Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin [Archive] - Page 12

Hervé

2nd April 2012, 17:20

My, my, my... here we go again...

Here is from Ken Adachi, a former devoted Zeta sucker (a certain PT Barnum reckoned there's one born every minute... so it's a never ending story):

I had expected Nancy Leider and Zeta Talk to disappear from the Internet following the 2003 fiasco, but I guess a built up CIA/NASA/military disinformation psyops like Zeta Talk is simply too juicy a scam to just abandon, so they profer a truly moronic and pathetic 'White Lie (http://zetatalk.com/index/psdate2.htm)' excuse to explain away their prediction failure and just move the date up another eleven years to 2012! So we are treated with another eleven years of disinformation nonsense, fear mongering, anxiety promotion, worry promotion, fear of having children born into such a nightmare world, re-locating to remote, bare bones survial locations, etc., etc., for a whole new generation of suckers, rubes, and newbies who will buy into the Zeta Talk lie with the same wide eyed belief that I bought into it between 1995 and 2003, and wind up posting Youtube videos with ingenious sounding explantions of mysterious celestial body movements in the solar system accounting for this or that "HMO" and similar absurdities. .

I've also re-printed the current home page from ZetaTalk further below which includes links to the modified Pole Shift explanation mentioned above and the "White Lie' gambit. Remarkable, Nancy also includes the following statement on her current Zeta Talk (http://zetatalk.com/) home page:

"Note: Where Planet X came into the inner solar system in early 2003, it has not yet passed, though has gone through gyrations while passing the Sun's S Pole and adjusting to the Sun's magnetic field. Some ZetaTalk is best understood in the context of the date written. These topics, below, are organized by date written and should be read in order for a historical perspective. The increase in Earth changes and electromagnetic interference and evidence of Planet X in the inner solar system is palpable. For the very latest ZetaTalk, however, jump to the bottom for news about the current year!"

Here, we witness the lunacy, ridiculousness, and witlessness of Zeta Talk, Nancy Leider, and her handlers in full flower. She reports that this huge red planet, Nibiru, which she and Zeta Talk said was 4 times larger and 23 times more dense than Earth, had ENTERED the earth's solar system in 2003; yet still had not "passed."

How could a 'planet' 4 times larger than earth enter the earth's solar system in 2003 and not be seen by astronomers?

Full article and antecedents here:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/zetatalkrecycleddeception24mar12.shtml

stomy

7th April 2012, 11:02

Antarctic glacier: 85% of its mass has melted
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-le-glacier-de-l-antarctique-85-de-sa-masse-a-fondu-antarctic-glacier-85-of-its-mass-has-melted-102995715.html

2012: University of Hawai: Team of astronomers conclude that Earth usually has more than one moon
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-la-terre-a-generalement-plus-d-une-lune-earth-usually-has-more-than-one-moon-102791829.html

2012: Magnetic storms spotted on Venus
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-les-orages-magnetiques-reperes-sur-venus-magnetic-storms-spotted-on-venus-102961292.html

stomy

6th May 2012, 09:29

Southwest Research Institute: Intense asteroid impacts on Earth, raise questions about the source of impactors
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-d-intenses-impactes-d-asteroides-sur-terre-soulevent-des-questions-sur-la-source-de-ces-elements-i-104232446.html

University of Western Ontario: Astrophysicist uncovers secret origin of brown dwarfs
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-un-astrophysicien-decouvre-l-origine-secrete-de-naines-brunes-astrophysicist-uncovers-secret-origi-104674056.html

Astronauts condemn NASA’s global warming endorsement
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-les-astronautes-de-la-nasa-condamnent-l-approbation-du-rechauffement-climatique-astronauts-condemn-103241282.html

Phoebe, Saturn's moon may have been captured
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-phoebe-la-lune-de-saturne-peut-avoir-ete-capture-phoebe-saturn-s-moon-may-have-been-captured-104234741.html

sdv

6th May 2012, 11:23

This info is definitely worth looking at. Mainstream science, in its quest to find one theory of physics that explains everything, has finally come up with the Standard Theory of Elementary Particles. It is elegant and beautiful in its simplicity, BUT it cannot explain gravity. Well done to McCanney for his work and bah humbug to mainstream scientists who reject his work.

Does our solar system have another sun? I was surprised to find out recently that our solar system is in the small minority in only having one sun - most in the universe have two. This could mean that there is another sun/star in our solar system and we have not found it OR one of the reasons why such a diversity of life flourishes in our solar system (and not only on Earth) is because we only have one sun/star.

The Jesus/Christian aspect of this thread does not resonate with me, but that is because it is not my path and does not align with my vibrational frequency. I hope that this does not make it impossible for me to engage in a conversation with those who are aligned with the Jesus/Christian vibrational frequency.

I read a lot of mainstream science, especially historical stuff, and this is what I have discovered:

Mainstream scientists are often eccentric.
Many theories and discoveries accepted by mainstream scientists come from the work of amateurs (i.e. not in the academic field).
Mainstream scientists do steal each others' work.
Mainstream scientists often get stuck in tunnel vision.
Mainstream scientists often fight with each other (and have even been known to call each other names, such as 'dastardly liar'!) and frequently disagree with each other.
Mainstream scientists will often build an entire theory around one small bit of incomplete evidence (evidence is not proof).

No this does not mean that mainstream scientists are bad and wrong, but I am perplexed at why they absolutely refuse to even acknowledge theories from what is labelled 'fringe science' without valid reason. Anyway, we are lucky we live in a world where we are free to read both mainstream and fringe science and make up our own minds.

Oh and fringe scientists also do all that I list above (mainstream and fringe have a lot in common, and we are all human)!

wynderer

6th May 2012, 11:32

i'm surprised there is so little interest in this thread -- lots of scientific data, which seems to the touchstone for truth for many

Coaxial

6th May 2012, 11:57

wynderer

6th May 2012, 12:09

along biblical lines -- it seems this is a lot like the days of Noah & the great flood -- most are going about eating & drinking & living their daily lives, ignoring the info on this thread, ot the fact that our planet is being silently nuked in various ways

to your list of mainstream scientist traits/characteristics, sdv, i'd like to add that some are disinfo agents as well

Mandala

7th May 2012, 03:30

Stomy, I want to read and study this information and the briefs/abstracts that have been written. It will take a while. Why are you so sure you know the location and time? I thought no man would be allowed to know the dates and times of such "biblical information". I am very interested in the information you have presented.

stomy

7th May 2012, 18:10

i'm surprised there is so little interest in this thread

Do not miss read lack of posting indicating low interest as the lurkers and guest count are fairly steady.

The Jesus/Christian aspect of this thread does not resonate with me, but that is because it is not my path and does not align with my vibrational frequency. I hope that this does not make it impossible for me to engage in a conversation with those who are aligned with the Jesus/Christian vibrational frequency.

Thank you, as this is one of the more diplomatic as well as honest approaches to open and intelligent dialog between people on different paths I have seen displayed here.

No problem, i'm open mind (sdv coaxial)

along biblical lines -- it seems this is a lot like the days of Noah & the great flood -- most are going about eating & drinking & living their daily lives, ignoring the info on this thread, ot the fact that our planet is being silently nuked in various ways

It's true, it's the same phenomen ;) Kolbrin speaks tooo

Stomy, I want to read and study this information and the briefs/abstracts that have been written. It will take a while. Why are you so sure you know the location and time? I thought no man would be allowed to know the dates and times of such "biblical information". I am very interested in the information you have presented.

Tyvm Mandala kiss :)
Alone, God know the dates and times BUT information gathered give an approximative date. i analyze clairvoyance, prophecies, the holy bible, studies. After, a correlation is created with all these elements= the hidden answer
Marc 13.23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
If jesus says it, read the holy bible and interpret scribes ;)
peace & love

stomy

13th May 2012, 08:46

2012: Royal Astronomical Society: A brown dwarf helps reveal giant planets
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-une-naine-brune-permet-de-reveler-des-planetes-geantes-a-brown-dwarf-helps-reveal-giant-planets-105034163.html

1999: University of Louisiana at Lafayette: Cometary evidence of a massive body in the outer Oort cloud
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-cometary-evidence-of-a-massive-body-in-the-outer-oort-cloud-105080170.html

The Kolbrin and Planet X
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-the-kolbrin-and-planet-x-103064529.html

ExomatrixTV

14th May 2012, 06:46

~May 2012 New 'Planet X' Found in Our Solar System? Odd orbits of remote objects hint at unseen world, new calculations suggest: http://goo.gl/zpkXU for the Dutch: http://goo.gl/sllZK

Richard A. Lovett in Timberline Lodge, Oregon
for National Geographic News (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news)
Published May 11, 2012

An as yet undiscovered planet (http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/planets/) might be orbiting at the dark fringes of the solar system (http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/solar-system), according to new research.

Too far out to be easily spotted by telescopes, the potential unseen planet appears to be making its presence felt by disturbing the orbits of so-called Kuiper belt objects, said Rodney Gomes, an astronomer at the National Observatory of Brazil (http://www.on.br/) in Rio de Janeiro.
Kuiper belt objects are small icy bodies—including some dwarf planets (http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/solar-system/dwarf-planet/)—that lie beyond the orbit of Neptune (http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science/space/solar-system/neptune-article/).

Once considered the ninth planet in our system, the dwarf planet Pluto, for example, is one of the largest Kuiper belt objects, at about 1,400 miles (2,300 kilometers) wide. Dozens of the other objects are hundreds of miles across, and more are being discovered every year.
(See "Three New 'Plutos'? Possible Dwarf Planets Found." (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/08/110811-three-new-dwarf-planets-pluto-kuiper-belt-space-science/))

What's intriguing, Gomes said, is that, according to his new calculations, about a half dozen Kuiper belt objects—including the remote body known as Sedna—are in strange orbits compared to where they should be, based on existing solar system models. (Related: "Pluto Neighbor Gets Downsized." (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/04/120418-pluto-sedna-smaller-size-herschel-infrared-space-science/))
The objects' unexpected orbits have a few possible explanations, said Gomes, who presented his findings Tuesday at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society (http://aas.org/) in Timberline Lodge, Oregon.
"But I think the easiest one is a planetary-mass solar companion"—a planet that orbits very far out from the sun but that's massive enough to be having gravitational effects on Kuiper belt objects.

Mystery Planet a Captured Rogue?

For the new work, Gomes analyzed the orbits of 92 Kuiper belt objects, then compared his results to computer models of how the bodies should be distributed, with and without an additional planet.
If there's no distant world, Gomes concludes, the models don't produce the highly elongated orbits we see for six of the objects.
How big exactly the planetary body might be isn't clear, but there are a lot of possibilities, Gomes added.

Based on his calculations, Gomes thinks a Neptune-size world, about four times bigger than Earth, orbiting 140 billion miles (225 billion kilometers) away from the sun—about 1,500 times farther than Earth—would do the trick.
But so would a Mars-size object—roughly half Earth's size—in a highly elongated orbit that would occasionally bring the body sweeping to within 5 billion miles (8 billion kilometers) of the sun.
Gomes speculates that the mystery object could be a rogue planet that was kicked out of its own star system and later captured by the sun's gravity. (See "'Nomad' Planets More Common Than Thought, May Orbit Black Holes." (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/02/120224-rogue-nomad-planets-stars-black-holes-space-science/))

Or the putative planet could have formed closer to our sun, only to be cast outward by gravitational encounters with other planets.

However, actually finding such a world would be a challenge.
To begin with, the planet might be pretty dim. Also, Gomes's simulations don't give astronomers any clue as to where to point their telescopes—"it can be anywhere," he said.

No Smoking Gun

Other astronomers are intrigued but say they'll want a lot more proof before they're willing to agree that the solar system—again—has nine planets. (Also see "Record Nine-Planet Star System Discovered?" (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/04/120410-star-system-more-planets-sun-hd10180-space-science/))
"Obviously, finding another planet in the solar system is a big deal," said Rory Barnes (http://www.astro.washington.edu/users/rory/), an astronomer at the University of Washington. But, he added, "I don't think he really has any evidence that suggests it is out there."
Instead, he added, Gomes "has laid out a way to determine how such a planet could sculpt parts of our solar system. So while, yes, the evidence doesn't exist yet, I thought the bigger point was that he showed us that there are ways to find that evidence."
Douglas Hamilton (http://www.astro.umd.edu/people/hamilton.html), an astronomer from the University of Maryland, agrees that the new findings are far from definitive.

"What he showed in his probability arguments is that it's slightly more likely. He doesn't have a smoking gun yet."

And Hal Levison (http://www.boulder.swri.edu/%7Ehal/), an astronomer at the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado, says he isn't sure what to make of Gomes's finding.
"It seems surprising to me that a [solar] companion as small as Neptune could have the effect he sees," Levison said.

But "I know Rodney, and I'm sure he did the calculations right."

Cjay

14th May 2012, 08:55

Blah blah blah.

Too far out to be easily spotted by telescopes

He means amateur telescopes. Well, duh! Of course there is a lot of distant objects that we "mere mortals" can't see.

But if the Hubble telescope can see tens of thousands of galaxies in a tiny speck of "black" space, then it certainly could see the object if they bothered to try.

And what makes Planet X (if it exists) "rogue". That is just sensationalist attention-grabbing BS. The original story does NOT mention Planet X.

I suggest the thread title is changed to match the title of the the original National Geographic story:
New Planet Found in Our Solar System?

...and I suggest the link is changed to the original source link (not some sneaky short link to another link)
Original link: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/05/120511-new-planet-solar-system-kuiper-belt-space-science/ (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/05/120511-new-planet-solar-system-kuiper-belt-space-science/)

ExomatrixTV

14th May 2012, 12:36

Cjay (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?5160-Cjay)

.. if I wanna change the title I have my reasons, study the content and you see why, no need to be a nitpicker or a wannabe "mister perfect" fetishism

Space_Ace

14th May 2012, 13:00

WyoSeeker

14th May 2012, 17:50

It's funny how the obfuscate real information. The finding here is:

according to his new calculations, about a half dozen Kuiper belt objects—including the remote body known as Sedna—are in strange orbits compared to where they should be, based on existing solar system models.

Everything else in the article is speculation.

stomy

14th May 2012, 19:01

New Planet Found in Our Solar System?
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-une-nouvelle-planete-trouvee-dans-notre-systeme-solaire-new-planet-found-in-our-solar-system-105172509.html

stomy

27th May 2012, 09:11

Planet X? New Evidence of an Unseen Planet at Solar System's Edge
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-planete-x-nouvelle-preuve-d-une-planete-invisible-a-bord-du-systeme-solaire-planet-x-new-evidenc-105738206.html

NASA Survey Counts Potentially Hazardous Asteroids
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-la-nasa-surveille-le-nombre-d-asteroides-potentiellement-dangereux-nasa-survey-counts-potentially-105332362.html

More of 1000 scientists dispute climate alarmism
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-plus-de-1000-scientifiques-contestent-l-alarmisme-climatique-more-of-1000-scientists-dispute-clima-105688050.html

2012: The Official Website of Air Force Reserve Command: Law authorizes mobilizing reservists to respond to natural disasters
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-une-loi-autorise-la-mobilisation-des-reservistes-pour-faire-face-aux-catastrophes-naturelles-law-105883996.html

Star Tsar

27th May 2012, 20:27

Greetings Avalonians,

Donny Gillson @ 32º of Insanity is pretty convinced that he's found evidience of Planet X.
I found this show on you tube on Friday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ILANWBPKs

I also came across this video in which he deals with a debunker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk2HtfL7-Rw

What do you guys think?

Realeyes

27th May 2012, 20:40

Thanks for this - I will look at this with interest tomorrow.

RedeZra

27th May 2012, 20:49

Planet X Phaethon Planet of the Crossing Nibiru the Destroyer

yes i believe it is coming to close this age

Deega

27th May 2012, 20:59

Star Tsar

27th May 2012, 21:05

white wizard

27th May 2012, 21:09

planet X is a symbol of change and most people who believe in it see the change

coming. I do not believe we will see it manifest physically in our lifetime, but I know

it exists there is plenty of info out there to support that.

Deega

27th May 2012, 21:53

Planet X Phaethon Planet of the Crossing Nibiru the Destroyer

yes i believe it is coming to close this age

Thanks RedeZra, I, also, have an intuitive feeling that it is coming!

All the best to you.

Deega

Positive or Negative or Neutral feeling Deega?

Thanks K.W.B., great Tread, last night, I was surfing «Before it's News», saw the video, had a look at it, and it again reach me as a possibility.

To your question, is it a positive or negative or neutral feeling with Planet X coming?

I might not see it in my life time, it has been part of our Solar System for ages (positive), it will bring great changes (could be both polarities), one challenging world for the people that lived through it, and survived (could be both polarities, but mostly negative if we forsee incertitude, insecurity, etc), if people in our modern world loose the means to hold their basic needs after the passing of Planet X, what a challenge that will be (could be both polarities), and the list may go on, again with different polarities.

All the best to you.

Deega

dddanieljjjamesss

27th May 2012, 21:57

Star Tsar

27th May 2012, 22:06

I am really not sure of Donny Gillson's motives, whether he is moved by his own 32 degrees of insanity, or if there is some larger disinfo/manipulation going on underneath that.

But I remember analyzing a lot of his 'proof' during the elenin fiasco, and I found him to be extremely ego-centric, reactionary, and someone who jumped to way too many conclusions, deeming things as 'evidence' that any rational person would need more information before making such huge claims.

Ok fair enough you may feel that way about the host but the infomation is more important i think.

I mean MSM is now picking this up.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2148631/The-hunt-Planet-X-Noted-astronomer-calculates-planet-times-size-Earth-exist-fringe-solar-system.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

http://news.discovery.com/space/planex-x-20-gravitational-perturbations-120523.html

Sidney

28th May 2012, 00:26

32 degrees of insanity has many many great videos. I discovered him a few months ago. Some of them are somewhat exaggerated, but I do like him. Its worth it to watch more that just the ones posted here. As with everything else discernment is necessary.

ghostrider

28th May 2012, 02:10

there is so much out there, I'll never again get worked up over ONE object moving around in space. all the space debris, junk satelites, asteroids, dust, particles of gas, and such and we get worked up easily over ONE object moving around . hell everything in space moves around bouncing off of the gravity of everything else. good info , just don't be in the ( oh no the boogyman is coming to get me ) mode . I'm the first one to admit , I'm easily swayed with information , but doing my own checking has made cautious and careful. the elenin thing had me good .

slipknotted

28th May 2012, 02:10

yeak check out his youtube channel

nearing

28th May 2012, 15:28

This guy gets crazy about lens flares! He looks very very foolish.

stomy

28th May 2012, 17:09

2012: The Kavli Foundation: Nomads of the Galaxy
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-the-kavli-foundation-les-nomades-de-la-galaxie-nomads-of-the-galaxy-105905030.html

2012: ESA: Venus Express unearths new clues to the planet's geological history (Venus would it originated in another part of the galaxy?)
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-venus-express-deterre-de-nouveaux-indices-sur-l-histoire-geologique-de-la-planete-venus-express-un-105905626.html

WhiteFeather

30th May 2012, 02:20

A Passenger aboard a plane in Australia snaps an awesome color photo of what appears to be possibly Nibiru! This photo also matches a famous crop circle that was made in Avebury Manor in 2008. Interesting to say the least. Thought id post this. See if it Resonates with you. Check out The YT video below as well.

Nibiru System In Full Color As Seen By A Passenger On-Board A Commercial Aircraft over Melbourne, Australia May 28.2012 Exclusive.

http://beforeitsnews.com/ckfinder/userfiles/0000000000003863/images/389637_3680895432825_1588234233_2863097_1514015115 _n.jpg

http://beforeitsnews.com/ckfinder/userfiles/0000000000003863/images/5-28-2012%25204-48-57%2520PM.jpg

http://beforeitsnews.com/ckfinder/userfiles/0000000000003863/images/5-28-2012%25204-48-57%2520PM.jpg

http://beforeitsnews.com/ckfinder/userfiles/0000000000003863/images/5-28-2012%25205-06-11%2520PM.jpg

http://www.barry.warmkessel.com/cc22july08.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bh5wsvOdjQ&feature=player_embedded

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2190/213/Nibiru_System_In_Full_Color_As_Seen_By_A_Passenger _On-Board_A_Commercial_Aircraft_over_Melbourne,_Austra lia_May_28.2012_Exclusive.html

Abhaya

30th May 2012, 02:59

Most airplane windows are double paned I believe. That may explain the double reflection. Just my thought. I'd rather it be nibiru though :)

RMorgan

30th May 2012, 03:06

Most airplane windows are double paned I believe. That may explain the double reflection. Just my thought. I'd rather it be nibiru though :)

I agree.

In my opinion, these lights are reflections on the airplane´s window.

Cheers,

Raf.

Peace4all

30th May 2012, 05:23

When i glance at the sun and close my eyes i see this.

UnrealDreams

30th May 2012, 08:38

I followed the link on the bottom of Whitefeather's post and found this video. If you watch the first five minutes of this and still don't believe something is happening......you will never believe. Personally, I do believe....I know something spectacular is happening right now on this planet and this world is changing.

r2TNEEaY018

spiritguide

30th May 2012, 10:35

Vision.... When two or more like atoms combine and balance the results are a molecule. Therefore, is it not safe to say that when two or more solar systems combined and balance the results are galaxies. When dissimilar atoms combine a different quality resonates as in H2O. Then is it not possible that when dissimilar solar systems combine a new quality results. As above, so below can be visualized into infinity in both directions from the universe down to the quantum level. Universal laws and forces are the same from micro to macro and you can observe them play out at any level that we can observe. IMHO

UnrealDreams

1st June 2012, 08:27

It's hard to believe there weren't many comments on this thread. This is huge news!! A 'rogue planet' enters our solar system and it gets no attention on this website? Did anyone watch the first 5 minutes of the video on post #5?

Tane Mahuta

2nd June 2012, 03:58

Here's another link regarding the topic, some more infomation to digest

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2200/024/Nibiru_05.30.12_Being_Photographed_By_Scientist_At_South_Pole_Exclusive_Space_Photos_Of_The_Nibiru_S ystem_Must_See_To_Believe.html

TM

frozen alchemy

2nd June 2012, 04:31

Random unimportant complaint, but the website with the video called it a 'Rouge' planet. I have trouble taking them seriously after that.

9eagle9

2nd June 2012, 12:03

This is more credible evidence. Meaning its more credible than the the wild speculations that people burp up without any evidence ala David Wilcocks (who adamantly resists that Niburu could change anything which is weird considering if a huge planet comes drifting into earth's orbit, SOMETHING is going to change.)

However Niburu opposes his wondrous fantasy land speculations so I can see how he could resist it.

Since DW is a sieve for false information and he shrugs off Niburu as being non-important and least affective that would compel me to take a closer look at it, if we are being compelled to look away from it from our most popularly manipulated celebrity fog horn, all the more reason to take a closer look at it.

Looks like a ship, looks like a planet doesn't mean it is a planet. But I can accept that someone is looking at something.

But that's as far as I'm willing to go. It doesn't necessarily mean great changes. It doesn't necessarily mean horrid changes. Could it cause change? Sure.

Can I do something about it either way?

No.

Forming a belief system about this 'better quality evidence' doesn't serve me in the least. If great changes happen I'm sure I'm not going to be excluded. If horrible changes are wrought I accept that I can be prepared for them but there's no guarantee that I won't be affected by them.

Forming a belief, good, bad or indifferent will not change that. Can't be discredited or credited either way at this point , it just is what it is.

ulli

2nd June 2012, 12:26

Random unimportant complaint, but the website with the video called it a 'Rouge' planet. I have trouble taking them seriously after that.

Haha, we think alike.

Eram

2nd June 2012, 12:36

Looks like a ship, looks like a planet doesn't mean it is a planet. But I can accept that someone is looking at something.

Could it cause change? Sure.

Can I do something about it either way?

No.

a suggestion :whistle:

uC_-42ePH2g

Tane Mahuta

2nd June 2012, 12:45

Random unimportant complaint, but the website with the video called it a 'Rouge' planet. I have trouble taking them seriously after that.

Haha, we think alike.

16692

It's been called many things...nibiru, planet x, the winged planet, planet this, planet that!!...

who cares!!! what it's called...somethings coming in!!!

gonna ruin my day...me thinks!!!

nuff said

TM

Flash

2nd June 2012, 13:07

Random unimportant complaint, but the website with the video called it a 'Rouge' planet. I have trouble taking them seriously after that.

they probably meant a rog planet but anyhow rouge means red in French, the author may have been French, before despising, we might check if it is the case or where this term comes from. I would not reject anything just for one single word. If so, I would have rejected thousands of posts here on Avalon up to now and would have missed a lot.

I do some mistakes like this sometimes, English not being my mothertongue (I remember writing Buddha as Bouddha, which is the correct spelling in my mothertongue, and being laughed at and openly despised for it on this same Avalon forum). I would definitly check why "rouge" before rejecting the video.

As for me, I do not believe in this rog planet anymore, I have seen it too much in conspiracy forums in the last years with nothing to show up for. On the other hand, I do not trust we would be told either by Nasa if it existed. But my conclusion is not based on this single rouge word.

9eagle9

2nd June 2012, 13:11

The only thing I can do is change my perception about the whole event.

Neither am I compelled to view it as good or bad.

Looks like a ship, looks like a planet doesn't mean it is a planet. But I can accept that someone is looking at something.

Could it cause change? Sure.

Can I do something about it either way?

No.

a suggestion :whistle:

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Selene

2nd June 2012, 14:54

Most airplane windows are double paned I believe. That may explain the double reflection. Just my thought. I'd rather it be nibiru though :)

Even if the "second object near/behind the sun" were a double reflection - that still doesn't explain why it's visible in the first place. Its image may be optically doubled somehow here, but here.it.is.

And yes, this is more evidence of an inbound extrasolar planet. Not everyone who proposes a crazy idea is indeed crazy. The evidence for the reality of this thing just keeps building.

We're in for some interesting times indeed.

Regards,

Selene

shadowbox

2nd June 2012, 15:22

This is so obviously a lens flare.

C'mon, people, whatever happened to good information on these forums?

Plane windows are double-paned. Debunked.

Mu2143

2nd June 2012, 15:30

Check this out
http://www.jap-sai.com/Games/Salamander/Salamander_MSX_A.jpg

http://oldschoolgameblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/salamander-1.jpg?w=253&h=332

http://koti.welho.com/omarkkan/themes/msx/salamanderpic.jpg

9eagle9

2nd June 2012, 15:40

The video isn't double paned. The reflection in the airplane window is wishful thinking.

The video who knows--one can create a record of anything.

Won't know till we see it rising on the horizon and even then someone could dismiss it as Project Blue Beam holographic images.

When the earth starts to shake maybe we'll know.

Then again that could be Haarp.

and so on and so on....

This is so obviously a lens flare.

C'mon, people, whatever happened to good information on these forums?

Plane windows are double-paned. Debunked.

shadowbox

2nd June 2012, 16:31

I don't doubt the possibility of a planet potentially being in a rogue rotational journey around the sun.. I just find the evidence provided in this forum post to be misleading.

DeDukshyn

2nd June 2012, 19:02

It doesn't look like a lens flare, but I did just look at the sun with my telescope not that long ago -- no Nibiru or anything there, but I did see some really large sunspots. I'll take a look again soon and see what I can see. (I'll be checking the transit of Venus on Tuesday). That's not to say there's nothing up there that's not being hidden in some way ...

EDIT: Don't look at the sun through a telescope - I'm doing it in a non harmful way.

Knowrainknowrainbows!

2nd June 2012, 21:06

Are ther any pilots or scientists on this forum who can "testify" to some of these anomalies?

Respectfully,
KRKR

ExomatrixTV

3rd June 2012, 18:50

The evidence for 'Planet X' - the mysterious hypothesised planet on the edge of our solar system - has taken a new turn thanks to the mathematics of a noted astronomer.
Rodney Gomes, an astronomer at the National Observatory of Brazil in Rio de Janeiro, says the irregular orbits of small icy bodies beyond Neptune imply that a planet four times the size of Earth is swirling around our sun in the fringes of the solar system.
Planet X - perhaps mis-named now that Pluto has been demoted to a dwarf planet - has been widely hypothesised for decade, but has never been proven.

Gomes measured the orbits of 92 Kuiper belt objects - small bodies and dwarf planets - and said that six objects appeared to be tugged off-course compared to their expected orbits.
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/23/article-2148631-133ED8B6000005DC-698_634x428.jpg -
The hypothetical planet - four times the size of Earth - will float beyond Neptune and Pluto and cause disturbances in the Kuiper belt of asteroids

He told astronomers at the American Astronomical Society on Tuesday that the most likely reason for the irregular orbits was a 'planetary-mass solar companion' - a distant body of planet size that is powerful enough to move the Kuiper belt objects.
He suggested the planet would be four times bigger than Earth - around the size of Nepture and would be 140 billion miles from the sun, or about 1,500 times further than the Earth.

Alternatively an object the size of Mars on an irregular orbit that bought it to within five billion miles of the sun – close to Neptune’s orbit – could be the solution.
However, due to the distances involved, it will be tough to for Earthbound astronomers to catch a glimpse of the hypothetical newest member of our solar system.
Even non-planet Pluto is hard to spot thanks to the distances involved.
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/23/article-2148631-133EFFF3000005DC-120_634x386.jpg
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The Kuiper belt lies on the outskirts of our solar system, and calculations imply a planet also lurks out there
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2148631/The-hunt-Planet-X-Noted-astronomer-calculates-planet-times-size-Earth-exist-fringe-solar-system.html#ixzz1wl4iLkfg

conk

7th June 2012, 15:23

The video posted in #5 is very telling. Will really pique your interest, so watch if you have not. :thumb:

Precog

23rd June 2012, 06:43

Last year my son and I were on a hike on Feb. 14th and I looked up at the moon. The right side of the moon was lit up by the sun and as you looked down it was fadeing away and the lower right side was not lit up. Something was clearly between the sun and the moon. This was also at the same time as we were getting all the very orange and red sunsets here in Ca.. Pics
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2193664680047834705EEWUDU

http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2431379260047834705cTubxR

Star Tsar

23rd June 2012, 07:08

Beautiful pictures precog. :cool:

Meteors from its tail perhaps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH8N63n9_us&feature=player_embedded

Dated 20-6-2012

stomy

13th July 2012, 19:34

2008: Kobe University: An Unknown Planet in the Outskirts of the Solar System?
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-une-planete-inconnue-dans-la-banlieue-du-systeme-solaire-an-unknown-planet-in-the-outskirts-of-th-106172919.html

The John Moore Show 7-11-2012 - Alert Level 3.6 Nibiru is Near
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-the-john-moore-show-7-11-2012---alert-level-3-6-nibiru-is-near-108120579.html

University of Copenhagen: Planets can form around different types of stars
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-les-planetes-peuvent-se-former-autour-de-differents-types-de-planetes-planets-can-form-around-diff-107125147.html

2012: University of Tennessee: A rare orbital shift and the density of an asteroid that will pass close to Earth
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-un-changement-rare-orbitale-et-la-densite-d-un-asteroide-qui-va-passer-pres-de-la-terre-a-rare-orb-106329873.html

2012: First sign of the Mars Anomaly — March 17
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-premier-signe-de-l-anomalie-de-mars-17-03-12-first-sign-of-the-mars-anomaly-march-17-107215864.html

University of Colorado Boulder: catalog more than 635,000 Martian craters
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-universite-de-colorado-boulder-catalogue-plus-de-635-000-crateres-martiens-university-of-colorado-107125416.html

Pluto Remains Shrouded in Mystery - Hubble Discovers a Fifth Moon Orbiting Pluto
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-pluton-reste-enveloppee-de-mystere-pluto-remains-shrouded-in-mystery-108119256.html

2012: The White House: Executive Order: Assignment of National Security and Emergency Preparedness Communications Functions
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-la-maison-blanche-ordre-executif-affectation-de-la-securite-nationale-et-des-fonctions-de-preparat-107963690.html

Telescope:

NASA gets two military spy telescopes for astronomy
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-nasa-obtient-deux-telescopes-d-espionnage-militaires-pour-l-astronomie-nasa-gets-two-military-spy-106385794.html

New telescope to be in South Africa, Australia
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-un-nouveau-telescope-sera-en-afrique-du-sud-et-en-australie-new-telescope-to-be-in-south-africa-a-105884740.html

NASA: Launch of NuSTAR exploration Satellite most advanced
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-nasa-lancement-du-satellite-d-exploration-nustar-le-plus-perfectionne-launch-of-nustar-exploratio-101746490.html

NASA: Space Telescope Opens Its X-Ray Eyes
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-nustar-letelescope-spatial-ouvre-ses-yeux-rayons-x-space-telescope-opens-its-x-ray-eyes-107900993.html

University of Arizona: Creation of World’s Largest Telescope
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-universite-de-l-arizona-creation-du-plus-grand-telescope-du-monde-university-of-arizona-creation-97331819.html

truth4me

17th July 2012, 08:44

On youtube there is a user who goes by the name BackToConstitution who has a lot of great videos where he reads to you from books/articles etc; He has a great reading style that keeps you interested and his videos are very informative.We all have heard the Nibiru stories and such plus remember this , the D.U.M.B. are real and are/were built for something. I hope you enjoy the video and as always you be the judge.

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bennycog

17th July 2012, 09:29

yes we feel they are real.. we have the whistleblowers and pictures of big drill rigs.. we have the secrecy and intuition..
d.u.m.b.s are surely there for a reason..
ill just have to say that i feel they know from manevolent and benevolent sources of the extra-terrestrial community..
and they have givin them the scenerios that they need to avoid..
some choose to try to manifest these scenerios for control over the populace..
some choose to try to avoid the destruction..
some sleep
some are over it, fed up and ready to move on......

Mulder

21st July 2012, 10:06

On the Project Blue Beam Roundtable, a viewer asked if they know if "Nibiru" is to pass Earth on Aug 17 & leaving outward bound on Sept 26th (- according to Dr Deagle's radio show). Courtney Brown disagreed & said Nibiru is is a brown dwarf star and would show up on infra-red if it was that close. George Lo Buono agreed with Courtney.
Mike Harris said it's not Nibiru, but it is a "planetry sized object." He was told to expect earthquakes and tidal waves between Aug 17 and 26 Sept. George Kavassilas agreed and said that the Earth is surrounded by spaceships that are invisible as they are in a frequency we can't perceive and this could be true for Nibiru.

N.B. Zecharia Sitchin stated before he died in 2010 that Nibiru was still 1200 years away in its outer orbit!

Personally, I feel there's so much controversy that it's hard to determine the truth about most subjects.

modwiz

21st July 2012, 12:28

Ernie Nemeth

21st July 2012, 14:09

I cannot imagine a civilization that would expend such massive resources in recording the history of the Anunaki on earth, like the Sumerians did, if it was only an allegorical story. Embossed on thousands of clay tablets and adorning countless implements and weapons, the Sumerians tell of "The gods that from heaven to earth came". In exacting detail, this high civilization lists the antics of these gods, these aliens, as they search for and exploit the natural resources of our planet, predominantly gold. They are explicit in the writings that the Anunaki "gave" them their civilization: taught them agriculture, metallurgy, high rise building, astronomy, and other high knowledge.

And since I cannot imagine a civilization that would make up stories and then record those lies for posterity - and spend so much resources doing so - and be so prolific about it as to leave hundreds of thousands of clay tablets around for those that came after to find. Since I cannot believe it, I must believe they recorded the truth. And once I accept that as fact, then my conclusion becomes simple: aliens have come here and they have taught us what we know, for better or worse, about reality. Also, if one race from the stars has been here, other races have most likely also visited us. And if they visited us in the past, there is absolutely no reason to suppose that alien races are not here today, amongst us.

I am not sure where the weak point in this premise is, or even if there is one. I accept the writings of ancient peoples as valid because man is not a superstitious beast but a highly sensitive creature with powers that extend into the other dimensions we cannot see. Part of the reason we do not know of our own potential is the fact that other races of beings do not wish us to know - and have made sure we are mislead in this regard.

These alien beings have created of us a race of slave beings: small, weak and ignorant. It all fits and it all makes sense from that perspective. No other argument gives the same impact to the hard questions that plague us in this modern world. Why is there poverty? Why are there so many wars? Why can we not configure a financial system that benefits all? Why do we rape and pillage this world, and lay waste to the natural world? Why is there so much misery and suffering? Why are there so many sick and dying of so many diseases? We can see, using this model, that in fact those in power want poverty, wars, fiat money, pollution, expoitation, pain and disease and death. They are the things that keep us divided, keep us struggling in fear, looking out for ourselves at the expense of others and the like.

We have been duped, and it will take a massive effort, in honest earnestness, to gather together as a race and stop the travesties that have been visited upon us.

truth4me

21st July 2012, 14:50

I do believe there are D.U.M.B. bases all over America and I'm sure rest of the world also. They were built for some reason.

jackovesk

21st July 2012, 16:14

DEVELOPING STORY: PLANET-SIZED OBJECT COMING NEAR EARTH AUGUST 17TH? Unverified...

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/host_images/Kerry_Cassidy_150.jpg

Thursday, 19 July 2012 23:33
Written by Kerry Cassidy

Update: 07/20/12 8:25AM:

Just to add to the confusion here is one of the links to John Moore's radio show also announcing Nibiru as "coming soon"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUMAuY32Cjc&feature=relmfu

Additional note: John Moore references Robert Harrington was killed shortly after he announced that the 10th planet was a reality.

Excepted from our Project Camelot interview with Luca Scantamburlo regarding Planet X and the Jesuit Priest who gave secret testimony to journalist Cristoforo Barbato.

http://projectcamelotportal.com/images/robert_harrington_lg.jpg

LS: ..."This is a picture which belongs to a US Naval Observatory. It is in the public domain, in the US Naval Observatory website. The gentleman on the right is Robert Sutton Harrington, an astronomer who worked by the US Naval Observatory. On the left there is his former colleague, [James] Christy, who was the author of the discovery of one of the satellites of Pluto - Charon - in 1978.

BR: Who was Robert Sutton Harrington?

LS: Robert Sutton Harrington was an astronomer involved in the search for Planet X. He wrote several articles about the possible existence of this planet in our solar system. And Zecharia Sitchin is the author of this book, End of Days - Armageddon or Prophesies of the Return, who, in 1990 - August 1990 if I remember well - went to Harrington’s studio at the US Naval Observatory. They talked about the possible presence of another planet, not yet discovered."

It is worth noting that in my prior post from the NSA whistleblower (see below) he states "The system approaching us coming out of the Kuiper Belt (Nibiru) is part of this equation, but this is manageable. " Therefore according to "Z" the Brown Dwarf is in the vicinity of the Kuiper belt... which is not close. Note also that he says "system" which alludes to the Brown Dwarf (2nd Sun) that Camelot witness, Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann told us years ago, is a known fact in the scientific community at this time, which may have planets rotating around it including Nibiru...(see my interview with Andy Lloyd for more on this). Although it is interesting to see that "Z" says it has been "manageable".. whatever that means...

***

Update 07/20/12 3AM: according to one of my trusted sources, the above is not true... This is a psy-op to distract attention away from the more "earthly" problems that will be coming to the fore in the next few months.

***

Original report:

CAUTION URGED: Here's a link to a youtube copy of today's radio program with host Mike Harris, who announced, based on information given to him from a high level source (at the level of General Patreus) in a Foreign Intelligence group, that a "planet sized object" is coming close to the Earth as of August 17th and then moving out of the solar system (after another pass-by?) around September 26th."

I spoke with Mike Harris tonight who was a member of my Camelot Roundtable on Project Blue Beam. In answer to a question from the audience regarding a similar piece of information that has apparently been announced by Dr. Bill Deagle last Friday (and today) that he has a source who talked about the same dates. Mike Harris then came forward on the Ustream and announced that according to his high level source this is indeed true. In other words, both sources are saying the same thing.

I have invited Mike Harris on my radio show tomorrow night on Revolution Radio. He is checking with his source and will let me know if he can accept my offer and whether there is any added information he can release.

All Mike said when questioned for further information is that there will be earthquakes and other affects from this passage. He is urging people to prepare.

IMPORTANT NOTE: I am seeking verification of this information at this time. I cannot confirm that it is accurate in any way. If you have independent verification please get in touch with me kerry@projectcamelot.tv

DEVELOPING STORY.... unconfirmed and unverified.

Be warned that there are often efforts to deceive members of the Alternative Community with bogus information. This could be such a time. This may be an effort to discredit Mike Harris and Dr. Bill Deagle and others who automatically take this information for the truth without further investigation.

From a scientific point of view if such an object were "close" to Earth it would seem to be visible as well as making it's presence known for many months if not years in advance. From the pov of conventional science this information would be considered untrue and misleading.

It may simply be the PTB doing a market research study to see how the information of such magnitude would travel. How it would be handled etc.

MY ADVICE:

BE AWARE. STAY CALM AND WAIT FOR ADDITIONAL VERIFICATION AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

Update: according to one of my trusted sources, the above is not true... This is a psy-op to distract attention away from the more "earthly" problems that will be coming to the fore in the next few months.

http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerrys-blog/1201-developing-story-planet-sized-object-coming-near-earth-august-17th-unverified.html

Hervé

21st July 2012, 16:23

See it fly by here: WhoOooOoo, Real Asteroid Zooming By! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47591-WhoOooOoo-Real-Asteroid-Zooming-By-)

Nick Matkin

21st July 2012, 17:31

So none of the thousands of amateur astronomers world wide have seen Nibiru? Not even those with lots of high-tech equipment including infra-red detectors? Or have they ALL been paid to keep quiet?

I don't understand...

Artworks

21st July 2012, 17:56

Well zeta talk.com has a great deal to say about the Niburu.

lizfrench

21st July 2012, 21:05

Hi, I am a new member here at Avalon, thank you for the opportunity to engage in this forum.
Regarding the upcoming object flying toward earth, here is a quote from the andromedacouncil.com website,:
"This celestial object is an asteroid approximately 6 miles long x 10 miles wide. It is called: "Nahiei Nimi" by the commander of the primary Andromeda Council biosphere in his native language of the planet Dakote. By the astrometric scientists on the Andromeda Council biosphere using the Andromeda, planet Terial, dialect, this asteroid is called: "Ouskaar Nata". Using either set of words it means: "Silver Ray" because when it passes by Earth people will see a huge silver glow around it (about 20 miles around) and it will present a silver tail as it flies by the Earth. Perspective wise, it will appear in the sky to people looking at it from Earth... to be about half the size of a high mid-day sun.
It will not hit Earth, only fly by it at a distance of approximately 450,000 miles from the surface. There is likely to be some minor temporary electromagnetic cause & effects to the planet, tremors and magma flow under the Earth's crust. To quote the commander of the primary Andromeda Council biosphere he said, '...it will just rattle your cage a little.' It is presently located out around Pluto heading into this solar system"

Mulder

21st July 2012, 21:34

Personally, I feel there's so much controversy that it's hard to determine the truth about most subjects.

Which is why we would all benefit greatly from learning more about a subject that althought equally mysterious can be approached without controversy.

Ourselves.

The never ending work that few have even seriously begun. The wonders that would follow from such work are the same we attribute to other causes. The possibility of a wondrous world are real, many of the proposed paths are not. Most are distractions from the actual work to be done. It is easier, and more fun, to talk endlessly about things than do them.

Talking about building a house will not keep one dry.

I couldn't agree with you more. I've discovered so much about myself this year especially after Venus went retrograde in May. I'm totally shocked that now in my middle age, I review things I've done or failed to do in my youth and feel very differently about myself now. I heard about a Catholic Saint who wanted "self-knowledge" and after he got it, he lived his life in despair! So we have to make sure we don't despair.

Mulder

21st July 2012, 21:53

Maunagarjana

21st July 2012, 23:09

DEVELOPING STORY: PLANET-SIZED OBJECT COMING NEAR EARTH AUGUST 17TH? Unverified...

It is worth noting that in my prior post from the NSA whistleblower (see below) he states "The system approaching us coming out of the Kuiper Belt (Nibiru) is part of this equation, but this is manageable. " Therefore according to "Z" the Brown Dwarf is in the vicinity of the Kuiper belt... which is not close. Note also that he says "system" which alludes to the Brown Dwarf (2nd Sun) that Camelot witness, Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann told us years ago, is a known fact in the scientific community at this time, which may have planets rotating around it including Nibiru...(see my interview with Andy Lloyd for more on this). Although it is interesting to see that "Z" says it has been "manageable".. whatever that means...

http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerrys-blog/1201-developing-story-planet-sized-object-coming-near-earth-august-17th-unverified.html

Courtney Brown confirmed that we are in a binary solar system, in the 2nd half of his "Exploding Planet Recording." He said the brown dwarf is our second sun. He believes this fact is scientifically proven and the powers that be know the location of the brown dwarf and any planets orbiting it (like Nibiru - although, Courtney never explicitly said Nibiru does orbit this brown dwarf).

Incidentally, Avalon's own Onyxknight has also said, based upon what he's learned during ET contacts, that there is a "Sol B" which will eventually be discovered.

About the object....maybe we should have these Bulgarian scientists ask about it:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/bulgaria/6650677/Aliens-already-exist-on-earth-Bulgarian-scientists-claim.html

Aliens 'already exist on earth', Bulgarian scientists claim

Aliens from outer space are already among us on earth, say Bulgarian government scientists who claim they are already in contact with extraterrestrial life.

Work on deciphering a complex set of symbols sent to them is underway, scientists from the country's Space Research Institute said.

They claim aliens are currently answering 30 questions posed to them.

Lachezar Filipov, deputy director of the Space Research Institute of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences, confirmed the research.

He said the centre's researchers were analysing 150 crop circles from around the world, which they believe answer the questions.

"Aliens are currently all around us, and are watching us all the time," Mr Filipov told Bulgarian media.

"They are not hostile towards us, rather, they want to help us but we have not grown enough in order to establish direct contact with them."

Mr Filipov said that even the seat of the Catholic church, the Vatican, had agreed that aliens existed.

He said humans were not going to be able to establish contact with the extraterrestrials through radio waves but through the power of thought.

"The human race was certainly going to have direct contact with the aliens in the next 10 to 15 years," he said.

"Extraterrestrials are critical of the people's amoral behavior referring to the humans' interference in nature's processes."

The publication of the BAS researchers report concerning communicating with aliens comes in the midst of a controversy over the role, feasibility, and reform of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences.

Last week it lead to a heated debate between Bulgaria's Finance Minister, Simeon Djankov, and President Georgi Parvanov.

UPDATE: http://technorati.com/technology/article/bulgarian-scientist-claims-alien-contact-falls/

stomy

22nd July 2012, 20:18

2005: Cornell University Librairy: Mass Limit on Nemesis
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-cornell-university-librairy-la-limite-de-la-masse-de-nemesis-mass-limit-on-nemesis-108317023.html

2009: Cornell University Librairy: Constraints on planet X/Nemesis from Solar System's inner dynamics
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-cornell-university-librairy-contraintes-sur-la-planete-x-nemesis-dans-la-dynamique-interne-du-sys-108319052.html

2012: Saturn, the largest storm seen up-close
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-saturne-la-plus-grande-tempete-vu-de-pres-saturn-the-largest-storm-seen-up-close-108373030.html

2012: River networks on Titan point to a puzzling geologic history
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-les-cours-d-une-riviere-sur-titan-a-une-etrange-histoire-de-sa-formation-geologique-river-networks-108371448.html

Mulder

22nd July 2012, 20:45

Massive dark object 'lurking on edge of solar system hurling comets at Earth'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1336540/Massive-dark-object-lurking-edge-solar-hurling-comets-Earth.html

Wow, this headline sounds like a scarey space monster & sure got my attention!

Hervé

27th July 2012, 06:06

[...]

He believes this fact is scientifically proven...

[...]

How to get utterly confused in the course of a very short sentence...

If it's a fact, there's no discussion, argument or "belief" possible; it's there staring in your face.

If it's a scientific object, then it remains a hypothesis until said object is discovered and a picture of it can be displayed and therefore it cannot be a "proven" fact till then.

As for the theory and the supporting evidences for the hypothesis of our solar system being a binary star system, from http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml):

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/images/research/introduction/pagetitle_binarytheory.jpg

Researchers at BRI have noticed a number of problems related to the current theory of precession. While VLBI, laser ranging and other related technologies do a good job at determining the earth’s orientation, the sun’s movement through space has not been coordinated with these findings resulting in unintentional bias of precession inputs. In examining the phenomenon of the precession of the equinox (which was the original impetus for the development of lunisolar precession theory) we have found that a moving solar system model is a simpler way to reproduce the same observable without any of the problems associated with current precession theory. Indeed, elliptical orbit equations have been found to be a better predictor of precession rates than Newcomb's formula, showing far greater accuracy over the last hundred years. Moreover, a moving solar system model appears to solve a number of solar system formation theory problems including the sun's lack of angular momentum. For these reasons, BRI has concluded our sun is most likely part of a long cycle binary system.

A binary system is two stars gravitationally bound orbiting a common center of mass. The stars can be of the same or differing sizes and orbits can be as short as a few days or as long as thousands of years. The short ones are easy to detect, the long ones difficult, some probably impossible to detect because of the very long observation period required.

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While there is no obvious visible companion star to our Sun, there could be a dark binary, such as a brown dwarf or possibly a relatively small black hole, either of which might be very difficult to detect, without accurate and lengthy analysis.

There is also the possibility that our sun might be in a binary or complex gravitational relationship with one of several nearby “visible” stars. This scenario may require thinking beyond standard Newtonian dynamics to embrace MOND or MOG or some similar theory (that suggests that the constant of G might be stronger between stellar objects than between planetary objects within the solar system). There could be many types of unknown and unidentified masses that might cause our solar system to curve through space, including the local stellar cluster and even the galactic center to some small degree, each producing some small effect within the total precession observable. Consequently, at this point our work is primarily focused on understanding the precession observable and its nuances as the likely signature of our solar system's angular velocity around some common center of mass. We believe that this approach of analyzing the precession observable (the sun's motion relative to the fixed stars as seen from earth) will provide valuable and helpful data regarding the sun's most likely stellar companion (if one exists).

In summary, beyond direct detection – one way to determine if we are in a binary or multiple star system is to see if the Sun is curving through space. To us on Earth that means we should experience a gradual “changing orientation to inertial space.” Such a phenomenon is observed as the precession of the equinox.

NEXT>> (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/precession.shtml) <--- click

truth4me

17th August 2012, 02:35

I ran into this on youtube. It's an interesting little video. The title says it all yet,as always YOU be the judge....

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Operator

17th August 2012, 03:22

I looked at the video while I currently have no sound (that can be helpful sometimes).

So I am not biased by a narrator ... all I see is flashes of a still image showing an orange orb hanging above the station.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it was a weather balloon. I have seen lots of webcam time lapse shots of this station.
The time lapse motion at least can tell you if something moves together with the stars.

I have contacted the people of the Neumayer station several times before to ask about other controversial pictures.
They are very friendly and every time there is a good explanation. One time we saw people in space- or bio-hazard suits.
It appeared they had a fire drill ... and indeed after the explanation the suits could be identified as such.

Here's a pic from a facebook (http://www.facebook.com/AntarcticConnection) page:

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/c100.0.403.403/p403x403/561028_10150966316862592_1585592738_n.jpg

watchZEITGEISTnow

17th August 2012, 05:00

I'm a bit weary on a lot of these toobes atm - most don't link to a source, and most refuse to answer when I ask for one.

No link to source - then suspect!

stomy

26th August 2012, 17:29

2012: NASA: The surface of the Greenland ice sheet melt in four days
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-la-surface-de-la-calotte-glaciaire-du-groenland-fond-en-quatres-jours-the-surface-of-the-greenland-108514722.html

2012: The City College of New York: Greenland Melting Breaks Record Four Weeks Early
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-greenland-melting-breaks-record-four-weeks-early-109154289.html

2012: Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency: A new record minimum of the Arctic sea ice extent
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-a-new-record-minimum-of-the-arctic-sea-ice-extent-109441007.html

NASA: Summer Temperature Anomalies for the Northern Hemisphere, 1955-2011
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-nasa-summer-temperature-anomalies-for-the-northern-hemisphere-1955-2011-109002910.html

Worldwide Mass Animal Deaths for 2012 & 2011
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-worldwide-mass-animal-deaths-for-2012-2011-109180115.html

apokalypse

26th September 2012, 23:38

ThePythonicCow

27th September 2012, 03:01

Niburu doomsday is back on?

Washington. Scientists at the U.S. space agency NASA began the search for the mysterious planet Nibiru, which according to experts, in the near future could substantially change life on Earth, NTV reported.
The mythical planet Nibiru, which according to legend of the ancient Sumerians, periodically come to Earth, once again aroused the interest of the scientific community.
Scientists from NASA officially confirmed the existence of the planet back in 1983, but now began serious efforts to find it. Astronomers will search using a special telescope.
Some experts say Nibiru, but rather its gravitational force caused the Great Flood that led to the disappearance of Atlantis, which caused a change of axles of some of the planets in the solar system and the occurrence of cracks and craters on the moon.
http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n288189

All mentions of this report that I can find lead back to that same http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n288189 link.

I do not know whether to trust that site.
Claims that NASA confirmed the existence of Nibiru back in 1983 sound doubtful to me.
Claims that NASA is resuming a search, but without any links to NASA reports or websites and without any details of how they are resuming the search also sound doubtful to me.

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Here is one similar report that is at least worded differently:

NASA scientists plan to launch a telescope into space in an attempt to find the mysterious killer planet Nibiru. Supposedly, the planet may considerably change life on Earth in near future, reports NTV.
More at http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/24-09-2012/122253-nibiru_earth-0/

gripreaper

27th September 2012, 03:44

http://thelightofdayradioshow.com/PlanetX_Files/X-seen-in-our-Skies.png

Bill Ryan

27th September 2012, 03:52

ThePythonicCow

27th September 2012, 03:52

Claims that NASA confirmed the existence of Nibiru back in 1983 sound doubtful to me.

Actually, this is true. (!)
Wow !

Sirius White

27th September 2012, 08:07

Ernie is correct.

Mike Gorman

27th September 2012, 08:38

Ernie is correct.

And you are all in for a wonderful experience regarding this subject :)

Can you elaborate just a little on this cryptic comment?

araucaria

27th September 2012, 09:12

Ernie is correct.

And you are all in for a wonderful experience regarding this subject :)
I take it Bill had insider confirmation before believing something he read in the newspapers! Of course today’s mainstream press could be telling lies and that of 30 years ago telling today’s truth.

I still haven’t found an answer to the quandary mentioned in the Bob Dean thread: Bob confirms his friend Sitchin’s analyses about Nibiru, except for his dates, which Sitchin clearly and deliberately puts a couple of hundred years down the line, and Bob, in clear contradiction, about now.

‘Ernie is correct’, presumably about the Sumerian tablets and Sitchin’s reading of them. But, as I say, Sitchin says not now. There has got to be some distortion somewhere along the line. These tablets may have been like today’s press – not necessarily reliable; and any translation is also limited by what the translator himself knows or can conceive or not. Most libraries that burn down are lost forever, but these clay tablets were hardened and actually preserved, an interesting phenomenon to say the least. It gave them a value that they might not otherwise have had or deserved to have. There again, the fire might have been a deliberate time capsule (just thinking out loud). And it might be a special case of 'cooking the books' :)

Today, 27th September, the time window has elapsed. Does anyone have any news of a sighting?

Sirius White: ‘you are all in for a wonderful experience’. Care to elaborate? :)

Operator

27th September 2012, 11:26

Today, 27th September, the time window has elapsed. Does anyone have any news of a sighting?

Here's a new bone to chew on ...

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/pending-announcement-status
(Obama making an announcement coming Saturday about planet X)

I am skeptical about this myself and this is related to zetatalk which is regarded highly controversial material.
However e.g. Ann Eller (assistant of J. Allen Hynek) is a big believer that Zetatalk is accurate. Also the Zetatalk
website is backed by a lot of mirror sites. So somebody is investing a lot of money and time in this.
This could very well be a psyop or dis-info attempt ... but apparently it fits somebodies agenda which makes
it worth to have a look at it.

Oh well, we had our own Pete Peterson talking about Obama making announcements ...

SilentFeathers

27th September 2012, 13:22

Claims that NASA confirmed the existence of Nibiru back in 1983 sound doubtful to me.

Actually, this is true (!) -- although no-one called it 'Nibiru'.

(Click here (http://projectavalon.net/Planet_X_Washington_Post_1983_p1.jpg) for a higher-resolution image of this Washington Post Article.)

http://projectavalon.net/Planet_X_Washington_Post_1983_p1_sm.jpg

Interesting to note that The Palomar Observatory was built through the Rockefeller Foundation.

These are the two scientists mentioned in the article….

Gerald 'Gerry' Neugebauer (born 3 September 1932) is an American astronomer known for his pioneering work in infrared astronomy.
Observations by him and his colleagues at Mount Wilson and Palomar observatories revealed thousands of infrared sources in the sky, and afforded the first infrared view of the galactic center. Together with Robert B. Leighton, he completed the Two-Micron Sky Survey, the first infrared survey of the sky, which cataloged more than 5,000 infrared sources. Together with Eric Becklin, he discovered the Becklin-Neugebauer Object, an intense source of infrared radiation in the Orion Nebula that is (except for the Sun) the brightest object in the sky at wavelengths less than 10 micrometres.
Among Neugebauer's numerous awards are two NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medals (1972, 1984),
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Neugebauer

James R. Houck (born 1940) is the Kenneth A. Wallace Professor of Astronomy at Cornell University.
Houck pioneered infrared observational astronomy, designing detectors and spectrographs that were flown on sounding rockets in the 1960s, on airborne observatories in the 1970s, and the Infrared Astronomical Satellite (IRAS) in 1984 and the Spitzer Space Telescope in 2003. He also led development of Cornell's instrumentation for the Palomar Observatory Hale Telescope.
NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal (1984) "for outstanding contributions to IRAS, including efforts in the rebuilding of the telescope focal plane assembly and continuing scientific analysis."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Houck

Note: both received achievement medals from NASA right after the article and claim of finding this “planet” (I doubt if these awards were for being the best liars) LOL!

All in all, if this “giant Planet” was nearing Earth and within the inner solar system, common sense would suggest that all of us would be able to see it with the naked eye considering the way these two scientists describe it in the article. It would be surely heating up if it was heading towards our Sun IMO.

The article also mentions that it (Nibiru?) was discovered by an “orbiting telescope” aboard a US infrared astronomical satellite? HUH? I can’t find any info that this telescope actually existed in the early mid 1980’s…..before then or since then. (These two scientists could of “slipped” up though and mentioned a top secret telescope to the journalist who wrote the article).

Unless this is it: (can't find no Palomar connection except the mention of NASA)

The Infrared Astronomical Satellite (IRAS) was the first-ever space-based observatory to perform a survey of the entire sky at infrared wavelengths.
Launched on January 25, 1983, its mission lasted ten months. The telescope was a joint project of the United States (NASA), the Netherlands (NIVR), and the United Kingdom (SERC). Over 250,000 infrared sources were observed at 12, 25, 60, and 100 micrometer wavelengths.
The observatory made headlines briefly with the announcement on December 10, 1983 of the discovery of an "unknown object" at first described as "possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system."[4] However, further analysis revealed that, of several unidentified objects, nine were distant galaxies and the tenth was "intergalactic cirrus".[5] None were found to be Solar System bodies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRAS

Their main website (Palomar):

Palomar Observatory
http://www.astro.caltech.edu/palomar/

Palomar Observatory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palomar_Observatory

BTW: Cannot find anything about Thomas O’Toole, the guy who wrote the article.

The full article from Bill’s screen shot:

Possibly as Large as Jupiter; Mystery Heavenly Body Discovered
http://planet-x.150m.com/washpost.html
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/07/washington-post-1983-planet-x-elenin.html

ADDED:

Also in this article it claims this object is located in the western area of the constellation of Orion....odds are, it is probably still right there in that area of the sky regardless of how far or how close it is today.

Bill Ryan

27th September 2012, 13:36

Today, 27th September, the time window has elapsed. Does anyone have any news of a sighting?

If Planet X were anywhere nearby, tens of thousands of amateur astronomers with high quality telescopes, all over the world and unaffiliated to any organization, would be screaming from the rooftops -- and competing for the huge kudos granted to the publicly acclaimed discoverer, who would also get to name the object as they chose.

It's out there, but it's not close yet. I'm inclined to believe Bob Dean's report of 2017 (http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/bob_dean_nibiru_interview_transcript_en.html). Not last week, or next week! Planet X is not among the problems we face right now. Everyone is getting excited a little too early. Wait several years, and then things may get much more interesting.

SilentFeathers

27th September 2012, 13:41

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Today, 27th September, the time window has elapsed. Does anyone have any news of a sighting?

If Planet X were anywhere nearby, tens of thousands of amateur astronomers with high quality telescopes, all over the world and unaffiliated to any organization, would be screaming fromt the rooftops -- and competing for the huge kudos granted to the publicly claimed discoverer, who would also get to name the object as they chose.

It's out there, but it's not close yet. I'm inclined to believe Bob Dean's report of 2017 (http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/bob_dean_nibiru_interview_transcript_en.html). Not last week, or next week! Planet X is not among the problems we face right now. Everyone is getting excited a little too early. Wait several years, and then things may get much more interesting.

Totally agree, more pressing "events" are happening right now that are a bit more in our face.....like problems with food, water, draconian/sinister laws and behaviors, and WARS.

araucaria

27th September 2012, 13:57

SilentFeathers

27th September 2012, 14:08

Thanks SilentFeathers. There is talk in there of 'intergalactic cirrus'. There wouldn't by any chance be any mention of this 'intragalactic cumulonimbus' (my phrase) that the solar system is stated by some to be beginning to pass through?

Everything is in a state of constant change....and our solar system is now in a different spot in the cosmos than it was a minute ago, forever heading "somewhere". My opinion would be that our solar system right now is in some kind of turbulence or passing through some strange energy rift or field, considering all the stuff I've read the past few years about all the planets getting warmer, weird storms on the gas giants, the Sun acting weird, Earth Changes, etc.

Don't believe Al Gore and think all of this is being caused by underarm deodorant spray cans and car exhaust!

Nick Matkin

27th September 2012, 17:41

Regarding the upcoming object flying toward earth, here is a quote from the andromedacouncil.com website,:
"This celestial object is an asteroid approximately 6 miles long x 10 miles wide. It is called: "Nahiei Nimi" by the commander of the primary Andromeda Council biosphere in his native language of the planet Dakote. [...] when it passes by Earth people will see a huge silver glow around it (about 20 miles around) and it will present a silver tail as it flies by the Earth. Perspective wise, it will appear in the sky to people looking at it from Earth... to be about half the size of a high mid-day sun.

Well, it's the 27 September. Anyone spotted it? I've got a new pair of Nikon 10x50 bins. Where should I be looking?

Regards,

Nick

Midnight Rambler

27th September 2012, 19:42

Actually, this is true (!)

http://projectavalon.net/Planet_X_Washington_Post_1983_p1.jpg

See OBJECT, A12 Col. 1
http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/pulsar-wash-post2.gif

Alien Ramone

27th September 2012, 20:40

Here is the conventional explanation from the Bad Astronomy website about the 1983 IRAS incident that was mentioned in this thread, based on later correspondense with Neugebauer and an article published in Astrophysical journal in 1984:
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/science.html

Guess which it turned out to be? Sure enough, much deeper images were taken, and some of the objects were found to be dense gas clouds in our own Galaxy, while others turned out to be very distant galaxies. In fact, these observations heralded the discovery of a new type of object: Ultra-luminous Infrared Galaxies (ULIRGs). These are galaxies in which there is a burst of stars being born. The cocoons of dust in which the stars are enshrouded generates copious infrared, which is what was detected by IRAS. They published these results in the prestigious Astrophysical Journal, and you can even read it yourself.

ExomatrixTV

29th September 2012, 16:18

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~credits video: http://youtube.com/dutchsinse & more info: http://goo.gl/cShxD

"..C/2012 S1 .... 'will be one of the greatest comets in human history' far outshining hale-bopp.."

"Right now, 2012 S1 appears to be about 615 million miles (990 million kilometers) from Earth, between the orbits of Saturn and Jupiter, astronomers say."

"It's thought that this is the first time this particular comet has ever passed through the inner solar system -- meaning it's never been blasted by the sun before.
Its brightness magnitude is expected to be -16. In comparison, the sun has a magnitude of -26, and Comet Hale-Bopp was magnitude -1.".

Mike Gorman

29th September 2012, 16:51

More from Dutchsinse ...implications of this ..reminds of the H.G Wells story where the comet
comes in very close and all these changes take place, narrowly missing the earth-as bright as the sun.
Why have we not been aware of this one?

Carmody

29th September 2012, 16:54

Absolute scale based on Vega
Main article: Absolute magnitude

The star Vega has been defined as having a magnitude of zero, or at least near. Modern instruments such as bolometers and radiometers give Vega a brightness of about 0.03. The brightest star, Sirius, has a magnitude of −1.46. or −1.5. However, Vega has been found to vary in brightness, and other standards have been proposed.[9]

The scale is done BACKWARD to human expectations, which is why the sun has a negative 26 (-26) number, and the moon, a negative 13 (-13) number.

Therefore, this is expected to seem nearly as bright, to the eye, as the moon is.

Not as big maybe, so not as much light reflected from the sun... but simply nearly as bright as a spot on the full moon that would be as wide, on the moon ...as the given thing/object that we see.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnitude_%28astronomy%29

Wind

29th September 2012, 17:23

This brings the Blue star Kachina prophecy to my mind...

kreagle

29th September 2012, 18:45

Hey folks,

Here's another video on this comet that is extremely interesting. It shows about it's orbit and is quite fascinating, IMO.

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Your brother, friend, and servant,............kreagle

mescalitto

29th September 2012, 21:39

Thanks for this post, wow this one looks like its going to be close

ghostrider

30th September 2012, 04:36

This brings the Blue star Kachina prophecy to my mind...

could also be the red kachina. something is affecting our solar system.

Cjay

30th September 2012, 05:15

Will be fun to watch but probably won't have a noticable effect on Earth.

kreagle

30th September 2012, 05:17

This brings the Blue star Kachina prophecy to my mind...

could also be the red kachina. something is affecting our solar system.

ghostrider,

This 'something affecting our solar system' could be what we were talking about on an earlier 'thread',.....'Sun Worship'. PurpleLama brought up that the 'prophet' made reference to the 'Sun of righteousness', to which I gave the passage, (and meaning), out of Book of Malachi. I've supplied the link, for convenience, to those who might like to take a look.

Link: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50332-Sun-Worship&p=561619&viewfull=1#post561619

By the way,....could you, or someone else, supply the information, or links, to the 'Blue, or red, star Kachina'. I'm not familiar with this and would like to be 'educated', my dear friend.

Your brother, friend, and servant,........kreagle

Sirius White

30th September 2012, 06:56

This brings the Blue star Kachina prophecy to my mind...

could also be the red kachina. something is affecting our solar system.

THe red star is the body mentioned in OP's title. You are right on.

Sirius White

30th September 2012, 06:59

Sitchin is wrong in his calculations, as far as I know.

Today, 27th September, the time window has elapsed. Does anyone have any news of a sighting?

If Planet X were anywhere nearby, tens of thousands of amateur astronomers with high quality telescopes, all over the world and unaffiliated to any organization, would be screaming from the rooftops -- and competing for the huge kudos granted to the publicly acclaimed discoverer, who would also get to name the object as they chose.

It's out there, but it's not close yet. I'm inclined to believe Bob Dean's report of 2017 (http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/bob_dean_nibiru_interview_transcript_en.html). Not last week, or next week! Planet X is not among the problems we face right now. Everyone is getting excited a little too early. Wait several years, and then things may get much more interesting.

Great post Bill.

Although I have heard that gravitational time dilation (there is actually a decent topic about it and the annunaki on GLP) might be the reason why it is not visible in the "light spectrum." It has been recorded and seen by NASA though IMO- often by infrared. I actually have friends who have seen it already with some of the amateur satellite systems (public), including some blotted out stuff. I'm talking about the stuff you can use on the internet (by anybody). Also, notice the orbits/spins being affected in solar system planets.

Also, according to legend the thing is a planetoid (a mobile planet and battlestar) more so then just a planet.

Deacon (one of the people you interviewed) called it the "second sun."

Fear nor worry for this is an appropriate response. :) I personally don't think there is anything to worry about.

Peace out.

Oh and Bill, that interview is amazing, and SPOT on IMO !

(please don't quote this post, TY).

stomy

30th September 2012, 10:06

2012: Observatory of Paris: Photochemistry on Venus: a very fast evolution
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-photochemistry-on-venus-a-very-fast-evolution-110697747.html

2012: Observatory of Paris: Discovery of a strong dissipation of energy inside Saturn
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-discovery-of-a-strong-dissipation-of-energy-inside-saturn-110697450.html

2012: Europlanet Research Infrastructure: Titan shows surprising seasonal changes
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-titan-shows-surprising-seasonal-changes-110696491.html

Hermite

30th September 2012, 11:13

Kreagle, there are a number of links that are easily found but this one gives lots of info and has great pictures. http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi2.html
Hopi Blue Star or Blue Kachina Prophecy

Nick Matkin

30th September 2012, 12:19

Looks like it could be quite spectacular, but let's not get carried away here folks - astronomers have already said the final brightness is difficult to predict. But hey, the tabloid press, popular media and much of our 'alternative media' aren't going to let the facts spoil the story.

Now, this forum MUST surely have some professional or keen amateur astronomers amongst its members. So before some of us get swept away by the 'Fear Porn' this comet will inevitably stir up, could some of these astronomers please come out and explain why this comet is:

1) Not going to collide with Earth

2) Not going to cause a massive solar flare

3) Not going to cause a polar shift (either magnetic or rotational)

4) Not cause a huge changes in our weather (might need a meteorologist for that one)

5) Not Planet X/Nibiru/the Sun's evil twin, etc.

6) Not the cause of "changes in the solar system" - whatever they are...

7) And not some piloted craft behaving in an 'impossible' way on its mission to spread either doom or enlightenment amongst us Earthlings.

Thanks. I can't wait for the show, but isn't there another less spectacular comet due in March 2013?

Nick

Kristin

30th September 2012, 13:09

Any news on possible dates to observe this comet?

OBwan

30th September 2012, 14:29

Nassim Haramein discusses a V1 comet almost twice the size of Jupiter that came into our solar system in the following video. This comet did not make the mainstream news. Nassim made the comments, “They did not tell us because they thought we were toast,” and “We should not be here.”

He also made the comments, “We are floating in Grace” and “Someone is taking care of us”. I choose to think (believe) that someone is still taking care of us.

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Nick Matkin

30th September 2012, 17:28

Nassim Haramein discusses a V1 comet almost twice the size of Jupiter that came into our solar system in the following video.
zjD5aayptXk

Twice the size of Jupiter? That makes it visible by the naked eye. Even if it were too far away to be obvious, something that big would easily be visible by the thousands of amateur astronomers.

"It would have produced huge tidal waves on this planet." How? Is this guy a real physicists or astronomer? Nahhh...

Nick

P.S. The Big Comet due brightest end November/beginning December 2013. But don't worry, there's 21 Dec 2012 to get through first...

Sirius White

30th September 2012, 20:52

[QUOTE=OBwan;561920]
P.S. The Big Comet due brightest end November/beginning December 2013. But don't worry, there's 21 Dec 2012 to get through first...

Actually this is really interesting.

sdv

1st October 2012, 09:20

I think there is a lot of hype about size, and a lot of over confident pronouncements about dates.

However, it is quite possible for a large meteoriteto hit Earth, and we don't see it coming. This happened recently (looked like a helicopter crash to witnesses, but no sign of a ny kind of crash, so the conclusion is that it was a meteorite): http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/maybe-a-meteorite-but-not-a-helicopter-1.1392818

Cape Town had its own “it’s a bird! It’s a plane!” moment when multiple reports that a helicopter had crashed off the coast of Blouberg on Friday night saw rescuers across the spectrum mobilised, only to turn up… nothing.

Reports included suggestions of “something flying through the air that looked like a shooting star or rocket”, complete with green light and in one case, a flash of flame, which suddenly disappeared.

By yesterday morning not a scrap of wreckage had turned up, however. And NSRI spokesman Craig Lambinon reported that what the witnesses were likely to have seen was in fact “meteorite fall”.

Or maybe it was a UFO that crashed! :cool2:

Case Rijsdijk, who writes a regular astronomy column in The Good Weekend, said, however, that it was unlikely to have been a meteorite, although he couldn’t offer an alternative explanation either.

“If a meteorite the size of a helicopter had hit the sea just off Blouberg, the whole world would know about it. That would be a real event,” he said.

araucaria

1st October 2012, 19:40

greybeard

1st October 2012, 19:52

Please note the size which I have highlighted and underlined.
Comet Holmes was possibly the largest ever and was credited by some as being the famed blue star.

Comet Holmes
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

17P/Holmes 17pHolmes 071104 eder vga.jpgComet Holmes on November 4, 2007, showing the blue ion tail on the right, taken from Hungary
Discovery
Discovery date November 6, 1892
Alternative
designations 1892 V1; 1892 III;
1892f; 1899 L1;
1899 II; 1899d;
1906 III; 1906f;
1964 O1; 1964 X;
1964i; 1972 I;
1971b; 1979 IV;
1979f; 1986 V;
1986f; 1993 VII;
1993i
Orbital characteristics A
Epoch October 27, 2007 (JD 2454400.5)
Aphelion 5.183610 AU
Perihelion 2.053218 AU
Semi-major axis 3.618414 AU
Eccentricity 0.432564
Orbital period 6.882994 a
Inclination 19.1126°
Last perihelion May 4, 2007[1]
Next perihelion March 27, 2014[1][2]

Comet Holmes (official designation: 17P/Holmes) is a periodic comet in the Solar System, discovered by the British amateur astronomer Edwin Holmes on November 6, 1892. Although normally a very faint object, Holmes became notable during its October 2007 return when it temporarily brightened by a factor of about half a million, in what was the largest known outburst by a comet, and became visible to the naked eye. It also briefly became the largest object in the solar system, as its coma (the thin dissipating dust ball around the comet) expanded to a diameter greater than that of the Sun (although its mass remained minuscule).[3]

Regards Chris

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/newly-discovered-comet-may-outshine-moon-112511688.html

A newly-discovered comet should become one of the brightest lights in the sky - even outshining the Moon, according to astronomers.

Russian astronomers recently spotted comet 2012 S1 (ISON) 90 million kilometres from the Earth, according to a report by National Geographic .

It is currently a faint glow streaking between Saturn and Jupiter, but as the Sun's gravity draws the comet closer, dust and ice will be blasted off, it giving it a highly-reflective tail.

Depending on how big the tails gets, the three-kilometre wide comet may become more visible for a few months in late 2013 and early 2014.

"If it lives up to expectations, this comet may be one of the brightest in history," Raminder Singh Samra of the H R MacMillan Space Centre in Canada told National Geographic.

The comet already seems to be following the path of the Great Comet of 1690, which was one of the most stunning ever seen from Earth.

It should also pass about 10 million kilometres from Mars, possibly providing Nasa's new Curiosity rover with a spectacular view.

But Mr Samra warned scientists should be cautious about predicting the brightness of comets, as they have failed to live up to expectations in the past.

SilentFeathers

1st October 2012, 20:21

Surprised the GFL fan club haven't grabbed ahold of this and spun it in to something such as the mothership coming with their elite ninja's to help save humanity and the planet.....we'll see, they've got 12 months to apply their spin on it.

Added: Don't forget about Comet Elenin.....that was an alien space ship, wait, was Nibiru, wait, was a dwarf star that was going to flip the earth over and destroy everything, wait, was just a comet, wait......was it even a comet????? I didn't see anything!!!!!!

OBwan

2nd October 2012, 01:40

The comet Neat was discussed previously in the old forum.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3416

8th Brightest

Using the thread number 3416, pointed me to wikipedia.org

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2002_V1_(NEAT)

Comet C/2002 V1 (NEAT) is a non-periodic comet that appeared in November 2002. The comet peaked with an apparent magnitude of approximately –0.5, making it the 8th brightest comet seen since 1935.[4] It was seen by SOHO in February 2003. At perihelion the comet was only 0.099258 AU (14,848,800 km; 9,226,600 mi) from the Sun. (Slight controversy arose when the comet failed to break up when it approached the sun, as expected by some scientists if it were a small comet.)

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/2003_02_12/

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/asset.php?fid=14152&uid=5201&d=1349140958

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3416

The following is some text from the thread. Errrr NO because a comet does not have the MASS. It actually grew bigger than the Sun in a 24 hour period... was even visible without aids

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18459&d=1349140980

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2012_S1

C/2012 S1 (ISON) is a sungrazing comet discovered on 21 September 2012 by Vitali Nevski (Vitebsk, Belarus) and Artyom Novichonok (Kondopoga, Russia). The discovery was made using the 0.4-metre (16 in) reflector of the International Scientific Optical Network near Kislovodsk, Russia.[1] Precovery images by the Mount Lemmon Survey from 28 December 2011 and by Pan-STARRS from 28 January 2012 were quickly located.[2] Follow-up observations were made on 22 September by a team from Remanzacco Observatory in Italy using the iTelescope network.[1][4] The discovery was announced by the Minor Planet Center on 24 September, three days after the discovery.

Doctor

3rd October 2012, 01:25

How many comets/planets/objects have they said would pass by us this year alone? Have any of them even come close?? Did they even exist?

I'll believe it when I see it.

Nick Matkin

3rd October 2012, 12:06

I've just re-watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjD5aayptXk), Physicist Nassim Haramein.

To me it looks completely full of B.S. It's part of an eight-hour presentation made in 2003.

He actually told the audience (between their "ooohhs" and "ahhhs") that the comet should have pulled Mercury into the sun. WHAT? And that it was twice as big as Jupiter (and no back-yard astronomer spotted this new celestial object?)

I Googled him, and my views of his odd grasp on physics are confirmed all over the net. "A physics crank" seem to be some of the milder adjectives used to describe him. Now we all know pioneers of new theories are often dismissed as cranks, but sometimes cranks turn out to be just that - cranks.

So a wider question; does he and people like him believe what their own stuff? I can understand his audience listening uncritically, as they probably have no background in the subject - nothing wrong with that. But isn't he guilty of misleading members of the public? If the audience paid, when is the line crossed between entertainment and fraud?

I think David Ike is a classic case; some would say he's a fraud taking money from gullible people. Well even if he does, it hasn't given him a James-Bond lifestyle. I think much of what he says is bollocks, but he's a good speaker and at least some of his stuff is thought provoking - and that's a very good thing.

But this Nassim Harmein - why does he do it?

Nick

OBwan

3rd October 2012, 13:42

I have watched David’s and Nassim’s presentations and read their text. Some of their information I cannot wrap my brain around. For me, the necklace Credo Mutwa wears that David discusses in one of his interviews is amazing.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/asset.php?fid=14166&uid=5201&d=1349271439

Klause Dona is another example of a man who has challenged my reality.

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“Why question” are a thought process that involves what a person believes and values. Beliefs have a hierarchical sorting method. Core thought beliefs are used when other beliefs do not allow for a conclusion. Beliefs do change. What you believed as a child is different than when you are an adult.

Values also have a hierarchical sorting method and like beliefs do change with time. People will put their life at a higher value than their home if the building is burning. A child coming into one’s life has changed parent’s lifestyles completely.

Once values and beliefs are determined, these thoughts create different conclusion, which results in values and beliefs being reevaluated. On-going life experiences impacts the value and belief thought process. At any given moment, an answer to a “Why Question” can be different.

By searching for truth, this results in information appearing. In my reality, Bill’s quest for truth resulted in Klaus coming into his life. Thank you Bill!

Evidence of truth such as the Earth not being the center of the Universe was not concluded until the mathematics was proven and accepted. I see Klaus, Nassim, David, and Bill having a quest for truth to assist mankind.

There are many other men and women who have worked to find truth. Time has proven and dis-proven the work of many. I have an honor and respect for those who choose to live their truth. As they live their truth, I find my truth.

Why do they or do it?

Simply stated, based upon their values and beliefs they have come to a conclusion. As an observer, I see their conclusions are love for humanity.

To Bill, Klause, Nassim, David and those reading this post, I bid you Namaste.

Albert Einstein was fasinated by Mohandas Gandhi. He watched newsreel after newsreel of Gandhi's doings in India. having seen Gandhi greet people in the street with his hands placed together, as if in prayer, and with a bow, he wondered what Gandhi was saying (newsreels had no sound in those days). Einstein wrote Gandhi and asked him what he was saying. The simple reply: "Namaste." Einstein then wrote again to ask the meaning of this hindu word, "Namaste", and the reply was:

"I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides. I honor the place in you of light, love, truth, peace and wisdom. I honor the place in you where, when you are in that place, and I am in that place, there is only one of us."

stomy

7th October 2012, 10:25

2012: European Space Agency: A curious cold layer in the atmosphere of Venus
Source: http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-european-space-agency-a-curious-cold-layer-in-the-atmosphere-of-venus-110763692.html
2012: Weather On Mars Surprisingly Warm, Curiosity Rover Finds
Source: http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-weather-on-mars-surprisingly-warm-curiosity-rover-finds-110763924.html

Sirius White

8th October 2012, 03:52

:)

.........................

Lone Bean

10th October 2012, 16:57

I've been watching a documentary called, "Astronauts of the Gods" on Netflix and I'm having trouble with "life on Nibiru" concept. If this planet does exist, and it's orbital pattern is a huge, oval-like ellipse around the sun, making a full orbit every 3,600 years, then how could life possibly live on it? I think it would be beyond frozen and extremely dark being so far away from the sun until it got closer. Pluto is frozen and Nibiru is supposed to be way further out from the sun than Pluto.

I'd like to understand it better, but it just doesn't add up.

RMorgan

10th October 2012, 17:14

Hey mate,

Well, the word Nibiru as most people know it comes from Zecharia Sitchin´s literature, which supposedly is translated from Sumerian tablets.

Many ancient languages specialists claim that Sitchin´s work is not accurate and his translations are completely wrong.

A lot of people keep talking about Annunaki and Nibiru as if they are fruits of a very serious and correct scientific translation work, while in fact, this might not be the case.

There are websites, like this one (http://www.sitchiniswrong.com) which points and explains Sitchin´s flaws. Click here (http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/letter/letter.htm) to read an open letter from this website´s author.

Here´s what they say about Nibiru:

Those familiar with either the writings of Zecharia Sitchin or the current internet rantings about “the return of Planet X” are likely familiar with the word “nibiru”. According to self-proclaimed ancient languages scholar Zecharia Sitchin, the Sumerians knew of an extra planet beyond Pluto. This extra planet was called Nibiru. Sitchin goes on to claim that Nibiru passes through our solar system every 3600 years. Some believers in Sitchin’s theory also refer to Nibiru as “Planet X”, the name given to a planet that is allegedly located within our solar system but beyond Pluto. Adherents to the “returning Planet X hypothesis” believe the return of this wandering planet will bring cataclysmic consequences to earth.

Is Sitchin correct – Is Nibiru a 12th planet that passes through our solar system every 3600 years? Did the Sumerians know this? Unfortunately for Sitchin and his followers, the answer to each of these questions is no. But how do I know? The cuneiform record in such texts as the one on the left, the astronomical text known as MUL.APIN (The "Plough Star").

Readers can click here* for a summary paper I wrote on the word nibiru in cuneiform texts. What follows draws from that paper and, in the case of the video, demonstrates the accuracy of my contention that there isn't a single text in the entire cuneiform record that:

Has nibiru as a planet beyond Pluto
Connects nibiru with the Anunnaki
Has nibiru cycling through our solar system every 3600 years
Searching for Nibiru in Cuneiform Texts

Here is a video** that I created showing you where to find the leading dictionary of cuneiform words online (for free). Viewers can find that source and do what I do in the rest of the video: look up the entry for nibiru (spelled neberu in scholarly transliteration) and check to see if any of the above ideas are found in any Akkadian or Sumerian texts that mention nibiru. Spoiler: there aren't any -- but don't take my word for it. Look it up yourself.

*Here´s the link for the above cited paper about Nibiru:
http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/nibirunew.pdf

** Here´s the link to the above cited video:
http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/nibiru/nibiru.html

You can also go to the Electronic Text Corpus of Sumerian Literature (http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/etcsl.cgi?charenc=gcirc), which is basically a Sumerian dictionary, and search for the words yourself. (It´s a bit complex)

You´ll see that, according to this dictionary, Sitchen´s translations are not accurate and don´t represent the real meanings of the original Sumerian texts.

Personally, I´ve read a few of his books when I was a teenager and really liked them. They were important in my awakening process. However, nowadays I consider them mostly as fiction.

Cheers,

Raf.

4evrneo

10th October 2012, 18:07

I agree, Sitchen's books are a fascinating read but IMO they just dont add up.
Annette

kersley

10th October 2012, 18:57

I have all of Sitchin's books I was a great fan . Now I read them as fiction.

ghostrider

11th October 2012, 02:56

Ptaah and quetzal say sitchin was part of a disinfo campaign and not very accurate with the translations, all he did was muddy the waters. The Plejaren people along with the High council of Andromeda are in charge of earth. Their decendants our ancestors wrote those writings , built those pyramids, on earth and mars. space travelers from a different space time configuration.

Sirius White

12th October 2012, 22:59

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Most of you have probably already figured out why Obama sucks in his debates, and cancelled all his meetings over a period of time =D

stomy

19th October 2012, 19:39

2012: University of Wisconsin: Disturbances on Uranus
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-university-of-wisconsin-disturbances-on-uranus-111448645.html

2012: National Astronomical Observatory of Japan: Multiple Observations Reveal Unprecedented Changes on Jupiter
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-multiple-observations-reveal-unprecedented-changes-on-jupiter-111412685.html

Star Tsar

20th October 2012, 03:11

Donnie Gilson & Alfred Lambremont Webre
18-10-12

Listening now so I can't really give a synopsis.
:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTkxyUmOdpY&feature=player_detailpage

Article Also

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2012/10/hercolubus-nibiru-planet-x-tyche-nemesis-wormwood-update-with-donny-gilson.html

Please listen as I feel if one does not have detractors then your not on the right track....

:peace:

Sidney

20th October 2012, 04:44

worth listening to for sure.

stomy

21st October 2012, 12:01

Mikhail Maslov of Russia: 209P-ids 2014: prediction of activity
http://revivall.over-blog.com/article-mikhail-maslov-of-russia-209p-ids-2014-prediction-of-activity-111484395.html

Mutchie

21st October 2012, 16:24

I myself went through a stage where i was reading everything on this subject and the evidence was compelling i mean Harrington did find something and he was going to tell the world but he died very quickly so he never got the chance that initself was strange .... stomy where do you think planet x is now and what date do you think we should watch out for ?

Referee

5th November 2012, 05:22

A new video shows some interesting new analysis of the possibility of Planet X

The video theorizes about sun diving comets comming in from a specific space corridor and talks about the earth aligning with that corridor and Jupiter being 90 degrees from that alignment and causing geological events.

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GoodETxSG

5th November 2012, 16:39

So much muddy water and dis-info and Proven Wrong... no quite so proven wrong opinions... its just the story that will not go away. I remember way back when science used to talk about this like it was decades in the future and who cares... then they switched over to deny anything like it as being possible. Past Intel work has taught me one thing... "I DO NOT KNOW"... just have to wait and see. This story will not go away until at least 2016 because of other comets and what not flying around in future NEO's and paths.

Mutchie

13th November 2012, 17:21

I just want to say that i agree with GoodeTXSG.... when you look into the beginings of this story its real Dr Harrington found something which he was about to anounce to the whole world but then he was mysteriously struck down with a disease which took him out really quickly it may have been cancer i cant remember then this story was swept under the carpet and or ridiculed but its still here ..... is there truth to it ?

MorningSong

13th November 2012, 18:15

RMorgan

13th November 2012, 20:30

Hmmm...well....
I saw this over at beforeitsnews yesterday:

Alert-Nibiru Asteroid Collision News Articles Were Removed
Friday, November 9, 2012 0:42

All original postings have been deleted/redacted. CNN, NBC, BBC, Aljazeera, and others reported it. I have a few screenshots of the postings.

Basically they released info that we had a 30% chance to collide with what they are calling an asteroid (pics look more like a planetoid) sometime near the end of December to early January.

BBC screenshot.........

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/11/alert-nibiru-asteroid-collision-news-articles-were-removed-2492862.html

and today there's this:

Asteroid 'Nibiru' On Collision Course With Earth, According To NASA Whistleblowers
By MFaircloth83 | Posted November 5, 2012

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-872812

Needless to say, something is still boiling in the pot....

Hey there,

All these news are totally fake.

Anyone can edit a html code of a certain webpage just for fun, changing it´s contents (offline) and then take a screen shot of it; or even edit it in photoshop.

That´s why they didn´t include the original html addresses on the print screens.

Anyway, just look at the supposed BBC screenshots, where they say that Bradford and Manchester suffered with riots after NASA asteroid declaration....It just didn´t happen. I´m sure we have a lot of people who live near these cities and can confirm that.

I´ve warned you guys many times about this "beforeitsnews" website. It´s a total disinformation site, pretty much like Sorcha Faal.

That CNN´s "ireport" doesn´t count as a source, because it´s a free space made for the public, so they can publish their own news independently. Anyone can publish there.

Cheers,

Raf.

Mutchie

13th November 2012, 21:12

So before its news is all bs ? I did wander thank you

RMorgan

13th November 2012, 21:25

So before its news is all bs ? I did wander thank you

It´s not all BS, mate. It´s made of a lot of BS with some genuine articles here and there, like most part of similar websites. :)

Referee

14th November 2012, 07:47

Bumping Everyone needs to see this thread Rmorgan please leave this thread alone Thanks

Bill Ryan

14th November 2012, 12:03

Bumping Everyone needs to see this thread Rmorgan please leave this thread alone Thanks

The Beforeitsnews and CNN iReport articles are both obvious hoaxes. The impact of an object that size with Earth would be the end of civilization overnight. An asteroid "the size of Texas" would be 800 miles across and would have been visible and trackable many years ago.

The reports, if they were real, (a) would have been seen by millions of people, (b) would still be there in http://archive.org, and (c) still be there in Google's cache. They're not there. :)

MorningSong

14th November 2012, 20:20

Why does everyone need to see that I have once again been made a complete fool of , may I ask???????

No prob, hey...water off the duck's back. Sorry if I mislead anyone. Not the first time and, 'til I die of embarassment, won't be the last, I guess.

Sidney

22nd November 2012, 04:07

Whether or not this is a lens flare, I thought it interesting that they used this particular photo. Maybe the fog was put there to cover up what they don't want us to see???

Heres the link.

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/flight-delays-mounting-in-dens/1814186

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ExomatrixTV

22nd November 2012, 04:13

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Hervé

22nd November 2012, 04:27

Right... TWO pairs of sunglasses.

Operator

22nd November 2012, 04:46

chiki

22nd November 2012, 06:46

It's been sitting near the sun for over two years http://poleshift.ning.com/ in the same spot, I think your on the ball operator, there Is a theory that we follow the sun in a vortec like the pics att:
http://prof77.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/spiral_solar_system_2_for_web.jpg if that true then you would see it move around the I've only every seen on poleshift ning in the same spot.

KiwiElf

22nd November 2012, 06:51

These videos have been popping up for almost two-plus years now, especially some taken from Antarctica, also showing a second "planetary object" (Also sighted near Mercury at the beginning of 2012). It may not be Niburu, but something seems to be there, hidden from the naked eye in the glare of the Sun.

KiwiElf

22nd November 2012, 06:55

On this website they also talk about Planet X/Niburu right next to the sun: http://poleshift.ning.com/

But I wonder how this would be at all possible ... We move 360 degrees around the sun during a year.
So as we progress through time it can not stay (viewing angle) close/next to the sun all the time.
Unless of course it would be physically real close to the sun (possible?).

Anyone else thoughts on this?

Interesting movie about a parallel planet on the other side of the Sun, always opposite to us out of our view (and they out of ours). Was called "Doppelganger" in some places, and "Journey to the Far Side of the Sun" in others. Interesting theory :)

Hervé

22nd November 2012, 07:04

Caveat: that http://poleshift.ning.com/ is a daughter website to "Zetatalk" Nancy Lieder who has been at it for decades now, every time pushing the Nibiru/Planet X catastrophe into the future each time it didn't happen from way back in the 80s... like Hoagland or David Wilcock.

Here from their FAQ on that website:

Q: What is this Ning about?
This Ning is providing people with information about earth changes, the pending pole shift, how to survive these events and the life afterwards.

Q: What is allowed on this Ning?
http://poleshift.ning.com/page/premise-and-rules
http://poleshift.ning.com/page/main-establishment-lies

Q: What is Zetatalk?
http://www.zetatalk.com/ contains vast amount of information being relayed by the Zetas in answer to questions posed to their emissary, Nancy Lieder.
The"Zetas" are a alien species, originating from the zeta reticuli star system and inform mankind about the earth changes and the pending Pole Shift.
http://www.zetatalk.com/nancybio.htm

Q: What is the Poleshift?
http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p00.htm

Hervé

22nd November 2012, 07:14

... sorry, duplicate posting due to some troubles accessing PA.

Well, to make this wasted space more usefull:

My, my, my... here we go again...

Here is from Ken Adachi, a former devoted Zeta sucker (a certain PT Barnum reckoned there's one born every minute... so it's a never ending story):

I had expected Nancy Leider and Zeta Talk to disappear from the Internet following the 2003 fiasco, but I guess a built up CIA/NASA/military disinformation psyops like Zeta Talk is simply too juicy a scam to just abandon, so they profer a truly moronic and pathetic 'White Lie (http://zetatalk.com/index/psdate2.htm)' excuse to explain away their prediction failure and just move the date up another eleven years to 2012! So we are treated with another eleven years of disinformation nonsense, fear mongering, anxiety promotion, worry promotion, fear of having children born into such a nightmare world, re-locating to remote, bare bones survial locations, etc., etc., for a whole new generation of suckers, rubes, and newbies who will buy into the Zeta Talk lie with the same wide eyed belief that I bought into it between 1995 and 2003, and wind up posting Youtube videos with ingenious sounding explantions of mysterious celestial body movements in the solar system accounting for this or that "HMO" and similar absurdities. .

I've also re-printed the current home page from ZetaTalk further below which includes links to the modified Pole Shift explanation mentioned above and the "White Lie' gambit. Remarkable, Nancy also includes the following statement on her current Zeta Talk (http://zetatalk.com/) home page:

"Note: Where Planet X came into the inner solar system in early 2003, it has not yet passed, though has gone through gyrations while passing the Sun's S Pole and adjusting to the Sun's magnetic field. Some ZetaTalk is best understood in the context of the date written. These topics, below, are organized by date written and should be read in order for a historical perspective. The increase in Earth changes and electromagnetic interference and evidence of Planet X in the inner solar system is palpable. For the very latest ZetaTalk, however, jump to the bottom for news about the current year!"

Here, we witness the lunacy, ridiculousness, and witlessness of Zeta Talk, Nancy Leider, and her handlers in full flower. She reports that this huge red planet, Nibiru, which she and Zeta Talk said was 4 times larger and 23 times more dense than Earth, had ENTERED the earth's solar system in 2003; yet still had not "passed."

How could a 'planet' 4 times larger than earth enter the earth's solar system in 2003 and not be seen by astronomers?

Full article and antecedents here:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/zetatalkrecycleddeception24mar12.shtml

ThePythonicCow

22nd November 2012, 07:21

... sorry, duplicate posting due to some troubles accessing PA.
The server gets a bit loaded at this time of day (an hour after midnight here), due to some program that our web hosting service provider runs. Such is life :).

Operator

22nd November 2012, 12:05

Caveat: that http://poleshift.ning.com/ is a daughter website to "Zetatalk" Nancy Lieder who has been at it for decades now, every time pushing the Nibiru/Planet X catastrophe into the future each time it didn't happen from way back in the 80s... like Hoagland or David Wilcock.

Thank you for pointing that out (I figured people would find that by themselves).
I tried to subscribe there in order to raise critical questions about this. My subscription was denied ... ;)

The thing I wanted to make clear is that either the observation is false or when there is really something
close to the sun for so many years it doesn't pose a thread to earth because it obviously isn't moving
toward us.

But my main take on this is just that the observation is false.

ExomatrixTV

22nd November 2012, 12:05

~getting more convincing day by day ... IF it is real ... does that explain massive underground bases (and even cities) worldwide being build last 100 years?

... I interviewed Richard Sauder Phd. in 2003 about Underground & Underwater Bases world wide ... I had visions of the future that we will know the truth about massive big cities being build in the Oceans floor with help from Aliens who are ancient relatives. Some of the giant "Mother Ships" are to evacuate us to those under water cities!

Sidney

22nd November 2012, 14:52

im going to bump this. opinions anyone?

earthadvocate

22nd November 2012, 17:19

I wonnder if this is not refering to the new found comet!
http://www.space.com/17762-newfound-comet-dazzling-2013-display-c2012s1.html

Tony

22nd November 2012, 19:08

When taking photos of objects in the sky, astrologers take a series of shot from a fixed position over a period of minutes. Then they run them in a video sequence, if one object moves position then they know it is something unusual.

ExomatrixTV

6th December 2012, 02:29

✦ Born Of Osiris - "Follow The Signs "Music Video" (MUST SEE Illuminati & More)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jy2MLw_JMJk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2CGwnwKaF10

✦ Coheed & Cambria - Here We Are Juggernaut (MUST SEE Planet X Illuminati Proof)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cLFtM4GIRA4

✦ Trivium - In Waves (Illuminati Planet X & More)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Xfvk028Kv0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EApnhO2OIrw

✦ Linkin Park - Burn It Down (Illuminati NWO 2012 Agenda)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dxytyRy-O1k

✦ Dionne Bromfield - Spinnin For London 2012 (Illuminati Olympic Agenda)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=o6P3a60mJzE

✦ Tenacious D - Rize of Fenix (Illuminati Planet X Nibiru)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ls3rD8VfiSY (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ls3rD8VfiSY&feature=channel&list=UL)

✦ Soulfly - World Scum (Illuminati Planet X)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=T_EPTbMPtdc

✦ Times Of Grace - Live In Love "Music Video" (Illuminati Wake Up Warning Message)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2XXSAfYOA7o

✦ Korn - Chaos Lives In Everything (2012 Music Video)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QwZwnZ4dKpA

✦ Lamb of God - Ghost Walking "Music Video" (Illuminati FEMA Camps Endgame)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sd_S1ZA11Bg

✦ Insane Clown Posse - Its All Over (Planet X End Days Proof)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sDncRIq64Lo

✦ Machine Head - Locust "Music Video" (Illuminati Agenda & Bible End Days)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bU7qme80jj0

✦ Black Veil Brides - Fallen Angels "Music Video" (Illuminati NWO)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VuGzJVKtW6g

✦ The Game - Martians Vs. Goblins (Illuminati, Devil/ Goblin)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gODGcVSzh1U

✦ Dev - Fireball (Illuminati)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cm0POLTxCLk

✦ Killswitch Engage - Save Me (Illuminati Alien Mars)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=L4oR878BNu8

✦ Dead By Sunrise - Crawl Back In (Planet X Illuminati)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-PQYwENwIuw

✦ Paradise Lost Erased (Music Video)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xjQtMioX6z4

✦ Lacuna Coil - Trip The Darkness (Illuminati & Spirit Channeling/ Another Dimension)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VTT6picaCoQ

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"The Individual Is Handicapped By Coming Face To Face With a Conspiracy So Monstrous, He Cannot Believe It Exists.
- J. Edgar Hoover

"You Can Fool Some of The People All of The Time & Those Are the Ones You Want To Concentrate On."
- George W. Bush

"Sarah, If The American People Had Ever Known The Truth About What We Bush's Have Done To This Nation, We Would Be Chased Down In The streets & Lynched."
- George Bush Sr

"Military Men Are Just Dumb Stupid Animals To Be Used As Pawns In Foreign Policy."
- Henry Kissinger

walshy0420

6th December 2012, 14:15

Isn't it interesting to see that so many metalheads are awakening? Say what you want about our music but you have to admit we're a savvy bunch :)

I think it's a combination of religious distrust and that sense of individualism that pervades so much in this genre that makes it easier to overcome the conditioning that maybe others are so beset by. Oh, and metal's fascination with the occult surely helps matters.

It's inspiring to see so many young bands producing this kind of output.

You can add Megadeth to the list as well and more underground bands like The Hidden Hand. And for the hip hop fans out there, do not forget Immortal Technique. He is an Illuminati-crushing one man army and someone whose path through the music industry a lot of people should take note of because he shunned the major labels to everyone's criticism only to make more money in the end by being independent. And he then invests his money into real projects like building a school in Afghanistan. A true role model in my eyes.

So yeah, loads of great metal bands have been at this for years now and whereas the mainstream bands like Muse and co might be criticised for watering things down a bit - don't forget they are on a massive label, too - underground metal will never be popular and that's where you'll find the purest motives when it comes to expressing the human spirit in the face of this vast conspiracy.

soleil

6th December 2012, 17:33

for those of us who cant youtube, can you provide some short summaries of the video and why they are related?

Referee

15th December 2012, 02:30

I went to see the Hobbit today which was a lot of fun. However, in the extended sneak peak Trailer for Star Trek into Darkness It features them going to Nibiru and deactivating a volcano. I can not find this trailer online.
The name of the planet Nibiru is clearly spelled out in the upper left hand corner of the screen.

They are chased through a red forest and they leave Spock behind in an out of control volcano to stabalize it and to save the planet Nibiru

In the short trailer below you can see the red forest I am talking about

Plus the Natives on Nibiru are savage like people painted in yellow and white very primitive.

I KID YOU NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

diP-o_JxysA

GoodETxSG

15th December 2012, 14:27

So...
A story stolen from the "fringe Media" and leveraged against our collective consciousness or... something more. Thanks for sharing. I cannot imagine sitting there and seeing all of that on the screen. It would blow my mind too.

Aurvandil

15th December 2012, 14:43

Interesting, must watch it, not just for the "bold" plot but for seeing Benedict Cumberbtach as a villain... ;)

Nanoo Nanoo

16th December 2012, 03:53

My god hollywood, you have seriously soiled the sanctity of film makng history.

Shame on you!

Meh

N

kersley

28th December 2012, 12:42

Hi Friends.
I hope you all had a wonderful festive xmas? And now ready for some work..
I came across this video on YouTube and it got me thinking.. Real of hoax?

Please take a look and lets have some feedback..
K

NASA Look at Nibiru on Video Close to Earth 6th December 2012 - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDp5dQvGIPo

Watching from Cyprus

28th December 2012, 12:57

Great find, lets see what comments comes up ...
Love Peter

13th Warrior

28th December 2012, 14:45

You really can’t miss Venus, as it’s the second-brightest celestial body to light up the nighttime after the moon. Look for this blazing beauty low in the east-southeast sky, starting around two hours before sunrise during the first few weeks of December. Venus will slowly but surely fall into the glare of morning twilight throughout the month but should be fairly easy pickings for the rest of December.

http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/visible-planets-tonight-mars-jupiter-venus-saturn-mercury

WyoSeeker

28th December 2012, 17:37

Interesting find. This couldn't be Jupiter or you would clearly see the moons and weather stripes at that level of zoom. It could possibly be Venus which is currently at full phase to us, but his claim about the orbiting body would not match that.

Warrants more technical analysis.

Tesseract

28th December 2012, 23:50

Light in the sky, therefore Nibiru. Genius.

DeDukshyn

29th December 2012, 00:35

Looked like Venus.

sheme

2nd February 2013, 17:21

I believe every word this man said. Worth a relisten. Thanks and blessings to you both.

http://projectavalon.net/Dr_Bill_Deagle_14_April_2010.mp3 The best talk on this subject for sure.

When I hear a genius - silence -ears mind open. Wow! Thanks for keeping mainly quiet Hat man.

Sidney

2nd February 2013, 19:13

Bill Ryan

2nd February 2013, 19:20

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Fixed in all the quotes. Here it is again: http://projectavalon.net/Dr_Bill_Deagle_14_April_2010.mp3

You may enjoy the following short extract from that conversation (though it's not about Planet X). It's hilarious -- one of the few times I really got Dr Bill laughing.

http://projectavalon.net/Dr_Bill_Deagle_Bill_Ryan_Project_Avalon_14_April_2010_extract.mp3 (6 mins, 2.4 Mb)

sheme

2nd February 2013, 19:45

How appropriate it's Ground hog Day! Thank you Bill, yes I enjoyed the laughter as well.

Starchild111 thanks for spotting that, and good morning to you .Hugs for strength, and peace to us all.

irmensul13

15th September 2013, 09:10

I have not read the entire thread yet,but reading the first page,felt moved to bump this..
I'll return later & read the entire thread..
I think that the OP is espousing new age nonsense,there is no evidence for anything supernatural or extra dimensional,there is,however,plenty of good evidence (despite the current trend to debunk ancient astronaut theory amongst those who haven't even researched it) of intervention & for the creation of homo sapiens by people from elsewhere..
Its true Sitchin was a low level freemason & that he was funded by the Rockefeller institute,who might of wanted to use his research to teach a new history as a means of "benign" control..
But if you actually take the time to look at what all the old civilizations said,they spoke of flesh & blood teachers who had actual aircraft.This much is clear..
I'm not saying all the stuff about shamans & toroids & magnetism isn't interesting..
Wasn't the earthly city called Nibru,not Nibiru?
Clark says the following in his new book about the Anunnaki (p.22):-
"From the digitized cuneiform script,one can compose the word NI.BI.RU from three syllables which are listed in the Unicode as 1224C,12249,& 12292" (with accompanying pictographs)
Sitchin had claimed Ni.Bi.RU was mentioned in the older version of the Enuma Elish,not the Old Babylonian Version..whether it is or not does not affect the truth of whether we have been visited.
That we have is supported by the documented evidence that earth is being monitored..

DNA

15th September 2013, 15:29

Another great great thread shot down because questioning the new age mythology is a big no no. Shame really, just the other day i found an interesting video on youtube that talked about the gods are not aliens and the aliens are not gods, and by chance i log into avalon and found this thread.
V2uOcyWmBn8

the video really got me thinking, and ishtar's posts really expanded my thinking on the subject. I used to believe the gods were aliens, but no longer. The gods are returning, but it wont be on rockets.

I just want to be clear here.
What you are stating is that believing that ancient aliens landed on the planet and had something to do with genetic tinkering is a new age concept?
I do not think so.

But more importantly, I would like to comment on how the confusion over ancient gods and ancient aliens can actually have common ground.
It is not really a case of one or the other.

I will state I think ALL religion is parasitic in nature.
I expand on this in a thread here. Parasitic gods (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?31760-Parasitic-gods)
I think it quite possible that mankind was in fact encouraged to worship these ancient aliens as gods.
But when the ancient aliens left, all of the worshipfull energy smelled like grandmas homebaked chocalote chip cookies to fourth dimensional entities living in the space between our world and the after life.

I think in many cases entities began absorbing this energy and making psychic connections to those continuing in this worship.
So I do not think it a good idea to engage in worshiping the gods of old any more than the gods of new.

Just my take

OnyxKnight

19th September 2013, 15:00

...
BTW, onyx nails some things...

Hi Sirius White

I appreciate you pointing on my input here, but I'm afraid you may have misinterpreted some of it?

When I was talking about Nibiru I said that it was a planet that was capable through advanced technology to travel in space, independent of a stellar parent's gravity. The "Nibiruans", constructed gateways/stargates (whatever you feel comfortable calling them) on several planets, the most recent one being on Earth. Earth didn't have enough gold deposits (even though compared to many planets out there, significantly rich in it), so its logical they would annex other planets they deem gold-rich and create or enslave local labor force that would view them as "gods". There are several besides our own, I know one is a planet that today is situated in the direction of the Centaurus constellation, and one may well be in the Virgo constellation (I remember taking notes on a contact session that after they left the Solar system some millions of years ago for the first time since their arrival, they went in the direction of space we associate with the constellation Virgo today, they remained there a long time until the events that lead to the colony wars that happened here in our planetary system, pointing to the fact that it was a star system that wasn't too far away, otherwise it would have gone to a different constellation by that time, since stars move in space, some more faster, some slower etc., those nearer for the most part move more slowly - just an optical effect)

These "stargates" should be situated in cities, or whatever dwelling places the local enslaved beings would inhabit. With us, it happened to be a city in the Middle-East, that some say bore the name Nibiru /Nibru. The gate is said to be connected to the "underworld" - true - but this was not some paranormal / astral plane / other dimension etc. Its the underground of the planet in question, which at the same time is the actual dwelling place of the "gods". So at the same time, its the "underworld" and the "heaven". The "Nibiruans" among many other physical characteristics, have a very, very chalk-white skin. This is consistent with scientific reasoning that things like this could result from prolonged habitation without any sunlight. Their world is not bound by a star, and they also live in the underground, so that's what results. I'm not dissecting your theory on oscillating, pulsating, vibrating, "inner" and "outer" spaces. That may very well be, and its possible we hold similar view on that, just that I would explain it in different manner. But I guess its the same thing. Just that, this in my opinion, has nothing to do with Nibiru or the ETs living there.

Eric J (Viking)

17th November 2014, 21:59

This seems to be doing the rounds...I recently picked up a book titled Hercolobus.! I often wondered about this..?!

Nibiru is now Perihelion to our Sun The Trumpet…: http://youtu.be/aEPJQcMaYjM

Viking

Redstar Kachina

17th November 2014, 23:11

..........

Snowflower

18th November 2014, 00:05

Whenever someone gives a date, especially many months or years ahead, for a massive calamity, I discount it completely. It's coming, there is no doubt. But no one knows, or will know, the hour, day, month, or year. Nor do they know the exact cause: Economy, food, grid, rare metals, water, or phosphorus collapse;war, pandemic, earth changes, Nibiru, ice age - any or all. My personal definition of SHTF time for me and mine is that day when we can no longer go to the grocery store to buy food, either from inflation to the point of no money for food, or any cause that prevents us from driving to the store and shopping. But the date? No one will know until it happens.

Operator

18th November 2014, 14:17

This seems to be doing the rounds...I recently picked up a book titled Hercolobus.! I often wondered about this..?!

Yes, interesting subject. There is a lot of different material/sources pointing to more or less the same direction ...
And as they say ... where there's smoke there usually is a fire. So reason to investigate.

But on the other hand if you know that people are aware of that you can use it to trick them into your agenda.

Nibiru is now Perihelion to our Sun The Trumpet…: http://youtu.be/aEPJQcMaYjM

As I said interesting subject, because if true it's going to ruin our day ... :eek:

But I'm very skeptical about this. I have always wondered why there would be an
object close to our sun all the time. If we (earth) rotate around our sun the
position should change like it does for all other planets in our solar system.
The following video mentions this problem and attempts to explain it:

64Abxjn1FiM

I must say that Marshall Masters' material had the least alarmist material thus far.
Not trying to sell survival stuff etc. His material looks convincing but also a bit
too sophisticated for a private/civilian undertaking perhaps. And like the book of
Hercolubus, which is free and even shipped free (!), maybe delivered to your doorstep
a bit too easy.

I was wondering what other critical members here think about the explanation he gives
for the planet X system to be seen close to the sun all the time.

Besides I am trying to reproduce images like they often show with a 2nd planetary body
next to the sun. The presented ones seem authentic (no lens flares, or sun dogs) but
although I have clear skies and unblocked view of the setting sun almost each night
I am not able to reproduce it thus far.

So, what part of this is real and what is whipped up fear porn? In any case I don't
think that if it is real the planet X system would be at Perihelion (yet).

Nick Matkin

18th November 2014, 17:23

Operator

18th November 2014, 18:32

I'm not worrying about it. I've got a few friends with very good astronomy set-ups. They know what they're doing and run forums.

They say there may be 'something' way, way out there that just might be a brown dwarf orbiting the sun, but if so:

1) It's not even within a few light years otherwise its radiation would be detectable.

2) If it's a planet entering the solar system, it must be invisible as no one has detected it either by its reflected light or its gravitational pull on other planets.

What all these graphics do that 'demonstrate' this stuff is greatly exaggerate the relative sizes of the planets. In reality the solar system is like a dozen or so items rotating inside a football stadium, only they are the size of grains of sand, or the biggest may be a pea! Even something the size of a water melon is unlikely to bump into anything.

And why do people think these objects can be real just because someone, somewhere videos it on a cheap camera? A celestial object is not going to be visible from just one location now is it? An entire hemisphere would see it!

Come on folks, this stuff can't be covered up for ever by NASA. There are independent, non-aligned, amateurs looking for this stuff. They'd all love to be the first to confirm anything if it were there!

Nick

Yep, I totally agree that being very skeptical in this case is a healthy approach ...

And normally when you see people selling survival stuff you know what their agenda most likely is. However in this case
I don't think Marshall Masters is in that game. So, if that isn't it then what else could there be why there is such a
concerted effort to make people believe this will be going soon?

Besides the astronomical elements I also have my doubts on other stories like the Annunaki needing gold to restore their
atmosphere ... Why would they stay on a dying planet while they have the technology to leave it and apparently they
are able to live here on earth as well?

However there are other elements that make you go hmmm ... Like Robert Harrington's story, meeting Zecharia Sitchin
and e.g. the IRAS history etc. etc. It's probably not all totally BS, something is smoldering ... what are they up to?

Deega

20th November 2014, 00:42

citsym

20th November 2014, 03:11

Here is a YouTube video of a anonymous (use Ken name) Astronomer from a Government Agency (didn't name) from SecureTeam, to the effect that he was able to decipher anomalies around Uranus and Saturn Planets, interesting!, I wonder if this is legitimate...?

I find hard to believe in the size of the thing and why is the video still on YouTube if this is so secure. It also has 21,979 hits in one and a half days??? I doubt the truth of this video.

Operator

20th November 2014, 03:37

Well, checked the sun today (looking through a CD) while it was 15min. - 30 min. before setting. Clear skies, nothing
around it (like clouds) to block my view. There are NO extra objects ...

I've done this from time to time. I think it is theoretically impossible to see objects near the sun throughout the year
(or any substantial sustained period) and my observations (personal experience) confirm it.

I have to admit that I see anomalies in governments behavior worldwide that seems to point at a cosmological event
but I can't find theoretical or physical evidence to support it. I am open to the possibility that they only steer to a
make believe scenario which they will abuse to create havoc and then blame nature for it.

Atlas

22nd November 2014, 15:01

Here is a YouTube video of a anonymous (use Ken name) Astronomer from a Government Agency (didn't name) from SecureTeam, to the effect that he was able to decipher anomalies around Uranus and Saturn Planets, interesting!, I wonder if this is legitimate...?

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Debunked:

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najara12000

22nd November 2014, 15:34

This person has a different take on it and he's a Christian (maybe this was posted on PA somewhere?). You have to watch where he outlines what he is describing on the screen. Go through some of his earlier videos and he outlines the system on the screen for you to see it. I don't know but if anyone has any knowledge about this---would love to hear your responses regarding this YouTube User's analysis.

https://www.youtube.com/user/musicplyr1979

Planet X * Nibiru System (2014)

Eric J (Viking)

13th March 2015, 07:09

Anyone?? http://www.allnewspipeline.com/Mind_Blowing_Images_Of_Something_Strange.php

Viking

Nick Matkin

13th March 2015, 12:03

Looks like some sort of complex internal lens flare.

Even if it isn't a camera artefact, an astronomical body will be visible from more than just one location. The moon is very close astronomically speaking and everyone on earth can see that during a 24-hour period.

I don't think Nibiru is going to creep up on South Carolina, or anywhere else for that matter, without thousands of amateur astronomers the world over reporting it first.

Nick

StandingWave

13th March 2015, 13:28

Anyone?? http://www.allnewspipeline.com/Mind_Blowing_Images_Of_Something_Strange.php

Viking

Comment deleted as it was in reference to another thread! Apologies. :nono:

BF88

23rd June 2015, 14:42

✦ Machine Head - Locust "Music Video" (Illuminati Agenda & Bible End Days)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bU7qme80jj0

I'm a machine head fan, I couldn't believe it when I heard the lyrics to this. " Behind an angels disguise an insect preys " As in insect beings pretending to be angels or beings of light, something I have personally experienced although I never saw the "insect" they said they wouldn't show me their true form because I would be terrified by it. This being had me believe it was my mother so it kind of goes with what Simon Parkes speaks about.
When listening to the song for the first time my heart nearly stopped!

Eric J (Viking)

20th January 2016, 17:52

Who knows?

Noticed it was in the New York Times as well...

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2074106-hints-that-planet-nine-may-exist-on-edge-of-our-solar-system/?utm_source=NSNS&utm_medium=SOC&utm_campaign=hoot&cmpid=SOC%5BNSNS%5D2015-GLOBAL-hoot

Viking

Darla Ken Pearce

20th January 2016, 20:16

I have heard but cannot verify more gloom and doom about Planet X/Nibiru is coming from Alex Collier.

Anyone listening to his radio interviews these days?

At present we are snowbound and having bandwidth problems, so unable to watch videos or follow many of the links. A hazard of living in a forest.

TargeT

20th January 2016, 21:50

At present we are snowbound and having bandwidth problems, so unable to watch videos or follow many of the links. A hazard of living in a forest.

Sounds like you need a new forest!

Mine does have ticks and mosquitoes though...

Not sure how much doom and gloom you can squeeze out of a predicted orbit that looks like this:
https://d1o50x50snmhul.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2nd_p9_kbo_orbits_labeled_1_-1200x675.jpg

it won't come very close...

And remember, this ALL stems from this one sentence:

Mike Brown and Konstantin Batygin say that they have found evidence of “Planet Nine” from its effect on other bodies orbiting far from the sun

So really.... it's just a guess

The electric universe (https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/) says there is no such thing as gravity, only electricity... (to me this is the most plausible model) this "observational guess" is based on "gravity"maths & could be totally flawed.

Soooo... not much here really other than a sensational title.

Cidersomerset

20th January 2016, 22:17

http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.7.3/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png

Case made for 'ninth planet'

By Jonathan Amos
BBC Science Correspondent

3 hours ago

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/0B37/production/_87817820_planet_9_art_1_.jpg
Artist's impression of a ninth planet: Telescopes are sure to try to track down the object... if it really exists

American astronomers say they have strong evidence that there is a ninth planet in our Solar System orbiting
far beyond even the dwarf world Pluto.The team, from the California Institute of Technology (Caltech), has no
direct observations to confirm its presence just yet.Rather, the scientists make the claim based on the way
other far-flung objects are seen to move.

But if proven, the putative planet would have 10 times the mass of Earth.

The Caltech astronomers have a vague idea where it ought to be on the sky, and their work is sure to fire a
campaign to try to track it down.

"There are many telescopes on the Earth that actually have a chance of being able to find it," said Dr Mike Brown.

"And I'm really hoping that as we announce this, people start a worldwide search to go find this ninth planet."

Read More....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35365323

Napping

21st January 2016, 10:22

This might be what you've heard re Alex Collier Darla. Can't say I've ever really bought the hype over the years....but certainly an increase in mainstream coverage and "discoveries" of late. Silly to completely rule it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLC5U_IM-XQ

I have heard but cannot verify more gloom and doom about Planet X/Nibiru is coming from Alex Collier.

Anyone listening to his radio interviews these days?

At present we are snowbound and having bandwidth problems, so unable to watch videos or follow many of the links. A hazard of living in a forest.

aoibhghaire

21st January 2016, 16:07

It looks like there could be two planets Xs. This recent model (Feb 2016) indicating a close body in the inner Oort cloud and the other in the outer Oort Cloud. See Nibiru Again? post #87 for the Brown dwarf body in the outer Oort Cloud.

Assuming the planet is mainly emitting in the infrared, their have been infrared searches using the WISE telescope (Wide Field Infrared Survey Explorer).
Searches were conducted using WISE, but nothing found based at those distances on the criteria in this recent paper. The February paper proposes a gaseous planet. This should have showed up in the recent WISE survey. May be its rocky body with dim albedo. This would require a large optical to telescope get down to 28+ magnitude

Among the WISE bands, W2 provides the best constraints on the presence of a companion to the Sun. Given the typical sensitivities achieved by WISE. W2 is capable of detecting objects at larger distances than W1, W3, and W4 for W1 − W2 > 1.2, W2 − W3 < 4.3, and W2 − W4 < 7.6, respectively. Although W1 offers higher S/N at W1 − W2 < 1.2, Any brown dwarf with that colour (T2) would be easily detected at W2 if it is within the range of plausible distances for a solar companion (<1 pc) based on the absolute magnitudes of L and T dwarfs (Dupuy & Liu 2012).

This is a huge survey to analyse based on the above parameters. However, it could be filtered down to specific type Brown Dwarf (BD) that may have its own planets. (Plajeren contact notes)

(I carried out recent data from W2 had 0.5 bn flux points with a FOV of 5 x 5 degrees resulted in 700 potential BDs). Applying WISE + ALLWISE + NEOWISE provides multiple epochs to potentially detect a shift

If a bound object is discovered by WISE, then it likely will explain the perceived Oort cloud comet anomaly and it will be a “Goldilocks” companion.
(Nibiru Again? post #87

Any promising observation that is recorded in the WISE database would be sent to narrow-field IR telescopes for detailed follow up observations to falsify or verify the Goldilocks criteria. Time frame ~ 1 year.

Using the WISE telescope (Wide Field Infrared Survey Explorer), I have been using T7 BD type body as Planet X within the outer Solar System. I have been using WISE W2 band which should enhance candidates in that region. I have analysed 25 sq. degs.up to August 2015 and about to search 75 sq. degs. in Delphinus to the end of 2016 Using both WISE + ALLWISE + NEOWISE and comparison past catalogues 2MASS, SDSS and Spitzer. These will provide many epochs to see a reasonable shift of the proposed planet.

Besides using the conventional mechanistic information in science, I am using my own abilities consciously (Partnership with Nature Intelligence within a Co Creative Science method) to derive a location. I have also taken into consideration Billy Meier's Plajeren ET contact notes that have provided invaluable data.

greybeard

21st January 2016, 16:24

What pulled me into the possibility of there being a planet X Nibiru was myth/historic recount, also something seems to be influencing/affecting planets in the solar system.
In my head it is now just "May be so"

Chris

Mark (Star Mariner)

21st January 2016, 16:47

I right be wrong with this interpretation, but I think we're talking about 'two' Planet X's.

The newly discovered, and long mooted, Planet X on the edge of the solar system, is the Roman numeral Planet 10 - leftover from the days when Pluto was considered a planet, when scientists and astonomers thought there might be another, undiscovered tenth planet beyond it. This planet should really now (after Pluto's relegation) be referred to as Planet IX (Planet 9).

I'm thinking the Planet X which is 'Niburu', is not an 'X' from the Roman numeral 10, but might be better thought of as Planet 'EX', the letter X, having the X-factor etc, because it's suppesedly a wandering planet anyway and not strictly the historically perceived 10th planet from the sun. I'd have to cross-reference Sumerian mythology to be certain - I might be wrong, but that's what I'm thinking, and it's how I look at it anyway.

I have heard but cannot verify more gloom and doom about Planet X/Nibiru is coming from Alex Collier.

Hi Darla.. I listened to the same Alex Collier interview, and I was a bit disappointed to hear Alex talking about Nibiru. I greatly admire Alex, and have enjoyed a lot of his information over the years, but was less enthused with his recent offering. Apparently by mid-March, according to him, the darkstar is coming, and we're all doomed. It was a very precise prediction, but I guess we don't have very long to wait (until we see how wrong he is - again).

Nick Matkin

21st January 2016, 17:14

It has not been discovered! That's just media hype - the same media that we are all supposed to be so sceptical of.

It's a mathematical possibility, nothing more just yet and could be 800 AU out there, and not come closer to the sun than 200 AU. So all those thinking it may be the Sumerian object, might have to think again.

Eric J (Viking)

21st January 2016, 19:11

Further info here...

It has been announced that there is at least one more planet in our solar system, possibly two.

I first heard about this (as an official announcement, not as a suggestion from alternative news sites) on Wednesday evening whilst watching the last few minutes of the News. It was announced as a 'just released / late news' newsflash.

At the time I was stunned. It HAS to mean something although exactly what remains to be seen.

My first thought was along the lines of other new planets being discovered at times important in human evolution.

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Scientists may have found Planet X -- the long-rumored object believed to be larger than Earth and further from the sun than Pluto.

Planet X and another object dubbed "Planet Y," are among 13 "extreme trans-Neptunian objects" (ETNOs) orbiting the sun at great distances, according to a report in Space, which quoted a new research paper.

They are believed to follow elliptical paths averaging about 200 astronomical units (AU) from the sun. Earth is 1 AU, or 93 million miles, from the sun.

"This excess of objects with unexpected orbital parameters makes us believe that some invisible forces are altering the distribution of the orbital elements of the ETNOs, and we consider that the most probable explanation is that other unknown planets exist beyond Neptune and Pluto," lead author Carlos de la Fuente Marcos, of the Complutense University of Madrid, said in a statement.

"The exact number is uncertain, given that the data that we have is limited, but our calculations suggest that there are at least two planets, and probably more, within the confines of our solar system," he added.

They are far enough away to be nearly impossible to spot with current instruments, according to Space.

Planet X was previously hypothesized in a 2014 research paper.

Called 2012 VP113, researchers Chadwick Trujillo and Scott Sheppard claimed that the object never came closer to the sun than 80 AU, according to Space.

The newly-found ETNO joins Sedna, a dwarf planet believed to be about 250 AU from the sun, as objects residing outside the Kuiper Belt, where Pluto resides, according to Space.

Pluto was only recently reclassified as a planet, albeit a Dwarf planet, after losing the distinction in 2006.

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/01/21/two-new-planets-bigger-than-earth-possibly-found-in-our-solar-system/21133080

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Eric J (Viking)

11th February 2016, 20:24

Another snippet here. ..quite a few sources are saying we should see it March onwards. ..anyone?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tDz4V6lNu0o

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Nick Matkin

12th February 2016, 20:48

Yay! More fear porn from those who don't know the difference between comets, meteors, asteroids or haemorrhoids!

Oh yes. You'll see it in March, just like it was going to be visible in September/October 2015, or May 2015, Or January 2015, or October 2014 or...

(Surely no one has forgotten all those false warnings already?)

Eric J (Viking)

11th June 2017, 18:01

Looks like the Brazilian Senator Discloses PLANET X Nibiru on May 25th 2017..!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KE9b90TNWTA

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Nick Matkin

11th June 2017, 20:24

Looks like the Brazilian Senator Discloses PLANET X Nibiru on May 25th 2017..!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KE9b90TNWTA

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Except Angelica Santos who translated his talk says he's just reading a letter sent to him by a member of the public, and that he's being widely mocked in Brazil.

I don't speak Portuguese, but maybe someone who does could have another look and set it in context.

najara12000

2nd July 2017, 01:32

Would anyone care to comment on this video from WSO dated June 27, 2017.

It begins with two objects in the sky not even close at sunset it is also referenced after the woman claiming Nibiru in the sky at 1:40 in by Steve. Next is woman around 1:40 claiming Nibiru in the sky. At 4:22-5:09 Steve describes as a distortion line.

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Bill Ryan

2nd July 2017, 03:50

najara12000

2nd July 2017, 20:14

Also this post from Jordan Maxwell June 27, 2017
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That's not from Jordan Maxwell.. it's another fake YouTube channel, pretending to be him.

And taking about fakery, why has the person who made that video used an image of Alex Jones to promote it?

I'm sorry, I should have come back but last night every time I went to FB to look at the URL it had Alex Jones and was in fact playing Jordan Maxwell. I looked over to the right for all other choices and they, too, had Alex Jones face on them but when I went to look through the slides for the videos no Alex Jones. I haven't even been following any of this for six months but BP Earthwatch (i think that was the name) had something on my You Tube page and I started looking around. Anyway if someone could comment on the first video where I have the times marked as to what is going in in the skies, I was just curious. I'll remove the second video.

Eric J (Viking)

8th June 2025, 18:02

This seems to be surfacing at the moment… 🤷‍♂️

Mysterious Red Celestial Object Appears Over Toronto Sky — Scientists Baffled

Toronto, Canada 🇨🇦 June 3, 2025

Residents of Toronto were left stunned this morning when a massive red celestial object appeared in the sky, partially obscured by dense clouds. The glowing sphere, described by witnesses as “otherworldly” and “apocalyptic,” was seen hovering low on the horizon, just above the skyline near downtown.

The object, which resembled a crimson planet or moon, was visible for approximately 45 minutes between 5:20 AM and 6:05 AM local time. Dozens of photos and videos have since flooded social media, showing the fiery orb partially shrouded in storm clouds, with some captures juxtaposing it against street lights and buildings, creating an eerie juxtaposition of the ordinary and the extraordinary.

Public Reaction:

“It was like something out of a sci-fi movie,” said Alyssa Cannavero, a local jogger who spotted the object while running near High Park

“At first, I thought it was the sun rising, but it was too large, too red, and completely still.”

City authorities have confirmed that radar and satellite data showed no known celestial bodies or atmospheric anomalies that could explain the phenomenon.

“We are investigating the event in coordination with Environment Canada and several astronomical agencies,” said Chief Meteorologist James Stuart. “At this time, we cannot conclusively identify the object.”

What Could It Be?

“From a scientific perspective, this is unprecedented,” said Dr. Thomas Jefferson of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada. “We have no record of an object of this appearance or scale manifesting so close to the Earth’s surface without prior detection.”

🛑 No Threat Reported

Despite the surreal appearance of the object, officials have reported no threats to public safety or disruptions to aviation. The object disappeared as mysteriously as it arrived, fading into the morning clouds as sunlight began to pierce through the overcast sky.
The phenomenon is now being referred to as the "Scarlet Dome" by online communities and observers. Both NASA and the
Canadian Space Agency have issued statements acknowledging the occurrence and are reviewing all available data.
My friends , the truth is that Nibiru is back.

https://x.com/KenobiMarlene/status/1931076804842053769

https://stargatenewsletter.blogspot.com/2025/06/huge-red-orb-above-toronto-sky-event.html