UFO Secrets of the Third Reich

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-8zIfeRJmI&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EGALSoKKT4&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3NGh9KMHpM&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a3dLl-uDRk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3vtzOVLVBo&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQRgXNr4xgs&NR=1

[MariaDine]

http://books.google.com/books?id=fHZStF5WgTEC&pg=PA144&dq=UFO+Secrets+of+the+Third+Reich&hl=pt-PT&ei=TSoBTvHjLMuFhQfxnIS8DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=book-preview-link&resnum=2&ved=0CDEQuwUwAQ#v=onepage&q=UFO%20Secrets%20of%20the%20Third%20Reich&f=false

Namasté

[observer]

Just to add a certain audio segue to this comment....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNWpZ-Y_KvU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNWpZ-Y_KvU

For the members looking for an in-depth understanding of what Maria is referencing in the Opening Post, I might suggest the following research links:

Jim Marrs:
Marrs, Jim - Rise of the Forth Reich -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2v0cu8pQOc

Marrs, Jim - "Rule By Secrecy" -
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_rulebysecrecy.htm
(Part 2 of this book is of particular relevance to this thread)

Peter Levenda:
Levenda, Peter - Project Camelot Interview - "Sinister Forces" -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVFsOIApNzU

Dr. Joseph Farrell:
Farrell, Joseph P.: Project Camelot Interview - Advanced Nazi Research, The Riese Project -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wJboIFKCFU

Farrell, Joseph P. - "Reich of the Black Sun" -
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/reichblacksun/contents.htm#Contents

[heyokah]

Thank you observer for this incredibly influential piece of epic orchestral art.


3IRagx-zJQo

http://youtu.be/3IRagx-zJQo

O Fortuna – (Carmina Burana - part one– composed by Carl Orff)
Written in the 1930s, this is an incredibly powerful piece of music, and so thought the Nazis !

English translation


Fortune - Empress of the world

O Fortune,
like the moon
you are changeable,
ever waxing
and waning;
hateful life
first oppresses
and then soothes
as fancy takes it;
poverty
and power
it melts them like ice.

Fate – monstrous
and empty,
you whirling wheel,
you are malevolent,
well-being is vain
and always fades to nothing,
shadowed
and veiled
you plague me too;
now through the game
I bring my bare back
to your villainy.

Fate is against me
in health
and virtue,
driven on
and weighted down,
always enslaved.
So at this hour
without delay
pluck the vibrating strings;
since Fate
strikes down the strong man,
everyone weep with me!

Sorry Maria, a bit off topic I guess, but couldn't resist.... Forgive me ;-)

[observer]

Sorry Maria, this comment is a bit off-topic, too.

WOW heyokah !!!

That's incredibly synchronistic.

I was going to add the words to "O Fortuna" to my comment (#3), but thought it would be too much of a distraction to the important links that I did post. I even went online and found the English translation. I searched for some time for the one single video that had the Latin lyrics printed.

Then, just under my comment, you added the words !!!

If one searches for the understanding of the cantata Carmina Burana, one will discover how important this opera was to the Nazi ideology. (from which 'O Fortuna' is taken) They even played 'O Fortuna' at most of their important propaganda rallies.

Does the fact that 'O Fortuna' was so important to the Nazi ideology, and the fact that it is still used as a soundtrack in apocalyptic theme presentations cause any concern to the members?

Can anybody say, 'Mind Control'?

[Andrew]

I have learnt so much in the last month or so, its unbelievable. Nazi internationals (as J P Farrel calls it). Wow the rabbit hole! the truth was always out there :)

[MariaDine]

Sorry Maria, this comment is a bit off-topic, too.

WOW heyokah !!!

That's incredibly synchronistic.

I was going to add the words to "O Fortuna" to my comment (#3), but thought it would be too much of a distraction to the important links that I did post. I even went online and found the English translation. I searched for some time for the one single video that had the Latin lyrics printed.

Then, just under my comment, you added the words !!!

If one searches for the understanding of the cantata Carmina Burana, one will discover how important this opera was to the Nazi ideology. (from which 'O Fortuna' is taken) They even played 'O Fortuna' at most of their important propaganda rallies.

Does the fact that 'O Fortuna' was so important to the Nazi ideology, and the fact that it is still used as a soundtrack in apocalyptic theme presentations cause any concern to the members?

Can anybody say, 'Mind Control'?

LOL...You can coment all you want in my threads ... That's what this is all about...:)
Love
MariaD

I'm sorry I can't be here at the same time you guys are...you know i'ts 6 to 9 hours diference between Portugal and USA ? :)

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP_CSQgBPpQ

The verses were found in an monastery, if I remember well, and then Carl Orff made the msic. The subject of reencarnation is masked by the turnning of the (karma) medieval wheel, also, a reference to the budist teachings of the law of Darma and the Law of Karma.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MCYBcy9WcNg/TIl8EU7gF0I/AAAAAAAAENE/76fGxHl0w4c/s1600/stdenis_rosacea.jpg

Not to mencion the reference also, to sacred geometry and the properties of healing with geometric «simbols« the pitagoric mysteries...and the properties of healing with color rays of light.
(and sound healing too).


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Q-a2TnFe2yo/SfdSC2NCOqI/AAAAAAAAAKw/1eYHjUDFaEE/s400/wheel_of_fortune_Hortus_Deliciarum.jpg.jpeg

Wheel of Fortune, in Hortus Deliciarum

[heyokah]

Thanks, MariaD, one more off-topic comment then ;-)

Some background about the Carmina Burana.

A large, extraordinary collection of medieval poetry came to light in 1803 at the southern Bavarian monastery of Benediktbeuern, after it was secularized during the French Revolution.
This collection of 320 poems, known as Carmina Burana or "Songs of Benediktbeuern,"dates back to about AD 1230, and includes four basic categories of poems.
These are satirical or moralizing lyrics (carmina moralia); songs celebrating springtime and love (carmina veris et amoris); gambling and drinking songs (carmina lusorum et potatorum), including goliardic verse; and poems with religious content (carmina divina).

This collection of lyric poetry was first published in 1847 as the Codex Buranus by the librarian Andreas Schmeller.
The Codex Buranus contains eight colored miniatures of considerable interest.
The miniature inserted at the beginning of the manuscript portrays Fortuna, the Roman Goddesss of fate.

http://i55.tinypic.com/md2m1k.jpg

Fortuna, seated within the wheel of fortune, wearing a crown and ermine mantle .
Around the wheel is shown the stages of the rise and fall of a sovereign.
At first he surmounts the wheel, but as it turns, he eventually falls to the ground beneath its spokes, symbolizing the impermanence of power and the vicissitudes of fate.

http://www.athenapub.com/14carmina.htm

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I add :

Secret of the White Rose

Carl Orff's famous Carmina Burana has an ugly history: it was a Nazi favourite.
But a new film reveals that the composer's own story was even uglier.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jan/02/classical-music-film-carmina-burana

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[KosmicKat]

And has anybody else noted that the frame of the illumination in post 9 above is an inverted cross?

[heyokah]

It could be the Cross of St Peter.
That is an inverted Latin cross traditionally used as a Christian symbol.
But in recent times also used as an anti-Christ symbol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_St._Peter

It has also often become associated with Satanic and anti-religious attitudes, as it is considered to represent the opposite of Christianity by inverting its primary symbol, the Latin Cross.
As a result, this symbol has become very popular within anti-religion groups and among some extreme metal musicians, notably black metal ones.
In popular culture, including films such as Rosemary's Baby, Exorcist: The Beginning and The Omen, Petrine Crosses are often displayed to represent Satan.

Coincidental with this Satanic imagery, not only is Saint Peter the source of the inverted cross symbolism in Christianity, but Jesus once referred to Peter as "Satan", when he said to him "Get behind me, Satan! You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.", in Mark 8:33 (see vade retro satana).

see Wiki