guilt

[manny]

i feel so guilty.
why?.
because i feel that all that i learned and try to share.
is laughed at as nonsense.
this not only comes from friends,work colleagues but also loved ones ,family members.
i feel as if i am waking up,but when i try to explain certain subjects it becomes difficult.
i realize we are all on our own journeys.
but how hard is it to have believes that your own family disregard.
so i stopped talking to them about my alliterative view points.
but feel it so frustrating.
in my heart i know all will be well,but is it not better to share a journey than walk it alone.
the truth shall set you free.
i just hope it comes sooner than later.

i try to feel indifferent to other peoples views to me.(those that have not yet awoke)
i,m not saying that i am awake but i,m sure i,m on the right path.
sometimes i fell ok and everything will roll out as it should be and sometimes i feel guilt,or selfish ,as people who disrepect my views i give up on.i just think it,s their journey and i,m on mine.
but how hard can it be....
last month i felt indifferent,nothing matters ect.
today i feel guilt for not trying hard enough to wake my family up.
mood swings ...i don,t know?
any advice would be welcome .
thank you.

[Marikins]

Hi Manny,
I know just how you feel, but you aren't alone here, and I think people will be waking up very soon. Hang in there. You just set your alarm a little earlier than they did! ;)

[Jake]

Manny, hello. I often feel the same way. I learned that, instead of having sadness and/or guilt for others, i will instead attempt to eminate love and excitement knowing that at some point, these folks have some AMAZING experiences ahead of them. It IS much better to share a journey than to walk alone. Jake.

[_original_Starlight]

Dear One

Yes it is very recognisable ( is this good english?) well I recognise it! But when you accept that everybody is entitled to walk their own path and their own pace...
we can go to empathic with loosing our won strength in our own rightfullness!! Hold you Power but be empatic and give the other ones undertanding...we all have been on the place of the road where they are now!
And what Inelia says: when it is difficult to share this in 3D....talk to the other ones Higher Self...I have tried and done this many times and it helped. It gave me a less frustated feeling, the right and wrong disapeared...there was just "its all ok there is enough LOVE cause LIFE is LOVE" and sometimes it took some years in 3D life before things "suddenly"shifted sometimes
it was done in a few weeks. Let go of that time expectation wish.......Stay focused on your own space and strength and do NOT forget humor !!!

Love and Light and MIght for co-creation
Starlight

[Davidallany]

Society polices itself, it's has been designed over time this way by TPTB. You have the power to create your own reality.
hcoKOPmDyZ4

[manny]

Society polices itself, it's has been designed over time this way by TPTB. You have the power to create your own reality.
hcoKOPmDyZ4
ok can,t watch your video yet, listening to a interview.
so what reality have you chosen?
what makes it for you?
have you actually changed your reality?

[Jayke]

I choose to live like an eagle and my reality is definitely changing to be more in alignment with those beliefs, the mind can adapt in an instant yet reality tends to lag constantly behind, it's like the tortoise and the hare, the hare always makes it to the finish line first then you have to sit around patiently for the tortoise to catch up...as you see it approaching though everything does start to seem that much more magical. There's a story I heard a while ago now that sums up most peoples attitude towards reality:


A man found an eagle's egg and put it in a nest of a barnyard hen. The eaglet hatched with the brood of chicks and grew up with them. All his life the eagle did what the barnyard chicks did, thinking he was a barnyard chicken. He scratched the earth for worms and insects. He clucked and cackled. And he would thrash his wings and fly a few feet into the air.

Years passed and the eagle grew very old. One day he saw a magnificent bird above him in the cloudless sky. It glided in graceful majesty among the powerful wind currents, with scarcely a beat on his strong golden wings. The old eagle looked up in awe. "Who's that?" he asked. "That's the eagle, the king of the birds," said his neighbour. "He belongs to the sky. We belong to the earth - we're chickens." So the eagle lived and died a chicken, for that's what he thought he was.

Anthony de Mello (1931 - 1987) Jesuit Priest

Only people who are looking for a way out of the chicken pen will be receptive to your new views and states of being...most people are more than willing to live and die as chickens because they've been so heavily conditioned to believe that way of seeing the world that they've integrated it into their identities...years of living like a chicken prevents them from seeing beyond their own internal self concepts, anything that comes along to challenge that will be attacked as a threat to their sense of self.

Part of developing your prajna wisdom is the ability through experience to be able to discern which people already have cracks forming within the concepts of their mind, look for the people who have been scratching away beneath the surface for a different way of doing things, people for whom the cracks are already allowing in light. then all it takes is for someone like you to come along and with your divine fire burning brightly, they'll be able to see your brightness through the cracks and they'll be mysteriously drawn to you...then through the gentle nudging, poking and prodding of their beliefs you'll be able to chip away at the cracks slowly letting in more and more light until suddenly the walls crumble and they begin to see a clear glimpse of what exists beyond the veil of illusion.

It takes skillful and patient means in order to wake people up, opening a persons mind is like exercising a new muscle, it only grows a little bit each day, if you put too much weight on it in one sitting you'll just rip the tendons, it requires a slow adding of weight over time to give the muscle time to adjust to the new ways in which it's being worked. People who are more spiritually aware though are much better to work with...their minds embrace new concepts at lightning speeds yet you still have to give them enough time to incorporate those insights into their experiences before you can give them the next piece. The Greek mystery schools talk of their being three truths...'truth, truer truth and truest truth'...only when a person who has seen the truth will he be able to see a truer truth and only when they find several truer truths will they be able to comprehend the truest truths.
It's like climbing a mountain, people at the foot of the hill will have a completely different perspective than those who are already at the top. A person at the top sees a clear vision of all the beauty that surrounds them, whereas a person at the bottom will only see rocks and rubble.

As a person who is bringing the fire so to speak, you just have to be very patient and keep quiet about your new perspectives until someone comes along who is ready to be inspired by your experiences...it can be a very testing time...out of my entire family I only have a brother, a cousin and my girlfriend who are able to see life outside of the chicken hutch. You just have to keep working on burning your inner fire more and more intensely so that you'll start to be noticed by others who are energised on the same level of awareness and after time your social circle begins to expand. This forum has been an enormous help for me in that regard, works as a great place to ground your truths and share your treasures with people, whatever it is you may have discovered along the way.

[Hamish]

Your not alone.
You will never be alone.
People will laugh.
People will raise their eyebrows.
Be glad of the internet.
Be glad of this forum.
Be glad of the knowledge you hold.
Be glad that one day these individuals will know the truth and you will be able to talk on the same level.

[Davidallany]

Of course I have manny. I did it through loving myself, respecting myself, and having boundless compassion for all aspects of it, for that I have lost all fear about events and people, and only love, respect, compassion and patience remained, by being the change I want to see in the world, and that has created a reflection. David Icke also talks about this.

[Jake]

I was listening to the latest Interview with Inelia and Rene Lucia... Rene asked Inelia this question, and they explored this issue. Her answers were much the same as ours. She added that sometimes when talking with someone who is not awake and/or aware, try speaking 'directly to their higher selves'. Many times 'little me' will not respond, but they are in their somewhere! Their higher selves!!! And they are listening... She added to 'always show love and care'.

Do listen to the interview.. there is another thread about it, but here is the link. (thanks, Limor) http://www.heartbeatofkauai.com/ads/inelia-benz-joins-free-teleconference-9am-sat-7-9-11/

[Rocky_Shorz]

some people don't understand higher self but if their angels are listening they will share the message...


some times it is just in the delivery and knowing your audience... ;)


ps. words don't need to be spoken for the angels to hear...

[Rocky_Shorz]

walk into the room with your family and stand with your mouth hanging, when they ask why say " can't you see her? there is an angel standing right there..."

she says we need to build an ark...

then wink, pretend it never happened and sit down to join their conversation... ;)

[truthseekerdan]

Dear Manny,

Hope you're not going to take this suggestions in a 'negative way'. :)
Release from guilt is the beginning-of-the-end of an unbalanced ego. Guilt has kept us in the dark by wrapping us in our own phantom faults. To have guilt is to have interference without release. A mind filled with guilt is a mind that is closed and separate from truth.

The only state that is free and separate from an inflated ego is the state of being without guilt. To be without guilt is to be whole and by being whole, we are guilt free and happy. Freedom and happiness are not causes but effects. They are a result of making the right decisions. By choosing to be free of guilt, we are happy to be guiltless.

Much Love to you and yours, ~ Dan

[king anthony]

...try to share... ...is laughed at as nonsense... ...i realize we are all on our own journeys... ...the truth shall set you free... ...i try to feel indifferent to other peoples views to me.(those that have not yet awoke)... ...i,m not saying that i am awake but i,m sure i,m on the right path... ...last month i felt indifferent,nothing matters ect... ...today i feel guilt for not trying hard enough to wake my...

I say, the same is everywhere such as here in Project Avalon; including ignore fact and accept fiction; for many do so when there is no feel good attached or it challenges what makes them feel good. The “social programming/conditioning" has many believe that one’s life journey and truth are the same – they are not, for each lives their life but truth is common ground.

I say, that which may set you free may be the same that has one walking alone; for most do not seek truth, only that of comfort. The conflict (guilt) felt comes from knowing that one cannot respect untruths as truths or promote such; for the truth, known or not (to one), will always be there challenging lies.

Know that, all may have potential but most do not have ability to know or understand; this is clear when most will not let go that which makes them feel good, which has nothing to do with truth - this is clear when the some of the most say “I am awake” when they are truly asleep - this is clear knowing that the cycle that has been many times before appears to be once again, for most are doing, believing and saying the same things as before.

And as before, some of the most eagerly wait for the time to come; without truly knowing what waits – for the “social conditioning/programming”, beliefs systems and deceptions have the “sleeping sheep” primed with falsehood and that which makes them feel good. I say, be careful what one asks for... as they may get it.

[christian]

Guilt is a mind trick, if you figured you were wrong on something, change what you can right now, forgive yourself, set things straight. - The punishment for past failures comes naturally, without the need for this nasty extra called 'guilt'.

When it comes to folks, who don't want to wake up to certain things (free will!), the more you try to make them, the more they will harden up.
When you work on raising awareness, making many little contacts is better than focusing on very few persons who are hardly receptive. Move along in a subtle and flexible way, to maintain a state of joy while doing it, enjoying what you do is essential for a positive outcome. If you don't enjoy what you do, don't try harder, do something else ;)

Indefference won't help you out, rather learn your lesson from your experiences and at the same time don't be attached to what you experience, then you can take all the heat and stupidity from folks without judging them, without being hurt, just realising that they act this way because they are at another level of understanding and awareness than you are.

Keep smiling and doing your thing :)

[lightwalker]

I once heard that guilt is really the opposite of love and not fear......so when I feel guilty (about anything) I know that I am just not loving of myself and decide to.....well, love myself.

lightwalker

[58andfixed]

i feel so guilty.
why?.


If frustrated, or using other 'coping' mechanisms, perhaps it is simply an indication that it is a good time to ask bigger questions.

Perhaps the 'hidden agenda' isn't about population reduction or wealth transfer.

Perhaps more needs to be read, questioned and inquired into, and then discerned & understood.

Perhaps how we think needs to be more closely examined, so that reluctance and denial behaviors can be anticipated and recognized, and offered 'pearls of perspective' avoided.

Perhaps the practicing of an improved version of collaboration needs to be discovered, understood & experienced.

Perhaps, then, maybe, one can recognize who to dialog with, who to appease, and who to collaborate with.

Perhaps, then, maybe, the solution that needs to be discovered, understood and experienced will be discerned.

For now, I suspect too many think they know, and yet are not sufficiently informed.

At least a growing mass of questions & curious minded has been initiated.

For that I am grateful.

In the meantime, practice the frequent art of Big Medicine.

I think the best compass we have lies within, and not on pages that use words.

Information is simply the beginning.

Comprehension, discernment, understanding and just what 'The Problem' is and potential solutions are, needs to fit more & a broader range of issues.

I find most opinions are simply reactions to the information often recently discovered.

Innocent ignorance and malevolent intent can both simply stir a reaction of fear.

Fear isn't a solution.

- 58

[from_Brzil]

I once heard that guilt is really the opposite of love and not fear......so when I feel guilty (about anything) I know that I am just not loving of myself and decide to.....well, love myself.

lightwalker

LightWalker... rsrsr.. Your Avatar made me laugh...rsrsrs.. That is so funny... The cat is looking like that little creature... from Gremmlins, I think was called.. kkkk..

Best,
;-)

to you,
Manny,
and ALL..
AV friends.