Economic Collapse a Mathematical Certainty

[Eric J (Viking)]

I just wish they would get this over and done with, then we can start getting on with the new age!!

The dollar collapse will be the single largest event in human history. This will be the first event that will touch every single living person in the world. All human activity is controlled by money. Our wealth,our work,our food,our government,even our relationships are affected by money.

No money in human history has had as much reach in both breadth and depth as the dollar. It is the de facto world currency. All other currency collapses will pale in comparison to this big one. All other currency crises have been regional and there were other currencies for people to grasp on to.

This collapse will be global and it will bring down not only the dollar but all other fiat currencies,as they are fundamentally no different. The collapse of currencies will lead to the collapse of ALL paper assets. The repercussions to this will have incredible results worldwide.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3-vwYJiD8g&feature=youtu.be

http://dont-tread-on.me/

http://www.truthwinds.com/siterun_data/business/economy/news.php?q=1309991879

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So this leads me to the Top 5 Places Not To Be When the Dollar Collapses.

1. Israel- This Anglo-American beach head into the Middle East was first conceived by the most powerful family in the world,the Rothschilds,in 1917. The Balfour Declaration said that there will be a Zionist Israel years before World War two and the eventual establishment of Israel.

Israel has not been a good neighbor to its Muslim nations and has always had the two biggest bullies on the block at it’s back. When the dollar collapses,the United States will have much to much on its plate both domestically and internationally to worry about such a non-strategic piece of land.

This will leave Israel very weak at a time when tensions will be high. This very thin strip of desert land will not be able to with stand the economic reality of importing its food and fuel or the political reality of being surrounded by Muslims.

2. Southern California- The land of Fruits and Nuts turns into Battlefield Los Angeles. 20 million people packed into an area that has no water and thus food is not good to say the least. Throw on top of the huge wealth disparities and the proximity to a narco state and this does not bode well.

We have seen riots for Rodney King,what will happen when the dollar is destroyed and food an fuel stop coming into this area. People will get desperate and do crazy things,especially when a huge proportion of its citizens are on anti depressants.

If food and fuel cannot get in,what about Zolfot? At a time when people’s world are falling apart they lack the ability to deal with this new paradigm. If people come off of these drugs too fast they suffer psychotic breaks and you will have thousands of shootings or suicides.

3. England- The Land of the Big Brother and former Empire of world wide slave and drug trade will suffer heavily. The stiff upper lip that their the British Elite ingrained into their sheeple will not work anymore as the British population explodes.

The human character will sacrifice and unite for a foreign enemy,but not if the enemy has always been the Elite. The Anglo-American Empire may pull off another false flag to distract it’s population on another Emmanuel Goldstein like in 1984,but I feel this collapse will happen before they pull it off.

This will make all eyes point at the British Elite as solely responsible for this catastrophe. We have seen massive riots for soccer matches with hooligans. What will happen when this island with very little food and fuel gets cut off?

4. New York City- Another large urban area living too high on the dollar hog. NYC is the area I moved out of in 2008. There is little doubt that all of the wealth in New York,New Jersey and Connecticut is derivative off of Wall Street wealth.

The savings and investments of the whole nation and much of the world flows through this financial capital. As the world wakes up to the massive financial fraud,this will lead to the destruction of capital like we have never seen before. This will have tremendous effects on the regional economy as people driving in Mercedes suddenly wonder where their next meal is coming from.

5. Washington D.C.- The political collapse of the Federal Government will wreck havoc on the hugely inflated local economy. As more and more states find it necessary to assert their natural control,the Federal Government will suddenly loose power and importance as the whole world suffers from a Global Hurricane Katrina.

The money that they create and spend,will become worthless and the government minions pensions will evaporate. Millions that once relied on the ability to force others to send their money to them,will learn that the real power has always been at the most local level.

Massive decentralization will be the answer to globalization gone mad. Local families and communities will forgo sending money and power out of their community,as they will care about their next meal and keeping warm.

“You can ignore reality,but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.” -Ayn Rand

To sum up,those areas that have lived highest on the hog in the dollar paradigm will most likely be the worst places to live when the dollar collapses. Many of you will find this article with passing interest,but rest assured this dollar collapse is coming. It is a mathematical inevitability. We will not be as fortunate to muddle through this collapse like we did in 2008 when it was a corporate problem.

This time around,it is a national and global problem. The global Ponzi scheme has run out of gas as the demographics decline,as cheap abundant oil declines,as hegemonic power declines. This comes at a time when we reach the exponential or collapse phase of our money.

The Irresistible Force Paradox says,“”What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?”We are about to find out,when infinite money hits a very finite world.

http://theintelhub.com/2011/06/24/top-5-places-not-to-be-when-the-dollar-collapses/

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viking

[christian]

Financial collapse is a certainty, there is no need for the economy, meaning people's deeds, to collapse. We can still work, regardless of funny money.

But of course people will reset their priorities, once they realize that funny money buys them nothing anymore. Still, most of us have a brain to think, hands to act and a heart to keep going when going gets tough.

[blake]

Hello Viking,

I can appreciate your feelings of, "I just wish they would get this over and done with, then we can start getting on with the new age!!" I am sure you have heard similar statements by many others over the pass few years or more. I do appreciate each day, and I am not looking forward to the collapse. Perhpas it will collapse as we all expect, and soon; but somehow I think there will be an unpredictable bit of a twist to it. According to some, who have studied the makings of the Federal Reserve, the PTB knew a hundred years ago that this is where this system would lead America, and so they planned accordingly through the generations. Unfortunately the general populace is not privy to their "thinking out of the box" plans. We only can rely on logic and common sense with the facts at hand. Unfortunately we don't know ALL THE FACTS" just what they want us to know. When did the PTB ever just use logic while weilding their monopoly of power about. There strategy is always misdirections and manipulation. I am rooting for your golden age, Viking. I am just not placing any gold bets on it. My expectations concerning the economic dismise presently crossing the metaphorical train tracks is to expect the unexpected. Black swans abound, surely, but the PTB have their strategy and have had it for generations. I am wondering how they will use the present menatlity of people expecting a worldwide collapse to their ongoing chess game.


Sincerely,
Mr Davis

[The One]

They will try and hang on as long as they can cause when it does happen they will have nowhere left to run

[blake]

Hello The One,

Are you privy to their private plans and manipulations to know that as a fact? Or is that just your best guess, based on what you see is going on?

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis

[Lord Sidious]

They will try and hang on as long as they can cause when it does happen they will have nowhere left to run

Actually, no.
The system was always designed to be collapsable when they want it to be.
They have a plan, don't worry about that, this is just a phase in a looooooooooooong plan of world domination.

[pyrangello]

My friend recommended a book to me called " The patriot" which costs about 7 bucks present u.s. dollar value, lol , and " Unintended Consequences" which is about $ 80.00 used and $ 250.00 new for the serious readers. I bought several of the patriot books and gave them away with the promise they would hand it off to the next person when they are done. Everyone who started reading it did so in 2-3 days . It has to do with everything that is being discussed here on this forum. I will say my impression of any collapse will detail the mentaliy of staying away from being fear based. Besides all the obvious issues I believe 90% of the worlds population are good people, in crunch times it will be up to the 90% to stick together as the 10% tries to create the chaos!!!! It's no different then what it is right now with the 10% being incarcerated,or being of the news media if you want to call it or PTB format, we really should put our own spin on the phase PTB and rename it PBJ for peanut butter and jelly, I think they deserve that title much better than having an official title and why not crate a logo with 2 pieces of bread on it too !

Honestly there will be so many agendas and mini groups forming everywhere there will be so much going on it will be impossible to track, we just have to rely on our soul within to do the right thing and keep people together. I too moved out of the detroit area 15 years ago, went back to a simplilar way of life, alot slower and more quality. Just follow your intuition and roll with it when any unraveling starts to happen , until then just prep til you feel comfortable and then go on with your life with your family and friends and forget about what you can't control but realize what you can control or take charge of . life is good-no fear!!!! Help one person everyday and yes remember to smile everyday too. Create that good karma as it does make a difference!

[The One]

Hello The One,

Are you privy to their private plans and manipulations to know that as a fact? Or is that just your best guess, based on what you see is going on?

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis

That is my own personal opinion dear Mr Davis aka Blake

[Humble Janitor]

No offense to the OP but I have heard this same tiresome proclamation OVER and OVER and OVER.

It is fearmongering, plain and simple!

If the economy collapses (or has it or will it or I don't ****ing know?), it's not the end of the world altogether. We will need to find alternate forms of worth, perhaps a different type of currency or bartering or whatnot.

I would love a reality where I no longer have to work a crappy 10 to 6 job to prop up an economy/political system/tax system that is always on the verge of failure. I'd rather be doing something that utilizes my talents and doesn't require endless amounts of fiat currency to sustain.

[Enquiring1]

In my humble opinion, the financial collapse will be the trigger for TPB disgusting plans for killing off the population.

Economic collapse = mass starvation

Their is a old european proverb:

"Civilisation is only 7 meals away from chaos"

I am not looking forward to the collapse because I think things are gonna get nasty.

I wish I could put on rose coloured glasses but from my POV the masses of people are fast asleep and couped up in cities which will quickly become nothing short off gigantic concentration camps when the food supply gets turned off.

Its kind of ironic because it maybe that the economy has been the super weapon all along.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hello Viking,

I can appreciate your feelings of, "I just wish they would get this over and done with, then we can start getting on with the new age!!" I am sure you have heard similar statements by many others over the pass few years or more. I do appreciate each day, and I am not looking forward to the collapse. Perhpas it will collapse as we all expect, and soon; but somehow I think there will be an unpredictable bit of a twist to it. According to some, who have studied the makings of the Federal Reserve, the PTB knew a hundred years ago that this is where this system would lead America, and so they planned accordingly through the generations. Unfortunately the general populace is not privy to their "thinking out of the box" plans. We only can rely on logic and common sense with the facts at hand. Unfortunately we don't know ALL THE FACTS" just what they want us to know. When did the PTB ever just use logic while weilding their monopoly of power about. There strategy is always misdirections and manipulation. I am rooting for your golden age, Viking. I am just not placing any gold bets on it. My expectations concerning the economic dismise presently crossing the metaphorical train tracks is to expect the unexpected. Black swans abound, surely, but the PTB have their strategy and have had it for generations. I am wondering how they will use the present menatlity of people expecting a worldwide collapse to their ongoing chess game.


Sincerely,
Mr Davis

Hello Mr Davis ...

Thanks for popping in...

Yes I too think there will be a 'unpredictable bit of a twist to it' ;-)

But not in favour of the ptw ... !

Rest assured the light is getting stronger...I am sure you know this, but never underestimate the power of thought>>>

:whistle:

viking

[The One]

I would love a reality where I no longer have to work a crappy 10 to 6 job to prop up an economy/political system/tax system that is always on the verge of failure. I'd rather be doing something that utilizes my talents and doesn't require endless amounts of fiat currency to sustain

Spot on my friend what some people don’t realise is that we are all part of this corrupt system is some way or other

[Camilo]

Totally agree, there is no need to worry about. I't will be unsettling for a while but not total collapse.

[Fred Steeves]

Yes I too think there will be a 'unpredictable bit of a twist to it' ;-)

But not in favour of the ptw ... !

Rest assured the light is getting stronger...I am sure you know this, but never underestimate the power of thought>>>



Hi Viking, you basically took the words out of my mouth. Their powerful finger may be on the button, but I'll bet you my last frosty cold Budweiser that finger is trembling.


Cheers,
Fred

[JoshERTW]

Stock up on dry food and seeds and a way of treating your own water, Simple tools, matches, first aid kit, and a good bike and back pack. Basically just keep the supplies for a long camping trip in your house at all times IMO - then you can be ready to wait things out if they get too crazy. If you don't know much about "survivalist" stuff, buy one of the books out there and keep it around just in case. Knowledge is power, and being prepared is never stupid or crazy - unless you're blowing your life savings on a nuclear bomb shelter or something. All things in moderation.

[Lost Soul]

They will try and hang on as long as they can cause when it does happen they will have nowhere left to run

Actually, no.
The system was always designed to be collapsable when they want it to be.
They have a plan, don't worry about that, this is just a phase in a looooooooooooong plan of world domination.

Agreed, the financial collapse is designed to induce us into demanding a stable, new currency. TPTB will comply and give us a world currency, bringing us further into their control grid. It may even be an electronic currency. (This was raised on pages 185-189 of the book, Aftershock: Protect Yourself and Profit in the Next Global Financial Meltdown, by David Wiedemer, Robert A. Wiedemer and Cindy Spitzer. BTW, the authors recommend physical metal, to dump any whole life insurance, to sell most physical possessions off (you can re-buy them later at a cheaper price) and diamonds (which I disagree with)). By controlling the money and money supply, TPTB will gain further control over people - especially if it's electronic.

One of the things that ObamaCare did was to grant the government access to all bank accounts and the power to seize the same.

[RMorgan]

I´ve bought myself a good piece of land here in Brazil, with a lot of water, just I case. If anything happens, I´ll just move there with my best friends and family and start a living in the old hippie style, growing our own food and sharing tasks.

I just hope that this thing doesn´t turn out like some Mad Max stuff, where people get crazy and you have to arm yourself to the teeth to protect you family from cannibals and hard core criminals...

If you haven´t done it yet, get yourself a piece of land with it´s own water source.

[ceetee9]

Another very useful post viking, thank you.

Whether the economic collapse is inevitable or not is anybody's guess. My guess is that it is inevitable and that it will happen soon. And I further believe that the PTB engineered it all along. What better way to eliminate hundreds of millions of people than by assuring them everything will be okay as they set in motion their plan to pull the rug out from under us and then sit back and watch us kill each other off attempting to survive. Plausible deniability is a wonderful strategic tactic. When the dust settles the PTB simply rush back in to save the remaining few hundred million people and, voila, they are the saviors and elevated right back to the top of the totem pole.

As far as these types of posts being fear-mongering, it all depends on you, the receiver of the message. If you live in fear and interpret any negative information received as something intended to make you cower and feel helpless then that's what you will do. And, no doubt, there are those who understand this and will use this technique for just such a purpose (e.g., government and religious leaders).

If, on the other hand, you choose not to live in fear and can consider the source and use discernment to decide whether the negative information is intended to scare you into behaving a particular way, or if it is intended to inform you about something real, or possible, so that you can plan accordingly to deal with the situation should it manifest, then you at least have been made aware of the possibilities and have a choice as to how to handle the information. I prefer not to live in fear and appreciate being made aware of potentialities so that I can decide for myself whether the information is true, false, or a possibility and act accordingly--and I hope that most people feel the same way.

Speaking strictly for myself, when I present negative information to family and friends it is out of love and concern for them and my intention is always to inform and encourage them to do their own research so they can decide for themselves how much, if any, of the information is true.

[Martin]

Basically the economic collapse has already happend it just keeps going collapsing, because ... well because it can. Most people still believe in the system as in a system designed to work for them when in reality this is not the case and it never was. What we are experiencing since decades is a tip-toe collapse. We are prepared for it to happen some day and till this day "officially" is upon us the living standards of the western civilizations will be on par with most of Africa and the rest of the world. I mean, most of the sovereign states in the world are so bankrupt that we actually are in need of a new word for it, because how bankrupt can it get? In the end it's the masses decision to keep alive our current system. Mostly out of comfort, but that is changing fast. Sure, we are not doomed, we could and most liklely will cope with what is coming, but it will hurt and sadly I think it has to.

MfG

Martin

[Arrowwind]

No offense to the OP but I have heard this same tiresome proclamation OVER and OVER and OVER.

It is fearmongering, plain and simple!

If the economy collapses (or has it or will it or I don't ****ing know?), it's not the end of the world altogether. We will need to find alternate forms of worth, perhaps a different type of currency or bartering or whatnot.

I would love a reality where I no longer have to work a crappy 10 to 6 job to prop up an economy/political system/tax system that is always on the verge of failure. I'd rather be doing something that utilizes my talents and doesn't require endless amounts of fiat currency to sustain.

I do not see any of this as fear mongering.. Fear is in the eyes of the beholder... as simple as that.

Change stimulates fear in many people.

Information and the understanding of potential realities can only benefit those who have critical thinking skills.

Personally, I doubt we will have a total economic collapse, although because the potential reality exists in a strong way, we prepare.
I have prepared for a number of things though out my life. If I had been at the right place at the right time, or wrong place, depending on how you look at it, it would have been clearly seen to be wise to do so. I follow my intuition and stay away from fault lines that rumble too much, flood planes and downwind of nuclear plants.

I am not so concerned with a new currency these days as I once was. All money is fiat money. It always will be. There is not enough gold and silver in the world to support daily trade. It is all a belief system, as surely as you sitting in your kitchen drinking your coffee is founded on a belief system... as is your soul presence on this planet. Beliefs create much of our reality. Why so many fear shifting belief systems I don't understand. Money is a group consensus on the value of a trade represented by an object to reflect that value... a dollar bill, or yen or whatever.

The path on planet earth has always been difficult for most. Empires rise and empires fall. People are born and people die. Pain and suffering occur and pain and suffering is healed. Every single one of us signed on for the ride when we came here. If you doubt your immortality and know not who you really are I guess that could cause some fear.

[blake]

I would love a reality where I no longer have to work a crappy 10 to 6 job to prop up an economy/political system/tax system that is always on the verge of failure. I'd rather be doing something that utilizes my talents and doesn't require endless amounts of fiat currency to sustain

Spot on my friend what some people don’t realise is that we are all part of this corrupt system is some way or other

Hello The One,

That we all are part of this corrupt system in some way or another, in my opinion, is where our strength lies, becasue then we can easily take it down by deciding not to be part of the system. But the masses can only do that if individuals have the objectivity of acknowledging to themselves how they are part of the corrupt system, or at least acknowledge to themselves how they continuely contribute or feed the corrupt system. Once individuals face the truth of their actions of being part of the corrupt system in some way. then the individual needs to strategize, and develop the courage to discouple from any action that ties them to the corrupt system. This they probably won't do. becasue it is too hard . Plus they will most likely rationalize that it will not be worth it, or to let someone else fight their fight. I know many humans who will point a finger and say where the fault lies. I know few honest, and brave souls who will look at themselves and their daily actions honestly and stop contributing to the problems. Rationalizations of the average human of why they must shop at Wal Mart, eat poor quality food, do not practice jury nullification, use the banks services on a daily basis, (credit cards, personal checks etc ) is one huge reason why the PTB can control the masses so easily. When humans start looking at their own actions in relation to the issues they complain about, and stop their daily rationalizations of why they do not decouple from the corruption no matter how slight, then that individual continues to direct power to the ptb instead of the individual. If the masses directed power away from the ptb and learned how to do it on a daily basis, then maybe just maybe history will stop repeating itself with the continuing tale of the mega rich and powerful vs your everyday human.

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis