Cure for Autism?

[TigaHawk]

Heyas

My younger sister has Mild Autism. It's not to the point where she avoids eye contact, or difficulties with holding a conversation with her... she can function mostly normal... the best way to put it is she's 21 years old, body wise, but 12 years old mentaly.

She has great troubles socialising with people, she gets bored easily and eats to fill time, it doesnt seem like she's going to be able to get/hold down a job either.

Anyway... has anyone here heard anything anywhere for anything which may help cure or ease the effects of autism?

thanks

[jcocks]

As someone who only just found out he has autism himself and who has a young daughtrer with the condition (she has it much worse than I do), I can't say I have heard of anything...except that there are homeopathic remedies that will help with some aspects... No cures tho (I don't think it's something that CAN be cured, and even if it was, I wouldn't want to be cured... Much better to just accept the diagnosis and get help in dealing with the challenges it throws up).

[bluestflame]

there's a lot of "alternative " remedies available , good advice, research and find the one that sits right
http://www.recoveredfromautism.com/

[astrid]

i have ADHD and Apsergers... and have been doing biofeedback brian training for a while now... it has alot of good evidence to assist with a whole list of brain conditions... THe plasticity of our brain is now becoming well documented , as opposed to the old theory of localisation of fixed areas performing certain fixed functions... Anyways , google autism and biofeedback and u wil find alot of info.

peace ,
Astrid

[Indigo]

My mum has Asperger's. She finds help from one of the SSRI anti-depressants, Seroxat I think, which helps her not to have such a tendancy towards obsessions with things.

Also, essential fatty acids are, well, essential. There has been some research done to show that fish oils, for example, greatly benefit those with Autistic Spectrum disorders. Again, google fish oil and autism (I'd put a link, but I'm not having a good enough brain day to find one for you)

As someone above said, no cures as yet, but there was a spray found recently that helped men feel stuff like a female, which may lead to a good treatment for AS. The following is from an articleon it on the bbc website

'other research groups have been looking at the effects of these hormones on humans, including a recent study that suggested men who inhaled oxytocin became as empathetic as women.
Dr Faulkes says: "It seems even in humans that such changes can actually alter human reproductive behaviour, such as how stable relationships are.

"Some people have even linked mutations in the oxytocin receptor gene to certain types of autism." '

[Celine]

This is a great thread.

Autism is a condition that seems to have alot of controversy around it.

It is not a subject i have researched much, but it is on the list.

Are there any members out here who may have more information about the origins of autism?

It gives me a warm feeling to read that some "wouldnt want to change who they are"

As some belie..knowledge is power... the more we, you know about this subject , the better your sisters life, yours and you families, will be.

Be well and know you are love.

[Victoria Tintagel]

Hi TigaHawk, I can recommend an approach that is used by the Son Rise organisation in the U.S. Just Google "Son Rise autism" and you'll find it. As a Nanny I always study childcare and treatment for ADHD and Autism. In my opinion, although every human being is unique, it's difficult for someone with Autism or Asperger, to experience him/herself as a human being with feelings and emotions, needing physical and spiritual contact. The need is there, but it's blocked and children can be very sad and angry about it. It seems, there's a past life emotional trauma, that is blocking the connection with self and others. The soul finds it very difficult to trust (being) a human, because of the emotional pain caused in the trauma. Think of people that are in great shock, they seem out of the body and don't react to input, it's a safety measure of the soul. Son Rise has an approach towards those conditions, by allowing an autistic child to be as it is, without changing it. Medication is not banned in this treatment. The child is accompanied by a trained person that is imitating everything the child does, going along with its play. After a while the child starts opening up, little by little. It takes great patience, as this asks for involvement of the whole family at home. Raun Kaufman, the founder of Son Rise, was born as a severe autistic child and his parents tried healing with love. He recovered completely and shares his experience. You can order a free DVD at Son Rise, called "I want my son back". Good luck and keep communicating with your sister, okay? She's not always showing response as you would like it, but she's definitely witnessing!

[frank samuel]

In the island of Puerto Rico we have a center that has successfully help many children to be able to focus on their daily activities. Is sad to see children with autism become adults and then be handed to the state because there's no family members to take care of them.Mothers here decided to look for alternatives forms of healing methods, such as sound therapy. There's a web link however the article is in Spanish, you can see a lot of happy faces and testimonials. The clinic is very famous in PR and it was all because these mothers did not sit and accepted that these children could not be helped, they proved the so call scientific community wrong. The rest as they say is history. The clinic and schools have been helping children for decades.

http://www.centrotomatispr.com/autismo

Sound therapy has been use to treat all kinds of neurological disorders.While for some sound therapy is controversial because is not a traditional form of medicine approved by the FDA , mothers with autism children took it upon themselves to find the cures whether it was approved by the FDA or not.
There's many clinics around the world who offer this type of therapy.You can search in goggle under, Frequency tones healing for Autism. I really hopes this helps.

http://www.google.com.pr/search?q=Frequency+tones+healing+for+autism&hl=es&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&start=20&sa=N

Many many blessings to you and your family...:wub:

[Shairia]

There are many rumors that toxins play a role in the development of autism. It would make sense for some but not all types.

[Peace of Mind]

Hi peeps,

Autism is on the rise, but it’s not something I would really be worried about…not unless I wanted the autistic person to be rooted into our currently flawed paradigm. We as a specie is evolving, many are coming into this reality knowing it is corrupted, their common sense ranks higher than the average person who is already trained in this society.

Life is too easy, but we seem to like making it difficult. Perhaps these diagnoses are subtle or subliminal attempts at discrediting the ideas of mild evolutions in the human specie. If you surf the web using the key words “Autism and spirituality” you might get a better understanding to why those with this condition deviate from the norm.

Do we really want to implement our love ones into a flawed system? I know I don’t. Maybe this is a way the human being protects itself…by repairing its thought process over the generations…makes some sense when you see the people of today doing very little to make the changes that’s needed. I can clearly understand why some kids are detached from the world we live in…I wouldn’t want them to lose their innocence either.…

*drops 2 cents* :love:

Peace

[Cyaneyed]

The problem is this is a mental condition, and like all mental conditions there is no drug that will cure you because half the battle is psychological. In the case of an autistic person, even if they received some miracle drug, they'd still have to reprogram themselves (scary terminoligy there) from scratch to become 'normal', which is harder or easier depending on age.

As far as I know though, there is no miracle drug or cure for autism.

I'm pretty sure I must have some autistic qualities because most the things mentioned in the first post apply to me.

[Peace of Mind]

What is normal? What is crazy? Who decides how everyone should look, act, and think?

Peace

[Connecting with Sauce]

I'd investigate mercury toxicity, vaccines and food additives... and good gut health.

http://www.whale.to/ LOADS OF HEALTH INFO HERE http://www.whale.to/w/child.html

With regards good gut health I had a great thread on the old forum about liver flushing which has vanished... David Jubb or Andreas Moritiz also discuss gut / liver health... Natasha Cambell Mc Bride is worth listening to too on gut health and children...

Patrick Timpone has inteviewed a lot of guests on this and podcasts are worth searching here once free registry has been done.

http://www.oneradionetwork.com/

*******

Some eye opening info...

Slow death by rubber duckie
http://slowdeathbyrubberduck.com

One of the book author's above were interviewed by Patrick
http://www.oneradionetwork2.com/mp3/environment/challenges/lourie_bruce_chemical_semsitivity_april_12_10.mp3

[Strat]

i have ADHD and Apsergers... and have been doing biofeedback brian training for a while now... it has alot of good evidence to assist with a whole list of brain conditions... THe plasticity of our brain is now becoming well documented , as opposed to the old theory of localisation of fixed areas performing certain fixed functions... Anyways , google autism and biofeedback and u wil find alot of info.

peace ,
Astrid

Has this helped you at all? I'm in the process right now of finding a Dr that works with this. I have epilepsy and cluster headaches. I told my neurologist that I am convinced it's the way my mind works at times that can "trigger" the epilepsy and she suggested I try this. I always thought I have ADD.

Tigahawk I know that there are jobs for people with conditions like downs syndrome. Maybe if she could find something like that she could get out and she may be able to adapt socially. Best of luck.

[rosie]

Hi Tigahawk, not sure if this is feasible for you (location wise), but horse back riding can do wonders to help focus anyone who is having problems in that area. Back in the day when I was riding, there were many children and adults benefiting with the horses.

Please see this link, http://www.autism-in-the-christian-home.com/therapeutic-horseback-riding.html

Working with any kind of animal gives most people more focus, then they get interacting with humans, there is not pull & tug for attention, it is complete, between the animal and the person who is taking care of them.

in love & light :wub:

[Flash]

Sorry mods, I think this has to be posted as a reference (like in a library) for parents that are looking for cure for their children, hence me posting it in relevant threads, because of the search algorithms.

I thanks the avalonian below for extremely interesting information about a bacteria having lost its outer shell and therefore hard to detect that would be heavily involved in autism in children as well as other forms of viruses, almost ever present in autistic children. The worst thing: treatment is possible. Please, read carefully and consult the site, there is a whole description of the treatments for autism and autism spectrum misbehavior (such as ADD). Vaccines would be contaminated with the bacteria. Thanks

In the video interview, second tape, near the end, there is a description of the autism findings and their potential treatment as well.


From this thread:MMS causing terrifying nightmares, sleep paralysis, demons in the room?

Posted by fathertedsmate (here)
MMS is a solution that has saved and changed my life,after 10 yrs of PTSD/combat stress,athsma,tinitus(30yrs),athritis,2 stone muscle loss,vertigo,intense fear,uncontrollable reactions,sweats,shingles,constant flem/liquid in nose/throat,constant cough,anxiety,stress,depression,unable to comunicate without sounding like a maniac,just a few of the benefits that come when told you are mentaly inbalanced and the

ETM 567
Sorry, I just cut that quote off rather arbitrarily. Are you familiar with Garth Nicholson and his findings about mycoplasma infections in vets? MMS may very well have helped such an infection, and that may be why it helped you. The odd thing about Nicholson -- and it is unfortunately a long story -- he found these altered mycoplasmas in the blood of vets of the first Gulf War. And he found that the affected vets could take an antibiotic for about a year and get better. But the VA interfered, and told vets that got prescriptions filled for the doxycycline would lose their veterans' benefits.

There is a much longer story. He had to move his lab twice. He was in Texas, at Baylor, and somehow the medical school was associated with a Texas company, owned by the Bushes and their friends, like Baker, that did genetic work with microorganisms. So he found evidence (I think) that they had created this Mycoplasma fermentans incognito
and perhaps sold it to Saddam Hussein, who then may have used it on the vets. He found this because they did tests on inmates at a local prison, and guards at the prison got sick and gave the illness to their families.

Anyway, "they" -- meaning the Bush family friend machines -- went after him, and he had to leave Baylor (I think it was Baylor; it was the hospital associated with Baylor, maybe?) and move to California. But he had to move again. They tried to kill him and his wife with this illness. They wrote a book about it. It's very badly written, by a couple of scientists and no editor, but pretends the story is a novel, changes the names, and basically tells the story. The book is Project Daylily. I have it, because I was looking into the cause of chronic fatigue syndrome, which I have. And that disease shares many symptoms with Gulf War Illness. But they seem not to be caused by the same thing.

It's a fascinating story. Lots of vets died, unfortunately.

This is imho a very important post. In fact, both are, for all the parents having children with Autism and other neurological and/or degenerative diseases. He also have two interviews on his site that are rather instructive, the second one explaining the different virus/microbial infections found in all children with autism.

I would ass the information here to the threads on autism and mms and morgellons if you do not mind.

Thank you

ps.: I went on the Project day Lily site

http://www.projectdaylily.com/

the health site of project day lily

http://www.immed.org/

http://www.projectdaylily.com/


the interview

http://www.policestateplanning.com/project_day_lily.htm

I read everything carefully and listened to the interview, probably life saving information here. Highly recommended reading/listening

[Ammit]

Can I just say that besides adult learning disability that I also work with autism too. I have as I do , look into the lives of people with this and I actually believe that we all have this to some extent.

From my findings, research and belief, autism is all of us , just a few degrees to the left or right, let me explain...

I believe that the brain is different for everyone, yeah I know, no **** Einstein, but if you think of normal as being right down the middle line of our brain normality and then think of autism as being a few millimetres to the left or right..I think you get close to understanding why we are all capable of having autism to some extent.

The folks I work with all have a skill, be it maths, numbers in general, letters or being sensitive to things we cant see. I believe they have a job to do but have no way to express it.

Hope that makes sense...........

Ammit

[Rantaak]

Heyas

My younger sister has Mild Autism. It's not to the point where she avoids eye contact, or difficulties with holding a conversation with her... she can function mostly normal... the best way to put it is she's 21 years old, body wise, but 12 years old mentaly.

She has great troubles socialising with people, she gets bored easily and eats to fill time, it doesnt seem like she's going to be able to get/hold down a job either.

Anyway... has anyone here heard anything anywhere for anything which may help cure or ease the effects of autism?

thanks


What you are seeking to cure is not the austerity itself but the side affects of the struggle of integration with the collective unconscious/linguistic and emotional faculties that engender human social noumena.

I was born with pretty severe autism, though my parents refused to treat me as if I was as such and I was placed into normal classes in the public school system and expected to perform as a "normal" child. There are chemicals that you can use to cure the aforementioned side effects, namely psilocybin and MDMA. The most effective method is to administer a very large dose (on different occasions) of each, specifically what some have called a "heroic dose". I was literally incapable of compassion and higher emotion (non-basal) for the first 19 years of my life. Then I took an extremely large dose of pure, therapeutic grade MDMA (about 375-450 mg!!!) straight out of Sasha Shulgin's lab. The next week was a bit hectic, but as balance returned to me I began to notice that as I was moving about in the world, I could actually feel everything. The trees in the mountains that blow in the wind, the ferns, the beautiful people and the sky above, etc. Before then, I struggled considerably in articulating my ideas to people as well as controlling my mind and having the self-awareness required to direct its energies through my intentions. After taking 10 grams of magic mushrooms (and about 8 hours later) I was completely cured, completely aware, and completely awake. Life has never been the same, but I feel like I'm a lot better off now than I was. I no longer struggle with people, basal emotions or articulation, though sometimes people will find me a bit overbearing as these chemicals and the experiences that have unfolded in my life have allowed for a much greater and less repressed spiritual presence.

These things are illegal in the states (though I don't know about Australia) so I cannot condone them in that context (though they have been a godsend to me in many ways), though I do know that there are studies being done which can allow one to legally obtain and utilize these compounds. Check out MAPS: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies at www.maps.org .

[markpierre]

Heyas

My younger sister has Mild Autism. It's not to the point where she avoids eye contact, or difficulties with holding a conversation with her... she can function mostly normal... the best way to put it is she's 21 years old, body wise, but 12 years old mentaly.

She has great troubles socialising with people, she gets bored easily and eats to fill time, it doesnt seem like she's going to be able to get/hold down a job either.

Anyway... has anyone here heard anything anywhere for anything which may help cure or ease the effects of autism?

thanks

Try to realize as often as you can that these situations aren't meant to provide 'problems' for your sister and you and your family, rather solutions. These aren't 'medical or mental conditions' as much as sets of conditions specific to the work you're all doing in your own time-lines. The practical and logistic responsibilities are very grounding and develop your empathy which is akin to telepathy. The heart is compelled to open. A really really lovely opportunity for you all, and an amazing and courageous sojourn for your sister.

Unconditional love has to see through all of the 'outside' obstacles and embrace something that can't be conceptualized through your own conditioning and structures. You have no idea what's going on in her mind, you only know she's not like you.

It's true. She's special.

Consciousness doesn't disengage from life because the identity appears to disengage. Her frustration will be largely being asked to conform to structures that make no sense, and lets face it, the world as we participate in it as 'society' makes no sense. We've simply adjusted to nonsense. Our self identities are purely made up to fit into this environment. No one is more true or real than another. They're entirely unreal and untrue.

She has senses and experience that 'normal' humans couldn't conceive. The bigger task is in 'normalcy' conforming to her needs.
Here's the definition of normalcy: Being within certain limits that define the range of normal functioning.
Our limits are stretched and tested and opened by these individuals.

Communication isn't what you think. It isn't how we interact. It's a vibrational melding that occurs quite beyond our senses. Social communication is largely acting out our levels of comfort or discomfort superficially.

If you want her to have a 'normal' life, that's sweet, and expresses your love. But consider the limits and pain and frustrations of 'normal' life, alongside the benefits, and consider what you're wishing on her. Her life is just different and relative to her abilities and purpose.

Her road looks rough, but it's not more than she can handle, and it's raising you all up to her level if you can look at it that way.

She has you. She's blessed.

More advanced cultures (ie ancient or indigenous) regard individuals with differences with reverence. They know of the power and intention in those souls.

So you can work on helping her develop, and that's part of both of your journeys, but don't disregard the value in her being and sharing exactly what she is with all of you.

Acceptance and blessings are the most communicative tools that we have. They don't require words because words can barely express them.

All the best, and thanks to you and your sister for taking on this lifetime and whatever confrontations you face and overcome. You do that for all of us.

Kind regards

[WhiteFeather]

My thoughts on Autism, is that these beautiful souls are vibrating at a much higher frequency, they may very well have an extra strand of DNA - 3 Instead of The standard 2, or can actually be in The 4th dimension. As Esther Hicks States, These Children Dont Have A Disadvantage, But Merely They Are More Advanced Than Us. Give these video's a close listen. Very interesting coming from Abraham Hicks, please have an open mind.

In the below presentation, Abraham Hicks addresses several questions about autism from parents and a behavioral scientist, and then reveals the surprising role that autistic children play at this unique time in Earth history. In doing so, Abraham gives their most complete explanation yet of their perspective on raising children, and shares their unique insight into the planetary Awakening now taking place around us.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4WAYJBDevw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uRDR8pRfYs

[childs hood end]

Can I just say that besides adult learning disability that I also work with autism too. I have as I do , look into the lives of people with this and I actually believe that we all have this to some extent.

From my findings, research and belief, autism is all of us , just a few degrees to the left or right, let me explain...

I believe that the brain is different for everyone, yeah I know, no **** Einstein, but if you think of normal as being right down the middle line of our brain normality and then think of autism as being a few millimetres to the left or right..I think you get close to understanding why we are all capable of having autism to some extent.

The folks I work with all have a skill, be it maths, numbers in general, letters or being sensitive to things we cant see. I believe they have a job to do but have no way to express it.

Hope that makes sense...........

Ammit


Hello ammit
I secound your belief, autism is all of us, in one form or another, (your the first person iv herd saying this, nice one) i have a nephew with autism and after spending time with him i get the feeling i have a slight case as well, his skill is in numbers, every thing is based on numbers.

c.m.n. has some good vids on this subject,

Peace.

[Ellisa]

The OP's sister is described as a person in young adulthood who is becoming more and more isolated in her behaviour. She then asked for practical help to deal with with this adult (not a child) in everyday life. Whilst the causes of autism are still unknown there are ways to help people who are overwhelmed by the condition and unable, or indeed sometimes unwilling, to adapt to the possibility of an independent life.

One of the things that people with autism prefer most is predictability in their everyday lives. Routine helps them to navigate their way through the world in which they are unable to 'read' and interpret everyday cues as the rest of us do. So providing a safe and predictable environment in the first instance is important as this also enables new learning or events to be introduced. Also as someone mentioned, for some with autism, not all, an animal companion or animal experience is often very rewarding. There is a bond between the person and the animal that is far greater than the bond between the person and other people, and it can be used to enable the person with autism to extend some of that feeling towards other people. Music is also helpful, as is drawing and painting, and computing. These are all solitary pursuits, but they are acceptable solitary activities in the way that sport for eg. is not, and often people with autism have 'splinter' skills in those areas. These skills should be encouraged, but not to the point of obsession.

Whilst your sister may never be able to have a job as such it is possible that she could cope with activities in a segregated setting. I realise this is not always encouraged or even is regarded as politically incorrect but direct input in a familiar and routine setting could help her acquire some independence in living skills and maybe even some supervised employment which may earn her an income, however small.

These suggestions may not be what you need for your sister as her condition may be less severe, however you say she is staying home mostly isolated with not much to do and eating to fill the time. Perhaps some more structured activities may help this situation. The things I have suggested are not a cure, they are a way of living with what is a relentless situation for someone you love. I do hope that it works out for you, she is lucky to have someone who loves her, who is concerned and wants to help.

[Flash]

Vibrating or not in higher frequencies, we all have been put on earth to be in the 3D and work with it. Higher frequencies that can't get into the 3rd may not be bringing the help and accomplishing the mission they were here for. (i say may..)

On the other hand, if you have not seen first hand what autism does (mostly profoundly affected ones) and how disabled they are to live in this world, you may not see the desparation in their family nor in the autistic person herself.

Part of the autism cases are environmental and were not meant to be autistics, they were meant to live here and work with all of us. Another part may be genetic and then this is a karmic decision.

For those that WANT it to change, there is cures, more than one. What i posted in page one was for those people. THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE CURED.

To tell you all the truth, I am outerly fed up with advice on autism and the autistic spectrum, autism is this, autism is that, autistic have what it need to be living here, or it is the mom's falt from giving whatever including vaccines to her child. Anyone with autistic relative KNOWS that they want predicitivty in their life otherwise they panic. This is not, in my belief, what parents and relative need mostly. They need a cure and to have the chemical pumped in peoples and children bodies stopped and cleaned.

Avalonian can be extremely good at bringing novel ideas or good solutions. Why not do this here.

Some want out of autism and need the cures, not advice on things relatives or autistics themselves already know.

Gosh Am I fed up, it is quite apparent isn't it. But I decided nevetheless not to censured my post.

[Houman]

check the amy yasko forum

if the child is old enough use also the dr schultze protocol (30 days detox)

[Flash]

Houman,

Thank you very much for the Amy Yasko forum and web site. This is exactly what I meant. Help and potential cure is there and parents need to know about it (adults as well if they want to treat themselves).
I have seen families and lives completely destroyed by autism. This is not alsway a piece of cake and a small endeavour, it is a 24/7 endeavour and no life left for some.

And help is there but they do not know. As long as the information is not everywhere, we are leaving children in a life that is extremely difficult for all.

Mine is pretty much out of the bush, she has dysphasia which may be on the autism spectrum, but most if not all of autistic traits are now gone as well as ADD which is gone.
Only the language inabilities are remaining and some gut fragililies. She is a beautiful person being bullied at school, but nonetheless succeeding very well overall, having friends that do not know about what she went through, nobody can guess how much trouble we both went through, because the deficits are not apparent anymore.

This is why I want parents to know that cures do exist, not to be afraid not to follow their poweless doctors' advice. So thank you for the information Houma. Still more hope for everyone.

And imho: do not vaccinate.

[markpierre]

Vibrating or not in higher frequencies, we all have been put on earth to be in the 3D and work with it. Higher frequencies that can't get into the 3rd may not be bringing the help and accomplishing the mission they were here for. (i say may..)

On the other hand, if you have not seen first hand what autism does (mostly profoundly affected ones) and how disabled they are to live in this world, you may not see the desparation in their family nor in the autistic person herself.

Part of the autism cases are environmental and were not meant to be autistics, they were meant to live here and work with all of us. Another part may be genetic and then this is a karmic decision.

For those that WANT it to change, there is cures, more than one. What i posted in page one was for those people. THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE CURED.

To tell you all the truth, I am outerly fed up with advice on autism and the autistic spectrum, autism is this, autism is that, autistic have what it need to be living here, or it is the mom's falt from giving whatever including vaccines to her child. Anyone with autistic relative KNOWS that they want predicitivty in their life otherwise they panic. This is not, in my belief, what parents and relative need mostly. They need a cure and to have the chemical pumped in peoples and children bodies stopped and cleaned.

Avalonian can be extremely good at bringing novel ideas or good solutions. Why not do this here.

Some want out of autism and need the cures, not advice on things relatives or autistics themselves already know.

Gosh Am I fed up, it is quite apparent isn't it. But I decided nevetheless not to censured my post.


How would you have censured that? That's your heart speaking, I thought it was beautiful. If I can react, we may both be a little further along.

I know through experience that 'desperation' is often the best fuel for change that there is. My own experience included devastating health and mental issues. I don't advocate it, but I suggest we don't knock it either.
When is 'fed up' actually completely fed up so that something different is allowed to occur? None of us know the depth and insidiousness of our co-dependencies. I'm afraid that when you demand 'predicitivty', you are then dependent on everyone and everything around you to behave the way that suits you, and other than what they are. What they are is their purpose, not how we've identified them. No one ever came up with a 'cure' for me. The cure for me was to allow myself to die up to a dozen times in a day. I did that for many years. It was a terrific training ground.

But it tended to interfere somewhat with my expectations for a 'normal' life.

Again I don't advocate it, but we get what we need, not always what we'd prefer.

Having that expectation isn't bad, it's 'normal'. It also continues to draw the experience we need to get over it. Nothing in the world is completely dependable as we're all acutely learning. Nothing whatever is what it appears. It's only dependable if we allow it to be as it is. Changing.
And changing us.

We're not meant to look for predictability here. It's an addiction... hence dependency. But who we all are in totality is dependable. And we're learning that as well.

It seems fair that everyone should be allowed a 'normal' life. And a home, and the right kind of love, and the right kind of attention, and respect and appreciation and health and joy.

It seems reasonable that we should be allowed to have it our way at least occasionally. But we can't have those things always, or even very often. Some of us never.

It is tough. It is frustrating.

So who made up those wacky rules? We did, and we maintain them.

But it's also transforming into reality for those that want it bad enough. For that to occur we have no choice but to accept the laws that govern it, and that apply to the transformation process.

The best advice for a 'cure' may not be available here now, or not yet, or not ever. TigaHawk asked for help and no one else.
Cures occur at the level that they're needed, and everyone in the sphere of the 'problem' is affected by anothers healing. We're healing much more here than bodies.
The best advice for a solution may not be the answers we want. Do they need to come from an alien transmission to be acceptable? I don't bother reading those either.

You offered some extremely good advice and reference regarding treatments and there were others. Your passion is the energy that actually finds those 'cures'. There's more advice to come.
Let everyone else offer what they can, or what they know. You can never know what TigaHawk will find helpful. But we all get nudged a bit along our way by everything that occurs here and everything we say and hear.
We've come together, and there is tremendous power in that.

There I said it. I think I feel a bit like you. Click the button and hope for the best.

[Arrowwind]

Hi Tigerhawk, I find your post quite interesting...

Many years ago I did aminita muscuara mushrooms which lead to great difficulty in concentration for many months. I became socially isolated and had great difficulty. I couldn't do any college work AT ALL and essentially flunked out my first semester. Along came someone who became aware of my problem and suggested that he provide for me the trip to end all trips. I took MDA, which I think is the same stuff you talk about, but we called it MDA back then. I had a miraculous trip and I saw and experienced some amazing things... that did not appearlike hallucinations at all but seemed fully integrated into normal reality but I know that they were hallucinations after the fact. anyway, all my problems went away after that with full restoration of cognitive and social functioning... it is an amazing drug.

In regard to autism I think the cure can only be determined in the cause and I think that there are multiple causes for the condition but largely most cases are caused by vaccination.. and it is not necessarily the mercury that is the cause.. but rather the profound assault of immune system causing deregulation and shock in internal pathways from the the contents of the vaccine.

Homeopathy is reported to be quite helpful to some people and there are homeopaths who essentially specialize in autism. I have been on sites regarding the use of vitamin B12 also given by injection in daily dosages to these children with some success.. they administer it by subcutaneous injection (as you would an insulin shot) not intramuscularly, which is much more traumatic for a daily chore.

Always look to correcting the gut if this disease occurs and that includes introducing beneficial gut flora. I have also heard of a few cases cured by MMS but I have not been able to verify this. Remember, the gut is the hub of the wheel to the whole body. The autonomic nervous system is bundled around the large intestine and hence the energetic relay of disease from the gut to other parts of the body. See iridology. Remember, Dr Wakefield found measles in the guts of autistic kids after the MMR and regarless of the persecution he has endured he still stands by his story.... it has cost him everything. I think Bill should interview him as it has become quite difficult to hear his full account of what the British medical powers did to him.



Heyas

My younger sister has Mild Autism. It's not to the point where she avoids eye contact, or difficulties with holding a conversation with her... she can function mostly normal... the best way to put it is she's 21 years old, body wise, but 12 years old mentaly.

She has great troubles socialising with people, she gets bored easily and eats to fill time, it doesnt seem like she's going to be able to get/hold down a job either.

Anyway... has anyone here heard anything anywhere for anything which may help cure or ease the effects of autism?

thanks


What you are seeking to cure is not the austerity itself but the side affects of the struggle of integration with the collective unconscious/linguistic and emotional faculties that engender human social noumena.

I was born with pretty severe autism, though my parents refused to treat me as if I was as such and I was placed into normal classes in the public school system and expected to perform as a "normal" child. There are chemicals that you can use to cure the aforementioned side effects, namely psilocybin and MDMA. The most effective method is to administer a very large dose (on different occasions) of each, specifically what some have called a "heroic dose". I was literally incapable of compassion and higher emotion (non-basal) for the first 19 years of my life. Then I took an extremely large dose of pure, therapeutic grade MDMA (about 375-450 mg!!!) straight out of Sasha Shulgin's lab. The next week was a bit hectic, but as balance returned to me I began to notice that as I was moving about in the world, I could actually feel everything. The trees in the mountains that blow in the wind, the ferns, the beautiful people and the sky above, etc. Before then, I struggled considerably in articulating my ideas to people as well as controlling my mind and having the self-awareness required to direct its energies through my intentions. After taking 10 grams of magic mushrooms (and about 8 hours later) I was completely cured, completely aware, and completely awake. Life has never been the same, but I feel like I'm a lot better off now than I was. I no longer struggle with people, basal emotions or articulation, though sometimes people will find me a bit overbearing as these chemicals and the experiences that have unfolded in my life have allowed for a much greater and less repressed spiritual presence.

These things are illegal in the states (though I don't know about Australia) so I cannot condone them in that context (though they have been a godsend to me in many ways), though I do know that there are studies being done which can allow one to legally obtain and utilize these compounds. Check out MAPS: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies at www.maps.org .

[Houman]

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Houman,

Thank you very much for the Amy Yasko forum and web site. This is exactly what I meant. Help and potential cure is there and parents need to know about it (adults as well if they want to treat themselves).
I have seen families and lives completely destroyed by autism. This is not alsway a piece of cake and a small endeavour, it is a 24/7 endeavour and no life left for some.

And help is there but they do not know. As long as the information is not everywhere, we are leaving children in a life that is extremely difficult for all.

Mine is pretty much out of the bush, she has dysphasia which may be on the autism spectrum, but most if not all of autistic traits are now gone as well as ADD which is gone.
Only the language inabilities are remaining and some gut fragililies. She is a beautiful person being bullied at school, but nonetheless succeeding very well overall, having friends that do not know about what she went through, nobody can guess how much trouble we both went through, because the deficits are not apparent anymore.

This is why I want parents to know that cures do exist, not to be afraid not to follow their poweless doctors' advice. So thank you for the information Houma. Still more hope for everyone.

And imho: do not vaccinate.

[Rantaak]

Hi Tigerhawk, I find your post quite interesting...

Many years ago I did aminita muscuara mushrooms which lead to great difficulty in concentration for many months. I became socially isolated and had great difficulty. I couldn't do any college work AT ALL and essentially flunked out my first semester. Along came someone who became aware of my problem and suggested that he provide for me the trip to end all trips. I took MDA, which I think is the same stuff you talk about, but we called it MDA back then. I had a miraculous trip and I saw and experienced some amazing things... that did not appearlike hallucinations at all but seemed fully integrated into normal reality but I know that they were hallucinations after the fact. anyway, all my problems went away after that with full restoration of cognitive and social functioning... it is an amazing drug.

In regard to autism I think the cure can only be determined in the cause and I think that there are multiple causes for the condition but largely most cases are caused by vaccination.. and it is not necessarily the mercury that is the cause.. but rather the profound assault of immune system causing deregulation and shock in internal pathways from the the contents of the vaccine.

Homeopathy is reported to be quite helpful to some people and there are homeopaths who essentially specialize in autism. I have been on sites regarding the use of vitamin B12 also given by injection in daily dosages to these children with some success.. they administer it by subcutaneous injection (as you would an insulin shot) not intramuscularly, which is much more traumatic for a daily chore.

Always look to correcting the gut if this disease occurs and that includes introducing beneficial gut flora. I have also heard of a few cases cured by MMS but I have not been able to verify this. Remember, the gut is the hub of the wheel to the whole body. The autonomic nervous system is bundled around the large intestine and hence the energetic relay of disease from the gut to other parts of the body. See iridology. Remember, Dr Wakefield found measles in the guts of autistic kids after the MMR and regarless of the persecution he has endured he still stands by his story.... it has cost him everything. I think Bill should interview him as it has become quite difficult to hear his full account of what the British medical powers did to him.



Heyas

My younger sister has Mild Autism. It's not to the point where she avoids eye contact, or difficulties with holding a conversation with her... she can function mostly normal... the best way to put it is she's 21 years old, body wise, but 12 years old mentaly.

She has great troubles socialising with people, she gets bored easily and eats to fill time, it doesnt seem like she's going to be able to get/hold down a job either.

Anyway... has anyone here heard anything anywhere for anything which may help cure or ease the effects of autism?

thanks


What you are seeking to cure is not the austerity itself but the side affects of the struggle of integration with the collective unconscious/linguistic and emotional faculties that engender human social noumena.

I was born with pretty severe autism, though my parents refused to treat me as if I was as such and I was placed into normal classes in the public school system and expected to perform as a "normal" child. There are chemicals that you can use to cure the aforementioned side effects, namely psilocybin and MDMA. The most effective method is to administer a very large dose (on different occasions) of each, specifically what some have called a "heroic dose". I was literally incapable of compassion and higher emotion (non-basal) for the first 19 years of my life. Then I took an extremely large dose of pure, therapeutic grade MDMA (about 375-450 mg!!!) straight out of Sasha Shulgin's lab. The next week was a bit hectic, but as balance returned to me I began to notice that as I was moving about in the world, I could actually feel everything. The trees in the mountains that blow in the wind, the ferns, the beautiful people and the sky above, etc. Before then, I struggled considerably in articulating my ideas to people as well as controlling my mind and having the self-awareness required to direct its energies through my intentions. After taking 10 grams of magic mushrooms (and about 8 hours later) I was completely cured, completely aware, and completely awake. Life has never been the same, but I feel like I'm a lot better off now than I was. I no longer struggle with people, basal emotions or articulation, though sometimes people will find me a bit overbearing as these chemicals and the experiences that have unfolded in my life have allowed for a much greater and less repressed spiritual presence.

These things are illegal in the states (though I don't know about Australia) so I cannot condone them in that context (though they have been a godsend to me in many ways), though I do know that there are studies being done which can allow one to legally obtain and utilize these compounds. Check out MAPS: Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies at www.maps.org .

I would not recommend eating Amanita Muscaria mushrooms unless one is already very well-traveled. The kind I was referring to in my post were of the strophariaceae family, though particularly high in baeocystin which I feel is important.

[joedjemal]

I have Aspergers and the idea of a "cure" concerns me. The fact that I am the way I am enables me to think in ways that so called neurotypical people can't. The difficulties with social interaction can be overcome. They say Einstein, Mozart, Newton and many other exceptional people were on the autistic spectrum. Would you prefer to rid the world of genius so autistic spectrum people could integrate better? In any case, we are what we are. I doubt such a thing as a cure is possible.

Like Rantaak I also used LSD and MDMA to learn how to interact better. I found it helpful though difficult at first.

[Seikou-Kishi]

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[modwiz]

I have Aspergers and the idea of a "cure" concerns me. The fact that I am the way I am enables me to think in ways that so called neurotypical people can't. The difficulties with social interaction can be overcome. They say Einstein, Mozart, Newton and many other exceptional people were on the autistic spectrum. Would you prefer to rid the world of genius so autistic spectrum people could integrate better? In any case, we are what we are. I doubt such a thing as a cure is possible.

Like Rantaak I also used LSD and MDMA to learn how to interact better. I found it helpful though difficult at first.

I'm an Aspie too, as is my son. It's a private club. To all the non Aspies, I didn't do the picking but I don't feel compromised. I would not want to apprehend the world in any other way than I do now. I see a world full of people I think are not quite right in the head. (The normal ones)

A lot of mind altering went into making me integrate better. Being a performer, (musician) by the age of 14 helped enormously. Acting like a fool was cool. Made meeting women very easy despite my social retardation.

I think there may be an above average amount of people on sites like this that are, 'different' neurologically. Many of us fall into the 'can't be mind controlled' group, as well. IMO

[Seikou-Kishi]

I'm an Aspie too, as is my son. It's a private club. tO ALL The non Aspies, I didn't do the picking but I don't feel compromised. I would not want to apprehend the world in any other way than I do now. I see a world full of people I think are not quite right in the head.

A lot of mind altering went into making me integrate better. Being a performer, (musician) by the age of 14 helped enormously. Acting like a fool was cool. Made meeting women very easy despite my social retardation.

If they ever declare me sane, I'm suing :D

[Swanette]

I have Aspergers and the idea of a "cure" concerns me. The fact that I am the way I am enables me to think in ways that so called neurotypical people can't. The difficulties with social interaction can be overcome. They say Einstein, Mozart, Newton and many other exceptional people were on the autistic spectrum. Would you prefer to rid the world of genius so autistic spectrum people could integrate better? In any case, we are what we are. I doubt such a thing as a cure is possible.

Like Rantaak I also used LSD and MDMA to learn how to interact better. I found it helpful though difficult at first.

I'm an Aspie too, as is my son. It's a private club. To all the non Aspies, I didn't do the picking but I don't feel compromised. I would not want to apprehend the world in any other way than I do now. I see a world full of people I think are not quite right in the head. (The normal ones)

A lot of mind altering went into making me integrate better. Being a performer, (musician) by the age of 14 helped enormously. Acting like a fool was cool. Made meeting women very easy despite my social retardation.

I think there may be an above average amount of people on sites like this that are, 'different' neurologically. Many of us fall into the 'can't be mind controlled' group, as well. IMO


Hey, I'm also an aspie and my 27 yr old son is, too. Being a female aspie has been difficult. I also self-medicated with the same types of mind-altering stuff in my twenties that seemed to help me. I didn't realize I was one until my son was told he had Aspergers when he was 18. I thought I was just a geek...lol

[modwiz]

I have Aspergers and the idea of a "cure" concerns me. The fact that I am the way I am enables me to think in ways that so called neurotypical people can't. The difficulties with social interaction can be overcome. They say Einstein, Mozart, Newton and many other exceptional people were on the autistic spectrum. Would you prefer to rid the world of genius so autistic spectrum people could integrate better? In any case, we are what we are. I doubt such a thing as a cure is possible.

Like Rantaak I also used LSD and MDMA to learn how to interact better. I found it helpful though difficult at first.

I'm an Aspie too, as is my son. It's a private club. To all the non Aspies, I didn't do the picking but I don't feel compromised. I would not want to apprehend the world in any other way than I do now. I see a world full of people I think are not quite right in the head. (The normal ones)

A lot of mind altering went into making me integrate better. Being a performer, (musician) by the age of 14 helped enormously. Acting like a fool was cool. Made meeting women very easy despite my social retardation.

I think there may be an above average amount of people on sites like this that are, 'different' neurologically. Many of us fall into the 'can't be mind controlled' group, as well. IMO


Hey, I'm also an aspie and my 27 yr old son is, too. Being a female aspie has been difficult. I also self-medicated with the same types of mind-altering stuff in my twenties that seemed to help me. I didn't realize I was one until my son was told he had Aspergers when he was 18. I thought I was just a geek...lol

My story is similar. It was my son's diagnosis that lead me to my own realization as well as coming to the knowledge of my mother also being an Aspie. Once you dial in to the 'social retardation' and construct a suitable social/workplace mask to wear and operate form, it is all good. Gotta play the game right to stay out of trouble with the 'neuro-normals'.

Getting straight, drug wise, is when you really come into your power. That is when all the pain is basically cleared up and you have made good use of your 'voyages'.