Jordan Maxwell: Close Encounters and other stories

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, Folks:

This is not so much an interview with Jordan Maxwell, but my pointing the camera at him while he told two hours of quite astonishing personal stories.

Several of these stories are REALLY astonishing - by any standards. They feature ETs, UFOs, and what could loosely be termed the paranormal (very paranormal!).

I don't know anyone, anywhere, who has had as many high-strangeness experiences as Jordan has had. He's had others, too, which we didn't have time to record.

I've heard all these accounts before, off-record, and I was more than delighted when Jordan, fresh back from the Vatican, sat down and agreed to go on camera with this material. Enjoy and be amazed. :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4QLBDEKB1ZM

Cheers, Bill

[HORIZONS]

Thanks Bill! I enjoy a good yarn :-)

[bluestflame]

good to compare notes

[Ailée]

Thank you Bill, and deep appreciation to Jordan for going on record with his experiences :-)

[karelia]

Thank you for all three interviews (DI alone, then DI and JM together over dinner, and then JM alone). It made me feel very fond of all three of you, as if I've known you all forever. Yes, the subjects are scare-inducing, but the way they were presented left me seriously feeling good, and I think that's what's important in this day and age. I know I'll watch again and again and again, just to make sure I didn't miss anything. Thanks again, Bill!

[Jake]

I often wonder how knowledgeable JM REALLY is! It amazes me to observe Jordan waxing philosophically. He doesn't seem to have a presentation prepared, yet he can go on and on, speaking passionately and gracefully. You can sure tell when someone is speaking from the heart, and from there own experience! I can't wait for more!!!

[lightblue]

really not impressed with his agreeing to be monitored/looked after...in his place, i'd fight tooth and nail against the intruders...being "selected" is a perilous state...i'd want to select my own aliances... besides, it's so passe...prophets and such like aren't needed any more...
top marks for sincereity, but i haven't learned a thing, except about him personally...not so interested... he's a charming man though...:yu: l

[karelia]

really not impressed with his agreeing to be monitored/looked after...in his place, i'd fight tooth and nail against the intruders...being "selected" is a perilous state...i'd want to select my own aliances... besides, it's so passe...prophets and such like aren't needed any more...
top marks for sincereity, but i haven't learned a thing, except about him personally...not so interested... he's a charming man though...:yu: l

Personally, I think it's more a matter of how he sees it. I have no doubt there is no coercion involved. I mean, look at him, watch the way he talks! It's coercion-free. The way I see it is that he agreed to do what he does before he incarnated, and because he knew he needed help at points, he agreed to that as well. He did indeed select his own alliances, but he doesn't remember in the conscious.

[Daft Ada]

Just finished watching this. I love to listen to Jordan, he has a lovely manner about him, very relaxed and comfortable to be with. He certainly has some stories to tell, some of which seem too far fetched to be true, but then the truth is often stranger than fiction and I can see nothing to be gained by him for not telling the truth, other than attention of course. But I just don't see Jordan as that kind of person.
Thoroughly enjoyed it Bill, thanks mate. Any news on the Nazi Bell? I have been looking forward to that for some time?

[TheChosen]

There you go.. and this is just ETs of 4th density abilities (maybe lower 5) .. you can let your imagination run wild as to what happens in the higher ones :)).. Great interview with good points

[Jake]

I often wonderd what kind of person would have the courage to embrace the 'high strangeness' in there lives, especially to this degree. I am inspired by Jordan. I think that people really need to start wrapping there brain around the concept of contact. What if contactees were to suddenly come out in mass numbers? Better yet, what if you were to suddenly realize that you were a contactee?

[blue777]

JORDAN IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH, but is limited in knowing all the truth and reality when Ascension takes place.......the meaning of life is putting the jig-saw together
lol

[Wookie]

In a recent radio interview http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=38716&viewfull=1#post38716 Jordan Maxwell states that he is releasing his research material for download on his website. He aslo talks about forming a research group. I dont think i could keep up with the amount of research Jordan has done, but would like to sit in and learn. I'm excited to have a look at his source files :) I really like the way Jordan Maxwell dissects the world to find meaning, there is a very classical aproach to his thought process.

Peaceful Journeys. Wookie

[jimmer]

that is one fascinating interview.
jordan seems so nonchalant as he weaves some of
top-of-the-head lifting events I've heard.
wish he'd carry a camera.
this guy did...
(sorry, off topic, but pretty cool, nonetheless)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBUv4j3DINE

[hyundisonata]

Hey he must have been on growth hormone in his old age lol .don’t be daft. Both different heights lol. No wonder ET is debunked when people post such as this as serious. Ok I am blunt and to the point because I live in the real world based on my own experiences. And I do not accept such easily even though I myself have stepped outside reality. My big problem with people like Jordan is that it’s a business to them. Its buy this book or film ECT. Money, money, money. Yip I am one of those strange people who believe all information should be given freely without claim to fame or monetary gain.

[Dale]

My big problem with people like Jordan is that it’s a business to them. Its buy this book or film ECT. Money, money, money. Yip I am one of those strange people who believe all information should be given freely without claim to fame or monetary gain.

Let me add to this thought a minute.

People like Jordan Maxwell who pursue esoteric knowledge have no other way of receiving funding than by selling some form product, normally related to their research specialty. Esoteric researchers typically aren't funded by colleges, universities, or other scholarly groups; so the only way they can make a decent living is by writing books, making videos, or giving speeches related to their line of thinking.

Now, I'm entirely disenchanted with certain "researchers" out there who charge unreasonable amounts of money for their "services," or lack there-of, but that would be an entirely different conversation.

[Bill Ryan]

My big problem with people like Jordan is that it’s a business to them. Its buy this book or film ECT. Money, money, money. Yip I am one of those strange people who believe all information should be given freely without claim to fame or monetary gain.

Then sit and listen to this. The first time I met Jordan was in 2008 with Kerry. He had been living for years in a dingy, dark, two-room apartment above a shop, with his sick brother who he was caring for, doubling as his office.

Jordan had no bedroom, and he slept on a mattress on the floor. He had no money at all, and has had none for many years. Kerry and I have done what we can to help him out.

Now I look forward to reading your reply.

[shiva777]

maybe he isn't very clever with money (most likely he isn't)and his karma has caught up with him...his current situation means very little...wether he is rich or poor,in it for the money or not...doesn't matter...the material he presents should be discerned by each for what it is...some people seem to think if someone is poor they are "holy" or righteous,or if someone is rich they are dishonest or greedy...get over it...until people get neutral around money issues they will remain slaves to money

there are many conspiracy theorists,researchers,whistleblowers etc out there that dedicate their whole lives to uncovering the truth and live in poverty doing so,meanwhile they are spreading complete BS...there are others making enough money to live VERY free and luxurious lives with lots of money spreading info that empowers people by spreading workable truths...should people who work hard ,who are TRULY empowering people and freeing people not be allowed to live by the beach in a Villa,snorting the occassional line of high grade Cocaine and meditating in a gold geodesic dome....then jumping on their yacht and sailing off to the bahamas for some more expensive but enjoyable pursuits...
some people are just bad with money,others have bad karma around money,others are good with money and have good karma around money...and on it goes...don't simplify things so much

[Bill Ryan]

that is one fascinating interview.
jordan seems so nonchalant as he weaves some of
top-of-the-head lifting events I've heard.
wish he'd carry a camera.
this guy did...
(sorry, off topic, but pretty cool, nonetheless)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBUv4j3DINE

Hi there - this is a faked promotional video for an insurance company.

(Sorry! :) )

[THIRDEYE]

hello again bill...when is the vatican city and europe tour that you and jordan took be produced.....love light and abundance thirdeye.....

[Dale]

Then sit and listen to this. The first time I met Jordan was in 2008 with Kerry. He had been living for years in a dingy, dark, two-room apartment above a shop, with his sick brother who he was caring for, doubling as his office.

Jordan had no bedroom, and he slept on a mattress on the floor. He had no money at all, and has had none for many years. Kerry and I have done what we can to help him out.

Now I look forward to reading your reply.

Very well said, Bill. Jordan is a brilliant researcher, and in my personal case, his research lead me to where I am today - a very long while ago. I'm sure many people can say the same. I'm very privileged to have been given the opportunity to meet and interview Jordan this upcoming spring, and as you all might assume, I could write a book filled with questions I'd like to ask him.


maybe he isn't very clever with money (most likely he isn't)and his karma has caught up with him...

I'm not sure I understand your statement? Jordan doesn't make a good deal of money, and he certainly isn't in "this field" to lie, make it big, or anything else. He's just doing what he came here to do, much like the rest of us.

I don't mean to sound preachy, I just hold a good deal of respect for the man.

[Carmody]

.don't simplify things so much

Perhaps...'don't identify with your ego position so much?'

One thing I've learned in being on the net for a longer time than the net has existed is.....that you can't please everyone.

Another thing I came up with as a bit of a line that stopped a friend cold one day...was "Judgment? Judgment is a fools game, it freezes all further development and anchors one in the self lies of their own past."

[hyundisonata]

Wow throw me in at the deep end Bill I normally just post my tupence worth and leave it at that. Ok my statement was not worded very well and no offence was intended at the time to Mr. Pine. My interest is ET not occultism but it seems the gauntlet has been thrown so I will take up the challenge. Yes I have a hang up about money, this and religion and as far as I am concerned is the root of all evil. Ok if people want to make money from such as ET then that’s fair enough and I have nothing against them doing so as long as it’s the truth. Now lets see if this site is what I hope it to be, and that is honest, moralistically sound and open to free speech.

I do not know Mr. Pine (Maxwell) or his present social standing but what I can gather he has written several articles, books and videos and no doubt made a lot of money from doing so from early nineties to present date. What he has done with it I do not know or care. But the fact is he has and no doubt will have a lot more coming. So sorry the bleeding heart statement does not wash with me Bill yes I understand your loyalty to a friend, again personal choice. As for the man. Again as stated I do not personally know him so I have to establish my description of him from his work. I do not like what he has written; he comes across as an egotistic maniac.

[Edited to remove comments of a personal attack nature, which we insist people keep out of their "debates". Refute the info, but leave personal comments about the person out of it, please]

... he constantly attacks others religion then promotes his own .in fact he gives the impression he believes he is his gods right hand man and should be ruling the world. Yip reminds me of several people now and in history. I can clearly see him happily sharing cocktails with the elite. He also is a master at twisting words to suit his purpose , after watching several of his videos you can clearly see he has done little research and copies others work again to suit his purpose.

This video I found that debunks Mr. Pine explains this fact quite well.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1155202722043130535#
Ok you no doubt won’t like it as it is a skeptical outlook. But being someone who believes in ET and yes life after death, ghosts and entities I found it quite informative and the words used are Mr. pines own statements..

I am sorry if people do not like what I have written, so be it. I think freely and do not allow myself to be swayed by any organization no mater what title it carries. This is my right and my choice to do so. To say or do other wise lowers me to the same level as those I oppose such as new world order or certain cults and of course religion. This is why I am against such as those just out to line their pockets with gold. I stick to what I know and personal experience .just no sensationalism i.e. as far as I am concerned ET is flesh and bone as we are ,ok that is bland compared to the liking them to angels and gods ect but that is how they presented themselves to me. Shortly time will reveal the truth and the scammers will disappear into the wood work faceless people. As stated I apologise for any upset but I will not be bullied into acceptance at all.

[Bill Ryan]

Yes I have a hang up about money

Yes, you do.


Now lets see if this site is what I hope it to be, and that is honest, moralistically sound and open to free speech.

It's open to free speech, but not to uninformed trolling that denigrates other researchers. If your criticisms are INFORMED, then let's hear them.

The reason for this is that this is a forum where members learn from one another. Not one where people rant unintelligently and showcase their prejudices. In doing that, whatever your intentions, you're not helping the world become a better place.


he has written several articles, books and videos and no doubt made a lot of money from doing so

How do you know this?

I reported to you accurately what I (and many others) saw with our own eyes - and which Jordan has many times described in interviews. Believe me, he has almost nothing. Anyone who knows him will confirm this.

Yet, having heard this, you seem to be so set in your opinion that you then insist that he must have earned a lot of money - and somehow lost it.

All of which is irrelevant anyway. Others here (including myself) may have earned quite a lot of money in the past and then lost it for one reason or another. That's hardly a crime or a sin.

But - having heard Jordan's recent circumstances, you STILL criticize him selling DVDs to try to pay the bills. Why do you do that? I look forward to your answer about this as well.


I will not be bullied into acceptance at all.

No bullying. Just Socrates in the marketplace doing his thing. I guess he gave one or two people a hard time sometimes, too.

By the way, the 'time traveler' video was a promotion made by a life insurance company. I guess you didn't read my post about that, further down the page from yours.

[Fredkc]

I will not be bullied into acceptance at all.

You need not accept anything, except for a few simple rules about civilized debate.
Hence the edit,
Fred

[Steven]

This video I found that debunks Mr. Pine explains this fact quite well.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1155202722043130535#

This video is made by Chris White. We know him at Avalon as he was a member of Avalon 1. He came to promote his view http://nowheretorun.podomatic.com/ Which is fundamentalist christian view. And debunk everyone who says some truth about the church in her worse dresses.

He did not only debunk Jordan Maxwell, but many many more, including the mayans ;). The guy is in a crusade. He is not interested in the truth, he is defending his belief system.

Do you know the truth?

Namaste, Steven

[tcjim1]

I personally appreciate Jordan's years of experience and research. And I find his experiences that he shares fascinating. I thank Jordan for exposing the Vatican.
Having been brought up in the Christian faith and Church, I was taught not to question.. but to just believe and live by faith.
I started to have a lot of questions about God and faith itself and just so much didn't make since. I started to do my own research and found Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Michael Tellinger and many others who were not afraid to face redicule and mockery.
Now I realize that the true God of this universe is someone that doesn't want us to live by fear that if we don't believe a certain way we will go to hell. Why would a god of love want his creation to "suffer for eternity"? It just don't make sense. Search your soul with an open mind and you will find the answer.
He has so much more for his creation and he is a God of love and he wants us to live with loving spirits and to help and serve mankind.

[Lost Soul]

Thank you Jordan Maxwell and Bill.

[Seikou-Kishi]

I understand that the video was not an interview as such and that it flowed organically and without a predefined structure, and so it's possible the issue I am highlighting is simply a flippant/off-the-cuff comment, but I noticed Jordan Maxwell linked divinity to alcohol, saying that 'divine' came from 'the vine', as though a simple pronunciation problem. 'Vine' and 'wine' are certainly related, etymologically, but as for 'divine', we have to look at the 'unbound morpheme' in the word:

Divine is a combination of an unbound/semantic morpheme div- and a bound or functional morpheme -ine. The -ine is found in many words, such as 'equine' and has nothing to do with the meaning of the word, it creates a word related to the original word: equine meaning "of or pertaining to horses" the way divine means "of or pertaining to x", x being the divus and diva, Latin words for god and goddess, usually as part of the imperial cult, and also deus and dea as general terms for god and goddess. The term also relates to the Greek Zeus and the Old English Tiw (whence the 'tues' in 'Tuesday'). The 'n' in 'vine' and 'wine', however, is an integral part of the word, not a suffix tacked onto the end.

This true etymology, however, is perhaps more revealing: in the three different languages I've referenced, the morpheme represents divinity, but it should be noted that this divinity is not the same as holiness; the concept of divine as 'not of this world, superhuman' was a development from the original meaning of the root, which was "shining, bright". This begs the question: what were the ancient cultures of the world exposed to such that they would come to associate this shining quality with 'coming from above', with other-worldliness?

And let's be sure about this: the two gods whose names derive from this root, Tiw/Tyr and Zeus were not sun gods, the most obviously example of 'shining above'...

Tiw/Tyr is best known as a war god, but prior to Odin's usurpation of the position of chief god and god of the sky (he was originally the god of death and magic), Tiw was the god of the sky, while Zeus, the 'cloud gatherer' (reminiscent of UFOs disguising themselves?) was called the 'Father of Gods and Men' (link to the 'nephilim'/genetic engineering of early humans?) and wielded the thunderbolt (radiation expressed in primitive terms?) as a god of the weather.

In both cases, they were gods of the sky who were chief among their pantheon. I think the greater question here is of something shining in the sky which was promoted to god-like status.


I'm sorry I've been very circuitous in getting to the point, but I believe the point is a valid one and I hope I've managed to give something for consideration.

Seikou-Kishi

[Seikou-Kishi]

Believe me, he has almost nothing. Anyone who knows him will confirm this.


Your point is clear to me, that he has nothing in terms of finances, but if all he had was a couple of million in the bank, that is when he'd have almost nothing. As it happens, he has far from nothing when it comes to what really matters, the things that exist beyond considerations of life and death, not the least of which are his dedication and his integrity. I can say it no better than the Hávamál:


Cattle die, kindred die,
Every man is mortal:
But the good name never dies
Of one who has done well.
— Hávamál, verse 76

And by 'doing well', the cynical, hyundisonata among them, will undoubtedly infer 'getting rich', but I prefer to read it as meaning, and I believe the correct meaning is, that the good name never dies of one who has conducted himself well.

In that regard, Jordan Maxwell has more than enough for a dozen people.

[rosie]

The Vatican has too many secrets that one day, will be exposed. As with all power groups, they can't even see the possibility of falling down, as "failure" does not exist in their vocabulary. This, ultimately, will be their demise...that I am sure of.

Did this piece for Jordan, all is not in vain.
in love & light :wub:

http://i55.tinypic.com/j10w89.jpg

[shiva777]

the vatican is the suppressor of the 5th dimensional stargate system...the obelisk in St Peters square marks the point of accumulated dark energy harvested from humanities distorted template and it's resulting karmic creations...that dark reservoir of energy is the MAIN source of the black magic grid operations and that source is being dealt with now by those humans and galactics who have the DNA development allowing transmutation of those energies....the info that Maxwell and so many others have about the vatican is ONLY AT THE EFFECT level of the vaticans actions...it is at the CAUSE level that the TRUE removcal of power of the "vatican" will be done....the rabbit hole goes much deeper than most know...

[jimmer]

Hi there - this is a faked promotional video for an insurance company.

(Sorry! :) )

still off topic: thanks for debunking the 'time traveler' video, bill. just read your statement.
and just viewed it again, with no 'promotional credit' at the end. pretty dishonest.
the insurance co. should be taken to task.