David Icke and Jordan Maxwell in conversation - a new video

[Bill Ryan]

Dear Friends,

BROTHERS IN ARMS

David Icke and Jordan Maxwell in conversation about the agenda to control Planet Earth, meeting again for the first time in 15 years. Wonderful stuff.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gRTS-Zsd6ZM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRTS-Zsd6ZM

[Baelsfire]

Downloading now! This should be a good watch! Many thanks Bill :)

[777]

You really spoil us Bill, thank you so much. And well done on getting these two together the way you have, the world is a better place for it. ;)

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Bill great work bringing it all home for us all. Top notch on all recent interviews!

Thank you :)

[DoctorWho]

So Bill, what would be the correct or best viewing order with this trilogy of interviews?
Bill "the Doctor"

[illuminate]

EXCELLENT videos Bill... they just keep getting better!
very cool to see David and Jordan engaged in such a candid conversation.
THX for all your hard work!!!

[Swami]

Excellent material......

Chapeau Monsieur Ryan.......:hat:

[Etherios]

i like that Icke looks this as more energetic and Maxwell from the physical view. They both say the same just on a different lvl. you guys agree?

[Giusmar]

Synchronized and winning!

[shiva777]

I appreciate Maxwell for his exposure of the Reptilian control system and the earthly minions(Illuminati) that serve them but it is obvious from this interview that ,as happens with so many conspiracy researchers,he got lost in the earthly aspects of life and neglected to nurture the spiritual aspects of life enough to tune in to what his Higher Selves are up to.Icke also comes at it form a limited spiritual understanding.

First thing to realise is that the dimensions have been corrupted from very high dimensional levels...many say 11th,9th,7th etc,,,Icke seems to be on the 5D -paradise trip where he thinks the 5D level is heavenly...this is an illuminati new-age agenda distortion hoping to subdue people in to a bigger cage of 5D entrapment...this ascension cycle is about ASCENDING OUT OF DIMENSIONALISATION,not being confined to another cage(5D) that might look and feel prettier in many ways but is still a trap

Icke and Maxwell also don't seem to be AWARE that we each have aspects of ourselves in all of these higher dimensions also...we have our I AM Presence(8D level) and our AVATAR SELF (12D level) and GODSELF(beyond dimensions,individual and at ONE with Source)...and we are each doing our work at those levels....they don't realise that there are many incarnates here now who are either walk-ins of their Higher aspects or other Higher Beings and also many,many are in touch with their Avatar selves CONCIOUSLY and it's about each of us creating a handshake with our Higher Aspects so we can work CONCIOUSLY together,,there are many now who ARE AWARE of what they are doing in the Higher Dimensions and they realise that what they do on this earth is an extension and a support for what they are doing in this dimension...it's not such a mystery or guesswork as Icke and Maxwell think it is for many here..it's about AWARENESS.They are both coming at it from a limited lkevel of concious awareness,Icke a little more aware then Maxwell

.... stargates,timeline collapses,Host Matrix's and so much more are being more and more understood and CONCIOUSLY worked with at this time..

for those who are interested in these things and wish to work with people who are more concious of such things I highly recommend you check out
www.energeticsynthesis.com and www.azuritepress.com and waut for Ashayana Deanes interview soon to be released on proj Camelot...Ascension is a SCIENCE and if you don't understand the science and don't have AWARENESS beyond the 5 senses you end up with lots of guesswork and can be easily mislead

[Moxie]

Shiva, I've appreciated many of your posts, but I don't know what you are saying other than what they are implying..... there is NO hope any longer for this planet, this 3D realm.

Asha, and am I very interested in her work, don't get me wrong... but she says the same...
the planet is a goner and it's time to learn the art of dieing properly so that we will not end up in another plane such as this any longer.

My point in this post is that there IS no remedy for the knarly mess we find this world in...
it's too late to stop the domino effect. It's THAT out of control. I cannot deceive myself to think that "we will work it out"...

Do you think that I am mistaken? I'm talking about continuity of life on this planet, not that we are eternal beings.

You wrote: ..." in touch with their Avatar selves CONCIOUSLY and it's about each of us creating a handshake with our Higher Aspects so we can work CONCIOUSLY together,,there are many now who ARE AWARE of what they are doing in the Higher Dimensions and they realise that what they do on this earth is an extension and a support for what they are doing in this dimension.."

What does that have to do with overcoming the state of our situations here on this planet?
I'm not talking our higher levels of being... I'm talking about where we are now here on this planet earth...

It does seem the only "out" is preparing to be out! hear me?
Is this the point? There's nothing to be done about our situation here???

maybe I'm dim today... excuse me this!

[Etherios]

wow you sure seem sure about all these. So what you see will happen in the near future will human escape this fate? Icke is sure Maxwell is still worried. You?

[tron]

I believe we are in a school.
The louder the darkness the more you should love that darkness.
There is no loosing this game, there's just the choice to love all or not.
You are recording all your life in your heart. When you die you face it all.
I realize this now more then ever.
The more i love the better my life after death experiance (and life on earth experiance) will be and is.
I will die with love in my heart. I will live with love in my heart. I will not fear "death" of my "body" or of the "death" others as this is all a school.

im sure someone can nit pick this idea im finally getting but its only because my typing is slow and your not here to look into my eyes and FEEL what im saying with your heart.


david seems to understand this love.
maxi seems to be alittle blinded by fear.

i love you all


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlFCfkyuQM0

[TheChosen]

That was a great video although it is clear Jordan is a bit behind on the understanding about the way reality manifests through all the densities ... then again David Icke is also a bit behind when compared to the details given by the Law of One and Seth Speaks

What I really want to see now is a debate between David Icke and David Willcock on the NWO factions and the truth behind Obama.

[Moxie]

It's clear that we are all insane.

[greybeard]

It's clear that we are all insane.

Hi Moxie my friend.
Where there is life there is hope.
Leaving aside all talk of spirituality ascension the works.
I am not the lest bit concerned for the future of you and I on this earth.
We have seen compassion in action step by step.
We just keep it simple.
I tell you we are survivors we will make it through whatever comes on this earth.
The future is mystery the past history.
We have now we are ok.
With love for you Chris

[truthseekerdan]

I found this video appropriate to watch for this thread. Enjoy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4XxMVH9hmk&NR=1

[shiva777]

one of the biggest misunderstandings is that it's all simple and God will wave his magic wand and 2012 will come around and all will be well...there are many.many people doing very involved and complex work in conciousness on EARTH in many dimensions so that the God currents can be anchored here so that we are freed of all the atomic harnessing,holographic distortions,mind control technolgies feeding off religious worshippers...and a million other things...the more people who wake up to these more complex levels of "lightwork" the more people will be able to be hosted out of this distorted hologram...

there is NO VALUE difference in those who are attempting to take the "keep it simple and just be love" approach and those who are working with their higher aspects conciously to realign and counteract negative forces in the Higher Dimensions through very focused and ascension science approaches ..t BOTH groups are needed as are many other groups.

...the sad thing is that the people who are taking the "keep it simple" approach are not aware that if everyone just "kept it simple" they would keep following this current timeline which leads to the "love,light and clueless" 5D earth that the hijacked new-age most often promotes.....so we need both people who "keep it simple" and those who are working on the levels that many of the "keep it simple" crowd are not aware of.....and much of the "keep it simple" crowd won't get what I just wrote but those who are aware of the very necessary and involved God technology work being done will get it...God Source needs some technicians and some energy holders,that's just the way it is

[Bill Ryan]

What I really want to see now is a debate between David Icke and David Willcock on the NWO factions and the truth behind Obama.

David Wilcock will not speak to David Icke : DW believes he is negative.

He may well have changed his mind recently (if so, I'm not yet aware of it), but this was his position when Kerry and I first met and interviewed David Icke a little over a year ago.

[Scott]

David Wilcock will not speak to David Icke : DW believes he is negative.

He may well have changed his mind recently (if so, I'm not yet aware of it), but this was his position when Kerry and I first met and interviewed David Icke a little over a year ago.

Oh ya David Icke is about as negative as a bright sunny day in the tropics, sitting on the beach with a cool breeze blowing & Hawaiian Steel drums playing in the background :p

Btw Bill that conversation was on my "Want to see before I die" list, Thanks
*scratches another off the list*

[merecat]

Moving along on this journey is so cool. Thanks Bill for all you do.

[ExHaLaTiON]

what i'm reading from this convo between jorden and david is that david is reading the game from outside the box and jorden is readiing the game from inside the box. two different languages and important information and pieces of the puzzle we all are trying the put together. everyone has more or even less of the pieces but they are all out there. the tricky part is believing in the pieces you obtain to make a fit.

[stardustaquarion]

one of the biggest misunderstandings is that it's all simple and God will wave his magic wand and 2012 will come around and all will be well...there are many.many people doing very involved and complex work in conciousness on EARTH in many dimensions so that the God currents can be anchored here so that we are freed of all the atomic harnessing,holographic distortions,mind control technolgies feeding off religious worshippers...and a million other things...the more people who wake up to these more complex levels of "lightwork" the more people will be able to be hosted out of this distorted hologram...

there is NO VALUE difference in those who are attempting to take the "keep it simple and just be love" approach and those who are working with their higher aspects conciously to realign and counteract negative forces in the Higher Dimensions through very focused and ascension science approaches ..t BOTH groups are needed as are many other groups.

...the sad thing is that the people who are taking the "keep it simple" approach are not aware that if everyone just "kept it simple" they would keep following this current timeline which leads to the "love,light and clueless" 5D earth that the hijacked new-age most often promotes.....so we need both people who "keep it simple" and those who are working on the levels that many of the "keep it simple" crowd are not aware of.....and much of the "keep it simple" crowd won't get what I just wrote but those who are aware of the very necessary and involved God technology work being done will get it...God Source needs some technicians and some energy holders,that's just the way it is

Hi Shiva, Asha has not said as far as I know, since her last published video (FOL2010) that the world will end in 2012. There will be changes of course subtle and earth changes but not the end of the world.

Love the interview by the way, thank you Bill

Cheers

[TheChosen]

David Wilcock will not speak to David Icke : DW believes he is negative.

He may well have changed his mind recently (if so, I'm not yet aware of it), but this was his position when Kerry and I first met and interviewed David Icke a little over a year ago.

Thats a bit unfortunate. I just got David Icke's new book and there is a wealth of information that I am sure DW would greatly appreciate because it so well compliments his own and goes into so much detail when history, the reptilians and the NWO is concerned. It is true that the view of David Icke on the NWO is a lot more black&white than the one of DW but I'd hardly call that a negative stance.

In any case.. a great idea of bringing up great people together for a 'conversation'.. it produces a lot different information then when it is 'just' an interview. I know it must be difficult logistically but I am sure more such pairings (more than 2 would loose the plot) would produce excellent new information.

Thanks Bill, we really appreciate

[Jake]

Perhaps we are seeing a new trend. It used to really anoy me how great minds in the (former) UFO community could not come together like this and put the bickering aside and concentrate. These gentlemen are leading by example. Bravo!

[Majorion]

Maxwell speaking angels and demons, considering he was at the Vatican recently, a true Robert Langdon. David speaking of the holographic construct (great stuff as always), but I think if this were a contest, Jordan surpassed David just a little bit here, though both are equally superb. Great interview.

[shiva777]

yeah stardust,I didn't mean to make it sound that way...here is what Ash has said about 2012 and the coming years

http://www.azuritepress.com/New%20Comers/intro_topic_summary_2.php

[irishspirit]

Bill, yet again. Fantastic, quality work. Second to none!

Icke and Maxwell both know their stuff from their own point of view. However, whilst it can be seen as two different points off view, when looked at really, they got the same massage as each other.

Bill you keep this up pal.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

My wife commented yesterday as she overheard part of the 20 minute audio between David and Jordan I was trying to listen to, that..... "Why don't all you lot, you, James, David Icke and all the others, all get together in a casual Q and A and talk freely openly about your experiences and knowledge". I thought on it then told her it would be nigh impossible, even the logistics would be a nightmare, and of course some would proclaim superior knowledge and status within the community anyways, causing a few rifts LOL

[Snowbird]

This conversational combination of Icke and Maxwell was more than interesting to experience. They are each masters in their chosen topic fields and each is accustom to being prime speaker and educator.

I have watched the vids and listened to the audio and continue on a path of respect for their expertise.

I am really interested in Maxwell's Vatican tour video. Talk about someone being simultaneously in and out of their element!!! :eek:

[SPIRIT WOLF]

No doubt other experts, all in one place would equally be of interest?

[Tuza]

My wife commented yesterday as she overheard part of the 20 minute audio between David and Jordan I was trying to listen to, that..... "Why don't all you lot, you, James, David Icke and all the others, all get together in a casual Q and A and talk freely openly about your experiences and knowledge". I thought on it then told her it would be nigh impossible, even the logistics would be a nightmare, and of course some would proclaim superior knowledge and status within the community anyways, causing a few rifts LOL

I thought exactly the same as your wife Barry but then as you said, I thought hang on a minute, there are some based in the States, some UK and other places so getting you all in the one spot at the same time would be difficult. It would be great if Bill could get an interview with you and (my mind has gone blank now comes with the age Barry, I am one year behind you in age), James is it I forget his other name and maybe Icke. So maybe an interview with the people based in UK might be easier, do you think that would work. That would be good.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Sounds good to me if it were feasible

[tone3jaguar]

I found it a little perplexing that an individual with the seasoned highly effective communication skills of Maxwell kept going back and making the same point over and over. That point being about the negative vs. positive ET war. I can understand bringing the perspective up, but why go back to it so many times?

[Etherios]

I found it a little perplexing that an individual with the seasoned highly effective communication skills of Maxwell kept going back and making the same point over and over. That point being about the negative vs. positive ET war. I can understand bringing the perspective up, but why go back to it so many times?

Simple. Icke was talking about the vibrations and it is like we are not in a real war its all feelings and vibrations. Maxwell was trying to emfasize that we are in a state of war... its all around us we just dont see it. its the same thing from different views.

Icke sees it purely vibrational and energetic, Maxwell sees it more physical. They both say the same thing but to many ppl that listen to them ickes aproach is far harder to understand and grasp.

So when Maxwell was repeating about this war and that things arent set on stone ... we can win this if we try, Icke was saying the same thing with the turning point in vibrations and the end of this slavery.

Hope i helped

[John Parslow]

Dear Friends,

BROTHERS IN ARMS

David Icke and Jordan Maxwell in conversation about the agenda to control Planet Earth, meeting again for the first time in 15 years. Wonderful stuff.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gRTS-Zsd6ZM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRTS-Zsd6ZM


Hello Bill

Thank you so much for your inspired pairing of David Icke and Jordan Maxwell, I am full of admiration and respect for all of you gentlemen, I am sure you are all Angels in the true sense of the word.

I first saw David on the now notorious Wogan ‘chat show’ and was so depressed to see him publicly vilified for his beliefs by an individual not worthy to ‘wash his feet’. Since that time David has blossomed into a true warrior for the forces of good.

My introduction to Jordan was through the auspices of your excellent Project Camelot with the beautiful and very incisive Kerry Cassidy. Jordan is an excellent crusader for the forces of good and another very brave man, I look forward to further disclosures from both of these outstanding human beings. I send my heartfelt thanks and wish you all love and peace as you take us all forward into the next paradigm.

John Parslow

[savvys84]

Heck. Cant watch videos with a dial up. But transcripts unfortunately, no new ones for a long time now.
Nonetheless thanks and keep up the good work.

Cheers

[the_IRF]

Thank you Bill, David and Jordan;

David registers the smell of the NEW STORY’s arrival. Everyone thinks this is the anticipated New Age awakening. This is not, however, the “We are all One – The Universe is all tied together – Avatar movie” Age of Aquarius memory of the false-dimension’s “old story”.

In the NEW STORY of real dimensions, there is only ONE. There you center on self [as opposed to being self-centered] within a singular ‘mass-consciousness’ of various ‘energy-feeling-shapes’ that are the energy-level expression of through forms that qualify to be there. The thought form of Man [which doesn’t look anything like a humanoid Being] is one of those thought forms that qualify. It has never successfully been done before. This place… this false-dimension… this experiment was supposed to demonstrate the success of that Man expression on a stage were all the other previously qualified thought forms were to attend in congress as chorus, as upon a Broadway play’s stage.

But I am so excited that David registers the early smell of the NEW STORY…

Acknowledgement should properly be given to the strife and struggle of Jordan’s Experience… the ‘war’… as brilliantly portrayed and carried forth by actors burnishing their respective evil Backside-Black, or conversely, those actors burnishing their good Frontside-White. [Esoterically, one’s front cannot outweigh your back, or you cannot be balanced and will fall on your face.]

The whole of the ‘war’ thing was just another venue to ensure the ‘survival’ of the “old story”. Most important to this survival requirement was - fomenting the ever recapitulating Genesis Cycles of the Planet… to produce ever more timeline possibilities… as the “old story” continued to search for a way to Express the dynamic of real-balance needed for the experiment to qualify as a success and pass muster to get it occupancy permit for real-dimension from the inspector… the “boss”-gear.

To forward the initiation of any Genesis Cycle beginning, a Phoenix Phase ending is needed for a previous gestation… the Planet-X (Nibiru) tectonic plate upheaval. To have this, the planet’s mantel fires need to be hot. To cause for that a lot of Contained Energy is needed as coal. To produce the excess coal, the games of local war and the galactic level ‘war’ are needed too. It was all just a charade… played out unknowingly by all at any false-dimensional level of physicality’s consciousness. Only the stimulus concept and energy assigned to produce this experiment understood the requirement for this. They had not out. The only had the memo to express this experiment’s concept. There was no codicil allowing for nullification of the experiment if the “boss”-gear failed to show up for an inspection tour in a timely manner. So… the survival of the illusion became the overarching dynamic after the rudiments of this places architecture was expressed.
But how could any of you know any of this… you couldn’t… no one does…

Sorry for prattling on and introducing something that would have to be challenging to the accepted comprehensions and thoughtform expectations that have been going forward under the “old story” contract…

There is much more, if anyone is interested… but first I must earn my stripes to qualify to post new threads or introduce new theme topics…

Until then…

Thanks again Bill, David and Jordan and so many more of you all… it really has been a thankless job assignment you all have had… even though you don’t and can’t really know what I am really speaking to. Still, you all have done admirable work and will all be getting your tickets to go home to the Union Hall of energy in real-dimensions.

Oh, yes. The good news is that all your outstanding bar tabs at the tavern have been taken care of… and when you get home the “boss”-gear has even learned to hang out and to tell jokes now… sort of… Well, at least we have all learned that it really likes running gages and likes the tavern… a lot ! ! !

[Moemers]

No doubt other experts, all in one place would equally be of interest?

While the logistics of having EVERY expert or speaker in one place having a huge round table (haha) are improbable, getting a few together at a time like this JM/DI video is intriguing and worth a look into.

[Revenge24]

Thanks Bill. Is there any way I can download this as an MP4 file? YouTube isn't currently working for me :)

[Kimberley]

Hi you will find a link to an MP4 file on this page...
http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/david_icke_jordan_maxwell_en.html

All of the interviews give you that option..

Enjoy

[11alone]

Awesome! Enjoyed this video very much, Very much appreciated:), Thanks Bill.

[Nolan34]

Incredible information. I'm still new on the scene but I'm slowly connecting the dots. Thank you Bill. Your efforts seem tireless and are much appreciated.

By the way, I just finished a book called The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot. He talks about vibrations and the holographic nature of our interpretation of reality just as Icke does. Excellent stuff.

[DevilPigeon]

That was the first book I read that offered an alternative/non-mainstream viewpoint... It was recommended by a workmate of mine at the time, he was into all this weird 'bull****' (as I thought it all was at the time, I freely admit)... But that book, along with 'Fight Club' (which he also recommended!), turned my thought process round totally.

If it weren't for my friend, I'd not be as up-to-speed as I am now... And even now I'm a good few laps behind most.

[Jules]

Dear Friends,

BROTHERS IN ARMS

David Icke and Jordan Maxwell in conversation about the agenda to control Planet Earth, meeting again for the first time in 15 years. Wonderful stuff.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gRTS-Zsd6ZM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRTS-Zsd6ZM

In my mind, I see Jordan seeing the glass half empty, and David seeing the glass half full. And that made all the difference.
In mhy m