View Full Version : Focusing : The Transformational Lens
Bill Ryan
20th June 2011, 23:00
Or:
So you want to transform the world?
Well… here’s one way you can do it.
Dear Friends: this may be the one of the most important posts you have ever encountered. Read carefully – maybe several times.
The best place to start is with these words from Inelia’s first video interview (http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/inelia_benz_3-10-11_en.html) with myself.
Bill: You may have cured her or healed her or stopped her from killing herself or resolved a problem or something. But what is that process? How does it work? How can you explain this? How can you explain what’s happening?
Inelia: The best way to describe it would be that my focus goes to her. And I am there 110 percent in every dimension, in every time-space for that moment. That’s how I can... But I don’t do anything, I don’t have any intention. I don’t have any attachment to outcome. I don’t have any curiosity. Nothing. It’s just complete focus. And what appears to happen is, then there’s something else – whatever it is, the Divine force, energy, chi, whatever – comes through and directly into her to resolve and do whatever, that I have no idea what it is. And then it’s done.
Like many others, I marveled at Inelia’s description of the work that she has done since she was a small child: as a transformational instrument of something far larger and greater than her human persona. She would regularly receive ‘directions’ from a clearly benevolent higher source about where to place what she calls her ‘focus’. And then some kind of magic would occur.
And, as she describes, that’s all she did – thousands of times over the years on ‘targets’ great and small. The effect was always transformational. And Inelia herself is at pains to stress that she herself did nothing. It was something far greater than anything merely human - operating through her like a lens.
In many private conversations, I quizzed her about this process. What did she do? What did the experience feel like? How did she select her targets – or receive the information about where to direct her attention? Who or what was behind all this? What on Earth (or maybe not on Earth at all!) was going on?
Many times in Inelia’s interview, she emphasized that her extraordinary gifts were the birthright of all humans. From her interview again:
Inelia: Anybody who reaches a certain level of awareness can do this stuff. It’s part of the human toolkit. It’s not something that I brought in from outside. This is all wired into every human being. And this is part of the human tool kits that are being oppressed, suppressed and invalidated in everybody. And people are taught that they don’t exist, taught that they’re not able to do these things.
These words were encouraging to hear. But like thousands of other viewers of the video, I thought: Well, that’s for someone else to be able to do. Not me.
How wrong I was. Let me share what happened a couple of days ago.
Inelia and I had just published our first major joint article: The Cry of Gaia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23176-The-Cry-of-Gaia). If you’ve not read this, it’s recommended. It describes the Crie de Coeur of Gaia herself, the archetypal Goddess-Guardian of the Earth and all living things who call the Earth their home. As I explain in the article, I had a profound experience that showed me directly that this magnificent entity was very real, and not just a handy ecological metaphor.
Although immensely strong and certain to way outlive all transient human activity, Gaia is under pressure: the human race is out of all balance, collectively grossly unaware and irresponsible even if only because of our unthinking passive agreement about what is going on around us. And a minority of humans – if humans they are – are bent on destruction of all that is beautiful and good. As Inelia says:
Inelia: There was a big call from the planet as an entity, and light beings within the planet, saying “Help! To do this we need help.”
And that call went out, and it wasn’t just a planetary call. It was also from other beings around in the galaxy which will be affected by what happens on the planet, maybe not today, but maybe in a million years, and that call was HUGE. A huge call from sentient consciousness, for some sort of intervention on the planet to allow it – in this timeline – to make the shift that it’s supposed to make and which is trying to be stopped by the negativity.
So, it was a huge call. And that’s why beings like myself can come into time-space and do this – because it’s a response to that call.
I’d inserted some images to illustrate the article. One poignant image was this one – a real photograph, despite its surreal quality – taken in Nigeria by National Geographic photojournalist Ed Kashi, whom I interviewed last year:
http://projectavalon.net/Niger_2.jpg
Of all the images I have ever seen, this one surely encapsulates the problem of the ruin of the planet: a despairing, dignified human - still somehow, almost hopelessly, trying to make things work against an apocalyptic backdrop, a wasteland of polluted destruction.
I gazed at this awful scene, wondering just what it would take to fix this. It’s a solvable problem: there do exist people who have the power and the resources to fix these issues with a stroke of their pen, with the click of their fingers.
And suddenly, my focus – this is the only way I can put it – swung round like a compass needle. It settled – like a magnet – on an individual who I could (but will not) describe. I could see him in my mind’s eye. I saw his face, and what he was wearing. A powerful person, but a human person, indeed with the resources to heal these atrocities. I gazed at him… suddenly totally aware what was happening.
In the background ran the human thought in my mind: “This is what Inelia was describing. I’m experiencing this now myself. My God, this is flowing through me too.”
And all I was doing was gazing at the wall of my room. But I was looking at him intently. There was no judgment, no intention, no attachment. Again, as Inelia describes:
Inelia: And I sat next to him. And I just looked. I was just looking at him and he was looking at me. And I had no agenda. I didn’t know what was going to happen or anything. I was just sitting with him.
I became aware of a gradually increasing energy flowing through me from behind and above me, through me, towards my ‘target’. And meanwhile, I was doing nothing at all. I was just pointing my attention at him – or, to exact, I was allowing my attention to be directed at this person.
I was clear, as it was occurring, that my human attention was functioning as a vehicle for something that was entirely different from anything I’d ever experienced before. A part of me was marveling: while another part of me was quietly dispassionate, calm, still, focused, adding nothing at all to what was happening.
I held my focus for ten minutes (I’d noted the time when it started). It was the easiest thing in the world. There was nothing to do. And that sentence is the key.
I was being steered, guided, was allowing myself to be an instrument for some kind of process far greater than myself. It was a kind of surrender, a symbiosis with a greater power. The only thing was what not to do: not to get in the way.
It was crystal clear that what was necessary for this to work was the removal of all ‘normal’ human additives – intention, attachment, judgment, ego, even any sense that what has happening was in some way important. The mystics, meditators and students of esoteric practices reading this may understand immediately. For the rest of you, my purpose in writing this article is to assist you in reaching the point where you too can experience this.
It was a profound simplicity. We complex humans often do not allow ourselves to be sufficiently simple to do what is needed all around us.
And that is my story. I do not know the man’s name. But I know his position and his potential influence. I will have no immediate way of knowing whether this had a real-world effect. But I feel certain that it did.
After those initial ten minutes, I checked with Inelia – realizing that I could place the everyday human component of my attention on to other activities while the process ran in the background. I described what I was experiencing, and she confirmed that I was duplicating her experience. I also checked my intuition that I could indeed get on with everyday matters, and did not have to stay up all night gazing at the wall.
Laughing, Inelia confirmed that I could indeed ‘let it run’ – and that the process might last minutes, hours, days, weeks, or months. She told me that I would know when it was complete.
The process continued – and I was not sure whether it was complete or not. It’s like I was waiting for some kind of signal, as when the toaster pops up its toast when it’s exactly ready. Nothing seemed to happen, and I wondered if I’d missed something. I even wondered if my process might differ from Inelia’s in some way.
But when I woke up this morning – nearly 36 hours after it all started – I realized fully that it was complete. I just knew – exactly as Inelia described that I would.
And, soon after, I had two similar experiences following that one. Inelia had explained to me that these could run in parallel with one another with no problem, no overlap, and no stress. That seemed hard to imagine, but about 40 minutes after the start of the initial experience, I locked onto another target of another kind entirely (a human who had died and whom I knew to be suffering greatly). I focused on his spirit, which I could perceive clearly, with detachment and yet with great compassion. That process also was over by the time I woke up this morning.
And finally, I had a ‘small one’ – my third in a day and a half – which Inelia confirmed often happens with her: it was suddenly there this morning, and came and went rapidly: it lasted for maybe two minutes. The effect was subtle, but distinct, and I recognized what was occurring. Inelia said, simply: “Yes, some can be very quick.”
And there we have it. It’s not a complicated story. To the contrary, it’s all so simple. But it seemed important that I share my experience. Here’s the significance:
Inelia, and certainly many others of her kind, have been doing this work, quietly and without fuss, for years. The result is as Inelia describes:
Bill: And... and restoring free will and self determinism to the citizens of the planet – how far on track are we? Can we measure this? Are we doing well?
Inelia: We are doing EXTREMELY well. Way beyond any expectations and also, its wide open right now. It’s wide open. There are no limits to how much can be accomplished.
Bill: So it’s wide open in terms of the degree of positive potential?
Inelia: Yes.
But it’s not over yet. We can’t relax. There are hundreds of people already doing this work; we may never know their names. But we need thousands. Tens of thousands. And more.
This is where you can play your part. For some of you reading this, this is what you came here to do. It might just be that reading this post may be the tipping point to enable you to start your mission.
Remember: Profound Simplicity. Get your human intentions, attachment, judgment, ego, and even curiosity right out of the way. If you have thoughts or emotions, acknowledge them and let them move on. And let the magnetic compass needle of your attention swing freely to locate its target.
You will have no control over what, when, or even why. Surrender to whatever is operating through you and allow yourself to be a clear lens whose only function is to point in a particular direction.
Then let a Power that is far greater than yours, or mine, do all the rest.
Bill Ryan
20 June, 2011
truthseekerdan
20th June 2011, 23:14
Yes Bill, All We Need Is LOVE!
Rocky_Shorz
20th June 2011, 23:19
thanks Bill,
I think of pushing it back into the subconscious once it begins, and you can put it on auto pilot including finding the next...
I see my subconscious as my Spirit, it knows what to do...
Anchor
20th June 2011, 23:21
How it all happens:
Intent (Focussed!)
Attraction (The mechanics of the manifestation process)
Allowance (Dont interfere!)
Balance (will happen!)
Muzz
20th June 2011, 23:34
Thank you Bill, for a nudge in the right direction.
joelmags
20th June 2011, 23:39
Dear Bill,
Have been doing some "healing" work for some time. Letting all sorts of "things" get in the way. Yes, i picked up what Inelia had said in your interview.
Again, thank you for writing this.
I will focus and get out of the way.
Rocky_Shorz
20th June 2011, 23:54
does this face look familiar?
http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/noticias/28558/240x0/michael-woodward.jpg
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It is Saint Miguel of Santiago...
in English...
Saint Michael Woodward of Santiago
http://bill.inelia.com/images/stories/brocken_specter.jpg
hey Bill, he does sound like someone you would get along with...
"Following the bloody coup headed by Augusto Pinochet, among the many in the eye of the repressive forces where priests were living in working class neighborhoods, and participated in organizations and Christian base communities. Miguel was a focus of the repression, which deemed him an "extremist", even though his only model and teacher was the Christ of the poor. Miguel had the intransigent conviction that the misery and vulnerability of the poor, particularly of the people with whom he lived in Valparaiso, was an injustice that clamored to the heavens and was rooted in greed, egoism, and the defense of privileges of the rich. Miguel was a man of singular integrity who struggled to give witness with his life, until delivering that life in union with Christ, for his friends."... Memorial Link (http://www.memoriayjusticia.cl/english/en_rights-woodward.htm)
and yet another mystery...
Lawyer Sergio Concha explains: "Miguel had problems with the new bishop of Valparaiso, Emilio Tagle. In August 1972 the bishop suspended him from the priesthood, with no explanation...
This illicit association unleashed a State terrorism in the country, that employed torture as an important foundation from which to implant mass fear in the population. It is believed that approximately 500,000 persons were tortured during the dictatorship. The numbers of persons subjected to torture in Valparaiso and all the Fifth Region cannot be easily calculated, since every person arrested was, at some point, subjected to torture...
Michelle Marie
21st June 2011, 00:11
Several years ago I was guided to do "aura healings" for lack of better words. (No training, this came strictly through intuitive guidance.) The main component was to "get out of the way." Intuitively guided I set my hands above a person and I got out of the way, just allowing whatever to happen. My hands would move around the person's energy field. I felt energy run through me, I felt strong sensations in my heart and through my hands, but I had no intention. I didn't really focus, per se, I was focused through. I was just an observer/instrument. I've only done these for friends or when I felt compelled to and the stranger or person I met seemed open to it. I've never advertised or charged. I just wanted to mention this since it seems so similar to what you are talking about.
I'm sure that you are aware of Matrix Energetics. That is also a consciousness healing and transformation movement that involves "getting out of the way."
Another healing movement that involves getting out of the way is Hellinger's constellation work. When you "represent" someone, you "get out of the way" and just interpret the energy that flows through.
For me, I've been learning to get out of the way and stay neutral. Especially recently that has been my strong guidance. Non-attachment, surrender. Awareness, inspiration and intuition guides my ship of consciousness.
Bill Ryan
21st June 2011, 01:18
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A quick note to everyone! If this attracts your interest, do consider reading my opening post several times. :)
This is the highest expression of transformational intervention that I've encountered. It's more than Love... this is something else entirely. I do not pretend to understand it.
And while I'm at it -- we've just committed to hold a seminar in Sedona, Arizona, on 27-28 August.
To register interest, please write to seminars@bill.inelia.com with the subject SEDONA 2011. Details of the event will be posted in the next few days on http://bill.inelia.com/events.html. (http://bill.inelia.com/events.html)
Material that we'll cover will include everything we know between us that will support you in attaining the ability to become a conduit of the above process.
aranuk
21st June 2011, 01:22
Bill would you like to address the issues you said you would on the Atticus and group of 18 thread you started please, we have been waiting for weeks now? There has been nearly TWO THOUSAND posts here and we are eagerly awaiting your promise of a response of some sort at least. If you did say something in some way to explain certain things we have been debating on this thread, which is nearing nearly TWO THOUSAND posts, I could for one at least listen to what you are saying on this thread with interest. Until you face up to the promise you gave us here, how can I possibly take anything at all seriously? You seem to be hiding behind Inelia in some sort of way, instead of clearing up all the loose ends.
I am saying this with LOVE in my Heart I can assure you! I have always had enormous respect for you Sir and it breaks my heart to post this.
Love to you always and to Inelia
Stan
Moemers
21st June 2011, 01:29
Can this be honed in on by someone else to use as a weapon without our knowing?
aranuk
21st June 2011, 01:32
Can this be honed in on by someone else to use as a weapon without our knowing?
What are you referring to Moemers?
Elucidate please.
Stan
truthseekerdan
21st June 2011, 01:39
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A quick note to everyone! If this attracts your interest, do consider reading my opening post several times. :)
This is the highest expression of transformational intervention that I've encountered. It's more than Love... this is something else entirely. I do not pretend to understand it.
You are very right Bill. :)
Everything "more than Love" is an illusion -- hence it's not required to understand. Without Love nothing will change no matter what one would do... JMHO
Much Love ~ Dan
toothpick
21st June 2011, 01:47
Absolutely facinating.
Stay out of the way, of course.
It makes complete sense.
Thanks Bill.
toothpick
astrid
21st June 2011, 02:16
The Shamans often refer to them selves as a " hollow bone".
Which means they are just the vessel and being worked through by many spirit helpers.
The mind, is actually designed to be a servant to the heart,
boy do we have that wrong, and where has it got us??
The BIG SECRET is that life lived with divine spirit to guide you,
is so incredible simple and effortless.
It's so simple and so easy that most people will miss it .
It's also such a relief , when u think about it, we can stop trying to run the place,
and put our higher selves, divine spirit, back in charge.
Our higher aspects ALWAYS know which path is the best path.
Blessings,
Astrid
Solphilos
21st June 2011, 02:26
What you describe here may be the most meaningful post I've encountered on this forum. It describes truth on a deep level that many will overlook if read only once.
This is close to the core of the matter that the esoteric schools have been teaching for countless ages; To discover ones true Will, which is not to be equated to material or even spiritual goals or desires.
This Will guides us into accomplishing our Work, and we only get in it's way when we fall for the illusions of the flesh. Our beliefs (mental programming) lead us to expectations, and by expecting we impose limits on a greater potential, narrowing the amount of possibilities. We further divide an already fragmented situation.....this is done on a daily basis.
The mind is the slayer of the real
All pain and suffering stems from division, and the divided can be only be bonded with love.
truthseekerdan
21st June 2011, 02:41
What you describe here may be the most meaningful post I've encountered on this forum. It describes truth on a deep level that many will overlook if read only once.
This is close to the core of the matter that the esoteric schools have been teaching for countless ages; To discover ones true Will, which is not to be equated to material or even spiritual goals or desires.
This Will guides us into accomplishing our Work, and we only get in it's way when we fall for the illusions of the flesh. Our beliefs (mental programming) lead us to expectations, and by expecting we impose limits on a greater potential, narrowing the amount of possibilities. We further divide an already fragmented situation.....this is done on a daily basis.
The mind is the slayer of the real
All pain and suffering stems from division, and the divided can be only be bonded with love.
Fully agree with what you wrote Solphilos. Love in our life is not created as a result of certain conditions. Certain conditions are created as a result of our love. If we did not have this understanding before, we probably only imagined certain things must occur in order for us to live a more meaningful life.
Namaste ~ Dan
lightwalker
21st June 2011, 02:44
My path of least resistance happens when I surrender.....and the way I have learned to do that is to verbally or silently hand it over to my higher self.
I also can get a little ego in the way when I tell my higher self this: "You set this whole thing up...so it is all yours to handle." But I know that is ok also.
I have experienced amazing stuff when I step aside and let go.
I still envision Mother Earth in bliss and peace. I still envision humanity in harmony, peace and bliss....and I hand it over because that is where the power lies.
lightwalker
Carmody
21st June 2011, 02:49
Bill would you like to address the issues you said you would on the Atticus and group of 18 thread you started please, we have been waiting for weeks now? There has been nearly TWO THOUSAND posts here and we are eagerly awaiting your promise of a response of some sort at least. If you did say something in some way to explain certain things we have been debating on this thread, which is nearing nearly TWO THOUSAND posts, I could for one at least listen to what you are saying on this thread with interest. Until you face up to the promise you gave us here, how can I possibly take anything at all seriously? You seem to be hiding behind Inelia in some sort of way, instead of clearing up all the loose ends.
I am saying this with LOVE in my Heart I can assure you! I have always had enormous respect for you Sir and it breaks my heart to post this.
Love to you always and to Inelia
Stan
One of the first things I learned while in the sleepless state, or in the connected state.... was that not so much of this stuff you are attached to here.. in this post of yours..matters much.
Seriously. :)
It seems like an alien thing to say, but I'm being very serious. :)
Carmody
21st June 2011, 02:52
Welcome to my world!
:p
It does feel amazing to be able to do some good. So good you don't want to ...and have no reason - to stop.
I stopped and 'came back' as I needed to be here, in 'da poop' for a bit longer...it seems.
Carmen
21st June 2011, 02:54
Yes, yes, yes, this is wonderful Bill, Inelia. The power of focus. This is what all the great teachers teach, how to focus. They point the finger to what we all can do and must do. The power of the divine flows through and is expressed through every person when they learn the art of focus. Love it!!!
aranuk
21st June 2011, 02:57
It has now been pointed out to me that all the information is out there for everyone to read. I cannot help but agree and I retract my inquisitive post to Bill and apologize to Bill sincerely! I was NEVER at all demanding any sort of apology from Bill only an explanation. Bill has sent me a post to which I am certain he has acknowledged everyone's concern in the matter. Let's get down to the BUSINESS which we all at Avalon know we must do! Expose the ****IN' PTB for what they are!
Peace and Love Always
Stan
Thank God I feel so much better now.
Heartsong
21st June 2011, 03:21
From Original Post:
In the background ran the human thought in my mind: “This is what Inelia was describing. I’m experiencing this now myself. My God, this is flowing through me too.”
(snip)
From original post:
"I was being steered, guided, was allowing myself to be an instrument for some kind of process far greater than myself. It was a kind of surrender, a symbiosis with a greater power. The only thing was what not to do: not to get in the way."
Bill, is it possible that the less enlightened or those of the "dark side" could also do this but have negative results? Is there any danger to the practice of complete surrender to an unknown force?
ghostrider
21st June 2011, 03:26
Yes Bill, All We Need Is LOVE!
a miracle is looking for a vessle always.
Davidallany
21st June 2011, 03:41
We are getting closer now, thank you for good news Bill.
eaglespirit
21st June 2011, 03:50
Wonderfuul...Beautiful...the shift has "engaged" now beyond 3d comprehension...and we do NOT have to comprehend it to do the work laid out by Inelia and Bill : )
I am prompted to add that if an old friend or childhood or schooldays people You knew very well or just vaguely... pop into your mind for no apparent reason and the thought of them stays with you simply do what has been shared here...because that is exactly why they popped into your mind and stayed there...
this IS changing the world...one person at a time by MANY of Us now : )
...and don't even think about whether it was someone you liked or disliked for any reason ...they are there in your mind for you to simply be a conduit of this energy...BE a Conduit of this Energy!
Love, Love, Love to You All!!!
cloud9
21st June 2011, 04:46
This is absolutely amazing! I'm going to do this and see how it goes. I do have a few questions: Can this method or technique (I don't know how to call it) be used for healing? Can this be used on oneself for healing, depression or other issues?
Somehow I know the answer is yes but I'd like to have confirmation.
This is the stuff I want to see and learn, I don't care what TPTB are doing, I want to learn what I can do, something achievable and effective, something that any human being can do.
Thank you to both of you, please remember that there are many here that want to act somehow to help this planet.
Hervé
21st June 2011, 06:10
Thank you Bill and Inelia!
I posted the followings on the Gaia thread and think it belongs here as well:
Finally got what was wrong with "my" picture!
Misconstrued from a distorted history and prehistory as found in books as well as from misdirecting religions... understanding why the "Neanderthals' never left any "traces of civilization" and why they are back (see Graham Hancock last book).
Whether looking outside or inside for an answer, it still was a misplaced point of view... from the reality of being completely and entirely encompassed by a bigger being where one has to feel one's way.
A matrix of a different essence than the one we are being sold. More like that vast ocean a fish swims in...
What a sigh of relief!
DoubleHelix
21st June 2011, 06:20
And suddenly, my focus – this is the only way I can put it – swung round like a compass needle. It settled – like a magnet – on an individual who I could (but will not) describe. I could see him in my mind’s eye. I saw his face, and what he was wearing. A powerful person, but a human person, indeed with the resources to heal these atrocities. I gazed at him… suddenly totally aware what was happening.
Hey Bill, Firstly thanks for the message.
I commend you on the change of gears you've taken to the role of one that's more engaging and hands-on. Although I will say I'll miss the Bill of old who conducted brilliant interviews.
A well known quote springs into mind upon finishing reading your post - "Be the change you want to see in this world."
What I would like to ask you, before the thread becomes glossed over with praises of love and light, is - Do you plan to meat this individual you speak of, interact and entice him (in the name of common good) to inject funds/resources into poverty stricken areas such as Nigeria? I would like to know if you have thought that far ahead and what your plans are in relation to the experience in question?
nomadguy
21st June 2011, 06:24
I am very glad to read this, Truly interesting and encouraging. I also think we need thousands+ to do this.
attachments and feelings like ego will most certainly be a hurdle and can "get in the way" of this process you speak of.
Here are some helpful tips ~ in clearing your mind so that you too, can do this.
So I share a few vids that have helped me see that, the stopping of thoughts like ego, is a real possibility.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eE41qpyygE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPqZ9dFwe0A (1-5)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBm_2Jf9rbw (1-3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i82D0OOGofw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL (1-8)
Maybe these will help someone, however I find the last one by Krishnamurti of great importance.
And my reasoning is this,
if we cannot look at ourselves plainly. Or as simply as possible it can become increasingly difficult to quiet one feeling or mode of thought over another. And I feel the idea here is to level them. So that your thoughts as the brain continues on ~become equal. And then the real you or big being, ~that is not created by the brain, comes into focus or comes through you.
I am one person whom thinks that if you cannot conceive something, then it will not come into your reality. So I feel it helps to conceive the idea of stopping the chatter o the mind. Then try it.
In my opinion,, this is the most intriguing post so far...
Cheers
C...
Karma Ngedom
21st June 2011, 07:09
Hello my friends! Things have been a little crazy for me in just a month. I came into PA because I saw Inelia´s video, my heart and brain directed me to listen to the marrow.
Then hooked into the thousands posts of Charles (never finished reading... but I still resonated more with Inelia than Charles)
Then my esceptic eye kicked in with all the scientology chat about the Inelia´s and Bill past, and dedicated myself to read and investigate. Many hours in this research due to a surgery that has permitted me to do so. Still some pieces missing for me.
But today I was compelled to read this thread and the contents are so familiar: the focusing, the free clear, pure mind doing the natural thing...
Why it seems to be so complex or not-understandable for so many? being the most profoundly natural, fresh thing to palpitate with?
(Just thinking in a loud keyboard)
Karma Ngedom
21st June 2011, 07:26
On second thought, I do have a question for Inelia ( or 3):
I know you recognize yourself as "a natural".. but do you find the Buddhist method of training the mind a good one to learn to focus and open?
Also, you said you pulled out of a Buddhist group because it was a cult. Can you tell us which group? to be aware of it.
Why did you choose to integrate to scientology in that time, being who you are?
Thank you in advance for your precious time which I honour...
Jayke
21st June 2011, 07:29
A couple qoutes spring to mind:
"wherever there is attachment, association with it brings endless misery" - Gampopa
"when I hear I see, when I see I hear" - Zen Koan
It's interesting that the word human comes from the Hebrew word 'Hu' meaning 'God' and the Latin word 'Man' meaning 'hand' (e.g. manicure)
As humans we literally are the hands of God, we receive instructions from the greater mind and we build, create and forge in his honour...God is the composer, we are the symphony.
I've been studying numerology recently and couldn't help notice the timing Bill started this thread as it synchronistically ties into the theme he shares quite sublimely:
00:00 (4 zero's)
0 = completion in rest
4 = represents the elements
completion of the elements represents the alchemical process, turning lead into gold, matter into life, life into spirit, spirit into pure awareness merging back into the infinite...the refining of consciousness as it evolves and fulfils it's various potentialities as it returns into completion.
Hervé
21st June 2011, 08:07
Welcome to my world!
:p
It does feel amazing to be able to do some good. So good you don't want to ...and have no reason - to stop.
I stopped and 'came back' as I needed to be here, in 'da poop' for a bit longer...it seems.
Funny, I always thought that "da poop" was the matter one had to work on, you know, the very matter "closer to one than one's hands and feet."
But I probably am mistaken and got lost in the meandering labyrinth of the old grimoires...
pilotsimone
21st June 2011, 08:26
Yes, definitely the most important thread on Avalon so far! I'm so thankful PA has moved up in vibration so quickly.
Wow, if feels good to know for certain...that there is absolutely no stopping us now.
Jean-Luc
21st June 2011, 08:27
Or:
... But I don’t do anything, I don’t have any intention. I don’t have any attachment to outcome. I don’t have any curiosity. Nothing. It’s just complete focus. And what appears to happen is, then there’s something else – whatever it is, the Divine force, energy, chi, whatever – comes through and directly into her to resolve and do whatever, that I have no idea what it is. And then it’s done.
This to me is partly reminescent of what happens with healing through Reiki, which I have been taught a little bit.
Amazing... and yet healing (can) occur. You (as the healer) don't know why. You don't do much. You simply are very present...
At least, this has been reported to me by a girlfriend of mine who does practice with an immense sense of ease and... absence of any self interest.
Decibellistics
21st June 2011, 08:55
Holy ****.
I've had the exact same compass needle thing happen to me. Like to the T. wow.............. In fact all of the things. Genuinely, I can say that most of all my hallucinogenic endeavors have directly been associated with the exact same things you speak of. The Compass needle, complete focus without intentions, attachment, ego, or expectation etc., the basic concept of focusing your will and spirit in a way so that you may have the giant white light tube shoot out from the top of your head and be graced by divine presence. There is a certain amount of protective measure you have to take though in those situations with the plants. Note to self.......I don't practice with the plants anymore though due to self similarity in the teachings......being told the same things.
The drawback to the plants is that the effects of them cause you to come back here expecting the same intensity to occur in day to day life when it comes to focusing your attention. Not the case for the most part, which in turn leads one down the path of expectation, and doubt, and just a general sense and feeling that there is a lacking aspect to your focus if some boom zing holy god almighty experience doesn't occur when you are focusing. That has lead me to problems I suppose until just now.........
Now all to do is do the exact same thing you would do, minus the bull****.
In my personal fiascos it has also been the concept of allowing external factors and stress get in the way of the beautiful aspects of remembering the things I know, have taught myself, and continue to be taught by people.
Thanks. NOW GET OUT THERE AND BE SOMEBODY hahahaha Pardon the expectations/ego joke.
P.S.
Now I wonder if that was me the "small" fry did you see a pasty white guy with blond hair and blue eyes.....synchronicity way too much. A conversation with my Mom spurred the intial realization encountered today, then as a dork, with all the jazz going on around here, I was like, I wonder if Inelia could help, then my best friend pointed at a possible timeline and now you post this.............Tripping me out way to hard right now! HAHAHA
Eric J (Viking)
21st June 2011, 09:46
Excellent!...as you have stated before...
"If you are to be the true leaders of the planet, you can be the captains of Spaceship Earth with a responsibility for the entire Human Family.
There can be a massive clean-up operation. You know that the technology exists. Between us all, this can be done.
Clean water, clean air, clean oceans, free energy, abundant wildlife, health and education for every human being.
Planet Earth could be a paradise planet — a model for this sector of the galaxy.
The Human Race is a massive, long-term experiment."
Thanks Bill.
And thank you Inelia.
viking
learninglight
21st June 2011, 10:39
Qoute from Bills 1st post.....Bill: You may have cured her or healed her or stopped her from killing herself or resolved a problem or something. But what is that process? How does it work? How can you explain this? How can you explain what’s happening?
Inelia: The best way to describe it would be that my focus goes to her. And I am there 110 percent in every dimension, in every time-space for that moment. That’s how I can... But I don’t do anything, I don’t have any intention. I don’t have any attachment to outcome. I don’t have any curiosity. Nothing. It’s just complete focus. And what appears to happen is, then there’s something else – whatever it is, the Divine force, energy, chi, whatever – comes through and directly into her to resolve and do whatever, that I have no idea what it is. And then it’s done.
What i dont understand is that if you (Inelia) can do this why aren't you and others like you with this ability 'focusing' on tptb and turning them..as in making them stop the evil things they are doing to this planet!
Maybe i'm missing something here but my gut tells me otherwise and soooo many times i'm told to go with my gut feeling
much love
Steven
21st June 2011, 11:27
I agree. Focused thought with clear intention is powerful, moreover in collective. That is the way. That is the ONLY thing that will unite all of humanity: An intention of a great blessing for Earth and Mankind.
Im glad to see you are there (in your perspective) Bill. Say thanks to Inelia.
An please people, stop seeing it as lost cause already. It is lost when it is lost in Spirit. It is won when it is won in Spirit.
Namaste, Steven
Eric J (Viking)
21st June 2011, 12:15
Thought this was apt...
....The charade is over as we take off our masks, and Look around at
the Family, we Had played with for so long in duality..We Hug and
Remember the Truth, that we are God and Co-Creators and we are ALL
created from Love, and We are All Equal.
The winds of change are among us as the ushering of an Age begins a
new life , a new story, and mother earth renews her lands.
....We now look ahead above the horizon and see our Beautiful Sun...
shining ever so brightly on our newly painted trees and sands...we
feel the breeze of freedom gently dissolving the ego's last stand, So
that we can begin again With only Love within, as the True Leader, of
this Emerald Planet made of Love .
The Awakened Human Angels have made surrender a choice ALL souls have
been seeking to remember since time began in separation.. .Surrendering
Now we had to for the Ultimate Divine plan, where we Become all One
for the Highest good and best outcome for all, and to usher into the
Earth Un-Conditional Pure Love, the Energy of The Real Name and the
Truth of our Existence...
Our Hearts Now see the vision of the Golden age with it the same Joy
and Freedom..where Heaven and Earth collide...
and WE become one of Joyous Love, For this is The very truth and core,
we are ONE of the same...
Human Angels are reaching for others declaring they have made it to
the land of the Free and are well prepared to Guide all out of misery,
Take our Hand , the Path has been walked and now
shown for all who have eyes to see and ears to hear, The Truth of The
Heart is calling, this is why we all Came, To witness the Return of
Light, and Humanity Free at Last!!!
....WE have Stepped away from the illusion that fear is something Real
and have successfuly dissolved the ego that was keeping All from Being
Free to Feel...
Now to recognize Un-Conditional Love is finally here...Here to uncover
the truth of one's being....not of human thinking for we are ready for
spiritual living and being...
Look for these Angels as they appear, before you "feeding the people,
the freedom of Light, which is Information. .. sharing
with others about Love, Truth, ..one must allow and feel..The Human
Angels are awake and now are walking among these lands fulfilling the
missions and contracts to bring Love back into the Hearts of man.
...and Welcome all into the Paradise, the Garden of Eden, in which was
once only a dream now truly manifested and waiting for all Hearts to
Awaken for it to be seen..Can you Now remember why we all came?
The Human Angels have broken free from the bonds of their thoughts, to
the UnLimiting Potential of Love forever after, to show the way into
Heaven With Bliss, By Being Love in Simple Service to laugh, to play,
and simply just BE.
One must surrender and understand this is real..for when you awaken you
will see us there....Love in Action, The Highest Possibility of
Thought ever manifested.. .Because Love has Been requested, a Sacred
prayer now is Answered.
Life without worry, doubt or fear...for we, The Human Angels are
guided gently by a Divine Plan..we heard the Clarion call, we answered
and are well prepared.... We have been called into action...Look for us
We are here....
The Golden gate is now opening for all who desire to go... follow your
Heart and inner compass...see the treasures, miracles and gifts for
the Divine Human Angels have awakened to shine a light for the path
which once was dark and has now been lightened... .
WE have now taken our places on a new stage of Creation.... We were once
the meek and all said disillusioned. ...and Now WE have spread our
wings and are singing with our beautiful Voices, The Liberty Bell is
ringing, The Truth is Stepping Forward..... to lift the Planet up above
into a land of Unification from within the connection, Of One....The
Moment is Finally Here...
Heaven a land of Freedom, Love, and Living our Truest Passion...
We have bravely traveled out of the depths of illusion.... .and
Couragously stand as Lighthouses, Divine human Angels, We stand as the
Light of Attraction, the Focus of One Love, Brilliant in all its
facets, as the Atoms Gather together, remembering Divinity.... The
Divine Plan is Unfolding with Love being the Only Answer, it is Now
Love In Action. With Your Parents of Creation, Cheering You on.
The Truth Will Set you Free, Royal Angels, Wake up, your Brothers and Sisters! LET THEM KNOW YOU=WE ARE FREE AT LAST~
~~~~~~~~
viking
David Topí
21st June 2011, 12:19
Since a couple of years ago I am doing this, now I understand it, I would say it in different words, and I explained differently but I understand now that it is the same. Thank you Bill and Inelia :-)
Steven
21st June 2011, 12:23
Since a couple of years ago I am doing this, now I understand it, I would say it in different words, and I explained differently but I understand now that it is the same. Thank you Bill and Inelia :-)
It's the same for me and I bet the same for a whole bunch of human. That is the good news. How we understand it or put it in words are as numerous as the number of people who practice it. I have been on Avalon since three years now and I have witness so many people saying the same thing. Hopefully, this thread will give it a new impulse.
Namaste,Steven
The One
21st June 2011, 14:12
After what happened to me last night http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23347-Some-Advice-On-This-My-Friends maybe I am becoming more aware of things
There is definitely something going on maybe a shift or something
Great post
Eyes2theSkies
21st June 2011, 14:47
This is a fascinating interview! At first this sort of thing may be difficult to believe but, as the interview goes along, she is so consistent in the role she play and how she views herself that in the end, you tend to think she is being totally honest. I think there may be many people here right now to do similar work and I am glad for their assistance. It goes to show that some people's prayers or inner cries for help are heard and responded to by the creator or the universe.
I am curious what sort of physical sensations Bill got (if any) while in Inelia's presence? When near power points or people who are "special" I will often feel a twitching sensation in my third eye. Does anyone else ever feel this? I am especially curious if Bill ever has this sensation, particularly in this instance? Thanks for another great interview, Bill! All the best.
Mother
21st June 2011, 15:13
Since a couple of years ago I am doing this, now I understand it, I would say it in different words, and I explained differently but I understand now that it is the same. Thank you Bill and Inelia :-)
It's the same for me and I bet the same for a whole bunch of human. That is the good news. How we understand it or put it in words are as numerous as the number of people who practice it. I have been on Avalon since three years now and I have witness so many people saying the same thing. Hopefully, this thread will give it a new impulse.
Namaste,Steven
Hey there, Steven...
isn´t amazing how united we are? Have you seen "One- the movie"? I watch it whenever i feel the need to be connected into the collective...highly recomend it!
Krylda
21st June 2011, 15:20
Before reading this article I had also been directed to do similar things which just felt right - my concious mind wasn't aware of the import of the process which you detail.
I often sit gazing upon the earth in a place just out so I can see it all properly.
I know this is unusual, but im drawn to observe the ET's in ships around earth; some come and sit there in my vicinity. Sometimes I like sitting in the centre of the sun or the centre of the galaxy knowing something is projecting through me.
So thank you Inelia and Bill for crystallising this process.
michelell
21st June 2011, 15:33
Hi Bill, this is so profound, i am practicing every day to acknowledge the fear and discomfort that comes with seeing and feeling the state of the planet, turning the white light and love on full blast surrounding, inhabiting the fear, and then letting it go into the source, as Inelia said, it seems that everyday i wake up the escalation of the catastrophies heightens and once again, fear starts coming in again. thus the daily meditation is imperative. Now, what are your thoughts about the Nebraska reactor, the theory that they are flooding it up there with the HAARP sites, in conjunction with the already weak Gulf of Mexico sea floor by BP drilling and Illenia comet coming in the 7th of July, to make for a disaster in the mid-west and east coast???
Steven
21st June 2011, 16:04
Hey there, Steven...
isn´t amazing how united we are? Have you seen "One- the movie"? I watch it whenever i feel the need to be connected into the collective...highly recomend it!
I didn't know about it, but will search and watch it soon. Muito obrigado!
Namaste, Steven
David Topí
21st June 2011, 16:26
Since a couple of years ago I am doing this, now I understand it, I would say it in different words, and I explained differently but I understand now that it is the same. Thank you Bill and Inelia :-)
Hi Bill, Inelia
after thinking about this, few questions arised :-). When I do this, I always ask permission from the person where the focus or energy is to be sent or/and to his/her Higher Self. I can't do anything without that permission, whenever I have tried (for instance for a friend unware of this ), It never worked as the Higher self of the person "blocked" the "healing".
But for what I understand from you, you do not ask for permission, not even from the HS of the target person, so I wonder, is this energy coming through you a higher "power" that even the HS of the target person can be overlooked and not taken into account?
I saw that Inelia mentioned that the person has to engage, with its free will, in the contact, and that would account for some sort of permission, but in your example, I wonder how does it work when no "warning" has been given to the target and no permission has been obtained from him/her. This violates the law of free will. Not that I say it can not be done, I want to understand it so I can see if I manage to do it myself with people with whom I got a "no" :-)
hugs!
David
Michelle Marie
21st June 2011, 17:06
Viking~~~Beautiful post! I feel the truth behind your words and I see the love radiating through ALL.
thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
AND SO IT IS!!!
Michelle Marie
Jetsam
21st June 2011, 17:20
What I'm not hundred percent clear on is: " ...But I don’t do anything, I don’t have any intention. I don’t have any attachment to outcome. I don’t have any curiosity. Nothing..."
I understand that, but you as a being or entity, choose to respond to the call of Gaia, are you then not compelled to help or influence for the good?
And that is full of intention the way I see it...
Or am I seeing it wrong? ;p
Tony
21st June 2011, 17:31
Dear Bill,
This is written in the light of polite debate. I am sure what you feel is real for you.
But it is not saying much to me, and perhaps a few others. The problem I see is that
it promotes a belief that nothing has to be done, that people are beings of light and we shall over come.
I totally agree the we more than flesh and blood, and that in essence we are enlightened.
But there 'is' much work to be done. The New Age vocabulary seems to be promoting a
life style of 'I am in love the universe”. A promotion of – it's all about 'me' and my feeling.
This just fixates on self cherishing, and binds one to a small self with big concepts.
If people are too sensitive to discussion this then they know they are not on firm ground.
If ones hackles rise in any way, that means there is an ego there to be defended.
I fact we should be grateful for this, to help strip away the sticky confusion surrounding consciousness.
Wishing you all the best,
Tony
PurpleLama
21st June 2011, 17:52
Welcome to my world!
:p
It does feel amazing to be able to do some good. So good you don't want to ...and have no reason - to stop.
I stopped and 'came back' as I needed to be here, in 'da poop' for a bit longer...it seems.
Funny, I always thought that "da poop" was the matter one had to work on, you know, the very matter "closer to one than one's hands and feet."
But I probably am mistaken and got lost in the meandering labyrinth of the old grimoires...
I think "da poop" here, is meant more in the military, or gangbanger sense, that of a firefight, rather than a reference to the one substance.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. :)
Rocky_Shorz
21st June 2011, 17:55
wow Viking...
Inelia is here to teach angels how to spread their wings, you couldn't have found a more fitting peace...
greybeard
21st June 2011, 18:15
Dear Bill,
This is written in the light of polite debate. I am sure what you feel is real for you.
But it is not saying much to me, and perhaps a few others. The problem I see is that
it promotes a belief that nothing has to be done, that people are beings of light and we shall over come.
I totally agree the we more than flesh and blood, and that in essence we are enlightened.
But there 'is' much work to be done. The New Age vocabulary seems to be promoting a
life style of 'I am in love the universe”. A promotion of – it's all about 'me' and my feeling.
This just fixates on self cherishing, and binds one to a small self with big concepts.
If people are too sensitive to discussion this then they know they are not on firm ground.
If ones hackles rise in any way, that means there is an ego there to be defended.
I fact we should be grateful for this, to help strip away the sticky confusion surrounding consciousness.
Wishing you all the best,
Tony
Also in the light of polite debate
People who are new to deep spiritual teachings are easily confused.
It is impossible to do nothing.
This is a clear example of how spiritual teachings are distorted.
The action of non action means you let your higher self act through you.
In order for this level of spiritual vibration to function there has to be humility.
There has to be a complete surrender to the will of God.
It is the state spoken of by Jesus.
The Father and I are one---It is the Father within who is the doer--- of myself I do nothing.
The Sage the late Ramesh Balsekar explained this and similar ancient teachings with great clarity and simplicity.
He said. Just try and sit there and do nothing.
If it is in accordance with Cosmic Law The WiIl of God your Karma then thats what happens.
In other words it never happens that you sit and do nothing.
Rumi said
I am a hole in the flute that the Christ breath flows through listen to the music
That is surrender to the will of God and humility
His words are still being quoted 100s of years after his death.
It is down to spiritual energy and power.
Its like asking a mouse to pull a log that an elephant lifts effortlessly.
The spiritual power of Gandhi came from devotion to God via humility and surrender.
To some humility can look like a weakness, anger can look like strength.
Not so.
Check the history of Gandhi and see what he achieved through non violence, meditation, and spiritual non-action which is extremely powerful.
Its a question of spiritual power focusing--- that spiritual power requires much work to develop, before it is truly effective as non-action.
Namaste
Tarka the Duck
21st June 2011, 18:15
Welcome to my world!
:p
It does feel amazing to be able to do some good. So good you don't want to ...and have no reason - to stop.
I stopped and 'came back' as I needed to be here, in 'da poop' for a bit longer...it seems.
Hello Carmody - thanks for the post!
Could I just ask for clarification? Are you saying that you returned to the Earth in a human incarnation, purely in order to help sentient beings?
Did you have a choice in this?
If you had not incarnated on the Earth, do you know where you would have gone instead?
Thanks.
Tarka
Selene
21st June 2011, 18:43
Thank you so very much, Greybeard, for your lovely post. Your clarity and poetry in explaining the inexplicable is one of the true jewels of Camelot. We are fortunate indeed to have you among us.
And to all the other good members here who've shared their own sense of "doing without doing": What a pleasure to be in the presence of you all! We are indeed an exceptionaly evolved and capable group, and adding new members every day.
Dear Bill,
This is written in the light of polite debate. I am sure what you feel is real for you.
But it is not saying much to me, and perhaps a few others. The problem I see is that
it promotes a belief that nothing has to be done, that people are beings of light and we shall over come.
I totally agree the we more than flesh and blood, and that in essence we are enlightened.
But there 'is' much work to be done. The New Age vocabulary seems to be promoting a
life style of 'I am in love the universe”. A promotion of – it's all about 'me' and my feeling.
This just fixates on self cherishing, and binds one to a small self with big concepts.
If people are too sensitive to discussion this then they know they are not on firm ground.
If ones hackles rise in any way, that means there is an ego there to be defended.
I fact we should be grateful for this, to help strip away the sticky confusion surrounding consciousness.
Wishing you all the best,
Tony
Also in the light of polite debate
People who are new to deep spiritual teachings are easily confused.
It is impossible to do nothing.
This is a clear example of how spiritual teachings are distorted.
The action of non action means you let your higher self act through you.
In order for this level of spiritual vibration to function there has to be humility.
There has to be a complete surrender to the will of God.
It is the state spoken of by Jesus.
The Father and I are one---It is the Father within who is the doer--- of myself I do nothing.
The Sage the late Ramesh Balsekar explained this and similar ancient teachings with great clarity and simplicity.
He said. Just try and sit there and do nothing.
If it is in accordance with Cosmic Law The WiIl of God your Karma then thats what happens.
In other words it never happens that you sit and do nothing.
Rumi said
I am a hole in the flute that the Christ breath flows through listen to the music
That is surrender to the will of God and humility
His words are still being quoted 100s of years after his death.
It is down to spiritual energy and power.
Its like asking a mouse to pull a log that an elephant lifts effortlessly.
The spiritual power of Gandhi came from devotion to God via humility and surrender.
To some humility can look like a weakness, anger can look like strength.
Not so.
Check the history of Gandhi and see what he achieved through non violence, meditation, and spiritual non-action which is extremely powerful.
Its a question of spiritual power focusing--- that spiritual power requires much work to develop, before it is truly effective as non-action.
Namaste
christian
21st June 2011, 18:44
Bill, your insights have a strong resemblence to the ideas in daoistic literature. For those not familiar with daoism, it is stated that dao is beyond words and hence cannot be explained, yet when attempts are made it commonly refers to an all pervading conscious forcem, which is the animating force of all-that-is, all the illusory things, and the struggle is always to use your free will to get in tune with that, to join this subtle supreme flow.
To illustrate that, this is chapter 37 from the Dao De Jing:
Dao invariably takes no action, and yet there is nothing left undone.
If you can keep it, all things will transform spontaneously.
If, during that process, you should desire to be active,
restrain with simplicity, which has no name.
Simplicity, which has no name, is free of desires.
Being free of desires, it is tranquil.
And the world will be at peace of its own accord.
This concept is not exclusive to daoism of course, it's elementary. Your story merely adds some insight to how it is applied practically, which is very important. As is also stated in the Dao De Jing, lots of people know these subtle truths, but few know how to apply them. It's this paradoxical mixture of being focused and yet not attached, anchor refers to the basic universal laws as formulated in the Handbook for the New Paradigm, greybeard quoted the Nazarene and Rumi, astrid cites the shamanistic concept of being "a hollow bone" and they all state the same thing, it's fundamental!
Tony
21st June 2011, 18:57
Dear Bill,
This is written in the light of polite debate. I am sure what you feel is real for you.
But it is not saying much to me, and perhaps a few others. The problem I see is that
it promotes a belief that nothing has to be done, that people are beings of light and we shall over come.
I totally agree the we more than flesh and blood, and that in essence we are enlightened.
But there 'is' much work to be done. The New Age vocabulary seems to be promoting a
life style of 'I am in love the universe”. A promotion of – it's all about 'me' and my feeling.
This just fixates on self cherishing, and binds one to a small self with big concepts.
If people are too sensitive to discussion this then they know they are not on firm ground.
If ones hackles rise in any way, that means there is an ego there to be defended.
I fact we should be grateful for this, to help strip away the sticky confusion surrounding consciousness.
Wishing you all the best,
Tony
Also in the light of polite debate
People who are new to deep spiritual teachings are easily confused.
It is impossible to do nothing.
This is a clear example of how spiritual teachings are distorted.
The action of non action means you let your higher self act through you.
In order for this level of spiritual vibration to function there has to be humility.
There has to be a complete surrender to the will of God.
It is the state spoken of by Jesus.
The Father and I are one---It is the Father within who is the doer--- of myself I do nothing.
The Sage the late Ramesh Balsekar explained this and similar ancient teachings with great clarity and simplicity.
He said. Just try and sit there and do nothing.
If it is in accordance with Cosmic Law The WiIl of God your Karma then thats what happens.
In other words it never happens that you sit and do nothing.
Rumi said
I am a hole in the flute that the Christ breath flows through listen to the music
That is surrender to the will of God and humility
His words are still being quoted 100s of years after his death.
It is down to spiritual energy and power.
Its like asking a mouse to pull a log that an elephant lifts effortlessly.
The spiritual power of Gandhi came from devotion to God via humility and surrender.
To some humility can look like a weakness, anger can look like strength.
Not so.
Check the history of Gandhi and see what he achieved through non violence, meditation, and spiritual non-action which is extremely powerful.
Its a question of spiritual power focusing--- that spiritual power requires much work to develop, before it is truly effective as non-action.
Namaste
Dear Chris,
Thank you for your polite rely! I wish to agree with you. Rumi, Christ, Gandhi and other great being were realised to some degree. We are not of that calibre, yet!
Humility is knowing that we have much to do to achieve this status. They may have had powers of energy to appear to do nothing.
Realising ones true nature is no big deal, it is just being conscious of being conscious, and realising it pure empty nature.
The work we all have to realise is clearing the stick self cherishing, which wraps pure consciousness in a fog.
The assumption that just by believing lifetimes of fog will clear by itself, is delusional.
I know I'm deluded, but that a start!
People are running away with the idea that the information they receive makes then enlightened, and there is nothing more
for them to do. Information is just the first step. All master have been through some sort of trial or bootcamp. It breaks down the pride!
All the best
Tony
Bhusunda
21st June 2011, 19:57
Bill, this has hit me like thunder clap!!!
Wow, finally some things I am unconsciously doing make sense to me.
My way of putting attention on people and things without judging,
which just happens since any fear inside me is more and more dissipating...
The feeling of presence of someone often for days, even while doing something like writing this article...
Thanks for making this conscious Bill and Inelia!
Inelia has really started a wave inside my heart.
I'm at a complete loss to express my gratitude towards you!
Thank you,
Bhusunda
Carmen
21st June 2011, 20:30
Unless people have experienced the state of 'being' and what happens in that state to event or people in their lives, they will not understand and continue to question and/or argue. Its like the taste of honey, have to taste it to 'know'. Obviously by many of the posts here, lots of members know exactly what Bill and Inelia are talking about. Its like a mirror to their own experiences of 'being'. Once one experiences something and 'knows'. Naysayers can philosophise all they like but direct experience is the touchstone of truth.
Rocky_Shorz
21st June 2011, 20:38
once you find the peaceful truths, nothing the naysayers say can bother you.
instead of feeling anger towards them, it is more of a sorrow...
Steven
21st June 2011, 20:42
...Naysayers can philosophise all they like but direct experience is the touchstone of truth.
Awesome! It becomes obvious to those applying it daily.
Namaste, Steven
Ilie Pandia
21st June 2011, 21:04
Unless people have experienced the state of 'being' and what happens in that state to event or people in their lives, they will not understand and continue to question and/or argue. Its like the taste of honey, have to taste it to 'know'. Obviously by many of the posts here, lots of members know exactly what Bill and Inelia are talking about. Its like a mirror to their own experiences of 'being'. Once one experiences something and 'knows'. Naysayers can philosophise all they like but direct experience is the touchstone of truth.
Thank you Carmen, I was looking the for the right words to say the same thing!
Bill is here relating to us his direct and personal experience. You can debate that all you want, it will not change anything for him. As you say he "knows the taste of honey". I think this article is an acknowledgement for others that do the same type or "work" or have the calling to do such "work". It also goes a long way towards self empowerment, towards find this with in yourself... I struggle a bit with words here, but again, Carmen said it clearly and beautifully.
Limor Wolf
22nd June 2011, 01:02
Taking a look at our human history - many changes where led by pioneers who went before the camp and lit up the road for others to walk safely.we all know that we are in the midst of a MAJOR change,one on a scale that was never seen on the known (published) history of the human race.
The discoveries are enormous to grasp,we also know that we are not living our human potential and not using our abilities as a consequence of severe supression,and because of lack of trust and ignorance of the real Physical laws of the universe.
We are now in a race to obtain this knowledge,against the will of those who want to continue and keep it repressed,If we accept the truth that indeed we are an outcome of a genetic experiment,and there is a wealth of supportive evidence to back this up,than together with this knowledge (some of it is pure internal) there comes the associated effects...if our ancestors that come and visit us by UFO's,
have the abilities to Exceed the speed of light,manipulate time,use telephaty as first 'language', insert thoughts in our mind,Change the composition of their body mass to move between dimensions, than why dont we? is this really so unacceptable to think about?
As our awarness grows and the changes in the world are intensifying ,We raise our vibration and consciousness and so does the planet,than we shed the blocks and remove the barriers that surrounded us for so long,now we can focus on the power of our consciousness,wich is the wheel of our vehicle.
When Inelia describes how she telports herself and is directed for a specific mission by an energy source and listening to others with very similiar life experiences (for example Jason Andrews (http://contactinternationalufo.homestead.com/brbetweentwoworlds.html), Tracy Taylor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez2Xio4tdj8), Rochelle Delia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRBeUV32gKo)),when all pieces of this puzzle are added together and create a near complete picture,we may come to a conclusion that we are here at this time to assist with this earth mission and we are equipped with the appropriate tools to do so.If Bill has recently experienced this advancement on himself,than I hope that this 'virus' is contagious enough and will infect as many of us as needed to assist with the last push during the birth of this new earth.
Time to roll our sleeves
Heartsong
22nd June 2011, 01:23
From Original Post:
Bill, is it possible that the less enlightened or those of the "dark side" could also do this but have negative results? Is there any danger to the practice of complete surrender to an unknown force?
Again I bring up this question. What happens when people with different perspectives - say, Service to self- use this practice to act as a conduit for this energy that flows? What happens when the truly evil use this technique?
truthseekerdan
22nd June 2011, 01:34
From Original Post:
Bill, is it possible that the less enlightened or those of the "dark side" could also do this but have negative results? Is there any danger to the practice of complete surrender to an unknown force?
Again I bring up this question. What happens when people with different perspectives - say, Service to self- use this practice to act as a conduit for this energy that flows? What happens when the truly evil use this technique?
It's already happening... Look at the state of today's humanity. We need to return to a state of consciousness based on Unconditional Love in order for humanity to progress (evolve) to a higher vibrational dimension (density). People will do everything else including the so called "spirituality" that comes with its own set of "rules", but fail to see LOVE as the most important factor in their lifes, and for the ones they encounter in this life...
pilotsimone
22nd June 2011, 01:50
From Original Post:
Bill, is it possible that the less enlightened or those of the "dark side" could also do this but have negative results? Is there any danger to the practice of complete surrender to an unknown force?
Again I bring up this question. What happens when people with different perspectives - say, Service to self- use this practice to act as a conduit for this energy that flows? What happens when the truly evil use this technique?
Inelia: Anybody who reaches a certain level of awareness can do this stuff. It’s part of the human toolkit. It’s not something that I brought in from outside. This is all wired into every human being. And this is part of the human tool kits that are being oppressed, suppressed and invalidated in everybody. And people are taught that they don’t exist, taught that they’re not able to do these things.
Can the person you term 'evil' even reach this level of awareness?
Looking forward to hearing responses on this one.
astrid
22nd June 2011, 02:53
From Original Post:
Bill, is it possible that the less enlightened or those of the "dark side" could also do this but have negative results? Is there any danger to the practice of complete surrender to an unknown force?
Again I bring up this question. What happens when people with different perspectives - say, Service to self- use this practice to act as a conduit for this energy that flows? What happens when the truly evil use this technique?
Think it terms of different levels of vibration.
Like attract like.
Those of a lower vibrational construct, if came into contact with the sorts of energy we are discussing, would be transformed.
They don't get to wield this type of refined energy as its not on their "bandwidth".
As we know they have their own ideas of how to gain power,
but its through milking it of others, it's not from source.
- Well, actually that's not strickly correct as everything is from source,
but they can't take it directly, they need it to be filtered.
Energy from source, never runs out.
The technique is one aspect, but it's the quality, the refined level of vibration,
energy, that is flowing through us the vessels,
that is doing the "work" .
I hope this makes sense.
bearcow
22nd June 2011, 03:20
Bill, your insights have a strong resemblence to the ideas in daoistic literature. For those not familiar with daoism, it is stated that dao is beyond words and hence cannot be explained, yet when attempts are made it commonly refers to an all pervading conscious forcem, which is the animating force of all-that-is, all the illusory things, and the struggle is always to use your free will to get in tune with that, to join this subtle supreme flow.
To illustrate that, this is chapter 37 from the Dao De Jing:
Dao invariably takes no action, and yet there is nothing left undone.
If you can keep it, all things will transform spontaneously.
If, during that process, you should desire to be active,
restrain with simplicity, which has no name.
Simplicity, which has no name, is free of desires.
Being free of desires, it is tranquil.
And the world will be at peace of its own accord.
This concept is not exclusive to daoism of course, it's elementary. Your story merely adds some insight to how it is applied practically, which is very important. As is also stated in the Dao De Jing, lots of people know these subtle truths, but few know how to apply them. It's this paradoxical mixture of being focused and yet not attached, anchor refers to the basic universal laws as formulated in the Handbook for the New Paradigm, greybeard quoted the Nazarene and Rumi, astrid cites the shamanistic concept of being "a hollow bone" and they all state the same thing, it's fundamental!
shen "spirit" gives rise to the wu chi " the movement of synchronicity" wu wei which is activity without resistance. This is what the bhagavad gita is about.
Heartsong
22nd June 2011, 05:02
From Original Post:
Bill, is it possible that the less enlightened or those of the "dark side" could also do this but have negative results? Is there any danger to the practice of complete surrender to an unknown force?
Again I bring up this question. What happens when people with different perspectives - say, Service to self- use this practice to act as a conduit for this energy that flows? What happens when the truly evil use this technique?
Inelia: Anybody who reaches a certain level of awareness can do this stuff. It’s part of the human toolkit. It’s not something that I brought in from outside. This is all wired into every human being. And this is part of the human tool kits that are being oppressed, suppressed and invalidated in everybody. And people are taught that they don’t exist, taught that they’re not able to do these things.
Can the person you term 'evil' even reach this level of awareness?
Looking forward to hearing responses on this one.
Evil people certainly can project their evil energy although i don't know if it's always through conscious effort or not. By extention, if Bill and Inelia were to proceed with their plans to espouse or teach what they know of allowing "source" flow through them, could they be exposing a powerful technique to people who could be destructive with it?
This is not saying that they would want to obviously.
power is power. Good, Godlike, and Loving intention in one person's mind might destroy what another holds dear. For instance, a person might clear a forest to build a Walmart for the greater good of employing his friends and neighbors. This taken to a spiritual level, a Godly person might be the conduit for the inspiration for another to make a discovery to feed his tribe. A person of the dark side might be the conduit for finding a way to hoard food so that other tribes would starve.
Am I making any sense? Or, am I not understanding something.
pilotsimone
22nd June 2011, 05:22
Evil people certainly can project their evil energy although i don't know if it's always through conscious effort or not.
I see a difference between Bill's energy and the energy that he described flowing through him. It was clear to me this was coming through him, not from him. A very distinct difference, no?
I also felt they were saying you can only be this conduit when you've reached a certain level of awareness...how aware can one be if negative entities are using their body in such a way?
Good questions! I hope those with experience will clarify because I'm just guessing at this point. :)
Heartsong
22nd June 2011, 05:29
Evil people certainly can project their evil energy although i don't know if it's always through conscious effort or not.
I see a difference between Bill's energy and the energy that he described flowing through him. It was clear to me this was coming through him, not from him. A very distinct difference, no?
Yes I see the difference. However, conjurors, wizards, generally mystical dark souls do pull energy from somewhere outside themselves.
christian
22nd June 2011, 06:10
People are running away with the idea that the information they receive makes then enlightened, and there is nothing more for them to do. Information is just the first step. All master have been through some sort of trial or bootcamp. It breaks down the pride!
That's like saying "people having read an instruction on how to build an airplane just run away and think they can start immediately". That's not just pride, it's presumptuous to the highest degree. What you are saying Tony should be pretty much self-evident.
Can the person you term 'evil' even reach this level of awareness?
Eventually, to become enlightened, to become one with the source, which one paradoxically never lost connection with in the first place, is not not only a possibility, but everyone's destiny. Meanwhile, everything is possible.
nomadguy
22nd June 2011, 06:55
:tea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZoJTSZ3An0&feature=player_detailpage
pilotsimone
22nd June 2011, 07:19
Can the person you term 'evil' even reach this level of awareness?
Eventually, to become enlightened, to become one with the source, which one paradoxically never lost connection with in the first place, is not not only a possibility, but everyone's destiny. Meanwhile, everything is possible.
I agree with this. I didn't express myself very well. What I meant...
Is the person you term 'evil' at this level of awareness? If not, maybe it's correct to say they can't do this yet.
LadyFae
22nd June 2011, 07:35
Fascinating!!!
joelmags
22nd June 2011, 14:23
Dear Bill and Inelia,
Update: focused, got out of the way.
Had a good number of instantaneous healings today.
Thank you. A lot more people went home smiling and thankful.
Thank you for helping with the mission.
Back to more practice (;-)
Selene
22nd June 2011, 17:06
From Original Post:
Bill, is it possible that the less enlightened or those of the "dark side" could also do this but have negative results? Is there any danger to the practice of complete surrender to an unknown force?
Again I bring up this question. What happens when people with different perspectives - say, Service to self- use this practice to act as a conduit for this energy that flows? What happens when the truly evil use this technique?
Heartsong,
It's very simple: What you do comes back to you. And as you give, you get.
I once read a wonderful short story (author now forgotten) about a girl who wanted to curse everyone and everything around her. She read in a book that the secret was to hate those you wished to curse.
So she tried it. And nothing happened.
She tried again. Nothing.
Suddenly, she realized what she was missing: she also needed to hate herself. And instantly, all her curses began working.
The last line of the story: And the demon, standing behind her, smiled and murmured: “Indeed....”
May all you do come back to you
And as you give, you get
Unconditional love is unconditional love. That's as good guidance as any.
Can the person you term 'evil' even reach this level of awareness?
PilotSimone, the above applies to your question as well.
All best regards,
Selene
Rocky_Shorz
22nd June 2011, 18:57
does this face look familiar?
http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/noticias/28558/240x0/michael-woodward.jpg
¤=[Post Update]=¤
It is Saint Miguel of Santiago...
in English...
Saint Michael Woodward of Santiago
http://bill.inelia.com/images/stories/brocken_specter.jpg
hey Bill, he does sound like someone you would get along with...
"Following the bloody coup headed by Augusto Pinochet, among the many in the eye of the repressive forces where priests were living in working class neighborhoods, and participated in organizations and Christian base communities. Miguel was a focus of the repression, which deemed him an "extremist", even though his only model and teacher was the Christ of the poor. Miguel had the intransigent conviction that the misery and vulnerability of the poor, particularly of the people with whom he lived in Valparaiso, was an injustice that clamored to the heavens and was rooted in greed, egoism, and the defense of privileges of the rich. Miguel was a man of singular integrity who struggled to give witness with his life, until delivering that life in union with Christ, for his friends."... Memorial Link (http://www.memoriayjusticia.cl/english/en_rights-woodward.htm)
and yet another mystery...
Lawyer Sergio Concha explains: "Miguel had problems with the new bishop of Valparaiso, Emilio Tagle. In August 1972 the bishop suspended him from the priesthood, with no explanation...
This illicit association unleashed a State terrorism in the country, that employed torture as an important foundation from which to implant mass fear in the population. It is believed that approximately 500,000 persons were tortured during the dictatorship. The numbers of persons subjected to torture in Valparaiso and all the Fifth Region cannot be easily calculated, since every person arrested was, at some point, subjected to torture...
you know it is really a shame when a post goes by like this one and nobody notices...
you see, Saint Miguel wasn't standing in front of Bill, he was standing behind him and there is no arguing about authenticity of the image because we can all see Bill's hat...
he saw Bill was dizzy standing in heaven's light so he put a hand on his shoulder...
He told me he gave Bill a gift
it wasn't until I saw this photo that I understood what it was, he gave him a glimpse of Heaven's Light allowing him to capture in an image to share with all of us... We are Truth seekers... and what a very special truth...
now the real question, why did the Catholic Church sign Father Miguel's death sentence, casting him to the wolves by removing their wing of protection...
Ian Gordon
23rd June 2011, 20:57
Hi, just posted on another thread, only to find the answers and my feelings expressed better here, more precise than I could have ever penned.
a true sense of coming home.
Rocky_Shorz
23rd June 2011, 23:38
hi Ian, welcome to Avalon...
not wanting to dis-rail this incredible thread started by Bill, I'll start a new thread on Woodward and whether he deserves to be Sainted...
Maia Gabrial
24th June 2011, 00:10
So, now I understand why I got so emotional when I read "The Cry of Gaia". There was alot of love focused in the words. Sure reached me deeply....
Thank you, Bill and Inelia.
Maia
DeDukshyn
24th June 2011, 00:16
----
A quick note to everyone! If this attracts your interest, do consider reading my opening post several times. :)
This is the highest expression of transformational intervention that I've encountered. It's more than Love... this is something else entirely. I do not pretend to understand it.
You are very right Bill. :)
Everything "more than Love" is an illusion -- hence it's not required to understand. Without Love nothing will change no matter what one would do... JMHO
Much Love ~ Dan
Let's have Dan define what he meant by love, have Bill define what he meant by love, then understand each other better - I believe that's all it takes. ;)
But in support of Dan, loving everything we do and perceive makes it "real".
Michelle Marie
24th June 2011, 03:54
----
A quick note to everyone! If this attracts your interest, do consider reading my opening post several times. :)
This is the highest expression of transformational intervention that I've encountered. It's more than Love... this is something else entirely. I do not pretend to understand it.
You are very right Bill. :)
Everything "more than Love" is an illusion -- hence it's not required to understand. Without Love nothing will change no matter what one would do... JMHO
Much Love ~ Dan
Let's have Dan define what he meant by love, have Bill define what he meant by love, then understand each other better - I believe that's all it takes. ;)
But in support of Dan, loving everything we do and perceive makes it "real".
It's only the love that is REAL. It is the the substance of all. The LIGHT of imagination [mind focus] creates the form, or the target of the LOVE. Where our focus of attention goes, so goes the true vibration of our hearts. Pure projections are when there is no personal gain or attachment. LOVE KNOWS.
We purify the HEART as we send its energy right back, FULL CIRCLE, to our Creator, and we become WHOLE...united in consciousness. I see this evolution unfolding.
In conscious evolution, we do this on purpose with vigilance, applying the truth that arises as guidance, intuitive insights, direct knowing. We truly are shifting...ourselves and all...as we are ONE.
The shift feels to be accelerating and intensifying. New awareness is being born right through us. Sharing these thoughts and experiences helps us to feel united, and we know that what we are each going through may have a different outer look, but inside, it's the same. We are experiencing Universal changes together.
The more we just let go [and become the neutral observer], the easier the shift, and the more we can be used as the Transformational Lens of UFI - unidentified focus of intention. LOL
Lots of love and grace,
Michelle Marie
bhakti8
24th June 2011, 04:49
Thank you. This was great confirmation with what I am going through. We are going to envelope the world one by one with these higher frequencies. This is how it is going to get done. A silent but powerful revolution....the only requirement.... to show up and be present and ready to surrender to love. Much gratitude Lynn
Flash
24th June 2011, 07:09
does this face look familiar?
http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/noticias/28558/240x0/michael-woodward.jpg
¤=[Post Update]=¤
It is Saint Miguel of Santiago...
in English...
Saint Michael Woodward of Santiago
http://bill.inelia.com/images/stories/brocken_specter.jpg
hey Bill, he does sound like someone you would get along with... What is this comment about? I do not understand
"Following the bloody coup headed by Augusto Pinochet, among the many in the eye of the repressive forces where priests were living in working class neighborhoods, and participated in organizations and Christian base communities. Miguel was a focus of the repression, which deemed him an "extremist", even though his only model and teacher was the Christ of the poor. Miguel had the intransigent conviction that the misery and vulnerability of the poor, particularly of the people with whom he lived in Valparaiso, was an injustice that clamored to the heavens and was rooted in greed, egoism, and the defense of privileges of the rich. Miguel was a man of singular integrity who struggled to give witness with his life, until delivering that life in union with Christ, for his friends."... Memorial Link (http://www.memoriayjusticia.cl/english/en_rights-woodward.htm)
and yet another mystery...
Lawyer Sergio Concha explains: "Miguel had problems with the new bishop of Valparaiso, Emilio Tagle. In August 1972 the bishop suspended him from the priesthood, with no explanation... Rocky, you may put some obliged to take side. What do you mean here by ... no explanation... I could give it if you want, and it is not related to Inelia whatsoever
This illicit association unleashed a State terrorism in the country, that employed torture as an important foundation from which to implant mass fear in the population. It is believed that approximately 500,000 persons were tortured during the dictatorship. The numbers of persons subjected to torture in Valparaiso and all the Fifth Region cannot be easily calculated, since every person arrested was, at some point, subjected to torture... Which illicit association are you speaking of here, the church and the state of Woodward and the state? Are you implying Woodward or what?
you know it is really a shame when a post goes by like this one and nobody notices...
you see, Saint Miguel wasn't standing in front of Bill, he was standing behind him and there is no arguing about authenticity of the image because we can all see Bill's hat...
he saw Bill was dizzy standing in heaven's light so he put a hand on his shoulder...
He told me he gave Bill a gift
it wasn't until I saw this photo that I understood what it was, he gave him a glimpse of Heaven's Light allowing him to capture in an image to share with all of us... We are Truth seekers... and what a very special truth... Are you saying Bill had a real gift, please explain
now the real question, why did the Catholic Church sign Father Miguel's death sentence, casting him to the wolves by removing their wing of protection... fIf you know, please tell us
I really sincerely want to understand what you wrote about and I can't. It makes me suspicious, please help me in removing the suspicion by clarifying.
mevlana
24th June 2011, 13:27
Bill would you like to address the issues you said you would on the Atticus and group of 18 thread you started please, we have been waiting for weeks now? There has been nearly TWO THOUSAND posts here and we are eagerly awaiting your promise of a response of some sort at least. If you did say something in some way to explain certain things we have been debating on this thread, which is nearing nearly TWO THOUSAND posts, I could for one at least listen to what you are saying on this thread with interest. Until you face up to the promise you gave us here, how can I possibly take anything at all seriously? You seem to be hiding behind Inelia in some sort of way, instead of clearing up all the loose ends.
I am saying this with LOVE in my Heart I can assure you! I have always had enormous respect for you Sir and it breaks my heart to post this.
Love to you always and to Inelia
Stan
i tried to read 2000 post earlier but I lost interest at apples and oranges sum. i felt a lot hate, fear, untrustworthy, but little love there.
greybeard
24th June 2011, 14:14
----
A quick note to everyone! If this attracts your interest, do consider reading my opening post several times. :)
This is the highest expression of transformational intervention that I've encountered. It's more than Love... this is something else entirely. I do not pretend to understand it.
You are very right Bill. :)
Everything "more than Love" is an illusion -- hence it's not required to understand. Without Love nothing will change no matter what one would do... JMHO
Much Love ~ Dan
Let's have Dan define what he meant by love, have Bill define what he meant by love, then understand each other better - I believe that's all it takes. ;)
But in support of Dan, loving everything we do and perceive makes it "real".
It's only the love that is REAL. It is the the substance of all. The LIGHT of imagination [mind focus] creates the form, or the target of the LOVE. Where our focus of attention goes, so goes the true vibration of our hearts. Pure projections are when there is no personal gain or attachment. LOVE KNOWS.
We purify the HEART as we send its energy right back, FULL CIRCLE, to our Creator, and we become WHOLE...united in consciousness. I see this evolution unfolding.
In conscious evolution, we do this on purpose with vigilance, applying the truth that arises as guidance, intuitive insights, direct knowing. We truly are shifting...ourselves and all...as we are ONE.
The shift feels to be accelerating and intensifying. New awareness is being born right through us. Sharing these thoughts and experiences helps us to feel united, and we know that what we are each going through may have a different outer look, but inside, it's the same. We are experiencing Universal changes together.
The more we just let go [and become the neutral observer], the easier the shift, and the more we can be used as the Transformational Lens of UFI - unidentified focus of intention. LOL
Lots of love and grace,
Michelle Marie
Dan posted this on the enlightenment thread
Jesus said: “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”
"You'll know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free."
Love is the answer
Sharing is very helpful there is no doubt about that.
Spiritual experiences come and go but there is great encouragement in them.
As in the quote we look here and there but eventually we find that the love we are looking for is to be found within.
Even the best spiritual teacher can only point to what they found.
Very often their life changing experience is not through something they did, therefore it cant be taught, it happened spontaneously.
The sages who are eternally in unity consciousness point to ways we can remove obstacles to this realization of Self but invariably it is by the Grace of God that the permanent state ocurs.
Till then devotion to God and humility brings great reward.
Chris
Ps I believe we are on the verge of a transformation of epic proportion because it is the will of God.
Christ Consciousness-- enlightenment, essentially the same state.
Rocky_Shorz
24th June 2011, 20:06
now the real question, why did the Catholic Church sign Father Miguel's death sentence, casting him to the wolves by removing their wing of protection...
fIf you know, please tell us
I really sincerely want to understand what you wrote about and I can't. It makes me suspicious, please help me in removing the suspicion by clarifying.
The Woodward Report, Rocky Style... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23528-The-Woodward-Thread&p=249929&viewfull=1#post249929)
truthseekerdan
24th June 2011, 23:57
----
A quick note to everyone! If this attracts your interest, do consider reading my opening post several times. :)
This is the highest expression of transformational intervention that I've encountered. It's more than Love... this is something else entirely. I do not pretend to understand it.
You are very right Bill. :)
Everything "more than Love" is an illusion -- hence it's not required to understand. Without Love nothing will change no matter what one would do... JMHO
Much Love ~ Dan
Let's have Dan define what he meant by love, have Bill define what he meant by love, then understand each other better - I believe that's all it takes. ;)
But in support of Dan, loving everything we do and perceive makes it "real".
Dear DeDukshyn, I will encourage you as well as others to watch this video with David Icke. He comes very close to what I meant by being and manifesting Love...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4H3mlqAKjQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4H3mlqAKjQ
Much Love to All
LesliesFarm
26th June 2011, 00:21
Hello Friends,
I have been riveted to this thread since Bill announced the seminar in Sedona. I am determined to attend. I have not received a response from Bill, but I assumed it was because of the seminar in Equador - he must have his hands quite full. If anyone knows any details about the event, please share.
Leslie
Carmody
26th June 2011, 02:19
Or:
... But I don’t do anything, I don’t have any intention. I don’t have any attachment to outcome. I don’t have any curiosity. Nothing. It’s just complete focus. And what appears to happen is, then there’s something else – whatever it is, the Divine force, energy, chi, whatever – comes through and directly into her to resolve and do whatever, that I have no idea what it is. And then it’s done.
This to me is partly reminescent of what happens with healing through Reiki, which I have been taught a little bit.
Amazing... and yet healing (can) occur. You (as the healer) don't know why. You don't do much. You simply are very present...
At least, this has been reported to me by a girlfriend of mine who does practice with an immense sense of ease and... absence of any self interest.
The science of the answer to these riddles....starts around this post. I'm thinking of making it a different thread, and probably will duplicate those posts in a separate thread.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?22728-Intro-to-Timelines-for-Dummy-s-101&p=250063&viewfull=1#post250063
TOTHE
26th June 2011, 03:28
Dear DeDukshyn, I will encourage you as well as others to watch this video with David Icke. He comes very close to what I meant by being and manifesting Love...
David Icke, it is all in his book: Human Race Get Off Your Knees: The Lion Sleeps No More. I had to read it two times to burn it in properly. The "Transformational Lens" concept was explained therein and was promptly grabbed by New Age Thoughtform.
Bill and Inelia are showing us how to call forth and introducing practical ways that we can apply this tool in our lives and swing the human collective with the planet into a higher vibration.
Things are moving fast, that "Cry of Gaia" we are picking up just now probably went out 65M years ago in time-space..I think we are already awake and there is a BIG and knowing audience watching.
By the time October rolls around I figure most of my personal questions will be answered and I can say to Bill and Inelia "Good job, We did it!". :-)
noxon medem
28th June 2011, 20:12
Somehow related to thread ...
Give your Children the Roots and the Wings
And They will manage Fine, on their Own ...
- unknown source, but for me, in a time of need
of that guidance, it was perfectly served by a media .
(a book, in that case)
8287
I think a large task in focusing is the challenge of depth view.
( or rather wide view ....)
8286
And for our minds to overcome the simplistic, dualistic, thinking.
We are both intellect and instinct, and intuition, and more.
8285
I am, amongst other things, an experienced photographer.
Looking at a simple greyscale illustration give some sense.
Of balanced views, to better focus .....
8288
Easy on the eyes, and all well all.
:fish2:
nm
Wizadora
30th June 2011, 03:01
Thank You Bill. Your post resonates. You mention the Process, a number of times and I concur. Love the Process and the Outcome Will Be assured, in essence Be and exude Love unconditional.
Some time ago, my Mother told me 'Out of all my children, I worry for you the most' I enquired 'Why?' My Mother said 'Because you love everybody'. Now as a Mother myself, I overstand this given those who are less than positive in society. However, I am that I am. This way of Being,unconditional love and positive regard for others has enabled me to enfold others.
Or:
So you want to transform the world?
Well… here’s one way you can do it.
Dear Friends: this may be the one of the most important posts you have ever encountered. Read carefully – maybe several times.
The best place to start is with these words from Inelia’s first video interview (http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/inelia_benz_3-10-11_en.html) with myself.
Bill: You may have cured her or healed her or stopped her from killing herself or resolved a problem or something. But what is that process? How does it work? How can you explain this? How can you explain what’s happening?
Inelia: The best way to describe it would be that my focus goes to her. And I am there 110 percent in every dimension, in every time-space for that moment. That’s how I can... But I don’t do anything, I don’t have any intention. I don’t have any attachment to outcome. I don’t have any curiosity. Nothing. It’s just complete focus. And what appears to happen is, then there’s something else – whatever it is, the Divine force, energy, chi, whatever – comes through and directly into her to resolve and do whatever, that I have no idea what it is. And then it’s done.
Like many others, I marveled at Inelia’s description of the work that she has done since she was a small child: as a transformational instrument of something far larger and greater than her human persona. She would regularly receive ‘directions’ from a clearly benevolent higher source about where to place what she calls her ‘focus’. And then some kind of magic would occur.
And, as she describes, that’s all she did – thousands of times over the years on ‘targets’ great and small. The effect was always transformational. And Inelia herself is at pains to stress that she herself did nothing. It was something far greater than anything merely human - operating through her like a lens.
In many private conversations, I quizzed her about this process. What did she do? What did the experience feel like? How did she select her targets – or receive the information about where to direct her attention? Who or what was behind all this? What on Earth (or maybe not on Earth at all!) was going on?
Many times in Inelia’s interview, she emphasized that her extraordinary gifts were the birthright of all humans. From her interview again:
Inelia: Anybody who reaches a certain level of awareness can do this stuff. It’s part of the human toolkit. It’s not something that I brought in from outside. This is all wired into every human being. And this is part of the human tool kits that are being oppressed, suppressed and invalidated in everybody. And people are taught that they don’t exist, taught that they’re not able to do these things.
These words were encouraging to hear. But like thousands of other viewers of the video, I thought: Well, that’s for someone else to be able to do. Not me.
How wrong I was. Let me share what happened a couple of days ago.
Inelia and I had just published our first major joint article: The Cry of Gaia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23176-The-Cry-of-Gaia). If you’ve not read this, it’s recommended. It describes the Crie de Coeur of Gaia herself, the archetypal Goddess-Guardian of the Earth and all living things who call the Earth their home. As I explain in the article, I had a profound experience that showed me directly that this magnificent entity was very real, and not just a handy ecological metaphor.
Although immensely strong and certain to way outlive all transient human activity, Gaia is under pressure: the human race is out of all balance, collectively grossly unaware and irresponsible even if only because of our unthinking passive agreement about what is going on around us. And a minority of humans – if humans they are – are bent on destruction of all that is beautiful and good. As Inelia says:
Inelia: There was a big call from the planet as an entity, and light beings within the planet, saying “Help! To do this we need help.”
And that call went out, and it wasn’t just a planetary call. It was also from other beings around in the galaxy which will be affected by what happens on the planet, maybe not today, but maybe in a million years, and that call was HUGE. A huge call from sentient consciousness, for some sort of intervention on the planet to allow it – in this timeline – to make the shift that it’s supposed to make and which is trying to be stopped by the negativity.
So, it was a huge call. And that’s why beings like myself can come into time-space and do this – because it’s a response to that call.
I’d inserted some images to illustrate the article. One poignant image was this one – a real photograph, despite its surreal quality – taken in Nigeria by National Geographic photojournalist Ed Kashi, whom I interviewed last year:
http://projectavalon.net/Niger_2.jpg
Of all the images I have ever seen, this one surely encapsulates the problem of the ruin of the planet: a despairing, dignified human - still somehow, almost hopelessly, trying to make things work against an apocalyptic backdrop, a wasteland of polluted destruction.
I gazed at this awful scene, wondering just what it would take to fix this. It’s a solvable problem: there do exist people who have the power and the resources to fix these issues with a stroke of their pen, with the click of their fingers.
And suddenly, my focus – this is the only way I can put it – swung round like a compass needle. It settled – like a magnet – on an individual who I could (but will not) describe. I could see him in my mind’s eye. I saw his face, and what he was wearing. A powerful person, but a human person, indeed with the resources to heal these atrocities. I gazed at him… suddenly totally aware what was happening.
In the background ran the human thought in my mind: “This is what Inelia was describing. I’m experiencing this now myself. My God, this is flowing through me too.”
And all I was doing was gazing at the wall of my room. But I was looking at him intently. There was no judgment, no intention, no attachment. Again, as Inelia describes:
Inelia: And I sat next to him. And I just looked. I was just looking at him and he was looking at me. And I had no agenda. I didn’t know what was going to happen or anything. I was just sitting with him.
I became aware of a gradually increasing energy flowing through me from behind and above me, through me, towards my ‘target’. And meanwhile, I was doing nothing at all. I was just pointing my attention at him – or, to exact, I was allowing my attention to be directed at this person.
I was clear, as it was occurring, that my human attention was functioning as a vehicle for something that was entirely different from anything I’d ever experienced before. A part of me was marveling: while another part of me was quietly dispassionate, calm, still, focused, adding nothing at all to what was happening.
I held my focus for ten minutes (I’d noted the time when it started). It was the easiest thing in the world. There was nothing to do. And that sentence is the key.
I was being steered, guided, was allowing myself to be an instrument for some kind of process far greater than myself. It was a kind of surrender, a symbiosis with a greater power. The only thing was what not to do: not to get in the way.
It was crystal clear that what was necessary for this to work was the removal of all ‘normal’ human additives – intention, attachment, judgment, ego, even any sense that what has happening was in some way important. The mystics, meditators and students of esoteric practices reading this may understand immediately. For the rest of you, my purpose in writing this article is to assist you in reaching the point where you too can experience this.
It was a profound simplicity. We complex humans often do not allow ourselves to be sufficiently simple to do what is needed all around us.
And that is my story. I do not know the man’s name. But I know his position and his potential influence. I will have no immediate way of knowing whether this had a real-world effect. But I feel certain that it did.
After those initial ten minutes, I checked with Inelia – realizing that I could place the everyday human component of my attention on to other activities while the process ran in the background. I described what I was experiencing, and she confirmed that I was duplicating her experience. I also checked my intuition that I could indeed get on with everyday matters, and did not have to stay up all night gazing at the wall.
Laughing, Inelia confirmed that I could indeed ‘let it run’ – and that the process might last minutes, hours, days, weeks, or months. She told me that I would know when it was complete.
The process continued – and I was not sure whether it was complete or not. It’s like I was waiting for some kind of signal, as when the toaster pops up its toast when it’s exactly ready. Nothing seemed to happen, and I wondered if I’d missed something. I even wondered if my process might differ from Inelia’s in some way.
But when I woke up this morning – nearly 36 hours after it all started – I realized fully that it was complete. I just knew – exactly as Inelia described that I would.
And, soon after, I had two similar experiences following that one. Inelia had explained to me that these could run in parallel with one another with no problem, no overlap, and no stress. That seemed hard to imagine, but about 40 minutes after the start of the initial experience, I locked onto another target of another kind entirely (a human who had died and whom I knew to be suffering greatly). I focused on his spirit, which I could perceive clearly, with detachment and yet with great compassion. That process also was over by the time I woke up this morning.
And finally, I had a ‘small one’ – my third in a day and a half – which Inelia confirmed often happens with her: it was suddenly there this morning, and came and went rapidly: it lasted for maybe two minutes. The effect was subtle, but distinct, and I recognized what was occurring. Inelia said, simply: “Yes, some can be very quick.”
And there we have it. It’s not a complicated story. To the contrary, it’s all so simple. But it seemed important that I share my experience. Here’s the significance:
Inelia, and certainly many others of her kind, have been doing this work, quietly and without fuss, for years. The result is as Inelia describes:
Bill: And... and restoring free will and self determinism to the citizens of the planet – how far on track are we? Can we measure this? Are we doing well?
Inelia: We are doing EXTREMELY well. Way beyond any expectations and also, its wide open right now. It’s wide open. There are no limits to how much can be accomplished.
Bill: So it’s wide open in terms of the degree of positive potential?
Inelia: Yes.
But it’s not over yet. We can’t relax. There are hundreds of people already doing this work; we may never know their names. But we need thousands. Tens of thousands. And more.
This is where you can play your part. For some of you reading this, this is what you came here to do. It might just be that reading this post may be the tipping point to enable you to start your mission.
Remember: Profound Simplicity. Get your human intentions, attachment, judgment, ego, and even curiosity right out of the way. If you have thoughts or emotions, acknowledge them and let them move on. And let the magnetic compass needle of your attention swing freely to locate its target.
You will have no control over what, when, or even why. Surrender to whatever is operating through you and allow yourself to be a clear lens whose only function is to point in a particular direction.
Then let a Power that is far greater than yours, or mine, do all the rest.
Bill Ryan
20 June, 2011
Wizadora
30th June 2011, 03:13
If you can see the Light within yourself then you
cannot help showing it to others.
By releasing doubt and uncertainty we become
able to Love others without hesitation
and without regret.
When you stop telling yourself what you could be,
you can start enjoying what you already are.
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A quick note to everyone! If this attracts your interest, do consider reading my opening post several times. :)
This is the highest expression of transformational intervention that I've encountered. It's more than Love... this is something else entirely. I do not pretend to understand it.
You are very right Bill. :)
Everything "more than Love" is an illusion -- hence it's not required to understand. Without Love nothing will change no matter what one would do... JMHO
Much Love ~ Dan
Let's have Dan define what he meant by love, have Bill define what he meant by love, then understand each other better - I believe that's all it takes. ;)
But in support of Dan, loving everything we do and perceive makes it "real".
It's only the love that is REAL. It is the the substance of all. The LIGHT of imagination [mind focus] creates the form, or the target of the LOVE. Where our focus of attention goes, so goes the true vibration of our hearts. Pure projections are when there is no personal gain or attachment. LOVE KNOWS.
We purify the HEART as we send its energy right back, FULL CIRCLE, to our Creator, and we become WHOLE...united in consciousness. I see this evolution unfolding.
In conscious evolution, we do this on purpose with vigilance, applying the truth that arises as guidance, intuitive insights, direct knowing. We truly are shifting...ourselves and all...as we are ONE.
The shift feels to be accelerating and intensifying. New awareness is being born right through us. Sharing these thoughts and experiences helps us to feel united, and we know that what we are each going through may have a different outer look, but inside, it's the same. We are experiencing Universal changes together.
The more we just let go [and become the neutral observer], the easier the shift, and the more we can be used as the Transformational Lens of UFI - unidentified focus of intention. LOL
Lots of love and grace,
Michelle Marie
Dan posted this on the enlightenment thread
Jesus said: “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”
"You'll know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free."
Love is the answer
Sharing is very helpful there is no doubt about that.
Spiritual experiences come and go but there is great encouragement in them.
As in the quote we look here and there but eventually we find that the love we are looking for is to be found within.
Even the best spiritual teacher can only point to what they found.
Very often their life changing experience is not through something they did, therefore it cant be taught, it happened spontaneously.
The sages who are eternally in unity consciousness point to ways we can remove obstacles to this realization of Self but invariably it is by the Grace of God that the permanent state ocurs.
Till then devotion to God and humility brings great reward.
Chris
Ps I believe we are on the verge of a transformation of epic proportion because it is the will of God.
Christ Consciousness-- enlightenment, essentially the same state.
Mother
1st July 2011, 19:58
Hello everyone, I´ve just created a Group for those who were at Vilcabamba, living the reality of a remarkable meeting to share "The role of spirit to transform a world in crisis".
Feelings, thoughts, feed-back and contacts are welcome.
Those who couldn´t come are welcome as well, and it would be a pleasure to share the experience.
paul1972
2nd July 2011, 13:29
anyone here see the connection between this and reconnective healing?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20906-Dr-Eric-Pearl-The-Reconnection-How-it-all-started-&p=254752#post254752
love
paul1972
Camilo
6th July 2011, 20:42
Great, looking forward to engage with it. Namaste
Laura Elina
14th July 2011, 16:56
"You see me and I see you ...And all that is left is I." Someone very dear to me once said that. A memory that came back while I was reading this thread.
(Another random thought that was sparked by Greybeard's post, the greatest spiritual teacher cannot do but point at the direction, where the "door" may be found. "You think it is the stars you're gazing at? You're looking at a reflection of yourself." When you grab the knob to open the door... You have already chosen, where it leads. And that is the greatest teaching I have received, to have been smiled at and told that I have legs, all I need to be able to walk. No higher power than the truth, and suppose everyone decides their own truth. So what does that make you?)
Hope everyone is having a good day.
Carmen
16th July 2011, 01:50
The importance of focus can not be overstessed. Our children should be taught this in school. To know how to clear the space of our personality mind to allow the greater Mind of God to come through. To be "present" in all that we do. To be "present" with people we are with. Not to be trying to 'best' them or have the last word. To really "listen" with "Presence and Focus" Not to be thinking of what we want to say to them. This allows us to really "know" . We get out of our own way. As Inelia says, we dont have to "do" anything. The God Self comes through us and does the work. No opinion, no judgement, just "being". When our minds are clear and we are present with whatever we are doing and whomever we are with, when we do bring up in thought what we wish to have, to manifest in our lives, happens quite quickly. The thought processes become very precious and carefully guarded because we will get what we wish for. Our thoughts are always creative whether we realize it or not. We are responsible for our thoughts, they are our babies.
Carmen
16th July 2011, 23:46
There are many different methods we can use to learn how to focus. All of them are quite simple but can also be difficult. Our culture via television, schooling etc has scrambled our minds and I now see that as a deliberate plan to keep our minds fearful and scrambled.
All the various means of meditation help in teaching us focus. Being present with all we do and not allowing the mind to hive off on its own, thinking of anything 'but" what we are physically 'doing'. When we become 'aware' of what the mind is 'doing', and we have a desire to bring it under our conscious control, we can then gently bring it back to purpose.
In the early days when I was practicing being 'present' I was on a car journey with my husband. I intended to stay in the present moment all day. Well, I went unconscious at one point and the mind wandered off. Next thing a hail of smallest stones hit my side of the windscreen and gave me a hell of a fright which brought me back to the 'present'!!! Once we are on the spiritual journey consciously, the universe sets out to help us with our intentions!!!
Another excellent focusing exercise is candle focus. This is very pleasant to do and really helps to focus our minds.
Star
17th July 2011, 16:31
Hello Carmen,
Thank you for your posts as they help me with this type of work I have been doing trying to stay in the present moment. It is particularly difficult as I am on social security, with no other resources and if they don't pay I cannot pay my rent or other bills like phone, heat and internet....Although I know others are dealing also with different types of crisis, this means one is no less important than the other in learning to focus and stay present. Anyone here want to create a group of us to remind each other to stay in the moment, lol?
Love & Light,
Star
So is the movie, "The Secret" a lie because it teaches us to desire a particular future outcome to manifest it? Or when it comes to healing there is a different process? I wonder if one can heal one's own physical issues through the way Inela eloquently reminded us? I remember hearing in my mind that I was a healer while I was playing with my dolls as a child and now that I'm almost 30 I thought maybe it was a lie, but Inela and Bill have motivated me to see a brighter picture...maybe the visions I have of people are actually healing experiences, and maybe that one time some years ago in church when despite my will, (actually busy working on a drawing for class), I felt like my solar plexus floated me from the back of the church to the front to pray for a woman who displayed possession behaviors. I didn't feel like I helped in anyway as several of us stood there and prayed for her, but I totally need to change my outlook, unlearn what I have learned. Many thanks friends for sharing your experiences.
Carmen
18th July 2011, 01:47
Star, when I read your post my mind immediately went to a little book I read some time ago called "Sons of God" by Christine Merci. It can be picked up second hand from Alibri Books (probably others also). In the book is a fabulous learning on gratefulness. To be grateful in all things. Christine Merci's story is true. She was at the bottom. She had lost her beloved husband in the Korean War and was going through a very long and drawn out grieving process. She had lost her job and was stony broke and desperate. She ended up going to a desert area where she had first met her husband and completely lost and depressed she called out for help. (BTW this is a very rough outline of the story.) There she received inspiration/enlightenment and it came with the suggestion that she was to be grateful for her life. That was it. Just to be grateful. It was her first guidance from her God Self (Higher Self). She found herself on a bus heading toward LA (where she would never have gone herself) where she ended up in a filthy room in LA. Her description of the room painted a dreadful picture but she determined to honour her undertaking to be grateful in all things. (She had made a binding commitment to just that out in the desert) She set about cleaning it as best she could with no resources.
The book goes on from there with her being grateful, refusing to go down again, and listening and responding to inspiration and direction from her Inner Beingness, her Inner God. Allowing only thoughts that were uplifting into her mind brought her vibration up and into an advancing state again.
Focusing, clearing the mind allows your GodSelf to impart to you inpiration and guidance to help you. Being the wise steward of your own mind governs what enters there and therefore what is outpictured (manifested) in your life.
Not that Im suggesting that you are in such dire straights, but for me this book was such a great reminder of the acsension attitude of gratitude. Gratitude is the Abundance Attitude. Those who have it, more is added. Those who don't, more is taken away.
Love to you
Carmen
Carmen
18th July 2011, 02:05
No, "The Secret" is not a lie. Manifesting isnt quite as simple I dont think, as has been portrayed in "The Secret" Definitely what we wish to manifest in our lives, we should focus upon.
Focusing as a discipline by itself is the means of clearing the slate, pushing back the furniture, making a clearance. Our minds are Sooo full of chatter, of beliefs, of just plain stuff, that in most people there is no gap to it, no room for our GodSelf to impart anything to us. No room for inspiration in all the clutter!!
When our minds are clear and clean from some sort of focused work/discipline, then, what we put into that clear lens, our God can Observe and manifest for us, quite quickly. But, we have to do the work!! Our GodSelf just waits patiently, life after life, for us to Shut Up!!!! So it can Say Something.
nomadguy
18th July 2011, 03:56
to put it in a riddle - Manifestation it is like reaching for a beach ball among the waves of the ocean.
Not so simple to catch that ball now is it?
http://www.dreamstime.com/beach-ball-thumb1125487.jpg
Star
18th July 2011, 12:07
Dear Carmen,
Thank you so much for your kind and helpful response. I have always had gratitude in my life. Whenever a friend showed a small act of kindness towards me I was/am so grateful that I often cry when expressing my thanks. I was once in the world with a prosperous business with my husband and was always generous and kind to those less fortunate in any way, never thinking what was ahead of me in my future. When I decided to leave this abusive (in all ways) 22 year relationship, I lost my children, my parents said they would have nothing to do with me if I proceeded, (even though I saw my mother so often abused by my father for so many years). I could not imagine how this could happen as I wanted my children...I will leave it at that...I am an only child and walked this horrendous path alone, except for a few friends who lived far away.
My income dropped to $5000 a year as I kept losing jobs due to many symptoms I could not understand. After a few years I was finally brought to an HMO where I was marketing coordinator and 100% covered. Shortly they had to let me go for the same symptoms and I had a huge attack and was able to barely get to a neurologist who diagnosed me with multiple sclerosis after being put in the hospital also, but I was completely covered and felt so fortunate that I finally knew what was wrong. I had to go on welfare, medicaid etc and never again worked in the world but was brought to a spiritual D.O. who only did cranio-sacral work, was not affiliated with any hospital, rarely gave out drugs but often sent you to the health food store for remedies and felt that the body was self-healing.
I was led by him to a spiriutal counselor, who introduced me to A Course In Miracles and took me on for whatever I could give, which was usually $0. He said our connection was not about money but about Love and it was hard for me to accept this help. As I read more and was very much alone, I started to become more peaceful and had to apply for social security disability. Was refused 3x and had to go before a judge. By then I realized my fate was not in the judges hands but to a Higher Order and I was ready to accept whatever came down as ok. I had no fear but was quite ill as my lawyer had to drive me there. He passed me immediately after I told him why I could not work gainfully. I started to feel more peaceful and safe within and began a slow climb to feeling better. I still had bitterness, anger, pain and resentment over the rejection of my parents and manipulation of my young children.
That was 30 yrs. ago and the past 2 yrs have been intense upbringing of all these things and brought up hate I never got in touch with. Then by asking for release from this pain and I lost all energy, I began to understand Karma, and that I drew this situation to myself for reasons I did not completely understand and I started to look at those involved from their dysfunctional lives and began to understand that they were responding in the only way they could given their life experience. I began to forgive. I now feel my MS was directly brought on by this traumatic loss and unresolved feelings of bitterness/hate etc. I wondered why on what seems like a lifetime of spiritual journey that I had no friends and was still so alone. It made no sense. I did leave that teaching also and became agnostic in the sense that I did not believe in a god that created such a world, such a defective body and such imbalance in life etc etc.
I started to learn from Project Camelot in 2007/08 about UFO/ET,s, conspiracy in government and politics, and many other things that felt so right for me that were back by credible whistleblowers. I left that for a time and found PA and did not delve into the negative history but listened to the Bill/Inelia interview and the Kerry/Bill interview on what happend to Camelot and knew I wanted to be here to raise my consciousness since I have now healed my past, know that god did not create me and who really did and ended up with such a wonderful group of loving friends. I talk to several on Skype, others in email and cherish all of them. They are sustaining me and I do not feel alone anymore. I feel love and know I am LOVE also. I always have gratitude for the littlest things and when the thoughts of losing my home come up, I choose to let them go as fear is not where I want to go and that I know if I follow my inner guidance, I will be shown the next step. I know I have written a lot here but felt inspired to do so from your post. We are all here for the same reason; to rise above fear and negative thinking and to raise our consciosness and to extend love and compassion to everyone here as we are all in different stages of learning and being kind to one another in spite of not agreeing with some things, is what this forum is all about. I love being here. It has been my salvation and my growth. I know what is going on and what is truth here for me...so yes, I do have gratitude and always have. Just now and then I get antsy thinking of losing my home but then I have lost so much and risen above it and feel others like you can support me when I post a fear or two. I wake up to real friends here and for that I am soooooo grateful.
Love & Light,
Star
Renne
29th July 2011, 01:34
I'm happy for your amazing experiece, Bill~ I hope one day I can do that, too. But before that, I have to fix my instrument, for millions of lifetimes it‘s blocked, rusted and dumb now, I hope one day I can heal them all.
strevane
3rd August 2011, 17:24
Thanks, Bill,
I actually read this article and The Cry of Gaia first on bill.inelia.com. That's what brought me back to Avalon. I have a wonderful feeling about your work with Inelia. It's exciting! And - I've started using the tools on her website. Those, this forum, and Camelot, are suddenly helping bring into focus things I've been missing for over a decade, and leading me to tools and information elsewhere that are just what I need now.
Carmen
3rd August 2011, 20:57
Thank you Star, for your heartfelt account. Yours seems to have been a particularly difficult and painful journey. I am pleased that you are finding answers, love and support here at the Avalon Forum. People supporting people. I'm sure as you continue with uncovering your deep painful attitudes and releasing, that improvements in your situation will follow. Man, this is not an easy world. It is the school of hard knocks, for sure, but to eventually find that clarity, that peace of mind is somehow worth it. And we know it. I was given a little phrase mantra which I use when my mind spirals into blame and critisizm. It is : Release release release release, allow allow allow allow, forgive forgive forgive forgive! Its simple, but effective.
ghostrider
8th August 2011, 18:09
I've always wondered what that was, I'm drawn to someone, and go to them and look them right in the EYE , right in the pupil, and it's quiet, focused , and time stops for a few seconds but seems like years, then we speak about seemingly nothing and I'm on my way and wonder what was that? It kinda happens on it's own and I rarely pay attention to the process, but wooooeee ! it makes sense now. thank you gotta go , work to do.
Borderscout
8th August 2011, 19:05
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And while I'm at it -- we've just committed to hold a seminar in Sedona, Arizona, on 27-28 August.
Mmmm, what a great post. Marketing 101.
Kirsten Merrild
17th August 2011, 13:59
This revelation is valuable to mankind
I asked; “What is necessary for a group to function as a unity?” I received this revelation: I sit with my group, we are maybe 15 participants. We hold hands and form a circle connecting us to each other via 3 energy circles of white light. One we are sitting upon one runs through our hands and connects our hearts one runs through our temples. After a while a sea of light accumulates in the center of our circle, now we lift our arms up and lean back and a light from above connects with the light in our midst and in a rush, it spread out and around the globe. The voice says: “This is what it takes, for a group to function!”
Love and light
Kirsten
Kirsten Merrild
17th August 2011, 14:07
Thanks Bill
I know what you are talking about, and I would like to share this.
This revelation is valuable to mankind
I asked; “What is necessary for a group to function as a unity?” I received this revelation: I sit with my group, we are maybe 15 participants. We hold hands and form a circle connecting us to each other via 3 energy circles of white light. One we are sitting upon one runs through our hands and connects our hearts one runs through our temples. After a while a sea of light accumulates in the center of our circle, now we lift our arms up and lean back and a light from above connects with the light in our midst and in a rush, it spread out and around the globe. The voice says: “This is what it takes, for a group to function!”
Love and light
Kirsten
Kirsten Merrild
17th August 2011, 14:11
Thought I had answered on your side Bill, but since I could not see my bulletin, I wrote it again and then I discovered that it was transferred to this page. I do not understand right, but ok :o
Mother
17th August 2011, 18:24
Hey there, dear friends!
Guys, I just received this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC27DSSMryI
from our good friend Jackeline, who were with us at Vilcabamba, altough she didn´t join us here in Avalon. I´m also studying Inelia´s Ascension course...it´s getting more and more confuse to "resonate"...I would love to hear your oppinion on the video..please take a time, ok?
Tks!
Ai-u-que
17th August 2011, 19:20
Excellent post! Thank you so much for sharing.
Gracy
1st December 2019, 18:22
Or:
So you want to transform the world?
Well… here’s one way you can do it.
Dear Friends: this may be the one of the most important posts you have ever encountered. Read carefully – maybe several times.
The best place to start is with these words from Inelia’s first video interview (http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/inelia_benz_3-10-11_en.html) with myself.
Bill: You may have cured her or healed her or stopped her from killing herself or resolved a problem or something. But what is that process? How does it work? How can you explain this? How can you explain what’s happening?
Inelia: The best way to describe it would be that my focus goes to her. And I am there 110 percent in every dimension, in every time-space for that moment. That’s how I can... But I don’t do anything, I don’t have any intention. I don’t have any attachment to outcome. I don’t have any curiosity. Nothing. It’s just complete focus. And what appears to happen is, then there’s something else – whatever it is, the Divine force, energy, chi, whatever – comes through and directly into her to resolve and do whatever, that I have no idea what it is. And then it’s done.
Like many others, I marveled at Inelia’s description of the work that she has done since she was a small child: as a transformational instrument of something far larger and greater than her human persona. She would regularly receive ‘directions’ from a clearly benevolent higher source about where to place what she calls her ‘focus’. And then some kind of magic would occur.
And, as she describes, that’s all she did – thousands of times over the years on ‘targets’ great and small. The effect was always transformational. And Inelia herself is at pains to stress that she herself did nothing. It was something far greater than anything merely human - operating through her like a lens.
In many private conversations, I quizzed her about this process. What did she do? What did the experience feel like? How did she select her targets – or receive the information about where to direct her attention? Who or what was behind all this? What on Earth (or maybe not on Earth at all!) was going on?
Many times in Inelia’s interview, she emphasized that her extraordinary gifts were the birthright of all humans. From her interview again:
Inelia: Anybody who reaches a certain level of awareness can do this stuff. It’s part of the human toolkit. It’s not something that I brought in from outside. This is all wired into every human being. And this is part of the human tool kits that are being oppressed, suppressed and invalidated in everybody. And people are taught that they don’t exist, taught that they’re not able to do these things.
These words were encouraging to hear. But like thousands of other viewers of the video, I thought: Well, that’s for someone else to be able to do. Not me.
How wrong I was. Let me share what happened a couple of days ago.
Inelia and I had just published our first major joint article: The Cry of Gaia (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23176-The-Cry-of-Gaia). If you’ve not read this, it’s recommended. It describes the Crie de Coeur of Gaia herself, the archetypal Goddess-Guardian of the Earth and all living things who call the Earth their home. As I explain in the article, I had a profound experience that showed me directly that this magnificent entity was very real, and not just a handy ecological metaphor.
Although immensely strong and certain to way outlive all transient human activity, Gaia is under pressure: the human race is out of all balance, collectively grossly unaware and irresponsible even if only because of our unthinking passive agreement about what is going on around us. And a minority of humans – if humans they are – are bent on destruction of all that is beautiful and good. As Inelia says:
Inelia: There was a big call from the planet as an entity, and light beings within the planet, saying “Help! To do this we need help.”
And that call went out, and it wasn’t just a planetary call. It was also from other beings around in the galaxy which will be affected by what happens on the planet, maybe not today, but maybe in a million years, and that call was HUGE. A huge call from sentient consciousness, for some sort of intervention on the planet to allow it – in this timeline – to make the shift that it’s supposed to make and which is trying to be stopped by the negativity.
So, it was a huge call. And that’s why beings like myself can come into time-space and do this – because it’s a response to that call.
I’d inserted some images to illustrate the article. One poignant image was this one – a real photograph, despite its surreal quality – taken in Nigeria by National Geographic photojournalist Ed Kashi, whom I interviewed last year:
http://projectavalon.net/Niger_2.jpg
Of all the images I have ever seen, this one surely encapsulates the problem of the ruin of the planet: a despairing, dignified human - still somehow, almost hopelessly, trying to make things work against an apocalyptic backdrop, a wasteland of polluted destruction.
I gazed at this awful scene, wondering just what it would take to fix this. It’s a solvable problem: there do exist people who have the power and the resources to fix these issues with a stroke of their pen, with the click of their fingers.
And suddenly, my focus – this is the only way I can put it – swung round like a compass needle. It settled – like a magnet – on an individual who I could (but will not) describe. I could see him in my mind’s eye. I saw his face, and what he was wearing. A powerful person, but a human person, indeed with the resources to heal these atrocities. I gazed at him… suddenly totally aware what was happening.
In the background ran the human thought in my mind: “This is what Inelia was describing. I’m experiencing this now myself. My God, this is flowing through me too.”
And all I was doing was gazing at the wall of my room. But I was looking at him intently. There was no judgment, no intention, no attachment. Again, as Inelia describes:
Inelia: And I sat next to him. And I just looked. I was just looking at him and he was looking at me. And I had no agenda. I didn’t know what was going to happen or anything. I was just sitting with him.
I became aware of a gradually increasing energy flowing through me from behind and above me, through me, towards my ‘target’. And meanwhile, I was doing nothing at all. I was just pointing my attention at him – or, to exact, I was allowing my attention to be directed at this person.
I was clear, as it was occurring, that my human attention was functioning as a vehicle for something that was entirely different from anything I’d ever experienced before. A part of me was marveling: while another part of me was quietly dispassionate, calm, still, focused, adding nothing at all to what was happening.
I held my focus for ten minutes (I’d noted the time when it started). It was the easiest thing in the world. There was nothing to do. And that sentence is the key.
I was being steered, guided, was allowing myself to be an instrument for some kind of process far greater than myself. It was a kind of surrender, a symbiosis with a greater power. The only thing was what not to do: not to get in the way.
It was crystal clear that what was necessary for this to work was the removal of all ‘normal’ human additives – intention, attachment, judgment, ego, even any sense that what has happening was in some way important. The mystics, meditators and students of esoteric practices reading this may understand immediately. For the rest of you, my purpose in writing this article is to assist you in reaching the point where you too can experience this.
It was a profound simplicity. We complex humans often do not allow ourselves to be sufficiently simple to do what is needed all around us.
And that is my story. I do not know the man’s name. But I know his position and his potential influence. I will have no immediate way of knowing whether this had a real-world effect. But I feel certain that it did.
After those initial ten minutes, I checked with Inelia – realizing that I could place the everyday human component of my attention on to other activities while the process ran in the background. I described what I was experiencing, and she confirmed that I was duplicating her experience. I also checked my intuition that I could indeed get on with everyday matters, and did not have to stay up all night gazing at the wall.
Laughing, Inelia confirmed that I could indeed ‘let it run’ – and that the process might last minutes, hours, days, weeks, or months. She told me that I would know when it was complete.
The process continued – and I was not sure whether it was complete or not. It’s like I was waiting for some kind of signal, as when the toaster pops up its toast when it’s exactly ready. Nothing seemed to happen, and I wondered if I’d missed something. I even wondered if my process might differ from Inelia’s in some way.
But when I woke up this morning – nearly 36 hours after it all started – I realized fully that it was complete. I just knew – exactly as Inelia described that I would.
And, soon after, I had two similar experiences following that one. Inelia had explained to me that these could run in parallel with one another with no problem, no overlap, and no stress. That seemed hard to imagine, but about 40 minutes after the start of the initial experience, I locked onto another target of another kind entirely (a human who had died and whom I knew to be suffering greatly). I focused on his spirit, which I could perceive clearly, with detachment and yet with great compassion. That process also was over by the time I woke up this morning.
And finally, I had a ‘small one’ – my third in a day and a half – which Inelia confirmed often happens with her: it was suddenly there this morning, and came and went rapidly: it lasted for maybe two minutes. The effect was subtle, but distinct, and I recognized what was occurring. Inelia said, simply: “Yes, some can be very quick.”
And there we have it. It’s not a complicated story. To the contrary, it’s all so simple. But it seemed important that I share my experience. Here’s the significance:
Inelia, and certainly many others of her kind, have been doing this work, quietly and without fuss, for years. The result is as Inelia describes:
Bill: And... and restoring free will and self determinism to the citizens of the planet – how far on track are we? Can we measure this? Are we doing well?
Inelia: We are doing EXTREMELY well. Way beyond any expectations and also, its wide open right now. It’s wide open. There are no limits to how much can be accomplished.
Bill: So it’s wide open in terms of the degree of positive potential?
Inelia: Yes.
But it’s not over yet. We can’t relax. There are hundreds of people already doing this work; we may never know their names. But we need thousands. Tens of thousands. And more.
This is where you can play your part. For some of you reading this, this is what you came here to do. It might just be that reading this post may be the tipping point to enable you to start your mission.
Remember: Profound Simplicity. Get your human intentions, attachment, judgment, ego, and even curiosity right out of the way. If you have thoughts or emotions, acknowledge them and let them move on. And let the magnetic compass needle of your attention swing freely to locate its target.
You will have no control over what, when, or even why. Surrender to whatever is operating through you and allow yourself to be a clear lens whose only function is to point in a particular direction.
Then let a Power that is far greater than yours, or mine, do all the rest.
Bill Ryan
20 June, 2011
A blast from the past here, and, also a very powerful one at that. A side hobby of mine is looking through old threads here at Avalon, it gives a lot of insight into how the forum has changed over the years, how popular subjects have evolved (or devolved depending on ones perspective)
Another part of it is being introduced to old members who don't post any more but, at the same time its like meeting old friends that I never knew. So many faces lost to time, it's kind of like looking down my family tree..
I recommend ducking into the time capsules available here every now and than.
Anywhere there are two reasons for actually commenting on this one subject rather than to move silently on to other material. See Bill, this thread was so powerful for me because what Inelia, and then you also describe, I've seen over the course of my whole life, except I never knew what was happening when I see these people that just pop in out of nowhere, nor have I known what to do with it.
Sometimes it just takes a slight nudge from a fellow pathwalker to make a breakthrough, so, thank you for that now I know what to do with it!
Do you still do this Bill? I kept waiting with baited breath to see the progression of this, I never saw anything else from you after a second post the same day, and the thread ended without fanfare barely 2 months later. I was sad lol!
Some other member could do this as well it seems, I just wish they were still active to comment on how this went for them on down the road as well...
One other aspect of this hit me straight between the eyes and, if anyone else has their own insights, I would love to hear it.
Questions like this one from "Heartsong" popped up.
From Original Post:
Bill, is it possible that the less enlightened or those of the "dark side" could also do this but have negative results? Is there any danger to the practice of complete surrender to an unknown force?
Again I bring up this question. What happens when people with different perspectives - say, Service to self- use this practice to act as a conduit for this energy that flows? What happens when the truly evil use this technique?
The following from "astrid" looked to be the best explained response, and they all were along similar lines.
Think it terms of different levels of vibration.
Like attract like.
Those of a lower vibrational construct, if came into contact with the sorts of energy we are discussing, would be transformed.
They don't get to wield this type of refined energy as its not on their "bandwidth".
As we know they have their own ideas of how to gain power,
but its through milking it of others, it's not from source.
- Well, actually that's not strickly correct as everything is from source,
but they can't take it directly, they need it to be filtered.
Energy from source, never runs out.
The technique is one aspect, but it's the quality, the refined level of vibration,
energy, that is flowing through us the vessels,
that is doing the "work" .
I hope this makes sense.
My intuition immediately told me that no, it's not so clear cut as that, there really could be a negative aspect to this same as anything else. Perhaps the one with bad intentions cant tap into Source energy like one with good intentions can, but, I can see the Source energy being redirected towards a negative result if the one with good intentions is not very very strong, and being attentive to the possibility.
As a matter of fact I'm almost certain this can, and does, happen.
Thoughts?
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