Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[truthseekerdan]

Caller is apparently unaware to what's going on with the world, and the events that will take place in the upcoming months, he asks George his opinion, and its brushed off as nothing...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbDF5cz9064
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbDF5cz9064

[nearing]

Caller is apparently unaware to what's going on with the world, and the events that will take place in the upcoming months, he asks George his opinion, and its brushed off as nothing...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbDF5cz9064
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbDF5cz9064

That's very disappointing since George Noory has had guests on who have talked about the flooding of the East coast in the Fall.

But he (GN) thinks Richard Hoagland's stuff doesnt stink and RH has blown off the Dwarf Star.

Go figure.

[Operator]

But he (GN) thinks Richard Hoagland's stuff doesnt stink and RH has blown off the Dwarf Star.

Go figure.

There is too much stardom going on in whistle blower country ... They may start off very good but lots of them
try to meet the increasing pressure to stay in the spotlights ... to end up going off at the deep end.

I am not sure about Elenin ... but I won't take any expert's word on it blindly nowadays.

[Calz]

Little "teaser" from Kerry's blog regarding the upcoming elenin conf ... who knows???

June 17, 2011

China : Info surfacing re Elenin

I have had a communique from an unknown source indicating that Elenin has a group of craft acompanying it. This correlates with previous info received from a completely different source. Story developing. Tune in to our Elenin conference next week to learn more.

[Operator]

Little "teaser" from Kerry's blog regarding the upcoming elenin conf ... who knows???
....
from an unknown source indicating
....


Teaser indeed ... a 'source' is already pretty vague but nowadays we seem to follow 'unknown sources' too.
Oh well, as long as people pay for the conference it's ok I guess :rolleyes:

[The Truth Is In There]

I have had a communique from an unknown source indicating that Elenin has a group of craft acompanying it. This correlates with previous info received from a completely different source. Story developing. Tune in to our Elenin conference next week to learn more.

if i were an ET i'd be sure to accompany "elenin" as well. it's going to be the show of a lifetime, especially if you're in a spaceship at a safe distance.

[blufire]

Please Everyone at least watch yiolas first video in post #461. Tears came to my eyes when I saw she has moved to the Appalachians.

I too am moving back to western Appalachian Mountains. . . . I will be there the end of this week.

For years now I have had an immense calling to go back home to the mountains and prepare , , , ,not only PHYSICALLY but SPIRITUALLY. My guides, angels, soul have not let me rest. Only until I made up my mind to move back home have I felt more at peace but still a constant urging to “get it done”. I am not afraid or fearful. This is what I am supposed to do.

I have made this offer on other threads and I’m making again on this one. Please pm me if you are remotely interested in gathering in the area I am moving. I will not disclose exactly where I am moving until I know you are serious and that our families or individuals can work together.

I am in no way saying you need to move now and uproot your families. I am offering a safe place to come to either after “something” happens or if you wish or feel the calling now. But you need to know of a place to come to.

If those of us don’t gather together or at least know where groups are how can we unite and grow together. If there are not strong communities that are together we will not be able to usher in a “new world” or dimension.

“They” want us to stay divided and separate and manipulated.

I am not selling anything. I am not saying you can’t come unless you have thousands of dollars. I am truly offering what I think is one of the safest places in the US. Even if “nothing” happens this is where I want to be. A meaningful life out of the rat race and insanity. A place to be self reliant and sustainable. A place to mix old ways with new technology.

Just pm me. I will try to communicate as much as I can, but obviously I will be incredibly busy and internet is more than a bit spotty where I am moving.

[nearing]

Please Everyone at least watch yiolas first video in post #461. Tears came to my eyes when I saw she has moved to the Appalachians.

I too am moving back to western Appalachian Mountains. . . . I will be there the end of this week.

For years now I have had an immense calling to go back home to the mountains and prepare , , , ,not only PHYSICALLY but SPIRITUALLY. My guides, angels, soul have not let me rest. Only until I made up my mind to move back home have I felt more at peace but still a constant urging to “get it done”. I am not afraid or fearful. This is what I am supposed to do.

I have made this offer on other threads and I’m making again on this one. Please pm me if you are remotely interested in gathering in the area I am moving. I will not disclose exactly where I am moving until I know you are serious and that our families or individuals can work together.

I am in no way saying you need to move now and uproot your families. I am offering a safe place to come to either after “something” happens or if you wish or feel the calling now. But you need to know of a place to come to.

If those of us don’t gather together or at least know where groups are how can we unite and grow together. If there are not strong communities that are together we will not be able to usher in a “new world” or dimension.

“They” want us to stay divided and separate and manipulated.

I am not selling anything. I am not saying you can’t come unless you have thousands of dollars. I am truly offering what I think is one of the safest places in the US. Even if “nothing” happens this is where I want to be. A meaningful life out of the rat race and insanity. A place to be self reliant and sustainable. A place to mix old ways with new technology.

Just pm me. I will try to communicate as much as I can, but obviously I will be incredibly busy and internet is more than a bit spotty where I am moving.

That is VERY kind and compassionate of you, blufire. :hug:

[truthseekerdan]

Elite are prepared, but they play the 'conditioning tune' of 2012 scenario. Like Nearing says, 'go figure'... ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfpnC-jA7H8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfpnC-jA7H8

[blufire]

Hi Guys, this just in from the lady who first predicted a major earth event on earth due to the alignment with Elenin. I have also included her first video on Elenin, posted on March 8, only three days before the March 11 Great earth quake.

I think that 'Nania' is really tapping into something and it wouldn't hurt listening to what she has to say.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8K9-jpEKLI&feature=feedu

This is her Pre- March 11 video. I very clearly recall her telling everyone to take a vacation for the period around March 11, 2011


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95zMdTvoqcQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL


Bumping because I feel this is very important. Stay informed and alert. watch the weather globally.

[truthseekerdan]

Looks like TerralO3 is starting to escalate the ELE threat... :confused:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9qRdT1rFi0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9qRdT1rFi0

[Carolin]

Also, watch for fish kills. Whales running aground. Other animals dying. Mainstream news doesn't report it as much as they should but this blog has it covered. http://thecomingcrisis.blogspot.com/

This is an interesting interview with geologist Jim Berkland who used to work for USGS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Hxjy2ARHM

[yiolas]

Pretty dire warnings here. I'm just wondering how many of these will it take each of us to listen to in order to get off our butts and prepare .

[Lettherebelight]

Hi guys, thanks Yiolas for the vid...I agree on it's importance....can anyone post a link that can be viewed on an IPad?

edit: saw it on youtube...thanks, Yiolas.

[greybeard]

Pretty dire warnings here. I'm just wondering how many of these will it take each of us to listen to in order to get off our butts and prepare .

Apart from getting in extra food and water there is little I can do.
We dont even have a car so its not as though we can head for the hills at a moments notice.

Spiritual teachers say that at the moment of our birth, the date and time of death is set ,so if I am meant to go then It will happen, if its not meant to happen then I will survive.
Im too old to spend the next so many years living in a camping situation.
My hope is that there will be a New Heaven and a New Earth in the twinkling of an eye.
It will be as it is.
Love to all fellow travelers
Chris

[Dick]

Spiritual teachers say that at the moment of our birth, the date and time of death is set ,so if I am meant to go then It will happen, if its not meant to happen then I will survive.
Im too old to spend the next so many years living in a camping situation.

Thats what i'm thinking also chris ;)
( and i don't know where to go either:ohwell:)
Dick.

[Operator]

Pretty dire warnings here. I'm just wondering how many of these will it take each of us to listen to in order to get off our butts and prepare .

Well normally my family goes on vacation to the Netherlands during summer. I somehow convinced them that this year may not be the most convenient period to be traveling.
We will stay in the Caribbean, thus giving us more time to finalize preparations. We have seeds planted, some food and other items stored.
But I can use the extra time to finalize my windmill and rainwater storage. Need to clean out the 20 foot container too. It can nicely serve as shelter as well as Faraday cage.
(Although not perfect it will probably protect somewhat against direct radiation too)

I am not at all that certain that it is Elenin that is going to create mayhem on this planet ... but there will be almost certain rough times ahead and we need to prepare anyway.
So yeah, Yiolas I know what you mean ... we have to do less talking and more doing ...

When TSHTF there will be not much time left ... to do personal preparation. That time will be consumed by 'others'. Either get them up to speed to or 'deal' with them
otherwise (hope that's not case of course). But by preparing now you already show them a good example to follow.
My former neighbor installed a rainwater storage capacity of 1000 gallons ! So trying to be an example already works ... :peace:

[truthseekerdan]

Well, one old advice I can give everyone is: "Whoever seeks to save his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it." (Luke 17:33) (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2017:33&version=NKJV)

[nearing]

Elite are prepared, but they play the 'conditioning tune' of 2012 scenario. Like Nearing says, 'go figure'... ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfpnC-jA7H8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfpnC-jA7H8

Geez! Talk about fear-mongering!

[alxz]

I love you Bluefire :) I have the possibility to move now, but I feel I got to stay with my family(who think Im crazy). If my end on earth is coming, i will meet it with a smile;) No fear!

Bless you and yours.

[AlexanderLight]

My newest find.

Scientists are trying to discover why mass extinctions occur periodically. Their main hypothesis involves Nemesis (Nibiru), a red or brown dwarf, which is the dark companion of our Sun.

From "The Universe - Unexplained Mysteries", Ep. 25

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29B7NCwqz0M
From 3:00 to 9:20 minutes.

[Eyes2theSkies]

Really interesting photos! I've heard through many sources that Nibiru was getting close enough that we should be able to see it but, this is the first I've seen of it! One can never completely accept this kind of evidence without more informaiton but, it makes me curious enough to look for more photos or video from the southern hemisphere. From what I understand we won't be able to see Nibiru from the Northern hemisphere. Does anyone else have information about this? When it gets closer to December 2012, will we be able to see it from "up here"? Thanks for the video!

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello,

What exactly are we supposed to see here because I don't get it...

I could take my camera and with my eyes closed take a picture of the sky and then applying same Photoshop filters, and show you Nibiru and its satellites. I am pretty sure in the amount of noise that I get I can find some cool "planets".

As you probably can tell I am very frustrated with this kind of videos... if that "object" is a planet, this means that to the photographer appears to be still. So you can take your time, get or improvise a tripod, borrow some bright and big zoom lenses and take some decent sharp photos. Experiment until you get a photo as good as possible. Oh... and while you're at it, write down your location, time, timezone and at least the approximate direction you are pointing your camera at.

I am so tired of pictures of noise, pixels, software generated artifacts that are presented as proof of Nibiru, alien Mother Ship, or UFO fleet.

OK, I got this off my chest! (for a while at least! :P)

:bored: :bathbaby:

[kersley]

Hello,

What exactly are we supposed to see here because I don't get it...

I could take my camera and with my eyes closed take a picture of the sky and then applying same Photoshop filters, and show you Nibiru and its satellites. I am pretty sure in the amount of noise that I get I can find some cool "planets".

As you probably can tell I am very frustrated with this kind of videos... if that "object" is a planet, this means that to the photographer appears to be still. So you can take your time, get or improvise a tripod, borrow some bright and big zoom lenses and take some decent sharp photos. Experiment until you get a photo as good as possible. Oh... and while you're at it, write down your location, time, timezone and at least the approximate direction you are pointing your camera at.

I am so tired of pictures of noise, pixels, software generated artifacts that are presented as proof of Nibiru, alien Mother Ship, or UFO fleet.

OK, I got this off my chest! (for a while at least! :P)

:bored: :bathbaby:

Ilie is right of course. He make a very good point..

[loveandgratitude]

Does anyone know what this is? Taken by the South Pole Webcam at Polaoa, Atka Bay on the 11/6/11.


http://www.youtube.com/user/100sevgilim#p/a/u/0/VTM8b-fns-I

FULL VIDEO -


http://www.youtube.com/user/100sevgilim#p/a/u/1/sXwkvf1opJ4

NOW illumuinous1 downloaded this video ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDRxYa-dXg


SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE VIDEO -


I live in Australia and I've been noticing lately what appears to be a bright star to my WSW direction between 7pm-8:30pm AEST, it sits in between the phoenix and cetus constellations and I'd know if it was just a regular stellar object, it's practically come out of nowhere recently, let me know if you find anything?!


Yeah I checked one story of three asteroids barrelling towards earth. The one named Apophis was so coincidentally found by a man named Leonid Sokolov. Whats with the Leonid guys finding asteroids?> yeah the Leonid's quickly growing!



In the Spring time, Leo is in the Northern Hemisphere. In the Fall, Leo is located in the Southern Hemisphere . If this brown dwarf is in the northern hemisphere it should be pushing us away from the sun ? Being that it could be our sun's binary it should have that effect on our gravitational pull , But if it is coming from the southern hemisphere that'll cause us to be pushed closer to the sun.Comets don't cause gravitational perturbtions all over the solar system . but a planet or brown dwarf carrying 7 planets would.So then what is causing all these effects on our planet if this is just a comet ? A comet not only the local
astronomers still have trouble seeing being that it'll cross over mars orbit on june 27th 2011. What if it is what has been said from the begguning that it is coming up beneath the earth pushing us closer to the sun that is why it is way more brighter outside the moon has been tilting wrong phases.Could their be 2 brown dwarfs that we don't know about ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bMlOAcCg4M&feature=related

[loveandgratitude]

I HAVE FOUND IT

FROM PERFECTMINDS 20/6/2011

I have found it. It's in this morning's images I am here to tell you that my pictures have Elenin right in the center of the screen (for the large, wide field view). Thanks for commenting. I think we're facebook friends so you won't miss any of my early reports


http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePerfectMinds

This video he cannot find it, then he has added the top video, where he has found it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzHW85YsOBk

[loveandgratitude]

After these pictures taken at the South Pole, they were never released new pictures of Dwarf Star and infrared telescope WISE was deliberately turned off to the public.

The following diagrams show why it is impossible to photograph the Dwarf Star next to the sun in their current position.

As of today, June 17, the Dwarf Star is far from the sun, far in the southeast quadrant.

On August 30, the Dwarf Star will be in the same distance from the Sun, 1 AU from Earth. So yes, you can see a big star the left side and below the sun.

From there, it approximates very fast, on 26 September it will be aligned with the Earth and sun at 0.39 AU and it will be at the closest distance from Earth 0.23 AU on October 17.

From late August to late November, it will be seen from anywhere on Earth will be four months the presence of such small solar system in our sky with approximately 78000 km in diameter, included the orbits of its planetoids. Many photos will then be taken to be shown to future generations, recorded in pictures the first time since the human race occupies the planet Earth.Do not be fooled by misinformation, always be aware of the mistakes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsWPyv-C6qE

[Carolin]

So what do you think this is?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD8vdKRl6nk

[Carolin]

Still blows my mind when pieces of the puzzle fall into my lap. This quote is from www.zetatalk.com from the June 4th thread addressing the above video.

"This video was taken with an expensive camera, a point the poster touts with pride as he announces his discovery. He takes his audience through the steps by which he examines his video with color enhancements. The captures are genuine, despite the poster now claiming he thinks they are lens flares. Not all who capture evidence of Planet X and its Moon Swirls can withstand the heat they come under when they go public. The large orb at 4 o'clock, which the poster correctly identified as the prime suspect, is the Planet X corpus itself. There are Moon Swirl orbs likewise in view, at 9, 11 and 2 o'clock. These orbs are caused by Moon Swirls turned so their tubes are in a line from the Sun, thus funneling light down their tubes like a flashlight"

[Ilie Pandia]

@LoveAndGratitude: About the star(s) that appear to be rising before the Sun so you get morning light before the Sun is up. Can anybody from Australia confirm this, please?? Such an even I suspect would be all over the net and not in just two videos. So those clips are very interesting, but would be nice to actually have confirmation from different sources. Any Australian Avalonians :)?

@Carolin: My *personal* opinion is that it's a lens flare. Expensive camera or not photographing the Sun is not something reliable. Most photographers will tell you to stay away from direct Sun light into the lens. Why? Because the glass (or plastic) in the lens cannot handle that much light. Light gets scattered all over the place due to inner camera reflections and diffraction. Also the digital sensor has a lot of trouble reading the image. So what you get is a burnt image (details lost due to too much light), color distortions, details distortions and so on.

Another thing: before going ahead and applying color enhance and white balance to a photo, you should make sure that you know what the algorithm does, what the limitations of the software are, and what kind of artifacts you can expect. Without getting into the math of it, applying filters to a digital image always results in data loss.

So you have this:

Actual Real Light --> Travels through Sky (air+dust+water) --> Travels through the lens (glass or plastic with inner reflections and diffraction) --> Hits the digital sensor --> Camera software reads the sensor and most likely does software filtering --> Optional: image is saved as JPEG (with has data loss), unless RAW format is used --> Automatic white balance, contrast and sharpening are applied (unless RAW format is used) --> Image transferred to PC --> Filters are applied to image (color enhance + white balance) --> We finally get to see "something".

Each step introduces it's own errors. Normally the errors are acceptable, but in case of very low or very bright light the errors become massive and visible even with naked eye. This is why professional photographers always try to use the correct light that is best suited for their camera and photos.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Argh leave me alone Nibiru! I'm done with you!

I have a friend who is very interested in astrophysics, and when I post this kind of **** on my social networks he immediately gets back to me with research.

Safe to say I've looked like a fool many times.

With no coordinates, no reference, and no context, I have to toss this video straight in the trash.

Sorry, but I've been frustrated by this meme as well, and it has gotten the best of me, I gave it attention and now it won't back off....

[loveandgratitude]

"In our previous picture of comet Elenin, we explained and highlighted anomolies in the picture which were caused by the comet being less than 25 degrees above the horizon. Seeing conditions near the horizon are always poor.

With this telescope, we are overriding the warnings that the comet is too low to the horizon and may effect the picture (which it had ) just so we can show you the lastest pictures of the comet.

We did have to laugh when we saw someone comment elsewhere on the Internet asking if the anomalies in our prior picture might be cloaked UFO motherships.

Well we have taken another picture of comet Elenin and the anomalies are still there with added issues caused by moonlight. We like to say again that people should try not to see something that is not there and that the shapes you are seeing in the picture are caused by the comet being too low to the horizon..... nothing more than that.

In the picture below, we have the black and white image of the color on the left with our processed picture of the comet in the middle. In the middle image, we have used an arrow to point to Elenin. The image below right is the starfield as shown in wikisky.org . The wikisky image is not "live" so you will see that comet Elenin is missing in the right hand image but visible in the left and middle image.

The picture below of Elenin is at 10h 32m 45s +7° 44′ 33

We are attempting another picture of Elenin today with a different telescope..... however the weather is looking ominous so we may not be able to capture a second image today."

http://sydneystargazers.com/2011/06/17/comet-elenin-17th-june/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO5eMwtHngE

[loveandgratitude]

ABOUT SYDNEY STARGAZERS -

The Sydney Star Gazers blog introduces a feature that is sadly missing for amateur astromoners here in Sydney. The ability to tell at a quick glance what the observing conditions in Sydney will be like for that night. Will the skies be clear and will the view be reduced by a bright moon….or will the skies be overcast or even wet conditions set in which mean don’t even bother setting up the telescope tonight.

I will endeavour to keep the observing forecast as accurate as possible but as we know, Mother Nature can change the weather with very little notice.

I will also post in the Star Gazers blog information helpful to amateur astronomers new to the game and hopefully provide some tips and resources to make your star gazing experience that much easier to understand. As I have a camera mounted to my telescope I will also post pictures taken through my telescope in this blog and explain how I am trying to push my telescope to it’s limits.

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When Elenin Passes Earth

Comet Elenin will pass Earth on 16th October 2011 at it’s nearest distance of about 35 million km. This is based on the latest orbital data which was updated yesterday. So how far away is that?

Well if you were able to stand on comet Elenin on the 16th of October and turn around and look at the Earth, this is what you would see of Earth. And where is the Moon in the picture? Well we are so far away from the Earth and the Moon that they are shown as a single dot of light in the image which shows exactly how far away a 4km to 12km chunk of rock called elenin is .

When Elenin Passes Earth

Comet Elenin will pass Earth on 16th October 2011 at it’s nearest distance of about 35 million km. This is based on the latest orbital data which was updated yesterday. So how far away is that?

Well if you were able to stand on comet Elenin on the 16th of October and turn around and look at the Earth, this is what you would see of Earth. And where is the Moon in the picture? Well we are so far away from the Earth and the Moon that they are shown as a single dot of light in the image which shows exactly how far away a 4km to 12km chunk of rock called elenin is .



Comet Elenin – 18th June

We were fortunate to be able to take today’s picture of elenin a little earlier so there is less interference in the picture from the horizon.

Below is both a black and white as well as a color image of Elenin at position 10h 33m 20s +7° 41′ 17″

http://sydneystargazers.com/2011/06/17/comet-elenin-17th-june/

http://sydneystargazers.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/elenin-17th-june1.jpg

PS - ILIE PANDIA - maybe you can contact Sydney Stargazers about any questions you have about the Australia sky/sun/moon movements at the moment. They are tracking and keeping data.

[loveandgratitude]

argh leave me alone nibiru! I'm done with you!

I have a friend who is very interested in astrophysics, and when i post this kind of **** on my social networks he immediately gets back to me with research.

Safe to say i've looked like a fool many times.

With no coordinates, no reference, and no context, i have to toss this video straight in the trash.

Sorry, but i've been frustrated by this meme as well, and it has gotten the best of me, i gave it attention and now it won't back off....



if you watch some of the other video it does show co-ordinates and the last post about stargazers it shows co-ordinates.

[loveandgratitude]

Astronomers: Comet Elenin may produce greatest meteor showers in history

http://crisisboom.com/2011/04/04/astronomers-comet-elenin/

The unusual Comet Elenin is expected to pass within 21 million miles of Earth on October 16, 2011 and speeding by at more than 85,000 mph—so fast it could travel from Earth to the Moon in less than five hours.

Discovered by amateur Russian astronomer Leonid Elenin in Lyubertsy, Russia on December 10, 2010—who accessed the International Scientific Optical Network’s robotic observatory near Mayhill, New Mexico—the astronomical community has erupted with the excited possibility the celestial traveller could generate the most spectacular meteor showers ever recorded.

Although the comet’s path is expected to change as it draws closer to the sun, astronomical calculations appear to show Elenin’s perihelion occurring well inside Earth’s orbit by September 5th.

Astronomers believe the comet will be visible with a good pair of field binoculars about the middle of August. After then it should become visible in the Northern hemisphere’s predawn sky with the naked eye.

Comet watchers claim that the huge dust trail behind Elenin might become very bright with the tail glowing across the night sky.

The Earth is expected to pass through the giant tail, and the debris may generate fantastic meteor showers for as long as two and a half months.

Comet generates controversy and conspiracy theories

Recently, a growing number of conspiracy theories have sprung up around the discovery of the long-period comet. Some are linking its appearance on the other side of the sun to the 9.0 earthquake that devastated northern Japan. Others believe it may fulfill the “prediction” some read into the end of the Mayan calendar on December 21, 2012.

A few, with private channels to unnamed professional sky watchers claim the comet’s orbit is unstable and may encounter dark bodies such as the cometary debris known as the “Taurid objects.” They go on to argue that Elenin carries a huge cloud of material with it and if the orbital path remains consistent the Earth will collide with that debris.

Of course, many astronomers anticipate that happening. It’s why there would be astounding meteor showers after the comet’s passing.

Elenin’s orbital path seems to be constantly changing, however, as it falls inwards towards the sun. As one observer has noted, when Leonid Elenin discovered the comet calculations indicated it would pass by Earth at a distance almost nine times the distance of the Sun. Now, however, recalculations reveal that distance has significantly shrunk to as low as 0.15 AU.
Further perturbations in Elenin’s orbital path may be affected by it’s passage through the Oort belt—a huge halo of cometary bodies, giant asteroids and debris that encircles the outer solar system.

Will it strike Earth as some fear? No way, says Ray Villard of Space.com ["Will Earthbound Comet Fulfill 2012 Prophecy?"]. http://news.discovery.com/space/will-earthbound-comet-fulfill-2012-prophecy.html
Villard points out that “The closest ever-recoded flyby of Earth was comet Lexell in 1770, which passed at 1.4 million miles. On Jan. 26th that year a magnitude 9.0 earthquake took place off the west coast of the North America.”

Comets and earthquakes again. Could there really be a connection after all?

Although some insist there is a connection ["NASA's Website Accidentally Predicts Another Catastrophic Earthquake in 2011"] virtually all astronomers and geophysicists say no way.
http://www.benzinga.com/press-releases/11/04/e969150/nasas-website-accidentally-predicts-another-catastrophic-earthquake-in-#ixzz1IOIuTFRM


So what can be expected? Well, if all goes right the greatest night time sky show seen in hundreds of years will occur.

[loveandgratitude]

So....we are getting a lot of mixed messages. Some of the astomeners who act independently are saying "NO PROBLEM" . THe other half of the government NASA etc are giving DIRE WARNINGS.

Some of the camp is saying - METEOR SHOWERS
Others are saying - METEOR STORMS
When others are saying - EARTH CHANGES.

The US Military is on the move. This could be a FALSE FLAG event or they know something is coming. A false flag would make sense in the understanding of the contradictory facts regarding Elenin. Is this the last chance to bring in Marshall Law because Obama is on the way out?

I think that at least it would be a good idea to prepare with food and water and make things good with God. At least, it will not hurt you.

Be postive and strong and keep informed.

[loveandgratitude]

COMET ELENIN UPDATE

UPDATE 11:09AM CDT 6/23/2011 This video contains the image taken with a luminence filter. When Elenin moves away from the first location it looks like a faint star disappears too (around 3:04 is a good shot when I showed it disappear). After receiving the question I pulled up the red image I took last night becasue I took four images in total. The star remains. Everything stays there when Elenin leaves.

We DO need to look at how Elenin made the other stars fade and if that was a result of exposure of quality of image. This UPDATE is to inform you that if you saw somthing disappear..... YOU DIDN'T! I will make another video I guess using the red image. ~ Francis

Good morning. The video quality probably sucks and so does my voice so early in the morning (or late at night). I'm going to leave this video for you to listen to.

I hope I said something that helped you. I hope what I am doing is fueling the debate. I fear it's just another stepping stone to the next best theory.

Well..... This isn't theory; it's proof of the object called C/2010 X1 Comet Elenin.

"Just where they said it would be."

So we're on to the next prey; Comet Levy.

We'll track this comet now every other day as we move on to catalog all the "named" NEO objects on their way to Earth.

If I find Nibiru I'll tell you.

"I haven't found Nibiru, Tonto!"



http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePerfectMinds#p/f/0/pub5ujuMNtM

[loveandgratitude]

Dr.Carl Calleman Discuss Comet Elenin and Mayan Prophecy

Leading researcher in Mayan calandar says Elenin and Honda may play a key role prophecies.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxB_AtMyWjo

[loveandgratitude]

http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2010/08nov10/elenin1_strip.jpg

Leonid Elenin took the picture on Nov. 7th 2010 using a robotic telescope in New Mexico

[loveandgratitude]

Astronomer Tracking Instructions For The ELEnin Comet/Dwarf Star

http://72.52.195.202/~goground/index.php?topic=116.0

Many people are writing with requests for information on how to pinpoint the exact location of the ELEnin object that I believe to be a NASA Psyop hiding an approaching dwarf star (ATS Topic). This topic is all about providing every amateur astronomer the tools needed to point your telescope in the right direction for tracking what appears to be a mini solar system with multiple orbiting satellites now crossing the Leo Constellation. You must have Google Earth (download) installed on your computer that hopefully has sufficient capabilities to execute a file that holds all the ELE coordinates. Open your Google Earth program and hit 'View' then 'Explore' then 'Sky.'

http://ubasti.cfa.harvard.edu/~cgi/ReturnPrepEph?d=c&o=CK10X010

Now open the link and move down until you see the KML file link:

http://ubasti.cfa.harvard.edu/~cgi/BuildKML?o=CK10X010&d=c

Download the KML file to your computer. Now with Google Sky running execute the file. Some people have complained that their system cannot perform this function. You should be looking at a series of yellow pins showing the daily position of our ELE object like this:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/ELE.jpg

Zoom in carefully to note the pinned information shows the dates that came from the ELE coordinate data. Now you can pinpoint the exact location of this object, before heading out to use the telescope.

ELEnin Current Position:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/ELE472011.jpg

Today our ELEnin object passes directly over 58 Leo in the direction of a straight line drawn between 58 Leo and 59 Leo above. Tomorrow (4/09/2011) this ELE object crosses that 58 Leo/59 Leo line directly in between these two reference points. This ELE dwarf star will be located directly below NGC 3423 on 4/17/2011 going into 4/18/2011. I will post an update picture when our object passes beyond the FOV of this one.
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Updated picture: http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/ELE4242011.jpg

Our references markers are 48 Leo below and 49 Leo above with the ELEnin object moving from left to right until about May 28, 2011 approaching 44 Leo on the right. The ELEnin object then begins backtracking over the same path, until reaching perigee on 9/11/2011 (not shown). The ELE object will pass directly between 48 Leo and 49 Leo on May 5, 2011 for this object to move within the Leo 48/49/44 triangle from May 5, 2011 to 6/19/2011, which in my opinion represents a very good time to capture one of the orbiting satellites orbiting outside the dwarf star proton cloud. The ELE object will appear to hover near motionless on approaching 44 Leo between 5/24/2011 and about 6/08/2011 just to the left of 44 Leo, before passing directly between 48 Leo and 49 Leo from the right on 6/19/2011.
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Links:

ELEnin JPL: http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=1;log=0;cad=1#cad

http://poleshift.ning.com/

http://poleshift.ning.com/forum/topics/last-trimester-event-timeline

http://dprogram.net/2008/05/21/as-america-collapses-us-government-secret-plans-revealed/

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/30oct_ftes/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi7wpEIGU0I&feature=player_embedded

What Google/NASA are hiding: http://www.usmessageboard.com/conspiracy-theories/155254-google-is-deliberately-hiding-nibiru-images-5h-53m-27s-6-10-58-a.html

[loveandgratitude]

Today We will Try For Our Last Picture of Comet Elenin For The Next Few Months
•June 24, 2011 • 7 Comments

Sydneystargazers is a astronomy site which for the last few months has been taking pictures of Elenin to prove that it is a comet and not a brown dwarf as some on the Internet may want you to believe.

We have proved that Elenin is nothing more than a comet and will take one more picture opportunity of Elenin in a little while and make it the last shot of Elenin for the time being until the comet gets closer to the Sun later this year. When we start taking pictures of Elenin in a few months time we are hoping to have some great shots of this comet.

So after today we will be focusing on more important issues such as the brightening supernova in M51.

Update:

Below is the latest picture of elenin at position 10h 37m 24s +7° 18′ 22″

FOR PHOTOS PLEASE GO TO THIS LINK AS THEY HAVE ASKED THAT THEIR PHOTOS NOT TO BE RE-PRODUCED ON OTHER SITES. Scroll down to this article and view photos of Elenin.

http://sydneystargazers.com/

[Mutchie]

Go girl proud of you caroline !!!

[Calz]

HOAXLAND IS A SHILL

I guess if we believed government employees, past or present, we wouldn't be members of this forum.

I think that Leonid Elenin's website www.spaceobs.org is a shill also. I looked through the website briefly and couldn't find anything about the alignment dates. Has anybody else found anything credible on this website? Do you guys believe that Elenin has a 12, 989 year orbit?

Most every Camelot interview subject has been trashed by someone or another.

Bob Dean is such a "teddy bear" perhaps no one will dare say a discouraging word.

No doubt there are others.

Seems odd avalon/camelot members who are here (allegedly) because of such interviews have such negativity to heap upon them.

As I recall Hoagland was a member of the "press" which (officially) (last I checked) is not a government agency (altho they sure follow marching orders ... but going back what ... to the 60's when he was covering Nasa things were not so blatant?)

Hi Calz,

I was actually quoting Mutchie with "HOAXLAND IS A SHILL" but I lost my quotation marks while I was cutting it down....still a newbie. As far as Hoagland goes, his facebook info says he was a former Nasa consultant and that to me says government. Regardless, it doesn't matter to me if it's the government, the church, a teacher, my parents, my best-friends or my husband. I evauate EVERYTHING I hear with my own discernment. Just because somebody has a valid point in one respect doesn't mean the next thing out of their mouth will be just as valid. Everyone including me has been a shill without even realizing it. We repeat what we hear because we think it's truth. Just because it's been said over and over again doesn't make it my truth. But I digress, in my experience government/military are so segregated that they only see part of the whole unless they are out of the box thinkers.

Funny you should mention Bob Dean. I just watched their last interview with him and I could swear that I heard him tell Kerry to check something herself....not to believe him. I don't recall the subject and it really doesn't matter the point is the same "CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF". By the way people, how does somebody 82 look that good.

"Seems odd avalon/camelot members who are here (allegedly) because of such interviews have such negativity to heap upon them." Now Calz, you couldn't be talking about me here because you don't know me well enough to make that statement. But it's nice to see you have such loyalty to this forum.:p

Just got back to this thread.

Thanks for the elaboration. My comment(s) were triggered by the "HOAX" comment but it was simply a matter of building frustration. It was not directed at anyone in particular just grabbed the "quote" (which you say got lost in edits which happen sometimes).

I got my "rant on" in another (started) thread so there is nothing to really add.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23155-Trashing-Camelot-Avalon-whistleblowers

I *do* appreciate the follow up as my biggest frustration is "hit and run" smears without explanations or following up on calls for elaboration.

Cheers :yo:

[DoubleHelix]

One doesn't have to allow themselves to get frustrated

If you finds someones' material to be of some value, then surely that's all that matters.

Defending someone as a virtual bodyguard is a battle already lost, for every public figure (including alternative) will have there share of naysayers.

That's the nature of the game, one could even view the negativity as a positive.

[Calz]

One doesn't have to allow themselves to get frustrated

If you finds someones' material to be of some value, then surely that's all that matters.

Defending someone as a virtual bodyguard is a battle already lost, for every public figure (including alternative) will have there share of naysayers.

That's the nature of the game, one could even view the negativity as a positive.

Agreed.

I am rather laid back.

Out of 1300+ posts the only time I have ever gotten "worked up" is when I make a post regarding one of the many camelot/avalon interviewees and either I sustain a personal attack for doing so or the subject of the post sustains a personal attack.

If there is an expanation given for a difference of opinion I am fine with that (regardless of if I agree of not).

Differing opinions are good for growth. In those circumstances I will consider the other opinion and not simply dismiss it.

If, on the other hand, someone says "XXXXXXXX is an idiot and you are an even bigger idiot for believing in XXXXXXXX" and disappears from the thread without following up or offering an explanation for the comment ... that is what I have issue with.


*** adding ***


my other "rant" thread I put in the "ligher side" forum and had fun with:


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17984-WHAT-How--DARE--a-Nugget-start-a-Fulford-Thread

[DoubleHelix]

Schoolyard tactics like 'hit n runs' are commonplace amongst forums... adds to the drama.

And everybody loves drama - as most would of witnessed over the last 6 months.

[Mutchie]

Does anyone have any info on the camelot conference call regarding ELENIN ????? THANK YOU

[Carolin]

Personally, I can do without the drama. Truth is subjective and very personal. As far as experts, teachers or gurus....I always try and avoid the ones who think they have all the answers. They are usually speaking from their ego and not the higher truth. But, that's just my opinion.

[Calz]

Interesting post from Joseph Farrell:


IF YOU HAPPEN TO SEE AN ANGEL UP THERE, IT’S CLASSIFIED


June 24, 2011 By Joseph P. Farrell

Ok, with all the fear pornography running loose with Comet Elenin, this story appears:

Angels In Space\”Top Secret Hallucinations\”

I am, as most know by now, suspicious of such stories, for the simple reason that, now, they seem to be cropping up with increased intensity with all the hysteria associated with comet Elenin. Whether or not the cosmonauts saw anything genuine, or experienced some sort of mass hallucination, is immaterial. What is important is that the “angels” were also described as “aliens”: “The aliens looked like humans, but were of higher stature. They also had large wings behind their backs and luminous halos above their heads. The creatures looked like angels.”

It would be all too easy to plant the story of human-like “aliens,” after all, such was the story of George Adamski. And it has long been a favorite of the ufology religion to interpret such appearances as rationalization for ancient myths and stories of angels. Consider also the source: Russia. It is intriguing to me that this story comes from Russia, with a repeat of the story that the Hubble telescope photographed a “space city.”

What we’re looking at here is, obviously, pure propaganda, but notice what seems to be happening lately, with all the spate of TV shows (and movies) about unfriendly aliens launching sudden and devastating invasions of earth: V, Independence Day, Falling Skies, the Event, and on and on it has gone. From one point of view, it’s been a nice entertainment and distraction for the troubles right here on planet Earth.

But I’ve noticed something, and I’m wondering if I’m the only one: the Elenin hysteria seems to be filling the last two stages of the celebrated Von-Braun/Rosin Affidavit with one fell swoop. For those that don’t remember the story, Dr. Carol Rosin maintains that she, as one of Dr. Wernher Von Braun’s last professional associates at Fairchild Industries, told her that the elite had a pre-planned program of “enemies,” which would allow them to put “weapons in space,” presumably weapons of mass destruction (for reasons we’ll get to shortly). According to Rosin, Von Braun told her that the first enemy against whom we’d have to deploy weapons in space was the Communists, the Russians. Then it would be terrorists, then “nations of concern”(that’s the third world crazies), then would come asteroids on collision courses with the Earth, and finally, extraterrestrials.

Well, how convenient it is to have comets and asteroids in weird orbits, and with even weirder properties that suggest to some that they might be “artificial.” One may be looking at a manufactured attempt to kill two birds in Von Braun’s affidavit, with one stone: both aliens and asteroids: the aliens “are coming on a comet” in an extinction level event. We’d better get those GRASERS (gamma-ray lasers) up in orbit quickly, and crank up the ionospheric heaters…. well, you get the idea.


http://gizadeathstar.com/2011/06/if-you-happen-to-see-an-angel-up-there-its-classified/

[Operator]

Interesting post from Joseph Farrell:

...

Well, how convenient it is to have comets and asteroids in weird orbits, and with even weirder properties that suggest to some that they might be “artificial.” One may be looking at a manufactured attempt to kill two birds in Von Braun’s affidavit, with one stone: both aliens and asteroids: the aliens “are coming on a comet” in an extinction level event. We’d better get those GRASERS (gamma-ray lasers) up in orbit quickly, and crank up the ionospheric heaters…. well, you get the idea.

Well that's not new, we've that covered several times I think in this thread. But it's good to emphasize again I think.
And of course the story will be used to make some more money on taking 'grasers' up in orbit. But that's only the
money making scheme

I got a new idea recently about what would be more effective and may possibly applied: Chem Trails ...
Remember that there is a lot of Aluminum and Barium composites measured from them.

Didn't Boyd Bushman tell David Sereda that Aluminum contains special properties in regard to gravity ?
So, maybe those metal screens will make it difficult for such machines to enter our atmosphere ... ;)

[Calz]

Interesting post from Joseph Farrell:

...

Well, how convenient it is to have comets and asteroids in weird orbits, and with even weirder properties that suggest to some that they might be “artificial.” One may be looking at a manufactured attempt to kill two birds in Von Braun’s affidavit, with one stone: both aliens and asteroids: the aliens “are coming on a comet” in an extinction level event. We’d better get those GRASERS (gamma-ray lasers) up in orbit quickly, and crank up the ionospheric heaters…. well, you get the idea.

Well that's not new, we've that covered several times I think in this thread. But it's good to emphasize again I think.
And of course the story will be used to make some more money on taking 'grasers' up in orbit. But that's only the
money making scheme

I got a new idea recently about what would be more effective and may possibly applied: Chem Trails ...
Remember that there is a lot of Aluminum and Barium composites measured from them.

Didn't Boyd Bushman tell David Sereda that Aluminum contains special properties in regard to gravity ?
So, maybe those metal screens will make it difficult for such machines to enter our atmosphere ... ;)

I copied his whole post ... the "angels/aliens" being classified material is what I found amusing :)

As for aluminum and barium ... interesting theory (among many).

No doubt it is happening:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wd3ncIHwFS8


*** adding ***

In respect to the thread title ... the elenin conference speakers are in agreement that it *is* a comet (albiet unusual but not niburu or dwarf). That is all I will share (aside from there being some all day *serious* DOS attacks on Camelot site putting it up yesterday). Someone tried desperately to shut down the spread of the material which should say something in itself. Still available to those who want the details.

[Operator]

I copied his whole post ... the "angels/aliens" being classified material is what I found amusing :)


Yeah, no problem ... my remark was just related to the last part.
So that's why I left out the first part.



As for aluminum and barium ... interesting theory (among many).

No doubt it is happening:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wd3ncIHwFS8

Good find and memory ... :thumb:

That was exactly the post and thread I wanted to launch this idea (but I had to no time then and forgot about it).
But the case on the ranch could very well underline this theory ...

[Eyes2theSkies]

Thanks for the further video, bashi, I am still trying to educate myself on this subject. There is still so much we don't know and can't see - unless we can afford big, expensive telescopes. I learned, several years ago, that broaching the subject of UFOs, planet X or anything else unusual, with the local public astronomers does not go well. A local astronomer, here in central Ohio, has a newspaper column so, I started out asking some basic questions about our local observatory (which this man is involved with) and recieved a kind, courteous reply to my email. Once I felt that my questions were being taken seriously, I asked a simple question - had he ever seen anything he could not explain? His reply was short and to the point, essentially he didn't have time to waste on this sort of question and he believed there was nothing out there that wasn't covered in astronomy books, meteorlogical text, psychology books or were aircraft and sattelites of our own design. This terminated our discussion, permanently, despite my humble reply of thanks.

Yes, we must find new ways of gathering information about what is happening in our solar system and the universe, without relying on scientists who are afraid of losing funding or admitting that they don't know everything!

[Carmody]

Pretty dire warnings here. I'm just wondering how many of these will it take each of us to listen to in order to get off our butts and prepare .

Well normally my family goes on vacation to the Netherlands during summer. I somehow convinced them that this year may not be the most convenient period to be traveling.
We will stay in the Caribbean, thus giving us more time to finalize preparations. We have seeds planted, some food and other items stored.
But I can use the extra time to finalize my windmill and rainwater storage. Need to clean out the 20 foot container too. It can nicely serve as shelter as well as Faraday cage.
(Although not perfect it will probably protect somewhat against direct radiation too)

I am not at all that certain that it is Elenin that is going to create mayhem on this planet ... but there will be almost certain rough times ahead and we need to prepare anyway.
So yeah, Yiolas I know what you mean ... we have to do less talking and more doing ...

When TSHTF there will be not much time left ... to do personal preparation. That time will be consumed by 'others'. Either get them up to speed to or 'deal' with them
otherwise (hope that's not case of course). But by preparing now you already show them a good example to follow.
My former neighbor installed a rainwater storage capacity of 1000 gallons ! So trying to be an example already works ... :peace:

Go to manufacturing or industrial faculties to buy these for cheap, if you want to got that way:

http://www.ecrecon.com/pictures/16/331/MISC-331a.JPG

Of course, only buy those that had benign chemicals (eg, organics), and clean thoroughly. Depending on the given acid, they may actually be the best choice. rinse etc.. fill, sit, let leech, rinse, etc.

Never tell them that you intend to use them for potable water, or they may refuse to sell them to you.

30-40 drops of MMS, and the water will be stable for months.

What to tell them: That you and the partner just bought a hobby farm or woodsy house with a barn. Behind the barn is a place that you have put new trees and plants in. Nothing for eating.

But, they need watering. So you want a container to catch the rainfall runoff from the barn roof, for watering these plants and new trees. You need to water the trees, but you need containers with the least dangerous chemicals in them and ones that can actually be cleansed of the given chemical/resin/whatever.

That story is believable. Use it.

These are called 'totes'. (these are 250 gallon 'skid totes') Ones that had "propylene glycol" in them are probably the best choice as the glycol is a food additive. The same food grade glycol is used in manufacturing facilities, not just food factories.

[Operator]

Go to manufacturing or industrial faculties to buy these for cheap, if you want to got that way:

http://www.ecrecon.com/pictures/16/331/MISC-331a.JPG

Of course, only buy those that had benign chemicals (eg, organics), and clean thoroughly. Depending on the given acid, they may actually be the best choice. rinse etc.. fill, sit, let leech, rinse, etc.

Never tell them that you intend to use them for potable water, or they may refuse to sell them to you.

30-40 drops of MMS, and the water will be stable for months.

What to tell them: That you and the partner just bought a hobby farm or woodsy house with a barn. Behind the barn is a place that you have put new trees and plants in. Nothing for eating.

But, they need watering. So you want a container to catch the rainfall runoff from the barn roof, for watering these plants and new trees. You need to water the trees, but you need containers with the least dangerous chemicals in them and ones that can actually be cleansed of the given chemical/resin/whatever.

That story is believable. Use it.

These are called 'totes'. (these are 250 gallon 'skid totes') Ones that had "propylene glycol" in them are probably the best choice as the glycol is a food additive. The same food grade glycol is used in manufacturing facilities, not just food factories.

My neighbor got a 380 gallon brand new one which was quite expensive ... however it's black and does block the light to prevent algae forming in the water.
He has 2 of the crated white ones too ... they are sold by our local water company (so they're safe). They are 1 cubic meter = 1000 liters (approx. 250 Gallons indeed).
But algae might form in those ... he will use these for flushing the toilets and other cleaning jobs.

Now we're finally into ground crew talk ... the original purpose of the forum.

[blufire]

Hi guys,

Go to "farm supply stores" that sell water tanks. They come in all sizes and shapes and generally cheaper than "specialty" water tanks.

[The Truth Is In There]

"This is a condensed, summary, one video version of the Red Devil Planet series based on a caller into the Freedomslips radio show who seems to have inside, first hand knowledge about an incoming Dwarf Star solar system and what's to come.
Original Air date 6-6-2011 on http://www.freedomslips.com/
Warning: Not for the weak hearted."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTLvNJSEBHM&feature=related

make of it what you want. could be disinfo but i like it.

[Mike Gorman]

I hope this doesn't go over everyone's head once again.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists%21-We-have-Nibiru-instead%21&p=242372&viewfull=1#post242372

The gentleman who discovered the object reassures us that no threat exists...I'm with him actually. This Doomsday Moses who is leading
survival groups into caves-in the Ozarks and groups here in Australia too, wow..I'd hate to be caught up with him in some cave-society, can you imagine the
megalomania? If he is right I am prepared to eat my words...

[yiolas]

Wow, that's quite a scenario there in the video. It has a lot of what Sitchen wrote about as well as what Nancy and the Zetas are saying.

What about, "Elenin = Extinction Level Event Niburu Is Near ?

The effects of the electromagnatic energy on our brains reminds me of something as well.

I think that the only thing we can do about this is stay close to mother earth and remain centered and calm.

[TargeT]

make of it what you want. could be disinfo but i like it.

so this is behind our sun and picking up speed as it prepares to pass, meaning no "hard evidence" will be avalible untill "too late" ?

Lead lined helmets eh? wonder if there's somewhere that does 2nd day shipping..:shocked:

I certainly hope this isn't true,

[Etherios]

Just got back after 3 weeks overseas.

At LAX feeding 2 kids at McDonalds cost $20 ... make up you own minds on value ...

:hungry::hungry:

O.O You feed your kids McDeath still??? Sad...

[Etherios]

One doesn't have to allow themselves to get frustrated

If you finds someones' material to be of some value, then surely that's all that matters.

Defending someone as a virtual bodyguard is a battle already lost, for every public figure (including alternative) will have there share of naysayers.

That's the nature of the game, one could even view the negativity as a positive.

The problem is that in today's societies ... smear is more powerful than facts/truth. So most here being used to see good honest people get smeared without any reason by nobodies and see them "lose" credibility cause an idiot said something bad about them with no fact to back him then you tend to get defensive with information that you think is right.


p.s. i hope this makes sense... need more coffee

[Thefrenzy1978]

How can it hide behind the sun the Earth goes around the sun and if it was a big red fire ball we would have seen it.

[Etherios]

I hope this doesn't go over everyone's head once again.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists%21-We-have-Nibiru-instead%21&p=242372&viewfull=1#post242372

The gentleman who discovered the object reassures us that no threat exists...I'm with him actually. This Doomsday Moses who is leading
survival groups into caves-in the Ozarks and groups here in Australia too, wow..I'd hate to be caught up with him in some cave-society, can you imagine the
megalomania? If he is right I am prepared to eat my words...

Maybe i am an idealist living in a bubbled world but i believe that the source will never make a planet/solar system that kills life every few thousands of years. I mean it makes the hole material experience void.

Its a lot easier for me to believe the hole armageddon/doom scenarios are made by the Elites so they can use fear to control us. Remember almost all religious books were written by the elites, so when ever i read bible/coran etc explanation studies i just ignore them. The only info we can get from those books is the cultist msgs that these "elites" are pushing down our throats. Once you get to this position then everything makes sense tbh, there is no reason for all this circle of death every few thousand years.

Thats just me ofc dont have any facts about it but the elites wrote the doom scenario so they can play it to become reality for the sheeple and blame god/nature.

[greybeard]

The red devil planet video is stretching credibility to the utmost.
I sincerely hope he is so far wrong as to be out of sight.

Im sure something is going on and I wish to believe that is it is positive.
Getting real simple
Our body is atoms in movement --- we have a light body also Merkeba? -- cant spell.
It is very possible for profound change to happen to the perceived body which we inhabit.
I have faith in what enlightened sages have said.
Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth" worth a read. (to balance all the doom and gloom)
Dr David Hawkins said " The human race is due for a change in perception-- we will see the world totally differently."
I would be inclined to take their word for it.

Chris

[Calz]

Just got back after 3 weeks overseas.

At LAX feeding 2 kids at McDonalds cost $20 ... make up you own minds on value ...

:hungry::hungry:

O.O You feed your kids McDeath still??? Sad...

Lol.

Only in desperation ... like after a 14 hour flight when serious jet lag and location limits your options. You pop for popcorn at the movies???

:pop2:

My wife and I had simple cold sandwiches which added up to even more ($30).

Both my sons know very well about MacDeath. That was their choice of the few options we had available. 2 or 3 times a year won't kill anybody. (... or will it???)

But thank you ... you are spot on!!! :spit:

[Cidersomerset]

http://xfacts.com/x2.htm

This is a nice little presentation by Jason at Mufon 2010 I think ?...

Sorry this vid is a lot older than I thought, doesn't time fly when your having fun..

I Thought Jason was ageing well..LOL..

SQXohYG5mYs

This is from 2011, I Think ?

vzxoVyU4WV4

This one is from 2007..LOL ....something to look at later cheers Steve

ruO70qNKrWc

This is Definatley from 2011..LOL...( Getting annoyed now ) ..Cheers Steve

[ghostrider]

I have watched a large mass with four objects in tow, since last summer and every news outlet was silent. I saw pics of these objects on the web one year later and it totally scared the #$% out of me . this is what I've been tracking and why the media is silent, cause it's going to affect our way of life and reason for the D.U.M.B.S. and by 2012 the cycle will be complete. nothing else really matters. didn't fema order a bunch of body bags, we now have food insurance, troops are coming home, obama's staff are leaving going home, the murial at denver airport, japan quake, it's over 100 everyday here, our trees think it's october leaves changing color in july? the dwart is the center of everything, magma heating earth shifting, two suns rising, oceans rising dams breaking , weather changing, mass animals dying. everything comes back to the dwarf.. aren't there entire ancient cities found UNDER WATER ? there was a flood, and it will flood again. the mass of an approaching star will affect our oceans.

[ghostrider]

How can it hide behind the sun the Earth goes around the sun and if it was a big red fire ball we would have seen it.
go on my profile page I have a pic, it's visible by infrared, or look south at 9 pm, sunset the left mercury, then left, mars, the left boom red ball of fire. in pretty much a line.

[Etherios]

Just got back after 3 weeks overseas.

At LAX feeding 2 kids at McDonalds cost $20 ... make up you own minds on value ...

:hungry::hungry:

O.O You feed your kids McDeath still??? Sad...

Lol.

Only in desperation ... like after a 14 hour flight when serious jet lag and location limits your options. You pop for popcorn at the movies???

:pop2:

My wife and I had simple cold sandwiches which added up to even more ($30).

Both my sons know very well about MacDeath. That was their choice of the few options we had available. 2 or 3 times a year won't kill anybody. (... or will it???)

But thank you ... you are spot on!!! :spit:

I am Greek so ill say what Ancient Greek said " ALL measure is the best" So ye i dont think it will be that bad to taste McDeath every now and then. I mean we get toxins from so many thing that occasional "BaD" habits dont make much difference.

This is why its called soft kill ... the symptoms are not immediate ... takes time for the bad to start working hehe.

[greybeard]

ghostrider I dont dispute what you saw or say just possibly your interpretation.
The end result may not be extinction level and yes there is a history of it.
Who knows the sea may go down and these ancient cities emerge.
I dont think that anyone knows for sure what is in store for us.
There is not much I can do about it anyway.
In God I trust---- is the bottom line or me.

Regards Chris

[Calz]

If we post all the hazards to our health in our environment ... well ... 100 page dedicated thread???

[nearing]

"This is a condensed, summary, one video version of the Red Devil Planet series based on a caller into the Freedomslips radio show who seems to have inside, first hand knowledge about an incoming Dwarf Star solar system and what's to come.
Original Air date 6-6-2011 on http://www.freedomslips.com/
Warning: Not for the weak hearted."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTLvNJSEBHM&feature=related

make of it what you want. could be disinfo but i like it.

And just who is this non-eloquent speaker? How does he claim to speak with authority?

Lead-lined helmets? And how is it that we have ancient accounts of this body coming around and near us before if it wipes out memory? Did they have lead-lined helmets 3600 years ago? *rolling eyes*

And what does he base his statement that it will come sooner than NASA predicted on? Does he really think that NASA doesn't take the rate of velocity increasing as it nears perihelion into account? Really?

Sorry, this guy strikes me as a liar, trying to get people worked up more than they already are. Of course, he has thrown in some truth to make his lies sound more believable but he isn't fooling me.

[The Truth Is In There]

nearing, don't forget that this is an uplifting message for many people! not everyone thinks of the arrival of planet x and a pole shift as negative things. mother earth is being poisoned, ravaged and destroyed by mankind through whatever means possible. i wish nothing more than an end to this because if it doesn't happen then not only mother earth will be killed but also all the species living (and suffering) on her, including humanity. i want to see a world without money, wars, greed, hate and so on and the only way to reach this goal is through complete annihilation of the existing paradigms. i'm absolutely sure the love & light ascension scenario where suddenly all is well, the bad guys get punished or removed and all the good people live happily ever after won't come to pass. i trust in prophecies and almost all of them speak about a bright future for earth and mankind, but only after devastating earth changes saw a much reduced population start again from scratch.

[The Truth Is In There]

Maybe i am an idealist living in a bubbled world but i believe that the source will never make a planet/solar system that kills life every few thousands of years. I mean it makes the hole material experience void.

Its a lot easier for me to believe the hole armageddon/doom scenarios are made by the Elites so they can use fear to control us. Remember almost all religious books were written by the elites, so when ever i read bible/coran etc explanation studies i just ignore them. The only info we can get from those books is the cultist msgs that these "elites" are pushing down our throats. Once you get to this position then everything makes sense tbh, there is no reason for all this circle of death every few thousand years.

Thats just me ofc dont have any facts about it but the elites wrote the doom scenario so they can play it to become reality for the sheeple and blame god/nature.

this is all about free will. if we destroy ourselves every few thousand years that's fine with creator. it has also happened on other planets and if it wasn't for the coming ascension earth would eventually be totally destroyed (thanks to humanity), and not just a large part of us like in the past.

[nearing]

nearing, don't forget that this is an uplifting message for many people! not everyone thinks of the arrival of planet x and a pole shift as negative things. mother earth is being poisoned, ravaged and destroyed by mankind through whatever means possible. i wish nothing more than an end to this because if it doesn't happen then not only mother earth will be killed but also all the species living (and suffering) on her, including humanity. i want to see a world without money, wars, greed, hate and so on and the only way to reach this goal is through complete annihilation of the existing paradigms. i'm absolutely sure the love & light ascension scenario where suddenly all is well, the bad guys get punished or removed and all the good people live happily ever after won't come to pass. i trust in prophecies and almost all of them speak about a bright future for earth and mankind, but only after devastating earth changes saw a much reduced population start again from scratch.

I know there are a few of us who look forward to this event as I am one of them. But the vast majority of people are just frightened by this and this man is playing on that. He doesn't speak of the Golden Age or ascension or a 'cleansing'. He is not helping those of us happy about this and trying to keep other's fear in check.

[Etherios]

this is all about free will. if we destroy ourselves every few thousand years that's fine with creator. it has also happened on other planets and if it wasn't for the coming ascension earth would eventually be totally destroyed (thanks to humanity), and not just a large part of us like in the past.

Wait ... how is Elinin/Dawrf star/nibiru/etc Free will? If its true this isnt human made destruction SO its not Free will. Also we CANNOT destroy the earth. To her we are bugs that can only leave maybe a scar. Earth cant be destroyed by humans ... dont mix this up. The only think we can destroy is the ecosystem and our selves. The earth will heal the ecosystem eventually but her self cant be harmed. Also does ascension come every few thousand years? Cause thats what i am saying ... the repeatable cycle.

If Elinin/Dawrf star/nibiru/etc is repeatable then it has nothing to do with ascension. We dont ascend every few thousand year i mean this isnt a joke. Thats why i say i dont think we will have a doom scenario.

So ill repeat ... if there is a cycle it has nothing to do with free will and with ascension. So my opinion is that the creator would never force a doom cycle on us. I am sure dooms happened in the past but either we killed our selves, ETs brought the moon and killed most humans etc. But that are not in a cycle. I hope people would stop mixing events that are human/ET/chance made and a repeatable cycle of the local universe. For the human/ET/chance scenarios i am sure the creator wouldnt mind (free will and natural disasters) but in the repeat cycle its like he removes free will from us and demands our physical death every few thousand years. I disagree with that.

[Mutchie]

I am just finished reading an article by Michael E Salla in which he states thats he believes that ELENIN is actually A HUGE SPACESHIP being followed by a fleet of smaller crafts and he has others supporting him in this , for starters they talk about its orbit and they say it is not a natural orbit but that it seems to be piloted furthermore they talk about the dates september 11 th the exact allignment date on its way out C,MON GUYS can that be a co incidence i think not , also they made note of the fact that the russians stated that this object passes us like clockwork every 13600 years which would be in line with the mayan calendar but nasa doesnt agree with that they say this is a one off event.......So lets just suppose this object is a spaceship my first thought would have to be the ANNUNAKI and if that is so could that be part of the reasons why the americans were in such a hurry to invade Iraq because they knew these guys were coming back there, was supposed to be all sorts of ancient stuff being found over there so WHAT WOULD THEIR INTENTIONS BE ? it was said they used us as slaves the last time and what of their technology if they have the ability to travel from place to place we are living in interesting times no doubt about that !

[The Truth Is In There]

this is all about free will. if we destroy ourselves every few thousand years that's fine with creator. it has also happened on other planets and if it wasn't for the coming ascension earth would eventually be totally destroyed (thanks to humanity), and not just a large part of us like in the past.

Wait ... how is Elinin/Dawrf star/nibiru/etc Free will? If its true this isnt human made destruction SO its not Free will. Also we CANNOT destroy the earth. To her we are bugs that can only leave maybe a scar. Earth cant be destroyed by humans ... dont mix this up. The only think we can destroy is the ecosystem and our selves. The earth will heal the ecosystem eventually but her self cant be harmed. Also does ascension come every few thousand years? Cause thats what i am saying ... the repeatable cycle.

If Elinin/Dawrf star/nibiru/etc is repeatable then it has nothing to do with ascension. We dont ascend every few thousand year i mean this isnt a joke. Thats why i say i dont think we will have a doom scenario.

So ill repeat ... if there is a cycle it has nothing to do with free will and with ascension. So my opinion is that the creator would never force a doom cycle on us. I am sure dooms happened in the past but either we killed our selves, ETs brought the moon and killed most humans etc. But that are not in a cycle. I hope people would stop mixing events that are human/ET/chance made and a repeatable cycle of the local universe. For the human/ET/chance scenarios i am sure the creator wouldnt mind (free will and natural disasters) but in the repeat cycle its like he removes free will from us and demands our physical death every few thousand years. I disagree with that.

i was referring to man-made destruction, not nibiru, when i mentioned free will. if it wasn't for cyclical destructive events (outside of mankind's influence) that eliminate a large part of humanity and, most importantly, elimiante almost all scientific knowledge, humanity would long ago have destroyed itself and the planet. take the destruction of atlantis, if the knowledge and use of crystals had remained with humanity and been further developed we would have had the means to destroy the planet. it is possible, there are weapons that can do it (humanity is most likely not in possession of one right now, thanks to the destruction cycles!), and if our scientific knowledge wouldn't have been returned to zero time and time again we and possibly the planet wouldn't be here anymore.

of course planet x/nibiru has nothing to do with ascension, nobody said that. it just so happens that it comes along at about the same time as the ascension process goes into its critical phase - 2012. and so it helps the ascension process along because the unprepared people will be removed and those that are left start a new era.

anyway, you seem to forget that all is a game. the doom stuff is part of the game, just like negativity. all this is essential for growth and the development of souls. without something that facilitates growth, such as any kind of discomfort (doom, destruction, etc.), there would be no growth. all souls would stay at their level, enjoy it, and that's that. but that's not the point of creation.

[Mutchie]

i suppose we will have to wait and see what these next allignments bring saying that elenin is supposed to be in allignment with saturn tomorrow

[Lettherebelight]

I know there are a few of us who look forward to this event as I am one of them. But the vast majority of people are just frightened by this and this man is playing on that. He doesn't speak of the Golden Age or ascension or a 'cleansing'. He is not helping those of us happy about this and trying to keep other's fear in check.

I hear you, Nearing. I think we all need to consider the fact that the speaker's identity is veiled, and the beginning credits are attributed to 'Bo Knows Entertainment'

@ the Truth is in There...for anyone with children, this man's words are definitely not an 'uplifting' message.

[The Truth Is In There]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7FxjDh6GmE&feature=related

[alsiani]

I agree with you in everything but one point:
I red somewhere (I'll check later) that this brown dwarf has approximately the same size of Jupiter, not four times bigger.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I give up........ :attention:

Stop. Desist.

1. NASA has identified a large body approaching the solar system. Probable Fact.

2. They have named that large body "Tyche".......let's use that name....like we use 'Jupiter' or 'Saturn' eh?????? FFS! :rolleyes:

3. Niburu is a theory. An unproven fact. Right???????? :noidea:

4. Its not a comet, its a BROWN DWARF STAR !!!!!

5. Elinin is a comet. It may have some effect on Earth. A cometary effect.

6. Elinin is not big enough to affect the sun in the way that the sun is being affected.

7. The sun is being affected by its sister star Tyche which NASA says is 4 times larger than Jupiter.

8. NASA may be wrong, but I trust the information much more that some lunatic making a VID based on dreams or channeling.


Please go easy on the disinformation. Let us try to have a coherent story with which we can understand what is happening to our planet. FCS.

Thank you.

In my previous post I forgot to quote this.
I'm sorry: I'm new to forums.:o

[nearing]

I agree with you in everything but one point:
I red somewhere (I'll check later) that this brown dwarf has approximately the same size of Jupiter, not four times bigger.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I give up........ :attention:

Stop. Desist.

1. NASA has identified a large body approaching the solar system. Probable Fact.

2. They have named that large body "Tyche".......let's use that name....like we use 'Jupiter' or 'Saturn' eh?????? FFS! :rolleyes:

3. Niburu is a theory. An unproven fact. Right???????? :noidea:

4. Its not a comet, its a BROWN DWARF STAR !!!!!

5. Elinin is a comet. It may have some effect on Earth. A cometary effect.

6. Elinin is not big enough to affect the sun in the way that the sun is being affected.

7. The sun is being affected by its sister star Tyche which NASA says is 4 times larger than Jupiter.

8. NASA may be wrong, but I trust the information much more that some lunatic making a VID based on dreams or channeling.


Please go easy on the disinformation. Let us try to have a coherent story with which we can understand what is happening to our planet. FCS.

Thank you.

In my previous post I forgot to quote this.
I'm sorry: I'm new to forums.:o

What I have read is that it has 4 times the 'mass' if Jupiter, not size. Which means it's VERY heavy and has a lot of gravitational and magnetic pull.

[The Truth Is In There]

just an idea. remember the swiss 10 francs note with the image of our solar system on sept 26? there's a white spot where nobody seems to know what it is. what if that is planet x/the red star kachina and comet elenin the blue star kachina heralding its arrival?

if planet x is coming from that direction it would make sense that earlier this year till around april/may it appeared near the sun in certain parts of the world. also, there may have been an alignment with planet x, the sun and earth on march 11.

now, if planet x moves slowly, as the zetas say it does, that would mean there would be another alignment with earth between planet x and the sun later this year, around october 28 (end of the mayan calendar according to calleman) with massive earth changes and then, in august 2012 (end of magnetic trimester according to the zetas), when planet x has moved further towards the sun and earth made a turn around the sun, planet x would make a close pass between the earth & sun resulting in the predicted pole shift.

until that time earth changes would steadily increase because planet x comes ever closer, with emphasis on oct 2011 as mentioned before and march 2012 when earth aligns again with the sun and planet x and both pull from one side.

i could be wrong of course and probably am but it's the only explanation i've found for that white spot, for the kachinas, for the end of the mayan calendar according to calleman, for the alignments & earthquakes, for the zeta's predictions, for the planet x + sun pics & videos and for the basic time line all tied together.

[kevlar]

Hi all
I dont know if this is significant or not but i noticed that one of the crop circles seems to show the solar system on 11 sept 2011 but you need to flip the universe upside down (pole shift?) to get it to fit . This is the date that ELENIN is closest to the sun and of coarse the 10th anniversary of 911.
The crop circle (Allington 2, 28 june11) is showing somthing happening to the earth.
http://www.wccsg.com/2011Gallery/June2011/Allington2/tabid/1019/language/en-US/Default.aspx
What do you think?

love kevlar

*UPDATE* -Just Realised that ELENIN spelt backwards looks like NINE ELEven

http://www.wccsg.com/Portals/6/2011_June/AllingtonOH800.jpg

love kevlar

[Calz]

Thanks for posting the crop circle.

Most crop circles are *way* too complex to be hoaxes (despite a few of the simple ones put up for fun).

From a geometrical standpoint, this one looks easy to construct and with elenin getting so much buzz *perhaps* bears scrutiny.

One of the ways to tell if a pattern is genuine is by examining how the crop stems are flattened. Some are damaged (as if stomped down) while others are not.

[AlexanderLight]

Nibiru Hawaii Observatory [July 2011]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3661LUl1Lik

Description:
Nibiru raises at 02:17 (followed by the Sun) - Video captured by The CFH observatory that hosts a world-class, 3.6 meter optical/infrared telescope. The observatory is located atop the summit of Mauna Kea, a 4200 meter, dormant volcano located on the island of Hawaii.

The CFH Telescope became operational in 1979. The mission of CFHT is to provide for its user community a versatile and state-of-the-art astronomical observing facility which is well matched to the scientific goals of that community and which fully exploits the potential of the Mauna Kea site.

http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/en/gallery/cloudcams/index.php?opts=movies

[Operator]

Description:
Nibiru raises at 02:17 (followed by the Sun) - Video captured by The CFH observatory that hosts a world-class, 3.6 meter optical/infrared telescope. The observatory is located atop the summit of Mauna Kea, a 4200 meter, dormant volcano located on the island of Hawaii.

The CFH Telescope became operational in 1979. The mission of CFHT is to provide for its user community a versatile and state-of-the-art astronomical observing facility which is well matched to the scientific goals of that community and which fully exploits the potential of the Mauna Kea site.

http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/en/gallery/cloudcams/index.php?opts=movies

Impressive video ... however there are some things that are fishy

What we're looking at is footage from a (web)cam ... it has nothing to do with

a world-class, 3.6 meter optical/infrared telescope
So why is it mentioned ? Just to impress people and make it credible ?

I checked where Hawaii exactly is on the global Google map ...
Now the sun is rising on the left and goes to the right ... it means the camera is facing south (south-east more likely).
But Hawaii is still in the tropics belt ... the sun should be north of the tropics.

The date in the lower right hand corner says Sunday may 29th ... someone reports in the comments checking
for possible planets in this direction ... but that should be done for the right date !

I have no software to check it but it can be checked with that JPL browser too ...
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=Elenin;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb

When I go back to may 29th then a whole bunch of planets will precede the sun
Mercury, Venus and Mars almost line up west of the sun and even Jupiter a little more
to the west is in line of sight

So any one with the right software to check it precisely for that date ?

[yiolas]

You can the information that you need from Star Dome (http://www.astronomy.com/stardome.aspx). You don't have to download anything and it's free.

This is the picture that I got when plugging in the data for Waimea, Hawaii were the observatory is located.

The moon is in the area but according to Heavens Above. com (http://www.heavens-above.com/moon.aspx?lat=0&lng=0&loc=Unspecified&alt=0&tz=CET) It was at 20% luminosity on that date.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi All a quick update on last weeks Cash flow 6/7/11 Among the loads of quickfire questions thrown at him again. Then came a question from Barbara 43min.30sec of pt 3. Is Wormwood accociated with Elinen,Nabiru or Planet X ?...
Ion says' nope its Bitter or Better ..Bob says Bitter'? Ion does not respond....Bob continues' is a Brown Dwarf on the Way '? Ion says' NOoo we already did that'...its a 'Blue dwarf not a Brown Dwarf come on'

That was it the point is he has reffered to it as a' Blue Dwarf' for a few weaks , and likened it to the end of season one of 'The Event' when the alian planet came thru the portal and was clearly seen in the sky. So it must be either very large or come close.
I think I wrote this on one of the threads or I'm experiencing Da ja vous..LOL....The point is all the hundreds of questions asked of him , most seem correct others are uncorrobable with our current knowledge .
Has anyone else heard it called a 'Blue Dwarf' elsewhere ? ...I haven't......

As I have said frequently they are a enigma to me...If they are right ,they have been gradually disclosing everything were looking for under our noses........and I have read and watched as much as anybody on here in the
last four yrs.....There must be more than just me following them on here ? How do they come over to you ? Cheers Steve......They seem genuine to me...

[Etherios]

Hi All a quick update on last weeks Cash flow 6/7/11 Among the loads of quickfire questions thrown at him again. Then came a question from Barbara 43min.30sec of pt 3. Is Wormwood accociated with Elinen,Nabiru or Planet X ?...
Ion says' nope its Bitter or Better ..Bob says Bitter'? Ion does not respond....Bob continues' is a Brown Dwarf on the Way '? Ion says' NOoo we already did that'...its a 'Blue dwarf not a Brown Dwarf come on'

That was it the point is he has reffered to it as a' Blue Dwarf' for a few weaks , and likened it to the end of season one of 'The Event' when the alian planet came thru the portal and was clearly seen in the sky. So it must be either very large or come close.
I think I wrote this on one of the threads or I'm experiencing Da ja vous..LOL....The point is all the hundreds of questions asked of him , most seem correct others are uncorrobable with our current knowledge .
Has anyone else heard it called a 'Blue Dwarf' elsewhere ? ...I haven't......

As I have said frequently they are a enigma to me...If they are right ,they have been gradually disclosing everything were looking for under our noses........and I have read and watched as much as anybody on here in the
last four yrs.....There must be more than just me following them on here ? How do they come over to you ? Cheers Steve......They seem genuine to me...

Maybe something to do with the "blue star" or comet the Mayans are referring to?

[Mutchie]

Its a sore fight for a half loaf !!!

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Etherios It could be ? Thats what I thought , but did not get a positive reply when he was asked....He just said its a Blue Dwarf and we will find out soon......But as theres no time he won't tell when..LOL
He can be cryptic or Direct..He won't answer Why? what? or where? questions unless he's in a good mood. LOL , so you have to structure your questions properly which is not a bad thing.
James Martinez, Bob Nevritt and Dr Carolyn Dean credentials are impressive and they help grill him everyweek, They do sell some of there products, DVD's but the bulk of the info is free.........
You have to follow the show and get into the swing of the fun to know what I mean.......The thing is if they are just making it up , they would have been exposed as frauds by now and after two years. Apart from 'Mentor' who used to email every week and say Ion was making it all up , to which mentor was always proven wrong ,they seem legit...

[Operator]

Is Wormwood accociated with Elinen,Nabiru or Planet X ?...
Ion says' nope its Bitter or Better ..Bob says Bitter'? Ion does not respond....


Revelation 8:11
the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.

In dutch the name for Wormwood is Bitter ... :p !


Openbaring 8:11
De naam van de ster was "Bitter". (A) Een derde deel van het water werd bitter; en omdat het bitter was, stierven vele mensen ervan.

I must have missed something, I have no clue what the context is (a radio show or so ?) but the remarks are confusing.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Operator thats probably what he was referring to. Revelation 8:11 wormwood a third of the waters turned bitter....as he quotes the bible alot...
So that means the object coming in the 'Blue Dwarf' is deffinately something new according to Ion......intrigueing!!!!!


The Radio show is 'cash flow' hosted by James Martinez originally it was just a money/investment/consumor show ,
but a couple of years ago ....Ion showed up on the scene
and things got wonderfully surreal , yet plausibly Real!!!!!...LOL
I have given several full discriptions and links on several other threads of my interpretation
of them , but have been looking for others who have been listening to them , to compare
notes....but so far not making much headway...LOL..Cheers Steve..

If you are unfamilier with Bob & Ion....This is a link of them on the Ebban Ray show on the 30/6/2011......This is less chaotic than the cash flow shows which are unscripted and go all over the place......They don't go on many other shows , but Ebbans was one of the first When Ion showed up 2 years ago......
It starts about 10mins in and they behave themselves and give her a update of what they've
been talking about for the last year since they were on her show.......He explains accencion
briefly near the start about chromosone14 etc.......
http://www.fivebodied.com/archives/audio/bob/Radio_Alchymy/2011/Project_Next_-_June_30,_2011_-_Bob_Dobbs_&_iON_-_Hour_1.mp3

http://www.fivebodied.com/archives/audio/bob/Radio_Alchymy/2011/Project_Next_-_June_30,_2011_-_Bob_Dobbs_&_iON_-_Hour_2.mp3

[The Truth Is In There]

Description:
Nibiru raises at 02:17 (followed by the Sun) - Video captured by The CFH observatory that hosts a world-class, 3.6 meter optical/infrared telescope. The observatory is located atop the summit of Mauna Kea, a 4200 meter, dormant volcano located on the island of Hawaii.

The CFH Telescope became operational in 1979. The mission of CFHT is to provide for its user community a versatile and state-of-the-art astronomical observing facility which is well matched to the scientific goals of that community and which fully exploits the potential of the Mauna Kea site.

http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/en/gallery/cloudcams/index.php?opts=movies

Impressive video ... however there are some things that are fishy

What we're looking at is footage from a (web)cam ... it has nothing to do with

a world-class, 3.6 meter optical/infrared telescope
So why is it mentioned ? Just to impress people and make it credible ?

I checked where Hawaii exactly is on the global Google map ...
Now the sun is rising on the left and goes to the right ... it means the camera is facing south (south-east more likely).
But Hawaii is still in the tropics belt ... the sun should be north of the tropics.

The date in the lower right hand corner says Sunday may 29th ... someone reports in the comments checking
for possible planets in this direction ... but that should be done for the right date !

I have no software to check it but it can be checked with that JPL browser too ...
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=Elenin;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb

When I go back to may 29th then a whole bunch of planets will precede the sun
Mercury, Venus and Mars almost line up west of the sun and even Jupiter a little more
to the west is in line of sight

So any one with the right software to check it precisely for that date ?

i'm not an expert but that planet in the video seems too large or too near, i don't think it's any of the planets you mentioned and it's definitely not the moon.

[AlexanderLight]

i'm not an expert but that planet in the video seems too large or too near, i don't think it's any of the planets you mentioned and it's definitely not the moon.

Indeed, it's too large, too near and too bright to be the moon (or any other known planet in our solar system). The moon is reflecting light, while that 'thing' is emitting it's own light. ~Peace~

[Operator]

Indeed, it's too large, too near and too bright to be the moon (or any other known planet in our solar system). The moon is reflecting light, while that 'thing' is emitting it's own light. ~Peace~

I was wondering that too myself but I am not so certain about it ...

When the sun comes into view the light of the first object shrinks to the background until only a smaller planet becomes visible then no longer emitting light.
The problem here is that it's difficult to compare ... if one would take a picture of the moon at night and then overexpose it it would look like the sun with no
visible details on the surface.

The fact that the light and size of the first object fades away when the sun becomes visible could give us just that, comparison.

If this object is so good visible then where is it now ? Why did they have to take footage of may 29th specifically ?

Just looking for 'reason' to clarify what we see ...

[truthseekerdan]

"But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken." (Mark 13:24-25 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2013:24-25&version=ESV))


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5U1FTP-D1E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5U1FTP-D1E

[Operator]

I gathered some material to support my suggestion ...

8600

I took the JPL browser for Elenin and turned the view 90 degree angle from north to south.
(indicated by the red circle)
Earth rotates anti-clockwise in this view ... thus the planets right of the vertical line will rise first.

8601

This a magnified view when the glowing light is largely gone at 05:08:06 am
On the left there is either a body that is lit from bottom left (possibly the sun) or there are 2 bodies one eclipsing another one.
In latter case they should somehow be unequally lit by the sun ... (I have no idea here)
On the right there is another body a little bit under the solar system's ecliptic.

8602

Low and behold ... if I turn the browser to look aside from the ecliptic we see Jupiter further to the right under the ecliptic !

I think that observatory has a spectacular view ! Far better than most of us could wish for or are situated (high up in the mountains, no light pollution).
But it is probably still not as spectacular as suggested, showing something anomalous.

It would be far more fun not to dampen the excitement but we must keep our incoming data pure and clear.

[truthseekerdan]

ScienceDaily (July 4, 2010) (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100629112152.htm) — Astronomers have uncovered what appear to be 14 of the coldest stars known in our universe. These failed stars, called brown dwarfs, are so cold and faint that they'd be impossible to see with current visible-light telescopes. Spitzer's infrared vision was able to pick out their feeble glow, much as a firefighter uses infrared goggles to find hot spots buried underneath a dark forest floor.

The brown dwarfs join only a handful of similar objects previously discovered. The new objects are between the temperatures of about 450 Kelvin to 600 Kelvin (350 to 620 degrees Fahrenheit). As far as stars go, this is bitter cold -- as cold, in some cases, as planets around other stars.

These cool orbs have remained elusive for years, but will soon start coming out of the dark in droves. NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) mission, which is up scanning the entire sky now in infrared wavelengths, is expected to find hundreds of objects of a similarly chilly disposition, if not even colder. WISE is searching a volume of space 40 times larger than that sampled in the recent Spitzer study, which concentrated on a region in the constellation Boötes. The Spitzer mission is designed to look at targeted patches of sky in detail, while WISE is combing the whole sky.

"WISE is looking everywhere, so the coolest brown dwarfs are going to pop up all around us," said Peter Eisenhardt, the WISE project scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., and lead author of a recent paper in the Astronomical Journal on the Spitzer discoveries. "We might even find a cool brown dwarf that is closer to us than Proxima Centauri, the closest known star."

Read more: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100629112152.htm

[truthseekerdan]

ATLANTIS Space Shuttle Launch - DEEP IMPACT ELEnin Connection

All just a big coincidence, in the movie "Deep Impact" released in 1997 we have the name E.L.E. (Extinction Level Event) as the name of the comet, Morgan Freeman acting as the black president.

Fast forward to 2011 and the fact that we now have Obama as an acting black president and NASA admitting comet ELEnin is apparently within our solar system.

The question is how can the mainstream media continue to keep the general populace in the dark.

vytSDvpBgss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vytSDvpBgss

[Calz]

Trivia factoid ... Major Dames suggested via remote viewing in the "Kill Shot" movie that a shuttle would be forced down due to solar activity prior to the "big one".

Welp ... this is the last shuttle folks.

Either something is about to happen or else a whopper miss for the remote viewing community.

[Mandala]

Has anyone read Kerry's latest blog with input from Richard Hoagland?
Here is additional info not in the video conference.

More on Elenin - Things not Explained in the Video

It is important to note for those who listen to our nearly 5 hour Camelot Roundtable discussion on Elenin that Hoagland makes a very good case for the name Elenin being no accident.

First of all, according to Hoagland, the man who supposedly "discovered" the planet must be a paid informant. Secondly the name Elenin does not equal ELE but adds up to be equal to or a code for "Horus".

With that in mind you need to be aware of the vast amount of information out there that surrounds the Return of the Anunnaki. There is a whole contingent of Illuminati 'followers' out there who do rituals to "Marduk"... another name for Horus. The have been planning and waiting for the return of the Anunnaki and Horus the 'son' of Enki.

click here for some ramblings by Dan Winter on the subject

So, if Elenin is a piloted or remotely controlled craft in the guise of a planetoid (like Phobos?) then what does it contain?

Here, Hoagland would remind us that we should read "Rendezvous with Rama" by Arthur C. Clarke who, he agrees, probably was "in" on all the real secrets. Which I have done and what happens there is a ship enters the solar system, we land on it and investigate and it is uninhabited except by robotic like mechanical toys that 'maintain it'. It serves no obvious purpose and contains a sort of mechanistic world within. All in all it's like a self-contained machine. Where the 'makers' have long since abandoned it... Or perhaps sent it out in space to 'attract' investigation from local beings in whatever solar system it enters... and during that time, monitors and correlates or studies the temporary inhabitants (us in this case) then moves on... never to return again. But in theory could then send back data to some great mothership or civilization many star fields away. One day to be followed by the real 'makers' who would now know fully who and what they were dealing with before they ever arrived. Would robots be the progenitors of 'robots'? Or would they be humanoid? Or what?

At any rate, the point here is that it would seem the analogy to Rama, is a limited one. I don't see Elenin as being an exploratory probe. It seems to plodding and laborious... in making its way through our solar system. Hoagland seems to feel this craft to be a sort of disclosure event for the uninitiated... A theatrical maneuver designed to wow the inhabitants who up to now, for the most part, are not so blissfully believing they are "alone" and need to be brought up to speed that they are 'not alone' and have never been alone (as Bob Dean would say).

But we still must get back to Elenin = Horus because if that is the case then it could also contain a group of beings. Certain sources and I agree that traveling in such a craft would be rather an antiquated means of getting around when intersteller craft going beyond the speed of light would serve far better. To say nothing of the use of stargates.

But we still must get back to Elenin = Horus because if that is the case then it could also contain a group of beings. Certain sources and I agree that traveling in such a craft would be rather an antiquated means of getting around when intersteller craft going beyond the speed of light would serve far better. To say nothing of the use of stargates.

So is this the return of Marduk? And if so, is it a good thing or a bad thing? Bottom line.

And for that one has to also look at the fleet of ships that are accompanying it... this is info I have from an undisclosed source, that went black. But the word was, that it was a fleet of ships. So then the question is are they 'ours' or 'theirs' and if theirs then are they escorting in the comet-toid (my word for it)? Or are we escorting it in a little like when we scramble jets to flank some invader into our air space?

Again, one must ask is this a good thing or a bad thing? Hoagland would like to believe this is 'something marvelous' and a precursor to an age of disclosure in some form. He also seems to be even more entranced by the other comet/asteroid that he also has been told is 'controlled' called 2005 YU55. Coming from the direction of the sun due to cross closest to Earth on November 8th.

Note: there is ample evidence of large craft very close to the sun, (see the photos of John Walson) and by the way according to my source, those craft are actually bigger than YU55... and then if you go back to Rendezvous with Rama... after Rama left the vicinity of Earth it headed directly to the sun before reversing and moving away from it... the purpose being to 'power up' using the sun as an energy source to replenish itself. So perhaps the same is true of YU55 if it is indeed, controlled.

To get back to Elenin, if it is Horus and if let's say, the approach is expected and even anticipated for a very long time... then our secret space fleet will have been ready for the approach and could easily already been prepped for it. The recent Pope's address to the space station crew would seem to be out of context unless you consider that might have been a pep-talk for what was soon to be a 'greeting committee' of sorts to the 'new arrival' as one of my sources suggests. That address by the Pope has never happened before. Why now? What was he really doing?

Excuse me if I don't trust that this visitation by Elenin staged or not, is the harbinger of an 'age of enlightenment'. Because after all the secret space program is largely made up of former Nazis... or at the very least was run by them. And according to Hoagland they went off planet, back at the end of the war. They are the ones running the bases on the moon and mars. Their earthly contingent is under their orders. And there is a secret space program, apparently Earth based that is being prevented from leaving here (according to Hoagland but I am not sure this makes sense)... And they are not at all happy about it. I would say it's more likely they are leaving here... you can't have a space program that doesn't go into space (unless you count NASA ....lol (!))

If there is such a split within the secret space contingent, then what we are really talking about is a war for space between at least 2 Earthly groups... and then there is the war in space that involves some not so friendly off-world groups who want a piece of either this real estate or our DNA... and things get even more convoluted...

The questions remain and although we have the beginnings of some kind of space drama here things are still terribly hazy. Suffice to say we need more information... the understatement of the decade.

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Sott (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231434-Elenin-Nibiru-Planet-X-Time-for-a-Sanity-Check) has an interesting take on things. I will give you no spoilers. ;)

[Operator]

How can it be that such alleged advanced beings are traveling in such a relative slow way ?

The only 2 reasons why you would need the element of 'surprise' are either because you are outnumbered or
you are not that powerful to overwhelm.

Another 'hyper dimensional' event ?

[truthseekerdan]

How can it be that such alleged advanced beings are traveling in such a relative slow way ?

Perhaps they're using 'old fashion equipment' millions of years old... ;)

[dddanieljjjamesss]

ATLANTIS Space Shuttle Launch - DEEP IMPACT ELEnin Connection

All just a big coincidence, in the movie "Deep Impact" released in 1997 we have the name E.L.E. (Extinction Level Event) as the name of the comet, Morgan Freeman acting as the black president.

Fast forward to 2011 and the fact that we now have Obama as an acting black president and NASA admitting comet ELEnin is apparently within our solar system.

The question is how can the mainstream media continue to keep the general populace in the dark.

vytSDvpBgss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vytSDvpBgss


This just proves to me that Elenin is nothing to worry about. It's all part of THEIR game, and I'M NOT PLAYING ANYMORE.

[Rocky_Shorz]

so if this comet appears every 12000 years, what does it circle around 6000 years from us at the speed it is traveling?

[truthseekerdan]

This just proves to me that Elenin is nothing to worry about. It's all part of THEIR game, and I'M NOT PLAYING ANYMORE.

No problem my friend...

http://rlv.zcache.com/under_control_tshirt-p235353905888607294q6vb_400.jpg

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so if this comet appears every 12000 years, what does it circle around 6000 years from us at the speed it is traveling?

An orbit... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

is it possible there is a secondary star and it travels back and forth between our Galaxy and its?

[Mandala]

TSD, the video, Deep Impact, 1998, brought chills to me. Could there really be that much of a coincidence? Space shuttle, ELE, comet? Or was this leaked as a movie thriller to further instill this as fiction and no possibility of reality? This movie was made in 1998 with the following tagline: Unless a comet can be destroyed before colliding with Earth, only those allowed into shelters will survive. Which people will survive?

I have also read that Leo Elenin can't be located. Is this true? Some claim recent pics of the man are not the original person, and believe the original guy was a set-up.

I found it interesting that the guy who discovered Elenin has the first name Leo, which happens to be the constellation of the area of concern.

I also posted Kerry's recent blog in which there is belief the comet may be a large navigable ship with a fleet of ships tagging along.

I have heard TPTB enjoy putting the truth in front of us as an "inside joke" because they feel the public is too dense to "get it".

[truthseekerdan]

is it possible there is a secondary star and it travels back and forth between our Galaxy and its?

Sun's binary a Brown Dwarf in our solar system. More info here:http://viewzone2.com/browndwarfx.html

[truthseekerdan]

"But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken." (Mark 13:24-25 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2013:24-25&version=ESV))


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5U1FTP-D1E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5U1FTP-D1E


TruthseekerDan, that video brought chills to me. Could there really be that much of a coincidence? Space shuttle, ELE, comet? Or was this leaked as a movie thriller to further instill this as fiction and no possibility of reality? This movie was made in 1998 with the following tagline: Unless a comet can be destroyed before colliding with Earth, only those allowed into shelters will survive. Which people will survive?

I have also read that Leo Elenin can't be located. Is this true? Some claim recent pics of the man are not the original person, and believe the original guy was a set-up.

I found it interesting that the guy who discovered Elenin has the first name Leo, which happens to be the constellation of the area of concern.

I also posted Kerry's recent blog in which there is belief the comet may be a large navigable ship with a fleet of ships tagging along.

I have heard TPTB enjoy putting the truth in front of us as an "inside joke" because they feel the public is too dense to "get it".

Hopi's prophecies and scriptures tell us about this event(s) will happen. So be ready for it like they say, "we live in exciting times".

Much Love

[Carmody]

late 1998 (early 1999) was the beginning of the 12 year long 8th wave. Interestingly enough.

One should always be careful, as that, as thoughts go...as it is short term thought in a world that has evidence of secret societies having rather long plans and views. Ie, a 50 year 'long in the tooth' planting of data points that might be newly discovered, is not even remotely out of the question.

[Mandala]

TSD, had to do a bit of editing, as I was multi-tasking way too much. I meant to select your video about Deep Impact even though I found the Inuit video very interesting. The indigenous people are very keen on nature, earth and stars. I tend to put a lot of faith in their acknowledgments.

[Rocky_Shorz]

we only have a few more weeks until they swing Stereo around to watch its approach...

they caught it on Stereo A in June over on the other thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23738-Elenin-Researchers-Explain-Coming-Anomaly&p=259482&viewfull=1#post259482)...

[dddanieljjjamesss]

This just proves to me that Elenin is nothing to worry about. It's all part of THEIR game, and I'M NOT PLAYING ANYMORE.

No problem my friend...

http://rlv.zcache.com/under_control_tshirt-p235353905888607294q6vb_400.jpg

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so if this comet appears every 12000 years, what does it circle around 6000 years from us at the speed it is traveling?

An orbit... ;)

This is my wormhole brotha, I go where I want. Elenin gets my middle finger and I'm gonna keep on $%*&in' gardening anyway!

[truthseekerdan]

we only have a few more weeks until they swing Stereo around to watch its approach...

they caught it on Stereo A in June over on the other thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23738-Elenin-Researchers-Explain-Coming-Anomaly&p=259482&viewfull=1#post259482)...

RockyS, do you hope that they are going to release truthful info at that time? Doubt it, but who knows...

[Rocky_Shorz]

not knowing is more frightening than knowing in a technological world, so I expect them to show us everything they can...

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with Murdock and Rothschild in charge of "Sky news..."

why would they want to hide the truth... ;)

SKY NEWS ANNOUNCES ALIEN INVASION... has a great ring to it doesn't it?

[truthseekerdan]

This guy brings up some interesting points... However, I advise people not to live in fear whatever happens. After all, we are not this physical body. :)

Much Love to All


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znWyoG-Sq1g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znWyoG-Sq1g

[truthseekerdan]

More strange signs in the heavens...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ecqr2IK9GE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ecqr2IK9GE

[Mandala]

ATLANTIS Space Shuttle Launch - DEEP IMPACT ELEnin Connection

All just a big coincidence, in the movie "Deep Impact" released in 1997 we have the name E.L.E. (Extinction Level Event) as the name of the comet, Morgan Freeman acting as the black president.

Fast forward to 2011 and the fact that we now have Obama as an acting black president and NASA admitting comet ELEnin is apparently within our solar system.

The question is how can the mainstream media continue to keep the general populace in the dark.

vytSDvpBgss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vytSDvpBgss

Need a little help here. Does anyone remember the name of the guy, decades ago I believe, who mentions that our last shuttle launched, would need to return to earth before its mission was complete, due to an astronomical problem?

[greybeard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Wcgms4BQ8&feature=player_embedded#at=25

[AlexanderLight]

Nibiru/ELEnin Insider Tells the Truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in34N4gq19o

I was looking for something that correlates the present accounts with the historical accounts of our ancestors. This video does a pretty good job.
Nibiru/Planet X = A solar system smaller than ours, composed of a reddish sun emanating iron oxide, orbited by a planet able to sustain life (Planet X) and multiple moons (7-8).

~Love to all~

[golden lady]

Hi Mandala
The only thread I can think of is "the shuttle and killshot thread"
(Sorry not very good at providing links)
But hope this helps

[The Truth Is In There]

planet x newsletter #17 contains useful information. apparently the writer and a lot of others who follow the zeta's predictions favor april 2012 as date for the pole shift.

source: http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/planet-x-newsletter-issue-17

For the new reader section I have written a "Planet X in a nutshell" overview to combine as many elements as possible into a single missive.
I touch on the Oudenbosch crop circle telling of the passage of Planet X through our solar system.
We have another cosmic ray story, this time the Zetas reveal a new source of cosmic rays that are innocently noticed and reported by scientists in the original story on the net.
The Queen is showing her true color: like a rat fleeing a sinking ship. The pole-shift: her intentions indicate a great loss of an opportunity to assist her subjects in the best way possible. There is so much she could be doing for England. This story involves another short on the July 2010 breach of Earth's Magnetosphere.
I love "Skinny Bob", we all love "Skinny Bob". This surprises U.S. cover-up machine in a update about the aftereffects of the public's introduction to our favorite ET.
Remember the New York manhole fires? Now we have Indianapolis experiencing the same thing. Indianapolis sits right-on the New Madrid fault line.
The huge electrical storm in Forth Worth, Texas was captured by a video 5 miles away revealing amazing earthquake lights as confirmed by the Zetas. I draw a distinction between transformer flashes and earthquake lights, plus I made up a graphic to show what the Zetas explain as the cause: the unimaginable tectonic stress on the subterranean rock buttresses of the opposing sides of compressing continental fault-lines.
The Dogman of Michigan! The Zetas reveal the truth about another species of being on our green Earth. I have reported close-up images of this creature plus a controversial home movie by a young man who caught the creature on Kodac film in the 1970ies - Talk about your "Super 8".
I have a great little examination of Plasmoids being viewed in the stratosphere by the ancients - sights that we will all see during the hours up to pole-shift: displays of the crazy power of upper atmosphere electrical interchanges between Planet X and Earth.
Earth wobble, record weather and tornadoes. The Zetas touched on why, in this story I attempt to glue them together so the novice can understand the relationship between Planet X and the increase in outbreaks of tornadoes in unusual areas of the world.
A short on President Obama's "PLAN" using "smart phones" for disaster warning for the general public.
Another short on the Zetas explanation on good directions to move in the after-time for Eurasians.
The crop circle Hackpen is explained based on the Zetas accurate diagnosis of magnetic trimesters and the relative strength of the influence of the Sun. This is a head-ups on those who want to keep their eye on the ball regarding a best guess on pole-shift timing.
Zeta-confirmed Images of Planet X and it's moons in "Planet X?"
In "The Puppet Master's Plan" I cover what the Zetas reveal about his intentions to put Nancy Lieder and the ZetaTalk into the news at some point.
China is making a land-grab of the U.S.! Unbelievable but true, laid-out in this story.
Finally another heads-up for Northern Europeans as the Zetas reveal a better way to watch for the tell-tail signs for when New Madrid is about to be triggered.

[Operator]

Need a little help here. Does anyone remember the name of the guy, decades ago I believe, who mentions that our last shuttle launched, would need to return to earth before its mission was complete, due to an astronomical problem?

His name is Ed Dames. He didn't say it would be the last shuttle to be precise. It only happens to be that way IF something is indeed to transpire
with this very last one. If nothing happens he just made a wrong prediction which is even very well possible.

His prediction was titled "The kill shot" (if you want to google it) and is indeed a challeging one ...

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Has anyone read or seen the TV rendition of 'The Color of Magic?'

'The star is Life, not Death!'

Ahhhh who are you and what are you doing inside my head!?

heh

[Mandala]

Need a little help here. Does anyone remember the name of the guy, decades ago I believe, who mentions that our last shuttle launched, would need to return to earth before its mission was complete, due to an astronomical problem?

His name is Ed Dames. He didn't say it would be the last shuttle to be precise. It only happens to be that way IF something is indeed to transpire
with this very last one. If nothing happens he just made a wrong prediction which is even very well possible.

His prediction was titled "The kill shot" (if you want to google it) and is indeed a challeging one ...

Thank you Operator, I appreciate your help and clarification. Thanks also, Golden Lady, your assistance is appreciated. Mandala

[The Truth Is In There]

more on deep impact and the interesting numerology "coincidences" in the movie and with comet elenin.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjRyxvWVTjo&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iavC2LqFiMk&feature=relmfu

many people don't seem to like these two clips but i fail to see the reason why since actually it's a very good presentation. he may be a bit too focused on "god" in all this but he hits the head right on the nail when he talks about the numbers.

[steveofengland]

In the uk towards the end of last month there was a freak tsunami which was reported to be down to an earthquake but the BGS have finished their study stating it was not an earthquake that caused this. the strange part about it is peoples hair stood on end before the event

http://www.bgs.ac.uk/research/highlights/2011/tsunamiSWEngland2011.html?src=sfb

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

steveofengland
Hi

Cheers for the link. That's the first I have heard of it.

[truthseekerdan]

My teenage daughter, shared her dream with me about 2 months ago. I did not share it here until now. She saw an object in the sky (she called it another moon) slightly larger than the moon, but having a reddish color, and that she could see some large craters on it. Unfortunately (fortunately for her) she could not remember any more details... I did found this video though, to share with all of you here...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viwq2zJ4qxk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viwq2zJ4qxk

Much Unity and Love

[Spartacus]

Can anyone show me one shred of evidence to suggest that Elenin is a dwarf star and not a low mass comet made of ice.

[ktlight]

COPYRIGHT 2011 HOLLOW EARTH PRODUCTIONS

GUYS HERE ALL ALL THE LATEST VIDEOS that I HAVE TAKEN OVER THE LAST FOUR DAYS PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE FOOTAGE..YOU CAN SEE THIS THING CHANGES IT'S POSITION EVERY SINGLE DAY!!

BTW THE BLUE ONE IS THE UNIDENTIFIED PLANET AND THE WHITE ONE IS THE MOON..CHECK OUT THE PICTURES IN THIS ALBUM YOU WILL SEE THE CLOUDS GO RIGHT OVER IT!! THIS IS NOT LENSE FLARE!! IMPOSSIBLE!!

NEWEST FOOTAGE! PLANET X aka NIBIRU Behind the Clouds - ELENIN flickering in the SKY? Day Three Footage 7-13-11


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY2Zfpjs5e8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY2Zfpjs5e8&feature=player_embedded#at=126

[Malachi]

I don't know what is is the white object, either the Sun (with a strong filter) or the Moon, but I can assure you, that the blue one is the Moon.

Why does anyone spend hours to make these kind of videos and upload to Youtube - thats a bigger mistery to me, that Nibiru or planet X or anything else in the world.

[Teakai]

I don't know what is is the white object, either the Sun (with a strong filter) or the Moon, but I can assure you, that the blue one is the Moon.

Why does anyone spend hours to make these kind of videos and upload to Youtube - thats a bigger mistery to me, that Nibiru or planet X or anything else in the world .

Why's that, Malachi?

And how can you say the blue is definitely the moon and then question if the top one is the moon or the sun?
:confused:

[Malachi]

to make a video, edit and upoad - thats not 2 minutes. all this effort just to make fool of some people. this one is clearly a fake, look for yourself. I do not think, that the Youtube uploader didn't know that he shoot the moon. so that's it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Full_Moon_Luc_Viatour.jpg

stop at 00:23. compare. the blue planet is clearly the Moon.

[Teakai]

to make a video, edit and upoad - thats not 2 minutes. this one is clearly a fake, look for yourself.



compare. the blue planet is clearly the Moon.

If it's a fake I do agree with you. It takes a certain type of crazy to bother going to that much effort - and for what?

Edit to add: I couldn't see that much detail in the blue object to be able to compare it to the moon picture you posted above.

But then - if it is the moon - then it still leaves the other object unaccounted for.

[Malachi]

maybe now you can see the picture, I changed my prev. post.

sry, I'm new here. :)

[The Truth Is In There]

please use your common sense. all videos or pics where planet x looks as large or almost as large as the moon or sun are definitely fakes, or else it would be obvious to billions of people that it's there and it would of course already have devastating effects on earth.

[Malachi]

You're right, we don't know what is the white object. I think it's doesn't matter anyway, if I'm right - I think I am - and the blue one is the Moon, the video is a lie and that's all.

I'm into ufology and love the real good UFO videos, but some of them are real garbage and it makes me sad. The ppl who upload fake videos to youtube are the biggest enemies of the UFO and new age community. Sometimes I see real funny ones here, but again, I am new here and I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings with harsh posts. The Avalonians are good ppl, and I'm really grateful to them, they do a good job with these posts. It's not their fault if the video is fake.

[Malachi]

yes, if someone can't see the similarities between the blue object and the Moon, ok. but just to think, if a planet as big than this blue one, can be seen with a simple binocular, than is must be really-really close - the whole world could see it. not to mention the gravitational pull.

[Teakai]

please use your common sense. all videos or pics where planet x looks as large or almost as large as the moon or sun are definitely fakes, or else it would be obvious to billions of people that it's there and it would of course already have devastating effects on earth.

Hi, The truth is out there, we only see the moon due to the light from the sun reflecting off it - otherwise it has no light and is not visible to the human eye. If Niburu (or whatever) is a dwarf star and is sucking in light rather than reflecting it, then we won't see it without the right equipment.

[Teakai]

yes, if someone can't see the similarities between the blue object and the Moon, ok. but just to think, if a planet as big than this blue one, can be seen with a simpe binocular, than is must be really-really close - the whole world could see it. not to mention the gravitational pull.

I actually haven't a clue if it's a hoax or not - I'm just wondering at why it's definitely seen as being a hoax, is all. The reasons given so far aren't feasible.

The guy may just be wrongly assuming it's Niburu (or whatever) and is filming something completely different. If that's the case, is it still a hoax or just a case of mistaken identity?
:)

[The Truth Is In There]

Can anyone show me one shred of evidence to suggest that Elenin is a dwarf star and not a low mass comet made of ice.

sure, probably around september this year ;)

[Malachi]

yes, if someone can't see the similarities between the blue object and the Moon, ok. but just to think, if a planet as big than this blue one, can be seen with a simpe binocular, than is must be really-really close - the whole world could see it. not to mention the gravitational pull.

I actually haven't a clue if it's a hoax or not - I'm just wondering at why it's definitely seen as being a hoax, is all. The reasons given so far aren't feasible.

The guy may just be wrongly assuming it's Niburu (or whatever) and is filming something completely different. If that's the case, is it still a hoax or just a case of mistaken identity?
:)

:)

It's a grainy youtube vid and I can tell, that the blue one is the Moon. I think the guy with the camera knew, that he shoots the Moon - but maybe he lived in a room with no windows and this was his first day in the outside world. I don't know.

Anyway, I think it is too obvious. Maybe a reflection on a glass surface, really, I do not know how he made it. But if you look at the patterns, the dark and light areas on the blue planet - they are look like the Moon's craters and basins.

[ghostrider]

this object is so large it's pulling on our north pole and pushing against the south, and doing the same thing to the moon. that's right the earth and the moon's axis have tilted south. the pole shift is happening now.

[Etherios]

this object is so large it's pulling on our north pole and pushing against the south, and doing the same thing to the moon. that's right the earth and the moon's axis have tilted south. the pole shift is happening now.

Magnetic pole shift...

[Krullenjongen]

please use your common sense. all videos or pics where planet x looks as large or almost as large as the moon or sun are definitely fakes, or else it would be obvious to billions of people that it's there and it would of course already have devastating effects on earth.

Hi, The truth is out there, we only see the moon due to the light from the sun reflecting off it - otherwise it has no light and is not visual to the human eye. If Niburu (or whatever) is a dwarf star and is sucking in light rather than reflecting it, then we won't see it without the right equipment.

Only a black dwarf star does not emit any visible light.
So if it is any other dwarf star it should emit light and we should be able to see it.

If this blue thing is real than there should be a lot of photo and video material circling around the internet because every amateur astrologer would be able to see and photograph it and i hardly see anything on the net.

[Hervé]

Lens flares!

Why?

Using coated optics at a bright object, the latter saturates the sensor. However, the reflections on the coated optics/lenses are less saturated and therefore more details of the bright object can be discerned. Watch your refelection on a glass door or double pane window on a bright sunny day to get the idea.

In conclusion the video is real, the artifacts are real, just the premise of not knowing what's on the picture and its interpretation are questionable.

The yellow object is the same bright object reflected from a different type of coating.

[Spartacus]

this object is so large it's pulling on our north pole and pushing against the south, and doing the same thing to the moon. that's right the earth and the moon's axis have tilted south. the pole shift is happening now.

What evidence do you have to support your view that this object is 'so large'? What is the source of your information regarding its mass?

The Earth has experienced many pole shifts throughout history. As far as I'm aware, this has occurred without the assistance of a large celestial body.

Elenin is real - no doubt about that. But I'm struggling to find any real evidence that this object is anything more than a rather unremarkable comet.

I guess we'll learn more about it soon. So far my money's on a quiet, uneventful passage of Elenin through our solar system.

[Dick]

Why isn't elenin on the list of comets on the spaceweather website ?
They are showing all kind of comets, large and small, and very close and far away from earth, but no sign of elenin on their list.
Watch it on www.spaceweather.com

Dick.

[steveofengland]

Why isn't elenin on the list of comets on the spaceweather website ?
They are showing all kind of comets, large and small, and very close and far away from earth, but no sign of elenin on their list.
Watch it on www.spaceweather.com

Dick.
I also wondered why its not on there, I suppose another reason for a magnetic pole shift could be down to the high activity of the sun right now, that plus the fact that the magnetosphere has is showing weakness. Maybe Elenin is just coincidently around when this is happening? But there is the magic coincidence word again. Its dificult to say about alignment caused earthquakes as there at least five 4.5 / 5.5 quakes everyday and rising.
There are so many theories banding about right now its crazy. One thing is obvious, The scientific community are constantly removing sources for us to see this comet with their equipment (WISE) And then there is the shuttle with will be coming back down to earth for the last time (Is it not going to be possible to get it up again?)
There is too much circumstantial eveidence that something huge is round the corner.

[AlexanderLight]

Nibiru Solar System - January 1st, 2011 - Hawaii:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EplHPrGzCg&feature=relmfu

Nibiru Solar System - May 10, 2011 - Hawaii:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxbC_5ncKBU&feature=channel_video_title

[Hervé]

Need a little help here. Does anyone remember the name of the guy, decades ago I believe, who mentions that our last shuttle launched, would need to return to earth before its mission was complete, due to an astronomical problem?

His name is Ed Dames. He didn't say it would be the last shuttle to be precise. It only happens to be that way IF something is indeed to transpire
with this very last one. If nothing happens he just made a wrong prediction which is even very well possible.

His prediction was titled "The kill shot" (if you want to google it) and is indeed a challeging one ...

If it doesn't happen with this last shuttle, it's only a 1/2 fail of the prediction as, a few day prior to the launch, ISS was evacuated by its occupants to seek refuge in the Soyouz capsules due to incoming debris threatening to impact the station.

Anyway, that's what NASA said. Maybe be it was only an excercise to make Ed Dames right?

[Operator]

Nibiru Solar System - January 1st, 2011 - Hawaii:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EplHPrGzCg&feature=relmfu

Nibiru Solar System - May 10, 2011 - Hawaii:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxbC_5ncKBU&feature=channel_video_title

This is the same situation as I explained in this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-&p=259788&viewfull=1#post259788

When I checked with that JPL browser this configuration exists for a while (at least during may).
The involved planets are all moving in the same direction, only the orbit speeds differ.

I am afraid it's only more of the same (but still a spectacular view of course).

[steveofengland]

Those vids are quite shocking. We were camping last weekend and our youngest daughter woke up needing the toilet, the time was 03.20 i remember looking. It was a mad dash to get to the toilet block, but on the way back i was a little slower, i remember thinking that it was strangly bright with an almost blue sky, and when i looked up there was one star in the blue, it looked huge compared to the others in the clear sky. My wife had emerged from the tent and was heading to the toilet block having been woken by our daughter Skye.
On her return i said "did you see that" she replied "that massive star" Now she is definately not open to any theories regarding impending doom stories and is still very much asleep in this life. But it made me smile that she, an unbeliever noticed something strange in the sky. I figure it really had to be something big for her to notice it.
Im slowly getting her used to the notion that for something to be real and happening doesnt have to come from the mainstream media. and that sometimes TPTB dont tell her whats really going on. To her camping is a fun passtime, for me its a field trip on how we might cope if forced to leave the house at short notice. LAst weekend was our first time and we were not well equipped. This weekend we have much more kit! I will be setting my alarm early to see if i cian see this thing again and watch the sunrise. The only thing thats bothering me is im sure its not visible in the northern hemisphere so maybe i was looking at one of the other planets?

[steveofengland]

Or maybe i was looking at this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1349383/Betelgeuse-second-sun-Earth-supernova-turns-night-day.html
But then is this what its believed to be or is this the smoke and mirrors scenario to put peoples minds at rest as something looms upon us?

[Hervé]

For a visual of a binary star system operation and what happens to their respective Oort clouds and Kuiper belts, check this page:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml

It clearly shows that at one point in the cycle, flying debris are ejected in all directions. That makes for a cyclical happening of meteorites and asteroids showers our Earth and the other planets of this solar system haven't always been able to duck; like when the Dinosaurs folded.

[Hervé]

Another remote viewing investigation on what created the asteroid belt was undertaken by Courtney brown.

Here is the video:

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[Teakai]

Only a black dwarf star does not emit any visible light.
So if it is any other dwarf star it should emit light and we should be able to see it.

If this blue thing is real than there should be a lot of photo and video material circling around the internet because every amateur astrologer would be able to see and photograph it and i hardly see anything on the net.

Hi Krullenjongen, from what I've looked up a brown dwarf emits very little light if any. Possibly detected only using infra red lens (if I recall that part correctly - think it's something to do with radiation, but didn't go into too much detail)
Out beyond our atmosphere is dark as - I stood and looked at 3 quarters of the moon in broad daylight a couple of days ago, marvelling that I could see that, yet not the rest which was there - only I was blind to it as the sun's light wasn't being reflected off it.

So far I think we are only assuming it's a brown dwarf, rather than a comet - which doesn't emit light, or another planet, which doesn't emit light - does anybody even really know what it is and what natural laws may apply to its behaviour?

[The One]

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GUYS HERE ALL ALL THE LATEST VIDEOS that I HAVE TAKEN OVER THE LAST FOUR DAYS PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE FOOTAGE..YOU CAN SEE THIS THING CHANGES IT'S POSITION EVERY SINGLE DAY!!

BTW THE BLUE ONE IS THE UNIDENTIFIED PLANET AND THE WHITE ONE IS THE MOON..CHECK OUT THE PICTURES IN THIS ALBUM YOU WILL SEE THE CLOUDS GO RIGHT OVER IT!! THIS IS NOT LENSE FLARE!! IMPOSSIBLE!!

NEWEST FOOTAGE! PLANET X aka NIBIRU Behind the Clouds - ELENIN flickering in the SKY? Day Three Footage 7-13-11

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07-12-2011 Planet X : Blue Planet behind Moon run through REAL TIME Video Analysis : IT IS NIBIRU

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NEW FOOTAGE!! PLANET X aka NIBIRU and UFO hide behind the MOON in St Paul, MN on 7/10/2011 and 7/11/2011

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7-09-2011 Another Planet Visible behind the MOON! Is it Nibiru AKA Planet X? You Decide? REALTIME

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ANTARCTICA FOOTAGE http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieT.html

[Thefrenzy1978]

The Antarctica footage is the moon , the other vids are just reflection from the moon or sun in the camara

[Thefrenzy1978]

Common sense is key to videos like this keep an open mind but not so open your brain falls out , i have an infra red monocular and ive looked long and hard for this dwarf star still have not found it but have not give up yet i thought i had found it in feb this year turned out to be a galaxy :(

[TheSwede]

Yea, thats definitely not Niburu. Its a lens flare produced by bouncing light inside the camera optics. For example Nikon, they have a special nano-coating in their premium optics that will absorb light just so the image or footage wont get corrupted by lens flares.

[ghostrider]

those men are seeing something they've never seen before, it has their complete attention.

[ghostrider]

forgive my spelling, but I heard somewhere about a blue kachina, and a red kachina..hopi phophecy maybe.

[The Truth Is In There]

well, check out this.

go to around 2:00 and 12:30 if you don't want to watch everything.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjClzik1rO8

[bennycog]

well, check out this.

go to around 2:00 and 12:30 if you don't want to watch everything.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjClzik1rO8

not feeling that one truthy :) there isno way anyone should buy into that vid...
might have to check up where we could view the live feeds from though..

[Malachi]

interesting, but I looked up some data about this station - here"s what I found, decide for yourself.

here's a little docu about the construction. you can see, that this entire station built from large containers with a thick outer wall. no Sun, Moon or brown dwarf can shine thru. LINK TO THE DOCU (http://www.realnature.tv/2010/03/neumayer-station-iii-english-version/)

now, take a look at the webcam's pictures - WEBCAM LINK (http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieT.html)

important note: the pictures start at 2011-07-14 08:30 picture 52/144

at 08:30 it's dark, no Sun
pic 54/144 - some big reflector, spotlightg, look the shadows, this is not explosion
pic 64/144 to 92/144 - clear dim sunlight, this time of the year the Sun hardly gets up on the Antarctica, maybe for hours and provides little light
pic 93/144 to 108/144 - the Moon gets up, all the spots and round objects are lensflare, you can see, the blue one first in front of the buliding
pic 114/144 - the three guys maybe point to the bright full Moon (has to be beautiful) or the wind turbine, the same direction
pic 115/144 - some strange activity in the Moonlight really, this is a huge mistery to me :D
pic 116/144 to the end - the night goes on, full Moon, you can see the sphere's shadow on the snow

the only thing concesrns me, the bright dot from pic 98/144 to 141/144, it is stationary, has to be some beacon or something.

so that's all, again, maybe I am wrong and that's the Nibiru/Elenin, I don't want to prove anyone wrong these are just my thoughts about this case and the thing around Neumauer III station.

peace

PS: sorry for bad grammar, or any mistakes my english is, hm, could be better. :)

[Operator]

I watched the film 'Knowing' again yesterday evening. I missed the 'Gulf of Mexico' incident the first time but yep it was there, have seen it now ...

Then I noticed something else that I missed the first time, they mention an exact date all the time: October 19

So I plugged that date into the JPL browser ... just curious where it would be. Guess what ?
It's the exact date that Elenin is crossing earth's orbit. I know, it doesn't proof anything. Coincidence ?

[kathymarie]

I am more inclined to believe that Elenin, as a comet, doesn't exist and that there is something out there....whether Nibiru of something else, I don't know. I have been sensing for years that an event of world cataclysmic proportions is on the horizon. I'm not speaking to those who use English as a second language....but I do find myself doubting credibility for those who profess to have a degree of scientific knowledge yet misspell common words like "constellation" or "something" or even "astrolpatroit????"

[dddanieljjjamesss]

well, check out this.

go to around 2:00 and 12:30 if you don't want to watch everything.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjClzik1rO8

wow that guy is jumping at ANYTHING

he just sounds stupid...

'why isn't this like what we see in the movies? why aren't they wearing hoodies?'

'WHAT IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT' - it's the ****ing shadow of the camera housing... jesus christ get it TOGETHER, man!

[Eric J (Viking)]

NIBIRU shadows over Antarctica landmass & Personnel witness BROWN Dwarf...

What do you think guys?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naAgixqVNZk

viking

[Watching from Cyprus]

For sure they are hiding the truth .... these lying bastards and the medias...... :yell:

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Viking.... looks like the 'Blue Dwarf' Ion has been saying is coming in for a couple months....When loads of people have rang in and asked what is coming in ..Ellinen,Niburu,planet X,Brown Dwarf....

All he will say it is a 'Blue Dwarf' and we will see it very clearly when it arrives , like the finnally of 'THE Event'....When the Alien planet arrives thru the portal........He won't tell us more although we ask every week, very intrigueing, whether you believe him or not this footage today is a very wierd coincidene..!!!!!!!! spooky..LOL I'll keep trying to find out and let you know as I know...Cheers ..Steve

P.s. interesting film..Those suits kook strange,what hppened to Thermal Annaraks ? oops thats

us ! LOL.. They look more like ski/fi outfits ,,,odd times !

[Muzz]

Hi viking this is an interesting place (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?23842-Neumayer-Station-Arm-Patch). :)

[Malachi]

oh, my God, not again...the large dark shadow is the shadow of the station's comm tower. the three guys are looking up to the Moon or the station's wind turbine whitch is in the same direction. the large white planet is the Moon. the smaller blue one is the Moon's reflecion on the lens. the "explosions" are lamps. what else? everithing he says is false.

just look it up on the wiki or anywhere on the internet, 5 minutes and you will know everything about the Neumayer Station. sorry, but this guy is out of his mind.

[KosmicKat]

My first thought was to check GMaps to see if I could see the orientation of the station from a satellite view. Surprise, surprise! at the co-ordinates given, (70°39'S, 08°15'W) there is ... nothing but ice! I would love to know more.

[Malachi]

My first thought was to check GMaps to see if I could see the orientation of the station from a satellite view. Surprise, surprise! at the co-ordinates given, (70°39'S, 08°15'W) there is ... nothing but ice! I would love to know more.

follow THIS LINK (http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1271858) please.
if you have google earth, just click on the .kmz attachment, and open it. you will see the station just above the yellow marker.

[yiolas]

OK Ursuadams might be a bit weird, but the video is authentic . All anyone has to do is go to the Webcams at Neumayer-Station (http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/) and see for yourself. Of course the pictures and videos are open to interpretation and anyone can read into them what they want. The point is that Ursu's videos cannot be debunked based on authenticity only on interpretation.
By the way how can anyone deny that there are strange things going on in the sky at the South Pole ? Oh and another thing, when have you ever seen the moon casting a shadow ?!!

On another topic, it seems that the Space Shuttle Atlantis has been having 'computer problems'. Two of their 5 computers have crashed so far, they still have another 3 to operate on. I can't get Ed Dames out of mind though. Things have been going wrong with this last space flight since before it took off. Here's the link (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts135/news/STS-135-14.html)to NASA's space shuttle status report.

This guy has his own opinion though.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSkj7b8bSR4&feature=feedlik

[Malachi]

hello, yiolas!

moonlight shadow? you mean something like this? (http://www.fotothing.com/tony/photo/4393e64a0df6e32377a81ed6aa683cbf/) :)

the full Moon can be surprisingly bright, I grew up far from the big cities and sometimes we could read a book at night - just for fun, maybe one page - and we had not any more light than the light of the Moon.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

OK Ursuadams might be a bit weird, but the video is authentic . All anyone has to do is go to the Webcams at Neumayer-Station (http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/) and see for yourself. Of course the pictures and videos are open to interpretation and anyone can read into them what they want. The point is that Ursu's videos cannot be debunked based on authenticity only on interpretation.
By the way how can anyone deny that there are strange things going on in the sky at the South Pole ? Oh and another thing, when have you ever seen the moon casting a shadow ?!!

On another topic, it seems that the Space Shuttle Atlantis has been having 'computer problems'. Two of their 5 computers have crashed so far, they still have another 3 to operate on. I can't get Ed Dames out of mind though. Things have been going wrong with this last space flight since before it took off. Here's the link (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts135/news/STS-135-14.html)to NASA's space shuttle status report.

This guy has his own opinion though.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSkj7b8bSR4&feature=feedlik

the video is authentic and shows very little 'anomaly' that isn't man-made out of paranoia and lack of common sense. no offense to you, but that guy was REACHING FAR

so many of the 'light phenomena' could have just been flood lighting turned on at different points of the night for different purposes, and its just... its too much speculation posing as fact.. i'm sorry... but.... really.... no....

[yiolas]

hello, yiolas!

moonlight shadow? you mean something like this? (http://www.fotothing.com/tony/photo/4393e64a0df6e32377a81ed6aa683cbf/) :)

the full Moon can be surprisingly bright, I grew up far from the big cities and sometimes we could read a book at night - just for fun, maybe one page - and we had not any more light than the light of the Moon.

O.K. maybe I went a little overboard with the moon, but everything else stands.

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

All lens flares.
The alleged explosions look like the spots (lamps) coming on.
18-36/144. shadow created by the lights of one of the trucks bobbing around?
105/144. You can see the lens flare over the letter "a" in Station.
106/144. Its over the whole name Neumayer. You can follow it from there.

I'm more interested at those bodies coming out of the hole [sic]
94/144. Hatch down
95/144 Hatch up.
96/144 " ".
97/144. Two bodies seem to appear below the hatch.
98/144 Have gone. Hatch still open.
99/144. One body can be seen. Hatch closed

Note.
What evidence have the guys making the videos got that the bodies in the video are wearing radiation suites? Zoot Suites can be & are worn for any reason.

114/144. say cheese.
115/144. The supervisor? Isn't wearing a zoot suit.

[Mandala]

Thought you guys might find Kerry's video she posted of Allex Collier commenting about Nibiru being a ship. His comment is similar to the remarks made by Hoagland. This is part 13.
Time ~ 2:13, when he speaks of Planet X.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWao4aBl60w&feature=youtu.be

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Mandala.. Hi

You should read the article on Sott website regarding Kerry / Hoagland video.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231434-Elenin-Nibiru-Planet-X-Time-for-a-Sanity-Check

[Sphinxy]

After stepping through the photos on the Neumayer Station website, on 2011-07-15 GMC at 17:30:04 through 18:30:02, I saw the "orb" that looks like a planet in other photos actually in front of the station. My thought is that it's a reflection of some sort through the camera lens. I also realized that the ground shadow comes through on 2011-07-16 GMT at 02:40:03, 05:20:03, and 06:00:03 ... and I agree with others that it's a shadow of the dome protecting the camera.

[The Truth Is In There]

wow that guy is jumping at ANYTHING

he just sounds stupid...

'why isn't this like what we see in the movies? why aren't they wearing hoodies?'

'WHAT IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT' - it's the ****ing shadow of the camera housing... jesus christ get it TOGETHER, man!

yeah he's way out and actually his comments annoy me quite a bit (some of his other clips are even worse. explosion, anyone? haha) but i wanted other people's take on what can be seen. i don't ususally bother with double-checking and going into details such as 'could it possibly be the moon at this time or this must be a lense flare because...' so i let others come to conclusions based on proof they found and take the one that suits me best :o

[The Truth Is In There]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtO30Pr6QRs

[Mandala]

Mandala.. Hi

You should read the article on Sott website regarding Kerry / Hoagland video.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231434-Elenin-Nibiru-Planet-X-Time-for-a-Sanity-Check

Good article, albeit sobering facts. I believe Kerry has gotten wind of it also and is not too happy.

[Calz]

Not sure if this has been posted here or not (thread getting rather large). Forgive me if it has.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQqjM67sVow&NR=1

[Teakai]

Follow up video posted 16/7/11:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX03cPyUOJ8&feature=feedf
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX03cPyUOJ8&feature=feedf

[bitworm]

It's a shame such a decent camera is in the hands of this guy who has little if any understanding of how it works.

Or he's gotta be trolling youtube.

EDIT:

On the last video, he claims that the blue object 'is not a moon'.

Here's a grab from the 1st video in this thread, with a couple notable exceptions:

http://i.imgur.com/tqVTi.png

The gray item is based on the image of the moon posted earlier in this thread. The blue item above it is based on the image of the 'real' moon below it. I did a few simple things (resize, adjust hue,saturation,brightness,contrast,opacity,blur) to make it look like the blue object in the video. I never added anything, but I did remove the leftmost portion to match the blue object.

I don't think he added that in later, but I did it because the blue image I made looks essentially the same as the blue object in the video, which can't be anything other than a reflection of our moon.

[Teakai]

It's a shame such a decent camera is in the hands of this guy who has little if any understanding of how it works.

Or he's gotta be trolling youtube.

EDIT:

On the last video, he claims that the blue object 'is not a moon'.

Here's a grab from the 1st video in this thread, with a couple notable exceptions:

The gray item is based on the image of the moon posted earlier in this thread. The blue item above it is based on the image of the 'real' moon below it. I did a few simple things (resize, adjust hue,saturation,brightness,contrast,opacity,blur) to make it look like the blue object in the video. I never added anything, but I did remove the leftmost portion to match the blue object.

I don't think he added that in later, but I did it because the blue image I made looks essentially the same as the blue object in the video, which can't be anything other than a reflection of our moon.

Hi Bitworm - if it is a reflection of the real moon are you saying it's something that's not at all unusual when viewed through special binoculars?

And what is it being reflected off?

[Steve C]

I just dont believe everything Nasa comes out with or youtube.

[bitworm]

It's not the binoculars alone, it's the combination of the binoculars and the camera lens that's causing the effect. The blue object is a reflection from the original source, through the binoculars, to the lens of the camera and back onto the glass on the eyepiece side of the binoculars. The camera is recording the reflection that is on the eyepiece side of the binoculars.

I'm not sure why blue, but I'm guessing something about the coating on one or more of the lenses involved is filtering. It's notable that blue/violet is complementary to orange/yellow, and the actual colors of the objects appear to lie somewhere along those lines.

He moves the binoculars around and the reflection stays the same distance from the yellow light, and seems to make a big deal of it. But when the camera is fixed against the eyepiece of the binoculars while he's moving the binoculars, of course it is gonna keep the same distance. It is only when he holds the binoculars still and moves the camera does the blue object change its position relative to the yellow light.


EDIT:

I also just noticed by bringing down the brightness and up the contrast, the brightest object is not a perfect circle. I did a 'paint bucket fill' with a solid color at a very low threshold, then did the same with the original blue object. By flipping the blue one horizontally and rotating 45 deg CCW, the bright object and the blue object take roughly the same shape. The other orange light in the bottom of the frame is also roughly the same shape as the bright one.

http://i.imgur.com/xeRU0.png

[Teakai]

It's not the binoculars alone, it's the combination of the binoculars and the camera lens that's causing the effect. The blue object is a reflection from the original source, through the binoculars, to the lens of the camera and back onto the glass on the eyepiece side of the binoculars. The camera is recording the reflection that is on the eyepiece side of the binoculars.

That is really good reasoning, Bitworm. Gosh, that was like a revelation reading that. It never even occured to me.

So - that would make it a definite hoax then, right? Because he would have to know.

[bitworm]

Perhaps he is just easily entertained, much like this guy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQSNhk5ICTI

[Teakai]

Perhaps he is just easily entertained, much like this guy:


No. The double rainbow guy and I are easily entertained. (admittedly, I'm not quite as easy as the double rainbow guy) :)
But that blue moon guy went to heaps of effort to make those videos. I wonder what his motive is. Is he just a prankster or is he being paid. He seems to have quite a lot of money to throw about to please the requests of his viewers. Maybe he's being supplied with the equipment.

This could be something like with the crop circles - prove one a dud and then the rest are all duds by default.

[Malachi]

Perhaps he is just easily entertained, much like this guy:


No. The double rainbow guy and I are easily entertained. (admittedly, I'm not quite as easy as the double rainbow guy) :)
But that blue moon guy went to heaps of effort to make those videos. I wonder what his motive is. Is he just a prankster or is he being paid. He seems to have quite a lot of money to throw about to please the requests of his viewers. Maybe he's being supplied with the equipment.

This could be something like with the crop circles - prove one a dud and then the rest are all duds by default.

hello Teakai,

that's why I wrote earlier that these types are the biggest enemies of the UFO/new age community. we have to be very careful with the sources - I love Bill's work and I think he is a true and honest man - that's why I don't like to see the hoaxer's work here. this was one of my motive, when I registered, to debunk the EVIDENT hoaxes - but have to be careful with the language I use too. sometimes I can be rude, and thet's not good. :o

and by hoaxers I mean the Youtube uploders of course, not the Avalon members who make the posts here. this uploader did not let thru my comment under his liar video. and I was not even harsh. so that's it.

[Teakai]

hello Teakai,

that's why I wrote earlier that these types are the biggest enemies of the UFO/new age community. we have to be very careful with the sources - I love Bill's work and I think he is a true and honest man - that's why I don't like to see the hoaxer's work here. this was one of my motive, when I registered, to debunk the EVIDENT hoaxes - but have to be careful with the language I use too. sometimes I can be rude, and thet's not good. :o

and by hoaxers I mean the Youtube uploders of course, not the Avalon members who make the posts here. this uploader did not let thru my comment under his liar video. and I was not even harsh. so that's it.

I totally hear what you're saying, Malachi.

Only I have to be comfortable with my own understanding of why I'm thinking something to be a hoax.

Admittedly a lot of explanations do go over my head.
:)

[nearing]

First of all, according to Hoagland, the man who supposedly "discovered" the planet must be a paid informant. Secondly the name Elenin does not equal ELE but adds up to be equal to or a code for "Horus".



Horus = Ra = Sun. This leads me back to my theory that Elenin is indeed a comet that is orbiting our Sun's sister star, the Brown Dwarf. We can see the comet with regular telescopes but we need an infrared telescope to see the Dwarf Star the comet is orbiting. (this is why NASA uses ELENIN's orbit to track the DS!) The comet is NOT the problem for us. The DS is. And we won't see it with our naked eye until it is upon us. But we have already felt its tug on us during every alignment it's had with us and another body (earthquakes, and volcanoes ensue).

A ship guided by ETs? Nah. The simpler explanation is most likely the true one. It's our binary partner coming in again. And it's happened over and over int he past, that's why we have legends and the Mayan calendar starting over at that point in time, because, indeed, human civilization will be 'rebooted' by the effects of this large body coming in so close to us.

Let's stop with the wild theories and stick to the simpler, natural ones.

We live in a binary system, people.

[nearing]

Mandala.. Hi

You should read the article on Sott website regarding Kerry / Hoagland video.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231434-Elenin-Nibiru-Planet-X-Time-for-a-Sanity-Check

Thank you for the article. I agree with what the author says about Hoagland!

If you keep the scenario I spell out above in mind while reading this article, you can see that my theory holds. It seems that it's the only idea they didn't consider!

Dwarf Star (unseen unless using infrared telescope) causing the earth changes during alignments WITH a comet (seen with telescopes and far too small to cause any problems for us)named ELENIN orbiting it.

Come on, this is an easy one to figure out.

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Mandala.. Hi

You should read the article on Sott website regarding Kerry / Hoagland video.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231434-Elenin-Nibiru-Planet-X-Time-for-a-Sanity-Check

Good article, albeit sobering facts. I believe Kerry has gotten wind of it also and is not too happy.

Hi.
I guess she wouldn't be very happy, especially if there is any truth in what the article says.

[Operator]

Let's stop with the wild theories and stick to the simpler, natural ones.

We live in a binary system, people.

I have no problems accepting that (it's even most likely) ... but if it would make things simpler ?
How would that change the whole Elenin case ?

[nearing]

Let's stop with the wild theories and stick to the simpler, natural ones.

We live in a binary system, people.

I have no problems accepting that (it's even most likely) ... but if it would make things simpler ?
How would that change the whole Elenin case ?

Everyone keeps talking about a spaceship or that the comet isn't big enough to perturb the Earth. Yadda.

It's not being steered, the comet ISN'T big enough to perturb us. But the Dwarf Star (not Elenin) is. Simpicity.

In other words, this isn't about a comet named Elenin. It's about a massive Dwarf Star coming our way.

[The Truth Is In There]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUrjSPV5xt0

apparently the thing in the above video could also be venus but how about this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdmExXptoE0

[ktlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eba7zr4d0Zw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eba7zr4d0Zw&feature=player_embedded#at=46

[Odracir Oiravlac]

Just another lead indicating that someone knows something and that someone is only sharing his knowledge in the usual symbolic way. Perhaps someday we will be addressed directly about this very important subject, was is really out there and coming. Well some of us are not that blind anymore… or they come out with what they know or little by little we will go in.

[Tane Mahuta]

This how & why the invisible ones violate our free will. Universal law says that
"free will can not be violated." By hiding their stinking agenda out in the
open it validates them, "the invisble ones" to do to us whatever they want.

"You can do that to me!!!"(we humans)

"But oh, we can, because we informed you of our intentions."(ET). .

Wether we understand or not is of no consequence.

Good Post ktlight


TT

[toothpick]

Absolutely great video ktlight.
Another example of the ptb having a little giggle on us not so thilthy rich or rich but on your journey.
What are the Swiss trying to do putting the "Planet of the Crossng" on thier currency.
Maybe they just want to rub our faces with the fact that they have ancient knowledge and they kept it from us.
What gives these moral-less, pathetic, inbred, money lickers the right to hold anything over our heads.
Why would they put the "Planet of the Crossing" on such an obvious place, thier money?.
I think they are trying to hide in plain sight, it is thier usual MO.
Of course I,m afraid most people will just say, wow what a great picture on this new currencey.
ktlight, great find sister.

toothpick

[joedjemal]

Err, that's the orbit of Halley's comet I think. The more I see on this Nibiru thing the more I think it's disinformation. I have yet to see a single piece of hard evidence that elenin is anything more than a rather small comet that will have no effect on us whatsoever.

We have serious physical problems in the world that are leading to a collapse of our existing systems. I think all this stuff is designed to have people thinking about anything but the real culprit which is stupid, badly designed systems.

[YUPANQUI PUMA]

Thanks ktlight!!

I won't tell you, what eveybody in this forum know. However, what I want to tell you is that thanks to you and all the members of this fantastic forum, every single information that is posted, help me , and hopefully to everyone to get stronger and full of hope, despite all the heavy things that we already know.

Eveyday, I am more convinced that we are really strong and we can cope with the changes ahead of us.

Thank you, one more time!!

[truthseekerdan]

ATLANTIS Space Shuttle Launch - DEEP IMPACT ELEnin Connection

All just a big coincidence, in the movie "Deep Impact" released in 1997 we have the name E.L.E. (Extinction Level Event) as the name of the comet, Morgan Freeman acting as the black president.

Fast forward to 2011 and the fact that we now have Obama as an acting black president and NASA admitting comet ELEnin is apparently within our solar system.

The question is how can the mainstream media continue to keep the general populace in the dark.

vytSDvpBgss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vytSDvpBgss


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwOTp_ZYJeo

This is my last post on this forum...

[dddanieljjjamesss]

I've come to the conclusion that UrsuAdams is a complete disinfo agent.
Yet I truly believe he is a 33rd degree freemason.

Which has given me pause for thought.

I definitely see the game being played now. It's funny how this is the way I end up figuring it out...



What side are you on???
;)

[Hervé]

From another thread:



Sorry to burst a few bubbles but in the various clips there is a planet like shadow cast along the bottom of the screen that got a few excited, well look at this

http://images.spaceref.com/news/2009/ooNMIII_NW_ucieluch_p.jpg

You can quite clearly see what has caused it. Let’s not jump to conclusions here ...

Right on Kronuise!


:frusty::moil:

Now,
I agree there is something afoot but let’s try and establish the facts and not opinions as fact.... there's probably more going on in NYC, Washington DC, LA, London, Paris or Jerusalem than in that station... the crew there would sure enjoy the entertainment!

That said, if one goes to : http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieT.html and looks at the legend, it says:
View from the communications radom to the north side of the base. that's the white ball on legs in Kronuise's picture above.

Then, one would have to start at the right point in the video loop, i.e. when the date changes. That was around frame 30 something on the july 18 time-gap video.

Doing that, one could see -- if one were looking at the video instead of the pictures in one's mind -- that the progression of the shadows follow nicely from the one on the snow tracks. Regular, un-interrupted progression from a light source moving from right to left behind the camera while the stars circle in the sky.

Then, at day break, the dawn starts on the right side, stars still visible in the sky, elongated shadows of the poles holding the radom... let's see... what body could be opposite Sun and setting while the Sun is rising and able to cast shadows on a snow white ground while stars are visible in the sky?

... when was the Moon full lately?

When one starts the video at the beginning of the date/time of the previous day, one can also see that there is a switch of camera while the sun is still up; from color to B&W, within 10 minutes. Two slightly different angles close by to each other... two cameras in tandem under the same protective plexiglass bulb? That's my take.

What's disturbing is that such GooTube productions, by individuals who definitely seem to be under some kind of alter state of consciousness-- "Off their trolleys" as Bryn puts it, end up all over the place; starting many threads on many fora.

Sad state of discernment... very creative and entertaining though... but so is Jesse Ventura.



8929

[Humble Janitor]

I've seen that sighting debunked more than once.

Who really knows at this point?

Now's the time to get work on your bucket lists people.

Live as you have never lived before!!!!!

[Thefrenzy1978]

All this talk about dwarf stars i thought i would have a look for the closest dwarf star they tell us about so here goes.

Proxima Centauri (Latin proxima: meaning 'next to' or 'nearest to')[11] is a red dwarf star about 4.2 light-years (3.97×1013 km) distant in the constellation of Centaurus. It was discovered in 1915 by Robert Innes, the Director of the Union Observatory in South Africa, and is the nearest known star to the Sun,[10] although it is too faint to be seen with the naked eye. Its distance to the second- and third-nearest stars, which form the bright binary Alpha Centauri, is 0.237 ± 0.011 ly (15,000 ± 700 astronomical units [AU]).[12] Proxima Centauri may be part of a triple star system with Alpha Centauri A and B.

Because of the proximity of this star, its angular diameter can be measured directly, yielding a diameter one-seventh that of the Sun.[10] Proxima Centauri's mass is about an eighth of the Sun's, and its average density is about 40 times that of the Sun.[nb 2] Although it has a very low average luminosity, Proxima is a flare star that undergoes random dramatic increases in brightness because of magnetic activity.[13] The star's magnetic field is created by convection throughout the stellar body, and the resulting flare activity generates a total X-ray emission similar to that produced by the Sun.[14] The mixing of the fuel at Proxima Centauri's core through convection and the star's relatively low energy production rate suggest that it will be a main-sequence star for another four trillion years,[15] or nearly 300 times the current age of the universe.[16]

Searches for companions orbiting Proxima Centauri have been unsuccessful, ruling out the presence of brown dwarfs and supermassive planets.[17][18] Precision radial velocity surveys have also ruled out the presence of super-Earths within the star's habitable zone.[19][nb 3] The detection of smaller objects will require the use of new instruments, such as the proposed James Webb Space Telescope.[20] Since Proxima Centauri is a red dwarf and a flare star, whether a planet orbiting this star could support life is disputed.[21][22] Nevertheless, because of the star's proximity to Earth, it has been proposed as a destination for interstellar travel.

The TV documentary Alien Worlds hypothesized that a life-sustaining planet could exist in orbit around Proxima Centauri or other red dwarf stars. Such a planet would lie within the habitable zone of Proxima Centauri, about 0.023–0.054 AU from the star, and would have an orbital period of 3.6–14 days.[55] A planet orbiting within this zone will experience tidal locking to the star, so that Proxima Centauri moves little in the planet's sky, and most of the surface experiences either day or night perpetually. However, the presence of an atmosphere could serve to redistribute the energy from the star-lit side to the far side of the planet.[21]

Proxima Centauri's flare outbursts could erode the atmosphere of any planet in its habitable zone, but the documentary's scientists thought that this obstacle could be overcome (see continued theories). Gibor Basri of the University of California, Berkeley, even mentioned that "no one [has] found any showstoppers to habitability." For example, one concern was that the torrents of charged particles from the star's flares could strip the atmosphere off any nearby planet. However, if the planet had a strong magnetic field, the field would deflect the particles from the atmosphere; even the slow rotation of a tidally locked dwarf planet that spins once for every time it orbits its star would be enough to generate a magnetic field, as long as part of the planet's interior remained molten.[56]

Other scientists, especially proponents of the Rare Earth hypothesis, disagree that red dwarf stars can sustain life. The tide-locked rotation may result in a relatively weak planetary magnetic moment, leading to strong atmospheric erosion by coronal mass ejections from Proxima Centauri.

[Hervé]

And from yet another thread:



So... Lunisolar or binary... here is what the guys at Binary Research Institute (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/) have to say:



Layman's explanation: The precession of the equinox is the age-old phenomenon whereby an observer on Earth will notice that after one year (solar, tropical, equinoctial), he will not realign with the exact same point relative to the distant stars. From two to four thousand years ago observers on Earth noticed that the sun on the vernal equinox aligned with the constellation Aries, and in the last few thousand years with Pisces. Now as many know, we are at the "dawning of the age of Aquarius", meaning the sun on the vernal equinox is close to aligning with the constellation of Aquarius. This apparent backward motion of the stars (at the time of the equinox) is the precession of the equinox – whereby the equinoctial point slowly recedes through the 12 constellations of the Zodiac at the present rate of about 1 degree per 71.6 years. If this rate were constant it would take about 25,700 to 25,800 years to complete one full precession of the equinox. However, the annual rate is now speeding up, meaning the calculated length of one full cycle is getting shorter. If the observable of precession is due to an elliptical orbit of our sun around another star, as we believe, then this explains the reason for the variable rate of precession, and also tells us the full cycle will average something different than 25,700 years. All our calculations lead us to believe the period will average about 24,000 years as will be explained in a later section of this website.

[...]

The precession of the equinox is observed as the stars moving across the sky at the rate of about 50 arc seconds per year, relative to the equinox. Conventional theory holds that this phenomenon is due to the gravity of the sun and moon acting upon the oblate spheroid of the earth causing the axis to wobble (the lunisolar theory). The alternative explanation advanced by the Binary Research Institute is that most of the observable is due to solar system motion, causing a reorientation of the earth relative to the fixed stars as the solar system gradually curves through space (the binary theory or model). We find the binary model better explains acceleration of the precession rate, better predicts changes in the rate, answers a number of solar system problems and has none of the paradoxes or inconsistencies associated with lunisolar precession theory.

The Research (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/index.shtml) section includes a summary of our basic work investigating the mechanics of precession, describes some of the problems with current theory and gives data to show that solar system motion is a better explanation for the observable known as the precession of the equinox. If you move your mouse over the word “Research” you will find this work broken into five further sections entitled: Introduction, Evidence, Calculations, Finding It and Papers and Articles. We invite you to browse.

For a tutorial on our alternate view of precession please begin with the “Introduction” and keep clicking the “Next” button and it will carry you through each section of the presentation.

If you have any comments or questions about this website or any of our work please feel free to email me at:

walter@binaryresearchinstitute.org


Warm Regards,
Walter Cruttenden


Check this page for an animation on how this works (click on "Forward" to step through):

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/curvature.shtml

Look at this other animation to get a visual of how each partner of the binary system speed up or slow down in their orbit around the system's center of gravity:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml

... and here to get the idea of how that translates for the observation of distant stars/constellations:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/simplicity.shtml

As it is known that the Oort cloud has its outside edge nicely "polished" (i.e. the "Sheer Edge"), here is their animation on how that could occur with a binary system:

http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml

In short, our solar system (binary stars plus their respective planets) are dancing around the galactic center describing "travelling ovals."

The "travelling ovals" around the galaxy also explains the bobbing of our solar system above and below the galactic plane.

[The Truth Is In There]

richard hoagland on coast to coast about elenin and a lot more


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwk5I3aofCA

[kathymarie]

Whether Nibiru or Elenin or ?????...I think something is headed our way.

[nearing]

This is my last post on this forum...

You are leaving Avalon, dan? Gosh, I sure hope not!

[Carolin]

Thanks 'The Truth Is There' for sharing, I just finished listening to Mr Hoagland on Coast to Coast. Somebody please help me understand because I must be too dense.

Does Elenin has a 13,000 year cycle or no cycle at all?

Elenin is a time capsule.................really??????

JPL is accurate for September 11 but alignment dates and major earthquakes should be disregarded?

So many things he said were contradictory that he'll claim to be right regardless of the outcome. I could go on and on but I've already lost two hours of my life that I'll never get back by listening to Mr Hoagland baffle me with :bs:

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

I havn't noticed any mention of the Black Knight Satellite. It would be interesting to see if there is a link.

[BobH]

Looks like someone has put this all together. See http://endgametime.wordpress.com/comet-elenin-let-their-be-light/

See also: http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/07/deep-impact-turning-into-reality-comet.html

[Trail]

http://strictlyhonest.com/wp-content/forum-image-uploads/maverick27/Tall_man.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JardyxEShUE/TdOcFbRZQ8I/AAAAAAAACGI/u-m8d5M2fek/s1600/006.jpg

Hmm interesting the stick figures are found on youtube too..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziB35K9shuI&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJmzJyzRcjc

[1159]

So the new world order is slowly but surely materialising its plans for global domination. Every day we see more signs and evidence that the elite is preparing to hide from catastrophes and emerge to rule the new world.

We keep hearing about a solar system intruder, elenin, dark star, planet-x whatever, and regularly get a countdown to the possible problems it might cause from pole shift to major extinction level events.

2012 heralds a massive galactic alignment that may or may not change the whole world as we know it with earth changes, energetic forces or complete annihilation, assuming planet x doesn't get in first ...

What do we make of all this? I was heavily into the photon belt back in the 90s and that never came to anything, is planet x and the galactic alignment just another drama that will fade away?

I'm also asking questions like 'Why has o many billions of dollars neen spent on these DUMBS? No-ne in their right mind does this without a really good rationale. 'If the elite have access to these underground cities to escape the earth changes, what's the point in us staying alive, only to be tyrannised by these monsters when they crawl back out of their holes? They will not only be well equipped with military strength, but also well organised to take over the surviving heroes of mankind and force us into an even worse NWO than we have now.

Pole shift, planet-x, earth changes, galactic alignment and a well prepared elite! for heavens sake, we need some fair wind and fortune on our side to avoid a generation of guerrilla warfare and oppression. Not something I fancy surviving for ...

What do you think? What is the long term plan for the next ten years? Are we heading for a scenario like seen in the film 'The Road'? God help us if that's the case. Is there a 'galactic calvary' watching and waiting to save planet earth in our darkest hour? or is it really all down to us to suffer the fate of our own doings ...

What possibilities are ahead to help the true humans survive, evolve and finally defeat the greedy tyrannical elite that have oppressed us for so many generations?

So many questions, but that's the way it is. A whole truck load of uncertainty and a looming timeline that seems to be in favour of those with money, power and the status quo.

Is anyone co-ordinating these questions and hatching a game plan, or are we just hoping for the best and hoping the whole thing is just another haox?

[greybeard]

There is a lot on this link and further links on the initial page.
Some of it quite in depth.
It would seem that a comet with a long orbit has more mass.
A lot of circumstantial evidence.
Comments as always appreciated.
Chris


http://globalrumblings.blogspot.com/2011/05/breakingcomet-elenin-white-house-letter.html

[ghostrider]

Two suns?
The recent pictures of two suns confuse me, in that Planet X is not thought to emit light.
If the photographs are genuine then the second sun would have to be at least as large as the current sun.
Thoughts on this appreciated.

Chris a mini solar system is passing thru our inner solar system with it's own sun and planets/moons and comets.

[Hervé]

... a mini solar system is passing thru our inner solar system with it's own sun and planets/moons and comets.

Almost but not quite: The mini solar system is associated with a brown dwarf star which is the companion to our Sun in its journey around the galaxy. Both constitute our BINARY solar system. As they dance around each other they don't penetrate into each other's planetary system but "polish" each other's Oort cloud. That's the assumption from our Oort cloud having a "sheer edge" on its outside (clean shaven outside, the inside is a lot fuzzier).



https://fwtinw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p-GVcbSbWldyGBQSPHMm5Gu2c_gQooLDnrX1_hMZrD_nh6r2dp8JqH4VVldBJlwtGscUOsel3d2lyJBIH_FTDPsGJs5eNRHVz/Binary-01.gif?psid=1




Look at this animation to get a visual of how each partner of the binary system speed up or slow down in their orbit around the system's center of gravity:


http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...n/theory.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/introduction/theory.shtml)



As it is known that the Oort cloud has its outside edge nicely "polished" (i.e. the "Sheer Edge"), here is their animation on how that could occur with a binary system:


http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.o...heeredge.shtml (http://www.binaryresearchinstitute.org/bri/research/evidence/sheeredge.shtml)




In short, our solar system (binary stars plus their respective planets) are dancing around the galactic center describing "travelling ovals."

[The Truth Is In There]

well, check out the following. this article blew me away to say the least because it connects a lot of dots and explains stuff that didn't make sense before (like how can a comet cause earthquakes or that recent storm on saturn).

what's even more strange is that it fits the bible prophecy of the rapture. i've never given much credence to accurateness where prophecies are concerned but i've changed my mind after i watched some of the youtube clips where people explained that the planetary alignments of sep 29th are 100% identical to the ones described in rev 12.1 (written/predicted hundreds of years ago)

if you also take into account other prophecies (three days of darkness etc.), the closeness to the end of the mayan calendar according to calleman (28.10.2011), what people such as george kavassilas say about portals opening and what we know about ascension and the influence of electromagnetism on consciousness and dna it looks like elenin will be the reason why all this might very well happen just two months hence.

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source: http://endgametime.wordpress.com/comet-elenin-let-their-be-light/
- go to the website to view the article incl. images

Elenin is a very dangerous cosmic object. Sometimes we need to watch what an object does as well as watching the object while looking for clues. Elenin is not visible to the naked eye, but does appear to have an EM effect on our solar system at distances of 14+ AUs. Elenin is also dangerous because it is a long period (10000+ years) comet whose tail the Earth passes through. Comets are not balls of ice and dust like Nasa states. Nasa will not release this information because there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it except panic. Sit back and enjoy the ride and be thankful to be alive in this time to bear witness to this event.

A capacitor is a device for storing electric charge. Comets are electric cosmic capacitors that gather and store energy as they pass through space. Comets are electromagnetically connected to the sun and planets by EM ropes (JPL, 2005). Extreme EM fields can cause earthquakes. Elenin’s line up position with the Earth and sun correlates Earth seismicity. This is what HAARP research is based upon. EM energy lubricates fault lines and can cause fault slippage. The reason Elenin is causing quakes when other comets do not is because Elenin has been in deep space a long time gathering electrons and storing energy for discharging to the sun at perigee.

The EM field that results from the storage of such a large amount of electricity is connected to the Earth and influences geological activities as well as weather and more. A comets positively charged metallic core is ideal for storing and attracting electrons. Comets pick up electrons as they fly through space because the electrons are attracted to the metallic comet nucleus. The larger the comet and longer the comet travels through space without discharging, the more electricity is stored in the comet. When the comet approaches the sun, it begins to glow because the electron cloud is energized by the sun’s proton wind. The hydrogen protons combine with the oxygen in the solar wind to produce water in the comet’s tail; which is comprised of visible photons (coma) generated by the comet’s electric circuit. The sun provides the positive charge and the stored electrons provide the negative charge to complete the electrical circuit with the sun.

The metal comet nucleus behaves similar to the filament on a lightbulb. When positive and negative wires are attached, the filament of a lightbulb produces a photon glow. The intensity of photon emission is proportional to the amount of current applied to the circuit. Comets do the same thing when the comet encounters the solar wind. Comets glow proportional to the amount of protons and electrons interacting within the circuit. On occasion a comet will release its stored energy in a burst of photons when the EM ropes provide a surge in protons. The luminosity can increase by million of times when the comet discharges its capacitance to the sun. Most don’t have enough charge or do not get close enough to the sun to explosively discharge their energy and just pass through the solar system gathering energy for the next opportunity to erupt.

The infrared signature for comet Elenin suggests the electrical charge Elenin is carrying is so large that when the comet dumps its capacitance, the resulting photon flare up will engulf the Earth as the Earth passes through the tail. The evidence is in Nasa’s google sky infrared image of Elenin. When Elenin was 14 AUs away on June 14, 2007, Nasa photographed the comet when they took the infrared image for google sky. The infrared image indicates Elenin’s infrared electrical signature is 17 million miles across with xray jets extending over 100 million miles from Elenin. Elenin will pass the Earth at 21 million miles. When Elenin flares and dumps its electron load (electricity) to the sun, the photon flash will be so great that it will instantly turn everything on the Earth’s surface into light. Don’t worry though. There is a lot more action before we evaporate.

Elenin’s enormous EM field produced from its electron pillaging throughout deep space should cause earthquakes with magnitudes of 10 or greater so that the Earth will ring with seismicity prior to photon bombardment. As you can see, Elenin is quite different than any other object ever encountered and publicly acknowledged by Nasa. There is no other object in space that humans have identified that has an electric signature like Elenin. This is why the governments of the world are building bunkers deep within the Earth. This is why the seed vault was built in Greenland. This is why the US government is spending like there is no tomorrow. This is why our weather is changing now. This is why we have civil unrest around the world. If you are still not convinced.

Take a look at this evidence.

Look at the circles. The bluegreen circles represent the orbits of the planets in our solar system. The red dot in each orbit is the location of a planet. The red dot in the center is the sun. The first circle is Mercury’s orbit. The second is Venus. The third is Earth. Notice the moon circling Earth and its position. This is important. Note the next circle. This represents a planet with five moons. This planet no longer exists. The asteroid belt is located there now. The final circle is Jupiter. Note the position of Jupiter. The red circle is the orbit of a long period object like a comet. Note the object and its tail.

What does this mean? This arrangement points to a specific point in time. There is only one short period in time that our planets in our solar system line up in this configuration. This drawing signifies a specific date. To determine what date this drawing represents, I used the Jet Propulsion laboratories ELENIN ORBITAL DIAGRAM. This diagram shows the location of all our planets and comet ELENIN. If one uses the controls on the model and moves the model forward in time to 9/26/11, the following diagram results.

Look at the position of each planet. Each planet matches the location of the same planet on the 10 Franc Bill. Mercury is in the same location. Venus matches the location on the bill. Mars is at the 12 o’clock position and matches the drawing. Jupiter is in the 2 o’clock position and matches the bill. I looked up the moon’s position on 9/26/11.

CONCLUSION: The drawing by Leonhard Euller constructed over 230 years ago signifies an event occurring on September 26, 2011 that is so significant that the date has been placed on currency and no one can be told about it. The only people who know are the descendants of the Illuminati who have placed these hints in perfect clear view to give their people the chance for survival. Still not satisfied? Do you still believe in staggering coincidence.

IF you are not sold that this is the real deal. Keep on reading.

This is the new 10 swiss franc. See the polarized light waves of all frequencies?

See the waves of light propagating across the page from high to low frequency. The light appears polarized and includes all wavelengths. This is what ELE brings us, high intensity polarized light that is out of phase with our space-time dimension. The blue wave represents the light of all wavelengths in phase with the earth. The red wave represents light from ELE. The light from ELE is about 30 degrees out of phase as shown on the bill. Matter 30 degrees out of phase is not visible in our space-time dimension. Only matter vibrating at the same frequency can occupy space in our perception of the universe.

Now look at the person in the window. This presents a person between worlds, not specifically in either one at this time.

Did you see the comet on this bill? I bet you overlooked it. It is very subtle. Look to the immediate left of the point where the light waves begin. There is an orange and yellow asteroid looking figure. The orange dots represent photons being emitted from the object. One is expanded into the light wave drawing to indicate what these dots represent. The light waves start close to the edge of the comet.

Now lets take a look at the 50. Note the red and blue broken circular lines. These lines represent broken chromosomes. The out of phase energy reboots the body by tearing down the DNA and restructuring.

Take a look at the 100.

The white human appears to mutate into a 10 feet tall alien that resembles the creatures from the movie CLose Encounters of the Third Kind. These are us as we ascend into timespace, not space-time.

Now take a look at the 200 franc. Can you see the object streaking through the sky where the 200 is located. The object plunges into the ocean and makes huge waves that destroy the cities’ sky scrapers. This happens when the earth passes through the wake of the ELE in November.

Now the finale. The 1000 franc bill.

Turn the bill so you can read the 1000. Note the God like figure looking down on the new Earth. Notice the pairs of chromosomes that have been straightened out and are no longer broken.

Now if this evidence isn’t good enough for you to acknowledge, then there is probably no evidence short of the actual event that will convince you.

VIA CON DIOS.

GOD is light. You are light. See you very, very soon.

(first published July 1, 2011)

Edit added July 23, 2011

There is a lot more. Here is what ELEnin has been doing to Saturn on its approach. These electrical storms produce lightening bolts that are 10,000 times as strong as the strongest bolts of lightening on earth.

Here is the link to the article. Nasa has some info on this, and there are others. This storm has been kept really quiet and not many seem to connect the dots.. but here it is.

http://www.universetoday.com/87269/the-sights-and-sounds-of-saturns-super-storm/

You can see the electrical storms in this photo. These are the contact points for the EM ropes that connect to the planet. We can’t see the EM ropes…. yet, but if you go to SOHO you can see the EM ropes coming off of venus on the left hand side of the their photo directly into the sun. I will try to get these out tomorrow.

Take a look at Saturn. Hundreds of earths will fit inside this storm. It’s a monster. It happens every year on saturn which is about 30 earth years. However, its not supposed to be happening now. Its over 10 years early and very unexpected. This is like having a hurricane in January in the Gulf of Mexico. It doesn’t happen.

There’s more….but you will have to wait until I can present it to you. In the mean time look up “time cloak” and review the article by MIT that came out a few days ago on google and ask yourself, where does the particle go when it is time cloaked?

Here’s the link.

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26992/

Remember, to be in our universe, an object must have an x,y,z coordinate and a time. Without these, the object does not exist in our perception of reality and our senses can’t observe it.

If Elenin’s EM field creates a time cloak for the earth similar to how the physicist in this article time cloak a quantum particle, where does the earth go? It can’t be in space-time.

Could it go to the same place that quantum particles appear to reside…….called superposition? Where space-time is inverted. The second dimension of time. What is that you ask? What is the second dimension of time? It’s the real reality, the non-material world. The place that existed before our universe.

Quantum particles are EM energy. As such, these particles have large EM signatures/mass. The EM field places the quantum particle in superposition. ELE could theoretically do the same thing if the charge/mass ratio is similar to that of certain quantum particles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superposition

And right when CERN is about to discover the God particle.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/2083918/cern_officials_may_have_witnessed_socalled_god_particle/

Makes me go hmmm.

Also, the last alignment for ELEnin, earth, and sun is……..wait for it….. December 21, 2012. This is ELEnin’s final earthquake alignment day. After this, no more ELEnin for thousands of years. This date doesn’t mark the end, but a new beginning after the EVENT. Life in superposition. Here is the link to the JPL Orbital Diagram. You can play with it and advance it to any date you desire.

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=C%2F2010%20X1;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=1#orb

[greybeard]

NASA admits

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/857/276/Bad_News_from_NASA:_Proof_That_Comet_Elenin_Is_Affecting_Earth.html


Cant see that they admitted anything new,

Chris

[yiolas]

Thanks go out to The Truth Is In There and Greybeard for the links to some great articles.

Th EM ropes and the capacitor idea make a lot of sense to me.
Elenin is a very dangerous cosmic object. Sometimes we need to watch what an object does as well as watching the object while looking for clues. Elenin is not visible to the naked eye, but does appear to have an EM effect on our solar system at distances of 14+ AUs. Elenin is also dangerous because it is a long period (10000+ years) comet whose tail the Earth passes through. Comets are not balls of ice and dust like Nasa states. Nasa will not release this information because there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it except panic. Sit back and enjoy the ride and be thankful to be alive in this time to bear witness to this event.

A capacitor is a device for storing electric charge. Comets are electric cosmic capacitors that gather and store energy as they pass through space. Comets are electromagnetically connected to the sun and planets by EM ropes (JPL, 2005). Extreme EM fields can cause earthquakes. Elenin’s line up position with the Earth and sun correlates Earth seismicity. This is what HAARP research is based upon. EM energy lubricates fault lines and can cause fault slippage. The reason Elenin is causing quakes when other comets do not is because Elenin has been in deep space a long time gathering electrons and storing energy for discharging to the sun at perigee.


Furthermore, judging by the letter sent from the White House Office of Science and Technology to two member of the House Committee on Science and Technology, urging them of the need to develop an emergency preparedness plan for,
Protecting the United States from a near Earth object, that is expected to collide with earth.
I think that it is more of a matter of when rather than if

[The Truth Is In There]

you're right yiolas, and it also explains a lot better than the brown (and very cold) dwarf theory why it's not visible to the naked eye. electromagnetism is not visible to us but they can see its em signature through their infrared telescopes.

it also lines up with the prophecies that speak about a fiery dragon or similar things as well as the red kachina. if it discharges at the sun in early september we're going to see not only a brilliant light show in the skies but we'll also have solar flares beyond our wildest dreams and consequently even more volcanoes going off and earthquakes like never before in recorded history.

that doesn't mean planet x isn't around as well, i'm sure it is, and i reckon there won't be a pole shift before px is here, it's just that everything that could possibly be thrown at us is coming in right now and in 2012. i feel like i've just won the jackpot, i'm so happy to be around during these times. this is going to be the biggest show we're ever going to witness and it's just around the corner.

[greybeard]

you're right yiolas, and it also explains a lot better than the brown (and very cold) dwarf theory why it's not visible to the naked eye. electromagnetism is not visible to us but they can see its em signature through their infrared telescopes.

it also lines up with the prophecies that speak about a fiery dragon or similar things as well as the red kachina. if it discharges at the sun in early september we're going to see not only a brilliant light show in the skies but we'll also have solar flares beyond our wildest dreams and consequently even more volcanoes going off and earthquakes like never before in recorded history.

that doesn't mean planet x isn't around as well, i'm sure it is, and i reckon there won't be a pole shift before px is here, it's just that everything that could possibly be thrown at us is coming in right now and in 2012. i feel like i've just won the jackpot, i'm so happy to be around during these times. this is going to be the biggest show we're ever going to witness and it's just around the corner.

I feel we are starting to get some clarity -- not saying we have the right picture yet but I think it is undeniable something unusual is going on.
There is too much circumstance evidence---- the only thing that is missing is the BODY
Sorry could not resist.

We will know soon enough.

Regards Chris

[Jay]

Thoughts on CERN finding God particle - in the news & not sure if this forum is the place for it (apologies if not). :yield:
Announced on Friday CERN scientists suspect glimpse of Higgs boson (source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/jul/22/cern-higgs-boson-god-particle) but at the same time apparently PTB are gagging the scientists (source : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/18/cern_cosmic_ray_gag/ ).

[The Truth Is In There]

I feel we are starting to get some clarity -- not saying we have the right picture yet but I think it is undeniable something unusual is going on.
There is too much circumstance evidence---- the only thing that is missing is the BODY
Sorry could not resist.

We will know soon enough.

Regards Chris

greybeard, i think we finally got full clarity! ignore the conclusions drawn in the endgametime file. the electromagnetism thing is correct but it's the magnetism of nibiru/planet x and not elenin. elenin is just the precursor.

check out the following file, it explains everything in detail incl. scientific proof (and lots of calculations, my head's still spinning) and it gives a timeline. the conclusion is that october 2012 is the most probable date for the pole shift (give or take two months depending on the acceleration of planet x as it comes closer to the sun) and that there will be much more severe earth changes beginning in september this year with another peak around march 11, 2012. it's all there, this does it for me, now i'm 100% convinced. :amen:

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/60725711

[greybeard]

Thanks for all the work you are putting in The Truth is Out There.
David Sereda has said that electromagnetism is what we should be looking at. (my words)
He stated that there is a massive band of it heading our way from the Galactic Center due to arrive about Dec 2012.
He is also very positive about an upgrade/change of DNA

Chris

PS you link does not work for me but that might be because I use Ubuntu Linux

[Operator]

He is also very positive about an upgrade/change of DNA


If it doesn't kill you it will make you stronger .... ;)

[The Truth Is In There]

Thanks for all the work you are putting in The Truth is Out There.
David Sereda has said that electromagnetism is what we should be looking at. (my words)
He stated that there is a massive band of it heading our way from the Galactic Center due to arrive about Dec 2012.
He is also very positive about an upgrade/change of DNA

Chris

PS you link does not work for me but that might be because I use Ubuntu Linux

too bad, maybe you can view the file on another pc or install a different browser to get it? imo it's really the best information that is currently available anywhere in the web. what is described also has nothing at all to do with the galactic center, the topic is planet x and elenin and it leaves no questions unanswered, at least for me at this point.

[ponda]

Hey nice find Truth.Lots of detailed info on that link.

Thanks for posting it.

cheers

[steveofengland]

Thanks for all the work you are putting in The Truth is Out There.
David Sereda has said that electromagnetism is what we should be looking at. (my words)
He stated that there is a massive band of it heading our way from the Galactic Center due to arrive about Dec 2012.
He is also very positive about an upgrade/change of DNA

Chris

PS you link does not work for me but that might be because I use Ubuntu Linux

too bad, maybe you can view the file on another pc or install a different browser to get it? imo it's really the best information that is currently available anywhere in the web. what is described also has nothing at all to do with the galactic center, the topic is planet x and elenin and it leaves no questions unanswered, at least for me at this point.

Link not working for me too?

[Operator]

Link not working for me too?

If you have a facebook account you can login and download the pdf ... or you may consider to subscribe (not sure but probably free).

[yiolas]

It's free and easy to subscribe to Scribb. I just did and downloaded the pdf. Try it.

[Steve C]

Hi all,

This video is the reason why i dont believe in nibiru/planet x/brown dwarf.

Mike Bara says there is a 1% chance of its existence,that would mean none existence imo. Enjoy.

http://www.cmn.tv/videos/mike-bara-the-world-in-crisis/?utm_source=WordSocial&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=WordSocial

[Meesh]

greybeard, i think we finally got full clarity! ignore the conclusions drawn in the endgametime file. the electromagnetism thing is correct but it's the magnetism of nibiru/planet x and not elenin. elenin is just the precursor.

check out the following file, it explains everything in detail incl. scientific proof (and lots of calculations, my head's still spinning) and it gives a timeline. the conclusion is that october 2012 is the most probable date for the pole shift (give or take two months depending on the acceleration of planet x as it comes closer to the sun) and that there will be much more severe earth changes beginning in september this year with another peak around march 11, 2012. it's all there, this does it for me, now i'm 100% convinced. :amen:

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/60725711[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I did a lousy job including the original posting.

I've just read all this material-- very intriguing. I'm not familiar with the site and was wondering who authored this paper. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see a name or any credentials. Are uploads done anonymously?