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Krullenjongen
5th July 2011, 16:15
I just wanted to balance the pro-palestinian articles that are posted here on this forum. I know there are a lot of well informed people here but just i case you read on this subject from the MSM only i post this. You could very easily get a wrong impression about the middle east situation.


Palestine vs. Israel: Pinning the 'Apartheid' Label on the Right Donkey

In recent years, Palestinian propagandists and their international supporters have attempted to brand Israel with the label of "apartheid," the despicable South African policy of racial discrimination that reduced the African non-white population to a decidedly inferior position akin to chattel. In many international circles, this political charlatanism has succeeded in giving the Middle East's one and only democracy a black eye. However, the reality is quite the opposite of what the Palestinians peddle to a very gullible world.

In Israel, contrary to the Palestinians' fictional portrait of the Jewish state, not only are Arabs citizens with equal rights and protections under the law, but Arabic is an official second language. And many Arabs serve in a variety of positions in the government, including Deputy Speaker of the Knesset (Parliament) Majalli Wahabi of the Kadimah Party, as well as officers in the armed forces like Lieutenant Hesham Aborea and police such as Deputy Inspector-General Jamal Hakroush, deputy commander of the traffic division. Arabs are free to live anywhere in Israel, although most choose to live within their own ethnic, cultural, and religious communities. Arab students are welcome in the nation's universities and colleges and serve as professionals in all areas of the national life.

By contrast, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has stated that no Jews will be permitted to live in a Palestinian state. The Palestinian Christian Arab community has shrunk drastically in the last eighteen years since the PLO-controlled Palestinian Authority took over in the West Bank -- to the point where today, Beit Jalla, once a Christian town outside Jerusalem, is without a Christian population, and Bethlehem, once the most Christian of cities in the Holy Land, is now peopled with a Muslim majority. So, too, do Palestinian Christians face a determined campaign of forced conversion to Islam by the Hamas government of Gaza, which permits only one Jew to reside in Gaza: the five-year captive kidnapped Israeli soldier Corporal Gilad Shalit.

So if the term "apartheid" still refers to unequal treatment under the law, forced segregation, or outright exclusion on religious, racial, or ethnic grounds, then it's the Palestinian donkey that should be pinned with the "apartheid" label. Palestine -- where the president and the prime minister hold their offices without benefit of popular national elections, where non-Arabs are prohibited from owning land, and where the sale of land to a Jew is a capital crime.

Of course, the Palestinian BDS movement doesn't want the world to pay attention to any of these facts, and its international supporters will conveniently ignore the evidence, but anyone with a modicum of intelligence and a reasonably open mind will want to seek a Palestinian response to my charges. Nabil Sha'ath and Saeb Erekat: the world is awaiting your response, lo sema-hát (if you please), Inshallah.

Rabbi Dr. Daniel M. Zucker is founder and chairman of the board of Americans for Democracy in the Middle-East, a grassroots organization dedicated to teaching the public and its elected officials of the need to promote genuine democratic institutions throughout the Middle East as an antidote to the dangers posed by Islamic fundamentalism

Source: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/07/palestine_vs_israel_pinning_the_apartheid_label_on_the_right_donkey.html

ktlight
5th July 2011, 16:50
Are you saying that the videos of the Israelis firing at children and bullying people are not true? Are you saying that Israel has not built a wall around the land it has taken from the Palestinians as its own? Are you saying that the world is wrong to make a stand against Israeli policies? And the list goes on, and on, and on, and on.

Which country would most afford to put out in the world favourable views of itself, and lobbies in USA and Europe governments? Which country has a huge arsenal of weapons of mass destruction, provided by USA?

Which country still hangs on to the holocaust and never recognises the events of history that place, for instance, Africans in the same bag, like no-one killed an African for whatever reason, in great numbers too?

I could go on, and on, and on, and on.

Lefty Dave
5th July 2011, 17:59
Krullenjongen
You know how...when someone pukes near you, it makes you want to puke as well??? Your post above ....made me want to puke !!!

gabbahh
5th July 2011, 18:14
propaganda

Let's leave it at that. Equal rights in Israel? Are you kidding me?

Lancelot
5th July 2011, 18:25
A fundamental Palestinian is just as bad as a fundamental Israeli.
Why people get swept along in this vortex of hate is beyond anyone- It is utterly consuming and this sort of hardline attitude can only lead to no good. Its about time they all learned to live in peace with one another and propagated love and forgiveness instead of racial hatred for they are only harming themselves. The land belongs to everyone and all people are one.

gabbahh
5th July 2011, 18:39
I don't know any palastinians, but the Israeli I know are extremely paranoid. Great feeding ground for fundamentals. Who started this? Does it matter?

I guess allmost all Israeli and Palestinians want peace, but the circle of violence seems unending. Probably most have given up any hope, the rest tries to blow everyone and everything to pieces.

I wish I could change their reality, but I am blind too.

Lord Sidious
5th July 2011, 19:58
Both ''sides'' are led like lambs by their ''leaders'' to hate the other side.
Yet, they are not so different and lived in peace before.
The problem is that the ''leaders'' of the two sides need the conflict or they are without a position.
Plus, both sides want all of the land, neither wants to share.
Israel seems to be an impressive nation, lots of effort has gone into building it, but they don't have peace or security and can never have it.
Unless they learn.
The only way they can get peace and security is to make the wall redundant.
How?
Do like Rabin did on the lawn of the White House, put your hand out in peace, but mean it.
When the other ''side'' takes that hand, then you have a chance.
If both sides could control their extreme elements, the ''normal'' people can pave the roads with peace, they desperately want and need it.

Peace of Mind
5th July 2011, 20:06
Greed and wickedness can be seen on both sides...which is probably pre conditioned through the generations. I think if it was up to the people both regions would be living in peace by now. IMO, As long as there are blind followers their leaders will lead them to their slaughter.

Peace

gabbahh
5th July 2011, 20:10
Greed and wickedness can be seen on both sides...which is probably pre conditioned through the generations. I think if it was up to the people both regions would be living in peace by now. IMO, As long as there are blind followers their leaders will lead them to their slaughter.

Peace
We are all guilty of this. What is it that allows us to be divided and blinded. Why do we fight our brothers. Why do we fight the ones we love?

Peace of Mind
5th July 2011, 20:22
Greed and wickedness can be seen on both sides...which is probably pre conditioned through the generations. I think if it was up to the people both regions would be living in peace by now. IMO, As long as there are blind followers their leaders will lead them to their slaughter.

Peace
We are all guilty of this. What is it that allows us to be divided and blinded. Why do we fight our brothers. Why do we fight the ones we love?

My best guess is that we were programmed to do this...Thru our books, movies, music, and TV. This has been going on since childhood... when we all sat innocently in front of the Tele laughing at cartoon animals causing chaos. I think the cartoons are one of the main reasons why most people find it funny when someone trips or falls out of their seat. Why people find humor in such subtle unfortunate instances should be looked at very carefully. It's gotten to the point that stand up comics aren't even funny unless they cuss and tell tasteless jokes. We all need to change the way we grow up....or become violent confused adults wondering why we hate others for no apparent reason.

Peace

Maia Gabrial
6th July 2011, 03:00
There's alot going on in Palestine than we're led to believe. I personally want to see the Palestinians become a recognized state which is being blocked by Israel at every turn. When that happens I might believe in what you say, Krullenjongen....