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jackovesk
6th July 2011, 05:42
Controversial climate sceptic Lord Monckton set to speak at National Press Club

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/06/30/1226085/187654-20110701-lord-monckton.jpg
Lord Christopher Monckton at a mining conference in Perth last week.

CLIMATE sceptic Christopher Monckton has been offered a prime speaking slot at the National Press Club in Canberra on July 19, despite a spate of cancelled public appearances.

Lord Monckton - who recently accused Julia Gillard's climate adviser Ross Garnaut of “fascist” views - is set to debate the Australia's Institute's executive director, economist Richard Denniss.

The Australian Online understands Lord Monckton was offered the spot in response to a request from his tour organisers.

The engagement is yet to be finalised as he has a speaking engagement in Melbourne which he is trying to shift.

It's understood the press club board approved the offer to Lord Monckton on Friday, while Dr Denniss has accepted the invitation.

National Press Club senior vice president Steve Lewis said the role of the club was to “provide a civilised forum for an important debate”.

“That's why we have extended the invitation to Lord Monckton and Dr Denniss to have this debate,” he said.

Dr Denniss has worked as a strategic adviser to Greens leader Bob Brown and worked as chief-of-staff to former Democrats leader Natasha Stott Despoja.

Lord Monckton has had speaking appearances cancelled at clubs in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth since arriving in Australia, after his comments about Professor Garnaut were revealed. Lord Monckton later said he had apologised to Professor Garnaut.

Engagements at the Brisbane Broncos Leagues Club and Port Adelaide Football Club have also been cancelled.

Lord Monckton has spoken at a mining conference in Perth, and at the city's Notre Dame University, during his current visit.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/capital-circle/controversial-climate-sceptic-lord-monckton-set-to-speak-at-national-press-club/story-fn59nqgy-1226088881113

PS - Well done to the National Press Club for allowing this Debate to go ahead.

It will be the 1st time Australians get to hear an Hour long Debate the other side of the story represented on National TV, not just Labor & Greens style Propganda on the Global Warming SCAM!

:clap2:

oceanz
6th July 2011, 05:58
jackovesk - I just HAVE to caption that photo!

"Lord Monckton's eyes pop out when he hears about Carbon Tax"
"Lord Monckton eyes up JuLiar Gillard"
"Lord Monckton has to look twice to find a Climate Skeptic in the Labor Party"
"Lord Monckton has his eyes wide open to Global Warming"
"Lord Monckton sees all Carbon Tax evil but refuses to hear Carbon Tax evil by not having dangling or flapping ear(lobes)"
"Lord Monckton can clearly see what others cannot (er, lack of evidence that is)"

(Will delete this post later - see post 6 and 7)

jcocks
6th July 2011, 06:16
He did actually speak in Perth (well, fremantle actually, but close enough).... He spoke at the Notre Dame Uni at the invitation of Gina Rienhart (sp?)... even though you can bet your ass people were trying to stop the speech. Thankfully, the university ruled that both sides of the climate change argument should be heard...

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For the record, I actually somewhat believe in global warming.... but it's a NATURAL process that we have VERY LITTLE to do with....

In short, it's the volcanoes, stupid!

Lochinvar
6th July 2011, 13:43
Did Moncktons brother not work for SIS (MI6) in Serbia? If you type in Fort Monckton into google which military establishment in hampshire does it lead you to?

I don't believe you can be appointed a Lord without being loyal to TPTB. TPTB want to control everything (in my experience) including the alternative media.

araucaria
6th July 2011, 21:03
Did Moncktons brother not work for SIS (MI6) in Serbia? If you type in Fort Monckton into google which military establishment in hampshire does it lead you to?

I don't believe you can be appointed a Lord without being loyal to TPTB. TPTB want to control everything (in my experience) including the alternative media.

What has someone's brother got to do with anything? Many brothers are completely antagonistic!

Monckton is not the sort of person I would normally be listening to, (former Thatcher adviser etc.), but I have to admit that liast year when I was following the Climategate thing fairly closely, he came across as someone with integrity who certainly had done his homework. I think he is worth listening to - just because debunking the "warmists" plays into the big oil people's hands doesn't mean it's not correct. Things are more complicated than that - as usual.

Thinking Allowed
6th July 2011, 22:12
Christopher Monckton is actually not a Lord, he is a Viscount. He has not been awarded the Nobel Peace prize as he ambiguously/ironically states in some interviews/seminars either. However, I like him. His eye condition is related to incurable Graves’ disease which made him incapacitated for several years and nearly finished him off. The above comments from Oceanz regarding his physical appearance are either cruel or stated in ignorance or both.

My good friend, who took a degree in Environmental studies recently and got to speak to several professors on a personal basis regarding the possibility of climate change being a con. He told me that all of them (perhaps understandably) said there was no doubt whatsoever that climate change was real and man made. I sent my friend a link to Monckton's video speaking in St. Paul in October 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0) which I thought was very impressive. It didn't impress my friend however! Mockton has since acknowledged that his video did contain some errors and that some Scientists were as mad as hell when he was using their 'cherry picked' data for his cause when in fact their overall conclusions were that humans were definitely causing the warming.

Even so, I'm glad we have people like Monckton standing up and being counted and telling anyone who will listen that we are going to be taxed till kingdom come in a bid to stop global warming, which will not work and will create some very, very rich people along the way. The earth has always been ‘a changing’ and we can't stop that. The fact that we might be nudging it along a little bit doesn't bother me to be honest. I was on the band wagon, but the wheels have slipped off for the time being.

oceanz
6th July 2011, 22:28
The above comments from Oceanz regarding his physical appearance are either cruel or stated in ignorance or both

One of my friend's husband has Graves disease he laughs at himself and says "all the better to see you with".

But if others are offended I will delete my post as I did not intend to be cruel, so I apologise Thinking Allowed.

Lochinvar
7th July 2011, 00:01
Did Moncktons brother not work for SIS (MI6) in Serbia? If you type in Fort Monckton into google which military establishment in hampshire does it lead you to?

I don't believe you can be appointed a Lord without being loyal to TPTB. TPTB want to control everything (in my experience) including the alternative media.

What has someone's brother got to do with anything? Many brothers are completely antagonistic!

Monckton is not the sort of person I would normally be listening to, (former Thatcher adviser etc.), but I have to admit that liast year when I was following the Climategate thing fairly closely, he came across as someone with integrity who certainly had done his homework. I think he is worth listening to - just because debunking the "warmists" plays into the big oil people's hands doesn't mean it's not correct. Things are more complicated than that - as usual.

He's a viscount (as you point out).
Monckton is a Knight of Malta (his mother was a Dame of Malta)
His mothers maiden name was Bower (the Rothschilds were called Bauer if I recall correctly (this makes me suspicious))
Apparently he believes that all people with AIDS should be quarantined for life immediately.
He thinks that Scottish people are "subsidy junkies" yet he supports Scotlands union with England.

Let's not kid ourselves. He's got NWO written all over him.

jackovesk
7th July 2011, 10:26
He's a viscount (as you point out).
Monckton is a Knight of Malta (his mother was a Dame of Malta)
His mothers maiden name was Bower (the Rothschilds were called Bauer if I recall correctly (this makes me suspicious))
Apparently he believes that all people with AIDS should be quarantined for life immediately.
He thinks that Scottish people are "subsidy junkies" yet he supports Scotlands union with England.

Let's not kid ourselves. He's got NWO written all over him.

Prove it..? Anybody can jibber/jabber without proof to back it up!

DoubleHelix
7th July 2011, 10:53
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[/COLOR]For the record, I actually somewhat believe in global warming.... but it's a NATURAL process that we have VERY LITTLE to do with....

In short, it's the volcanoes, stupid!

There's little doubt humanity's on a crash course to disaster through pollution and strip mining of our precious planet.

Albeit, amid all this global warming madness, evidence suggests that the planet is actually cooling.

One should not take my word for it, I implore others to research for themselves.

Fred Steeves
7th July 2011, 11:05
I find it hard to believe that a Knight of Malta would be doing radio interviews talking about how the fascist elites running this joint should be tried for treason and imprisoned. It seems like that would be a very dangerous game to be playing, he's very convincing.

On the warming/cooling front, I'm surprised the National Press Club would have him, and that someone would show up to debate him. Al Gore is still doing the old duck and cover whenever Monckton is around, and the U.S. Congress even stood him up at the last second a couple of years ago when he had flown over to speak before them.

If the Press Club actually goes through with this, I would LOVE to hear it. But, it wouldn't shock me if something "came up" before then. We'll see.


Cheers,
Fred

Lochinvar
7th July 2011, 13:34
Let's not kid ourselves. He's got NWO written all over him.

Prove it..? Anybody can jibber/jabber without proof to back it up!
What sort of proof would you be happy with? A NWO list of members?

I think you'll find that what I've printed above is about as close to proof as you'll get on this board but I wish you well in your quest on the contactee and UFO threads.

Lochinvar
7th July 2011, 13:42
I find it hard to believe that a Knight of Malta would be doing radio interviews talking about how the fascist elites running this joint should be tried for treason and imprisoned. It seems like that would be a very dangerous game to be playing, he's very convincing.

On the warming/cooling front, I'm surprised the National Press Club would have him, and that someone would show up to debate him. Al Gore is still doing the old duck and cover whenever Monckton is around, and the U.S. Congress even stood him up at the last second a couple of years ago when he had flown over to speak before them.

If the Press Club actually goes through with this, I would LOVE to hear it. But, it wouldn't shock me if something "came up" before then. We'll see.


Cheers,
Fred

I doubt that we'll find a list of members and we'll probably just be left with making our mind up without the full facts (like a lot of this board (doesn't make it a bad place (worthwhile I would say))). We will be left trying to discern the genuine from the false based on our experience of how these people operate. My experience comes from time spent in Vauxhall, Millbank and the Cotswolds (UK). It's not perfect; it's the best I have; it's the feeling I get; I don't have a definitive list of members.

Mad Hatter
7th July 2011, 15:47
Mad Hatter dons his cynics hat...


even though you can bet your ass people were trying to stop the speech.

Yep. Attempting to stop free speech using the argument that he is not qualified on the subject matter.
It is however interesting to note the qualifications of those making those demands...


LAST WEEK 50-or-so "academics" signed a group letter demanding that Christopher Monckton be shunned and silenced.

Here are most of the signatories, with some notes and links about their specialties and credentials.
If a person is to be judged by his enemies, Monckton looks very good indeed.

Winthrop Professor Stephan Lewandowsky, Australian Professorial Fellow, UWA
Alene Composta’s soulmate (http://verdanthopes.blogspot.com/2011/03/tomorrow-belongs-to-us.html). Yep, this guy can spot a fraud when he sees one.

Prof John P. Abraham, Associate Professor, School of Engineering, University of St. Thomas
Neither in Australia nor Australian.. He is an American academic in Minnesota and suffers from a severe Monckton fixation (http://courseweb.stthomas.edu/jpabraham/global_warming/Monckton/Original%20Presentation/index.htm). He writes to those whose research is challenged, asks what they think of Monckton and then posts their responses, which mostly amount to repeating their original claims. By Abraham’s standards this amounts to “refutation.” He and Monckton trade lawyers’ letters and threaten to sue each other (http://www.minnpost.com/nextdegree/2010/07/19/19810/st_thomas_prof_john_abraham_in_royal_smackdown_with_global-warming_denier_christopher_monckton). Abraham has a dog in this fight and it’s an ugly, self-interested one.

Natalie Latter, PhD Candidate, UWA
Student. Hoping the global warming schtick lasts long enough to get her career established. Her background is political science (http://uwa.academia.edu/NatalieLatter), not climate science.

Mike Blanchard, PhD Candidate, UWA
Another pol-sci type specialising in “governmentality” (http://edtheory.ning.com/profile/MikeBlanchard). Whatever that may be, figure it involves higher taxes and a lot of more of being told how to think and behave.

Prof Michael Archer AM, Evolution of Earth & Life Systems Research Group,
Biological, Earth & Environmental Sciences, University of New South Wales
Fossil collector and parrot kisser. (http://www.science.unsw.edu.au/marcher-research/)

David Hodgkinson, The Hodgkinson Group
“Climate change” consultant with own firm advising clients how to handle climate-change legislation (http://www.hodgkinsongroup.com/people.html#dh) – legislation he pushes, along with climate scares, as an associate professor of law at UWA, which should be ashamed of its Vice-Chancellor Alan “Gag the Man” Robson (http://m.theage.com.au/environment/climate-change/monckton-goes-on-the-attack-over-climate-fascist-tag-20110630-1gs5m.html).

Dorothy Bishop, Adjunct Professor of Psychology, UWA
Professor of Developmental Neuropsychology, Dept of Experimental Psychology, University of Oxford
Spends a lot of time close to Lewandowsky. Evidently it’s catching. Everything she knows about climate she learned studying the development of language skills in children (http://psyweb.psy.ox.ac.uk/oscci/dbhtml/). Why not cut out their little tongues at birth? It would stop them voicing disquieting opinions in later life. Knows all about academic empire building (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/dec/01/sli-autism-childhood-developmental-disorders). Curiously, she has blogged with great passion about grant snaffling and its deleterious impact on research and academic integrity (http://deevybee.blogspot.com/2010/08/how-our-current-reward-structures-have.html). Somehow overlooks “climate science” as a prime example of this folly.

Melinda Trugden, PhD Candidate, UWA
Botanical collector (http://www.palms.org/palmsjournal/2008/palms52no4p181-186.pdf) when not signing petitions demanding an end to coal use in WA (http://www.energy.wa.gov.au/cproot/2692/2/Community%20submissions%20via%20Conservation%20Council%20of%20WA%20website.pdf).

Prof. Peter Newman, John Curtin Distinguished Professor of Sustainability,
Director, Curtin University Sustainability Policy Institute, Curtin University
Just bagged a $1 million grant to study “the future of roads and biophilic urbanism.” (http://www.blogger.com/Prof.%20Peter%20Newman) He is also a “celebrity speaker (http://www.celebrityspeakers.com.au/environmental-speakers/peter-newman/)”. It is not know if sceptics have raised a petition to have his speechifying silenced, but it might not be a bad idea, given what is good for the goose etc etc

Sanna Peden, PhD Candidate, UWA
Specialist in the representation of the Salvation Army in Finnish cinema (http://uwa.academia.edu/SannaPeden/Papers/200029/Soup_Soap_and_National_Reawakening_the_Ambiguous_Role_of_the_Salvation_Army_In_The_Man_Without_Past_ 2002_). And no, that is not joke.

Philip Keirle, PhD Candidate, UWA
Want to know how late-19th century American youths were encouraged to wash their hands? Phil’s your man. See Building Sanitary Citizens (http://www.theaha.org.au/conferences/conference_papers/perth_2010.htm). Phil has formerly written of Supressing Laughter To Build Character (http://sannapeden.blogspot.com/2010/07/fifth-annual-limina-conference.html). He has now moved on to suppressing free speech.

Ullrich Ecker, Assistant Professor, School of Psychology, UWA
Someone else who sat too close to Lewandowsky (https://www.socrates.uwa.edu.au/Staff/StaffProfile.aspx?Person=UllrichEcker).

Prof Steven Sherwood, Co-Director, Climate Change Research Centre, University of New South Wales
Finally, a proper climate scientist. We know this because, while acknowledging “exaggerations” in An Inconvenient Truth, Sherwood (http://www.ccrc.unsw.edu.au/staff/profiles/sherwood/index.html) reckons the movie’s message is “important and on target (http://www.ccrc.unsw.edu.au/staff/profiles/sherwood/ClimateFAQ.html).” One rule for Fat Albert, another for Monckton.

Dr Mark Edwards, Assistant Professor, Business School, UWA
Believes current methods of determining Gross Domestic Product do the environment a grave injustice and insists governments must embrace “meta-regulation (http://theconversation.edu.au/redefining-gdp-and-what-we-mean-by-growth-708)” in order to “guide our economic behaviour towards more sustaining and enriching national goals.” If you are still inclined to take Edwards seriously, bear in mind that he writes for Andrew Jaspan’s little site (http://theconversation.edu.au/redefining-gdp-and-what-we-mean-by-growth-708), The Conversation. No need to take him seriously any longer.

Adam McHugh, Lecturer, School of Engineering and Energy, Murdoch University
Wants no new coal-fired power stations and seeks legislation to stop bailouts of plant operators. The government should “divest itself of coal fired assets sooner rather than later” – not to privatize them, but in order to close them down for good. With all the power stations shuttered, McHugh (http://www.see.murdoch.edu.au/share/staff/personal/180473.html) sees WA turning to “options such as flywheels, compressed air and batteries [which] need to be carefully considered (http://www.energy.wa.gov.au/cproot/2655/2/Philip%20Jennings%20_%20Adam%20McHugh,%20Murdoch%20University.pdf).”

Dr David Robinson, Lecturer of History, Edith Cowan University
Robinson, who modestly notes that he is has bagged “a tenure-track lecturing position at Edith Cowan University” is superbly qualified to hold forth on matters climatological. His specialty is modern African history (http://edithcowan.academia.edu/DavidRobinson).

Dr Kerrie Unsworth, Associate Professor, Business School, UWA
Believes groupthink is a swell idea, except when too many meetings raise “the yuck factor (http://www.aim.com.au/DisplayStory.asp?ID=593)”. Has yet to snaffle a climate-related grant, but can be expected to do so when she can find a way to link her specialty, organizational sociology (http://www.uwa.edu.au/people/kerrie.unsworth), to polar bears or, in view of her desire to see Monckton silenced, the dangers of free speech.

Dr Sky Croeser, Lecturer, Department of Internet Studies, Curtin University
Let Sky describe herself (http://curtin.academia.edu/SkyCroeser): “My dissertation looked at the opposition to genetically modified crops in India to filesharing, the free and open source software movement, and copyright activism, and understands these battles in the context of the broader movement for globalisation from below.” Those file-sharing maize crops can be such a nuisance! Will work on her own literacy if a grant arrives.

Prof Kevin Judd, School of Mathematics and Statistics, UWA
Has sat on panels with Lewandowsky (http://watchingthedeniers.wordpress.com/2010/06/15/a-response-to-watts-western-australia-public-discussion-28-june-2010/). No further explanation needed.

Dr Kayt Davies, Senior Lecturer in Journalism, Edith Cowan University
Specialty: an ethnographic study of women’s magazine editors (http://www.ea.ecu.edu.au/staffdir/profile.php?id=0000000705). Will hemlines rise with the mercury? Can Brad and Angelina turn down the thermostat? Smart summer salads all year round? Davies is your go-to gal for those topics.

Esmeralda Rocha, PhD Candidate, UWA.
Resident climate change expert at UWA’s School of Music (http://uwa.academia.edu/EsmeraldaRocha).

Jenny Kent, PhD Candidate, University of Technology Sydney
After launching her career in solid waste (http://datasearch.uts.edu.au/isf/staff/researcher-detail.cfm?staffID=4427), she has switched to climate change. Not much of a move when you think about it.

Stephen Owen, PhD Candidate, University of Newcastle
“The Thinking Woman’s Yobbo (http://www.quora.com/Stephen-Owen)”, as he describes himself, is an aficionado of modern Japanese literature, hence his authoritative tone on climate issues.

Alana George, Research Consultant, Institute for Sustainable Futures, University of Technology Sydney
Compiles and edits the weekly UTS staff sustainability network e-newsletter (http://www.isf.uts.edu.au/pdfs/staffcvs/cv_alanageorge.pdf). She aspires to one day be placed in charge of wiping down the sink in Institute for Sustainable Futures tea room.

Cynthia Mitchell, Professor of Sustainability, Institute for Sustainable Futures, University of Technology Sydney
All your urine are belong to us (http://www.worldplumbinginfo.com/article/yellow-plumber).

Edward Langham, Senior Research Consultant, Institute for Sustainable Futures, University of Technology Sydney
As Fiji’s former climate guru (http://www.isf.uts.edu.au/pdfs/staffcvs/cv_edlangham.pdf), Langham has seen first-hand why governments sometimes need the freedom to gag troublesome sorts – you know, those who beg to differ about little things like democracy and free speech.

Caitlin McGee, Research Principle, Institute for Sustainable Futures, University of Technology Sydney
Architect Caitlin appreciates the opportunities of a career in climate change: “The service that I am most familiar with is actually the cheap drinks (http://www.hru.uts.edu.au/jobs/transcript.html)."

Prof David Karoly, School of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne
Said the recent dry spell was “the first drought in Australia where the impact of human-induced global warming can be clearly observed.” Hydrologist Stewart Franks took him to task (http://www.conscious.com.au/__documents/academic%20experts/Karoly%20E-mail%20January,%202011.pdf) about that and other claims. Meanwhile, since there was probably insufficient time to knock off a group letter demanding Franks be silenced, the ABC obligingly applied the gag (http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2011/01/national-broadcaster-willfully-ignores-the-evidence/) by interviewing Franks and then discarding the tape.
Hey, if every other news organization refused to cover Monckton’s trip, there would be no need for protest notes.

Dr Tim Stephens, Senior Lecturer, Faculty of Law, University of Sydney
He is a lawyer. His lips are moving (http://sydney.edu.au/law/about/staff/TimStephen/). He regrets that Monckton also enjoys that freedom.

Prof Jane McAdam, Director of Research, Faculty of Law, University of NSW
Cares deeply for refugees – and is even more appreciative of big grants (http://www.gtcentre.unsw.edu.au/content/international-refugee-and-migration-law-project#WeatheringUncertainty) to study where all those “climate refugees” are coming from. Except they haven’t been (http://asiancorrespondent.com/52189/what-happened-to-the-climate-refugees/).

Dr David Mallard, Senior Lecturer, School of Psychology, Charles Sturt University
Drum contributor (http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/39130.html). Also known to have been in contact with Lewandowsky. Believed to be infected.

Prof Alex Coram, Winthrop Professor of Political Economy, UWA
Writes a lot about Marxist theory (http://books.google.com/books?id=mhT4li_KMosC&pg=PA143&dq=Marx,+Roemer+and+the+falling+rate+of+profit+coram&hl=en&ei=2N0OTrbsE5PViAKn1ZjdDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Marx%2C%20Roemer%20and%20the), but has some interesting sidelines. He helps out behind the counter at David Hodgkinson’s (see above) climate consulting shop (http://www.hodgkinsongroup.com/documents/Hodgkinson_airline_emissions.bak.pdf), and there is also time to get ready for those climate refugees. – the ones that aren’t coming (http://asiancorrespondent.com/52189/what-happened-to-the-climate-refugees/) – with the likes of Jane McAdam (http://www.hodgkinsongroup.com/documents/PeopleDisplacedByClimateChange.pdf) (see above). Golly, you might almost think there is a climate industry being assembled. Just don’t say as much out loud or the participants will demand that you be silenced for questioning their lofty motives.

Tim Highfield, PhD candidate, QUT
Draws graphs and charts (http://www.slideshare.net/campoalto/final-seminar-10-march-2011) about what Australian political bloggers get up to, Compares this with French political bloggers and …. draws more charts and graphs (http://www.slideshare.net/campoalto/newdirections-slides-20101004)

Kathryn Healey, PhD Candidate, University of Queensland.
Engineer who worked for alternative energy outfit Wind Prospect (http://au.linkedin.com/pub/kathryn-healey/22/a64/b5b). Why would a person with a wind and solar background want to silence someone who sees that line of business as a scam?

Dr Clare Lloyd, Lecturer, Internet Studies, Curtin University
This environmental expert’s PhD: “I 'heart' mobile phone’: a discursive study of identity processes through mobile phone communication. (http://humanities.curtin.edu.au/schools/MCCA/netstudies/who.cfm)”

Prof Roger N Jones, Professorial Research Fellow, Centre for Strategic Economic Studies, Victoria University
Climate (http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com/2011/05/insane-clown-posse.html) pimp and proud vulgarian.

Dr Markus Donat, Research Fellow, Climate Change Research Centre, University of New South Wales
Trying to link catastrophic weather events to climate change. So far, more hole than donat (http://www.geo.fu-berlin.de/met/ag/clidia/ehemalige/MarkusDonat/index.html)

Dr Alex English, Research Fellow, Centre for Strategic Economic Studies, Victoria University
Sino the times! Unconstrained by nasty little things like democracy and niggling eruptions of free speech, China is transforming itself into a green paradise – a development our very own Dept of Climate Change wants Australians to know about. That is why English is getting by on a paltry $400,000 grant (http://www.cfses.com/documents/CSES_Annual_Review_2009.pdf) to chronicle the Great Green Leap Forward. His employer is chuffed about English’s talents (http://www.cfses.com/staff/aenglish.htm) as a rainmaker, as it notes in its 2009 annual report (http://www.cfses.com/documents/CSES_Annual_Review_2009.pdf): “External research income was $1,576,000 in 2008, up 14% on 2008. A major component of this amount was $400,000 received from the Department of Climate”

Dr Katrin Meissner, ARC Future Fellow, Climate Change Research Centre, University of New South Wales
Believes she can save the world by appearing on Hungry Beast and shouting “motherf***er (http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com/2011/05/insane-clown-posse.html)” at viewers whose taxes pay the show’s production costs and salaries. Behold! The current face of serious, settled science.

Dr Iain White, Senior Lecturer, Director of the Centre for Urban and Regional Ecology, University of Manchester, UK
Capitalism has a fatal flaw: It applies technology to problems, rather than forcing the masses to change their behaviour. (http://twitter.com/#%21/iain_white/status/77980275321221120)

Jason Sharbanee, PhD Candidate, UWA
Looking into the reasons drunks don’t make sober, rational decisions (http://www.psy.uwa.edu.au/conference/School%20of%20Psychology%20Conference%20Programme%202010.pdf). Hint: They’re pissed most of the time.

Isabel Rossen, PhD Candidate, UWA
Has a Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/people/Isabel-Rossen/523736613). Likes cider. Nothing else. Full-blown climate expert.

Prof Ove Hoegh-Guldberg, Director, Global Change Institute, University of Queensland
The Reef is dying (http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Scientists-worried-by-Reef-bleaching/2006/01/31/1138590497375.html) … and dying (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20169258/ns/us_news-environment/t/pacific-coral-reefs-dying-faster-expected/) … and dying (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/254122.stm) … and then dying some more (http://news.mongabay.com/2005/1117-corals.html). (if you skip that bit about there being “no evidence of consistent, system-wide decline in coral cover (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3053361/)”.) Ove Hoegh-Guldberg’s career is thriving (http://www.coralreefecosystems.org/index.php?page=profile&personid=2) … and thriving (http://gci.uq.edu.au/) …. and thriving all over again (http://eureka.australianmuseum.net.au/7F5AB9AC-F885-B0F7-E9EA3784F2843A37?DISPLAYENTRY=true).

He will collect neither prize nor grant for services to free speech, as Anthony Watts explains (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/11/15/formal-complaints-against-professor-ove-hoegh-guldberg/): “WUWT readers may remember Professor Ove Hoegh-Guldberg from when I had a tussle with him during my speaking tour in Australia in Brisbane. Then, the good professor thought his opinion so important, that he disrupted the meeting (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/06/16/oz-report-footy-at-least-has-rules/) and hogged the microphone. However, we let him talk, and he had the audience for several minutes.”
The Coral Catastropharian gets to speak his piece. Monckton needs to be silenced and ignored (http://theconversation.edu.au/whos-your-expert-the-difference-between-peer-review-and-rhetoric-1550).

Dr Terence J Edwards, Distinguished Teaching Fellow, Center for Petroleum and Energy Research, UWA
This grant list (https://www.socrates.uwa.edu.au/Staff/StaffProfile.aspx?Person=TerenceEdwards&tab=grants) has the look of real science, but not about climate change.

Xavier Goldie, PhD Candidate, ANU
Former NZ Greens candidate for the seat of Te Atatu, assured voters he “does not engage in character assassination (http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/32/article_6687.php)” – except if the target isn’t a catastropharian. Monckton should be doubly offended. Xavier, a large and hairy botanist who enjoys the company of other large and hairy men (http://www.bearcentral.com/), swears that gay couples deserve equal rights. But Xavier, what about gay couples who are also climate skeptics? Hmmmm

Dr Rose Andrew, Visiting Scientist, College of Medicing, Biology and Environment, ANU
Immersed in her studies of sunflowers that grow on sand dunes (http://biology.anu.edu.au/Events/2011/EEG_Sem_Andrew_16June11.pdf), Rose also favours uprooting the right to be heard.

Chiara Pacifici, Research Associate, Curtin University Sustainability Policy Institute, Curtin University
Quote: “Having been in the real estate industry for over 16 years, I strongly believe real estate professionals have an important role to play in optimising the flow of information on sustainability … This lead me to create the Green Gurus website and develop educative workshops for the Real Estate Industry so that I could share my experiences and help others take advantage of the many financial, environmental and social benefits sustainability has bought me.”
Chiara now runs seminars for land sharks. Heavy emphasis on that free money governments are handing out to save the world, one subsidised showerhead at a time (http://site.greengurus.com.au/subsidies/).

Source http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com/2011/07/finnish-cinema-and-climate-change.html

Seems that gravy train must be huge to be able to support all those 'Piled Higher and Deeper's


[FONT=Tahoma]Christopher Monckton is actually not a Lord, he is a Viscount. He has not been awarded the Nobel Peace prize as he ambiguously/ironically states in some interviews/seminars either.


An ABC host continues the trend, misrepresenting an obvious joke and assailing Monckton for lacking the credentials that Al Gore, Tim Flannery, Greg Combet, Ross Garnaut, Robyn Williams, David Suzuki and innumerable other warmists lack without the ABC turning a hair:

ABC radio presenter Adam Spencer has been told to “shut up” and stop being childish during a heated on-air exchange with climate change sceptic Lord Christopher Monckton.
In what was more a debate than an interview, Spencer hung up on his guest before calling back to resume the interview (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/lord-monckton-hung-up-on-in-heated-interview-with-abc-radio/story-fn3dxiwe-1226089614992).
The tension began when Spencer asked Lord Monckton about his claims that he is a Nobel Laureate.
Lord Monckton said he was given a pin by a US professor who felt he deserved one for his work and he sometimes wore it as a joke.
“That’s what we on the centre right would call a joke, it’s something you on the left and the ABC might not perhaps fully understand.”
Spencer replied by saying he wasn’t on the left or the right or in the centre.
“I’m trying to establish your credentials ... because there seems to be a consistent pattern, sir, when you speak publicly and analyse climate science,” he said.
“It’s my understanding you’ve never held any academic position at any university or any research institute attached to any science connected with climate science.”

Spencer is also guilty of not being frank with either Monckton and his listeners in claiming impartiality:

He cycles to work and has served for five years on the NSW government’s Climate Change Council (http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/radio-head-20110527-1f72h.html#ixzz1RNBL4daB).
Has Spencer got any formal qualifications in climate science that he can hold such a position? Or is he simply qualified by holding the fashionable view?

About the NSW Climate Change Council
The NSW Climate Change Council was established by the Minister on 10 March 2008 to provide independent, expert advice on climate change related issues (http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/climateChange/climatechngcncl.htm)from range of sectors including business, industry, science and research, environment and regional communities.

As for not being of the Left... (http://www.deewr.gov.au/Ministers/Gillard/Media/Transcripts/Pages/Article_100512_125209.aspx)
Listen to Spencer’s attempt to discredit Monckton without tackling his arguments here (http://blogs.abc.net.au/nsw/2011/07/lord-christopher-monckton-interview.html?site=sydney&program=702_breakfast) and, and post hang-up, here (http://blogs.abc.net.au/files/monckton-part-2-1.mp3). Monckton deals very well with Spencer’s research, clearly drawn from warmist websites without any checking of the truth of the claims made there.
Disgraceful.

Source http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/monckton_offered_a_debate/


PS Keep an eye out for a can of death near you...report the problem to your OH&S department!!

http://blogs.news.com.au/images/uploads/OfficePollution_thumb.jpg

Cheers

jackovesk
7th July 2011, 17:20
Let's not kid ourselves. He's got NWO written all over him.

Prove it..? Anybody can jibber/jabber without proof to back it up!
What sort of proof would you be happy with? A NWO list of members?

I think you'll find that what I've printed above is about as close to proof as you'll get on this board but I wish you well in your quest on the contactee and UFO threads.

Your joking right? How about a link or MSM article...?

Most of us who have been around here for a while, will make a statement backed up by some research that we believe to be true.

Look forward to reading your research Lochinvar, if you actually have any that is?

Probably did a Google search and picked the 1st negative thing you found on Monkton?

I for one will not be taking your word for it, now or in the future.


His mothers maiden name was Bower (the Rothschilds were called Bauer if I recall correctly (this makes me suspicious))


Nice Detective work there Mate?

:pound: :pound: :pound:

araucaria
7th July 2011, 18:46
my mother's maiden name was SMith, so I guess I'm some kind of agent Smith...

for some hard science, go to

http://wattsupwiththat.com/

a site where guys like me would not dare sign on because we are just not competent in that field. But you don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand what is going on with Michael Mann's "hockey stick" or Phil Jones's "research" at East Anglia university. This is the stuff that Monckton has on his fingertips.

Lochinvar
7th July 2011, 21:39
Your joking right? How about a link or MSM article...?

Most of us who have been around here for a while, will make a statement backed up by some research that we believe to be true.

Look forward to reading your research Lochinvar, if you actually have any that is?

Probably did a Google search and picked the 1st negative thing you found on Monkton?

I for one will not be taking your word for it, now or in the future.


His mothers maiden name was Bower (the Rothschilds were called Bauer if I recall correctly (this makes me suspicious))


Nice Detective work there Mate?

:pound: :pound: :pound:

His name is Monckton not Monkton. I don't think it is a good idea to put the MSM forward as a source of the truth do you?

jackovesk
8th July 2011, 05:00
His name is Monckton not Monkton. I don't think it is a good idea to put the MSM forward as a source of the truth do you?

A spelling mistake? Is that the best you can do?

Still nothing to back up your statement, Enough said..!

You would'nt by chance happen to believe in Global Warming would you?

Lochinvar
8th July 2011, 12:43
You would'nt by chance happen to believe in Global Warming would you?

I most certainly do believe in global warming. I don't however believe in MAN-MADE global warming.

jackovesk
12th July 2011, 14:26
Angry voters clamouring to be heard...:mad2:

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/07/12/1226093/327712-valdman-wednesday.jpg

MAINSTREAM Australia has been isolated as the carbon tax debate rages and voters are rightly angry about the treatment they have received from the Federal Government.

Today's exclusive Galaxy poll clearly shows people feel the carbon tax will leave them worse off, be bad for the economy and do little to help the environment.

They also believe the Greens have too much say in the running of the nation and want an early election to be held over the carbon-tax issue.

There is a crisis of confidence emerging in Australia's democracy and Ms Gillard has only herself to blame.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opinion/editorial-angry-voters-clamouring-to-be-heard/story-e6freabl-1226093356048

PS...and for the last time JuLIAR Fabian Socialist Gillaaard..! Its not Carbon Pollution its Carbon Dioxide CO2, you know the stuff we all breath out and helps the plants grow!

:mad2:

ulli
12th July 2011, 15:04
With global government in it's final planning stages
then global taxation will naturally be their first mandate.

And since they can only charge a tax related to global issues
global warming will be number one, with global security in second place.

As the debates are becoming fiercer I am asking myself
if not all sides are being used as players in this theatre.

The aim is to get public opinion in these matters
which in turn will be monitored in order to provide necessary statistics
which can give the planners an indication
as to what percentage level of taxation they can impose when the time comes.

jackovesk
12th July 2011, 15:29
Tomorrow must 'NOT' belong to such people

GetUp, the organisation using threats to shut down debate (http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_getup_and_the_closing_down_of_debate/), using threats to shut down debate, may play yet another trick that has nothing to do with countering arguments with reason.

Malcolm Farr tweets about the National Press Club debate between sceptic Lord Monckton and a warmist:

@farrm51
Malcolm Farr Hey wouldn’t it be funny if GetUp booked about 100 seats at the NPC for Monkton’s appearance Tuesday. Actually, I think they have.

There is something terribly familiar about these young extremists from GetUp &:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxvjHDmmJoA&feature=player_embedded

A Price on Carbon - In Five Easy Steps by GetUp:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkZFwLrQJJA&feature=player_embedded
:mad2:

The IPA’s Tim Wilson is amazed that GetUp could produce, edit and release this video on Sunday, since it draws on information on Julia Gillard’s carbon dioxide tax that was embargoed until noon. Indeed, Wilson believes GetUp boss Simon Sheikh was quoting from embargoed documents during their Sky News debate before noon.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/tomorrow_must_not_belong_to_such_people/

PS - What precisely are the links between this organisation GetUp and the government?

BMJ
13th July 2011, 02:21
Hi Guys,
Carbon tax is just another step towards the micro management of YOUR PERSONAL cashflow. NWO would like to get us to the point were we live from hand to mouth.

As Jack suggests there is no logic to the carbon tax it is a excuse to grab more money from mr & mrs citizen back pocket.

jackovesk
19th July 2011, 07:20
Affronted aristocrat defies the Lords - Monckton rebuked

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/07/19/1226097/717549-monckton.jpg
Christopher Monckton displays his passport to demonstrate his aristocratic rank of viscount, after Britain's parliament told him to stop claiming to be a member of the House of Lords. Picture: Smith Kym Source: The Australian

Monckton’s commanding performance at the National Press Club today made the vast majority of journalists there seem:


warmist group thinkers in a pack attack.

under-researched

ignorant of basic criticisms of warmist deceits, with one journalist even referring to carbon dioxide as “pollution” and another accusing Monckton falsely of denying “climate change”.


What was shown would have confirmed the suspicions of many about the bias of the media in reporting global warming.

After last week’s “please tell us what to report” Gillard love-in, the press club might consider not broadcasting further events to better protect the reputations of its members.

UPDATE

Monckton responds to this latest ad hominem attack on his credibility:


“The House of Lords Act 1999 debarred all but 92 of the 650 Hereditary Peers, including my father, from sitting or voting, and purported to – but did not – remove membership of the Upper House. Letters Patent granting peerages, and consequently membership, are the personal gift of the Monarch. Only a specific law can annul a grant. The 1999 Act was a general law. The then Government, realizing this defect, took three maladroit steps: it wrote asking expelled Peers to return their Letters Patent (though that does not annul them); in 2009 it withdrew the passes admitting expelled Peers to the House (and implying they were members); and it told the enquiry clerks to deny they were members: but a written Parliamentary Answer by the Lord President of the Council admits that general legislation cannot annul Letters Patent, so I am The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley (as my passport shows), a member of the Upper House but without the right to sit or vote, and I have never pretended otherwise.”

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/monckton_rebuked/

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/climate/agitated-aristocrat-defies-the-lords/story-e6frg6xf-1226097667207

PS - Blogger Quote: "Monckton has every right to make his small protest against the destruction of the Lords. He is more a Lord by any natural measure than the jumped up trade union officials and assorted luvvies who now darken the doors of the chamber."

With that being said who 'Bloody Cares' whether Monckton is a Lord or Not!

I only care about stopping Labor & the Greens and their 'Carbon Tax SCAM' and preventing our Country from going down the gurgler!!!

Mad Hatter
19th July 2011, 09:37
For those curious... (this was up pretty quickly)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=207lg-1GWAE
Having watched it I certainly didn't sense any changing of trenches by the lamestream meeja mores the pity. For a classic view of someone completely brainwashed check out the snarl on the face of the youngest questioner...

cheers