 2011, 14:53
----







The moral of the story? Humans, too, lash out in anger and violence, because they are in great pain and fear. “I’d like to hold them all in my arms”, said Inelia. “All of them. I’d like to show them that they are loved, and that they are safe. All the murderers, all the rapists, all the butchers of the seals, whales and dolphins, all the bloodthirsty workers in the abattoirs, the creators of wars.”

I listened to Inelia stating clearly through her tears that all violent men needed was love, safety and compassion. I suggested, attempting to reassure, that what she stated so eloquently in her video interview was sufficient:



“I only have one job. And that’s to raise the vibrational level of the planet, including the human collective, which is part of the planet, to a critical point that will allow a transition into the new paradigm, a new level of awareness for everything. For the planet and every being in it. Every rock, every insect, every person. And that’s my only job. And I will do anything to achieve that.”
Meaning: that if we raise the level of awareness of what Inelia calls the ‘collective’ – the group-mind and collective consciousness of the human race – then the murderers, rapists, polluters and destroyers will all be dragged along in the same collective direction – they HAVE to swim in the same rushing, accelerating river as the rest of us. In that way we are all connected… and with some of us leading the way, the rest will follow: even those humans with the morals and awareness of crocodiles.

But to Inelia, this was not enough. How to maximize the effect? How to reach those unreachable people? How to halt the pain and damage as soon as possible? How to educate the uneducable? How to release THEIR paw from the metal gate? Lovingly stop THEM from biting, and removing all gates where their paws might get caught?

Who will read these words we’re writing here? Not the killers and destroyers. We’re surely preaching to the converted: having read thus far, you’re almost certain to be in strong agreement.




If we’re here to fix all this – which it’s very clear to me that we are – then we HAVE TO face what we’ve done. There’s no easy escape, and certainly no rescue. Rather, there’s a massive clean-up job waiting for people, tools, resources and organization to get started on… together.


December 2012 is a distraction. The real significance of the year (certainly not one standalone day in that year) is that if we as the collective human race make the right choices, it will not be too late to re-create the balanced dynamic paradise that Planet Earth could be for all living things – and for mankind itself.




Here are Inelia’s own words in conclusion:



If we dedicate 10 minutes a day to holding these people in our collective light, it can make a huge shift for them and us. After the 10 minutes, let us focus on the compassion and love of the millions of lightworkers and lightwarriors around the planet, our brethren, so that our collective power increases -- making each one of us more able to accomplish our collective work.

I also feel the love, light and compassion of billions of people around the world. All those parents who hold their new born baby in wonderment and deep love, all those who behold our Mother Earth in awe as they sense Her power and compassion. I also feel millions of lightworkers and lightwarriors diligently doing daily acts of selfless love and compassion to bring light to others and the planet.



Bill and Inelia
17-18 June 2011


http://projectavalon.net/safe_in_our_hands.jpg


Nicely expressed Bill. And syncronizing yet again. I started a thread on June 13th http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?22732-WORLD-WIDE-JERUSALEM-HUG-3rd-July&p=246643#post246643 on how unity consciousness can raise the vibration of humanity but interestingly enough only one comment so far.

Hmmm I thought is this because most members here at Avalon are truth seekers
( If you read through the titles of most of the threads here and feel what vibration they express) rather than those that would assist in raising the vibrational frequency of Humanity.

I would be interested in what you all think

Peace

sshenry
19th June 2011, 15:06
Bill and Inelia - you don't know me, I'm new, but I feel the sincerity behind your words and yet....and yet...we've been here before.

Not here in the linear map of time but here, where we stand, on the brink of the end of everything that we have come to know and love. We've been here before; clinging to the edge of the walls of the Abyss with our fingernails and have clung so tight to what we know that we very nearly lost it all when we lost are grip on the wall's edge and tumbled into the dark.

Now I'm not saying that we should sit back and do nothing, for personal resonsibility for our actions and for that which falls within our sphere of influence is an intrinsic part of our spiritual evolution (and after all, it has been a collective lack of personal responsibility that has once again led us to this point) but we also need to learn to let go of those things which we hold dearest to our hearts, for sometimes it is the very things we cling to with such tenacity that hold us back from stepping off the edge into the abyss - and learning that we can fly.

Dennis Leahy
19th June 2011, 15:11
... dharma tourists. ...They get a little knowledge, call themselves buddhists, and take home an attitude, but they are not practitioners (yet).

...

They all end up loving everything, and get quite emotional, especially about the poverty and suffering seen there. They become unstable, and carry the wounds of the world, because they are not seeing the bigger picture.

We all go through this process; it's all part of evolving. But to teach from this platform can lead others into a world of fantasy.

...

Believing only in a universal consciousness can negate personal responsibility.
There is no need for universal consciousness. Everyone keeps their individual consciousness. Otherwise, it would be quite boring...
...

Tony

Tony,

When you posted your essay "28. The Earth does not have consciousness.", I wanted to post my dissent, but had to admit to myself that I simply sense that your assertion was incorrect - I had no direct proof that Gaia exists and/or that the Earth *does* have consciousness. I could talk about interdependence of life forms and their interdependence with non-living matter and energy, water cycles, carbon cycles... but all in all, for me personally, it would be at best a metaphor to describe a sense or a belief that indeed the Earth does have consciousness. I decided not to throw a wet blanket, an anti-thesis, onto your thread.

Perhaps you did not mean to come off this way, but your remarks quoted above, especially the line "They become unstable, and carry the wounds of the world, because they are not seeing the bigger picture" come off as quite condescending. It is as if you are passing judgment on those hapless 'dharma tourists' that didn't really gain the understanding that you did, as if you could somehow ascertain the understanding they acquired and place your own acquired knowledge on a level above theirs.

In stark contrast to the implication (intended or not) that what Bill and Inelia's joint post describes is the low-level half-truth of a dharma tourist, I would assert that what is contained in the original post is a first-hand witness account of a connection to and communication with Gaia. You can choose to believe that Bill and Inelia are lying (it seems to be the sport du jour), or deluded, or you can simply view this as a first-hand witness account of an experience you have not had (yet), and respect it for what it is. Like hugging an alien or out-of-body traveling to other galaxies. One of the things we come together on this forum to do is to allow those with unusual experiences to share them openly with the rest of us that have not had those same direct experiences.

Dennis

Twinsel
19th June 2011, 15:26
:nod: Yes i feel the vibration of sadness as well. Sometimes it's realy hard to deal with it, but it also triggers me to bring more happyness in to the world, to the people around me. It bringes me more awereness of the duty that has to be done, specialy at this very moment. It's getting louder and louder the cry, a vibration what would be a positive effect on people to wake up.
Angels, wake up :high5:

http://www.namastejuicebar.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/namaste3.jpg

Billy
19th June 2011, 15:34
Believing only in a universal consciousness can negate personal responsibility.
There is no need for universal consciousness. Everyone keeps their individual consciousness. Otherwise, it would be quite boring...
Keep your freedom!

Learning is painful...but still we learn.

Tony

Being universal unified consciousness does not mean we lose our individuality. Yes i agree that if becoming " ONE " meant that we all become the same energetic expression, then this would be boring. But this is not the case. We are all individual unique expressions of the creation, and we retain our uniqueness whether we are independant or unified. The Ascended Masters are unified but individuals.

Peace

Jayke
19th June 2011, 15:38
Nicely expressed Bill. And syncronizing yet again. I started a thread on June 13th http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?22732-WORLD-WIDE-JERUSALEM-HUG-3rd-July&p=246643#post246643 on how unity consciousness can raise the vibration of humanity but interestingly enough only one comment so far.

Hmmm I thought is this because most members here at Avalon are truth seekers
( If you read through the titles of most of the threads here and feel what vibration they express) rather than those that would assist in raising the vibrational frequency of Humanity.

I would be interested in what you all think

Peace

Hi Billyji,

I think most people decide what threads to read depending on what truths they're looking for, I know i haven't read that thread previously because a 'world wide jerusalem hug' doesn't sound appealing to me, 'world wide hug time' might have caught my attention better. Likewise with your post on that thread about 'What the Mayan Elders are Saying About 2012 by Carlos Barrios'. If that post was started as a thread of it's own I would have jumped on it, mayans and elder wisdom is something I'm passionate about...'Jerusalem' on the other hand, not so much.

hope this helps :)

Tarka the Duck
19th June 2011, 15:51
To quote Dennis: "...in stark contrast to the implication (intended or not) that what Bill and Inelia's joint post describes is the low-level half-truth of a dharma tourist, I would assert that what is contained in the original post is a first-hand witness account of a connection to and communication with Gaia. You can choose to believe that Bill and Inelia are lying (it seems to be the sport du jour), or deluded, or you can simply view this as a first-hand witness account of an experience you have not had (yet), and respect it for what it is. Like hugging an alien or out-of-body traveling to other galaxies. One of the things we come together on this forum to do is to allow those with unusual experiences to share them openly with the rest of us that have not had those same direct experiences...."

Interesting thoughts, Dennis. I'm sure when the Pie Man has hugged an alien, he will share it with all of us ;).

In the the meantime, I do have a sense that this is a belief system that you are describing: many of your assertions remind me of conversations I have had with "religious" people who do not feel a need for proof of any kind as that will undermine their faith. It's the same old argument...

Thoughts?

Love
Tarka

Unified Serenity
19th June 2011, 16:21
If all thing eminate from an original energy source and things are made up of atoms and thus energy, then there is a sense of consciousness about them. Some things just are and do not have a mind persay. Energy is transferred and thus places can have a feel about them. I have been in places of great beauty and it seems all is in balance. Those who go there are seeking that beauty and do not bring strife and discontent and it eminates that energy even more as people continue to share that same loving experience. I have been to places of horrific violence and without knowing it expressed what I sensed and was informed of those events. Were those places thinking? Were they doing anything? Was there a "good" or "bad" presense there to continue that energy and affect people who visited there? I really do not know as I did not see them at the time. I did experience ghosts so terrified it made your hair stand up. They are locked in an energy type loop and can't see the way out. I didn't have time to help them if they wanted it, and just sent loving calm energy to them and pointed to the "door".

The earth is no more sacred than the things upon it. All matter is one, and we will either learn to accept nature, accept ourselves or we won't. Humanity is hurting on so many levels. We are all responsible for this. Beyond sending energy to try to affect change (I hear Yoda, "There is no try only do") I cannot sweep my will over nations who wish to exploit resources including it's people or other nations people. I can only be the change here in a factual sense. I think this is why I really enjoyed the "where in the world is Matt?" videos. He simply danced and brought people together who did the same wherever he went around the world. David showed his love for God by dancing. His own wife mocked him. Told him that it was not proper for the King to do such. I do not think Gaia is a conscious being anymore than my desk is a conscious being. It is a living energy, and powerful with it's rivers, resources, and such. I think the cry of Gaia is the resonant cry of imbalance in our world and the constant drumming of FEAR energy. Maybe my thinking of Yoda is about understanding the allure of the "dark" side as it were. Dancing too can be just a free expression, but if you have been to nightclubs it can also be like a battle or conquest. It's competition for some. It's sexual and base for some. Is that wrong? Man has a competitive side. We like games and we enjoy one upping each other, well some of us do. This past generation has been taught competition is bad, but without that part of our spirit do we strive to do much of anything? Do we invent? Balance is the key, and learning we are not each other's enemies for me is part of the key in my mind to learning to live in harmony and not go down to darker path of beating one another emotionally or physically to lift ourselves up.

I shall dance in spirit today while I work. Happy father's day to all of you gentlemen out there. Hugs to each of you and the families you have created.

Serenity

ghostrider
19th June 2011, 16:38
A wonderfull post, and I hear what your saying about the earth, the animals and less fortunate people.

But doesn't this all point in a strange way to a necessary cleansing of sorts?
I share in Bill's love of life and nature. I also share his self admitted particiapation in the consumer culture.
I drive a car, I burn gasoliine, I eat meat.
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In my opinion, particiapation in consumer culture, even if you recycle and drive a hybrid is still using up the planet.
It is this, boil it down to brass tacks thinking, that leads me to think that maybe the PTB who are looking to reduce the population,,,,,,,,,,,,,,might be right.
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It's a difficult pill to swallow, but if the choice is no wild forests, wild animals, sealife and no humans left in one hundred years or,,,a necessary cleansing for the posturity of all human kind isn't the latter the better of the two choices.
I'm not one of those with a ticket to an underground bunker, so I'm going to have my ball in the lottery just like everyone else.
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Everyone thinks the Denver airport mural has an evil portend. And to some extent this is true, but the message to me is loud and clear.
The world is dying. The animals are dying. The trees are dying.
We need to bring things under control, so that the world can achieve equilibrium through maintaining a carrying capacity.

great post, but reducing the population, not the answer, changing the perceptiions of the population is the answer. what if there were only one bird, two trees, three whales in the ocean, ten tigers in the world you get the point. not trying to offend, just thinking out loud cause your post got me thinking, the exchange of energy between people, the earth, nature, ideas, perceptions. we just need to tune our souls to each other and earth as we all are connected, we say this but really everything is connected and trying to balance out. if we can connect with mother earth maybe we can learn to re-connect with each other as enteral souls operating on a vibrational reality. again no disrespect intended I type with pure intentions only expressing opinions, and sit here eternaly happy and positive. wish i could leave the wealthest person on earth here with all money.land,power, food everything and the rest of us move to a new earth and he would get it, sitting in his pile of plunder with no one else, he then would get it. It's the people that make it NOT the trinkets. much love and respect.

Nel
19th June 2011, 16:41
Thank you Bill. The words and sentiments you have written here and Inelia's words have moved me to tears. Lately I too have felt the pain of this earth and of its people animals, even the minerals, the micro-organisms. I can barely read what is happening now on this our beloved earth, the pain is so great. I think your advice is good and I will do this that you suggest. Something is shifting, has to shift and will shift if all of us focus our love.

I did cry too. So much pain. Love you both, Bill and Inelia, for these great inspiring words.

ghostrider
19th June 2011, 16:49
Is it just me who finds all this shockingly childish and sentimental?

No doubt I shall receive a shower of abuse for saying this... ;)

Lots of love
Tarka

now showers of abuse only love, you are a free soul, expressing the moment with your own perceptions. we have freedom here if nowhere else. everyone just wants to help in some small way.

Dennis Leahy
19th June 2011, 16:55
... I do have a sense that this is a belief system that you are describing: many of your assertions remind me of conversations I have had with "religious" people who do not feel a need for proof of any kind as that will undermine their faith. It's the same old argument...

Thoughts?

Love
Tarka

I'd guess that 99% of what has happened to me in my life would be somewhere between difficult and impossible to 'prove' to you, so virtually every word out of my mouth and from my keyboard could be seen as merely something for you to dismiss as my belief. Will you believe pie'n'eal if and when he tells you he has hugged an alien? How will he prove it to you if he has that experience? With audio and video and photographic editing software, holographic technology, and methods for inserting false memories into someone's brain, what proof would pie'n'eal ever show that would take you from belief to proof? What exactly would you expect to be given as proof - from anyone - that Gaia is not a hypothesis but rather a real entity?

Perhaps you do not "believe in" anything metaphysical? Or, if you do, maybe you only believe in metaphysical events that have happened to you personally? Or, maybe there is an occasional witness account of a metaphysical event that cannot be proven, yet, for some reason, something resounds within you and you *know* it is true - you accept and believe without proof. There are literally tens of thousands of posts on Avalon that discuss topics that are metaphysical, and though 'real' for some, they are dismissed by others as merely being 'beliefs.' I'd say, if interested, you could start a topic on "belief versus proof of metaphysical events", and we could respectfully admit that we've both subtracted more than we added to this thread of Bill and Inelia's.

Dennis

Maia Gabrial
19th June 2011, 17:07
Your words touched my heart....
Thank you, Bill and Inelia for sharing your inspiring words....:grouphug:
Maia

onawah
19th June 2011, 17:16
It is so nice to see a thread like this on PA. I had considered leaving the forum for a time, but now it feels like this is a good place to be again.

The path of the Bodhisattva involves many, many learning experiences. There is still some attachment, and so, although one senses the peace and stillness of the Void that both permeates and lies beyond all created things, there is still identification with all that suffers. In a sense, we are all Bodhisattvas, and that in itself is one of the final, liberating realizations of the Bodhisattva before the last fetters are loosened at last.
Or so we have been told by all the great Teachers, and I do not doubt it.

From another perspective, since we are all eternal beings, we are experiencing all of this at once. It just depends on what our focus is, as to what particular part of the whole we are experiencing at any given moment.
If we are feeling the great suffering of all things, it is because we have chosen to feel that, perhaps so that we may be spurred on to do something to alleviate that pain.

At other times, we may choose to focus on the bliss of Oneness with all things, and that may also be due to a need to heal, to recharge our batteries, so that we may take the next step on our path. Anxiety comes about when we fear that we will backslide, that we will be caught up again in the delusion of Samsara, or become indifferent to the suffering of others, but even in those states, growth may occur. It is all about finding balance, and yet, we cannot remain in balance all the time, as that would be a kind of stasis. And so we expand as we grow, absorbing and creating experiences of all kinds.

I too have felt the great pain of Gaea in a more pronounced way of late. And I believe, as Bill has expressed, we are at a threshold now.

And it does seem to me, both intuitively and from personal experience that, as many whistleblowers and channelers are saying, there are beings from other worlds and other dimensions who have come here now to help, and indeed, have in some cases been watching over us all along.

Gaea's destination to a higher plane of existence is assured, as that is the goal of evolution on all planes of existence and cannot be denied or delayed indefinitely.
Those who are not ready have no need to be dragged along, kicking and screaming. The Law of Attraction will place them where they need to be. We can bless them on their journeys and help to light the way.
Those who are ready will gravitate naturally to the sources of information and inspiration they need to awaken. We can be there for them as they open their eyes to new realities.

Many souls who are not ready for this journey are here just to "get their feet wet", and will emigrate to realities that are better suited to their levels of development.
They will have experienced something invaluable during their sojourn here, as eyewitnesses to a world that is making the leap from 3D to 4D, an epic journey of cosmic proportions and significance. Though from one perspective, their lives may seem full of unnecessary suffering, we cannot be the judge of what they have chosen to experience or the value therein.

Highly evolved souls more recently arrived will stay to help us make the leap, and then will depart back to their home worlds when they have accomplished their missions here. Their mission is to lead, not to rule.

Those of us who have been here for many lifetimes have the opportunity now to balance our karma at long last and take the next step with Gaea beyond 3 D experiencing.
The meek, who, trusting in the Process, surrendered to experiencing all the various guises of victim and oppressor, villain and hero, creator and destroyer, will reap the reward and "inherit the Earth". We will have the peaceful home on our beloved planet we have worked toward for so long, though at times, it may have seemed we were striving for the exact opposite.
But experiencing opposites is the point of dualistic 3D, and so, understanding this, we can forgive ourselves and others for our "bad karma".
And we can forgive those blind and fearful ones who have lost their way in the darkness, knowing that we too, may have walked in their shoes at some point. They too will find their way in time, and it is not up to us to decide when or how that might come about, though we may offer them our compassion and Light their way as we can.

Many of us experienced the heartbreak of the Fall of Atlantis and those feelings are coming up for us again now. But we learned much from that dress rehearsal. The Phoenix will rise from the ashes, never again to repeat the same mistakes.

This I believe.

Thanks to everyone here who keeps an open heart, an open mind, an ability to share wisdom from the heart, and to share knowledge that can help with the work at hand.:angel:

juliagulia55
19th June 2011, 18:15
I took my car into a carwash on Thursday and this song came on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAi3VTSdTxU suddenly I was in floods of tears because I could feel gaia's cry for help with every fibre of my being more than I've ever felt it before. I was amazed when I stumbled across this thread to find so many others feeling this too.

Then I started thinking about 11.11 - so many are seeing this everywhere at the moment and I thought we could use it in a really good way. If masses of people all around the world focussed their thoughts (even for just one minute) on raising the vibration of the planet everytime they saw 11.11 this would have a major impact :)

Carolin
19th June 2011, 18:29
Thank you Bill for the mind altering post. :nod: Sending much love, light and strength to Inelia. :wub: It must be very hard to deal with that kind of a gift day in and day out! :hail:

Lazlo
19th June 2011, 18:29
May I ever so humbly submit that if we all spent 10 minutes a day taking action against the murderers, pillagers of the environment, and war profiteers, we'd get there a whole lot sooner than if we hold them in our collective thoughts and meditate on the morphic fields.

Pick a target this week, haliburton, BP, Xe, monsanto...whoever. Spend 5 minutes writing a letter to a congressman on a key committee, and five minutes trying to convince someone else to write one. Last I checked, 125 people had thanked Bill's OP. 125 people writing one letter a day, every day like it was their job, will get attention.

Spend 10 minutes a day plastering photos that are embarrassing for corporations in public places. Take 10 minutes worth of your salary every day and donate it to a worthy cause. Take 10 minutes a day and...DO SOMETHING.

Tony
19th June 2011, 18:42
... I do have a sense that this is a belief system that you are describing: many of your assertions remind me of conversations I have had with "religious" people who do not feel a need for proof of any kind as that will undermine their faith. It's the same old argument...

Thoughts?

Love
Tarka

I'd guess that 99% of what has happened to me in my life would be somewhere between difficult and impossible to 'prove' to you, so virtually every word out of my mouth and from my keyboard could be seen as merely something for you to dismiss as my belief. Will you believe pie'n'eal if and when he tells you he has hugged an alien? How will he prove it to you if he has that experience? With audio and video and photographic editing software, holographic technology, and methods for inserting false memories into someone's brain, what proof would pie'n'eal ever show that would take you from belief to proof? What exactly would you expect to be given as proof - from anyone - that Gaia is not a hypothesis but rather a real entity?

Perhaps you do not "believe in" anything metaphysical? Or, if you do, maybe you only believe in metaphysical events that have happened to you personally? Or, maybe there is an occasional witness account of a metaphysical event that cannot be proven, yet, for some reason, something resounds within you and you *know* it is true - you accept and believe without proof. There are literally tens of thousands of posts on Avalon that discuss topics that are metaphysical, and though 'real' for some, they are dismissed by others as merely being 'beliefs.' I'd say, if interested, you could start a topic on "belief versus proof of metaphysical events", and we could respectfully admit that we've both subtracted more than we added to this thread of Bill and Inelia's.

Dennis

Hello Dennis,
It's nice to chat with you.

It all depend on how you define reality.
Every thing, all phenomena has a beginning a middle and an end.
So has no reality, only a seeming reality.

Once the earth is finally run its course, where will its consciousness be?

Giving consciousness to some thing, is only in ones concepts.
Concepts also have no reality. When talking of consciousness, there
many levels, until one gets to very subtle awareness or pure perception.

At each level perception changes.

This is a good thread, just keep going!

All the best
Tony

Mark
19th June 2011, 18:49
This is a very important truth to realize, thank you both for sharing it, to Inelia, for opening herself to Bill to allow him to perceive Creation through her vantage, to Bill for the brutal honesty of self-knowledge and growth that he shares in all of the trials and travails that we must inevitably experience while attempting to reach some level of gnosis for ourselves. The connection to Gaia is inherent within each of us, but as Inelia implies, our ability to access it lies dormant within us as we are busily distracted by the minutia of the "daily grind". Even as we are distracted, we can "speak" to Gaia as Bill did and rest assured that She hears us, even if we are not aware enough yet individually to be able to bear witness to her many responses to us. It is comforting to be in the company of souls who know they do not have all of the answers, but who seek to share the things they do believe they understand even while acknowledging the possibility of being wrong. Recognizing the individuality of experience while being simultaneously aware of the collectivism of it as well is perhaps an expression of the "middle path" that those of the Buddhist understanding are currently discussing here. Perhaps dissolution within a formative void/amenta/nirvana is not truly the goal, but a truer expression of living here upon this planet we call home, while we are incarnate within the flesh.

Tony
19th June 2011, 19:29
I'm all for people standing on their own two feet.
As long as they have a leg to stand on!

Tarka the Duck
19th June 2011, 19:32
... I do have a sense that this is a belief system that you are describing: many of your assertions remind me of conversations I have had with "religious" people who do not feel a need for proof of any kind as that will undermine their faith. It's the same old argument...

Thoughts?

Love
Tarka

I'd guess that 99% of what has happened to me in my life would be somewhere between difficult and impossible to 'prove' to you, so virtually every word out of my mouth and from my keyboard could be seen as merely something for you to dismiss as my belief. Will you believe pie'n'eal if and when he tells you he has hugged an alien? How will he prove it to you if he has that experience? With audio and video and photographic editing software, holographic technology, and methods for inserting false memories into someone's brain, what proof would pie'n'eal ever show that would take you from belief to proof? What exactly would you expect to be given as proof - from anyone - that Gaia is not a hypothesis but rather a real entity?

Perhaps you do not "believe in" anything metaphysical? Or, if you do, maybe you only believe in metaphysical events that have happened to you personally? Or, maybe there is an occasional witness account of a metaphysical event that cannot be proven, yet, for some reason, something resounds within you and you *know* it is true - you accept and believe without proof. There are literally tens of thousands of posts on Avalon that discuss topics that are metaphysical, and though 'real' for some, they are dismissed by others as merely being 'beliefs.' I'd say, if interested, you could start a topic on "belief versus proof of metaphysical events", and we could respectfully admit that we've both subtracted more than we added to this thread of Bill and Inelia's.

Dennis


Dear Dennis
Let me try to explain a little more clearly where I am coming from. I am not one of those fortunate people who is skilful with words, but I shall try...I am certainly no expert in this field and feel a little intimidated by some of the long words you used!

I suppose that I am not so concerned about the physical world out there: I don't want to anthropomorphise it as it is no more real and permanent than I am. I will love and care for my cat to the same degree whether I believe she is conscious or not (in the sense of being self aware). I, like most people, find great beauty in the world - that is easy to do -and truly believe that we must take care of it and all its component parts. Everything is interdependent. And of course, there is much that is not seen as not beautiful - and that, too has a vital role in the drama, and is equally impermanent. It is all part of a relative reality, to use Buddhist terminology.

Whether I believe someone has hugged an alien or not is actually irrelevant, and will probably only result in a "yes I did" "no you didn't" kind of discussion! It is a reality for that person, and that person alone - but it is still only in the relative world. So what does it matter anyway? It only reflects the ultimate reality of its true nature, which is emptiness. I only have a problem when that individual's reality is expounded as fact, without any requests for clarification...

Spiritual practice and experience is surely beneficial without any need for supernatural or metaphysical explanations. In Tibetan Buddhism, there is a name for these experiences: they are called nyam, and are seen as transient experiences which can trap us if we get excited by them and claim them for ourselves with a sense of duality. Far better to acknowledge them for what they are - temporary moments of a heightened experience - and return to the practice of letting be, rather than getting excited! As a Tibetan lama explains: like being a doorman at a big hotel - when the nyam come along, open the door and greet them politely and let them pass as you would with a guest - don't go following them to the loo! Just let them move on, without leaving a trace.

Star
19th June 2011, 19:36
Dear Bill and Inelia,

I loved your post and replied with a long one at 2:30 this morning only to find the server bounced me for too much time taken so say the moderators. so I better do this quick. I have seen so much happen to the animal kingdom by research, slaughter houses, hunting and also have watched the weather patterns change so much and each time I see the Sunday papers I cringe thinking how many trees have we cut down for this or for the Playboy, entertainment, and news magazines?

I am saddened by so many starving when we have the technology and resources to feed everyone and the greed and corruption that is all part of this. The feminine seems to be taken out of the equation and only the dark masculine energies are there creating more wars, and it is a crime to put a prisoner in a cell for 23 hours of the day for months or years! What is wrong with us? When does it end. I am not a happy camper...thanks for the post . I better stop now before I am dropped again.

Love,
Star

jp11
19th June 2011, 19:54
Huma,

Thank you for including the link to the video. I was so moved by it I'm sending it on to my sons along with a link to Bill and Inelia's message.

And thank you to all who have responded. Your messages have been thought provoking, inspirational, and given me a renewed sense of being here at this time. Only yesterday I was feeling somewhat down, wondering why, what am I doing here, etc.

I send my love and blessings to all.
:grouphug::

onawah
19th June 2011, 20:11
Recognizing the individuality of experience while being simultaneously aware of the collectivism of it as well is perhaps an expression of the "middle path" that those of the Buddhist understanding are currently discussing here. Perhaps dissolution within a formative void/amenta/nirvana is not truly the goal, but a truer expression of living here upon this planet we call home, while we are incarnate within the flesh.

There are many paths within the path of Buddhism, but I would say, as a lifelong student of Buddhism as well as other spiritual philosophies, that in general terms when in "beginner's mind" one's mind is still so conditioned that it is nearly impossible to be really cognizant of much more than the "monkey mind"--the one that chatters endlessly and is very much identified with ego or the "little self". At this stage, one is likely to listen to "authority" and much less inclined to think for one's self or risk experiencing directly, outside of the ordinary realm of possibility.
One may, if persevering enough, experience momentary glimpses of something beyond the ordinary, when the mental chatter has been stilled long enough to permit insight.
But it is not until the comparatively "extraordinary" realms of consciousness become more familiar territory that the aspirant may begin to really grasp that "Nirvana is not truly the goal, but a truer expression of living here upon this planet we call home, while we are incarnate within the flesh."
That is the ground and being of the Bodhisattva, the original "walker between the worlds", so to speak.
It is said that the more a Bodhisattva postpones his or her own enlightenment for the benefit of others, the more that the enlightened state enters into the aspirant's field of consciousness. However, the Bodhisattva does not seek the liberation of self into an ecstatic, formless Nirvana state, but rather the dissolution of ignorance (or separation), which does not exclude anything, but rather includes and becomes more and more open to All That Is, which takes courage.
The walls of rigid thinking brought about by conditioning dissolve and one is able to see and comprehend more and more of the limitless vastness and endless possibilities of All That Is, not because some Authority has said so and one has believed, but because one experiences that vastness and limitless directly through a heightened sense of awareness or "extrasensory perception".
(Although if that kind of perception is sought for the sake of itself alone, the perceptions will be distorted and may even be dangerous.)
But if the heart and intent are pure, all sorts of wonderful and also painful experiences may be the result--the ecstatic state of connection with Gaea as a living entity, however different than the human entity, for example, and the unhappy realization that such a vast entity may also be subject to suffering and the pains of growth and maturation.

And on a side note, as I understand it, Gaea as a living entity is subject also to a kind of transmigration. When her corporeal part, the material planet itself, reaches the end of the natural life cycle, the spirit Gaea that inhabited that material form may take on another form or become formless on a more subtle plane of existence, but like any other living entity, will continue her journey through Oneness.

I have heard it said that planets may evolve into Suns, which makes perfect sense to me.

gsb67
19th June 2011, 20:13
"Well, isn't it oh! Isn't it rich! Look at the charm of every stitch!
The suit of clothes is all together
But all together it's all together
The most remarkable suit of clothes that I have ever seen.

:)

9eagle9
19th June 2011, 20:43
Mixed messages leave us disconcerted, Stan. Its very hard to comment when somone says yes and no in the same expression. Yes the earth is wonderful solid place, no the earth is a suffering mother of sorrows.

Here's your mumur Stan,

Humans , and I stress HUMANS, tend to self identify their own wounds and sufferings in each other. People who do healing and earth work learn to not get corded into the mirror effect. We re-emphasize the suffering instead of abating it. It makes it harder for the object in question to separate from what ails them. Perception suffers for it mostly. Meaning if one has a particular wound they are going to see it in everyone and everything and a small portion of how suffering is created. Most people who shown how to interect with others are shown how not to cord into the woundedness because one loses the perspective of wholeness, the goal as it were. Lifting vibration means removing density not re inforcing it. New age parables are about thought rather than experience of shifting it not by denying it exists, but by deconstructing it by not feeding it.

People tend to think compassion means climbing into the wound when compassion is seeing what the other person can't see for themselves. Their wholeness.

Having billions glom onto you in self identification is far more tiring than ingesting toxins, in fact when too many people glom onto me in self identification, I turn toxic. So....the earth naturally reflects back what is going on inside of us.

Earth Keepers while recognizing this for what it is a conditon of human nature to self identify, regretfully have to admit that it causes more density to work though. I am not unhappy only puzzled as that is what 10th dimensional energies are for, to break down density.

huggles



I haven't heard anything new on this thread that I do not already know. Nothing I haven't heard before on many a new agey site espousing love for the planet which they all have done for many years in the past. I pray myself every day for this planet and all the beings who live here. I always will and I have since I realized that this prayer has an incredible effect. However I expected to hear something, even some kind of murmur to say something on topic for one thing. I am unhappy about this.

Stan

Jayke
19th June 2011, 21:10
Those of us who have been here for many lifetimes have the opportunity now to balance our karma at long last and take the next step with Gaea beyond 3 D experiencing.
The meek, who, trusting in the Process, surrendered to experiencing all the various guises of victim and oppressor, villain and hero, creator and destroyer, will reap the reward and "inherit the Earth". We will have the peaceful home on our beloved planet we have worked toward for so long, though at times, it may have seemed we were striving for the exact opposite.
But experiencing opposites is the point of dualistic 3D, and so, understanding this, we can forgive ourselves and others for our "bad karma".
And we can forgive those blind and fearful ones who have lost their way in the darkness, knowing that we too, may have walked in their shoes at some point. They too will find their way in time, and it is not up to us to decide when or how that might come about, though we may offer them our compassion and Light their way as we can.

Many of us experienced the heartbreak of the Fall of Atlantis and those feelings are coming up for us again now. But we learned much from that dress rehearsal. The Phoenix will rise from the ashes, never again to repeat the same mistakes.

This I believe.

That was a really nice post onawah, the part about the phoenix rising really resonated with me.

I'd just like to add that pain is nothing to be feared but embraced, in buddhism they have a formula for spiritual growth:

Pain x equanimity = spiritual purification

this is how the whole idea of flaggelation came about, purposefully inflicting pain upon yourself so that you can have equanimity over it and ultimately quicken your own purification. Quite a misguided concept really but whatever floats their boat I suppose.
anyway, I had the opportunity to put this theory to the test about 4 years ago after getting into an accident one night and breaking my jaw, I had to go under general anaesthetic so they could slice through the main jaw nerve and screw a titanium plate in their to hold the shattered jaw together.
After the operation they advised me to go on a morphine drip for the pain but I refused since I was still high from the anaesthetic at the time and the pain wasn't all that noticeable, I felt confidant i could make it through the night in relative comfort. As the hours passed by though and the sedatives began to wear off this indescribable pain started to fill my awareness, unbearable, unimaginable, I can't even begin to describe how intense it was, makes me shudder and cringe just thinking about it.

Luckily though i was already aware of the Buddhist formula for spiritual purification so out of desperation I wholeheartedly flung myself into equanimity meditation...it took me deep, so deep it was like the entire fabric of space time ripped open, out in front of me there was a black hole in the centre of my vision, just pure emptiness... yet within the emptiness I began to see a stirring... images, visions, insights began to pour through...i got to watch a few past lives as though watching a movie on a screen out in front of me, only small snippets of information and scenes quickly passing by but enough to get an intuitive idea of what was going on and enough to completely bring about a new paradigm shift regarding awareness, life and the universe...that experience changed my life, altered my perceptions and enhanced my attitude towards the world, my job changed, my friends changed and I started spending more and more time with more spiritually inclined people, bringing a greater sense of harmony, insight and connectedness throughout every aspect of my life.

I later found out that spot in my vision where the black whole had tore through the fabric of reality is what modern optometrists call the blind spot, our ancient ancestors including people like Leonardo da vinci and other illuminated masters called that 'the vision of cosmic intelligence spot', apparantly there is a postage stamp sized set of neurons behind the visual cortex of the right eye connecting to the right hemisphere of the brain, which when activated is dedicated to being able to see through the 3D world into the ultimate awareness and when you can learn to access it you literally get to see through time and space...being able to witness not only your past lives but all your future lives as well, as easily as though your watching a movie on a movie screen...makes it easy to understand how so many prophecies of 2012 came into being, these people of old could literally see the lives they were living right now in our modern times as they moved through this great cosmic change of ascension.

I guess the moral of the story would be that Gaea has the most profound unconditional love for everything that takes place within her creation, she has a level of equanimity beyond anything even the most accomplished humanly Buddhas could have experienced, as long as we can all remain in equanimity over the pain while working on harnessing the brilliance of our own inner light and our own inner passions then when the pain becomes unbearable all that will happen is the tear in space time will occur and the download will begin to take place, the fractures have already begun to open, we're already going through the shift as everyone on here who is aware enough can identify with it from their own experience. The idea that this won't all turn out for the best is so far removed from my reality that when i look out on the euphoric beauty that is Gaea, in whatever form she may be taking at the time...all I ever see back is a smile of the greatest Joy and serenity as she knows exactly what is about to take place.

most people see breaking a few bones or going through tremendous pain as an experience to be shut down with medication, drugs or anaesthetics...in reality it's the embracing of pain, understanding it and learning from it and forgiving it that is going to lead us into our planetary salvation. I look back on breaking my jaw as being the greatest gift ever to be bestowed on me, I transformed my karma by burning it off in the crucible of equanimity, we need to do the same with the pain of the planet, always remembering to shine our light as brightly as humanly possible, spread our joy, spirit and divinity to anyone who is open enough to listen and allow the phoenix to rise and soar from the flames.

Intraphase
19th June 2011, 21:16
Video portraiture.
Bill & Inelia meet Aubrey at The Core.
Bill & Inelia meet The Machine at The Boundary.
The spirit of peyote rides along guided by The Trickster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsKNAw904f0


The world was here today
The world was here yesterday
It shall probably be here tomorrow
The Sun, Earth and Moon are true friends.

:eyebrows::behindsofa::boxing:
It's not a couch it's a love seat.

Teakai
20th June 2011, 00:09
Dear Teakai

I feel it! Ooooo, I feel it! Much appreciated and welcomed...but if you mean by "mend thy ways" that I should go against a sincere and heartfelt instinct that something is false and contrived, then I am afraid I cannot oblige.

Unless, of course, there is only one belief system permitted on this forum, in which case, I shall bow out gracefully...

Much love - and respect

Tarka

No no no, Tarka, I have no idea what ways you have to mend (if any).

Just easing your mind about the shower of abuse.

(Did you really feel it? I've been practising ;) )

Flash
20th June 2011, 01:47
... I do have a sense that this is a belief system that you are describing: many of your assertions remind me of conversations I have had with "religious" people who do not feel a need for proof of any kind as that will undermine their faith. It's the same old argument...

Thoughts?

Love
Tarka

I'd guess that 99% of what has happened to me in my life would be somewhere between difficult and impossible to 'prove' to you, so virtually every word out of my mouth and from my keyboard could be seen as merely something for you to dismiss as my belief. Will you believe pie'n'eal if and when he tells you he has hugged an alien? How will he prove it to you if he has that experience? With audio and video and photographic editing software, holographic technology, and methods for inserting false memories into someone's brain, what proof would pie'n'eal ever show that would take you from belief to proof? What exactly would you expect to be given as proof - from anyone - that Gaia is not a hypothesis but rather a real entity?

Perhaps you do not "believe in" anything metaphysical? Or, if you do, maybe you only believe in metaphysical events that have happened to you personally? Or, maybe there is an occasional witness account of a metaphysical event that cannot be proven, yet, for some reason, something resounds within you and you *know* it is true - you accept and believe without proof. There are literally tens of thousands of posts on Avalon that discuss topics that are metaphysical, and though 'real' for some, they are dismissed by others as merely being 'beliefs.' I'd say, if interested, you could start a topic on "belief versus proof of metaphysical events", and we could respectfully admit that we've both subtracted more than we added to this thread of Bill and Inelia's.

Dennis

Dennis, I do understand some of the metaphysical aspect of things, but what you are expressing here really looks sooooo much like what you and many others were expressing about Charles/atticus case. And also as Tarka the duck says (by the way the tarka sound is like a turkish sounding word, tarka, duck living in Britain lol), I heard these same analogies so often from multiple sects.

Same kind of seemingly blind belief, without proofs, but mainly without usage of both brains, left and right, and the heart. These are not given to us just for the sake of being there, they are to be used. Once the right brain has understood the metaphysical aspect of things, the left brain has to have enough to be able to analyse and sequence and rationalised. The reverse is also true, sometimes the analysis leads to the metaphysical. Not using both often leads to religiousness or worst, religiousism (fabricated word, ism being the pejorative). Those attribute of the human brain are there to service us.

Same with the heart: how many time did I read on this forum, "if it does not resonate with you, then read elsewhere" or "it is not MYYYY timeline" the last one sounding soooo much like spiritual ego (the most difficult one to deal with). This is like saying take a hike - I do not care or want to know about you if you are not on my side.

You see Dennis, I see the world very differently. Everything in life will be processed/experienced with the tools I have, both brains, heart, emotions, all the chakras as much as I can, my body and all the energitic levels I am bathing in, as much as I can. My job is to clean myself up as much as possible in order to be able to chose correctly every instant. Is Gaia conscious? If I did not directly lived the experience, it makes however perfect sense on the pure rational intellectual side of it (could be explained at lenght with is not the reason of my post). Could I then convert it to the metaphysical experience, surely with attentiveness or practice.

I should be able to do both, left and right brain. The real path is in the middle, where you can't be fooled. Is Gaia conscious? If in the metaphysical experience I say yes, then it should make it easy for me (and all of us) to convert it to left brain rational and explain it as well. And add to this the heart, the central piece of processing for humans, and add all the rest of our beings, individual and collective as well.

You see Dennis, in my view, the way these demands for all sides of comprehension were answered did closed the way, did close the communication and the motivation to communicate, instead of opening it. This is usually exactly what happens with religiousness/sectarian thinking.

I would be sad to see Inelia's message take this path, sometimes not because of her, but because of our own restrictive views.

And yes, I was taken aback by the different timelines: if you are not with me kind of, you are not. This is incredible to me, this is the antithesis of helping others to awaken.

On Gaia, we are all with her, we are all one, the human specie with the nature altogether. How can we throw away people for differing in timelines/ideas/metaphisical experiences/$poverty or richness/race/name it. If it has to be done, a selection has to take place, it will be naturally, by the nature itself, not by humans egos, like PTB desires (or us, acting as PTB would) no need to put efforts into it. The only need at this point and time is to chose at every instant and personnally I Chose and always chose, every instant, to help and to love. No closing up to anything.

I would, to my regret, say that I have seen that often lately on some threads on this forum, closing up.

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Dear Teakai

I feel it! Ooooo, I feel it! Much appreciated and welcomed...but if you mean by "mend thy ways" that I should go against a sincere and heartfelt instinct that something is false and contrived, then I am afraid I cannot oblige.

Unless, of course, there is only one belief system permitted on this forum, in which case, I shall bow out gracefully...

Much love - and respect

Tarka

No no no, Tarka, I have no idea what ways you have to mend (if any).

Just easing your mind about the shower of abuse.

(Did you really feel it? I've been practising ;) )

Teakai, we almost always feel it from you :cool:

Teakai
20th June 2011, 02:16
Dennis, I do understand some of the metaphysical aspect of things, but what you are expressing here really looks sooooo much like what you and many others were expressing about Charles/atticus case. And also as Tarka the duck says (by the way the tarka sound is like a turkish sounding word, tarka, duck living in Britain lol), I heard these same analogies so often from multiple sects.

Same kind of seemingly blind belief, without proofs, but mainly without usage of both brains, left and right, and the heart. These are not given to us just for the sake of being there, they are to be used. Once the right brain has understood the metaphysical aspect of things, the left brain has to have enough to be able to analyse and sequence and rationalised. The reverse is also true, sometimes the analysis leads to the metaphysical. Not using both often leads to religiousness or worst, religiousism (fabricated word, ism being the pejorative). Those attribute of the human brain are there to service us.

Same with the heart: how many time did I read on this forum, "if it does not resonate with you, then read elsewhere" or "it is not MYYYY timeline" the last one sounding soooo much like spiritual ego (the most difficult one to deal with). This is like saying take a hike - I do not care or want to know about you if you are not on my side.

You see Dennis, I see the world very differently. Everything in life will be processed/experienced with the tools I have, both brains, heart, emotions, all the chakras as much as I can, my body and all the energitic levels I am bathing in, as much as I can. My job is to clean myself up as much as possible in order to be able to chose correctly every instant. Is Gaia conscious? If I did not directly lived the experience, it makes however perfect sense on the pure rational intellectual side of it (could be explained at lenght with is not the reason of my post). Could I then convert it to the metaphysical experience, surely with attentiveness or practice.

I should be able to do both, left and right brain. The real path is in the middle, where you can't be fooled. Is Gaia conscious? If in the metaphysical experience I say yes, then it should make it easy for me (and all of us) to convert it to left brain rational and explain it as well. And add to this the heart, the central piece of processing for humans, and add all the rest of our beings, individual and collective as well.

You see Dennis, in my view, the way these demands for all sides of comprehension were answered did closed the way, did close the communication and the motivation to communicate, instead of opening it. This is usually exactly what happens with religiousness/sectarian thinking.

I would be sad to see Inelia's message take this path, sometimes not because of her, but because of our own restrictive views.

And yes, I was taken aback by the different timelines: if you are not with me kind of, you are not. This is incredible to me, this is the antithesis of helping others to awaken.

On Gaia, we are all with her, we are all one, the human specie with the nature altogether. How can we throw away people for differing in timelines/ideas/metaphisical experiences/$poverty or richness/race/name it. If it has to be done, a selection has to take place, it will be naturally, by the nature itself, not by humans egos, like PTB desires (or us, acting as PTB would) no need to put efforts into it. The only need at this point and time is to chose at every instant and personnally I Chose and always chose, every instant, to help and to love. No closing up to anything.

I would, to my regret, say that I have seen that often lately on some threads on this forum, closing up.


Teakai, we almost always feel it from you :cool:

Flash, I just wanted to say this post is wonderful. It is so concise and so well explained and you have used both sides of your brain perfectly. True balance. This is what the world requires.

Also - glad to know you're feeling the love - I rarely feel anything other than :)

Just to say- this isn't a criticism to Dennis' post. I haven't been keeping up with the Atticus and timeline threads so know little of people's thoughts in regard to them.

Teakai
20th June 2011, 03:09
Sychronicity - ya gotta love it.

I was thinking that the photo of the hand feeding the humming birds in the photo was Inelia's - then I opened my email just now and got this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=EUEZkwJulBY


And then I found this:
http://www.abigailsings.com/hummingbirds/IMG_0896r-sm.jpg

http://www.abigailsings.com/hummingbirds/

So, for anyone else, who, like me was mistaken in their assumption I share this.

DNA
20th June 2011, 05:41
A wonderfull post, and I hear what your saying about the earth, the animals and less fortunate people.

But doesn't this all point in a strange way to a necessary cleansing of sorts?
I share in Bill's love of life and nature. I also share his self admitted particiapation in the consumer culture.
I drive a car, I burn gasoliine, I eat meat.
.
In my opinion, particiapation in consumer culture, even if you recycle and drive a hybrid is still using up the planet.
It is this, boil it down to brass tacks thinking, that leads me to think that maybe the PTB who are looking to reduce the population,,,,,,,,,,,,,,might be right.
.
It's a difficult pill to swallow, but if the choice is no wild forests, wild animals, sealife and no humans left in one hundred years or,,,a necessary cleansing for the posturity of all human kind isn't the latter the better of the two choices.
I'm not one of those with a ticket to an underground bunker, so I'm going to have my ball in the lottery just like everyone else.
.
Everyone thinks the Denver airport mural has an evil portend. And to some extent this is true, but the message to me is loud and clear.
The world is dying. The animals are dying. The trees are dying.
We need to bring things under control, so that the world can achieve equilibrium through maintaining a carrying capacity.

great post, but reducing the population, not the answer, changing the perceptiions of the population is the answer. what if there were only one bird, two trees, three whales in the ocean, ten tigers in the world you get the point. not trying to offend, just thinking out loud cause your post got me thinking, the exchange of energy between people, the earth, nature, ideas, perceptions. we just need to tune our souls to each other and earth as we all are connected, we say this but really everything is connected and trying to balance out. if we can connect with mother earth maybe we can learn to re-connect with each other as enteral souls operating on a vibrational reality. again no disrespect intended I type with pure intentions only expressing opinions, and sit here eternaly happy and positive. wish i could leave the wealthest person on earth here with all money.land,power, food everything and the rest of us move to a new earth and he would get it, sitting in his pile of plunder with no one else, he then would get it. It's the people that make it NOT the trinkets. much love and respect.

I love your signature by the way. I was just listening to a Val Valerien interview and he kept repeating that to his interviewer. Good stuff. :)

I appreciate your post. I appreciate your thinking and your point of view.
I appreciate your optimisim, I just don't share it.
We are spiritual beings having a human experience, and to that end, we must look at our past or be doomed to repeat it in the future.
You and others may see me as a pessimist, but I disagree, I see myself as a pragmatist, I just can't cover my vision with wishfull thinking, that kind of thinking doesn't work for me.
It never has.
We are souls of varrying age in my opinion, and unfortunatly, the younger souls are dominating the earth.
Unfortunate as well, I don't see those younger souls circumventing the necessary harsh lessons of sufferring.
Yes, we are spiritual beings having a human experience, and that human experience entails all the horror, bloodshed, death and disease that is inherant in the material world.
There is no heaven on earth. If ascension exists, there is no record of it ever having happened.
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I'm simply posing the question as it has been posed to folks who are looking at the world with history as their only teacher and means of analyzing human behavior.
Do you do a forest burn off, or do you allow circumstances to unfold to the point that the whole forest burns down?

inzer0
20th June 2011, 06:32
this post brought tears to my eyes.. beautifully written.. thank you

araucaria
20th June 2011, 07:03
I have just posted something on the Atticus thread about Gaia, having almost forgotten about this thread, which i still haven't read actually. So for those who see this as a diversion, let me just say that on the contrary, this is exactly where we need to be.
Thanks Bill and Inelia

Jayke
20th June 2011, 07:44
Just found this interesting commentary from a peruvian shaman who was given insight regarding 2012 during his ayahuasca trips:

Don Juanito converses with Rebekita in 2004:

""We are now almost totally controlled by fear, and therefore believe that we need to control the natural flow of life, the very thing that creates and preserves human existence. This fear could eventually lead to the end of the human race as we know it." "But how can we die out when we are the most powerful species on the planet?" I protested . "Huh!" the Shaman snorted. "Mother Nature is alive, and is growing just like humans. Do not think the strange weather patterns and natural disasters you will start to see across this planet are solely because of global warming. No, it is Mother earth preparing herself for a new cycle, a new rebirth. Now the time has come for the next phase to take place, and it will be painful for those that do not choose to change. Do not despair my little linda wawita. We can still change the direction we are going, but only when we decide to change the way we see the world. Only when we unite, and choose love instead of fear, unity instead of separation, power instead of force, can we stop the destruction that is about to take place. For soon it will be time for Mother Nature to take charge once again. She has been patiently waiting for us to wake up, but she cannot wait much longer. This is what Ayahuasca has told us.""

Lief
20th June 2011, 10:52
Thank you both so much for this touching post.
I am in tears after reading your post... my daughter of 2 years old come to me and touches a tear rolling down my cheak, she doesn't ask, she just looks at me with her big grey eyes and climbs op my lap... she puts her little arms around my nek and gives me a kiss... well, thats all we need... LOVE :hug:

araucaria
20th June 2011, 11:18
And yes, I was taken aback by the different timelines: if you are not with me kind of, you are not. This is incredible to me, this is the antithesis of helping others to awaken.

On Gaia, we are all with her, we are all one, the human specie with the nature altogether. How can we throw away people for differing in timelines/ideas/metaphisical experiences/$poverty or richness/race/name it.



Flash

Nice post, thank you.
Let me address this particular section, where I feel like one of the people 'on the receiving end' as it were. You are unhappy with the timeline notion, as well you might be; language is by definition an imperfect tool. No one is throwing anyoone out here.

Let's try something different. Nassim Haramein sees everything in terms of black holes. We are all individual black holes with an event horizon where we place a notional boundary between me and you, notional becasue we know the universe itself is just one big black hole. Nothing touches yet nothing is separate. We have negative and positive words to describe the same things, negative ones emphasize the separation, positive ones stress the unity. Ego in my view is a negative concept, the ultimate singular being used to describe the ultimate plural. I myself prefer to see an individual as having indivivuality, a person as having personality etc. Asserting one's personality has nothing to do with bursting with ego, it is why we each exist and what we are here to do as a singularity, a unique point of consciousness.

Flash
20th June 2011, 13:47
And yes, I was taken aback by the different timelines: if you are not with me kind of, you are not. This is incredible to me, this is the antithesis of helping others to awaken.

On Gaia, we are all with her, we are all one, the human specie with the nature altogether. How can we throw away people for differing in timelines/ideas/metaphisical experiences/$poverty or richness/race/name it.



Flash

Nice post, thank you.
Let me address this particular section, where I feel like one of the people 'on the receiving end' as it were. You are unhappy with the timeline notion, as well you might be; language is by definition an imperfect tool. No one is throwing anyoone out here.

Let's try something different. Nassim Haramein sees everything in terms of black holes. We are all individual black holes with an event horizon where we place a notional boundary between me and you, notional becasue we know the universe itself is just one big black hole. Nothing touches yet nothing is separate. We have negative and positive words to describe the same things, negative ones emphasize the separation, positive ones stress the unity. Ego in my view is a negative concept, the ultimate singular being used to describe the ultimate plural. I myself prefer to see an individual as having indivivuality, a person as having personality etc. Asserting one's personality has nothing to do with bursting with ego, it is why we each exist and what we are here to do as a singularity, a unique point of consciousness.

My friend, you have a particular talent lately to twist my writing. I am not unhappy with the timelines ideas. I am unhappy with letting others, judged (by themselves or others) as in different timelines, to their fate, without even trying to help. The kind of "you are not in my timeline, therefore you don't exist for me anylonger". And yes, some are using the inner eraser of some others naming, as if in a cult, the timelines differentials as an excuse. imho.

Now, for the separation versus unity, you are right, we are all separate and yet unified. The challenge is to make both work together under a higher self governance.

Ego and personality are one and the same as far as I am concerned. Asserting one personality or one's ego is asserting one's ego, nothing less, nothing more, and it is part of life.

The higher being does need strong egos/personnalities in order to infuse the power of love/light that will be sustained by the individual (which is not an ego, but an individual) strenght.

Unity is part of life on the planet and the universe. Both, unity and individuality should converge to live here in harmony. And, if not directed by the higher self, which we are made to be, then it will result once again in problems as we have now, PTB creation that in fact comes from our own collective and individual ways of thinking/feelig/being.

Balance is of the essence here. Between unity and individuality, based ont higher self guidance to make sure egos accomplish what they were here for to start with, and not go wild and completely out of their original intent as it is the case now. IMHO of course.

The earth knows about this, we do as well, so now lets implement it.

9eagle9
20th June 2011, 14:01
The mention of inexperienced or young souls pings several topics of discourse.

We have no means of meausuring a soul, it is timeless and its meaningless to attempt to determine how young or old it is.

What determines young or old? How many times you've been here? Yeah...but what did you do with the time you were given to paraphrase Gandalf.

However there's experience.But... If you reincarnated 2000 times and sat around with your thumb up your ya ya on all 2000 occasions one may have more experience than someone who only reincarnated 1000 times but made very good use of their time whilst here. For myself i know I spent 5 lifetimes uselessly spinning my wheels locking horns with the being that was my mother in this lifetime, until I came round this time and decided to break that loop this time.

Early on we had means communiticating intimately with the earth. She's held in what could be described as an artifically composed ego. What people venerate as the collective consciousness.....call it collective ego, serves to shroud her in a sort of density that its hard for some to communicate through either way We can break that down by not feeding it anymore and addressing our own woundedness. We are very much reflections of her.

A very long time ago we had very intimate expressions with the earth. Experienced souls who enjoyed that time of free communication bring that information forward with them. Lots of people have them means but its so globbered up with so much BS that what is very simple has become very complex seeming to people. Earth speaks all the time in very obtated ways in the physical and in less denser areas.

The earth has access to dimensions of less denstity, its what she is composed of. What we are all composed of and dwell in. We move beyond the 4d and we feel and see how she's quickly shedding density even as we are creating more with our thought projections.

When you do that get rid of your consious crud --density--you can really see the earth for how she is , it opens up different perceptions and you see other dimensions of her that were right in front of your eyes the whole time. In spite of varying degrees of density she does manage to get her message through in obvious ways. About ten years ago when I had my first shifting episode in public and I was feeling very glum about it all, I was sitting in my garden and this turtle crawled over , a big snapper that was quite a distance from the nearest body of water that they normally inhabit. still they come up onto dry land and move in quite a piece away to lay their eggs so it wasn't all that unusual she was in my garden..It was strange that the turtle manuvuers itself directly between my feet and just starts paddling away a hole to lay her eggs. I sat there for 10 hours without moving just watching her.This simple event was one of the most incredible experiences of my life, and I knew I had been entrusted with something very rare and a sort of convenant had been created ...the turtle is a physical emodiment of the earth in many ancient indengenious cultures. So the turtle entrusted me with her eggs, her children as it were. (i'll not blather on about the correlation between eggs and egos....lol) I later put some chicken wire over the place where she laid them so the coons wouldn't dig them up and i got to see her babies later that fall. And I was led to understand this shifting phenom was more a natural expression of who I am really. Natural, and I was able to see if from a different perspetive.

Because I recognized and honored this event for what it truly is, its become a ritual every year.

For a month my entire focus has been moving an large pile of top soil, (earth work...lol) . Yesterday a turtle was perched on the pile busy laying her eggs, so even though I haven't beein the present the earth still finds a way to get the message through simply by going to where my area of focus is. My yearly reminder and an honor bestowed on me to remind who I am.

13th Warrior
20th June 2011, 14:42
Hi Bill,

Good to hear that you've discovered Gaia/Sophia!

I had a feeling you might return to the mountains...

Peace!

DNA
20th June 2011, 17:10
The mention of inexperienced or young souls pings several topics of discourse.

We have no means of meausuring a soul, it is timeless and its meaningless to attempt to determine how young or old it is.

What determines young or old? How many times you've been here? Yeah...but what did you do with the time you were given to paraphrase Gandalf.

From what I've been exposed to, I think our consciousness has a beginning and an end. I think we are caste out from the Tao, and to the Tao we shall return.

We are immortal, our essense if you will, but our sense of identity is not. Just my opinion. In so far as soul ages are concerned, I truely think we have a finite experience in the realm as a human being.
Some channelled material that rang the most true with me, came from beings who claimed they had recently finished their incarnation cycles as a human and they were off to do other things. Jane Robert's "Seth", Frederick Spencer Oliver's "Phylos" and Chelsea Quinn Yarbro's "Michael"

Soul ages just makes a lot of sense to me is all.
It doesn't just excuse bad behavior in my opinion, it makes it a required course as a physical being.

Tony
20th June 2011, 17:20
All 'soul' are timeless.

Experience is to do with how much conscious awareness has been practised.

Every sentient being has been your mother, conversely you have been everyone
else's mother. They have also run off with your watch!

To say this one first incarnation, does not make sense.

magicmanx
20th June 2011, 17:33
Hi Bill

You have always loved the mountains...long before Avalon and this part of your journey. Have you forgotten those days when Gaia held you in her hands and was your bestest, bested friend with every step you placed on the mountain.

Why are you crying for her now? She held you in her hands every time you climbed all those years before.............

What have you forgotten?................

Where is that happy man I saw in a photo of years gone by? Where is that man today?

I want that man back........ so many of us do............

Is all this worth it?

Climb my friend .........climb. Push yourself to the limit......then sit down........take a breath..............and remember........

There is no greater place to put all into perspective than standing on a mountain so close to the top of the world.

We want to change Gaia.................no! no! no!

She changes us...........

Everyone reading this..............lift your eyes from this computer screen. Go out and feel her spirit....look around you.

ok! ........You cannot climb a mountain in a city?.............

Somewhere ....... so very very close there is a tiny biddy little pebble.....a broken twig........that oh! so magic patch of soil............that pigeon sitting on your window sill.

This is Gaia......for you she may be so small but trust me my angels.....I am the luckiest person in the world.

Every day I can hug the trees....I can watch the flowers bloom.....I can sit each night under the stars and hold them in my hands.

Believe me...........when I do this and I am overwhelmed by my friend Gaia......when it is all too much..........remember.......I am holding and digging my hands in the soil for each and everyone of you. I carress every tree and plant I see. I am sending each and every star I catch your way.

Always know...........whoever you are...........there is someone..........somewhere on this beautiful planet who if nothing else of importance is reminding mamma Gaia and the Universe that each and everyone of you is so....so loved.

Stop trying to hold her in your tiny hands...........change the image. Let her do what she does best.......let her hold you in her heart and in her spirit and in her hands. All you have to do is be quiet......listen and open your eyes. Stretch your hands forth and feel her.

Slip your hand into hers. We come and we go.......she will go on long after we have said good-bye. Stop thinking we will change the world............she.........believe me.....is going to change us.

We are but a grain of sand in the sands of time.

No more .....no less.............

9eagle9
20th June 2011, 17:33
The self ID beginning and end makes perfect sense and seems to fall right into alignment. Its really the self identity getting the work out here in our incarnations.

However many people tend to think of the self idenity as the soul , when its very much influenced by ego constructs. Me personally my higher self expression tends to be way and far away from daily self identity expression.I do self Identify with external things but I'm aware I'm doing it. The same way some people are 'mindful' they are moving in and out of ego navigated modes of expression. But that in itself is the product of learning how to move in and out of different levels of your existence. Over the years that evolved in being able to not let the ego or self identity make judgements about higher self expression, about not self identifying with things external. More important not letting people self ID with me. Thats hard. I've had people approach me in public and chastise me for not expressing the role they've imposed on me via THEIR expectations. "I cant' believe a spiritual person who is all about levels of sacred self expression is sitting in a pub eating a hamburger, smoking, and drinking a beer." As if what I was doing was some reflection on her. But one sees that a lot. People impose a role on you based on their issues, and some people impose roles on themselves based on their issues because they are unclear about self identity.

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my typos are vile today, I'm having to use IE and there's no word checker, my apologies...

9eagle9
20th June 2011, 18:07
Nope , in the context of what is eternal having a first incarnation doesn't make sense. One would be assinging a value of time to which is timeless..

In the context of consiousness it could. Self identification plays in again. It needs time where as that which is forever the only place you can be in is in the present bringing us back to many different levels of existence again. The timeless one or the one where are running out of time, on time, first time, last time..lol. Timelines themselves are constructs that one can surmount as well and rather doen't make any sense to me either. On another level they are just another matrixy construct.

Duality traps.


All 'soul' are timeless.

Experience is to do with how much conscious awareness has been practised.

Every sentient being has been your mother, conversely you have been everyone
else's mother. They have also run off with your watch!

To say this one first incarnation, does not make sense.

Etherios
20th June 2011, 18:35
I almost cried after reading this... thank you Bill and Inelia. I hope the light keeps you safe and strong.

This remind me of "Final Fantasy The Spirit Within" HERE (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0173840/)

Very similar approach to Gaia ... I dont know if there are any hidden msgs but this shows very well the foolishness of humans and the connection we all have with everything...

Mother
20th June 2011, 20:52
Yes...Inelia sent me this message too, through her site´s newsletter. I must say, for a moment, I didn´t know what to do with it; you know, I love Inelia - I´m about to travel for two days to give her and Bill a hug - but, to be honest, I was kind of angry for some minutes. I thought: well, she is certainly feeling all the pain, all the suffering, but at least she is awake, she´s got some particular, undoubtable conection with the source, she knows for sure what is gong on, she can actually feel the answers, she does not depend on faith to know, she even claimed that "we´re gonna make it", at the interview! And even so, she cryes. What about the millions who has no answer inside, who receive no direct contact explaining things to them, who have lost all the sense of hope? They don´t expect for ET´s, Gods, governments, gurus...they don´t expect a single hand...And I would not be surprised if they´d try to beat to death in case one told them " you´ve gotta take the responsability", or something like that.

And so I was thinking "what should I do with this message?" Should I thank Inelia? Should I immediatly meditate on Love, for 10 minutes? Should I comfort her? Should I spread it through the internet? After all, it´s a Call for Action...

Then, I realized that it´s a call for an internal action. For her, too. Inelia says the only way to "do her job" in earth is through human experience. And so, right now, she is being reminded of her human condition, as we all. Maybe, if we take too much distance, we stop feeling the pain, the suffering; we don´t listen Gaia cry, anymore. Maybe, trying to get ascension or whatever, we feel to much enlightened, and we loose conection with those who lost their awareness (And what is the point on being awake when everybody esle is sleeping?).

Now Bill is calling us to take the responsability; well, we don´t take responsability when we don´t feel it, inside, deep inside. I´m wandering if I am able to get in touch with all the pain, in order to take my responsability. Should I give up my defenses? Should I not comfort myself thinking that "things will shift, eventually, but it´s not for me to take such a huge job - I´ll let this to beings like Inelia, who have powers, and no doubts "...

I guess Inelia is experiencing that the more limited human she feels, the more powerless, when she allows the voices to penetrate her human heart, the best her higher self responds, the best her "job" can be accomplished. And this is for all of us: we don´t need special powers, we don´t need validation, we don´t need external ordering to raise our hearts and souls. Getting in touch with the pain, is the best way to release it.

Much love, everybody, tks for sharing!

cellardoor
20th June 2011, 22:07
Claiming our sovereignty, involves claiming supreme, independent authority over our reality, both inner and outer. It is our divine right. To be a loving imbodyment and shining example of empowerment for those around us, to unconditionaly love nurture, and protect gods creation is the duty, we so lovingly accepted then so easaly forgot. As more and more of us incorparate our higher selves the, manifestation of reallity is changing. It is a birthing of a new consciousness, and as with all births there is an element of suffering. Luckily for us we have the most amazing midwives! This does not take away from the fact that we will be born as full sovereign beings. Fully accepting that our state of concsiousness is our reallity, as one, as decreed. Of course there is choice, but would one chose to swim against a torrent of love and light? It is manifesting, we are here, aware, conscious, yearning for change, like a seedling breaking the top soil experiencing the light and birsting forth into brilliance. It's a privelage to be amongst you all. thank you Bill

Flash
20th June 2011, 22:52
Those of us who have been here for many lifetimes have the opportunity now to balance our karma at long last and take the next step with Gaea beyond 3 D experiencing.
The meek, who, trusting in the Process, surrendered to experiencing all the various guises of victim and oppressor, villain and hero, creator and destroyer, will reap the reward and "inherit the Earth". We will have the peaceful home on our beloved planet we have worked toward for so long, though at times, it may have seemed we were striving for the exact opposite.
But experiencing opposites is the point of dualistic 3D, and so, understanding this, we can forgive ourselves and others for our "bad karma".
And we can forgive those blind and fearful ones who have lost their way in the darkness, knowing that we too, may have walked in their shoes at some point. They too will find their way in time, and it is not up to us to decide when or how that might come about, though we may offer them our compassion and Light their way as we can.

Many of us experienced the heartbreak of the Fall of Atlantis and those feelings are coming up for us again now. But we learned much from that dress rehearsal. The Phoenix will rise from the ashes, never again to repeat the same mistakes.

This I believe.

That was a really nice post onawah, the part about the phoenix rising really resonated with me.

I'd just like to add that pain is nothing to be feared but embraced, in buddhism they have a formula for spiritual growth:

Pain x equanimity = spiritual purification

this is how the whole idea of flaggelation came about, purposefully inflicting pain upon yourself so that you can have equanimity over it and ultimately quicken your own purification. Quite a misguided concept really but whatever floats their boat I suppose.
anyway, I had the opportunity to put this theory to the test about 4 years ago after getting into an accident one night and breaking my jaw, I had to go under general anaesthetic so they could slice through the main jaw nerve and screw a titanium plate in their to hold the shattered jaw together.
After the operation they advised me to go on a morphine drip for the pain but I refused since I was still high from the anaesthetic at the time and the pain wasn't all that noticeable, I felt confidant i could make it through the night in relative comfort. As the hours passed by though and the sedatives began to wear off this indescribable pain started to fill my awareness, unbearable, unimaginable, I can't even begin to describe how intense it was, makes me shudder and cringe just thinking about it.

Luckily though i was already aware of the Buddhist formula for spiritual purification so out of desperation I wholeheartedly flung myself into equanimity meditation...it took me deep, so deep it was like the entire fabric of space time ripped open, out in front of me there was a black hole in the centre of my vision, just pure emptiness... yet within the emptiness I began to see a stirring... images, visions, insights began to pour through...i got to watch a few past lives as though watching a movie on a screen out in front of me, only small snippets of information and scenes quickly passing by but enough to get an intuitive idea of what was going on and enough to completely bring about a new paradigm shift regarding awareness, life and the universe...that experience changed my life, altered my perceptions and enhanced my attitude towards the world, my job changed, my friends changed and I started spending more and more time with more spiritually inclined people, bringing a greater sense of harmony, insight and connectedness throughout every aspect of my life.

I later found out that spot in my vision where the black whole had tore through the fabric of reality is what modern optometrists call the blind spot, our ancient ancestors including people like Leonardo da vinci and other illuminated masters called that 'the vision of cosmic intelligence spot', apparantly there is a postage stamp sized set of neurons behind the visual cortex of the right eye connecting to the right hemisphere of the brain, which when activated is dedicated to being able to see through the 3D world into the ultimate awareness and when you can learn to access it you literally get to see through time and space...being able to witness not only your past lives but all your future lives as well, as easily as though your watching a movie on a movie screen...makes it easy to understand how so many prophecies of 2012 came into being, these people of old could literally see the lives they were living right now in our modern times as they moved through this great cosmic change of ascension.

I guess the moral of the story would be that Gaea has the most profound unconditional love for everything that takes place within her creation, she has a level of equanimity beyond anything even the most accomplished humanly Buddhas could have experienced, as long as we can all remain in equanimity over the pain while working on harnessing the brilliance of our own inner light and our own inner passions then when the pain becomes unbearable all that will happen is the tear in space time will occur and the download will begin to take place, the fractures have already begun to open, we're already going through the shift as everyone on here who is aware enough can identify with it from their own experience. The idea that this won't all turn out for the best is so far removed from my reality that when i look out on the euphoric beauty that is Gaea, in whatever form she may be taking at the time...all I ever see back is a smile of the greatest Joy and serenity as she knows exactly what is about to take place.

most people see breaking a few bones or going through tremendous pain as an experience to be shut down with medication, drugs or anaesthetics...in reality it's the embracing of pain, understanding it and learning from it and forgiving it that is going to lead us into our planetary salvation. I look back on breaking my jaw as being the greatest gift ever to be bestowed on me, I transformed my karma by burning it off in the crucible of equanimity, we need to do the same with the pain of the planet, always remembering to shine our light as brightly as humanly possible, spread our joy, spirit and divinity to anyone who is open enough to listen and allow the phoenix to rise and soar from the flames.

Beautiful posts, both of you.

Rocky_Shorz
20th June 2011, 23:03
peeks over Bill's shoulder to see what he is working on...

:gossip::pop2::pop2::pop2::behindsofa:


Transformation... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23322-Focusing-The-Transformational-Lens&p=248178#post248178)

Rosco1
20th June 2011, 23:18
The time has come for ALL of us to act.

If each and everyone of us could help in some small or large way, then we would certainly be on the way to a more loving and peaceful world.

Whatever jobs we hold, then stop serving the agenda! (banking, military, government, etc).

Adults in the military need to lay down their weapons and go home and serve your community with your family or friends.

Serve your community and NOT the military etc.

For the forestry workers – lay down your chainsaws and give Mother Nature a break!

Start loving yourself, family, friends, neighbours and people in your community.

Stop paying so much for goods/food and instead use the age old tradition of bartering or/and growing your own produce.

People need to slow down, look around you and see who is suffering, neglected and in need of warmth/hugs and understanding.

Dedicate part of your holidays to helping those less fortunate than yourselves ( the rewards certainly outweigh what you would have normally done in it's place).

We have friends in high places watching over us and hoping we can pull this off by ourselves. (they do help behind the scenes, but we must pull together as a whole and help ourselves and Gaia in the process).

The 'Calling and pain' will not go away and will only get louder and louder until we have no choice but to ACT!

Now sending Love and Healing to Everyone who reads these forums!

TOTHE
21st June 2011, 00:21
A Brocken Specter with a hat? That has to be a first, Bill.

After reading "The Cry of Gaia" I think I should talk to Her too...it is time to for me to sit on a rock. A good batholith should do, one of the one's that was moved 13,000 years ago from Canada when the ice last melted. I know of one 20 foot high in the woods along a 2.6 mile trail to the "Blue Ledges" of the Hudson River. Time for a batholith's consciousness should be 5 minutes per 13,000 years (half a precession, say from about Virgo). About 14 years ago I sat on this thing and got a "reverent buzz" (not the mosquitoes) and all that confused wishy-washy stuff. At that time I was not into all this New Age with a fully calcified pineal gland with fluoride, lead, mercury and arsenic. But after reading David Wilcock's torsion field research and various books on chakras I am going to give it another try. I am going to be communicating love with either myself, a rock or Gaia. :-)
Gosh, all you Lightwokers have it easy, with all the hard learned tools and getting results right in front of you. If I do connect with the Source or Gaia, they will probably say "Stop, you don't need all these fancy tools, get on with experiencing your evolution in this life with love, compassion and respect of life for all things created from matter..and it will be reflected back to you..for in that way you find all the grace and answers you seek."

Then to visuialize my favorite non-petition prayer as already answered toward restoring long lost empowrerment back to the Human Collective.

Last contact closing prayer from The Spokesman of The Nine Principals of The Universe, 1991.

From the Council of Nine
for the Nations of Earth

We pray that the nations of the Earth come to peace within themselves and come to recognize
whence they came.

We pray that all the civilizations of the Universe that are engaged in the balancing of the
Universe, be given strength and peace within, to carry on the work to which they are committed.

We pray that the physical beings of the planet Earth come into a state of awareness and
understanding, in order for their souls to evolve, to raise the level of the planet Earth and to
cleanse the heavens around the planet Earth so that the Universe can progress.

We pray that those beings and civilizations that are opposing what we do come to the light of
understanding, so that they also come into perfect balance.

We pray that the day may soon come when all in the Universe have the knowledge and the
understanding that will make them whole.

We pray for understanding among ourselves, and for the strength that is needed so that each of
us can guide the others to become perfect beings.

We pray for the souls of the children of the Earth to be brought out of the dark and into the light.

Davidallany
21st June 2011, 01:29
Bill, you're the man!

Calz
21st June 2011, 05:03
Bouncing this post from several months ago from the "Up at the Ranch" thread.

Seems appropriate:



From James ~

#6081 Conversations with Gaia

"I had a conversation with Gaia. We speak often. I told her stop telling me about
all the insane actions of man, what they are doing to you and the consequences.
She asked why? I said because the Powers that Be get real angry at exposing
their reckless greed, the new agers get angry, call me doom and gloomer then
blame me after the event for creating it. The whole world pretty much thinks I
am crazy and the herd consciousness does not want any interruptions in their
status quo or change. The fundamentalists think you don't exist and I am devil
worshipping with no responsibility or accountability for their choices and
actions. They blame God or the devil for everything. It seems the modern world
has lost all connection, respect and empathy to the very source that gave them
form.

Gaia said; This is true but there is a solution.

I asked what is the solution?

Gaia said; I will shake all their beliefs and misperceptions along with the
Creator which comes in many forms they worship or ignore altogether. They will
experience the reactions to their actions, the consequences of their choices,
the fallacies of their beliefs. The world they created will come to an end. A
new world will take its place. What is out of alignment with universal law, what
is self-serving, what is harmful to humanity and the earth will come to an end.

I asked Gaia; I understand universal law, action/reaction and karma yet these
mega corporations and the scientific oligarchy now controlling the masses are so
embedded, humanity is so infected and willing participants in actions against
even themselves and the planet how will this unfold? These psychopaths have
weapons to generate massive quakes, manipulate weather, mind control, and their
lust for power and wealth is insatiable even if it means their own demise. They
are guilty of so many despicable acts now the people have become the enemy
because if the people knew what they have done and are doing surely they would
hang. How will this be addressed?

Gaia said: In their cleverness they have forgot wisdom. The cleverness comes
from the ego that thinks it can outwit the soul. The soul will always create the
conditions and lessons to bring the ego back into alignment with the soul. The
soul is in alignment with spirit. The spirit is the Creator and is omnipresent
within all Creation. There is no escape from the soul and the lessons just as
there is no escape from the mother who gave of herself for the form to exist.
That form can be taken away at any time if the ego and the form have become
completely disconnected from spirit. This will happen individually and
collectively.

I asked; Why does it seem to take so long before action/reaction or karma to
kick in. If allowed to go on these psychopaths will kill the very platform for
life taking a lot of good people with them?
Gaia said: I am not alone in the multiverse. Great beings are observing on many
levels. Neither they nor I will allow this. Some grand lessons will come along
with some grand teachers. The world the controllers have created is not
sustainable; it is unnatural, void of spirit and out of alignment with universal
law. The action/reaction and principle you call karma will be accelerated. There
will be a quickening. What took years will take moments. I will shake, blow,
wash, burn do what ever it takes to cleanse. The Sun will also do what ever is
necessary to end the network and foundation of tyranny. There are other great
beings and energies at play; which have been known for millennia; which will
also come into play and I too shall go through a grand rebirth. It is part of my
evolution and those who listen and are connected to me will evolve very rapidly
to the next level. They will flow with these changes. Not all will make this
shift for they have chosen a different path.

I asked; Why are you telling me this? We are back to the same problem. The
beast and those who serve the beast get angry about being told their future. The
new agers get angry when telling them about what will be necessary to bring
about the demise of the beast accusing me of creating it or being a doom and
gloomer. The hypnotized status quo does not want change or the status quo to go
uninterrupted. The fundamentalists will say I am talking to the devil. It seems
but a handful will understand and act on this message.

Gaia said: I will speak from here on out and in some cases very loudly with an
undeniable voice. If you feel guided and it is appropriate you can speak for me
for we are very close. Just know what you have spoken will come to past despite
their beliefs and attachments. I am moving forward in my evolution they can join
me or go the way of the beast. If they are going to join me they must learn to
listen, live in harmony with each other and nature. All other paths will come to
an end.

So it will be"

James Gilliland www.eceti.org
www.bbsradio.com

Hervé
21st June 2011, 05:54
Finally got what was wrong with "my" picture! Misconstrued from a distorted history and prehistory as found in books as well as from misdirecting religions... understanding why the "Neanderthals' never left any "traces of civilization" and why they are back (see Graham Hancock last book).

Whether looking outside or inside for an answer, it still was a misplaced point of view... from the reality of being completely and entirely encompassed by a bigger being where one has to feel one's way.

A matrix of a different essence than the one we are being sold. More like that vast ocean a fish swims in...

What a sigh of relief!

Carmen
21st June 2011, 06:22
Sometimes the beings of Gaia acknowledge how we feel about them in unusual ways. Im am particularly fond of hares. We have many of them on the farm and the surrounding roads. A while ago a nightshooter rode up our road and shot hares. Not to consume them, just shot them and left them there! I was quite angry about this and sad to lose hares unecessarily. They are such querky animals and dont breed like bunnies so they dont overpopulate. Anyway, last week I was coming home from a weekend away and as I turned into our road, there was a hare in the middle of the road which proceeded to escort me up the road. I went quite slow because I didnt want to run over him then I decided to stop to hopefully get him to go off the side of the road. He also stopped and sat on his haunches waiting for me to proceed. When I did he carried on his escort service to the bridge where he finally left the road. We would have gone at least half a mile!! I did feel that it was an acknowledgement of my guardianship, I would suppose you would call it , of the hare population in my area.

Eric J (Viking)
21st June 2011, 09:57
Phew! ...2 great posts ... within 2 days...

I feel we are changing the paradigm as we speak...

Again, thanks again B & I

The World is our oyster...

Lets do it.

viking

stegosaur
21st June 2011, 19:45
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/732/882/Buddha_s_Light_Shines_Near_Chongqing.html

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/images/stories/large/2011/06/20/1106191833281119--ss.jpg

Just found this story on the internet... apparently Gaia is showing these rare events to others around the world too.

Exciting times indeed!

perljen
21st June 2011, 21:01
----

Most readers will know that Gaia is most often associated with the term coined by the ecologist James Lovelock to describe the coherent, complex, balanced, living entity of Planet Earth in all its natural richness.

I (Bill) had always taken this as a metaphor – until I met Inelia. And so I tell this little story which follows against myself. To Inelia, it was self-evident that Gaia was a magnificent, fully sentient, godlike being. And when talking about this with me, she did what she often does when words are inadequate: she invited me to take her hands while she gave me a download of direct perception.

This she did: and I immediately perceived Gaia, a huge, eon-ancient entity that is our planet and all her multitudinous natural habitats. It was enormous, and strong, and solid, and eternal. I could feel her power. It was something literally awesome. I shall never forget that moment of first encounter. No doubt exists for me now about Gaia’s conscious reality.


http://projectavalon.net/avatar-pandora.jpg


Gaia talks to Inelia all the time. And last month, when in Switzerland, I was inspired to ask for a direct communication. Staying for weeks in a small hotel room waiting for my US visa to be issued, I decided to take an afternoon out to climb a mountain.

I used to climb a lot of mountains, but this time I took the mountain railway to the summit. I’d been cooped up for weeks, and I expanded my awareness in gratitude and appreciation at the marvelous natural environment of rocks, trees and alpine meadows which we were passing through on the train. I am a mountain man to my roots, and I deeply love this kind of terrain.

Near the summit, the mist swirled around me as I climbed the rocks to the very top. And suddenly, feeling connected with Gaia, I had a wild thought. I said to myself, as if in prayer: “Gaia, if you can hear me, show me a Brocken Specter.”

Now, a Brocken Specter is a spectacular natural phenomenon which requires a precisely coordinated combination of sun, clouds, atmospherics and moisture. It consists of a huge shadow of oneself projected on the clouds below, surrounded by a rainbow halo. They’re very rare: in all my time in the mountains, years and countless expeditions all over the world, I have seen only a handful of Brocken Specters.

And suddenly, within maybe a minute and a half, one suddenly appeared. There it was. I spent half an hour filming it, in various stages of awe and disbelief. I was staggered. As in the movie Avatar, I found myself thinking: “Eywa has heard me.”


http://bill.inelia.com/images/stories/brocken_specter.jpg



That was over a month ago, in Europe. And now, we cut to today, in Sacramento, California. I had not seen Inelia for a couple of days, and she came round to see me towards the end of a very busy afternoon. It was wonderful to see her, as always. And as I gave her a hug, she collapsed in tears in my arms.

I looked at her, and held her hands, not knowing what was the matter.

She looked back at me, eyes brimming. “I can hear the cry”, she said. “It’s getting louder. I can’t bear it. It’s overwhelming.”

I looked at her intently, realizing. “The cry of the collective, and Gaia”, she said. “All the people, animals, all the plants, all the trees. There’s so much pain, so much suffering, so much violence. I feel it all. I hear it all. Every minute of every day. It never stops. I can’t stand it. And it’s getting louder all the time.”

She looked at me, asking me to understand. And I did. Like many humans, I’m a hypocrite: that means that I compartmentalize my experience for convenience. I wear a leather hat, and eat as much meat as I can. But I cannot bring myself to kill even a mosquito. I genuinely regard all living things as sacred. I have a dictum that I must never destroy anything I can’t create - which is why I save mosquitoes. Yet I deny my participation as a cavalier consumer.

Meanwhile, Inelia was directly experiencing the pain of Gaia. Through tears of compassion, she talked of the blind unawareness of the men in the slaughterhouses, the chemical farmers, the factory fishermen, the destroyers of the rainforests, the creators of wars. Those men and women who torture and kill millions of people, animals and trees every day. Those that think animals and trees don’t feel pain, fear, and terror, or relish the thought of inflicting these on the vulnerable. Those who deliver psychic and physical attacks to others.

Deeply moved, and in response, I read to her the opening paragraph of Thom Hartmann’s masterwork, The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight: (http://www.amazon.com/Last-Hours-Ancient-Sunlight-Revised/dp/1400051576)



In the 24 hours since this time yesterday, over 200,000 acres of rainforest have been destroyed in our world. Fully 13 million tons of toxic chemicals have been released into our environment. Over 45,000 people have died of starvation, 38,000 of them children. And more than 130 plant or animal species have been driven to extinction by the actions of humans. (The last time there was such a rapid loss of species was when the dinosaurs vanished.) And all this just since yesterday.
I was brought up in Africa. I’ve spent my life exploring wild places. Inelia has deep connections with sacred land in her native Chile, and a few years ago was brave enough to sail round Cape Horn in a small boat. When she was a little girl, she would pick hummingbirds off the branches of trees, and they would let her hold them in her tiny hands. They knew who she was; and they knew that they would not be harmed.


http://www.martawilliams.com/images/HummingBird1.jpg


Still through her tears of Gaia’s suffering, Inelia told me a story about violence and anger. Years ago, she had a German Shepherd, which had caught its paw in a metal gate. The dog was beside itself with anger and pain. Its head whipped backwards and forwards, snapping at anyone who tried to get near as it struggled to free itself.

Inelia walked up to it and held it firmly, but to get to its paw she had to put her arm between its jaws and the gate. In its pain it sank its teeth into her arm – which Inelia permitted it to do. Then after the paw was free, Inelia held the dog’s jaws tight, as it continued trying to bite. She held it against the ground firmly but gently. It calmed down - and she was able to release it, knowing it would no longer bite those around him. The wound in her arm healed without scars.


http://projectavalon.net/german-shepherd.jpg


The moral of the story? Humans, too, lash out in anger and violence, because they are in great pain and fear. “I’d like to hold them all in my arms”, said Inelia. “All of them. I’d like to show them that they are loved, and that they are safe. All the murderers, all the rapists, all the butchers of the seals, whales and dolphins, all the bloodthirsty workers in the abattoirs, the creators of wars.”

I listened to Inelia stating clearly through her tears that all violent men needed was love, safety and compassion. I suggested, attempting to reassure, that what she stated so eloquently in her video interview was sufficient:



“I only have one job. And that’s to raise the vibrational level of the planet, including the human collective, which is part of the planet, to a critical point that will allow a transition into the new paradigm, a new level of awareness for everything. For the planet and every being in it. Every rock, every insect, every person. And that’s my only job. And I will do anything to achieve that.”
Meaning: that if we raise the level of awareness of what Inelia calls the ‘collective’ – the group-mind and collective consciousness of the human race – then the murderers, rapists, polluters and destroyers will all be dragged along in the same collective direction – they HAVE to swim in the same rushing, accelerating river as the rest of us. In that way we are all connected… and with some of us leading the way, the rest will follow: even those humans with the morals and awareness of crocodiles.

But to Inelia, this was not enough. How to maximize the effect? How to reach those unreachable people? How to halt the pain and damage as soon as possible? How to educate the uneducable? How to release THEIR paw from the metal gate? Lovingly stop THEM from biting, and removing all gates where their paws might get caught?

Who will read these words we’re writing here? Not the killers and destroyers. We’re surely preaching to the converted: having read thus far, you’re almost certain to be in strong agreement.

My own answer is as follows.

Rupert Sheldrake brought us the concept of Morphic Fields and Morphic Resonance. Lynne McTaggart described ‘The Field’ in her best-selling book of the same name. We have an intuitive understanding of the Hundred Monkey syndrome, and of Tipping Points in general.

My personal strong feeling is we have to assume that, like blowing up an airbed (gradually, with an inefficient handpump), some corners of the mattress will inflate before others. When doing this, it almost always seems that nothing is ever going to happen – until a tipping point is reached and the rapidly inflating mattress all suddenly picks up and takes the desired shape as if by magic.

I think we’re in that kind of position now. The mattress doesn’t yet look like a mattress, and it seems as if it’s never going to inflate. We might think it looks hopeless. But soon – I do believe – things may start to feel different.

I want to say a word about ‘Ascension’ – and how the word is often misunderstood and misapplied. Some people really do think that they will literally ‘ascend’ out of here – as in some kind of ‘beam-me-up’ ‘rapture’ or rescue, possibly at the hands of helpful ETs or angelic beings.

In my strong view, this is escapist wishful thinking. Any kind of get-me-outta-here-Scotty mindset is actually failing to take responsibility – certainly for those of us who have been here many lifetimes and who have in one way or another contributed to the mess we’re in. Many of us reading this have been here on Planet Earth for quite a while – and we have to face what we have done: we have to square up to what we’ve permitted to occur in our name.

If we’re here to fix all this – which it’s very clear to me that we are – then we HAVE TO face what we’ve done. There’s no easy escape, and certainly no rescue. Rather, there’s a massive clean-up job waiting for people, tools, resources and organization to get started on… together.


http://projectavalon.net/Niger_2.jpg


It may take several generations. Maybe many generations. But it’s do-able. Not just to repair the damage, but to educate the human race in understanding finally that we must live in balance and harmony with Gaia – or else we merely imperil ourselves. (Gaia will always be all right. She’s been around for several billion years, and is probably only half way through her lifespan as the Guardian-Goddess of this exquisitely beautiful planet.)

But there’s the real risk – for us, not for her – that if we do not learn the lessons that are for the taking, right here in front of our noses (and our wallets) - we may flunk the class and be destroyed. It could all happen terribly easily. And the choice is ours: collectively ours.

In my personal view, this is one of the key significances of the 2012 Tipping Point. 21 December 2012 is a distraction. The real significance of the year (certainly not one standalone day in that year) is that if we as the collective human race make the right choices, it will not be too late to re-create the balanced dynamic paradise that Planet Earth could be for all living things – and for mankind itself.

And if we make the wrong choices, our children may have a very rough time of it indeed. They would rightly blame their parents for not doing what they could when they had all the information available to them.

So guess what: it’s all about Free Will. Should we be surprised that the equation distills down to this again?


http://projectavalon.net/vulture-child_sm.jpg


Here are Inelia’s own words in conclusion:

It is not about who’s to blame. The solution has to be inclusive. Yes, we take responsibility in minimizing the pain and suffering of others through our actions. We eat meat from small farms, organic producers who love their animals. Yes, we buy furniture from renewable sources of wood, clothes from factories which don’t exploit people. But what of the perpetrators of fear and pain? We might hold them in our field of light, and allow Gaia to do her work. As a ‘singularity’ – I am but one person. But WE are many.

If we dedicate 10 minutes a day to holding these people in our collective light, it can make a huge shift for them and us. After the 10 minutes, let us focus on the compassion and love of the millions of lightworkers and lightwarriors around the planet, our brethren, so that our collective power increases -- making each one of us more able to accomplish our collective work.

I also feel the love, light and compassion of billions of people around the world. All those parents who hold their new born baby in wonderment and deep love, all those who behold our Mother Earth in awe as they sense Her power and compassion. I also feel millions of lightworkers and lightwarriors diligently doing daily acts of selfless love and compassion to bring light to others and the planet.

For every murderer there are 10 healers, for every abuser of animals, there are a thousand who hold animals in respect and equality. For every creator of war, there are millions of us who do not agree with that particular game.

If I didn't feel the LIGHT I would not be alive today. Mother Earth made the call for assistance, and we, all of us, are the answer to that call.


Bill and Inelia
17-18 June 2011


http://projectavalon.net/safe_in_our_hands.jpg







Thank you both for such vivid and varied totalities expressed in heart,words and photos. I am personally deeply affected and I say 'thank you' once again. perljen

LadyFae
22nd June 2011, 08:14
Taking responsibility and the freedom of choice. Very fragile.

And what a great article this is. Thank you so much for sharing and again thank you for allowing me to be here.

LadyFae
22nd June 2011, 08:18
Wow, that's awesome!!! Thanks for finding and sharing.

the_flyingboy
22nd June 2011, 10:27
Hi Bill loved your thread very touching,whatt i wanted to ask is about GAIA.....is GAIA the ancient greek goddess mother earth? GAIA coming from the greek work earth.

Anchor
22nd June 2011, 22:38
(Had some fun with this little dramatisation..)


Scene… Bill wandering along a mountainous landscape, (again…)

Bill: Wow, I love it out here, just me and nature, and I guess Gaia

Gaia: Wonder no more!

Bill: Gaia, is that you?

Gaia: None other dude!

Bill: I don’t know, I kind of need to check my sources

Gaia: Whose voice am I using in your head?

Bill: Mmmm, sounds a bit like me, doesn’t help – sorry. I know, it’s a great day, if you are real, how about you show me a Brocken Spectre!

Gaia: A Brocken what???

Bill: You know, one of those shadow things, I’m thinking of it

Gaia: STOP! if you do that, how will you know its me and not you doing this?

Bill: ahh, quite, I see your point.

Gaia: Hang on I’ll google it….

Bill: you can do that!

Gaia: he he he, damn Google is slow today…. Neat banner… ahhhh I see – amazing what you humans like, I see – here you go….

<ping>

Bill: WOW <adjusts hat, gets camera out>

DeDukshyn
22nd June 2011, 23:59
I used to live in the woods as a child (sort of - I had no friends, I had nature). I was one with life. The story brought me back to ... feelings? hard to describe ... feelings I haven't experienced since then, felt again now .. thanks. :)

Fred Steeves
23rd June 2011, 14:18
----



She looked back at me, eyes brimming. “I can hear the cry”, she said. “It’s getting louder. I can’t bear it. It’s overwhelming.”

I looked at her intently, realizing. “The cry of the collective, and Gaia”, she said. “All the people, animals, all the plants, all the trees. There’s so much pain, so much suffering, so much violence. I feel it all. I hear it all. Every minute of every day. It never stops. I can’t stand it. And it’s getting louder all the time.”



Well, gotta be honest here. Until yesterday there wasn't much of this thread for me to relate to. It was then I stumbled across a thread by TWINCANS in the spiritual section for a healing meditation for corn because of GMO's. I lightheartedly went to give a Matrix Energetics 2-point for the situation, and was immediately grabbed holf of like electricity will do, it wasn't going to let go. There was no doubt this was Gaia herself, and she wasn't letting go until she downloaded her story, which is about exactly as Inelia describes above.

It WAS unbearable, (and Inelia, if you feel this all the time I don't know how you do it) like a slow motion, drawn out scream of utter agony. And she is desperate for this condition to be known. She DOES NOTwant to be forced to hurt us to make us stop. There were tears rolling down my eyes most of the day, even in Home Depot, even now just writing this. It was an experience that I'll never forget, and I'll never be quite the same. I make no claims to be a psychic, but this planet IS a living, sentient being. It was as real as holding the hand of your spouse.

Anybody out there (you know who you are) who likes to tease, scoff, and discredit people who talk of these things, I say go right ahead. But, if it happens to you, and I hope it does, you won't be laughing for long...Trust me on that one...

Thanks Bill and Inelia, it's not easy to put yourself out there like that.


Cheers,
Fred

Davy
23rd June 2011, 16:08
Thanks Bill for this enlightening post, i have recently discovered my connectivity with the earth, nature, and everything alive around me, It is such a wonderful felling to sit out on my back porch, and listen to the wind, the birds, the squirels,my dogs, cats, to feel the wind blow across my face to see the Ora of plants and to know that all of these are energies are alive and that we as human beings have got to see all these things and we are to take care of them all. I had a wonderful friend tell me years ago as He has passed on now, but that He said that we dont own anything in life it is all from God and That we are stewards of God entrusted to take care of and be the best stewards we can for everything we have been intrusted with while we are here on this Earth,,, Rock taught me about not killing even a spider because it was just as important as us. And I will never forget what He taught me!

Thanks again Bill for everything you have done, and what you are doing!

onawah
23rd June 2011, 16:50
Regarding the age or maturity of an individual soul, there is a lot of information at
http://www.michaelteachings.com/m-chat.html
and other sites featuring the Michael Teachings that makes very good sense regarding this and related subjects.
I've know people who have studied this material in great depth and had readings from Michael channellers and it really checked out as accurate for them in their personal lives.
The different soul ages are explained thoroughly, as well as chosen focuses for each soul's individual expression, purpose, and so on.
Although souls are eternal, the stages they go through when in 3D have very well defined, observable characteristics. After many lifetimes in 3D, souls graduate to the subtler realms, and can also return to 3D as spiritual teachers, mentors, etc.
How a soul expresses itself in terms of maturity can also depend on how long it has been inhabiting a particular world, as interplanetary cultures can vary greatly.
According to the entity Michael, everyone belongs to a soul group, and there is also a great deal of information about how that works.
It's all descriptive, and therefore somewhat limited as are all things intellectual, but I think there is a lot of good information there and worth looking at.
I like the idea that an "oversoul", when it begins the process of incarnating, fragments itself into many individual units which then, through many lifetimes of experiencing, learn and grow and eventually reunite to create a unified soul of much greater knowledge, wisdom and power.
I believe that is also a theme in the Seth Material.

Jan Williams
23rd June 2011, 20:41
That was so wonderful for me to read, I'm so with you about mother earth, she so needs my input daily, some times i have felt so small, as i try so hard to make a difference.....But of late something has happen to me,
that i'm being carried and have direction, i'm not sure to where or how but i know that it's not important that i do know! I do know that i have complete faith in the universal energy, and as long i have great respect for it,
in turn it respects me!! I have A huge Gratitude and express it each day for this amazing universe and what it delivers to us all!! Thanks Bill and Inelia...

Ian Gordon
23rd June 2011, 20:41
My first post so be gentle !! but reading this my personal view is we simply forget the power thats in our hands to heal and make a difference to Gaia and hence ourselves. I believe that those that we feel we cannot reach know too, the ones most distracted and perhaps most in need.
Like the primary school teacher with a talkative class, she holds her finger to her lips and is quiet, shortly the class pays attention and is quiet, a simple action a good example and everyone follows........perhaps it is time to stand up and by our actions become the teachers for the world, and perhaps even the most mischeavious child will follow. The journey begins.

Eva2
24th June 2011, 00:58
Amazing and uplifting photo - keep gazing at it.

Karma Ngedom
24th June 2011, 04:16
Angry emotions, weeping emotions do not help, they are only temporary events.
When realising our true nature and the true nature of the emotions, wisdom is found.
When wisdom is realised, karma can begin to be exhausted.

There is a much of work to be done, constantly. Not just ten minutes a day.

Truly, love to you all,

Tony

But..... for many, 10 mins a day is a beginning, a place to go, a training to do. Mostly if those 10 mins are dedicated for merit of those most submerged in confusion, pain, anger and not knowing of things... Soon they will become 15 mins or more... or maybe we can learn to walk in our everyday aware of the pain (even if it is an illussion) that takes a hold of everyone.
Just an idea
Intent... Love (not the mushy type):decision:

Karma Ngedom
24th June 2011, 04:25
Is it just me who finds all this shockingly childish and sentimental?

No doubt I shall receive a shower of abuse for saying this... ;)

Lots of love
Tarka

No.
No showers of abuse for Tarka the duck - just love. Love for Tarka the duck.
Feeeeeel the love Tarka, feeeeeel the love - and mend thy ways.

;)

Dear Teakai

I feel it! Ooooo, I feel it! Much appreciated and welcomed...but if you mean by "mend thy ways" that I should go against a sincere and heartfelt instinct that something is false and contrived, then I am afraid I cannot oblige.

Unless, of course, there is only one belief system permitted on this forum, in which case, I shall bow out gracefully...

Much love - and respect

Tarka
hahahahahahahaah. I love you guys!!!!!! Propose Tarka, propose!!!! I.m listening!!!

Ernie Nemeth
24th June 2011, 04:32
Bill and Inelia, such a great story and a mesmerizing photo.

I, too, have been having strange disturbances while meditating. The distressful emotional energy seems to come from below me and I have not been able to understand its source, especially since my chakras are clear. Now I think I know what it might be. Thanks for opening my eyes.

I will try and connect with this energy and see where it leads.

Peace

Donna O
24th June 2011, 21:16
An excellent thread has been posted by Ktlight with a video we should all watch regarding Gaia, link below...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23588-An-Open-Letter-To-All-Mankind&p=250403&viewfull=1#post250403

Mathilde Lares
24th June 2011, 22:14
Bill and Inelia thanks for make all of us aware that it is a privilege to be part of this planet and because of that we should love and take good care of it. Lets pray for the well being of our planet.

passiglight
25th June 2011, 15:50
Hi Bill,,, hope you don't mind ,

could you ask Inelia if she could ask mother earth how she was feeling when the dinosaurs were about ???

and could you ask her,,, if she has any comprehension how mother earth felt when the big ice age events were taking place,or how mother earth felt when the big meteors struck and also how she felt when their where 4 moons and 2 moons,and also how she felt when mars got on the receiving end of some intergalactic bother,,,,,,,,could you please ask Inelia also how mother earth feels being a pit closer to Sol ?


And could you ask her how she feels about the future,,namely her future,, especially when the new inhabitants turn up.........

Cosmic Love to you all

DoubleHelix
25th June 2011, 16:01
passiglight you really make me laugh !

Rocky_Shorz
25th June 2011, 16:21
Bill, when you wrote
That was over a month ago, in Europe. And now, we cut to today, in Sacramento, California. I had not seen Inelia for a couple of days, and she came round to see me towards the end of a very busy afternoon. It was wonderful to see her, as always. And as I gave her a hug, she collapsed in tears in my arms.

I looked at her, and held her hands, not knowing what was the matter.

She looked back at me, eyes brimming. “I can hear the cry”, she said. “It’s getting louder. I can’t bear it. It’s overwhelming.”

I looked at her intently, realizing. “The cry of the collective, and Gaia”, she said. “All the people, animals, all the plants, all the trees. There’s so much pain, so much suffering, so much violence. I feel it all. I hear it all. Every minute of every day. It never stops. I can’t stand it. And it’s getting louder all the time.”

the cry wasn't Gaia Bill, it was Inelia's pain, she has so many wonderful things to share with people and doesn't understand why anyone could be so mean...

I have tried to explain my gifts, one of which is communication, well when Saint Miguel realized I could hear him, he unloaded things he has been wanting to say for almost 40 years.

when he first started I couldn't understand what language was coming at me, then I realized it was English X 100 speed... lol

nothing like the passion that flows from someone with Spanish blood on a Mission...

I have much to share, but I'm waiting on Inelia to join us...

give her a hug from us...

Chuck
25th June 2011, 22:19
Is what we experience of Gaia subjective or objective? Does it matter?

I will plug my two cents here. My opinion is, it is subjective.

I believe it is our human filters that determine how or what we experience in any relationship, including with Gaia.

The Earth has been around for more than 4 billion years. Humans have been around for… at best… 250,000 years. That is like saying, if the earth were as old as one 24 hour day then we have been here for 5 seconds of that day. A VERY short period of time in relation to it. Furthermore, our industrial, technological and populated world have only been around 4 milliseconds (4/1,000 of a sec) of that day.

I think Gaia has been through a lot more than we will ever throw at her. Dinosaurs lived here for 160 million years! Did they live in harmony? lol I suspect many were brutally murdered. Did Gaia cry? I don’t know, but she was certainly willing to put up with a lot of their self serving appetite. Countless cataclysms for eons have occurred… is she perpetually sad and angry? I do not know, but I suspect a great consciousness will allow for everything under the sun to occur for as long as those creatures want it to occur.

I do know from my experience, that mother earth mirrors to me what my attention is focused on. If I am sad to see destruction she will show me “sympathetically” destruction and sadness. Alternatively, if I am focused on majesty, grandeur, strength, joy, endurance, etc she will show me those aspects of her.

Does Gaia cry or rejoice? I do not know. Seemingly it seemed important enough to label this thread in such a way. I liked most of what was shared because it came from your heart Bill. Mmm … my only criticism is to be careful not to project your wishes and attitude upon another of a greater consciousness like Gaia, god, etc. it’s a slippery slope.

I know that I cry and rejoice… and I know that my fellow brothers and sisters of humanity do. If there is a movement amongst them to make this world a better place I’m with you. Let's not be motivated by what someone sais what Gaia feels or God sais.

Not sure if this was your intent, just wanted to clarify.

Sync
26th June 2011, 07:02
There is a wonderfully non-linear, independent film called "The Tree of Life."

It was made in the green language; the language of the birds, which is rife with several levels of symbolism.

This community will understand a lot more than the average viewer.

It takes place in a dreamlike voice, out side of time.

It is about forgiveness and love. On the surface, it is about family. Each character represents a facet of society and much more.

In a way, it is about past paradigms of mankind and the need to shift.

It alludes to the cyclical nature of time; how nothing is static and how everything is constantly changing.

It's message is that love is needed to transcend into a new way of being.

I highly recommend this beautiful film. It is a projective measure that will elicit a new interpretation with each view and viewer.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlYYreuK8vo

Tarka the Duck
26th June 2011, 07:27
My first post so be gentle !! but reading this my personal view is we simply forget the power thats in our hands to heal and make a difference to Gaia and hence ourselves. I believe that those that we feel we cannot reach know too, the ones most distracted and perhaps most in need.
Like the primary school teacher with a talkative class, she holds her finger to her lips and is quiet, shortly the class pays attention and is quiet, a simple action a good example and everyone follows........perhaps it is time to stand up and by our actions become the teachers for the world, and perhaps even the most mischeavious child will follow. The journey begins.

Hello Ian! Welcome - although I feel a bit silly saying that as I am a relative newbie too...:o

Nice idea...but as a primary school teacher, I would like to add that that only works when you have "won the class over" and earned their respect through a lot of hard work.
A supply teacher (for the US citizens out there, a substitute teacher), only in for the day, would be totally ignored and would stand there in the midst of chaos feeling rather stupid!

Not sure of the significance of that...;)

Much love
Tarka

161803398
26th June 2011, 08:11
Im going to try to be polite about this. I wish people would stop excusing themselves for eating meat. The planet will die. Stop.

Here's a glimpse into the potential future of food:

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/06/friday-free-for-all-japanese-scientists-invent-poop-steaks

Im serious.

777
26th June 2011, 14:59
Thanks for the reminder. I was just embarking on an excursion through ego valley, calling at gloomy glen, miserable metropolis and the fields of forgotten dreams. I left the train through the nearest possible fire exit, activating all alarms, wearing a t-shirt stating: "Incognito. Just say no".

For this I'm very thankful.

Tony
26th June 2011, 15:07
Im going to try to be polite about this. I wish people would stop excusing themselves for eating meat. The planet will die. Stop.

Here's a glimpse into the potential future of food:

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/06/friday-free-for-all-japanese-scientists-invent-poop-steaks

Im serious.

After forty years of being a vegetarian, I have discovered the wonders of FAT BUTTER CREAM!
It has been one huge con. No more MARG CARBS CEREALS...
Result=no more belly!

doodah
26th June 2011, 16:40
Dear Bill, I hope you won't mind me dropping a small rant into this thread... but first I want to thank you and Inelia for this wonderful thread. I'm glad to see this new level of awareness (new to some) being spoken. It is hardest for intellectuals to make the leap from "knowing the facts" to actual "knowing" that is not based in facts but comes from a direct connection which is more like an empathetic knowing.

Whoever it was that convinced us that we are separate from all of life on this planet has done such a good job of mis-educating us that we've poisoned the whole shebang, thinking - what? - somehow all the poisons wouldn't come back and kick human life in the butt personally, individually, as well as all other life?

As dumbed-down as the masses are, we are ALL victims ... for instance, the FDA in the USA REFUSES to tell us what pesticide poisons were sprayed on the foods we buy; they REFUSE to label GM foods or tell us what levels of poison are now genetically built into them; the USA will not allow the importation or building of the Tata, the little Indian car that can run on compressed air, which would let us get completely out of the destructive and poisonous petroleum cycle.

It is with great distress that I observe that there are NO honeybees and very few bumblebees where I live, although there were plenty of them 5 years ago. Anyone who dismisses this fact as irrelevant does not understand how COMPLETELY our physical bodies are tied to this planet. All the proper healthy bodily functions of the natural lifeforms on this planet are dependent on the conditions provided by this planet, including the existing natural chemical systems and Earth-specific gravity. We CANNOT willy nilly destroy the built-in natural chemical systems of this planet and remain healthy.

I'm all for spending 10 minutes loving those who have committed terrible wrongs against all of life on this planet and taught others to do likewise, but I'm also for positive action of other kinds because none of this is getting any better as I sit here writing this post.

[Note: I realize that "natural lifeforms" will bring debate, but even if we were alien-engineered long ago, we are now natural lifeforms on this planet, particularly as regards our body chemistry which works with, not against or separate from, the chemistry of the planet.]

Ernie Nemeth
27th June 2011, 12:45
I have attempted to contact Gaia and this is what I got:

I am in distress. My lover is coming and I am not presentable. What will he think of me, will he still desire me? He seeded me with life, and I have nurtured it as best I could. But the children are deaf and blind - and destructive. He will not be pleased... He will not be pleased... Oh my, he will not be pleased.

DoubleHelix
27th June 2011, 14:18
Rob good to see ya ! drop in, spill a word or too !

Karma Ngedom
27th June 2011, 16:27
After forty years of being a vegetarian, I have discovered the wonders of FAT BUTTER CREAM!
It has been one huge con. No more MARG CARBS CEREALS...
Result=no more belly!

Please tell me more!!! I´ve been trying to get more involved in balanced vegetarianism, but haven´t been able to find good protein sources in my country. (Or I don´t understand how to do it?) Maybe I have to change thread for this one...

TOTHE
27th June 2011, 19:53
I have attempted to contact Gaia and this is what I got:

I am in distress. My lover is coming and I am not presentable. What will he think of me, will he still desire me? He seeded me with life, and I have nurtured it as best I could. But the children are deaf and blind - and destructive. He will not be pleased... He will not be pleased... Oh my, he will not be pleased.

Gaia has problems with her children? It is not a parenting problem, it is that "Free Will", growing up and moving into adulthood stuff.

Whenever your kids are out of control, you can take comfort from the thought that even God's omnipotence did not exceed to God's kids. After creating heaven and earth, God created Adam and Eve.
And the first thing he said was: "Don't"
"Don't what?" Adam replied.
"Don't eat the forbidden fruit" God said.
" Forbidden fruit? We've got forbidden fruit? Hey, Eve...we've got forbidden fruit!"
"No way!"
"Yes way!''
"Don't eat that fruit!!" said God.
"Why?"
"Because I am your Father and I said so!" said God, wondering why he hadn't stopped after making elephants.
A few minutes later God saw his kids having an apple break and was angry.
"Didn't I tell you not to eat the fruit?" the first parent asked.
"Uh huh," Adam replied.
"Then why did you?"
"I dunno," Eve answered.
"She started it!" Adam said.
"Did not!"
"Did too!'
"DID NOT!"
Having had it with the two of them, God's punishment was that Adam and Eve should have children of their own. Thus, the pattern was set and has never changed. But there is reassurance in this story. If you have persistently and lovingly tried to give them wisdom and they haven't taken it, don't be hard on yourself. If God had trouble handling His children, what makes you think it would be a piece of cake for you?
Advice for the day: If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do what it says on the aspirin bottle: Take two and keep away from the children.

excerpted from "God's Children'' by Bill Cosby

Advice for the day to Gaia: If you have a lot of tension and a headache, do what it says on the aspirin bottle: Inform and encourage your Lightworkers to work their magic and keep away from the children. ;)

manny
28th June 2011, 05:32
Gaia is going through a cycle of change.
call it what you want,healing or a natural cycle.
she has been here for millions of years,and us not that long.
we are all a part of Gaia and all the animals and insects on this planet.
but it is man,s greed and corruption that has damaged this wonderful planet.

so Gaia wants to sing again and she will.
with or without us.
we are insignificant,but we do have a choice,join her or begone.
well i don,t really see it as a choice,,it,s more of evolve or die.
it doe not really matter with Giai,it only matters to us.
we need to change with her,to protect the planet that feeds us.
it,s up to us.
she,s moving on with or without us.
she,s preparing to sing again.
are you willing to sing with her.

EileenCookies
28th June 2011, 13:46
I am very interesting in what this 'planet' under us is. Is it something we can talk/communicate with?

I have been contemplating it for months (already...I am sure others are as well). It was interesting to hear Inelia's take/vision.
If anyone had any distance from earth (like an observing distance.....like if you get far enough away from a situation you start to see the entire picture), it would be a walk-in (Inelia).
Perhaps we are too close to the situation (having lived on her 'earth' our entire 'remembered' lives) to see her intuitively (let alone in reality).

I did feel I had made 'contact' a couple of weeks ago (again, before I came to this thread). I did put energy into her mal-functioning
gyro-scope (what can I say...I'm not Inelia,....I just got the visuals I could relate to) situation. ...which I attributed, ...at the time...to tectonic plate movements being 'stuck' in place and waiting to be 'put into position'.

Who knows really what I was seeing into...I am just new to remote viewing work is all.

There is a mother energy about (but can not say 100% what it was doing)....and I had to sort of see her out of the outer limits of my inner seeing (RV) ability.

As if I couldn't directly approach (look at) her vastness. Too big a scope? ...probably my 'narrowing' vision parameter (my own internal restrictions coming into play....like I mention at the top).

eileen l.

doodah
28th June 2011, 16:12
Gaia has problems with her children? It is not a parenting problem, it is that "Free Will", growing up and moving into adulthood stuff.

Thanks, Tothe, that Bill Cosby story is very funny! But what you said is the point... there is a point where we grow up and take care of our parents - the roles reverse. This pattern of role reversal has been broken, particularly in the West, where aged parents are farmed out into nursing homes for somebody else to take care of. From the stories I've heard, those nursing homes often don't do the best job; sometimes the children who visit there are appalled at how their parents are being treated.

At the moment it looks like we've handed Gaia over to some other caretaker - the mega-corporations, the Illuminati and the bankers - not the best choices for loving, nurturing caretakers! We need to take back that responsibility on a massive scale and do a better job of being grown ups.

Underneath it all, however, is a missing basic piece of education: No matter how much people want to believe otherwise, we are NOT separate from this planet. The health of the planet is OUR health -- there is no other way. But just look at the brainwashing that has led people to believe that they don't need the planet, that they can live on unnatural chemical-laden "food" concocted in laboratories; that they don't need to use their bodies but can sit on their butts all day; and that the destructive and poisonous technologies of the past 100 years are the best we're able to do, so that breathing poisoned air is "just the price we have to pay" for all the gadgets this modern world cranks out. What BS! In this paragraph alone there are three really serious lies that have very serious negative effects, individually and planet-wide.

It looks like a real case can be made that this planet has been and is under deliberate chemical assault, that chemical warfare is being waged against all of life on Earth, on a large scale. Add to that, now, the physical destruction caused by volcanoes, earthquakes, weather, none of which can be said to be entirely "natural" anymore. It's no wonder that Gaia cries!

Heartsong
28th June 2011, 19:41
Is it just me who finds all this shockingly childish and sentimental?

No doubt I shall receive a shower of abuse for saying this... ;)

Lots of love
Tarka

My take on the earth's situation is that if and when she stops "crying" she's going to get angry, turn her back on her occupants (even the tree huggers and new age druids) and throw the buggers out (off?)! This is the true path of The Parent. She may already have started.

Fred Steeves
28th June 2011, 19:58
My take on the earth's situation is that if and when she stops "crying" she's going to get angry, turn her back on her occupants (even the tree huggers and new age druids) and throw the buggers out (off?)! This is the true path of The Parent. She may already have started.


She's well aware that there's still the old ace in the hole to circumvent that necessity. That's why she's now grabbing dumb asses like me by the shoulders, giving a good hardy shake to get the attention, sharing(downloading) her immense pain and sorrow, and gently demonstrating her power. This thing ain't over by any means.

Buckle up Avalonians!


Cheers,
Fred

TOTHE
28th June 2011, 20:10
Gaia has problems with her children? It is not a parenting problem, it is that "Free Will", growing up and moving into adulthood stuff.

Thanks, Tothe, that Bill Cosby story is very funny! But what you said is the point...

I hear you doodah, I have put intense research into all the points you have covered since 2000 when I retired from the rat-race. Much of it is true, fear based tidbits put out by the negative elite to distract or direct and control the human collective...mind control in action to herd the slaves. A high love vibration become a great nullifier of fear initiating balance..remember we can never get rid of fear, just put in with the rest of the background noise and when it gets to be a problem we can manage with it or smother it. My personal generational wisdom is there and developed...and yes, I can see the roadblocks society has put up against the aged who have come onto wisdom. Like anything else it is a step in my evolution to overcome those outside roadblocks and a learning process for me at the same time.
I know enough now to be very dangerous to the negative thought forms with my personal "law of balance". I don't want to go too far positive because the ego wants to manipulate everything. :) The calls started last summer, I have had four of that think were genuine, but I put up "fire walls" because I am still a slave to this 3D paradigm and naturally suspicious or cautious.
I am working on it though, in stages utilizing light, color, sound + love vibration, intention, visualization of the effect to transpire and this new "step aside" detachment to let the process free run. I am not psychic, I have only allowed my dreams govern and drive my intuition because I think the Source will let me know when it is time for me to withstand the download...just another uncertain slave banging on the bars who has just about had it up to here.

I am having a lot of fun working on this because I feel I am part of an unseen worldwide team pulling the human collective into a new paradigm. Side benefits are an unintentional surprise too: Curing myself of cancer and another person of terminal illness (who happened to be an extremely negative person, BTW). There may be others that I am or they are not aware of.


doodah and all who are reading this: I send you balance, light & love, tenacity and courage.

<<Richard>>

doodah
29th June 2011, 02:04
There's only one other thing I want to say, and that is I'm not sure everyone understands how FAST the poisoning of the planet has been accomplished. It's happened so fast -- in basically 50 years -- that I can only believe this has been a deliberate plan. FIFTY YEARS! It's almost beyond belief that so much harm could be done so fast to a WHOLE PLANET when you consider that people have lived here for thousands of years without creating this kind of damage. And the way the human race has been cleverly suckered into HELPING accomplish all this is also mind boggling. Mostly this suckering has been done by lying or simply not telling all of the truth, by making it difficult if not impossible to actually learn the whole truth, by deliberate mis-education, and by tying up opposing lawsuits in the courts for decades, preventing the slowing down or stopping of these poisoning programs.

The Pacific Ocean Garbage Patch (filled with plastics, a product made from petroleum) has been created in less than 15 years, and now it's also filling up with radioactive debris from Japan. The Gulf of Mexico was a bountiful natural food resource until last year when it was effectively killed by petroleum and people who WOULD NOT STOP spraying Corexit (also a product derived from petroleum) even when ordered to stop by US government officials. Now we have untold amounts of chemical poisons and GM seed being carried by the Midwest floods. Much of this will eventually dump into the Gulf of Mexico also, further killing that already damaged environment.

I don't know who is doing these things or why. The scale is so huge and the intent so evil that I don't believe simple human greed or lust for power can be an explanation, especially when everything's all poisoned in the end. Who could possibly benefit from all this?

Ernie Nemeth
30th June 2011, 21:59
Doodah, I resonate heartily with what you said above. Its the Lizards! They are behind this intentional poinsoning of our planet. That's just my term for the many races of aliens here with ill intent.


Tothe, your recent advancement and connection with the Earth Mother is inspiring. Please believe that many of us truly value our elders and hold them in the highest regard.

As a tradesman, I can tell you that young apprentices quickly learn to not question us skilled, experienced workers. It takes a while for them to realize just how much thinking we put into even the simplest tasks and that saves us so much time and effort. Sometimes, the best way to teach them this lesson is to have them do the task without instruction. Then show them how to do the same thing twice as fast and ten times better.

So take heart, those young ones, and others, who seek wisdom will find you and those like you.

Peace to all

9eagle9
30th June 2011, 23:15
And the Earth responds, not in defense but to clarify her own merit. And She asks some unnerving questions.

Question her if you dare.

On your purpose.

You came here to me with some purpose in mind? Without attending to your purpose whatever it may be, You imposed your conditions on me. Attend to your purpose and I will attend to mine.

My wild life have always lived by the living. One dies in order to live.That is a condition of this world that you cannot change. You cannot save every tree from fading to dust so that fungi may live.

Those are conditions of this density this 3d realm in which I REPRESENT. But is not the entirety or wholeness of me.

Do you understand?

It is YOU , who have came here with your purpose and imposed your conditions on me…and in doing so…you have created conflict within yourselves…you have denied the necessary condition of death in life everlasting.

On lying, for you live in a self imposed lie, a condition. I

I know you intend not to lie, and lie is not a moral value on my realm of existence that you have chosen to sit upon. The coyote lies, the horse lies, the crow is a trickster. You cast moral value on that which I gave the means to give form, and then cast it at each other?

Why?

Lack of understanding creates suffering.

I understand you perfectly so how would I suffer from you? I have the experience of you over generations to know and understand you very well. I’ve watched you for milllenia and know you well.
You are hear for a few scant years and claim to know me better than I know myself?


You speculateabout your place in the universe. It’s here. For now. Until you choose to go elsewhere taking your conditions with you.

Understand….

All those other places you yearn for are in your midst. Now. You consider that I do not know the universe when I know very well, the universe BEING a part of it, and my very well KNOWing my place in it.

And I know what I am composed of. I know what you are composed of. You are composed of the same thing as I.

Knowing what I am composed of, I know.

It is YOU who do not know that, and you have arrogance to tell me I am composed differently.

You pound the pulpit and state forth I have consciousness yet you think it is some how suppressed and powerless and that it can speak ony through the conditons you’ve place on me. I am speaking now. Challenge me if you will in regards to who knows more of our compistion. I ...or ...you?

I am powerful, and I express powerfully. Can you notion and express the tides and create continents,and mounains?

No? You have not created those things, I have. Then how do you know so much more than I?

You state that all things are eternal and then conversely cry about death. You cry about the suffering you have created and imposed on each other. But you did not impose it on me..not I!

I am not suffering.

I AM inconvenienced. I still glow with life and vibrancy and for those who are not assigning conditions…they see me as such.

Inconvenience and suffering are not the same things.

Humans bear their young in suffering but you forget…I am not human.

Mother's bear the condition of inconvience when they bring forth young. Surely those who are mothers among you know this. If you do not, I would ask you who’s skin have you lived upon for millennia. Do you think when I accepted you upon my skin that I didn’t perceive that you may inconvenience me?

ON suffering.

You think I am suffering? That there are among you those who cause me suffer? The suffering you see in me is the suffering you feel for yourself. You feel you have no voice and suffer for it so put a value of suffering on my own. And thus give me a voice through your suffering. I deny it.

Do I resent that? No its meaningless for that is not the way it is. As you have reassinged me the name of Gaia, you have reassigned me a value of suffering but neither changes my nature. I am nature. You cannot change my nature by reassigning values to me.

How little you value yourself…in doing so how little you value myself and those who live among you. What of those who do not suffer on my skin what value have they brought to the whole?

I accept these conditions yet you do not accept the conditions you’ve imposed on yourself ? Of course not, you do not accept the conditionsf that provided you the physical means to fulfill your purpose here. My conditions. Which of course are universal conditons not yet perceived by you. They are however perceived by me. You have assigned me a value of being your Keeper, yet you trust that I do not know the values, or conditions, that keep us all.

These I would let you know but you are attracted by your own suffering.

You know of conditions. You do it yourself. Daily I observe one of you stating: This is my place, my rules, my conditions.

Yet you do not acknowledge conditions of my own? Where do you think you are living at precisely?

You seek to rise above these conditions? I grant those conditions will exist in any dimension, all dimensions exist here, the conditions of those dimesions will exist….anywhere. They are not of my design, they are condtions o the universe. Any place you go in the universe you will find those same conditions.

I grant you blessings in your endeavors however….you must first know the condtion for what it is, before you can over come it, no? You can do that here, if you would allow. This I would make known to you if you would allow it. But…your conditions allow it not.

You’ve converted all my conditions into a fable more to your liking, thus creating a condition that dwells only in yourself that makes it harder to overcome the authentic conditions in the first place. Which are not insurmountable at all.

Until you made them so.

There are conditions that you do not know of …but only because of your actions..your refusal to accept that which is natural to me. You even impose on me a name that is not my own to further alter my nature. You cannot alter my nature . I AM nature. You know this. Why do you now object? I care not for our compliance or agreement, you have a condition of free will. Your objection or agreement will change nothing about me. I too....have free will. We are all composed of the same conditions.

It s natural. To us. To us all. To the universe. I am subject to the same condtions as the rest of universe because I AM a part of the universe.So I agree to those conditions. It is you who think you are not part of the universe because you have imposed your own conditions of separaton and suffering.

You think your conditions would be better in some other part of the universe? Not until you set your own self created condtions down. You’ve chosen to fulfill some purpose here. You chose. You created the condtions. Does the stage make directions to the actors who move upon it?

It is your conditions that you have created that you do not accept. Even as you create those conditions you do not accept them. You ARE suffering …you wish to impose it on me…I say….

No.


And in that... I have not suffered. On my behalf or yours.

Accept it or not. Regardless of what you do does not change my conditions. You however, can change yours. If you want light its there now…on me, in us, among us…if you want a lesser dense existence its there …now. If you want the fifth dimension and all others.... its yours there, here among us, on me, now.

Its not mine to offer,nor yours.

That is what we you and I are all composed of. It's there for the taking when we are unblinkered from our conditions. I am there in all dimensions...where are you?

Do I deny suffering?

How could I deny the expression of that exists in every fold of me, but I did not create?

You did. You are the ones who deny.

Do I deny you? Of course not. If that were so you’d not be here now.

Every one of you created the condition of suffering. . Those who imagine suffering and those who inflict it created it.

I balance all that you wrong.

Are there those who are starving?

Yes and it was my condition, universal condition, that no one walk upon my skin and starve. I do not suffer for starving, the starving suffer…not I. I am not starved. I am fed and kept by universal law in which I keep honor of.

You…keep not.

Do YOU feel hunger because the starved and suffering do

? Only because you have imagined those conditions in yourself. I know as I know you all that you are not experiencing starvation.

But for those who are fat and crying for the starved, what are you doing to create...or abate…starvation?

It suffices to say that weeping over it does not abate. I rain every day …yet your arid conditions remain.

However there is a balance to starvation.

It is gluttony. Greed. Obesity. Too much to balance too little. There is no imbalance, the starving balances the gluttony. The greed balances the starving. Those are YOUR conditions.

You asked for balance and I complied to your conditions.

Do you wish to change that?You created it in the first place so rearrange your conditions.

I didn’t create the condition, it is violation of MY condition. It is a violation of all universal law, and the universe and all its conditions and dimensions... is that which you and I are composed of.

Where do you find argument in this? I know your reistance know this moment of it...I feel it. Your resistance; you are creating yet another condition. You now venerate and loathe me for my words.

You think I’m awry?

The conditions I brought forth are to awry?

I am greater than in you by condition-mass, gravity--I am wiser than you, I know of the alchemy between wood, water, fire, earth, and air and you claim you know better than I? I provided the means to create your physical body…Yet…You claim to know all about what I have created down through the vastness of etnerity?

. To impose your suffering upon me, and claim authority over WHICH I HAVE provided the means to create! What is that?

No. No argument there; I refuse it now as I have done throughout the ages. You have not even the means to argue with me...or defeat me. You may put whatever words of mine in your mouths as you please but you will not change the nature of me.

Or those who carry my authentic voice from simple acknowledgment of my conditions you can silence not. That is my condition.

You think that you have come here , this visitor with a purpose, that our purpose is of more value than what I have created? That I am some object of powerlessness that you have the means to abate? Or that you know more than what I have created within the bowels of myself. Did it come forth from you? Did I? You know that you did not. You know that I did not. Yet you will continue on as if you have some authority over me. You do not. I speak for myself though those who accept and know my conditions. Take a time to walk that which is undisturbed in my world and it will compare to you the conditions I have set forth,

On Comet Elenin and Niburu.

Did it every occur to you that perhaps I call my sister planet forth, she is my MY kin, the comet-kin I could call forth---all that which you ponder and worry as if your anxiety were of your control, someone’s control, out of control? Those are my kin, we are universal, we are one.

What are you? Do you know? I know. Yet you insist you know better.

You insist that you interpret what I am calling forth quite on your behalf as a source of anxiety. Did you come here so that I may alarm you ? That I would set conditions of an untimely death for you? Those who know everything but the condtions of your own existence surely would not know why I would call forth MY KIN.

Do You trust me? You claim to weep with me but you trust me not?

I called forth that which alarms you so. What will you do then?

Would you call in that which would destroy you? Do you think I would? If you think so..you trust me not. Even as I have kept you for millennia upon millennia you trust me not.

Yes. If you did not know the condtion of destruction. Would I? I know what destruction is, I wreak it daily. Life is built upon destruction.

On Physical Being.

I have spilled forth the means to create your physical body for I am a physical being. Yet you claim to know more than I about the whole matter of physicality , the one who created and provided those means. You suggest you know the alchemy of mylself exists in your mind when it clearly of a physical construct? I will correct you. It exists in me, I am part of all unvieral law. Do you deny that I am part of the universe?

You are entertaining idle thoughts and then substantiating them as mine. I don’t think, I do. I am. I do not need to think or feel to be. I will be long after you’ve finally learn to break your conditions and see me for what I am.

And you wonder why you suffer?

I should suffer…only because of the condition that you are inflicting it on each other?!

Consideration.

Consider the wild children. The beast, the fowl. . They express my conditions. Does the bird care or condition what you are doing as it builds its nest, and takes to flight?

They abide MY conditions, not yours. The dolphin did not arrive here and demand to live on land. It accepted what it knew of itself and aligned itself in pre existing conditions.

Who among us calls the dolphin dumb?

Ever wonder why so many wild-kin have a natural smile upon their face? For those of you who belive that is an accident, it is designed by understanding conditions..

Watch them. Do they wilt away the day wondering what their neighbor the deer ate? Or what morality the wolf holds? They are in their being, being what they are because they know the conditions, they do not have to think them.. . The care- take their nest, they migrate, they kill , the living live from the dying, and the dying live again from the living. They do exactly what they are here to do. They provide food, shelter and warmth-to themselves and to you. They know. You do not.

They have not a religion or obsess over the spiritual. If you came here with a purpose, learn from their purpose. They are not in conflict; they only have yours imposed on them.

On Death.

Will you die?
Yes, if you didn’t want to die why are you here? In his place that you know very well has a condition of death? It is because you are obsessed with death that you came here. The universal law of attraction at work. Who created death? Are we not all attracted to that which we create?

Will I die? Perhaps.

Eventually if I choose it to be so. I Know and have the experience of that which you only speak or speculate on: Death, life regeneration, it has existed here long before you ever came along. The conditions of the universe. Death and life ever lasting.

I know death, and I know the regeneration of life everlasting and how it is wrought, through air, spirit, wind, and fire, soil, and ilght and that which is created from stirring that together. Why else did my wise ones call me the Cauldron?

And I know what creates suffering in that cycle which should be suffered not. Not avoided. Not suffered.

If you view this place as a place of suffering I ask why you came here. I do not suffer, that which exists within my realms is not obligated to suffer.They’ve chosen to suffer.

I am a part of the universe and all that that implies. I know every dimension of that which I am a part of—all of them. When I came to my existence I knew. How can you exist in those conditions, within, and without, and not know what you are composed of.

You wish to go to another dimension? The universe is composed of dimensions and I am a part of the universe, that which you seek ….you are in the midst of those variables… now. Your conditions you have imposed on yourself , your false authority over me has blinded you to them.. You will come to my conditions, the universal conditions that you refer to as law …

As always it has been your choice. You honestly believe that I have chosen to suffer?

No. In doing so all that live upon my skin would suffer as well. Equally.

. I am part of the universe, I know and express all its conditions, all its alchemy, all its light and dimension and vibration. The condtions did not change. You did.

Your conditions only allow you not to see things as they really are.

On HARRP activity.

My conditions-- the quake, the fire, the flood, are the result of falsely composed conditions? Yes, Some.

And some are often my answer to those conditons falsely imposed on me. They mimic an expression much like my form, without my intention, and I respond. Woud you prefer I did not, and just allow those false conditions imposed on Me, on you, go unanswered?

You do not know the difference becaue you are no different than they, so why do you make judgement?

Imposing false conditions on me and I refuse in kind by a like and equal response. Do you have the knowledge to know which is which?

You claim no responsibility in this matter, yet in the next breath state you are One?

Do you truly imagine that a condition imposed on me would not be met with a more powerful condition from myself in this place of cause and effect. You think there are those among you more knowledgeable and powerful than I?

You have no power over me.. Not ‘they’, not you!

Would you be kicked in the teeth and not effect in kind a valuation of your own life? Do you think I would?

If it is the expectation that I would keep you till your purpose was through, do you think I’d not watch out for you?. Those acts I can do.

The only thing I cannot do is choose your conditions for you. Just as you cannot impose your conditions on me.

Those who have made the assumption that I protect you all, how exactly do you think I perform this without the condition of cause and effect?

On what is yours.

Your body? You chose it. I gave forth the means and substance to create it along the will of your fashioning. That which you claim fully and live in so deeply is of course…yours. I provided you the means in which for you to have it, do you think I would not know fully of its nature having provided the means? I am nature. Of course I would know what is natural.



I am breaking from that which you have imposed on me. Hinder me not, challenge me if you are able. But you cannot. You create your own conditions here...they do not apply to me.

Are you? Are you truly able to challenge that which you were formed from? Universal conditions apply, I am composed of that which composes the universe as we all are. We can be one in compliance of the condtions that I express…our you may experience your suffering…your separation.

It has been, and always has been...your choice.

9eagle9
30th June 2011, 23:23
Wheat separates from the chaff.

Will you answer Her questions poised before you?

If it is fair that others speak on Her behalf it is fair she answers on Her behalf via the same means. That is the embodiment of balance. No one is greater or equal in Her realm, only She.

In a frame one, spoke on her behalf in the next frame she Queried on her behalf.

Will you answer?

dan i el
30th June 2011, 23:48
meanwhile, over on the grassy knoll:


O Master of sublime name and great power, supreme Master; O Master Saturn: Thou, the Cold, the Sterile, the Mournful, the Pernicious; Thou, whose life is sincere and whose word sure; Thou, the Sage and Solitary, the Impenetrable; Thou, whose promises are kept; Thou who art weak and weary; Thou who hast cares greater than any other, who knowest neither pleasure nor joy; Thou, the old and cunning, master of all artifice, deceitful, wise, and judicious; Thou who bringest prosperity or ruin, and makest men to be happy or unhappy! I conjure thee, O Supreme Father, by Thy great benevolence and Thy generous bounty, to do for me what I ask

Jean Seznec (Trans. Barbara F. Sessions), The Survival of the Pagan Gods: The Mythological Tradition and its Place in Renaissance Humanism and Art, Princeton University Press, 1995 (reprint), p. 53

9eagle9
1st July 2011, 00:04
Answer Her?

Rocky_Shorz
1st July 2011, 00:21
sets a pet rock on the desk in front of me and waits for it to speak...

taps the rock...

9eagle9
1st July 2011, 00:55
touche. I have a s a pet desk top sheep chia pet and I wait for it to answer.

People here aren't chia pets, or sheep....or....

prove her wrong?

It is in your power to do so, no one else's.

Rocky_Shorz
1st July 2011, 02:11
well I see Gaia as a combination of all our spirits power combined in this reality... Seeing its beauty magnifies its energy, but that is your energy...

Earth doesn't have a Spirit, or talk, but your Spirit feels what the earth needs many are gifted to be in tune with the environment around them...

Giving it a voice is just speaking what you know...

TOTHE
1st July 2011, 03:36
....... Sometimes, the best way to teach them this lesson is to have them do the task without instruction. Then show them how to do the same thing twice as fast and ten times better.

So take heart, those young ones, and others, who seek wisdom will find you and those like you.

Peace to all

Ernie: Likewise as a tradesman I have put this into practice and have seen the results and I am encouraged. They have watched me work and have found me. Passing on those skills is rewarding, joy and fun...what is reflected back is one hundred fold.


And the Earth responds, not in defense but to clarify her own merit. And ........

9eagle9: Gaia, She does get upset at times too. Remember She can see up and down the timelines and KNOWS what will transpire. I have long forgiven our brothers Ishmael for they have been deceived but not stopped in their quest for the light. I am sure there are facilitators among them such as Inelia and Bill are with us to raise their vibration.

As of late July 2010 Pakistan floods In full color..it is starting.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=44991

By August 4, 2010
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=45062

News on August 7, 2010...the catalyst event or node?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10900338

August 8, 2010
http://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/45000/45091/pakistan_amo_2010220.jpg
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=45091

By August 17, 2010
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=45302

To all who are reading this: I send you balance, light & love, tenacity and courage.

<<Richard>>

doodah
1st July 2011, 04:00
9eagle9: Beautifully said, very big, with some of the power, majesty, and dignity we might imagine this planet-being would speak with, were there words. Thank you.

Chuck
1st July 2011, 05:08
9eagle9

your post 155 and 156 ... is the best read I have had in a very long time! It has left me speechless.

My hat is off with a deep bow.

Senso
1st July 2011, 07:32
as i read these words of the purest intentions for us to see our destiny in healing mother earth and humanity as a whole......i am constantly touched gently in my heart as I read these words of TRUTH and LOVE.....thank you so very much Bill and Inelia . . .I will sit and ground my light energy for mother earth and all who live on the surface .....lets commence the healing ...all of us....if only for a moment we can change the world.....much love and grace to everyone! Thank you again!

Mother
1st July 2011, 19:57
Hello everyone, I´ve just created a Group for those who were at Vilcabamba, living the reality of a remarkable meeting to share "The role of spirit to transform a world in crisis".

Feelings, thoughts, feed-back and contacts are welcome.

Those who couldn´t come are welcome as well, and it would be a pleasure to share the experience.

nickc2496
2nd July 2011, 02:49
Yes Gaia needs our love, i too feel the pain, to me its simple - if we dont care for the planet and life, we certainly wont care about ourselves and other people - unfortunalty so many people cant love themselves and so cant love anything else...love and compassion are so natural and yet the mainstream world is so cased in fear they cant feel it or give it - fear is what is holding most people back, thats why we should send our love to all - even our 'enemies', because without our love too the cycles of fear will continue...and Gaia will continue to suffer...love and compassion is the key :) And when (not if) the world loses its fear and self doubt, balance will return :) Its going to be a hard and bumpy road but the destination is amazing and beautiful :)

Laura Elina
5th July 2011, 16:37
There is a little thing I started doing every night, before I go to bed, suppose one may compare it to praying. I visualize Earth and as I lay myself to sleep, I lay light on Earth, kind of like a blanket would be put on a child resting except the blanket is made out of light. And I repeat the "blanketing" of Earth as many times I feel necessary, before I drift off. So Earth cries and I catch and release her cries this way. I do feel it's important to listen to the suffering of Her... But as Inelia reminds us, letting go of attachment of pain and suffering is important, release it and fill the space with love (Inelia's advice).

manny
5th July 2011, 22:50
sorry guys imo,gaia does not need us.
We need her.
we need to be able to live along side with the planet and everything that has been created on it.
there,s just one slight problem.
and thats US.
we have over the centuries used and abused this planet for our own greed.
she will move on with or without us.

Butterfly Heart
7th July 2011, 09:23
One of the most wonderful articles I have read. Very palpable truths reveal themselves through the frequency of intent of the expressionist. Thank you so much Bill and Inelia.

Gaia, just like us, has a child within her mother-like persona... one that conjures up magical synchronicities for the love of beauty and expression.

When i was studying with native shamans in the Amazon jungles in Peru, I had a profound awareness of Gaia and her natural aboriginal impulses... her authentic urge for joy and her whimsical celebration of her tribe... the plants, shaking their rustling leaves, their smiling flowers dancing like in a carnival, their fruits and roots feeding the party and curing the pained and damaged... the animals psychically joining in the circle of fire, going about their quiet service to Pachamama, never telling a word to the talking... humans with open hearts who honor her, enhance her beauty and indulge in the luxuries she offers in the nurturing comfort of her own cradle of Celestial imagination.

After many ayahuasca ceremonies, stripped down to the Heart... i sat in solitude in my thatch-roofed hut, biding my time of days of silence as instructed by the maestro. I used to draw as a child but i could never truly impress myself. Here i was, once again a child, and I was in awe of who i was... who i was becoming. I painted for the first time in my life with oils since it was all i could lay my hands on. Sitting by the river, using a beautiful banana leaf each day as my palette, I unraveled to the stark canvas.

When i was done... i was lighter... wiser... and i could smile at it without the need to be impressed. When i left the jungles to make my way back all the way to India, I left the painting behind. I never signed it and it doesn't belong to me. I wish it well as it tells a story about Gaia to whoever meets it.

I did take a picture of the painting tho... i did try to insert the image here but i figured maybe its not allowed to upload here or something. So maybe another time. love and smiles to All:)

WhiteFeather
13th July 2011, 11:54
The Trees, Plant Life, Animals, Fish And All Living Things including The Mountains Here On This Planet Are Saying Simply This: Humans, If You don't stop destroying and hurting one another and with respect to our sacred ground and sacred waters, that we all walk, drink and bathe upon, you will be asked to leave forthwith. We are a part of this land as you humans, simply because we were all born on this planet together as One, no differences just One. The Law Of One, The Natural Law

The Law of One Video, A must watch. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCnWZncHH2Y)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCnWZncHH2Y

WhiteFeather
13th July 2011, 16:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yr-F8z74KM

Davidallany
13th July 2011, 18:38
Sweet Lullaby.
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snaden
18th July 2011, 23:45
thanks for sharing .
We should all cherish gaia. and send her love and healing.
Peace and love to all.

snaden
we are all one.

Centauro
16th September 2011, 20:52
I promised Bill and the forum members on the post interview that I would write something to contribute to the forum and all.... Well here it is, it is my hope that you will read and take this post as a contribution to the forum and to all. I know these are my personal beliefs and thought that was a good place to start sharing with you my most precious thought and beliefs. I did not know where to post it so I thought this thread was a good place, considering Gaia is part of us all as this post is part of me.


Theory of Creation and The Unifying Theory of One

Dedicated to Terence Mckenna
and Teilhard de Chardin

“Myth is an attempt to narrate a whole human experience, of which the purpose is too deep in the blood and soul, for mental explanation or description”

D.H Lawrence (1885 - 1930) English writer

Please note that some of the definitions below I arrived on my own after reading various books and from creation myths from around the world
Main definitions:

a) There are many universes according to the latest science of physics and quantum mechanics
b) All universes are connected by consciousness, space, and spirit
c) There are a few main laws that govern the universes and our own reality: The law of balance and The law of freedom of choice
d) Time does not exists in the universe, it only affects us in the earthly plane.
e) Spiritual (consciousness) and Physical evolution are tied together and must be in balance in order to achieved higher states of being.
f) The universe is in constant evolution
g) Science and Religion are the same thing, it is us whom have separated then.
h) Everything is possible in the universe. This is a power of constant creation and universal evolution.
i) Prayer, belief and mind unite us all

Mythological and Religious definitions:

“THE BIG BANG”
“In the beginning there was the WORD ... THOUGHT, A FORCE...”

a) God: Spirit, All knowing. Being and having the nature of self. Superhuman Supremely good; Magnificent; Omnipotent; Superhuman
b) There are many “Gods” probably a few for each of the galaxies in our universe
c) There exists physical and spiritual beings throughout the galaxy and in our local universe.
d) “Gods” could have physical and spiritual forms
e) Because of the law of freedom of choice there exists beings in our universe that prefer power and control over love and cooperation and prefer darkness over light. sometime we call them demons, bad aliens, etc.
f) Among the Gods there is a law of nonintervention to allow for freedom of choice and creativity among evolving planetary cultures and species.
g) The gods created and seeded the many planets that are capable of supporting life.
h) Our galaxy has a particular god and it is this god who was responsible for earth's creation.

My own theory and belief of Man’s and Earth’s history and creation.

Please note that this overview of our own creation and history it is seem from my own Christian perspective but it also can be seen from a more generic or mythological point of view.
It is my belief that earth was seeded by the Gods of our galaxy and when the conditions were right the human species became self aware and conscious of self.

“And God said: Let US make man in our own image, after our likeness”
Genesis chapter 1 verse 26.

I believe that earth was a paradise once and man walk with God and was aware of his place in the universe. Man was to be immortal and would never known death. Some myths have called this paradise Atlantis, and with other various names. But this paradise was not to last due to the interference of the opposite forces in our galaxy that were out to seek control and power over the newly created species on earth


Man then was deceived by an alien force that made him believed he could be like the gods. Man was also deceived into letting this alien force change his genetic make up and was “dumb down” thus became a slave species, subject to death and subject to the influence of this force that its only purpose was to take control and destroy any possibility of man’s own spiritual and physical advancement and evolution in our universe.
Hence we don’t use all of our DNA and Don’t use half of our brain’s capabilities
Some theories exists regarding this “dumb down of the human species”. For example: the “Anunaki’ from “Slave species of God” by Michael Tilllinger, and others.
Therefore a plan of redemption was devised by the God of our galaxy to lift man’s spirit and body out of his mortality and from his loss of knowledge of his place in God’s creation. Man was to be shown a way out of darkness and into immortality again without direct interference.
A half man and a half God was to be born on earth to show man the way out his mortality and shown the way to eternal life. I know we all heard Christ’s own story, but there is a more vivid and logical explanation of his whole purpose.
See, we (man and earth are living) in a time where choices are to be made... some call it 2012, the Hopi’s call it something different. New agers call it the age of Aquarius, the Christians and the bible call it the Apocalypse.
There is an event that will happen on earth when a critical mass of consciousness reach a certain number and there will be enough souls on the planet believing in the possibility of an expontaneous spiritual and physical evolution, a new state of being that will transform our planet to that long lost Paradise that we once had.
From “Spontaneous Evolution” by Bruce H. Lipton , PHD and Steve Bhaerman
Christ showed us this by example with his own resurrection and by telling us in his own words that “Belief is what take us there” He said we could perform miracles, that we could have eternal life. That we were sons and daughters of god and that belief and love for one another was all that was needed to achieve Paradise again.
Once this event happens, earth and man will be in Paradise again and take his rightful place in our galaxy and in our universe. We, and those who are aware of this event must unite and fight the forces that rule the earth and that are in against this uplifting of the human spirit and want to maintain control our our lives by keeping us slaves as we were from the beginning of human history.
Our planet is in dire need of consciousness rebirth - we deserve to make it. We owe it to ourselves our planet and our brother and sisters - live by example, and by love. That is all that matters.


WISDOM OF YORE - By SHIFT

The wisdom of elders foretold
of a return to reason
When balance of consciousness folds
like the turning of seasons

When great spirits speak to the minds
of those who will listen
and faith in their teachings will find
all the love that's gone missing

Well the children came running
the hour had arrived
to take back their freedom
and take back their lives
So they smashed all their TVs
and gave up their cars
They saddled white horses
and rode songs of praise to the stars

Life found it's way to this earth
in a body born human
Seeds in a cosmic rebirth
that had longed to awaken

as healers who challenge their youth
to heal what lies broken
and seekers who thirst for the truth
in the words that are spoken

So they gathered their honor
and dried all their tears
They realized their folly
and laughed at their fears
then they burned all their money
and gave up their bombs

They saddled white horses
and rode songs of praise to the stars

Written by Paul of SHIFT

jen
16th September 2011, 22:01
Wonderfully moving, thank you Bill and Inelia.
I too feel very deeply the pain, but also the love, from people, animals, nature.
Love and light to you both.

Seikou-Kishi
21st October 2011, 16:18
I'm about to include an excerpt from the new Source Field Investigations book by David Wilcock because I think it is Germane to the topic.





On February 2, 1966, Backster had worked through the night in his lab, and finally took a coffee break at seven a.m. In those weary hours, Backster got an idea—he would try to connect his new dracaena plant to the polygraph and see what happened. Much to his surprise, the plant did not have a smooth, flat pattern of electrical activity—it was surprisingly jagged and alive, changing moment to moment. Then, as Backster kept watching in amazement, it got a whole lot more interesting:





About one minute into the chart recording, the tracing exhibited a short-term change in contour—similar to a reaction pattern typical of a human subject who might have been briefly experiencing the fear of detection.

In simple language, the plant's electrical activity looked just like the graph from a person who was starting to tell a lie...


Dr Backster went on to determine that the plants produced a reaction when they were, in human terms, in fear of their lives; he tried several ways of exciting such a reaction in the plants until he had the thought to hold a lit match beneath their leaves. At that point, the polygraph measured a reaction: the thought alone caused fear in the plants. Successive experiments determined that these plants also expressed a cry of sympathy when live shrimp were dropped into boiling water, even when bacteria and unfertilised chicken eggs were dropping in boiling water.

This particular chapter of the book goes on to show, inter alia, that the reaction is not restricted by location (since the plants reacted when those with whom they were familiar were experiencing anxiety anywhere in the world) and that the communication between the plant and person was not electromagnetic transmission (since the same communication happened when the two were separated by a faraday cage and a lead box). Moreover, the communication was shown to happen between the cells of a person's body by hooking up a sample of cells in a millimetre-wide test tube.

If such 'basic' lifeforms as plants, bacteria and human cells are part of a complex, interconnecting network which makes communication not just a possibility but a continual interchange between all living things (and here, the definition of living thing really gets stretched) then it strikes me as possible, even overwhelmingly probable, that Gaia is either a) an entity that forms a rather large part of this interconnecting network, or, as is my hunch at the moment, b) that Gaia is that interconnecting network, which is registering the pleas for help from all quarters, but is so pitifully unheard by modern human society.

misericordia
21st October 2011, 22:14
Thank you for your post Seikou-Kishi,

I suppose it's synchronicity that I had only begun reading the book yesterday and of course that particular passage which is in the first few pages. I cried after reading it as I was overcome with emotion even though such revelation did not really come as surprise to me because I feel like I have always intrinsically known this was the case. I now speak and thank all the vegetables etc that I'm about to cook. :) and I speak to the trees and plants even more so than before.

I would also like to add a further contribution to this thread by introducing as I have not so far seen any mention of it on Avalon, The Deep Ecology Movement http://www.deepecology.org/movement.htm as it too is I suppose germaine to this thread. It's hippie academia if you like and I'd greatly recommend reading about it.

'Deep ecology is a contemporary ecological philosophy that recognizes an inherent worth of other beings, aside from their utility. The philosophy emphasizes the interdependence of organisms within ecosystems and that of ecosystems with each other within the biosphere. It provides a foundation for the environmental, ecology and green movements and has fostered a new system of environmental ethics. Deep ecology's core principle is the belief that, like humanity, the living environment as a whole has the same right to live and flourish.

Deep ecology describes itself as "deep" because it persists in asking deeper questions concerning "why" and "how" and thus is concerned with the fundamental philosophical questions about the impacts of human life as one part of the ecosphere, rather than with a narrow view of ecology as a branch of biological science, and aims to avoid merely anthropocentric environmentalism, which is concerned with conservation of the environment only for exploitation by and for humans purposes, which excludes the fundamental philosophy of deep ecology. Deep ecology seeks a more holistic view of the world humans live in and seeks to apply to life the understanding that separate parts of the ecosystem (including humans) function as a whole.' taken from wikipedia.

Namaste

CdnSirian
21st October 2011, 23:16
Like, everything groks everything else. Cool!

EileenCookies
21st October 2011, 23:28
On the world we live on:
I can attest that she (ma...our own mom) is a reflection of a higher level matrices that we are currently unable to fathom or take any level of responsibility about.

That could change. Perhaps just taking on the attributes we already have access too*, like avarice, money addictions and so on could help clear the energies so we could see this other world.
love
eileen

*We tend to ignore our own laments and those need to be admitted to and corrected. (see Eckhart tolle).

CdnSirian
22nd October 2011, 00:10
Hi Eileen Cookies. Do you mean "so we can see this other world" as a future earth? Or something else? I sense you are saying something of importance, but I'm not understanding it. Thanks.

Brenton
22nd October 2011, 08:42
with ease we take the steps to the world we know can be, in joy we change the being of us so to receive, in love we share the being of us with all.....0 0 0 in thanks Brenton

EileenCookies
22nd October 2011, 23:02
Hi CdnSirian,
You havn't cleared before. What I am referring to isn't mysterious. People have been changing their time-lines, destines regulary by seeing through their restraints (ignorance) by using what is referred to as clearing.

People think that clear means you become un-attached (then enlightened). But what does that mean to regular folks? YOu change your destiny,...ie future when you let go of your past ideas that are keeping a bridge open to the history of this world. You clear that and voola, you are in a heavenly matrices or higher plane of existence.

We havn't as a culture explored these ideas/values and hence you arn't familiar with these ideas (only think you are). Go live with the Navajo for a while and see it in practice (not saying all Navajo...just traditionalist and good examples).

hard to write what doesn't exist.

eileen

CdnSirian
22nd October 2011, 23:55
Hi CdnSirian,
You havn't cleared before. What I am referring to isn't mysterious. People have been changing their time-lines, destines regulary by seeing through their restraints (ignorance) by using what is referred to as clearing.

People think that clear means you become un-attached (then enlightened). But what does that mean to regular folks? YOu change your destiny,...ie future when you let go of your past ideas that are keeping a bridge open to the history of this world. You clear that and voola, you are in a heavenly matrices or higher plane of existence.

We havn't as a culture explored these ideas/values and hence you arn't familiar with these ideas (only think you are). Go live with the Navajo for a while and see it in practice (not saying all Navajo...just traditionalist and good examples).

hard to write what doesn't exist.

eileen

People use the term "clearing" in many ways. Thanks for explaining.

lotusblossom
23rd October 2011, 03:24
I too am reading the source field and I am re-exploring many things because of the vast amount of info. I am amazed that Backster's findings are not presented in every basic botany class. I wish everyone would take the time to listen to and feel Gaia. I personally know she is alive and she is part of each one of us because we are all one.

Sharma
2nd November 2011, 20:05
Wow ! Thank You Inelia and Bill for such a beautiful, inspired piece - I strongly feel Gaia as a being too. and guess that she is our collective self ? - the group soul of this entire beautiful blue sphere and all who sail in her ! We all feel that now ( i think ) - feel part of Gaia.
and coming from that Mayan ' I am Another You ' standpoint, guess that the pain i feel, and that we've all felt, are the same pains that Gaia has to deal with - all of the kingdoms, animal, vegetable and mineral, and all of the five elements have suffered equally.
Gaia's cry, our collective cry, is deafeningly loud right now, but maybe just about to break into song !! just about to break the collective chains and find ourselves free from all of that pain forever, with an unshakeable resolve to never again return to ' the cult of the individual ' - the me - me - me culture - as our collective telepathy builds, we feel each others so clearly - your pain becomes my pain, and your joy becomes my joy - and that's what's happening now - we've just taken our first couple of baby steps in to the 5th dimension, and done it as a a collective - You and Me and Gaia doesn't make three now ! It makes One !! One awesomely advanced evolved being !! I know for sure that we've all decided to go pain - free from here on in, and have great faith in our ability to see that through - The prize is in our sights !

transiten
4th November 2011, 14:40
Thankyou Bill and Inelia!

This place is the dimension of Paradoxes, the Beauty and the Beast..........

Many years ago i was reading about the Gaia/Gaea phenomenon. The 6 year son of my ex played on the floor. Suddenly he said "Do you know which is the biggest animal on earth?" "The whale!" i said.........."No, it's the Earth, because if you put all the animals toghether The Earth is the biggest animal". This was a beautiful moment in an otherwise destructive codependency relationship i had with this young boys father.....

Aetheric Traveler
11th November 2011, 05:20
What the world needs according to this post, IMHO, is a coordinated daily gathering of hearts and minds. Through the internet, wouldn't it be possible for a movement to start in all the developed countries in the world to have people set aside the 10 minutes they are talking about, no matter what time of day or night or geographic location, and just beam love and forgiveness to their fellow beings?

Seems to me the wave of goodness energy would spread around Gaia and more and more people would be feeling the wave of energy in their core being until a Critical Mass was reached. Once that vibrational frequency of critical mass is reached, the rest of the world who hasn't been following along and helping to create the wave of goodness will be accelerated up to the vibrational level of the people who achieved Critical Mass. Awareness would start to permeate souls that there are better ways all around, just waiting to be manifested. Who feels it's their life's purpose to start such a movement?

Daughter of Time
11th November 2011, 05:54
Thank you Bill and Inelia for sharing this.
The pain I feel is profound. May I be guided to do my best to help.

redlotus
12th November 2011, 02:59
Dear Bill,
Your story is incredibly deep: Thank you for sharing it with us. I recently lived a 'vision-quest' -like life for the last 3 years: off-the-grid, right on the ocean and in the dying desert of Baja CA Sur. I know now, that Gaia specifically called me there. She wanted me to experience and witness the suffering and slow death of the plant and animal kingdoms, but also witness first-hand how oppressed the lives of the Mexican working people are.
Now, I suddenly got 'moved back' to the city and while not as deeply in touch, as before, I understand fully, what my purpose is with my life. I am here to help with anchor in the 5D Light energies and help Gaia with her move beyond this 3D Reality. I truly believe, that is exactly, what Inelia is doing.
The dark beings (collective name for short) are ramping up their effort to destroy 'Terra' and all the collective life within her - but, I know, they are already losing at their own game.

This morning as I woke, an arrogant message was lingering on my mind: "Earth lost"... I know, 'they' can mess with your dreamstate and mind, and I did not buy into this message. However, I am aware how tough their game is getting right now. Everyone of us is needed to keep the vibrational frequencies elevated as high as possible.
Finally, I made this little art video depicting the metamorphosis of the butterfly - as it is truly symbolic of our human evolution...
Thanks, again, for all you are and do :o


a99gY1yeO6I
The Human Butterfly

UnrealDreams
12th April 2012, 09:54
What a beautiful post. I love the enlightened way of thinking Inelia possesses. I, too love all people, even those who wish to destroy the Earth. These are people(at least partly) who thrive on hate, death and disaster. They feed you GMO food and make ridiculous laws(NDAA) to enrage you. This is their game. It is their goal to make you hate them, because they thrive on hate.

I, too cannot kill even an insect. Imagine a poor lost insect who makes his way into your house. A living breathing being. How do you treat this guest in your house? Every living being deserves love. Love is the way to deny them of their goals in this life. If you hate them....they win. If you love them and wish the best for them, it destroys their plans.

I understand Bill's frustration. We are all frustrated because of the things that are happening on this planet that we have no control over. We cannot make the changes right now, but a time is soon approaching when we will be able to. Just keep the love in your heart. things will change.

amandamaze
17th June 2012, 14:08
I have been happily inspired by Bill and Inelia this past year since discovering who they are... like these two bright souls I too feel it is up to us as a collective group of energy and amazing altruistic ability.... to be the change we want to see in this world and for this world.... This letter rocked and I want to first say thank you its content Bill and Inelia.
because of them and people like them... I have been working on a teaching project for young people called the compassion project but I am also following my heart and stepping up my activism in regards to cleaning up Fukishima and I have written an open letter to the people of planet earth and I wanted to share it here in Project Avelon as well... I just feel it is imperative that we work very hard to change our collective consciousness and so I am trying in my way to generate more discussion about cleaning Fukishima up and I realize that I am really calling for some brave people to step up and offer their lives in order to so... but this letter I wrote is my first attempt in getting the people I know in my own life to join in on their own rescue mission... I posted my letter here... I hope that is okay... your letter was so beautiful about Gaia and I wanna help save her myself... Love and happiness to you and through you, Amanda

An Open Letter to the People of Planet Earth to Change the Collective Consciousness

I have been writing music and letters... and I am getting all this pain out of me, blessing its mad exodus as it goes and In its place, I have been letting all this joy set up camp inside of me.

and I am here to tell you that It is amazing here.

As Fukishima is heating up I felt pulled to write this stuff out ...
and because Fukishima is heating up and we can all agree now that
no one is going to do anything about it, at least maybe not in this time line anyway... it has become even more apparent to me that if I write it out here... maybe it can happen just as I wrote it... some how in some way.

For me, Fukishima is a really good example of the human condition mirroring the environmental condition... and it does tie in really well to where I think we have all arrived together.

It is very interesting to me that in this day and age of technolog, living at a point in time where we can send information faster than the act of thinking a single thought... we Instead choose to muddy up the waters of information so murky until something like Fukishima becomes merely an after thought... not something pretty ****ing bad ya'll... we have stopped properly informing all of the people of the planet as to what will come with these kinds of dangerous levels of radiation from a potential nuclear meltdown; and first suppressed and now it even seems... we have ended any proper discourse about the dangers of nuclear energy in general. Our choice of media about this is to supply these really sweet and interesting humans with all the apathy we can stuff ourselves with. And I wonder.... doesn"t anyone else out here wonder why that is?

And when the earthquake happened and when we knew this was way worse than Chernobyl, suddenly reporting the truth became unimportant. But a cry was heard from the generation that understood the implications of Fukishima... A band of people rose up... and they asked... they even begged to be of service... The elderly people of japan begged the Japanese government and the corporate owners of the Fukishima nuke plant to please be allowed to go in and clean up... AND WHAT AN AMAZING GESTURE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN! WHAT A BRILLIANT EXAMPLE OF HUMANITY WE WOULD HAVE ALL BEEN PRIVY TO? and these brave and honorable souls of beautiful Japan were denied with a resounding NO... and it was a news story for less than a day and I kept asking myself... how in the world did not a single person bat an eye? How did I hear about this amazing proposal to clean up Fukishima and no one else around me even knew about it... how and why did the collective consciousness of all of us fail so miserably? and the answer hurt... I need look no further than myself to answer this. In recent years... I too was pounding down the apathy.... However, this is not my natural state of being. I have been a victim of the darkest kind of subversion.

In my younger days.. I attended every anti nuke event in DC and yelled and screamed and made copies of The Hundreth Monkey... ( Of Which I will post a link to its full content at the end of this writing) and I handed them out for free to anyone and everyone who would take one... and I have always always said that this will come to no good... this nuclear energy... and I can see now where I should have focused my thinking instead... they say hind sight is everything and boy they aint kidding... to make up for my shortsidedness... I pick up other peoples trash and put it in the garbage everywhere I go. To make up for my lack of understanding or rather seeing things the way they really are... I am writing this today.

back to where I am going with all this...

I am going to write it out ... with the hopes that thought truly is matter and if I write it... if I can see it... I can bring it into existence.

It is my belief that...
we live in a multidimensional holographic system of thoughts and beliefs.
Anything that can be thought can be experienced. Ergo baby... Thought is Matter.

therefore... we can think ourselves into everything and anything... one lifetime at a time.

In each dimension... your essential essence is intact... It matters not whether you are decrepit or glorious because ... You are completely intact. As crazy as it sounds... we are kind of like a divine computer program... and like a computer program ( one with divinity being its hard drive) ... you have a design that seeks to complete its own design... a cosmic circuitry if you will and the goal is to LEARN. Both humans and computers have to learn something at least once to really process it for it to be of any good use.

I dont care if you are homeless, rich, mentally ill or perfect. There is nothing lacking in the pure essential form of you... the math that makes us up is fantastic... and there is a definite constant in the equation... you.

You are a trajectory of unavenged thought that is both shooting and trailing through the DNA of the Human Genome. Where the past present and future is happening simultaneously. When you think of the ultimate purpose for a human being... what comes to mind? We come here with a plan in hand and so it makes sense that at the very core of us... our building blocks... sweet DNA... well... our genome has an ultimate purpose as well now doesn't it?

It is an inherent intuition in humans to want to know what their own individual purpose is... The human design seeks to learn about its own design... when it has success... a collective cheer and admiration bubbles up to the surface of our consciousness...you see it all the time when some one finds their purpose ... the big wave surfers... the ultra grease monkey motorcycle builders, the singers who make you squeel and cry... the artists that start a movement... The Freedom fighters who change the way we see the world... change us for the better.... and the hardest won purpose... the ones who die so that we might learn to find better way to live... PURPOSE IS KEY to how we learn what we need to learn here. Purpose connects us to everything and to each other.

and the Human Genome has a purpose too... its called EVOLUTION baby.

and collectively what do you think we as humans have felt is the ultimate evolution a human can arrive at? There was a time that we valued the human that has developed and now embodies the altruistic heart. There truly is nothing more gorgeous here than that. Our examples of this beauty in humanity have been literally killed off. Ghandi, MLK, JFK just to name a few... We seem to have abandoned this ideal altogether and I believe the reason why so many of us here seem to be de-evolving is because there has been a shift away from that kind of value system. Man has chosen to honor other things and this could be why our collective consciousness is so hurting right now.

And it really doesn't help that there is also something perpetuating this problem.
the micro reflects the macro... and I believe the big truth here is that... what we do here... we learned from what is being done to us... we are after all just children. Children learn from other children. And the child's ultimate design, its most accessible evoltuion is to grow up. Whatever and who ever we are learning from... needs to evolve as well.

I think you can all at least agree with me in the idea that what we are experiencing life through... Is Energy. and how do we view energy here? I think looking at what humans do with energy might help us understand why we are where we are now... ( um we consume the **** out of it, we created a whole trade system around it, starved and killed others for it, frighteningly, we suppressed it and with held it to make a few select humans very rich and accepted this as acceptable despite the fact that many died and many more might die, and even more frightening... we polluted the world with it when we couldn't control it and when it did not suit us financially to clean it up, we suppressed the truth of what we had done. In regards to energy... The very few weighed their options against all of ours and said simply...**** you.)
and here is where it gets a little into the sci fi realm but I want you to run through here with me because I really wanna get us to the other side of this particular abyss...

As a collective group of energy; that being the collective energy of mankind... MANKINDS MATTER we have used energy as gluttinous consumers... so it stands to reason that we are not the only things in the universe that go through resources like an endless supply of toilet paper.... and I am arguing that like children... the way we learn is through others here... and we are being fed this belief system from something that feeds off this kind of energy.

And a very big problem is that we have been brought up to believe that it is okay to take the most precious thing we know ( Life) and turn it into a hot commodity. Something in us does care though... when our consumerism was at its polluting worst, some of us rose up and rallied for recycling plans to save the planet from ourselves... to save us from us... the altruistic aspect of our genome flexed its muscle and we learned collectively that it was important to preserve our environment. BUT when it comes to the preserving and saving of our own lives... we lack fore sight and we also lack hindsight.

WE cant see our future and we cant see our ancient past... and I believe there is something using us in the similar manner that we have done to our own world... for what ever reason... our collective apathy and ugliness is a hot commodity for something out there... something horrid is feeding off this energy... I mean why else is there so much in the media about the ugly aspects of humanity... why is the news all death, war, fear mongering and competition? why is everything black or white, yes or no? right or wrong? Republican or Democrat. cash or plastic? why are we only offered dualistic options for everything? It feels like we are being fed an entropic and necrotic diet of helplessness on a daily basis and I am asking you to now stand up and ask yourself why?.... why do we want to accept this? The very saddest aspect to this diet is that it is not the whole truth of what we are experiencing... we are being offered a meal of famine and why? Because the universe is not only dualistic... it is also multidimensional. A myriad of ways to think and be... and yet we are constantly being reduced to the lowest common denominator for everything. Why?

The reason I think this happening is because something ( and I don't know what it is quite yet) is consuming what this kind of thinking creates. It finds fear tasty, Guilt delicious, Greed... to die for, poverty priceless, and it is making a big old sundae of sickness topped off with a bright red human heart... embalmed like a maraschino cherry from hell.
These are forces that think they own you and can do with you what they want and they work to keep you confused and enslaved. They feed off of everything you think and keeping you in fear and angry and guilty and greedy is manna for these mo fo's. Our worst 1950s alien invasion has come true... we are being groomed and fattened up so that we may be consumed... and what they are feeding on is what they cannot cultivate on their own... but if we want to stop being consumed... we have got to quit acting like them... we have got to quit being just as bad as they are... and start becoming more of what we would like to have mirrored back.. We have to stop our own cannibalistic consumerism of our collective well being.

We have a choice to stop feeding them... we dont think we have a choice but we absolutely do. We Have FREE WILL!!!!!!

we have the power to not be afraid of anything they can throw at us... Hello Fukishima
we have the power to love ourselves and then go out and even love those that would harm us.
we have the free will to choose many ways to be and when we are presented with only two ways of being...the two they always try and shove down our throats... we can opt for our hearts desire instead.
instead of yes or no... remember MAYBE
instead of only black and white remember the rainbow... we got that groovy double rainbow dude trying to wake us up... pretty adorable that guy
instead of right or wrong... remember equanimity, compassion and sovereignty and the altruistic heart!
Remember that the golden thread that runs through you and then right through me is the unavenged trajectory of evolution. And there is no me if there is no you. As above... so below.

And in the wise words of my friend Earls Aunt Lottie secure inside of your hearts the idea that " There are enough ways in this world for everyone to have one of their own."

we have the power to go in and clean up Fukishima... but it will take some brave people willing to lay down their lives in order to do so.
The forces behind the decision to not clean it up... dont care what happens to us or the earth.
And My question is how much longer are we going to accept the unacceptable?
how much longer are we going to stand for this creepy dualistic culture of repression and fear? And when are we going to be beautiful enough to accept our collective responsibility?

and maybe it is my ego talking here.. but I dont want to go down in the annals of history as the era of humanity that polluted its lands and killed off all its people because it refused to accept any responsibility for what it had created. I dont want them to remember that we cared more for profit than people and I believe with every fiber of my being that there is a dimension out here that does things differently, does things only with an altruistic heart and I am a part of it and I believe you are a part of it as well.

my hope is there is still hope here.
the most important thing you can do right now though... and the easist thing you can do... is turn off the fear monger machines... and not fear anything anymore. It is what it is. accept and act in a way that helps the situation. Throw guilt, fear, anger, hate, and intolerance back into the laps of those that like to keep you in that state and walk away for good... because they have their own evolution they must go through. Hand them back their creepy diet and say a big old **** THIS with all the love you got.
weed them out of your heart and wish them well. It is imperative that you no longer fear anything... even death. It is imperative that you love the **** out of yourself. This is good energy and the world needs it desperately right now.

nuts and bolts ya'll... bare minimum **** here... LET US WORK TOGETHER TO CHANGE THE COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS OF HUMANITY SO THAT WHATEVER IS AHEAD OF US... HAS SOME GOOD RESULTS.

PEACE
LOVE
COMPASSION
RESPONCIBILTY FOR OURSELVES AND EACH OTHER AND THIS GREAT PLANET

FIRST GIVES THESE THINGS TO YOURSELF
AND THEN LET IT SPREAD OUT FROM YOU TOWARDS OTHERS.

EMBRACE THIS LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT BECAUSE I AM PRETTY SURE IT DOES

AND ACT ON IT IN EVERYTHING YOU DO AND WITH EVERYTHING YOU GOT.

I absolutely love us. WE are loved and holy beings. lets start acting like it.

Here are the hundredth monkey links as I promised:


http://www.wowzone.com/monkey.htm click me

http://www.testament.org/testament/100thmonkey.html click me

The 100th (Hundredth) Monkey - story about social change (wowzone.com) WOW Poetry, lyrics, music, st
www.wowzone.com
wow is wish only well - the most positive and

RunningDeer
1st July 2012, 13:22
Great post, 9eagle9. :bump:


And the Earth responds, not in defense but to clarify her own merit. And She asks some unnerving questions.

Question her if you dare.

On your purpose.

You came here to me with some purpose in mind? Without attending to your purpose whatever it may be, You imposed your conditions on me. Attend to your purpose and I will attend to mine.

My wild life have always lived by the living. One dies in order to live.That is a condition of this world that you cannot change. You cannot save every tree from fading to dust so that fungi may live.

Those are conditions of this density this 3d realm in which I REPRESENT. But is not the entirety or wholeness of me.

Do you understand?

It is YOU , who have came here with your purpose and imposed your conditions on me…and in doing so…you have created conflict within yourselves…you have denied the necessary condition of death in life everlasting.

On lying, for you live in a self imposed lie, a condition. I

I know you intend not to lie, and lie is not a moral value on my realm of existence that you have chosen to sit upon. The coyote lies, the horse lies, the crow is a trickster. You cast moral value on that which I gave the means to give form, and then cast it at each other?

Why?

Lack of understanding creates suffering.

I understand you perfectly so how would I suffer from you? I have the experience of you over generations to know and understand you very well. I’ve watched you for milllenia and know you well.
You are hear for a few scant years and claim to know me better than I know myself?


You speculateabout your place in the universe. It’s here. For now. Until you choose to go elsewhere taking your conditions with you.

Understand….

All those other places you yearn for are in your midst. Now. You consider that I do not know the universe when I know very well, the universe BEING a part of it, and my very well KNOWing my place in it.

And I know what I am composed of. I know what you are composed of. You are composed of the same thing as I.

Knowing what I am composed of, I know.

It is YOU who do not know that, and you have arrogance to tell me I am composed differently.

You pound the pulpit and state forth I have consciousness yet you think it is some how suppressed and powerless and that it can speak ony through the conditons you’ve place on me. I am speaking now. Challenge me if you will in regards to who knows more of our compistion. I ...or ...you?

I am powerful, and I express powerfully. Can you notion and express the tides and create continents,and mounains?

No? You have not created those things, I have. Then how do you know so much more than I?

You state that all things are eternal and then conversely cry about death. You cry about the suffering you have created and imposed on each other. But you did not impose it on me..not I!

I am not suffering.

I AM inconvenienced. I still glow with life and vibrancy and for those who are not assigning conditions…they see me as such.

Inconvenience and suffering are not the same things.

Humans bear their young in suffering but you forget…I am not human.

Mother's bear the condition of inconvience when they bring forth young. Surely those who are mothers among you know this. If you do not, I would ask you who’s skin have you lived upon for millennia. Do you think when I accepted you upon my skin that I didn’t perceive that you may inconvenience me?

ON suffering.

You think I am suffering? That there are among you those who cause me suffer? The suffering you see in me is the suffering you feel for yourself. You feel you have no voice and suffer for it so put a value of suffering on my own. And thus give me a voice through your suffering. I deny it.

Do I resent that? No its meaningless for that is not the way it is. As you have reassinged me the name of Gaia, you have reassigned me a value of suffering but neither changes my nature. I am nature. You cannot change my nature by reassigning values to me.

How little you value yourself…in doing so how little you value myself and those who live among you. What of those who do not suffer on my skin what value have they brought to the whole?

I accept these conditions yet you do not accept the conditions you’ve imposed on yourself ? Of course not, you do not accept the conditionsf that provided you the physical means to fulfill your purpose here. My conditions. Which of course are universal conditons not yet perceived by you. They are however perceived by me. You have assigned me a value of being your Keeper, yet you trust that I do not know the values, or conditions, that keep us all.

These I would let you know but you are attracted by your own suffering.

You know of conditions. You do it yourself. Daily I observe one of you stating: This is my place, my rules, my conditions.

Yet you do not acknowledge conditions of my own? Where do you think you are living at precisely?

You seek to rise above these conditions? I grant those conditions will exist in any dimension, all dimensions exist here, the conditions of those dimesions will exist….anywhere. They are not of my design, they are condtions o the universe. Any place you go in the universe you will find those same conditions.

I grant you blessings in your endeavors however….you must first know the condtion for what it is, before you can over come it, no? You can do that here, if you would allow. This I would make known to you if you would allow it. But…your conditions allow it not.

You’ve converted all my conditions into a fable more to your liking, thus creating a condition that dwells only in yourself that makes it harder to overcome the authentic conditions in the first place. Which are not insurmountable at all.

Until you made them so.

There are conditions that you do not know of …but only because of your actions..your refusal to accept that which is natural to me. You even impose on me a name that is not my own to further alter my nature. You cannot alter my nature . I AM nature. You know this. Why do you now object? I care not for our compliance or agreement, you have a condition of free will. Your objection or agreement will change nothing about me. I too....have free will. We are all composed of the same conditions.

It s natural. To us. To us all. To the universe. I am subject to the same condtions as the rest of universe because I AM a part of the universe.So I agree to those conditions. It is you who think you are not part of the universe because you have imposed your own conditions of separaton and suffering.

You think your conditions would be better in some other part of the universe? Not until you set your own self created condtions down. You’ve chosen to fulfill some purpose here. You chose. You created the condtions. Does the stage make directions to the actors who move upon it?

It is your conditions that you have created that you do not accept. Even as you create those conditions you do not accept them. You ARE suffering …you wish to impose it on me…I say….

No.


And in that... I have not suffered. On my behalf or yours.

Accept it or not. Regardless of what you do does not change my conditions. You however, can change yours. If you want light its there now…on me, in us, among us…if you want a lesser dense existence its there …now. If you want the fifth dimension and all others.... its yours there, here among us, on me, now.

Its not mine to offer,nor yours.

That is what we you and I are all composed of. It's there for the taking when we are unblinkered from our conditions. I am there in all dimensions...where are you?

Do I deny suffering?

How could I deny the expression of that exists in every fold of me, but I did not create?

You did. You are the ones who deny.

Do I deny you? Of course not. If that were so you’d not be here now.

Every one of you created the condition of suffering. . Those who imagine suffering and those who inflict it created it.

I balance all that you wrong.

Are there those who are starving?

Yes and it was my condition, universal condition, that no one walk upon my skin and starve. I do not suffer for starving, the starving suffer…not I. I am not starved. I am fed and kept by universal law in which I keep honor of.

You…keep not.

Do YOU feel hunger because the starved and suffering do

? Only because you have imagined those conditions in yourself. I know as I know you all that you are not experiencing starvation.

But for those who are fat and crying for the starved, what are you doing to create...or abate…starvation?

It suffices to say that weeping over it does not abate. I rain every day …yet your arid conditions remain.

However there is a balance to starvation.

It is gluttony. Greed. Obesity. Too much to balance too little. There is no imbalance, the starving balances the gluttony. The greed balances the starving. Those are YOUR conditions.

You asked for balance and I complied to your conditions.

Do you wish to change that?You created it in the first place so rearrange your conditions.

I didn’t create the condition, it is violation of MY condition. It is a violation of all universal law, and the universe and all its conditions and dimensions... is that which you and I are composed of.

Where do you find argument in this? I know your reistance know this moment of it...I feel it. Your resistance; you are creating yet another condition. You now venerate and loathe me for my words.

You think I’m awry?

The conditions I brought forth are to awry?

I am greater than in you by condition-mass, gravity--I am wiser than you, I know of the alchemy between wood, water, fire, earth, and air and you claim you know better than I? I provided the means to create your physical body…Yet…You claim to know all about what I have created down through the vastness of etnerity?

. To impose your suffering upon me, and claim authority over WHICH I HAVE provided the means to create! What is that?

No. No argument there; I refuse it now as I have done throughout the ages. You have not even the means to argue with me...or defeat me. You may put whatever words of mine in your mouths as you please but you will not change the nature of me.

Or those who carry my authentic voice from simple acknowledgment of my conditions you can silence not. That is my condition.

You think that you have come here , this visitor with a purpose, that our purpose is of more value than what I have created? That I am some object of powerlessness that you have the means to abate? Or that you know more than what I have created within the bowels of myself. Did it come forth from you? Did I? You know that you did not. You know that I did not. Yet you will continue on as if you have some authority over me. You do not. I speak for myself though those who accept and know my conditions. Take a time to walk that which is undisturbed in my world and it will compare to you the conditions I have set forth,

On Comet Elenin and Niburu.

Did it every occur to you that perhaps I call my sister planet forth, she is my MY kin, the comet-kin I could call forth---all that which you ponder and worry as if your anxiety were of your control, someone’s control, out of control? Those are my kin, we are universal, we are one.

What are you? Do you know? I know. Yet you insist you know better.

You insist that you interpret what I am calling forth quite on your behalf as a source of anxiety. Did you come here so that I may alarm you ? That I would set conditions of an untimely death for you? Those who know everything but the condtions of your own existence surely would not know why I would call forth MY KIN.

Do You trust me? You claim to weep with me but you trust me not?

I called forth that which alarms you so. What will you do then?

Would you call in that which would destroy you? Do you think I would? If you think so..you trust me not. Even as I have kept you for millennia upon millennia you trust me not.

Yes. If you did not know the condtion of destruction. Would I? I know what destruction is, I wreak it daily. Life is built upon destruction.

On Physical Being.

I have spilled forth the means to create your physical body for I am a physical being. Yet you claim to know more than I about the whole matter of physicality , the one who created and provided those means. You suggest you know the alchemy of mylself exists in your mind when it clearly of a physical construct? I will correct you. It exists in me, I am part of all unvieral law. Do you deny that I am part of the universe?

You are entertaining idle thoughts and then substantiating them as mine. I don’t think, I do. I am. I do not need to think or feel to be. I will be long after you’ve finally learn to break your conditions and see me for what I am.

And you wonder why you suffer?

I should suffer…only because of the condition that you are inflicting it on each other?!

Consideration.

Consider the wild children. The beast, the fowl. . They express my conditions. Does the bird care or condition what you are doing as it builds its nest, and takes to flight?

They abide MY conditions, not yours. The dolphin did not arrive here and demand to live on land. It accepted what it knew of itself and aligned itself in pre existing conditions.

Who among us calls the dolphin dumb?

Ever wonder why so many wild-kin have a natural smile upon their face? For those of you who belive that is an accident, it is designed by understanding conditions..

Watch them. Do they wilt away the day wondering what their neighbor the deer ate? Or what morality the wolf holds? They are in their being, being what they are because they know the conditions, they do not have to think them.. . The care- take their nest, they migrate, they kill , the living live from the dying, and the dying live again from the living. They do exactly what they are here to do. They provide food, shelter and warmth-to themselves and to you. They know. You do not.

They have not a religion or obsess over the spiritual. If you came here with a purpose, learn from their purpose. They are not in conflict; they only have yours imposed on them.

On Death.

Will you die?
Yes, if you didn’t want to die why are you here? In his place that you know very well has a condition of death? It is because you are obsessed with death that you came here. The universal law of attraction at work. Who created death? Are we not all attracted to that which we create?

Will I die? Perhaps.

Eventually if I choose it to be so. I Know and have the experience of that which you only speak or speculate on: Death, life regeneration, it has existed here long before you ever came along. The conditions of the universe. Death and life ever lasting.

I know death, and I know the regeneration of life everlasting and how it is wrought, through air, spirit, wind, and fire, soil, and ilght and that which is created from stirring that together. Why else did my wise ones call me the Cauldron?

And I know what creates suffering in that cycle which should be suffered not. Not avoided. Not suffered.

If you view this place as a place of suffering I ask why you came here. I do not suffer, that which exists within my realms is not obligated to suffer.They’ve chosen to suffer.

I am a part of the universe and all that that implies. I know every dimension of that which I am a part of—all of them. When I came to my existence I knew. How can you exist in those conditions, within, and without, and not know what you are composed of.

You wish to go to another dimension? The universe is composed of dimensions and I am a part of the universe, that which you seek ….you are in the midst of those variables… now. Your conditions you have imposed on yourself , your false authority over me has blinded you to them.. You will come to my conditions, the universal conditions that you refer to as law …

As always it has been your choice. You honestly believe that I have chosen to suffer?

No. In doing so all that live upon my skin would suffer as well. Equally.

. I am part of the universe, I know and express all its conditions, all its alchemy, all its light and dimension and vibration. The condtions did not change. You did.

Your conditions only allow you not to see things as they really are.

On HARRP activity.

My conditions-- the quake, the fire, the flood, are the result of falsely composed conditions? Yes, Some.

And some are often my answer to those conditons falsely imposed on me. They mimic an expression much like my form, without my intention, and I respond. Woud you prefer I did not, and just allow those false conditions imposed on Me, on you, go unanswered?

You do not know the difference becaue you are no different than they, so why do you make judgement?

Imposing false conditions on me and I refuse in kind by a like and equal response. Do you have the knowledge to know which is which?

You claim no responsibility in this matter, yet in the next breath state you are One?

Do you truly imagine that a condition imposed on me would not be met with a more powerful condition from myself in this place of cause and effect. You think there are those among you more knowledgeable and powerful than I?

You have no power over me.. Not ‘they’, not you!

Would you be kicked in the teeth and not effect in kind a valuation of your own life? Do you think I would?

If it is the expectation that I would keep you till your purpose was through, do you think I’d not watch out for you?. Those acts I can do.

The only thing I cannot do is choose your conditions for you. Just as you cannot impose your conditions on me.

Those who have made the assumption that I protect you all, how exactly do you think I perform this without the condition of cause and effect?

On what is yours.

Your body? You chose it. I gave forth the means and substance to create it along the will of your fashioning. That which you claim fully and live in so deeply is of course…yours. I provided you the means in which for you to have it, do you think I would not know fully of its nature having provided the means? I am nature. Of course I would know what is natural.



I am breaking from that which you have imposed on me. Hinder me not, challenge me if you are able. But you cannot. You create your own conditions here...they do not apply to me.

Are you? Are you truly able to challenge that which you were formed from? Universal conditions apply, I am composed of that which composes the universe as we all are. We can be one in compliance of the condtions that I express…our you may experience your suffering…your separation.

It has been, and always has been...your choice.

Melinda
1st July 2012, 15:16
Thank you for this thread; I was moved by the opening post and it resonated deeply. Some beautiful posts here that are inspiring to read.
Several years ago, I began to feel the call to mother earth very strongly. One day I was in the park, meditating by the trees at the edge of a clearing, and I felt a pure stream of energy from the earth. She had heard me, and uplifted me. I felt connected to her. At that moment I was filled with the longing to tidy her surface, but was disgruntled to find I didn't have a little plastic bag in my pocket (which I often carry around to help collect the litter in the park.) At that moment I looked up to my right. In the far distance at the other end of the park was an empty white plastic bag. I looked at it and felt a huge gladness. At that moment a breeze began to stir around it. The bag lifted gently off the ground and began to fly gracefully, straight across the park, towards where I sat. On its last stretch it danced a little to the right, a little to the left, so I held out my hand and it glided into my palm. Many blissful minutes of picking up rubbish :)

Was it telekinesis, coincidence, or (I like to think) mother earth and her matrix acting in support? :) Who can say? Whichever way, it was bliss.
I have my share of grumpy days and difficult emotions, which serve their purpose; but I remember the clear synchronicity of that moment and remember what is possible. For all of us. Working collectively or acting alone, it feels to me as though all our meditations and practical actions that stem from our hearts connect in a wonderful grid of energy and intent around this magnificent planet. Big or small, male or female, all our hearts are of tremendous value in tending each other and our home, whether blossoming with psychic gifts or simply putting our hands and minds to good use. We can be miracle makers. This forum does some wonderful things.

niki
15th July 2012, 17:48
But, to the skeptics and "materialist/worldly' and/or atheist's eyes:

"if it all really boils down to FREE WILL,
then, what's the point of all these long posts (including the OP)?
Shouldn't Occam's Razor work the best here?"

CD7
15th July 2012, 21:26
But, to the skeptics and "materialist/worldly' and/or atheist's eyes:

"if it all really boils down to FREE WILL,
then, what's the point of all these long posts (including the OP)?
Shouldn't Occam's Razor work the best here?"



To keep us spinning in LOOPS....:biggrin1:

write4change
15th July 2012, 22:37
Thank you to those who revived this thread. I would not have been able to read it and hear it and feel it, if you had not done so. Let's have an aniversary thread celebration and do it again.

I to know Gaia lives as an embodied soul and asks us to choose symbiotic man and not burning man which is now 35 years of celebrating wanton youth that has served no purpose. Symbiotic man is growing up to "knowing" that we all reap what we sow.

niki
16th July 2012, 03:47
But, to the skeptics and "materialist/worldly' and/or atheist's eyes:

"if it all really boils down to FREE WILL,
then, what's the point of all these long posts (including the OP)?
Shouldn't Occam's Razor work the best here?"



To keep us spinning in LOOPS....:biggrin1:

meaning?...
please explain in more layman terms.
and btw, that was a serious question on my part,
hope somebody (or anybody) here could give some good & rational answers to my question :)

CD7
16th July 2012, 05:11
But, to the skeptics and "materialist/worldly' and/or atheist's eyes:

"if it all really boils down to FREE WILL,
then, what's the point of all these long posts (including the OP)?
Shouldn't Occam's Razor work the best here?"








To keep us spinning in LOOPS....:biggrin1:

meaning?...
please explain in more layman terms.
and btw, that was a serious question on my part,
hope somebody (or anybody) here could give some good & rational answers to my question :)



It was a serious answer on my part :)... my response was referring to "if it all boils down to free will, then , whats the point of all these long posts....

Us spinning in LOOPS was something i read in another thread tht discusses all of us trapped in a time loop tht just continues to repeat itself with things never really changing BUT appearing to do so. WHATS THE POINT OF ALL THESE LONG POSTS really hit home and made me think about the LOOP! As i have observed in alternative media forums---It continues to be the same thing over and over again with the "appearance" of something new.


WHEN ITS ALL SAID AND DONE....ANY CHANGE will be UNRECOGNIZABLE from anything here (world)-----

4evrneo
17th August 2012, 20:23
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She looked back at me, eyes brimming. “I can hear the cry”, she said. “It’s getting louder. I can’t bear it. It’s overwhelming.”

I looked at her intently, realizing. “The cry of the collective, and Gaia”, she said. “All the people, animals, all the plants, all the trees. There’s so much pain, so much suffering, so much violence. I feel it all. I hear it all. Every minute of every day. It never stops. I can’t stand it. And it’s getting louder all the time.”

First of all, Thank you so much for this posting. When I read this, I was overwhelmed with tears, because I have not been able to put into words what I have been feeling the last 5 months. I dont hear Gaia's cries, but I get a deep overwhelming feeling of connection sometimes when Im sitting outside alone. Im usually contemplating how beautiful it is and at that point a flow of emotion overtakes me and I feel such sadness and despair for the way in which we have not treated her with the respect she deserves. Since this is all so new to me, I wasnt sure what to think of this at first. I have never had the opportunity to be arund others that feel anything like this, in fact I dont have anyone in my family or circle of friends that have any idea of what I am going through or even what I am talking about so other than my boyfriend, I havent expressed these things.

I have been deeply touched and moved by this post and feel this is more than a message to me somehow, I will be contemplating this much further and hopefully find the answer very soon. Im actually trying to move out of the city now because I feel a strong urge to be closer to nature. Im praying this happens within the next month or two.

Bill, I truly appreciate you sharing your time and wisdom. I am learning and experiencing much growth ! (with the exception of how to post properly still) :o

All my blessings,
Annette

wynderer
17th August 2012, 20:48
i agree -- what a beautiful thread, & what a beautiful post from Annette below

i also have wept for Mother Earth & what is being done to her many times [ & i am a peaceful Animal Rights activist]

it is good to know that there are others here at Avalon who have compassion /love for her -- i like to think that her soul, & those of all the other innocent beings who share this planet w/Humans, that their souls will lead the way into the new timeline/thru the Shift

wyn



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She looked back at me, eyes brimming. “I can hear the cry”, she said. “It’s getting louder. I can’t bear it. It’s overwhelming.”

I looked at her intently, realizing. “The cry of the collective, and Gaia”, she said. “All the people, animals, all the plants, all the trees. There’s so much pain, so much suffering, so much violence. I feel it all. I hear it all. Every minute of every day. It never stops. I can’t stand it. And it’s getting louder all the time.”

First of all, Thank you so much for this posting. When I read this, I was overwhelmed with tears, because I have not been able to put into words what I have been feeling the last 5 months. I dont hear Gaia's cries, but I get a deep overwhelming feeling of connection sometimes when Im sitting outside alone. Im usually contemplating how beautiful it is and at that point a flow of emotion overtakes me and I feel such sadness and despair for the way in which we have not treated her with the respect she deserves. Since this is all so new to me, I wasnt sure what to think of this at first. I have never had the opportunity to be arund others that feel anything like this, in fact I dont have anyone in my family or circle of friends that have any idea of what I am going through or even what I am talking about so other than my boyfriend, I havent expressed these things.

I have been deeply touched and moved by this post and feel this is more than a message to me somehow, I will be contemplating this much further and hopefully find the answer very soon. Im actually trying to move out of the city now because I feel a strong urge to be closer to nature. Im praying this happens within the next month or two.

Bill, I truly appreciate you sharing your time and wisdom. I am learning and experiencing much growth ! (with the exception of how to post properly still) :o

All my blessings,
Annette

ahauocha
15th January 2013, 02:58
Wow Bill,
It has been along time,yet a moment in time.
Gaia's cry is stronger than ever. The CRY i hear is Her War cry. She has had enough, Her teaching will refresh ALL enlightened humans.

This year 2013 is about Red Earth, Solar Pulsation. So listen to Her signs as given. The Calendar of Time given to me ends/ resets feb 13, 2013. Pay attention , with one Sacred movement, America would be in shock and awe.

There is life --everlasting-- the Great Mystery. We have done this before, ancient history teaches from all directions.
The foundation is laid for the 5th World. I came, learned lessons, taught and did the best i could--with how i was taught.

I trust you Mother Earth, do what you need to do. I thank you for all you give.
It is a good day to live forever---Hoka Hey

gooty64
15th January 2013, 03:30
a good cleansing would not surprise me

Anchor
15th January 2013, 03:49
This year 2013 is about Red Earth, Solar Pulsation. So listen to Her signs as given. The Calendar of Time given to me ends/ resets feb 13, 2013. Pay attention , with one Sacred movement, America would be in shock and awe.

I look forward to a cordial debate with you on this subject no sooner than the 14th February.

yukondiva
17th January 2013, 19:34
What a wonderful post. Perhaps there is a solution while meditating i have had snakes crawl into my lap deer kiss my nose, and so many other experiences with the wild world. The pain and sufferiing is real but when you have those feeelings remember we are in this world for that connection good or bad we observe we send our love in thoughts to raise the conciousnus of the whole. That there is love and compassion youremotions are proof.

ahauocha
18th January 2013, 13:02
This year 2013 is about Red Earth, Solar Pulsation. So listen to Her signs as given. The Calendar of Time given to me ends/ resets feb 13, 2013. Pay attention , with one Sacred movement, America would be in shock and awe.

I look forward to a cordial debate with you on this subject no sooner than the 14th February.
I have awaken to frozen snow, healing lodge for woman--rained--thanks. The Fire, She was so gentle--unusually. As She truely was concerned for me, I got a healing too, yet much effort was required. My mud boots were getting stuck in the slosh. A wided stance as those red hot Holy people are forked in---wow. What a life, thanks Creator!!
I DID NOT mean to imply that 2-13-13 would be any different than 12-21-12. As you refreshed me with you Holy Tarot and words. There is no debate, I think were all realize--our actions, thoughts, words and prayers---ARE changing this 3D. It is a good Day, sometimes I just feel all the needles stuck in my skin , humans pumping toxic stuff in my sub Q, I go offf---Spewing. You are right, Love and Compassion, like Mother Earth, like so many. No matter what we do to them, they give us love and compassion.
I love to debate--prepare yourself
waterbro

powessy
1st March 2014, 05:32
She looked back at me, eyes brimming. “I can hear the cry”, she said. “It’s getting louder. I can’t bear it. It’s overwhelming.”

I looked at her intently, realizing. “The cry of the collective, and Gaia”, she said. “All the people, animals, all the plants, all the trees. There’s so much pain, so much suffering, so much violence. I feel it all. I hear it all. Every minute of every day. It never stops. I can’t stand it. And it’s getting louder all the time.”

I have read this thread many times always wanting to respond but unable to find the words. I would just like Inelia to know the suffering of Gaia will hopefully end soon, Gaia's pain and cries have been heard through out the universe, help is on the way.



She looked at me, asking me to understand. And I did. Like many humans, I’m a hypocrite: that means that I compartmentalize my experience for convenience. I wear a leather hat, and eat as much meat as I can. But I cannot bring myself to kill even a mosquito. I genuinely regard all living things as sacred. I have a dictum that I must never destroy anything I can’t create - which is why I save mosquitoes. Yet I deny my participation as a cavalier consumer.

We all play a part in the game of life, the main question is who is making the rules, what is the objective and do I want to be awake or asleep while playing. When I stop and question the reasons for the things I do, I just keep finding more and more interconnected things all of which I alone cannot change, but when I find things I can change, I to stop swatting those mosquito's.



Meanwhile, Inelia was directly experiencing the pain of Gaia. Through tears of compassion, she talked of the blind unawareness of the men in the slaughterhouses, the chemical farmers, the factory fishermen, the destroyers of the rainforests, the creators of wars. Those men and women who torture and kill millions of people, animals and trees every day. Those that think animals and trees don’t feel pain, fear, and terror, or relish the thought of inflicting these on the vulnerable. Those who deliver psychic and physical attacks to others.

It is not the butcher, farmer, fisherman, carpenter or warrior that causes Gaia to have so much pain, it is the greed of man and the lust of profits that leads to so much pain. If all man chose a spiritual path one that teaches sharing, love and compassion along with practicability the pain would be so much less. We are now more then ever knowledgeable of the changes that need to be made, but who will kick the fat cats off the ledge and apply the necessary changes. The world is changing but will it change fast enough to prevent a total lose of life?



“I only have one job. And that’s to raise the vibrational level of the planet, including the human collective, which is part of the planet, to a critical point that will allow a transition into the new paradigm, a new level of awareness for everything. For the planet and every being in it. Every rock, every insect, every person. And that’s my only job. And I will do anything to achieve that.”[/I]

Meaning: that if we raise the level of awareness of what Inelia calls the ‘collective’ – the group-mind and collective consciousness of the human race – then the murderers, rapists, polluters and destroyers will all be dragged along in the same collective direction – they HAVE to swim in the same rushing, accelerating river as the rest of us. In that way we are all connected… and with some of us leading the way, the rest will follow: even those humans with the morals and awareness of crocodiles.

But to Inelia, this was not enough. How to maximize the effect? How to reach those unreachable people? How to halt the pain and damage as soon as possible? How to educate the uneducable? How to release THEIR paw from the metal gate? Lovingly stop THEM from biting, and removing all gates where their paws might get caught?

Not all souls can ascend so the numbers of people Inelia can bring into her collective is limited to only these people. She needs to stop focusing on all the other stuff and only focus on Gaia and ask her to guide her to those of her collective, this is the only way to concentrate her energies.



Who will read these words we’re writing here? Not the killers and destroyers. We’re surely preaching to the converted: having read thus far, you’re almost certain to be in strong agreement.


How about those that will remain stuck in the illusion that are not killers or destroyers, I worry about these people everyday my tears go out to them for they will surly remain asleep and unaware.

Ravenlocke
8th March 2014, 19:30
Hi Bill,
thank you for this write-up...It made me remember something that happened to me a few years back. It was December 2003 on a late Saturday morning. I was with a friend inside a craft store shopping for some supplies to make some Christmas gifts. We had just got a shopping cart and starting to browse around. I happened to notice the music playing in the background, I think it was Christmas music when all of a sudden this WAVE of Grief and Loss hit me. That is as best as I can describe what happened to me then. I started crying and if I didn't have a cart in front of me I would have fallen to the floor sobbing. My friend came over and I told her I need to go home and check on my family. I could not shake the grief and sorrow that I felt and my friend quickly finished her shopping so I could go home. I remember I called my family and they were fine but the heaviness stayed with me. Long story short the news came about three weeks later, in the New Year of 2004 about the Tsunami that caused such a huge amount of deaths and destruction so quickly. I have experienced sorrow before even the loss of loved ones but this pain went to the core of my being.
With all the pain and suffering that seems to be escalating in this world I try to be the best I can be daily and keep the hope light burning. I am learning and practicing Forgiveness and Compassion as best I can....In hopes that it will bring the healing so very needed for the deep, deep, wounds inflicted on this beautiful jewel of a planet.

Zaya
7th July 2014, 14:10
First of all, I have just now been called to read this thread quite specifically, and the synchronicites I am experiencing thanks to hearing the call are somewhat astounding to me. I have been in a Funk. Yes, with a capital F. A spiritual Funk. I've been looking to blame many things -- possible psychic attacks, possible dream interference, unexplained debilitating health issues, etc. But this thread is a huge reminder to me what I'm fighting for and why I can't just lay down and cry with Gaia even when that's all I want to do. Thank you for sharing this with us even though I am very much tardy to the party, if you will. There is so much responsibility on all of us to stay afloat and work past all the bull.


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I looked at her intently, realizing. “The cry of the collective, and Gaia”, she said. “All the people, animals, all the plants, all the trees. There’s so much pain, so much suffering, so much violence. I feel it all. I hear it all. Every minute of every day. It never stops. I can’t stand it. And it’s getting louder all the time.”

This resonates with me so much that it almost hurts. As a highly empathic person, I feel this weight all the time too. Our people are suffering. And sometimes, all I want to do is join them. Because there are those forces in the world that tell us that succumbing to suffering is really the easy and correct choice. I want to lay down. Right now. But I won't. Because if I lay down, how does that affect my fellow souls? If I cry, do they feel it? I don't know. But I feel them, and sometimes I feel like I HATE it. Yes, a strong word. Today I realize that that is a choice I made. I chose to hate my spongy ability. I chose to take the negative energies and keep them rather than dispersing them to where they should be.

Gaia can only help those who want it, right? Isn't that the point of free will? Well let it be known that I am choosing the high road and won't lay down and cry with the negativity.


In my strong view, this is escapist wishful thinking. Any kind of get-me-outta-here-Scotty mindset is actually failing to take responsibility – certainly for those of us who have been here many lifetimes and who have in one way or another contributed to the mess we’re in. Many of us reading this have been here on Planet Earth for quite a while – and we have to face what we have done: we have to square up to what we’ve permitted to occur in our name.

Thank you. This is one of my biggest issues with many "highly religious" people's way of thinking. Many always "leave everything to God" or "trust in God" to fix their problems. I'm not one to speak for a God that I am not connected to personally, but I do not think that there is a person making everyone's decisions for them and gifting those he likes the most on a reward based system. This whole idea of "ascending" out of this place is absurd to me for this reason exactly. You don't get to just buy your way out of the matrix. Make the matrix a place you want to be. Then you don't have to be rescued from it. Take responsibility for this place. There is no magic solution or free trip out.


In my personal view, this is one of the key significances of the 2012 Tipping Point. 21 December 2012 is a distraction. The real significance of the year (certainly not one standalone day in that year) is that if we as the collective human race make the right choices, it will not be too late to re-create the balanced dynamic paradise that Planet Earth could be for all living things – and for mankind itself.

Bill, knowing that much time has passed since you posted this, I would love to inquire: How do you think our mattress doing in terms of inflating now?

I know many more are awake -- I guess I am proof of that. I was asleep in 2012. But if 2012 was the tipping point... well... did it actually tip?

Much love and hugs!

CarlS
21st May 2015, 01:30
The entire universe is alive. It is not just Earth that is alive with a being incarnated into it. I believe all stars and countless planets were created and incarnated into by beings. I'd guess the same applies to singularities. Those beings are our brothers and sisters. Maybe we are a sliver of awareness of a larger whole inhabiting our own personal star.

thunder24
21st May 2015, 01:34
The entire universe is alive. It is not just Earth that is alive with a being incarnated into it. I believe all stars and countless planets were created and incarnated into by beings. I'd guess the same applies to singularities. Those beings are our brothers and sisters. Maybe we are a sliver of awareness of a larger whole inhabiting our own personal star.

dig in the dirt and put sample under micro scope.....''I AM" there!

DebJoy
25th January 2017, 23:58
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Most readers will know that Gaia is most often associated with the term coined by the ecologist James Lovelock to describe the coherent, complex, balanced, living entity of Planet Earth in all its natural richness.

I (Bill) had always taken this as a metaphor – until I met Inelia. And so I tell this little story which follows against myself. To Inelia, it was self-evident that Gaia was a magnificent, fully sentient, godlike being. And when talking about this with me, she did what she often does when words are inadequate: she invited me to take her hands while she gave me a download of direct perception.

This she did: and I immediately perceived Gaia, a huge, eon-ancient entity that is our planet and all her multitudinous natural habitats. It was enormous, and strong, and solid, and eternal. I could feel her power. It was something literally awesome. I shall never forget that moment of first encounter. No doubt exists for me now about Gaia’s conscious reality.


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Gaia talks to Inelia all the time. And last month, when in Switzerland, I was inspired to ask for a direct communication. Staying for weeks in a small hotel room waiting for my US visa to be issued, I decided to take an afternoon out to climb a mountain.

I used to climb a lot of mountains, but this time I took the mountain railway to the summit. I’d been cooped up for weeks, and I expanded my awareness in gratitude and appreciation at the marvelous natural environment of rocks, trees and alpine meadows which we were passing through on the train. I am a mountain man to my roots, and I deeply love this kind of terrain.

Near the summit, the mist swirled around me as I climbed the rocks to the very top. And suddenly, feeling connected with Gaia, I had a wild thought. I said to myself, as if in prayer: “Gaia, if you can hear me, show me a Brocken Specter.”

Now, a Brocken Specter is a spectacular natural phenomenon which requires a precisely coordinated combination of sun, clouds, atmospherics and moisture. It consists of a huge shadow of oneself projected on the clouds below, surrounded by a rainbow halo. They’re very rare: in all my time in the mountains, years and countless expeditions all over the world, I have seen only a handful of Brocken Specters.

And suddenly, within maybe a minute and a half, one suddenly appeared. There it was. I spent half an hour filming it, in various stages of awe and disbelief. I was staggered. As in the movie Avatar, I found myself thinking: “Eywa has heard me.”


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That was over a month ago, in Europe. And now, we cut to today, in Sacramento, California. I had not seen Inelia for a couple of days, and she came round to see me towards the end of a very busy afternoon. It was wonderful to see her, as always. And as I gave her a hug, she collapsed in tears in my arms.

I looked at her, and held her hands, not knowing what was the matter.

She looked back at me, eyes brimming. “I can hear the cry”, she said. “It’s getting louder. I can’t bear it. It’s overwhelming.”

I looked at her intently, realizing. “The cry of the collective, and Gaia”, she said. “All the people, animals, all the plants, all the trees. There’s so much pain, so much suffering, so much violence. I feel it all. I hear it all. Every minute of every day. It never stops. I can’t stand it. And it’s getting louder all the time.”

She looked at me, asking me to understand. And I did. Like many humans, I’m a hypocrite: that means that I compartmentalize my experience for convenience. I wear a leather hat, and eat as much meat as I can. But I cannot bring myself to kill even a mosquito. I genuinely regard all living things as sacred. I have a dictum that I must never destroy anything I can’t create - which is why I save mosquitoes. Yet I deny my participation as a cavalier consumer.

Meanwhile, Inelia was directly experiencing the pain of Gaia. Through tears of compassion, she talked of the blind unawareness of the men in the slaughterhouses, the chemical farmers, the factory fishermen, the destroyers of the rainforests, the creators of wars. Those men and women who torture and kill millions of people, animals and trees every day. Those that think animals and trees don’t feel pain, fear, and terror, or relish the thought of inflicting these on the vulnerable. Those who deliver psychic and physical attacks to others.

Deeply moved, and in response, I read to her the opening paragraph of Thom Hartmann’s masterwork, The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight: (http://www.amazon.com/Last-Hours-Ancient-Sunlight-Revised/dp/1400051576)



In the 24 hours since this time yesterday, over 200,000 acres of rainforest have been destroyed in our world. Fully 13 million tons of toxic chemicals have been released into our environment. Over 45,000 people have died of starvation, 38,000 of them children. And more than 130 plant or animal species have been driven to extinction by the actions of humans. (The last time there was such a rapid loss of species was when the dinosaurs vanished.) And all this just since yesterday.
I was brought up in Africa. I’ve spent my life exploring wild places. Inelia has deep connections with sacred land in her native Chile, and a few years ago was brave enough to sail round Cape Horn in a small boat. When she was a little girl, she would pick hummingbirds off the branches of trees, and they would let her hold them in her tiny hands. They knew who she was; and they knew that they would not be harmed.


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Still through her tears of Gaia’s suffering, Inelia told me a story about violence and anger. Years ago, she had a German Shepherd, which had caught its paw in a metal gate. The dog was beside itself with anger and pain. Its head whipped backwards and forwards, snapping at anyone who tried to get near as it struggled to free itself.

Inelia walked up to it and held it firmly, but to get to its paw she had to put her arm between its jaws and the gate. In its pain it sank its teeth into her arm – which Inelia permitted it to do. Then after the paw was free, Inelia held the dog’s jaws tight, as it continued trying to bite. She held it against the ground firmly but gently. It calmed down - and she was able to release it, knowing it would no longer bite those around him. The wound in her arm healed without scars.


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The moral of the story? Humans, too, lash out in anger and violence, because they are in great pain and fear. “I’d like to hold them all in my arms”, said Inelia. “All of them. I’d like to show them that they are loved, and that they are safe. All the murderers, all the rapists, all the butchers of the seals, whales and dolphins, all the bloodthirsty workers in the abattoirs, the creators of wars.”

I listened to Inelia stating clearly through her tears that all violent men needed was love, safety and compassion. I suggested, attempting to reassure, that what she stated so eloquently in her video interview was sufficient:



“I only have one job. And that’s to raise the vibrational level of the planet, including the human collective, which is part of the planet, to a critical point that will allow a transition into the new paradigm, a new level of awareness for everything. For the planet and every being in it. Every rock, every insect, every person. And that’s my only job. And I will do anything to achieve that.”
Meaning: that if we raise the level of awareness of what Inelia calls the ‘collective’ – the group-mind and collective consciousness of the human race – then the murderers, rapists, polluters and destroyers will all be dragged along in the same collective direction – they HAVE to swim in the same rushing, accelerating river as the rest of us. In that way we are all connected… and with some of us leading the way, the rest will follow: even those humans with the morals and awareness of crocodiles.

But to Inelia, this was not enough. How to maximize the effect? How to reach those unreachable people? How to halt the pain and damage as soon as possible? How to educate the uneducable? How to release THEIR paw from the metal gate? Lovingly stop THEM from biting, and removing all gates where their paws might get caught?

Who will read these words we’re writing here? Not the killers and destroyers. We’re surely preaching to the converted: having read thus far, you’re almost certain to be in strong agreement.

My own answer is as follows.

Rupert Sheldrake brought us the concept of Morphic Fields and Morphic Resonance. Lynne McTaggart described ‘The Field’ in her best-selling book of the same name. We have an intuitive understanding of the Hundred Monkey syndrome, and of Tipping Points in general.

My personal strong feeling is we have to assume that, like blowing up an airbed (gradually, with an inefficient handpump), some corners of the mattress will inflate before others. When doing this, it almost always seems that nothing is ever going to happen – until a tipping point is reached and the rapidly inflating mattress all suddenly picks up and takes the desired shape as if by magic.

I think we’re in that kind of position now. The mattress doesn’t yet look like a mattress, and it seems as if it’s never going to inflate. We might think it looks hopeless. But soon – I do believe – things may start to feel different.

I want to say a word about ‘Ascension’ – and how the word is often misunderstood and misapplied. Some people really do think that they will literally ‘ascend’ out of here – as in some kind of ‘beam-me-up’ ‘rapture’ or rescue, possibly at the hands of helpful ETs or angelic beings.

In my strong view, this is escapist wishful thinking. Any kind of get-me-outta-here-Scotty mindset is actually failing to take responsibility – certainly for those of us who have been here many lifetimes and who have in one way or another contributed to the mess we’re in. Many of us reading this have been here on Planet Earth for quite a while – and we have to face what we have done: we have to square up to what we’ve permitted to occur in our name.

If we’re here to fix all this – which it’s very clear to me that we are – then we HAVE TO face what we’ve done. There’s no easy escape, and certainly no rescue. Rather, there’s a massive clean-up job waiting for people, tools, resources and organization to get started on… together.


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It may take several generations. Maybe many generations. But it’s do-able. Not just to repair the damage, but to educate the human race in understanding finally that we must live in balance and harmony with Gaia – or else we merely imperil ourselves. (Gaia will always be all right. She’s been around for several billion years, and is probably only half way through her lifespan as the Guardian-Goddess of this exquisitely beautiful planet.)

But there’s the real risk – for us, not for her – that if we do not learn the lessons that are for the taking, right here in front of our noses (and our wallets) - we may flunk the class and be destroyed. It could all happen terribly easily. And the choice is ours: collectively ours.

In my personal view, this is one of the key significances of the 2012 Tipping Point. 21 December 2012 is a distraction. The real significance of the year (certainly not one standalone day in that year) is that if we as the collective human race make the right choices, it will not be too late to re-create the balanced dynamic paradise that Planet Earth could be for all living things – and for mankind itself.

And if we make the wrong choices, our children may have a very rough time of it indeed. They would rightly blame their parents for not doing what they could when they had all the information available to them.

So guess what: it’s all about Free Will. Should we be surprised that the equation distills down to this again?


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Here are Inelia’s own words in conclusion:

It is not about who’s to blame. The solution has to be inclusive. Yes, we take responsibility in minimizing the pain and suffering of others through our actions. We eat meat from small farms, organic producers who love their animals. Yes, we buy furniture from renewable sources of wood, clothes from factories which don’t exploit people. But what of the perpetrators of fear and pain? We might hold them in our field of light, and allow Gaia to do her work. As a ‘singularity’ – I am but one person. But WE are many.

If we dedicate 10 minutes a day to holding these people in our collective light, it can make a huge shift for them and us. After the 10 minutes, let us focus on the compassion and love of the millions of lightworkers and lightwarriors around the planet, our brethren, so that our collective power increases -- making each one of us more able to accomplish our collective work.

I also feel the love, light and compassion of billions of people around the world. All those parents who hold their new born baby in wonderment and deep love, all those who behold our Mother Earth in awe as they sense Her power and compassion. I also feel millions of lightworkers and lightwarriors diligently doing daily acts of selfless love and compassion to bring light to others and the planet.

For every murderer there are 10 healers, for every abuser of animals, there are a thousand who hold animals in respect and equality. For every creator of war, there are millions of us who do not agree with that particular game.

If I didn't feel the LIGHT I would not be alive today. Mother Earth made the call for assistance, and we, all of us, are the answer to that call.


Bill and Inelia
17-18 June 2011


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I just finished reading this entire thread - what a treat! This is a beautiful thread and exactly why I came to Project Avalon - for the precious healing insights for ourselves and others and Gaea. And I have "replied with quote", so many can read the 1st post in its entirety right here. And this is 5 1/2 years later from the start of the thread, and the message is still so current. I look forward to hearing others' comments too. :heart:

At a recent San Pedro ceremony in Ecuador, I received so many beautiful insights. There was much emphasis on how important it was to really relish life, take huge pleasure in things that we enjoyed and to be rather "self-full" which is NOT being selfish. In fact, when we are full of ourselves, we are contributing much needed resources to the world, to Gaia Earth.

“You have been given so much. Use it.”
“Be nice. Be aware. Slow down.”
“What gives you pleasure? Do that. That is what contributes to Gaia Earth the most.”
“I am enough.”

Grandfather San Pedro reassured me that, “It makes no difference who you reach, that it’s all about energy and the energy you bring to your moments. It’s important to be thoroughly self-full, self-loving, self-appreciating, and reveling in what pleasures you, as only then are you a part of the breath of Gaia Earth – and each breath is a new birth. We need you – you are important!”

“I am part of the breath of Gaia – each breath is a new birth.”

“Love.”
“Appreciate.”
“Delight.”
“Laugh.”
“Play.”

I got a huge sense that in my raising my appreciation level, and taking huge delight in all that was around me that I joined in a very effective way in the Gaia Earth energy. I had a vivid sense of feeling my energy merging with the Gaia Earth energy, and in her every breath, she was creating and recreating herself in every moment, and I was a part of that action. This was not about Gaia Earth going through a rebirth into another dimension, as has been talked about by others, rather I sensed that Gaia Earth was inhaling and exhaling, and contracting with the creative energy and in every moment she was a new creation. Since my energy was at a sufficient level to participate, I felt myself break through and join the collective energy in breathing her new life in each moment. It was because I was so “full of myself” and appreciative and loving of myself that I was able to join in the collective ongoing birthing breath of Gaia Earth. And in so doing, while I was a part of the collective whole, it was as a fully realized individual set of loving energies that I joined and I remained aware of my individual self while being an integral part of the whole.

So I would encourage those who might think supporting Gaia Earth is magical and they don't know the magic, that it's all about bringing your JOY, your HAPPINESS, and what gives you PLEASURE to your life - and to be truly "self-full" (not selfish) in celebrating your beautiful individuality. This we can ALL do with ease - because we are drawing on that which is natural and is authentically us. For me, to experience this while in sacred ceremony, was a huge example of what I could (and AM) bringing to my life now. (The pictures show me with the enchanted quinoa trees in the Ecuador Cajas.)

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Ewan
26th January 2017, 11:58
Thank you DebJoy for bumping this thread and giving me the opportunity to also read the opening post.

I will share a couple of experiences from my own life which were brought starkly to mind in the process of that reading, specifically the references to animal murder.

In my early 20's and between jobs I took a position at a dog and cat shelter in the local city. I cleaned the kennels and made sure the dogs always had water, another responsibility involved driving an 'ambulance' to pick up strays from Police stations and occasionally people's homes where an elderly dog may have had a stroke or similar. It didn't take long to discover that once a week a vet would come to 'put down' the elderly, the sick and those deemed most unlikely to find a new home. It was a case of necessity as far as the shelter was concerned for they would rapidly run out of space were this 'culling' not to take place. Unfortunately I once got the job of taking the dogs to meet the vet. Some dogs, who had always been friendly and happy to be let out of their kennel to run the yard for a while became most reluctant to walk to the vets. Whether I was unintentionally transmitting the fate which awaited them I don't know but it was clear to me some dogs knew that going that way with me was not a good idea. Maybe all the dogs knew, and some just accepted their fate quietly. I lasted about 6 weeks there before I couldn't stand it any more. I wanted to save every dog, take them home with me, but it was impossible.

Several years later, touring Australia, I found that the Katherine 'meatworks' took on casual labour daily to cover shifts where the regular employee had not turned up. You just had to be there daily from about 5am and wait with fingers crossed. (The money was damn good). I was there for over a week every morning before I first got picked. Initially I was on 'hides', the skins were quite literally tumbled in an old cement mixer drum and then dumped in a pile. They needed stacked on pallets and it was some of the hardest work I'd ever done. Wet hides are heavy and the appearance of fresh skins seemed relentless. It was in those initial days I got the sense of just how many beasts were getting 'processed'. They have all these 'nice' words to avoid the truth of what they are doing.

About half a mile away from the main buildings were huge trenches gouged out of the ground where a 'dozer would pile in the refuse that just could not be used. The area stank of blood/death, and all the trees around were bare - instead of leaves carrion birds perched on every available space.

It was probably around this time I took an increasing interest in eating salads. I remember one guy angrilly stating he wasn't about to eat effing rabbit food when I mentioned it was good for you.

The breaking point in this job came for me on the day I was put on 'bloods'. (The sensitive may wish to skip the rest of this paragraph). A clinical type room, white tiles and stainless steel everywhere. A vacuum pump, tubes and needles, test tubes and polystyrene containers. In one corner a big stainless steel chute not dissimilar to a helter-skelter at the fair. When the killing began it wasn't long before the rumble of something coming down the chute was heard and a rather smelly wet balloon would slide along the bench towards me. It was the embryonic sac, complete with unborn calf. My job was to slice it open and allow the ambiotic fluids to just pour off the bench onto the floor, well equipped with drains, pull the unborn fetus out, scrape the skin to clean/dry it and then stab a needle into the best approximation of where the heart was, allowing the pump to drain the blood. The limp drained body was then slid off the other end of the table onto another chute where it slid down into a skip -awaiting its trip to the blood trenches previously mentioned. Mostly the unborn calves were around the size of a small dog, occasionally piglet size and once or twice seemingly only a few weeks away from being born. The blood was sealed in containers and refrigerated for shipping, apparently to cancer research labs.

I can't even guess as to what percentage of cows had been pregnant when killed, but I could deal with as many as 80 unborn in a shift. I did that for a week before I never went back. Ever.

Sometimes water buffalo would be killed also. They seemed more intelligent than the cows, they were always looking for ways to escape and they would watch everything that went on intently. All the animals seemed to know what the place was, I guess the smell of death was very apparent to them.

I don't believe I was at all awake at this stage of my life but I certainly had empathetic responses to the world around me that extended far beyond merely human concerns. Now nearly 30 years on I completely agree with Bill's statemnet regarding hypocrisy. I eat meat with hardly a second thought. When I can afford it I make sure I get humanely killed organic meat from a farming co-operation, most of the time I cannot afford it so I do my best to ignore it.

I am personally sure the planet is a living entity, probably with an awareness we cannot begin to comprehend. That everything on the planet is part of that life force in its own way. When I look at how we all live, the products most of us buy without a second thought, the refuse we collectively produce, the chemicals we use, clean your toilet bowl with 'this', (I refuse to do it), read the small print.. WARNING: May cause long term harm to aquatic life.. It is not difficult to extrapolate what goes on in one house to the whole street, from there to the village, town, city... around about there it gets to big to comprehend. Now all the major towns in a country, add all the cities, pile on the next few countries - it seems something of a miracle that we're still going. We complain about the big companies polluting and ignore the fact that collectively we are just as bad if not worse.

Whilst the biggest problem is a lack of awareness, a selfish case of convenience, it is not helped by the capitalist pursuit of profit which will cut any corner in the pursuit of healthy margins and ecology be damned.

I weep for the planet.

CD7
26th January 2017, 13:25
I don't hear her crying....I hear her screaming..I hear her rage. Very sad story Ewan...it becomes even sadder when you realize WE too are in the slaughterhouse...Everyday blood and guts down the shoot...Every FKIN DAY..
I am an animal that too sees and smells death in the assembly line

Akasha
28th January 2017, 23:54
Going vegan would be a start in stopping Gaia's tears. Just sayin'.......again.......

Constance
24th July 2019, 10:32
:bump: :bump:

For mother earth and all her creatures:cat:



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Mark (Star Mariner)
24th July 2019, 13:01
Thanks Constance, a great bump, I have no idea how or why I hadn't seen this before. And thank-you Bill, a beautiful opening post.

Some synchronicity too. Just last night I was on a downer. You could almost describe it as hearing the cry of Gaia. Because sometimes everything feels...so hopeless.

Maybe it's all the dark stuff now emerging about "what's been going on" behind the scenes. The things "they've" done and are doing. That's at the very heart of Gaia's primal scream I feel. Yet sometimes I feel very, very optimistic. Because there are far more good people on the Earth than bad. We hold the dominant energy after all, not them. So it will be all right. Other times, not so optimistic. So long as those who presently hold the reins of control and government and finance, as they have for centuries, remain in place, nothing, nothing will ever change.

Even so, sometimes I do feel like this time we're going to do it. We're going to break through. We're going to create a sparkling new reality, and nothing will ever be the same. Humanity come of age at last. And yet at other times I hear that primal scream, echoing in the hills, falling from the sky, rumbling in the ground beneath me. I've heard that terrible sound before. I feel it, and hear it, in my heart. It was 12,500 years ago. One day I feel Gaia's going turn around and say, 'I love you, but I'm sorry. I'm sorry I have to do this to you again...' And I don't think I'd blame her.

Ti
27th July 2019, 10:36
I've talked to the Earth and feel thusly confident I'm living in one of the safest regions in the world. In return I do small things for her like compost and let rabbits eat my greens, feed birds and squirrels, plant local wildflowers, and otherwise do kind things to benefit the little creatures of the world, whenever I find opportunities to help.


Even so, sometimes I do feel like this time we're going to do it. We're going to break through. We're going to create a sparkling new reality, and nothing will ever be the same. Humanity come of age at last. And yet at other times I hear that primal scream, echoing in the hills, falling from the sky, rumbling in the ground beneath me. I've heard that terrible sound before. I feel it, and hear it, in my heart. It was 12,500 years ago. One day I feel Gaia's going turn around and say, 'I love you, but I'm sorry. I'm sorry I have to do this to you again...' And I don't think I'd blame her.
Pretty sure both of those things are going to happen, they're not independent. Some places are going to get the rumbling drowning end, others will be left shellshocked to pick up the pieces of a mighty tragedy. Eventually it'll happen, one way or another. But it won't take everyone. It never takes everyone. Just enough to make a sizable change to the way of life.

Cheerful thought. Anyway, I try to keep the fact that our thoughts direct us, and thusly think about the fact that we're gonna do it, and just try to tune into the Earth and ask what she needs and do my best with what I have.

Interesting old thread. It is nice to see I'm not alone in receiving... eh, I'll say empathic impressions from Gaia. I do seriously think we're on the positive timeline. More and more people I know are starting to really care about doing things to make a difference! When it comes to the circle around me, it's vastly positive aligned. Especially when it comes to sustainable decisions. Less and less waste. Only only person in my friend group has a car they use daily! Almost everyone I know has reusable bottles, straws, and now I'm starting to see reusable takeout containers and non-disposable wraps for food and reusable cleaning products everywhere. People are making good decisions for the earth more often than not as it's brought to their attention where changes can be made. It's not too late to turn this ship around and get it in line with Gaia. At least, where I live, I'm sure that's the case. I'm not sure about all the world though. I have an uncomfortable feeling and burst into tears inexplicably whenever I look at a couple of areas on the map. I think a few places might be too far gone and some kind of tragedy will take them and rebalance the Earth before it's too late. We're not going to destroy everything. The Earth literally won't let us, she'll kill us all before we get anywhere near that irreversible tipping point I'm sure. Just the sense I get.

It doesn't physically overwhelm me when I touch Gaia's energy but it does feel like she's hurt and sometimes madder than she lets on. Given an awful lot of supernatural things result in me being in uncontrollable tears whether I like it or not, whether I'm sad or not, it's a relief I'm not continually sensing that just from being on the Earth. I can only feel more of an extent to the pain if I actually shut up and meditate on it and really try connect. Then it's like waves of it and I have to shut it down and try stay grounded or I'd end up crying all night and be useless to the world. Small mercies.

Constance
4th August 2019, 09:58
The part that really gets to me is that Mother Earth is just us in another form.

Maybe it is now time to revisit how we are going to take back our sovereignty.

It is the "how" I am now interested in. "How" exactly are we going to pull this off?


A colony of ants can overpower a snake. :bowing:

Gracy
4th August 2019, 21:08
The part that really gets to me is that Mother Earth is just us in another form.

Maybe it is now time to revisit how we are going to take back our sovereignty.

It is the "how" I am now interested in. "How" exactly are we going to pull this off?


A colony of ants can overpower a snake. :bowing:

Im a with ya Constance, and i do agree that we are evry bit part of mother earth as a child is to their mother.

One of the sticking points i always wind up bumping up against is, as in the old "who exactly is 'they' that rules over us, and why", who exactly is "we" that wishes to break free, why, and by what means?

For instance as we see in the El Paso shooter manifesto, or whatever its called, he considers himself part of "we", and he ain't the we i want to be part of. There are lots of versions of "we" i dont associate myself with. Q considers theirselves "we", many cults considers themselves "we", the left considers themselves we the right considers themselves we, all sects of all religions consider themselves we.

So who exactly is the "we" thats going to gather together, get past all the cointelpro, and make this grand planet wide transformation? I dont see any groups of enlightened people making headway, but, i do see individuals making head way. Isn't that how its always been? The State's in charge but the individual can break themselves free like fromPlatos Cave.

Constance
4th August 2019, 23:49
The part that really gets to me is that Mother Earth is just us in another form.

Maybe it is now time to revisit how we are going to take back our sovereignty.

It is the "how" I am now interested in. "How" exactly are we going to pull this off?


A colony of ants can overpower a snake. :bowing:

Im a with ya Constance, and i do agree that we are evry bit part of mother earth as a child is to their mother.

One of the sticking points i always wind up bumping up against is, as in the old "who exactly is 'they' that rules over us, and why", who exactly is "we" that wishes to break free, why, and by what means?

For instance as we see in the El Paso shooter manifesto, or whatever its called, he considers himself part of "we", and he ain't the we i want to be part of. There are lots of versions of "we" i dont associate myself with. Q considers theirselves "we", many cults considers themselves "we", the left considers themselves we the right considers themselves we, all sects of all religions consider themselves we.

So who exactly is the "we" thats going to gather together, get past all the cointelpro, and make this grand planet wide transformation? I dont see any groups of enlightened people making headway, but, i do see individuals making head way. Isn't that how its always been? The State's in charge but the individual can break themselves free like fromPlatos Cave.

These are magnificent questions Gracy May :star: They really are. They really get to the heart of the matter. :heart:

My questions were really rhetorical and my thoughts more for contemplation (I don't want to derail this thread) but I can see now that your questions -


So who exactly is the "we" thats going to gather together, get past all the cointelpro, and make this grand planet wide transformation?


"who exactly is 'they' that rules over us, and why", who exactly is "we" that wishes to break free, why, and by what means?

the questions that you asked, are so big, so all-encompassing and are so worthy of a very huge round table discussion - to do your questions true justice might really really really need a new thread! (or many!!)

There are so many threads on Avalon in the past that have attempted to answer all of the questions you have posed here but what I would love to hear is what members currently think.

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enfoldedblue
5th August 2019, 00:17
Until we are able to accept that we contain EVERYTHING..from the darkest to the lightest we perpetrate the concept of division...and require darkness to manifest in our external reality to show us that which we don't want to contain within.

Here is an except from an article I wrote on this....

Casting Out The Dark
As young developing humans most of us learn to reject ‘undesirable’ aspects, to repress them in order to feel comfortable with our selves, and to ensure acceptance in our social group. We select what we are, and what we are not. In order to elucidate I will use the most basic example: I am light, I am not dark. However, if we are truly a reflection of the whole, then we should contain everything, even darkness. In rejecting and ‘disowning’ our dark parts we cast them out. But where do they go? I suspect this energy, cast out of our inner world, manifests in our external reality.

Rejected as part of the whole, thrown away from love, these elements seek to be re-integrated. They show up everywhere in our environment waiting for recognition. We perceive them as threats, and try to fight or ignore them. This doesn’t work; it only exacerbates the problem and reinforces the dualistic state caused by the self-imposed separation. If we recognize that external reality is a reflection of our inner state, it becomes clear that it is important that we take responsibility for our energy. In order stop adding to the problem we need to cease focusing so much on the outside and do some inner housekeeping. By healing our inner world, through acknowledgement of all that we truly are, we take responsibility for our energy and cease contributing to the darkness of our outer collective reality.

In order to illustrate my point I will use an analogy of a gardener. Imagine each of us is a gardener who has been gifted with the responsibility of managing every seed in existence. As this gardener we become aware that there are some seeds that develop into beautiful food and flowers. We value these seeds and carefully plant and nurture them. However, we also believe that some seeds grow into nasty weeds. Fearing the potential of these seeds we don’t want to be associated with them so, like most other gardeners in our world, we toss them away into the wind. ‘This is not me I want nothing to do with these seeds.’ These unclaimed, unmanaged seeds end up everywhere and thrive and threaten to dominate our environment. No one is willing to take responsibility for these plants. ‘No, I would never plant such a seed; this plant has nothing to do with me. It must just be the nature of reality.’

If instead we accepted responsibility for ‘owning’ the whole gamut of seeds, we could cease contributing to the communal problem. As a wise gardener we would not toss the potentially dangerous seeds away, we would do the opposite, aware of their power, we would keep them close by, where they could be kept in check and managed responsibly.

Continuing on with the gardening analogy, when we stop fearing the seeds that we allowed to get out of control through neglect and mismanagement, we might discover that judging them as weeds may have been rash decision triggered by fear and misunderstanding. If instead of pushing away the dark seeds, we chose to look at them more closely, we might discover that they have valuable qualities and attributes that we were previously unaware of. When tended and cultivated consciously, with understanding and awareness, we might find that their growth can actually have benefits for the whole. https://wakeup-world.com/2015/05/30/taking-responsibility-for-our-energy/

And to bring this back on topic.... :)

I feel that we humans have a tendency to fall into the ego trap of giving ourselves far too much importance. I personally don't believe that we are these superior creatures that have the ability to damage mother Earth. Rather I believe that we are always a part of nature (whether we think so or not) and are playing a role in Gaia's evolutionary journey.

RogeRio
9th August 2019, 22:53
let me enter the discussion, trying to use some abstract mind unconscious connections



The part that really gets to me is that Mother Earth is just us in another form.


Yes --- we can see this way, but may are mind polarization.
YesYes- Us are just Mother Earth, in another (micro) form.



So who exactly is the "we" thats going to gather together, get past all the cointelpro, and make this grand planet wide transformation?


Don't feeding cointelpro .. make the parasites have to work for their food that they virtually disappear from the face of the Earth .. everyone will be able to evolve more better this way

if you are a micro-Earth being, Would you like to live full of hungry parasites around you? sucking your energies?




I dont see any groups of enlightened people making headway, but, i do see individuals making head way. Isn't that how its always been? The State's in charge but the individual can break themselves free like fromPlatos Cave.


are you sure that already looked for all, all, and everything all ?
are you sure that individuals making head way are alone ones ?
who sustains The State's in charge ?

If individual cannot break free themselves First, how "Will" a collective of them break free Later ?

please, I am asking rhetorical questions whose answers each one must keep to himself... Ok ?
this is an exercise of awareness, it's not an inquiry

Gracy
9th August 2019, 23:48
So who exactly is the "we" thats going to gather together, get past all the cointelpro, and make this grand planet wide transformation?


Don't feed them .. make the parasites have to work for their food that they disappear from the face of the Earth

if you are a micro-Earth, Would you like to live full of parasites around you?

That depends, is a parasite good or bad? The parasites in my stomach, and my saliva, are necessary parasites, so how best to judge parasites?


If individual cannot break free themselves First, how "Will" a collective of them break free Later ?

please, I am asking rhetorical questions whose answers each one must keep to himself... Ok ?
this is an exercise of awareness, it's not an inquiry

I like your questions! :)

RogeRio
10th August 2019, 00:25
That depends, is a parasite good or bad? The parasites in my stomach, and my saliva, are necessary parasites, so how best to judge parasites?


good catch, but does not apply

- good parasites does not exists on subtil (abstract) planes .. all are mostly negatives
- good or bad are not abstract concepts, but concrete linear statements meaning relativity

- micro-organisms in your stomach are partners, but you cannot consent them to eat your stomach.
- coletivity of partners are legitim synergistic symbionts that evolve together in different phases.

Thank You, you're welcome

understand that, to open an subconscious gateway to unconscious mind, cannot breaking of objective reasoning, neither concrete nor abstract, and there can not be significant obstacles in the way

There is a simple objective straightforward (unique) answer to this whole paradigm, but I prefer to show it later, if it needed

it's three words with ten letters in total (in it most simple english form, I believe)

( Gracy-May, I revised the text to be more clear, not changed the meaning ..ok?)

--edit2--
oh.oh. I dont show the Ace on my hand above, when said "It doesn't Apply"
I told "parasites around", not others diseases, probably implanted "from around"
Dialectic about what doesn't apply, nor does apply too, is nothing going to nowhere

try the whole paradigm first , that Gaia wants us to be aware to make our choice

-- is enough three words, ten letters (4+4+2)

Gracy
10th August 2019, 02:35
That depends, is a parasite good or bad? The parasites in my stomach, and my saliva, are necessary parasites, so how best to judge parasites?


good catch, but does not apply

- good parasites does not exists on subtil (abstract) planes .. all are mostly negatives
- good or bad are not abstract concepts, but concrete linear statements meaning relativity

- micro-organisms in your stomach are partners, but you cannot consent them to eat your stomach.
- coletivity of partners are legitim synergistic symbionts that evolve together in different phases.

Thank You, you're welcome



Sometimes those micro organisms, for what ever reason rogparan, mutate into cancer cells thus badly injuring or even killing their host. Why does that happen? Those cells weren't "good" or "bad", they just were, right?

Sometimes somethin happens to the "bodily system", whether cell, human, planet or galaxy, like the eye sight begins to fail, the child is born with no arms, where do we fit into that mix of as below so above, or the other way round?

Haujean Contactee
8th October 2019, 06:07
I enjoyed reading that. I've told people in the past that you shouldn't attempt to send healing energy to the earth until you've actually felt the collective pain of the planet. Every so often I allow myself to feel the pain of the planet to remind me of what's important in my life which is to actively work to achieve a better world.

Lyran.Sun
9th October 2019, 10:11
Let me breakdown the levels of agendas of the cabal in brief. I'll post here as it all takes place on earth so its not off topic. I would gladly do it on this thread as it has a high following & it belongs to the chief. *Salutes*. I'm a new member so my threads aren't reaching out to many. I've also caused alil controversy on another thread which im laughing about. I'm copy & pasting notes I made recently, please ignore any grammar & spelling errors.

The first level would be the indirect type actions, subliminal conditioning, sickness & body degrading causing poisons, divide & conquer agenda.. such as.. GMO, big pharma, fluoride, radiation, chemtrails, smart dust, dark grids such as archontic grid & Saturn moon matrix, negative AI mind control, HAARP electromagnetic mind control, indoctrination in education systems & religions, turning weak people into conflict minded degenerates, TV mind control, surveillance, social conflicts, religious conflicts, political conflicts, draining energy of people with low vibration..

The next level would be the direct attacks, various victimisation.. such as.. Gangstalking / electronic harassment, kids & people used for sex rings, smearing campaign, police brutality, corrupted law orders, wrongful imprisonment, abductions, MK ultra, milabs, organized attacks by black ops military or dark coverns, curses set out by cabal dark witches & sorcerers, gang activities, incoming transhumanism..

Next level would be the intense attacks, murders & genocide.. such as.. kidnapped kids & people used for cannibalism & feeding to various beings, victims used for blood sacrifice, torture, rape, assassination, cartel attacks, terrorist attacks, false flag attacks, wars, harsh virus outbreak, geo engineered disasters, abducted people used for science experiment such as creating gene spliced hybrids..


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I would divide humanity into 4 groups.. degenerates, dumbed down humans, awakened people & the illuminati.

Degenerates are people who are void of reasoning & rationality. I'll just point out the worst which are murderers & criminals who cause grievous injuries to other beings, they are the lowest scums lowlife losers.

Dumbed down people the masses are the ones walking through a minefield filled with venomous creatures, with their ignorance to not comprehend how dangerous this life is.

Awakened people would be like getting into an obstacle course, the more knowledge the more skill they have the better they could survive.. But of course there are some death traps in this course.

Illuminati can shove it.


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Max Spiers mentioned that the cabal have terraformation technologies which could fix alot of earth damaged issues. Never got into details I don't know the full extends of that tech. We will go through an intense period & than there will be a calm period after that. This has also been prophecized in the great pyramid stone calendar decoded. Humanity will have a major split. Well more people would die from the catastrophes as it goes, how much the amount I don't know. They do need alot of us to be alive we are their energy source. Dont buy into fear porn propagandas. Its not wrong to worry but its much better to be positive & attract positive vibes.

I really hope us awaken people would not be transhumanist & I hope more would get into organic DNA activation that would make us much stronger to counter various attacks & enhancement of cognitive abilities. Develop our chakra system & increase our spiritual powers. Use the various forms of shielding. Perform white magick rituals. Aid mother earth. Service others help out as much as we can. Share information with each other unite & be part of the righteous lightworkers collective consciousness. Connect to our higher selves for aid. Don't bother about saviors we are our own freakin saviors. We are all consciousness experiencing individuality.

They may or may not bring us to virtual reality. It will be setup for us such a way as we would be getting into the VR booths. The booths would drain our energy like the Matrix movie. But of course this information would be kept classified from public. People would spend a great deal of time in the VR booths.

We have to keep in mind that we will be reincarnating into this world until the problem here could be resolved. & than maybe starseeds would return to their home planets or dimensions. Some humans will enter ascension. I stressed this out on my first thread that we need to program restoration of memories for future lifes here. High level illuminati members have past lifes memory restoration. Certain starseeds could download memories.

Many illuminati members want to live as long as they can using life extension tech & unethical techniques along with anti aging technology. They are afraid of death because then they would have to face karmic retribution & a very dark reincarnation for them.

We actually already succeeded. When starseeds incarnated into mother earth Gaia. The high vibrations have tuned in with mother earth & countered the dark energies. The positive energies have connected to the universe. Gaia is the heart of the universe & very important to many beings. Numerous beings have lived here. We should connect to our hearts & connect to mother earth Gaia.

Hitchy
16th December 2020, 19:15
Hi Bill, a most excellent article. Thank you. I am looking for a meditation I can do to help this

"If we dedicate 10 minutes a day to holding these people in our collective light, it can make a huge shift for them and us. After the 10 minutes, let us focus on the compassion and love of the millions of lightworkers and lightwarriors around the planet, our brethren, so that our collective power increases -- making each one of us more able to accomplish our collective work."

This seems like a start!
https://youtu.be/BK41PdEvI5Y

Lunesoleil
16th December 2020, 22:36
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