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ktlight
1st July 2011, 08:17
"Uploaded by cveitch on Jun 29, 2011
My anarchism and libertarian mindset has strengthened.

So I've spent 5 years listening to the conspiratorial view - then I got the opportunity to grill the historical/accidental view of 9/11 proponents.

Where I stand now is that America's defences got caught with their pants around their ankles. I do not think there was high level evil complicity in the events of that day. Yes, I have changed my mind.

To change one's mind when presented with evidence that contradicts one's mind, is to be scientific, logical and rational. The CIA ****ed up. No-one got fired. Condi Rice lied to the commission. Bush and Cheney would not testify under oath. No-one wants to take the blame for the incompetence that killed over 3,000 people.

Evidenced food for thought on 9/11:

March 2001 - Italian intelligence warns of an al Qaeda plot in the United States involving a massive strike involving aircraft, based on their wiretap of al Qaeda cell in Milan.
July 2001 - Jordanian intelligence told US officials that al-Qaeda was planning an attack on American soil, and Egyptian intelligence warned the CIA that 20 al Qaeda Jihadists were in the United States, and that four of them were receiving flight training.
August 2001 - The Israeli Mossad gives the CIA a list of 19 terrorists living in the US and say that they appear to be planning to carry out an attack in the near future.
August 2001 - The United Kingdom is warned three times of an imminent al Qaeda attack in the United States, the third specifying multiple airplane hijackings. According to the Sunday Herald, the report is passed on to President Bush a short time later.
September 2001 - Egyptian intelligence warns American officials that al Qaeda is in the advanced stages of executing a significant operation against an American target, probably within the US.

Honour the truth.
Charlie Veitch"

BEWARE OF TWO LOUD NOISES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezHNdBE5pZc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezHNdBE5pZc&feature=player_embedded

Eric J (Viking)
1st July 2011, 10:00
Hmmmm !!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezHNdBE5pZc&feature=player_embedded

viking

MMA_Fan
1st July 2011, 10:26
Good on him. If he wants to change his mind that is his right.
Those youtube comments are pathetic. The bloke chages his mind and people think it's ok to call him 'slimy'.

BTW it's a 180 not a 360;)

p.s. what's the hmm for?

Eric J (Viking)
1st July 2011, 10:43
My research tell's me that beyond any question the 911 official story sucks!!

As for the you tube comments...hey if your out in the open your gonna get some stick>>>we all do!

My interpretation of 360 is 'a complete turn-around'

As for the 'Hmmm' draw your own conclusions.

viking

Lily de Cuir
1st July 2011, 10:53
I agree with Viking, however....

Hey, we can all change our minds based on information that's presented. New information is presented all the time. Just look at our own scenario here on PA with Bill. New angles, new information presented in a different way. Pays to pay attention.

And yeah if you have a different point of view and stick your neck out, someone's going to give you a sideswipe. Goes with the territory.

Cheers,
Lily de Cuir

dan i el
1st July 2011, 10:57
..and there is no blatant proof of profiteering or prior knowledge and WTC7 just fell because of the "massive" damage sustained to it and the crimping observed as it did was simulacra of a controlled demolition. It all makes sense now.

GK76
1st July 2011, 11:02
My research tell's me that beyond any question the 911 official story sucks!!

As for the you tube comments...hey if your out in the open your gonna get some stick>>>we all do!

My interpretation of 360 is 'a complete turn-around'

As for the 'Hmmm' draw your own conclusions.

viking


I agree with the hmmm. I wonder if someone has had 'a little chat' with him concerning the well-being of his family. He seems to reverse too many thoughts, far too quickly for my liking.

It's all so suspicious. If only he'd ditched the shades to do this, I'd get a clearer idea.

MMA_Fan
1st July 2011, 11:36
If people got off their arses and went round the world with a megaphone trying to wake others people up, then criticism from them might have more justification. Until then the village idiots with their idle gossip think it's ok to defame all and sundry based on what exactly?

dan i el
1st July 2011, 12:03
If people got off their arses and went round the world with a megaphone trying to wake others people up, then criticism from them might have more justification. Until then the village idiots with their idle gossip think it's ok to defame all and sundry based on what exactly?

Just because he is a former banker that blats about with a megaphone being witty and extolling the virtues of anarcho-primitivism to all and sundry that look up to him doesn't necessarily make him deserve any medals AFAICS. no offence but my mate Alex (not Jones)was on the megaphone years before doing the same (aside from the wahey let's watch it all burn angle)with great wit and humour while Charlie was still playing the markets as a neophyte of the system.

I just think it"s a little bit convenient that WTC7 seems to have suddenly slipped his mind in this new rosy scripted video..

Operator
1st July 2011, 12:38
Look, aside from the reflection in his sunglasses you can clearly see that he's filming himself.
So he's operating alone ... (there is my hmmmm)

Not many people have the capacity to operate all alone. He has always worked with a group before and had
someone around to video their activities.

This is no hard evidence of course. But to me it's an indicator he could have been singled out to smoothen the
9/11 case ... They need to do something right ? They can't sit and wait and get overrun by the approaching train.

B.t.w. this has happened before and they always succeed to break up unity in the movement. Other examples are
Dan Burisch who was, at a crucial moment, pro vaccines and e.g. Paul Hellyer who is a staunch believer that global
warming by humans (CO2) is real.

It's all programming ... don't forget that. :p

Eric J (Viking)
1st July 2011, 12:43
Just bumped into this...! Hmmm!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SavpCQlu2GA&feature=share


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feMQ6wpH2Ck


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUSRA4xmzrs

'Ye shall know them by their fruits' !

We'll see...perhaps he's looking at another angle... ;-)

viking

Forevernyt
1st July 2011, 13:40
I think people aren't thinking about this in the bigger picture. Why does it have to one way or another, why can't it be both? If the US was warned of the impending attack, months ahead of time, don't you think that would give them enough time to plan for the terrorist attack and ADD to it? In other words, they hear that planes are going to be flown int the WTC and other buildings including the Pentagon. Well, why not set it up to be even more catastrophic? Use the terrorist actions to their own advantage. They could lose the WTC, but they didn't want to lose the Pentagon so they had to mitigate that attack. If I could think of it, so could they and they have the resources to pull it off.

It's just a thought.

dan i el
1st July 2011, 14:16
Where I stand now is that America's defences got caught with their pants around their ankles. I do not think there was high level evil complicity in the events of that day. Yes, I have changed my mind.

To my mind, this is tacit capitulation. There is so much that he is now conveniently omitting from memory after "5 years of research". What about Mohammed Atta's 2 non combustible passports. pyroclastic flows of concrete can"t even touch them...not to mention insurance scams, Rumfeld"s forgotten missing cash statement, magic airphones, the Venice flying circus etc etc etc..the list is huge..who's joined the circus now? It really reeks to high heaven and insulting to hear that he defends this new deeply suspect position under the pretext of 'science and logicTM' . Same old story. I used to frequent a weird site called concen..there's a professional debunker there too..seemingly using exactly the same script under advisement, using the exactly same arguments and rhetorical appeals and deflecting/ignoring anything straying from them...there"s my hmmmm
Occam's razor has been misused so much it is as blunt as a spoon, same old story.

Next he wears a dress and goes out on the town with David Shayler? A very rum do, indeed. rum and koolaid no doubt.

And now a whirlwind 911 debunking tour no doubt.

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maybe there's hope for CV but it doesn't look promising right now imho

MMA_Fan
1st July 2011, 15:02
I think people aren't thinking about this in the bigger picture. Why does it have to one way or another, why can't it be both? If the US was warned of the impending attack, months ahead of time, don't you think that would give them enough time to plan for the terrorist attack and ADD to it? In other words, they hear that planes are going to be flown int the WTC and other buildings including the Pentagon. Well, why not set it up to be even more catastrophic? Use the terrorist actions to their own advantage. They could lose the WTC, but they didn't want to lose the Pentagon so they had to mitigate that attack. If I could think of it, so could they and they have the resources to pull it off.

It's just a thought.

Agreed.

If the PTB are controlling both sides of the 'conflict' why would they not instigate the attack from the east. Gives plausible deniability (though not very plausible in the case of 9/11).

So in other words, use the extremists to fly the planes and let Dick Chaney give the stand-down order. A lot simpler than planting nano thermite and all the rest of it IMO.

dan i el
1st July 2011, 15:18
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Eric J (Viking)
1st July 2011, 15:35
Thanks Dan

Yes a good reminder if what probably took down the towers...thermite.

I can't believe for one minute that Charlie after all these years researching has changed his tune...this doesn't add up...????

He's either...
1. Being targeted by the ptb and or threatened with family and freinds.

2. He's known all along (works for the ptb) and had gathered a loyal base of truthseekers and is hoping to sway opinions to cover up the 'truth'

3. Or this is not the real Charlie...he's cloned.

We'll get to the bottom of this>>>>

viking

Operator
1st July 2011, 15:40
Duf3mtz98eI

Wow, talking about a hands-on kind of guy ... !

dan i el
1st July 2011, 16:18
too right lol

..i can think of someone who ought to watch that video

jimmer
1st July 2011, 18:28
congratulations, charlie, as you pull away from the charging horde and stand tall as a man.

as for bush and co. being complicate, it was an unarmed, more innocent time.
no previous terrorist attacks. oh, sorry, the first WTC attack was under clinton's watch.
two admins can take responsibility, I guess.

Rocky_Shorz
1st July 2011, 18:46
360 degrees is spinning until you face the same direction... ;)

yiolas
1st July 2011, 19:12
As Viking says, 'something doesnt' add up with Charlie'

What Charlie does not talk about though was how come the 'jet fuel' in the planes vaporized the steal beams of the buildings while pieces of paper were floating all around the area. I feel bad for Charlie.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsvsboAQ6IE&feature=player_embedded

Billy
1st July 2011, 20:21
I think people aren't thinking about this in the bigger picture. Why does it have to one way or another, why can't it be both? If the US was warned of the impending attack, months ahead of time, don't you think that would give them enough time to plan for the terrorist attack and ADD to it? In other words, they hear that planes are going to be flown int the WTC and other buildings including the Pentagon. Well, why not set it up to be even more catastrophic? Use the terrorist actions to their own advantage. They could lose the WTC, but they didn't want to lose the Pentagon so they had to mitigate that attack. If I could think of it, so could they and they have the resources to pull it off.

It's just a thought.

jump on the bandwagon, We will not stop this attack, We need an excuse to go to war, We will reinsure the twin towers and make sure building 7 comes down with them. In fact we will set explosives just to make sure the job is done properly. Money in the bank and we get to go to war. Job done.

thunder24
1st July 2011, 20:38
Movie- "Hidden in plane sight". done by someone, i think named dave von kleist
More then two cents worth

peace

dan i el
1st July 2011, 20:42
360 degrees is spinning until you face the same direction... ;)



true, but in terms of the idiom 'a complete turn-around' it makes total sense. :o

Snowbird
2nd July 2011, 00:06
I'm actually happy for Charlie even though I don't agree with him. He is being allowed to go forward with his life unharmed.

These are my opinions....and I am full of them. :biggrin1:

He has always appeared to me to be a conscious spiritual person. He seems as though he wants to embrace this, void of being harassed. To me, this stands out more than anything. He wants peace, within and without.

After watching these vids and seeing and hearing him for myself, several different scenarios crossed my mind. One, he was arrested in his home country and no one can tell me he and his loved ones were not threatened. It appears that he was offered a deal. What exactly that deal is, I don't know. However, he's about to get married. He needs substantial employment so that they can live comfortably and go forward in life.

He loves New York and is somewhat smitten by the new Freedom towers that are being built. Is it a stretch of the imagination that he may have been offered a lucrative position in those towers for turning a 180 and keeping his mouth shut...or else?

Those who are hurling death threats at him are waayy out of bounds. He has a right to his opinion regardless if it is actually what he believes or not.

He wants peace. He should be allowed his peace.

Normalguy31
2nd July 2011, 00:09
Duf3mtz98eI
That is the hard scientific evidence that I have been arguing to people for years now. Jet fuel does not burn at a high enough temp to melt steel. It's a fact.
Some one has scared our dear friend here.o

dan i el
2nd July 2011, 00:09
congratulations, charlie, as you pull away from the charging horde and stand tall as a man.

as for bush and co. being complicate, it was an unarmed, more innocent time.
no previous terrorist attacks. oh, sorry, the first WTC attack was under clinton's watch.
two admins can take responsibility, I guess.

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Teakai
2nd July 2011, 01:23
Maybe they slipped him a microchip when they took him away on the eve of the royal wedding.

"something just popped in my head" 2:03 on the first of the videos Viking posted. IMO he's definitely been gotten to one way or another.

I too have questioned the legitimacy of conspiracies - but unfortunately evidence is overwhelming in the case of a grand world conspiracy. No one in their right mind, capable of critical thinking and reasoning can take an open minded look and not see that. im right minded, critical and reasoned o :)

yiolas
2nd July 2011, 10:09
Mark Pasio who has a weekly radio show on Oracle Broadcasting called 'What in the World is Happening' has presented an excellent piece of work entitled "The Physics of 9/11" .

With his background in mechanical engineering he explains in plain English why the World Trade Center Towers Could NOt According to the basic Laws of Dynamics, have fallen at the speeds at which they were observed to fall, unless forces other than weight and gravity were at work.

Please listen to episode no 66 (http://www.whatonearthishappening.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=46&Itemid=74)

http://www.whatonearthishappening.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=46&Itemid=74

Trail
2nd July 2011, 11:05
This is scary.. he was one of my hero's..

I agree.. he was either threatened, cloned, programmed, or chipped..

dan i el
2nd July 2011, 12:28
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andrewgreen
2nd July 2011, 12:30
An anarchist working for the BBC is a contradiction in terms.

yiolas
2nd July 2011, 12:31
This is scary.. he was one of my hero's..

I agree.. he was either threatened, cloned, programmed, or chipped..

Hi Trail, Charlie was one of the champions of human freedom and through his many videos urged people to wake up ! and see through the matrix veil and realize their spiritual magnificence. This is the Charle Vietch that I grew to know and love.

Hello Charlie, we love you, if your listening, please come back.

Wiremu2011
2nd July 2011, 12:47
So not only did tower 7 just happen to freefall in 5 secs all by itself (or was it caused by the vibration of the other two..?)Charlie must now also agree that one of the hijackers passports was found intact at the top of the pile... :flypig:

MMA_Fan
2nd July 2011, 13:32
These are all good points. With Charlie meeting these people face to face maybe he didn't prepare questions before hand.
Give him some time people.

dan i el
2nd July 2011, 14:01
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Wiremu2011
2nd July 2011, 14:17
When Danny left this gig, so did the "Shine" of The Love Police. Charlie - with all due respect to you decision, you have a let a lot of people down. Anyone we thought with half a brain could read and see (as well as Blind Freddy...) into the obvious lie that was 911. If that's what you think, then goodbye. You've probably just lost 90% of your audience in 1 week.

dan i el
2nd July 2011, 14:50
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MMA_Fan
2nd July 2011, 15:01
...

So it's a witchhunt now? Classy.
Glad to see there are so many enlightened folk in the alt. community.

dan i el
2nd July 2011, 15:25
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...

So it's a witchhunt now? Classy.
Glad to see there are so many enlightened folk in the alt. community.



no comprende. witchhunt? how so? dont worry i wont report the ad hom. how is it unenlightened to point out how he calls Ian Tomlinson ignorant and stupid ? while now claiming that apparently people who question the official 911 report are "religious cultists' whilst stirring the anti islamic pot? it wouldn't even be so bad if he had some valid arguments. sorry to offend your hero..all so sudden like after a bbc paid for trip coincidentally just after making national headlines and gaining media prominence in the uk. no, you are right it doesn't stink :tape:

MMA_Fan
2nd July 2011, 15:49
He's not my hero.
I rarely watch Charlie but am aware of who he is and what he has done.

He didn't say that anyone who questions the official report are cultists.

As for witchhunt - you are finding material to attack him because he doesn't agree with your POV.

dan i el
2nd July 2011, 16:39
He's not my hero.
I rarely watch Charlie but am aware of who he is and what he has done.

He didn't say that anyone who questions the official report are cultists.

As for witchhunt - you are finding material to attack him because he doesn't agree with your POV.



He said "the conspiracist world view is cultist" and repeatedly in a number of different phrasings.

I will go now and look for his direct quote as the reasons of the Israeli Palestinian conflict. to paraphrase from memory: the problems would stop if the Palestinians just stopped fighting.

It's an ongoing item of interest and I am posting concurrent videos about it, one of which you yourself thanked me for. He is going to be in a BBC tv show where he is going to state how he believed in the "conspiracy view" for years but how now he sees it rationally. The follow up chat with Max Igan is quite enlightening.

CV implores us to use Occam's razor..if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck then it probably is a duck...he is very likely a fame hunter or a sleeper.

note this /// he berates corporations, consumerism and capitalism in general, no? He light heartedly mocks the general public as slaves, no?

He is in downtown New York the heart of consumerist capitalism, times square effusing about how much he loves it there // yes, it makes total sense.

MMA_Fan
2nd July 2011, 18:01
I thanked you because there was some good points covering anomalies in the 9/11 attack in that video you posted. Successive posting of anything deriding him is just picking at bones.
You carry on all you want if you think it's ok to keep throwing mud at people.
I'm done posting in this particular thread and wasting energy on your idle gossip.

dan i el
2nd July 2011, 19:21
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dan i el
2nd July 2011, 20:05
http://www.facebook.com/notes/mel-ve/charlie-veitch-exposed/10150298005277244




It is coming up to two years since Freedom Central started, and what an amazing couple of years it has been. Having made the decision to start an information platform which contains information that does not normally get an airing on main stream media, we have, as expected, come under fire for the contraversial nature of our work at times, and at others, we have out right put our life on the line to provide a free information platform that takes the form of freedomcentral.info.

Indeed, on one occassion after a conference in Brussels in October 2009, we were attacked in our sleep and all our equipment taken. Still, this has not detered us, as we believe that nothing else matters unless we are trying to make the world a better place, and that starts with helping each other, and by raising awareness of what is really going on.



It has never been our intention that Freedom Central become a pedestal for us, nor have we ever seen ourselves as anything other than part of a mass awakening population. On a few occassions, I have posted articles and interviews, which have envoked some pretty hostile responses from those who claim to be “awake” and “aware”. It is because we have been brave enough to plunge head first into “Alternative Media”, that people are fast to place us on a pedestal, then tear us down just a quickly when it suits them.



Once such incident came when I posted an article naming Nelson Mandela as a 33rd Degree Freemason and Papal Knight. The person who was reading the article, a close personal friend of mine, refused to believe this very provable fact, and went on to critisize me saying things like “how can you call yourself a ‘Light worker’ or ‘Truther’?”



Let me be clear in saying that nobody at Freedom Central limits themselves with labels. I have never called myself anything, and indeed, I am loathe at the end of my articles to submitting to the formality of naming myself as an “Alternative Media Journalist”. I am also an Activist, a Media Artist, Film / Documentary maker, producer, script and book writer, photographer, educator, speaker, and multi media editor. I am also an painter /Artist, having exhibited my work at galleries from age 11; I am a designer, I am also a former Television Presenter, a former professional model, former fashion stylist, former Art Director, and former employee at a number of companies, yet none of these things define who or what I am, they are merely activies that I choose to fulfil during my time here on Earth. In fact, I hate being asked what I do, as I always end up saying “I am a writer”, which makes me feel that I have limited the perception that person can have of me, because the truth is, I am so much more than that, as is everybody else. We are infinate potential experiencing life, and I personally have tried to experience as many different aspects of life as I can, in order that I may have a broad and educated perspective.



Freedom is not worth having if that does not include the freedom to make mistakes, and indeed, some of my biggest upsets I have had in life, turned out to be the best lessons I’ve learned, and would absolutely repeat the experience. I am very honest when making errors of judgement, and try always to aknowledge this or appologise if necessary. I am not perfect, nor should we try to be, for in having acheived perfection, I ask, where is the room to learn and evolve, and thus, without evolution, what is the point of existance without the necessity to evolve?

Besides, the measure of perfection is different from each person unique perspective, for indeed, the world would be suicidally boring if we were all the same.



One of the greatest experiences about this journey of discovery of Self and reality, is some of the amazing people I have met. I have learned so much from each and every person who has contributed to Freedom Central, or has shared information with me. Life lessons dont only come in the form of wisdom, but often the lessons we get the most practicle value out of, come from the lessons that you learn from less positive aspects about people, even those of great wisdom.

Often these take the form of lessons on “How NOT to be”!



One of the most important lessons I have learned is that when you lose humility, you loose credibility in the “Awareness Movement”. Having worked in main stream media, both in front of the camera, behind the camera, and in post and pre production, both in creative and technical capacities, I had for a long time been in an environment where the only way to survive the egotistical personalities that came with main stream media, was to have a massive ego myself. The projection of a “false self” seemed to be the only way to protect the vulnerable, insecure “me”, in such a brutal industry.



It was thanks to Eckhart Tolle’s book entitled A New Earth, that I was made aware of just how damaging my ego had been to my life, and almost instantly, I was able to move out of ego, and into the present moment, where the true reality of life takes place. Following this, my “great awakening” happened, and I synchronistically was guided to people and places that has facilitated my knowledge of “Alternative Information”. It was almost as if I had to loose my ego first before I was “allowed” to access the great secrets of the world, which now make up the vast majority of the content of Freedom Central. I have come to know first hand just how important it is to remain humble, as ego is counter productive to the cause. Once the ego gets involved, people begin to focus more on the person who becomes a celebrity, and not the work they do or the message they convey. Once they step up onto that pedestal of EGO, really, then they are no better than the fame hungry whores of main stream media. Sadly, there are those in the “Alternative Media” who have allowed their ego to get the better of them, and thus they have lost credibility.



From the very beginning, Freedom Central embarked with the strong principle of not providing a platform for ego, rather seeking to find those who are true, humble info warriors to impart information. Our purpose has never been, nor will it ever be, a platform to create celebrities. We exist for educational purposes, not entertainment, however some of the people who have been contributors to Freedom Central, have over time, not been able to hide behind the fake facade of pretentious humility which they have used to catapolt them into the public eye. I had for a long time ignored what is becoming more blatantly obvious with every passing day, until I got to the point where I realised how damaging it was to continue to with hold the truth about what I know about some of the voices of the Truth and Awareness Movement. The more we idolise these people, the more it feeds their ego, and the more of a monster we create. This monster often only serves a diversionary purpose to blind or distract us from the truth. However, each and every person on our planet has a valuable part to play in the education of a generally dumbed down public, but they are only human, and thus make errors or flawed judgement calls, just as easily as they succumb to the lure of their ego.



The subject of this week’s article is Charlie Veitch, who is also one of the founding members of the activist group the Love Police. After requests from several people, I contacted Charlie Veitch in December 2009 to arrange an interview which can be found on our website, www.freedomcentral.info (link below



http://www.freedomcentral.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=45&Itemid=63



It just so happened that Charlie was coming over to Amsterdam only a few days later, and thus I believed that due to the synchronicity, that we were ment to meet up and collaborate in the creation of material for Freedom Central. The day we spent in Amsterdam running around with the Charlie, and his cameraman Harvey, whilst filming him on his mega phone, was one of the most memorable days of my time doing work for Freedom Central. It was genuinely inspiring and we got some great footage, and later that day, I captured an wonderful interview.



Charlie has spent a great deal of time studying the speeches and content of some of the great orators of our time, such as Martin Luther King and Bill Hicks, from whom he continues to draw inspiration whilst belting out the woes of the world to anybody in the street that will listen. At the time we met Charlie, he had been unemployed for almost a year, having previously had a lucrative career as a financial advisor, before being made redundant or “ejected from the Matrix” as Charlie puts it.



After a day on the streets of Amsterdam, we spent several hours in a Coffee Shop, which is when we came up with the idea of beginning a campaign to prepare for a peaceful, global, mass non compliance to begin on 11 September 2011, to mark 10 years of imposed fake global terrorism.



Some of Charlie’s work that we captured made it into the final cut of my documentary feature, THE MESSAGE, and indeed, Charlie came back to visit Amsterdam and stayed with us at the end of January 2010, to attend the premiere screening. At the premiere screening, with the whole of the Dutch Alternative Media in attendance, Charlie and I launched the idea to prepare for mass global non compliance which can be seen in the below clip



http://www.freedomcentral.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=45&Itemid=63



Whilst in Amsterdam, Charlie spent several days staying with one of the founding members of Freedom Central, the guy I often refer to in my writings only as “The Squirminator” or “Squirmy”, as he does not like his name to be used. Squirmy was kind enough to provide Richard (my husband) and I with a place to stay during the early days of Freedom Central, so that we could get it off the ground with out worries of rental payments, and indeed, we could not have done it with out him. Squirmy continues to play an important part in the ‘behind the scenes’ operations of Freedom Central, which is the only English speaking Alternative Media based out of Holland. Fortunately, Squirmy had a massive, three story accomodation space that was an old wood factory which he had made rather homely, which we called “The Psychic Mansion”, on account of the huge amount of “psychic work” that we engaged in during our time there. I personally lived at the Psychic Mansion for five months, before heading to South Africa for 6 months in March 2010, whilst Richard, stayed on at the Psychic Mansion until I returned in September.



It is only when you live with somebody that you get to truly experience who and what they are all about. It was during this time that Charlie stayed with us, that I began to notice that he was not all he seemed. Charlie megaphones about a peaceful, world where we all love and respect each other for who we are, however respecting others is not something Charlie pays much attention to. Having witnessed some of Charlie’s behavior first hand, I can honestly say that he is a far cry away from what he claims to want to create in the world.



Being a non smoker, Squirmy, the head of the house hold, requested that anybody wishing to smoke, whether it be tobacco or cannibis, had to do so out of the main living area. There were specially allocated rooms for smoking, down stairs in the Psychic Mansion, so nobody had to stand in the freezing cold. However, after being asked to smoke down stairs, Charlie Veitch not only continually persisted on smoking in the living area, but he sat down at the breakfast table in the kitchen, and smoked big joints of cannibis and tobacco mixed, whilst we all sat around eating, not giving a damn that the smoke was bothering those who were dining, especially the non smokers. Not wishing to make a big deal out of the whole issue, we let it slide, however, Squirmy did express his irritation and annoyance at the fact that Charlie, who was a guest in Squirmy’s home for several nights, could not respect the non smoking host. Not only was it appaling that a seemingly educated, perceptive person was being blatantly so disrespectful and incosiderate, but the true indication of just how down right rude and selfish Charlie Veitch really is, was the smoking at the breakfast table whilst people were eating, including his non smoker host. There are very few people in polite society that would not find that offensive. Smoking whilst others are eating shows a total lack of manners, even for many smokers.



During the time that Charlie stayed with us, we initiated him with an Aya Huasca ceremony, complete with Shamanic rights and guidance. Anybody who has done Aya knows that if your darkness is your predominant side, this stuff makes you face your darkness head on! When we had all come out of our trance and were discussing what we had experienced, Charlie spoke about how he was forced to look at the real him, which was very different from his public persona, and he struggled with this. Clearly there was much buried darkness which I dont think, even he was aware of, up until that point.



After giving Charlie 10 copies of my film for him to sell in London to raise some funds for his own work, we dropped Charlie off at the station, upon his departure from the Psychic Mansion, and I did not have any contact with him appart from Facebook, until I went to South Africa in March. Whilst in South Africa, I became aware via Facebook, that the founding members of Love Police, being Danny Shine and Charlie Veitch, had split up. Following this, I was sent several mails from various people regarding Danny’s blog over Charlie’s behaviour and his ego.

I refused to get involved or comment on the situation, irrespective of what I was being told, as it had nothing to do with me, and I was not there to witness what happened.



A week or so later, I was sent yet another flurry of emails demanding that I remove Charlie Veitch from Freedom Central, following on from Charlie posting a video which features a little girl reading a note written by Charlie, that closed with the lines “even Lucifer loves you”.

For the 90% of the awakening population who had only peeled back 3 layers of the “conspiracy onion”, this reference to Lucifer would have freaked these people out. The flurry of mails I received about this was more than I have ever received regarding anybody else featured on Freedom Central. As I have an indepth understanding of occult ideologies due to much research for my own book, I understood what Charlie was trying to convey in this contraversial video, which came across as Satanic and evil, but I understood the intent behind it. And thus, I refused to comment on the situation, for in doing so, I would either end up being labelled in the same ignorant fashion, and have to waste energy dealing with the back lash of that, or I would offend someone who may not yet have a full understanding of ubiquitous dualities of light and dark, good and evil, which are dependant on each other for existance. This coupled with the fact that I was in Africa and had limited internet access, made me take the stance that I simply was not going to have one. After making this clear to one person who continued to nag me about this via Facebook, I was then removed as her friend. To be honest, I was not bothered. If this person could not respect my free will to make up my own mind on how I would deal with Charlie and the offending video, then they had done me a favour in taking me off their Facebook friends list, and thus, I decided not to respond any further to any other correspondence regarding Charlie, as I was sure this was just a one off incident, and giving it any further attention would just detract from his good work.



It was not even a month later, when I received a note which I was tagged in on Facebook, written by Harvey, the cameraman whom had accompanied Charlie during his visit to Amsterdam when we first met. Now I really liked Harvey, he is a rather shy type, but has acquired much knowledge and wisdom, not to mention, had a few very eye opening experiences, more so than I had felt Charlie had. In fact, the note that came from Harvey brutally and honestly laid down the line about Charlie and his ego, without ever mentioning Charlie’s name, but it was more than obvious as to whom Harvey was refering to. Since this time, Harvey has no longer been Charlie’s cameraman.

As I have myself posted this note on Freedom Central in the past, I will include it below so that the reader may understand the contents for themselves.





"I'm really starting to lose faith in the so called Truth Movement. I see so many people within it becoming exactly what they claim to be fighting, and not even realising the blatant hypocrisy in their actions. I see infighting, backstabbing, gossiping, ****talking, groupthink, big egos, baseless paranoid distrust of eachother - all things I thought I was getting away from when I joined. I see people paying lip service to things like integrity, compassion and unconditional love whenever the cameras are rolling, but in day to day life completely disregarding all of those things. I see people desperately trying to change everything outside of themselves, without realising that maybe their external experience is just a reflection of their inner state of being, and that maybe they need to work on that before going out trying to change other people. I see people feigning friendliness when they think you have something to offer their personal agendas, but as soon as you cease to be useful to them, or if you have the audacity to not just drop everything you're doing to help them on demand, you're immediately given the cold shoulder, put on a guilt trip or discarded completely like a broken toy.



If we as a relatively small group of people can't put our petty differences aside and work together in harmony; if we can't repetitively say things like "Be the change you wish to see in the world" and then ACTUALLY LIVE BY THAT, how can we really expect to create a better world? As Albert Einstein said: "No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it". Maybe we should take note of that and re-evaluate some of our tactics and behaviour.



In many ways, the Truth Movement is becoming just another divisive ego identity, no different from say a 'punk', 'goth' or 'hippie', complete with its own set of dogmas, unwritten laws and subcultural conventions. People use it in an attempt to define who they are in relation to other people, but in reality who we really ARE is far more magnificent and powerful than any limiting set of arbitrary socio-cultural fabrications. We are not 'Truthers' - we are infinite potential! And calling the very people we are attempting to get through to 'Sheeple' is counter-productive in such glaringly obvious ways! "





Whilst I was in South Africa, a questionable crowd making up the Wake Up Call folk, came together, and put on a few conferences across the UK and Ireland. I was initially invited to speak at the Wake Up Call held in Belfast on 25 September 2010, which was the second of the two Wake Up Call conferences held in Ireland. Charlie had been a speaker for the first Wake Up Call conference held in Ireland. I made a point of returning back to Europe on the 21 September, so that I would be able to attend and speak at the conference in Belfast, only to be told when I got back that they had filled my speaking spot as they were not sure if I was going to be back on time, dispite my promises and assurances that I would. Never the less, I was then invited to the Wake Up Call in Edinburgh, having been sent emails inviting me to film and interview people, as well as emails recommending places to stay whilst in Edinburgh.

As most people know, resources are extremely limited for the Alternative Media, and I often have to pass up interview opportunities or speaking engagements that I can not afford to attend due to lack of funds, and thus, I just barely scraped together the money to fly from Amsterdam to London, and then caught an over night bus from London to Edinburgh, arriving the day of the conference, having had no sleep, only to be turned away at the front door, no explanations offered or reasons given. I was told that I was sent an email telling me not to attend the event (??), but I have to this day not ever received, nor seen any such email, nor has it been shown to the many people who championed my cause and requested the correspondence. I had thus spent a great deal of time, effort and money I could not afford, going to a conference that I was invited to, but was not allowed in to when I arrived. To this day, I have never been given an explanation by any of the organisers. Please see my article entitled THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TRUTH MOVEMENT (page 4 of home page of www.freedomcentral.info) for more details on this.



When I posted the story on Facebook, of what had happened to me in Edinburgh, Charlie initially seemed sympathetic and even posted a note on my Facebook wall, which mysteriously vanished later on. I had not even noticed it had gone, but was made aware of it by some of my eagle eyed readers who have been weary of Charlie Veitch for some time now. When Richard contacted Charlie to ask him why he had removed his support, Charlie commented that the Wake Up Call crew had given him his first speaking engagement, and it put him in a difficult position. Clearly Charlie’s speaking career was more important than doing the right thing.



Everytime Charlie gets arrested, he relies on us, his “network of light”, to call into the police station and demand his release. Yet when one of his fellow Alternative Media Journalists is most hypocrytically excluded from a conference after being invited, Charlie would not stand up, as it was clearly in conflict with his own career aspirations of being the next David Icke. It has become blatantly obvious to this journalist, that Charlie Veitch is more interested in fame than he is in doing the right thing, and if doing the right thing conflicted with his aspirations of fame, he would choose fame. As entertaining and witty as his street style megaphoning is, it is very obvious that this is nothing more than a convaluted effort of self celebration. Whilst mega phoning with him in Amsterdam, Charlie seemed to get rather annoyed when a few of the Dutch speaking people with megaphones, would interupt him in mid flow, rather than encouraging them.



Indeed, Charlie had once confided in me that he had entered the UK version of the reality TV show, Big Brother, and that he had been one of the very final contestants who almost made it into the Big Brother house. Having worked in main stream media, in particular in the Reality TV genre, both as a producer and as a contributor, I am more than very well aware of the desperately fame hungry personality types that apply for these shows. It is fair and logical to say that if you have an aversion to being famous, don’t apply for Big Brother. On the other hand, it is fair and logical to say that almost every single applicant for the Big Brother TV series, and indeed all reality shows, are fame hungry, and therefore, are still very much controlled by their ego, and not their “higher /true self”, which really is counter productive to creating a New Earth.



As if shacking up with an equally (if not more) fame hungry, Cambridge University Political Science (if politics is an illusion as Silke and Charlie know very well, why spend years studying it when the hope is to abolish the current political systems of the world??) student (??), and former reality show “celeb”, Silke Carlo, was not enough to convince anybody of the fact as to just how fame obsessed Charlie Veitch really is, Charlie then decided it was a good idea to go on main stream British television and tell the world how to “Hack the Royal Wedding” of William and Kate. When I saw this brazen and rather foolish advertisement of intent to cause public disruption on the day of the Royal Wedding on ITV that Charlie put out, in which he is quite literally begging to be arrested, I knew that he would be, and guess what? He was arrested!



Now Charlie is a smart guy, and he has been arrested many times before. What on Earth would make him think that advertising the fact that you plan to disrupt the Royal Wedding with your megaphone protesting against the royals, was not going to get him arrested?



Personally, I think Charlie knew exactly what he was doing, and needed a high profile arrest to improve his dwindling popularity and short lived fame. What made me want to vomit, was the tear drenched attempt at an Oscar winning performance in the video that followed his release from jail. It had Charlie crying and cursing, whilst swearing never to support the Monarchy, as if his behavior was a natural and spontaneous epic rant, when really, he was doing an Obama, and reading lines off to the side of the camera. As a former TV presenter and producer, I have become aware of this sneaky manouver that most people totally miss. Although a very passionate display, there was nothing spontaneous about it, and thus I found it rather inauthentic.



Charlie, if you are reading this, and you wish to continue in this manner, might I suggest learning your lines before you switch the camera on. Then at least you can call it acting!



Earlier this year, Charlie, having acquired over 5000 friends on Facebook, committed Facebook suicide by willfully abdicationg from his Facebook thrown. He put out his by now, very familiar You Tube video to publicize this fact, (who publicises that they are leaving Facebook??) and gave several reasons, one being that he had meeting with a guy who was Wikileaks front man, Julian Assange’s webmaster or something. This already began to ring bells of alarm, as Wikileaks and Assange are not who they seem. When Assange was arrested on sexual misconduct charges, his bail was paid by the Rothchilds. I have documentation of this.



So what was Charlie Veitch doing meeting with Rothschild agents??



Anyway, the Wikileaks webmaster person apparently told Charlie the truth about who owns Facebook and some other information, which apparently was enough for Charlie to remove himself from Facebook, or so Charlie claims. However, Charlie’s departure from Facebook had no practicle purpose at all, other than to instill fear into “Charlie Veitch Fans”, and to encourage those still trapped in fear, who look to Charlie as an example, to commit Facebook suicide too. I know a few people who did this. The simple fact is that most of us already knew the facts about Facebook, who owns it, and how it can be accessed for legal evidence by the state in any proceedings against you, a fact Charlie discovered more than 6 months prior when he was arrested and appeared in court in Toronto. And thus, Charlie had also known this information for some time, and he had previously posted a You Tube clip about who owns the Facebook, a year before. I remember this as I shared it and thanked Charlie for the clip! So this infomation that came from “Wikileaks Webmaster” that Charlie claims is the reason he left Facebook, was already known by Charlie for some time.



So what was the real reason for Charlie’s sudden departure from Facebook?



The point is that Charlie had even had several unflattering, yet intimate pictures of himself in his underwear on Facebook posted courtesy of his indiscrete girlfriend, Silke. And when he was arrested at Silke’s home in Cambridge prior to the Royal Wedding, the police knew exactly where to find him, and thus, they already know everything they need to know about Charlie, including the size of his scrotum!!!



My question is, what is it that Charlie still thinks he needs to hide?



Charlie makes himself very public on You Tube, treating it almost like a diary at times. Ironically, You Tube is also controlled by the same media interests as Facebook, so why has Charlie not abdicated from You Tube to if his reasons for leaving Facebook are his real reason?



The answer is simple… without You Tube, who is Charlie Veitch? It is through You Tube that Charlie has become famous.



By taking himself off Facebook, he inspired a few people to do the same, which only splinters a unifying, awakening population, leaving the suicidal Facebooker, out of the loop.



How does this have any positive purpose for the cause he apparently fronts?



It is the very obvious “divide and conquer” tactic, which makes me wonder who the hell Charlie is really working for, as this is the most commonly employed tactic used in the creation of the New World Order.



The reality is that the Powers That Be already know everything there is to know about us, and I personally have nothing to hide which is why I dont live in fear of who sees what about me on Facebook… I have kept my life an open book so that people can see for themselves what I am all about, and that I am in no way connected with the “Dark Side”. Indeed, Facebook has been created by the Powers that Be, to catalogue, catagorise and collect data on every person they can, and thus, some may see it as a weapon they have used against us. The true and beautiful irony of this delightful paradox, is that the awakening populace of planet Earth, have used Facebook as a way of coming together and uniting the forces of light, and thus, we have turned their weapon against them.

Charlie Veitch is very well aware of just how powerful Facebook is, and how instrumental it has been in creating his pedestal.

I do not buy his explanation for leaving Facebook for one minute, it does not make sense. Personally, I think there is much more to this… the question is… what is it that Charlie Veitch does not want us to find out?



What does he have to hide?



Personally I am pleased not to have his hate inducing status updates coming up on my Facebook news feed. It seemed to attracts some really nasty, angry folk, who wanted to get violent and were talking about where to get guns under the comments section. But the part that irritated me the most was Charlie’s status updates constantly attacking on 95 year old Social Engineer, and pioneer of the Venus Project, Jacque Fresco, whom Charlie claimed is part of the New World Order agenda. To date there is absolutely no evidence to support this stance, which was started by unsubstantiated internet rumours. These rumours claim that because one of Jacque Fresco’s building designs scetches, looks similar that the buildings in the film Aeon Flux, (a very obvious piece of New World Order propoganda) that there must be some connection between Jacque Fresco and the New World Order agenda. The simple fact is that Jacque Fresco has been designing sets for Hollywood for years, that is his revenue stream. It most certainly does not take away from his brilliance in envisioning a resource based economy, which I personally believe is a viable solution to creating a just, fair, peaceful and sustainable society. From all the research I have done, I can catagorically state that Jacque Fresco and the Venus Project are in no way associated with the New World Order agenda, and having interviewed Fresco, I can only say that I dont wish to convince the reader of anything, rather check out my below interview and make up your own mind about this man, who has my total support and respect.



http://www.freedomcentral.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=121&Itemid=147



After having ignored Charlie’s blatant and unjustified slandering of Jacque Fresco on his Facebook status updates, no more than four times, as I respect people’s right to have their own opinion , I challenged Charlie to produce some evidence to substantiate his claim, and not fuel vicious and damaging internet rumours about an incredible person and his life long work. For this I was publicly called a “****ing fruit” by Charlie on his Facebook page, before being removed as his friend. What a very nasty, judgemental and intolerant, not to mention, immature response. I was totally disgusted, and have never been treated like that by any of the other people I had worked with, as it is totally the opposite of how we should be behaving if we want to create a better world. He later re added me to Facebook, and appologised after I sent him a long letter expressing my disappointment in his behavior. It was only a few weeks later that he abdicated his Facebook thrown and he was gone from my radar for good.



It is worth mentioning that Charlie also interviewed Jacque Fresco, and totally disrespected Jacque, a 95 year old man who is frail and has a hearing aid, by attacking the guy with the rumours of his involvement in the NWO. If Charlie had done his research, and prehaps produced some evidence to show Jacque, then he may have been justified in doing what he did. But Charlie just attacked the guy, with no grounds at all to do so, and disrespected somebody I rate more highly than David Icke or Bill Ryan. When we met Jacque, a truely amazingly charasmatic man who draws respect at the first hand shake, he told us that he did not like Charlie, nor did he think Charlie was a worth while journalist, as he had not done his research, and was clearly out for sensationalism. Jacque has made it known to several people that we know mutually, that they should not waste their time if Charlie Veitch wants to interview them, as he is a total joke.



Perhaps Charlie should just stick to his megaphone, and leave the interviews up to us competent journalists.



Another point I would like to make with regards to Charlie Veitch, is his constant reappearance on Alex Jone’s radio show. The global conspiracy is a multi layered onion, and Alex Jones, and his Infowars platform, which are really an insult to Alternative Media, very deliberately only peels back two layers of the onion to keep people trapped at that level of information so that they dont look any further. We have catagorically refused to be associated with Alex Jones, as I have much provable evidence regarding who he really works for. One need only follow the money line, and the Gemini network which hosts Info wars, is funded out of money that comes from the CIA.



For those of you who are familiar with my work, or who have read my previous articles, you may also be aware that the Vatican, the Roman Catholic Church, it’s army of Jesuits and Knight Orders, are the true controllers of everything ( at a human level anyway). Yet, when people call into Alex Jone’s radio show asking about anything to do with the Catholics, the Jesuits or the Vatican, Alex simply hangs up on them.



Could this be perhaps because Alex Jones is a Vatican protector?



Well of course he is, Alex Jones is Catholic, and recently gave a lecture at a Roman Catholic School that was attended by his sister. Alex even openly states that “…the “Catholics control it all” people, are the worst of the lot….”.

I have no doubt that he is referencing me, hence why we have never been asked to be on his radio show.



Now this may get confusing for those who thought that Infowars is a good thing, and indeed, there is some great information and documentaries that can be attibuted to Alex Jones and his team. However, it is not the information that Alex reveals that is the issue, it is what he is NOT telling us, and those of us who have peeled back several more layers of the “conspiracy onion” will tell you, there is plenty that Alex does not cover, and very deliberately so, because he is not allowed to, as he is controlled by the same folk who control all main stream media, and thus he is an insult and a disgrace to the Alternative Media.

Alex Jones knows far more than he will ever tell!



AND thus I respectfully request that any member of the Alternative Media who may get invited onto Alex Jone’s show, think long and hard before doing so.



Is it worth wrecking a reputation for 15 minutes of fame on the Alex Jones Show?



There are many other ways to get your message out!



Perhaps Charlie continues to re appear on Alex Jones because ultimately, they are both controlled by the same people… pure speculation of course, but food for thought!



We all know the phrase “be the change you want to see in the world”, a phrase used by Charlie himself in his interview with me for Freedom Central. I kinda hoped that the world we were trying to create was one where people were respectful of each other, and exhibited manners and kindness towards each other. One can imagine my total and utter lack of surprise when Squirmy, who hosted us at the Psychic Mansion, our one time residence, the place where Charlie had stayed and smoked at the breakfast table, disclosed to me that he had recently made a trip over to England. Prior to the trip, he had thought to ring Charlie, in the hopes that they may meet up. When Squirmy called Charlie the first time, Charlie asked Squirmy to call back in 10 minutes. When Squirmy called Charlie back 10 minutes later as agreed, there was no answer, and indeed no answer to the several phone calls made by Squirmy to Charlie after that. One can only assume that upon Squirmy’s later attempts to reach Charlie, that Charlie recognised Squirmy’s phone number, and refused to answer… but why?

Nobody knows or can work it out as he has done many times in the past much to our utter astonishment.



Perhaps it is because Squirmy has psychic abilities, and would be able to figure things out about Charlie.



Squirmy had played host to Charlie, and tolerated his ill mannered selfishness with regards to smoking in the living area. Now Squirmy was trying to get in touch, and Charlie just ignored him very deliberately. Imagine, if someone stayed in your house, took advantage of your kindness, and then refused to take your calls for no reason at all, would you not be somewhat annoyed?



Poor show Charlie, but sadly not surprised at all. Your ego is only mildly eclipsed by your disgusting manners.



I will always admire Charlie for having the courage to stand up and speak out about the issues that we currently face, and I especially admire his ability to do this anywhere, even in strange cities of foreign languages. It takes alot of courage, and we certainly need more people doing this. This is how I will always choose to remember Charlie, standing in the middle of Dam Square…but sadly, that Charlie has been gone for some time now. Some people have said that Charlie changed after he was arrested in Toronto after protesting at the G8 Summit. Others have even speculated that he was comprimised somehow during this time. What I do know for sure is, the Charlie Veitch as he is now, and as he has been behaving, is not at all an example of the kind of world we are trying to create, and I, like many others are left wondering, what the hell happened to Charlie Veitch?



As you once told me Charlie Veitch, you got to be the change you want to see in the world, and perhaps you need to start looking within, before publicly speaking out about the faults and flaws of society and others. If you really want to make a difference, start with you!

Indeed, none of us are perfect, but manners and common courtesy go a long way, and to be honest, it is expected of you “Mr Love Policeman”!!!



My last and final point about Charlie Veitch relates to the his latest video entitled:

NO EMOTIONAL ATTATCHMENT TO 9/11 THEORIES – THE TRUTH IS MOST IMPORTANT.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezHNdBE5pZc



Boy are you full of yourself…who you the “decider of truth” Charlie Veitch?



Are you that deluded that you believe what you say is the last and final word?



“The truth is most important”… I want to VOMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!



The simple fact is that the official story of 9/11 insults the intelligence of a child!!!



Jim Corr said it in his interview with us, and indeed, this is a common understanding of all the people who we have interviewed. (link to Jim Corr's interview below)



http://www.freedomcentral.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=122&Itemid=148



I have written about this in a previous articles. I myself have interviewed a witness who was working on one of the “below ground floor level offices”, and who was injured in “sub basement explosions” that lifted the floor from underneath him. Although this person had a broken arm and dislocated shoulder, they just barely made it clear of the building, before it collapsed. I have seen the medical injury reports and corresponded with the doctors involved in treatment, who tell me that the injuries of this person is consistant with his version of what happened. I have clear and definable proof which I have personally collected, that indicates what we all now know as fact, that 9/11 was an inside job! There is no question about this, the question is, who is it that is ultimately on the very inside?



It is commonly known amongst most of the Alternative Media, that people who parrot the “official” line of 9/11, whilst outwardly claiming for disclosure of truth on various other “truths”, such as extra terrestrial existance and presence on Earth, are most likely controlled sources, and are not genuinely out for the greater good of humanity. Knowing that 9/11 was an inside job, is like a litmus test of truth disernment. If you fail that, you fail to belong in the catagory I would consider as a reliable source of information on any other issues.



It is sad to have to admit that this is the evidence, if ever we needed it, that Charlie Veitch has either defected, or sold out to the “Dark Side”. If not, he seriously has not done enough research to be posting videos about the events of 9/11. Not that he ever does, as Charlie is not a researcher, nor is he a writer, (and indeed, he steals much of his mega phoning material, from people like Bill Hicks) and therefore, he has no business posting clips about serious, mammoth research efforts such as 9/11, as he is not a credible or competent researcher. Quite frankly he is just riding the “9/11 parade” for the sake of more publicity.



I wonder how the families of the victoms of 9/11 would feel about this?



As I lost people I knew well in 9/11 and in 7/7, I can wholeheartedly say, that I feel that this is in very poor taste, and totally disrespectful to those who have suffered and continue to suffer from these events.



Quite frankly, Charlie is just running out of ideas for videos, and is recycling 9/11, without having looked at all the evidence properly before making rash judgements, (something from my experience, that Charlie has a tendancy to do, and has done on several occasions) which is very irresponsible considering the pedestal he has created for himself. Either way, he has shown himself up to be either a fraud, or a very bad research journalist, or otherwise totally lacking logical and deductive reasoning, or else he has sold out… or perhaps he has been manipulated…or quite simply gone mad!



As humbly portrayed in my documentary film, THE MESSAGE, we all have a message for humanity, we all have a part to play in what is going on. But if the relatively few “awake” and “aware” people can’t find it within themselves to move past their egos, and start working together, and not sell out to the forces of darkness, then let’s face it, we are doomed.



If you are only in it to have a career, be famous, sell books or make money, then there is no real point in the Alternative Media even existing, because what they are, is just another symptom of the same problem created by the main stream media.



As Albert Einstein once said, We can’t solve the problems on this planet with the same mentality that created the problems in the first place…

The problem in the first place is the EGO. It is through the ego that the lust for complete power and control by the psychopathic elitists has been created. This is why shifting the ego is so important as part of one’s conscious evolution, as it is the only way to protect one’s self from the darkness, which preys and feeds off ego and egoic people, who are as a result, more vulnerable to corruption. Charlie is a good example of this.



If we are ever going to turn this prison planet into the paradise it absolutely can be, then it is essential always to be true to the real purpose of what this dynamic process we are all a part of, is all about, and that simply can not be done when one is still ruled by our ego. In a way, the rediculous clip that Charlie released is a good thing, it at least gives some people the opportunity to tear down their idol, for in idolising, we feed the ego and create a monster, as we have done with Charlie.



After all, this is not about one person, this is not about Charlie Veitch. This is about us all coming together and creating a better world.



It is not about the messenger, it is about the MESSAGE!



Peace Love Unity Respect



Mel Ve

ALTERNATIVE MEDIA JOURNALIST

www.freedomcentral.info



http://www.facebook.com/notes/mel-ve/charlie-veitch-exposed/10150298005277244

Teakai
3rd July 2011, 01:32
He's not my hero.
I rarely watch Charlie but am aware of who he is and what he has done.

He didn't say that anyone who questions the official report are cultists.

As for witchhunt - you are finding material to attack him because he doesn't agree with your POV.

Maybe because you haven't watched Charlie much you might not be so surprised at his change of attitude, MMA-Fan.

Of course he can change his mind - but the question is why.

In light of his work and the passion he pursued it with - it is completely out of character.

In the land of conspiracy (and by golly gee whizzikers, we know it's all a ruddy great conspiracy) it's perfeclty normal to discuss this sort of behaviour. It doesn't make it a witch hunt.

Chrononaut
3rd July 2011, 12:31
He's not my hero.
I rarely watch Charlie but am aware of who he is and what he has done.

He didn't say that anyone who questions the official report are cultists.

As for witchhunt - you are finding material to attack him because he doesn't agree with your POV.

Maybe because you haven't watched Charlie much you might not be so surprised at his change of attitude, MMA-Fan.

Of course he can change his mind - but the question is why.

In light of his work and the passion he pursued it with - it is completely out of character.

In the land of conspiracy (and by golly gee whizzikers, we know it's all a ruddy great conspiracy) it's perfeclty normal to discuss this sort of behaviour. It doesn't make it a witch hunt.

Or maybe he has been mind controlled on the first day he got bust by Babylonian state-police at his address.
A good example like in this new trailer,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHVU3fKhsjI

yiolas
6th July 2011, 21:02
Charlie is feeling the heat from his 9/11 video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dplk9WDXLLk