Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[nearing]

INTERESTING VIDEO TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL.

BLUE ROUND SHAPE UFO MOTHERSHIPS NEAR MERCURY SKY CHART 11TH AUGUST 2011 (HD)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bUy4gj-Wlw&feature=related

What are these things?

Those look like the images that SOHO takes of the Sun on a much smaller scale. With the blocked out areas being the arm that has the screen to cover the sun's brightness but on a much smaller scale.

Perhaps NASA or whoever took them was looking at something in those areas with the SOHO and the screen captured that. The question is WHAT were they looking at? If it's near Mercury, I would tend to believe they were looking for Elenin and the Dwarf Star.

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Elenin? Nibiru? Honda? again , same place 5th August 2011

Same thing in the sky again over Auckland, NOT a PLANE!! I still think its Comet Elenin or Nibiru!





It changes location and direction pretty much in the couple of minutes in the video. So it's NOT an object far, far away.
Since it seems to be recorded at dawn I think it could be a plane with a con-trail that's reflecting the sunlight.

It could be but the Sun moves that quickly as it rises and sets as well.

[nearing]

Just wanted to let you all know about this thread I started:

"Astronomer Leonid Elenin doesn't exist and I have undeniable EVIDENCE" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?27556-Astronomer-Leonid-Elenin-doesn-t-exist-and-I-have-undeniable-EVIDENCE)

I'd love your input.

[Lifebringer]

I actually signed up to get in then found there was a charge for the info. I'm poor man, I really can't afford to pay for the info. Perhaps a link/leak will come. Information that is factual should be free so it can educate as many as possible for a better world.

[nearing]

I actually signed up to get in then found there was a charge for the info. I'm poor man, I really can't afford to pay for the info. Perhaps a link/leak will come. Information that is factual should be free so it can educate as many as possible for a better world.

Signed up for what, Lifebringer?

[Rocky_Shorz]

I actually signed up to get in then found there was a charge for the info. I'm poor man, I really can't afford to pay for the info. Perhaps a link/leak will come. Information that is factual should be free so it can educate as many as possible for a better world.

anything worth paying for is already being discussed here, they most likely used us as a reference to write what they did... ;)

[nearing]

I actually signed up to get in then found there was a charge for the info. I'm poor man, I really can't afford to pay for the info. Perhaps a link/leak will come. Information that is factual should be free so it can educate as many as possible for a better world.

anything worth paying for is already being discussed here, they most likely used us as a reference to write what they did... ;)

Color me confused. Who is they?

[Rocky_Shorz]

anyone who is charging big bucks for the "REAL" story on Elenin... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

if you ever get really terrified from fear mongering videos made to keep your heart pounding...

you can read the blog of the man who found it...


Comet Elenin is attracting more and more interest in the scientific community; at the end of July observations were made on the largest submillimeter telescope in the world JCMT. Since August 1st, observations are ongoing with the space telescope STEREO-B; they will continue for several weeks. It is probable that the comet will be visible in the field of the COR2 (STEREO) coronagraph beginning August 20. Beginning September 23rd, for 6 days, the comet will be visible in the field of view of the LASCO C3 coronagraph on the SOHO spacecraft.

Very recently I received information that several more spacecraft may observe comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin), specifically Venus Express and Messenger. These observations will allow us to obtain unique information about the comet at the time of its perihelion when it will not be observable from the Earth

Observations are planned with SPICAV UV in the 110-310 nm wavelength band on the Venus Express spacecraft and Messenger’s MASCS spectrograph. Moreover, by simultaneous observations from two spacecraft with different points of view, with the VMC camera on Venus Express and the MDIS camera on Messenger, it is possible to obtain a three-dimensional model of the comet’s coma! It is possible that comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) may become the brightest comet that these two spacecraft may observe during their entire time of service. I hope this application is approved and the observations take place. Leonid Elenin (http://spaceobs.org/en/tag/comet-elenin/)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLaJloEXtqI

"this once in a lifetime event is being corrupted by Scientific illiteracy and fear mongering..."

[nearing]

Rocky, see post #844.

[Rocky_Shorz]

lol... he exists...

ELEnin Extinction Level Event no its not... ;)


Throw some letters out and I can create fear... doesn't mean anything though...

[nearing]

lol... he exists...

ELEnin Extinction Level Event no its not... ;)


Throw some letters out and I can create fear... doesn't mean anything though...

No one here is trying to create fear. You obviously didn't read the whole thing or the videos. Just because you see a blog or a photo of someone on the internet, doesn't mean he is the person the governments say he is.

Not going to argue with you.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well I did some searching and found his reports going back 10 years, the video wasn't produced by him, but he posted it on the blog...

the hop through hoops thread a few days ago showed another comet he was following as it was leaving us...

the Video was talking about the earth ending event heading towards us...

anyone can create a video...

which to believe is the secret, if you see one obviously wrong statement, stop watching it is just another clueless observer spinning fear...


They are blaming fear of this comet as part of the reason for the London Riots, anarchist don't care because they are going to die...


they'll still have credit cards to pay off when it passes... ;)

[nearing]

Who is blaming the fear of the comet on the riots? And who cares what they say?

It's not the comet that is the concern. It the DS that is right behind it that is. Personally, I welcome a big shake up on this planet. We are in a very bad state here and only when humans come close to death or have a NDE do they change their ugly ways.

I say bring the Dwarf Star on!

[truthseekerdan]

Who is blaming the fear of the comet on the riots? And who cares what they say?

It's not the comet that is the concern. It the DS that is right behind it that is. Personally, I welcome a big shake up on this planet. We are in a very bad state here and only when humans come close to death or have a NDE do they change their ugly ways.

I say bring the Dwarf Star on!

Be careful what you wish for... Because you might just end up experiencing it. ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik-9qWrIzbM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Much Love & positive vibes!

[nearing]

Be careful what you wish for... Because you might just end up experiencing it. ;)



That's the idea. ;)

[applejax]

i'm new here and after reading this thread...mind's blown. i don't know what to say but i think it is necessary to shake up the earth. i may perish along with it, but i'd like to see a better world than this current stressful world.

[Hervé]

May I remind everyone that the Brown Dwarf won't get any closer to our Sun than two Oort clouds worth of distance...



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Hence cannot be following Elenin in its tracks...



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[passiglight]

there is scope for a very large red flag event occurring here

[Operator]

i'm new here and after reading this thread...mind's blown. i don't know what to say but i think it is necessary to shake up the earth. i may perish along with it, but i'd like to see a better world than this current stressful world.

There's a lot of programming going on ... especially by the ones in the know. I've just watched a trailer of Battleship which is e.g. planned to be released 18 May 2012.
Would they put in so much effort if the world was going to pieces before then ? Would such a movie be useful if e.g. something like disclosure happened before then ?

These thoughts always put me back with 2 feet on the ground again ...

[nearing]

i'm new here and after reading this thread...mind's blown. i don't know what to say but i think it is necessary to shake up the earth. i may perish along with it, but i'd like to see a better world than this current stressful world.

There's a lot of programming going on ... especially by the ones in the know. I've just watched a trailer of Battleship which is e.g. planned to be released 18 May 2012.
Would they put in so much effort if the world was going to pieces before then ? Would such a movie be useful if e.g. something like disclosure happened before then ?

These thoughts always put me back with 2 feet on the ground again ...

Let's not forget that they want to keep everyone spiritually asleep all the way through this period because the spiritually awake have the ability to change our course.

So please don't stay too close to the ground. ;-)

[WhiteFeather]

i'm new here and after reading this thread...mind's blown. i don't know what to say but i think it is necessary to shake up the earth. i may perish along with it, but i'd like to see a better world than this current stressful world.

There's a lot of programming going on ... especially by the ones in the know. I've just watched a trailer of Battleship which is e.g. planned to be released 18 May 2012.
Would they put in so much effort if the world was going to pieces before then ? Would such a movie be useful if e.g. something like disclosure happened before then ?

These thoughts always put me back with 2 feet on the ground again ...

Let's not forget that they want to keep everyone spiritually asleep all the way through this period because the spiritually awake have the ability to change our course.

So please don't stay too close to the ground. ;-)

Great Point Nearing! Great Point Indeed.

[Hervé]

[...]
There's a lot of programming going on ... especially by the ones in the know. I've just watched a trailer of Battleship which is e.g. planned to be released 18 May 2012.
Would they put in so much effort if the world was going to pieces before then ? Would such a movie be useful if e.g. something like disclosure happened before then ?

These thoughts always put me back with 2 feet on the ground again ...

That's been my thoughts all along:



I'm looking forward to 2013 ; )

those that get off on fear porn will have to get together and set another destruction date yet again

'am with you on that one! Spielberg, Steven, is working on at releasing a new movie for early 2013... that means he expects people to still be able to spend money and go to movie theatres to watch it... wise man I'd say.

[greybeard]

So there is some validation Re planet X but relax its miles away.
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovj6xupEbZc&feature=player_embedded

[nearing]

Is there a video or something, Chris? Can't see anything with iPad. Can you copy link?

[yiolas]

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ovj6xupEbZc

[nearing]

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ovj6xupEbZc

Thank you dear Yiolas!

Haha! So a little at a time now, they are admitting it. Get peoPle used to the fact of the object then perhaps later when there can be no denying anymore, tell them it's closer than first thought and coming closer. Lol!!

Gotta love the predictability of these talking mouths for TPTW.

[greybeard]

Is there a video or something, Chris? Can't see anything with iPad. Can you copy link?
Yiola beat me to it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovj6xupEbZc&feature=player_embedded

There are several on that section of u tube but it is not really adding to what we suspect already.

I still dont have an opinion but I will say that all I have read and viewed leads me to believe that we are probably about to experience something very positive.
It would seem that the human race gets an upgrade ever so many thousand years, there is no missing link-- we jump to the next level in an instant.
A New Heaven a New Earth-- a new species of human.
There seems to be scientific evidence that the DNA changes when it is subject to higher frequency electromagnetic energy and thats heading our way now.

This is a link re David Sereda, nearing, that you should be able to use for your I Pad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Tlm2dkpwk

Chris

[nearing]

Is there a video or something, Chris? Can't see anything with iPad. Can you copy link?
Yiola beat me to it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovj6xupEbZc&feature=player_embedded

There are several on that section of u tube but it is not really adding to what we suspect already.

I still dont have an opinion but I will say that all I have read and viewed leads me to believe that we are probably about to experience something very positive.
It would seem that the human race gets an upgrade ever so many thousand years, there is no missing link-- we jump to the next level in an instant.
A New Heaven a New Earth-- a new species of human.
There seems to be scientific evidence that the DNA changes when it is subject to higher frequency electromagnetic energy and thats heading our way now.

This is a link re David Sereda, nearing, that you should be able to use for your I Pad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Tlm2dkpwk

Chris

Hallelujah to all that you say there, Chris. Exactly the way I feel too. Thanks for the DS link, I really like him!

[yiolas]

Thanks Chris for the David Sereda interviews on the other threads.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?27666-It-is-not-2012-but-October-2011-&p=284120#post284120

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Tlm2dkpwk&feature=player_embedded#at=17

I too agree with you and Nearing and it is being confirmed for me with each passing day, especially after watching "The Quickening" (http://vimeo.com/27240681) that YES infact what we are about to go through a life changing and positive experience.

[lightpotential]

Dear Group,

After speaking in the Camelot Conference on Elenin, and getting a lot of questions following up on some of the things I said, I have put together a comprehensive Video Presentation on Nibiru, looking at the evidence and the claims made for its existence, and shortly I will be uploading a further presentation that relates to Elenin & the unknown red object within our solar system as recently discovered.

In my view, and as my presentation demonstrates, the evidence against Sitchin's Nibiru Hypothesis is the basis for understanding just what the nature of this 'intruder body' is which is linked in to Elenin, actually is.

The link to the first part of my presentation on My Youtube Channel is as follows. The videos can be watched in sequence from there.


Nibiru, the Asteroid Belt & the Music of the Spheres (http://www.youtube.com/user/Lightdescent#p/u/9/xwwxuApQm4w)


My presentation explains:

1) Why Sitchin is wrong in his explanation for the creation of the asteroid belt.
2) How the Music of the Spheres is used by Scientists to trigger Nuclear Weapons.
3) How the mechanism of the Music of the spheres causes earthquakes and was responsible for the creation of the asteroid belt.
4) The physics underlying the 'end-times' transitions to new celestial 'reigns' through the planets achieving special conjunction patterns.

Sincerely

Keith

[Hervé]

So there is some validation Re planet X but relax its miles away.
Chris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovj6xupEbZc&feature=player_embedded


Well... very interesting...

Have a look at the article from the CNN quoted Independent...



http://www.independent.co.uk/independent.co.uk/images/share-links-logo.jpg

Up telescope! Search begins for giant new planet
Tyche may be bigger than Jupiter and orbit at the outer edge of the solar system
By Paul Rodgers
Sunday, 13 February 2011


http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/dynamic/00497/Pg-10-space-4_497856t.jpg (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/up-telescope-search-begins-for-giant-new-planet-2213119.html?action=Popup)
NASA Jupiter captured in December 2000 from a distance of around 6 million miles


If you grew up thinking there were nine planets and were shocked when Pluto was demoted five years ago, get ready for another surprise. There may be nine after all, and Jupiter may not be the largest.

The hunt is on for a gas giant up to four times the mass of Jupiter thought to be lurking in the outer Oort Cloud, the most remote region of the solar system. The orbit of Tyche (pronounced ty-kee), would be 15,000 times farther from the Sun than the Earth's, and 375 times farther than Pluto's, which is why it hasn't been seen so far.

But scientists now believe the proof of its existence has already been gathered by a Nasa space telescope, Wise, and is just waiting to be analysed.


The first tranche of data is to be released in April, and astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette think it will reveal Tyche within two years. "If it does, John and I will be doing cartwheels," Professor Whitmire said. "And that's not easy at our age."

[...]

Whole article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/up-telescope-search-begins-for-giant-new-planet-2213119.html




Did you notice the date of publication... look at the projected date for obtaining the data analysis... well... where the hell is it?

The CNN blog about it: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/15/scientists-telescope-hunt-massive-hidden-object-in-space/

[loveandgratitude]

Neumayer Station Antarctica PLANETOID!!!

THIS WAS MARKED URGENT!!! MORE MYSTERY FOR YOUR GUYS.

YOU LOVE A BIT OF MYSTERY I KNOW

Watch the images from 19:00 UTC (2011-08-14) to 19:50 UTC (2011-08-14)

This live movie of the Neumayer Station in Antarctica shows a planetoid in horizon that cannot be the moon cause the moon rises just before this thing shows itself for one frame. The sun had just set behind camera.

Besides, the moon is full now and should outshine everything else!!!

There is also no clouds on the sky that could cover the moon even if it were the moon!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Es8zJFQvU&feature=related

MODS.........COULD WE PLEASE CHANGE THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD TO -

ELENIN UPDATES. THANK YOU.

[Hervé]

Pleeeeeeaaaaaaaase...

Leave this guy and his videos in the deep freeze where they belong; there are already enough debunks of his videos in this thread only.

But just in case you're not convinced, then you need to explain how come a celestial body of such a size happens to be able to sit between the station and the clouds...


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Then, how come that said celestial body is transparent enough to let the clouds be seen?

So, may be... may be... could it be a lens flare?

Actually, that's not exactly a case of a regular lens flare as that "celestial body" disappears quickly. For some reasons, the Moon is reflected back to the camera from the inside of the protective plexiglas bubble the camera is encased in. That necessitates a specific angle onto the first mirror (probably the camera lens itself) back to the plexiglass bubble and back to the camera.

Additionally, that "celestial body" is even in front of the radio mast by the side of the station.



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[greybeard]

I would doubt that the pictures at the Neumayer Station prove anything.
Clouds can be a channel for light.
The whole cloud can light up when hit by a bright light (the Sun) and even be brightest some distance away from the sun.
We just have to be patient.


I too think the title of the thread should be changed as it has become miss-leading.

Some good input on the thread.

Chris

[Hervé]

I would doubt that the pictures at the Neumayer Station prove anything.
Clouds can be a channel for light.
The whole cloud can light up when hit by a bright light (the Sun) and even be brightest some distance away from the sun.
We just have to be patient.


I too think the title of the thread should be changed as it has become miss-leading.

Some good input on the thread.

Chris

Sorry Chris, you lost me as to what you are referring to and what exactly you are talking about?

Could you be a little more specific?

[loveandgratitude]

It seems to appear that the celestial body is behind the clouds from what I can see.

[Hervé]

I see...

Why don't you check out this thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25476-ANTARCTICA-Neumayer-Ground-CAM-Back&p=264763&viewfull=1#post264763

Other than that, I don't know what else to provide as evidence since even the obvious -- in my view -- is misperceived.

[greybeard]

Sorry I cant define my thoughts clearly in a technical way.
Best I can say is light plays tricks.
If the sun is behind clouds it can seem to be in a slightly different place than it really is.
Im not saying there is or is not twin sun or sources of light.
I simply await conclusive evidence.
There is however enough evidence that something out of the norm is going on.

Regards Chris

[Hervé]

Sorry I cant define my thoughts clearly in a technical way.
Best I can say is light plays tricks.
If the sun is behind clouds it can seem to be in a slightly different place than it really is.
Im not saying there is or is not twin sun or sources of light.
I simply await conclusive evidence.
There is however enough evidence that something out of the norm is going on.

Regards Chris

Light definitely play tricks and some people -- like that GooTuber UrsusAdams -- are taking advantage of that to boost all sorts of disinfo and fear mongering.

As far as the Neumayer station, you would have to watch a number of their livecam time-gap videos to get a feel for the environment: http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieT.html

Then it is possible to notice that, that particular "celestial body" reappears at full moon time periods... also you would be able to notice the behaviour of the lense flares and compare them with that "celestial body."

In doing so, that's what allowed me to realise that most "lense flares" are in fact doubled from a reflection on a plexiglas bubble protecting the cameras (yes, there are two cameras side by side, one color, one B&W). However, try to explain that to someone who makes a snap decision on a single GooTube video without even looking, because it seems to support one's preconceived ideas on the subject... waste of time and disheartening.


As for the things out of the norms, many have existed all along. However there wasn't an internet to share the knowledge and realize how common and widespread it was/is.

That said, there is definitely something going on with the Earth's atmosphere and its properties. Something is changing, whether it is due to weather manipulations, chemtrails, cometary dust accumulations, volcanic eruptions, weakening of Earth's magnetic field and the accelerated wandering of its magnetic poles, etc... but a real 3D second Sun? Not yet in my opinion.

[yiolas]

Hey Guys, eventhough I've stated on this thread that I believe something positive will come from all of this Elenin stuff, I just want to give everyone a heads up about what 'Alexander Retrov' (Novelist, poet, channel, tarot card reader and expert on ancient Egypt & 2012) is warning in predictions he is making regarding Comet Elenin and the very important dates of August 17 and September 26, 2011


There will be a BIG earthquake on August 17th (+ or – a day) it may involve Japan, China, New Zealand, Los Angeles, Mt Vesuvius or Mt Etna, but I feel it will mainly be North America, between the Alusian Islands off Alaska, Seattle or San Francisco. On this date there is an alignment between Venus, the Sun, Mercury and the Earth, with Nibiru at right angles to the sun. I received this channeled information early in 2010 and mistakenly presumed it was for Aug 2010, Now it is clear it was for August 2011. Please tell everyone to warn their family and friends in these areas.

He also does not mince words in describing what will happen on September 26, 2011. Watch the video below. Here is the description:


Dec 2012 or sooner? Yes much sooner, the clock runs out September 25th THIS YEAR. The truth the governments of the world are keeping from you. This seminar presented by Alex Retrov and Krystal Alexander-Hille will wake you up to the truth behind the 2012 doomsday prophecy. Dec 21st 2012 is a fake date created by the 'Illuminati' to catch us completely unprepared for the horrific events to come in September THIS YEAR . The clock runs out this year, NOT 2012. See the overwhelming evidence for yourself!

Video Link "2012 The TRUTH You're NOT being TOLD The clock runs out Sep 25th 2011 " (2012 The TRUTH You're NOT being TOLD The clock runs out Sep 25th 2011)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scZAOQNopok&feature=feedlik

[ThePythonicCow]

This thread is actually the merger of several threads, dating back months. Like it's topic, it is complex ;).

I have changed the thread title from "Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!" to "Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates."

I wanted to catch a bit of the flavor of the original title (from the oldest thread in the merge), as that has become what many of us have come to know as this threads title. At the same time, I wanted to make it a bit more generic, to encompass the various and ongoing updates being posted here.

Thanks for suggesting a title change - hope I chose an adequate one.

[cloud9]

Hey Guys, eventhough I've stated on this thread that I believe something positive will come from all of this Elenin stuff, I just want to give everyone a heads up about what 'Alexander Retrov' (Novelist, poet, channel, tarot card reader and expert on ancient Egypt & 2012) is warning in predictions he is making regarding Comet Elenin and the very important dates of August 17 and September 26, 2011


There will be a BIG earthquake on August 17th (+ or – a day) it may involve Japan, China, New Zealand, Los Angeles, Mt Vesuvius or Mt Etna, but I feel it will mainly be North America, between the Alusian Islands off Alaska, Seattle or San Francisco. On this date there is an alignment between Venus, the Sun, Mercury and the Earth, with Nibiru at right angles to the sun. I received this channeled information early in 2010 and mistakenly presumed it was for Aug 2010, Now it is clear it was for August 2011. Please tell everyone to warn their family and friends in these areas.

He also does not mince words in describing what will happen on September 26, 2011. Watch the video below. Here is the description:


Dec 2012 or sooner? Yes much sooner, the clock runs out September 25th THIS YEAR. The truth the governments of the world are keeping from you. This seminar presented by Alex Retrov and Krystal Alexander-Hille will wake you up to the truth behind the 2012 doomsday prophecy. Dec 21st 2012 is a fake date created by the 'Illuminati' to catch us completely unprepared for the horrific events to come in September THIS YEAR . The clock runs out this year, NOT 2012. See the overwhelming evidence for yourself!

Video Link "2012 The TRUTH You're NOT being TOLD The clock runs out Sep 25th 2011 " (2012 The TRUTH You're NOT being TOLD The clock runs out Sep 25th 2011)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scZAOQNopok&feature=feedlik

I just want to point out that the first 4 minutes or so of this video have the horrible creepy sound in the video in the thread Strange Noise in Ukraine.

I was using headphones when listening to it and I was feeling very nauseous but I didn't know why until I had to stop to answer the phone, to describe it somehow, the silence was too much... after I answered the phone call and started listening to the video again, the sound was there.

I'm wondering if this kind of sound has the purpose of hypnotize people seeing this video so they believe without questioning all they're saying which is very doom and gloom.

I want to point this out because I truly believe nothing is going to happen at this time or at least not because of Elenin, It makes me so sad to see so many people scared and anxious about this thing... if something happens I'll surely die because I live in Long Island so I wish you luck.

Please check the ominous sound... the first 4 minutes.

[kathymarie]

I can't find Part 2 that Alex Retrov mentions....with Krystal Alexander-Hille. Does anyone know about a link to this?

[kathymarie]

......:)....and since I'm asking.......who or what is he alluding to when he mentions the blacked out section of Virgo on Google Sky? I didn't see anything blacked out nor did I see the winged-disk in Leo, although there are references on google to anomalies detected in Google sky recently. I could use a bit of good news after this doom and gloom. My oldest daughter is expecting her first child in December....so what I want are practical ideas about what to do...when to do it.....

blessings...kathy

[Operator]

....so what I want are practical ideas about what to do...when to do it.....

Since we can't positively prove they are right I am always looking for points where they are clearly wrong.

In this case I think the weak points were that according to him earth is moving downward toward the galactic plane and that's were he thinks the 'Photon Band' is.
IMHO earth is currently moving up and away from the galactic plane. We are moving into an area with increased cosmic radiation which may relate to
significant changes that occur 'periodically'.

Wikipedia links the Photon Belt mainly as a 'pseudo-scientific belief' to the new age movement which he's trying to oppose ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_belt

I think it is a very practical idea just to wait and see what happens the next 2 days ... major earthquake or not.
Then there is better opportunity to evaluate it again.

[cloud9]

I just finished the video, quite disturbing.... he said Lake Titicaca is (was?) a water salted lake bt I think this tidbit is wrong, to my knowledge, Titicaca is not salted water.

At this point I think we are just a few hours away from the first prediction so the only thing to do is wait and see.

Perhaps I'm too optimistic but I truly believe that if Nibiru or the Brown Dwarf is so close as to cause so much damage to our planet and perhaps other planets in our solar system by this time we should be able to see it with naked eyes or at least independent astronomers would.

Again, what was it with the wierd noise in the video?

Another point is: if we are so close to almost total destruction and he is so sure about it, how come those lectures are being given to just a few people at the time? If I was in that position of knowing something so important for the whole human race, I would be spreading the information far and wide using the internet and all radio programs as Coast to Coast and Radio Ice, etc., I'd be giving CDs away with the lecture, I would be making a lot of noise.

I don't know, perhaps I'm being too harsh or skeptic but honestly, I think if a big catastrophe was this close to us (everything would happen in the next6 2 months starting tomorrow) and it was due to cosmic agents such as a gigantic planet passing by too close for comfort, at this time it would be so evident that nobody could deny it, there would be many signs, I mean bigger signs.

I wonder who is this person, if anybody here knows a little more about him it would be helpful to know.

This is really a time of confusion and it's very easy to get scared... many times I wonder if those who are not awake yet are in better shape than us, at least they don't know about this kind of stuff or don't believe it and at the end, they can sleep better.

[nearing]

I just finished the video, quite disturbing.... he said Lake Titicaca is (was?) a water salted lake bt I think this tidbit is wrong, to my knowledge, Titicaca is not salted water.

At this point I think we are just a few hours away from the first prediction so the only thing to do is wait and see.

Perhaps I'm too optimistic but I truly believe that if Nibiru or the Brown Dwarf is so close as to cause so much damage to our planet and perhaps other planets in our solar system by this time we should be able to see it with naked eyes or at least independent astronomers would.

Again, what was it with the wierd noise in the video?

Hate the noise! Don't these people realize that it's hard to take them seriously when they have doom music in the background? Cripes!

Some of his points seemed valid and others dubious.

[cloud9]

I just finished the video, quite disturbing.... he said Lake Titicaca is (was?) a water salted lake bt I think this tidbit is wrong, to my knowledge, Titicaca is not salted water.

At this point I think we are just a few hours away from the first prediction so the only thing to do is wait and see.

Perhaps I'm too optimistic but I truly believe that if Nibiru or the Brown Dwarf is so close as to cause so much damage to our planet and perhaps other planets in our solar system by this time we should be able to see it with naked eyes or at least independent astronomers would.

Again, what was it with the wierd noise in the video?

Hate the noise! Don't these people realize that it's hard to take them seriously when they have doom music in the background? Cripes!

Some of his points seemed valid and others dubious.

That noise is not accident... it's at the begining for a whole 4 minutes and then once in while, there it was again... it looks to me it is on purpose.

[ghostrider]

the talking heads will soon be scrambling for astrology/science folks to explain all the strange things in the sky . nibiru/comets/moons . wonder if they'll make the connections will all the disasters, and the mini solar system. by the way the moon looks funny, I wonder if it's a hologram, and what happened to the our moon...

[cloud9]

I went to the website http://www.alexanderretrov.com/2012-talk/2012-background-details

Please note the predictions for dates already passed. To be honest, I feel a lot better now...


"Here are some key dates to do with ‘Elenin.’ which I will now refer to as Nibiru

AU is a measure of distance = distance of earth to sun = ~93 million miles.

Feb 27th 2010 – Chile earthquake, magnitude 8.8, direct alignment of earth on same side of sun to Nib – 6.042 AU. Mercury and Venus also on opposite side as was Jupiter

Sept 4th 2010 – First Christchurch quake, magnitude 7.2 direct alignment on opposite side of sun to Nib 6.258 AU. Mercury and Venus also on opposite side

Early Feb 2011 – Nibiru passed through the asteroid belt, picking up and dragging hundreds perhaps thousands of asteroids of various sizes in its gravitational wake.

Mar 11th 2011 – Japan earthquake magnitude 9, direct alignment on same side of sun to Nib 2.01 AU

June 12th 2011 – Nibiru passes inside the orbit of Mars. More erratic weather patterns, increase in variance of temperatures, increase in melting of polar ice. Nibiru now visible at dusk and dawn

July 25th 2011 – Nibiru passes inside the orbit of Earth. Even more erratic weather patterns and increase in variance of temperatures, increase in melting of polar ice. Increase in volcanic eruptions and activity. Increase in Nibiru’s visibility; even in daylight.

Aug 12th 2011 – Nibiru passes inside the orbit of Venus Start to notice the gravitational effects: the pulling of our orbit into a shallower orbit and the retarding of our orbital speed. Our moon’s orbit becomes more ovoid creating larger tidal flows and coastal flooding. Increase in temperatures more prevalent, increase in storm activity as water is evaporated from the side of the earth facing the two suns, and it precipitates on the ‘dark’ side. Increase in tornadoes and hurricanes and their intensity. Nibiru closer to alignment with the sun and harder to see during the day, but very prominent at dusk and dawn. Possible near impacts or collisions of planets orbiting Nibiru with Earth or our moon from this date forward.

Aug 27th 2011 – Nibiru passes inside the orbit of Mercury. Start to notice the gravitational effects: the pulling of our orbit into a shallower orbit and the retarding of our orbital speed. Our moon’s orbit becomes more ovoid creating larger tidal flows and coastal flooding. Increase in temperatures more prevalent, increase in storm activity as water is evaporated from the side of the earth facing the two suns, and it precipitates on the ‘dark’ side. Increase in tornadoes and hurricanes and their intensity. Nibiru closer to alignment with the sun and harder to see during the day, but very prominent at dusk and dawn. Possible near impacts or collisions of planets orbiting Nibiru with Earth or our moon from this date forward.

Sept 1st 2011 – Increase in the gravitational effects: the pulling of our orbit into a shallower orbit. Our moon’s orbit becomes even more ovoid creating larger tidal flows and coastal flooding. Profound increase in volcanic activity. Increase in temperatures more prevalent, increase in storm activity as water is evaporated from the side of the earth facing the two suns, and it precipitates on the ‘dark’ side. Further increases in tornadoes and hurricanes and their intensity. Possible near impacts or collisions of planets orbiting Nibiru with Earth or our moon.

Sept 26th 2011 – Earth in direct alignment on same side of sun with Nibiru inside – 0.381 AU. Mercury & Venus opposite. This is 5 times closer than the March 11 quake and in direct alignment. Gravitation and heat work on an inverse square mathematical relationship, which means the effect on our planet, effect on the quakes is 25 times greater. Earth is also in the solar wind ‘shadow’ of Nibiru. Massive gravitational effects: the pulling of our orbit into an even shallower orbit. Our moon’s orbit becomes move ovoid creating massive tidal flows and coastal flooding. Numerous volcanic eruptions world wide. Increase in temperatures even more prevalent, further increase in storm activity as water is evaporated from the side of the earth facing the two suns, and it precipitates on the ‘dark’ side. Increasing numbers of tornadoes and hurricanes and their intensity. Most probable numerous massive earthquakes (at least 25 times greater than a 9 on the Richter scale); Japan to go under the ocean, LA and San Francisco earthquakes highly probable, New Zealand to be hit by major earthquakes and possibly go under the ocean. Probable eruption of the Yellowstone Supervolcano. Possible pacific plate to pop and rotate. Huge tsunami (at least three times as high as the Hollywood hills) to hit pacific rim, Phillippines, Asia, China, Alaska, US West Coast, South American West Coast, New Zealand and East Coast of Australia. Possible near impacts or collisions of planets orbiting Nibiru with Earth or our moon."

[loveandgratitude]

BUYER BEWARE...............He is asking for money. If you are doomed, how is money going to help him?

[Hervé]

Hey Guys, eventhough I've stated on this thread that I believe something positive will come from all of this Elenin stuff, I just want to give everyone a heads up about what 'Alexander Retrov' (Novelist, poet, channel, tarot card reader and expert on ancient Egypt & 2012) is warning in predictions he is making regarding Comet Elenin and the very important dates of August 17 and September 26, 2011


There will be a BIG earthquake on August 17th (+ or – a day) it may involve Japan, China, New Zealand, Los Angeles, Mt Vesuvius or Mt Etna, but I feel it will mainly be North America, between the Alusian Islands off Alaska, Seattle or San Francisco. On this date there is an alignment between Venus, the Sun, Mercury and the Earth, with Nibiru at right angles to the sun. I received this channeled information early in 2010 and mistakenly presumed it was for Aug 2010, Now it is clear it was for August 2011. Please tell everyone to warn their family and friends in these areas.

Video Link "2012 The TRUTH You're NOT being TOLD The clock runs out Sep 25th 2011 " (http://2012 The TRUTH You're NOT being TOLD The clock runs out Sep 25th 2011)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scZAOQNopok&feature=feedlik


Well, I have a 100% strong doubt about this guy's "sources" to be of anything based on facts.

Here is why:

* the object is named Nibiru whereas Nibiru doesn't exist and is only a figment of Sitchin's imagination( see Post # 650 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=272050&viewfull=1#post272050) as well as this one Post # 44 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24489-Was-Sitchin-wrong&p=257074&viewfull=1#post257074) in another thread)

* Elenin has a 1 million years orbital period, there about, and therefore cannot be blamed for the catastrophes of the past millenia

*How can a planet be at right angles [sic] to the Sun? Seems like another case of fitting the data to the theory.

* Elenin seems to have been assigned the role of the flying drunk, box-cutters holders of 9-11 infame as it seems to validate the Solar Capacitor/Electric Universe theories of which I gave an example in post # 751:


If geometry has anything to do with Elenin short-circuiting the Solar capacitor in accordance with McCanney and John H. Nelson (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/229308-Planetary-Alignments-and-the-Solar-Capacitor-Things-are-heatin-up-) then the following dates might prove of some interest:



[...]
ETA:

Looking at that JPL Elenin orbit, it seems there's an alignment Saturn-Elenin-Mercury-Sun-Jupiter square Earth around July 6-9... good days for healers and lightworkers to practice...


In that same vein, just eye-balling for a rough estimate, here are other "alignments" I noticed:

Aug. 13-17: Venus-Sun-Mercury-Earth square Elenin

Sept. 27 : Mercury-Sun-Elenin-Earth-Uranus square Mars

Oct. 2-6 : Saturn-Venus-Mercury-Sun-Elenin-Earth-Jupiter square Mars-(Sun)-Pluto

Nov. 8 : Venus-Mercury-Earth-Elenin square Mars-Sun-Neptune

Nov. 30 - Dec. 2 : Sun-Mercury-Earth-Elenin square Venus

Feb. 11-17: Sun-Venus-Elenin square Mars-Earth-(Sun)-Mercury-Neptune

The thing to remember is that J.H. Nelson worked with heliocentric coordinates.

Refer to: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/229308-Planetary-Alignments-and-the-Solar-Capacitor-Things-are-heatin-up-

Now revised (v. 0.2):

Aug. 17-20: Venus-Sun-Mercury-Earth square Elenin-(Sun)-(+/-Mars)

Sept. 25-27 : Mercury-Sun-Elenin-Earth-Uranus square Mars

Oct. 2-6 : Saturn-Venus-Mercury-Sun-Elenin-Earth-Jupiter square Mars-(Sun)-Pluto

Nov. 8 : Venus-Mercury-Earth-Elenin square Sun-Neptune

Nov. 30 - Dec. 2 : Sun-Mercury-Earth-Elenin square Venus

Dec.14-__: Mars-Mercury-Sun square Jupiter

Jan 1 - __: Saturn-Mercury-Sun square Earth

Feb. 11-17: Sun-Venus-Elenin square Mars-Earth-(Sun)-Mercury-Neptune

Oct. 12 - __: Mars-Mercury-Sun-Venus-Elenin square Uranus

I have a v. 0.3 somewhere around as well.

If you check this post (post # 20 in "The Horror of Fukushima (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?22084-Fukushima-Major-act-of-deliberate-war&p=243708&viewfull=1#post243708)) you may be able to realize there is a wide discrepancy between the recorded magnitude of the earth quake on Japanese seismometers (6.67) and the magnitude published by the MSM (9.0) as well as a location discrepancy. My take is that something was enhanced to justify the reality of a huge tsunami which is responsible for the vast majority of the damages, not the "colossal" earthquake itself.

Now, since puny comet Elenin hasn't fried Stereo Behind to charred smithereens when passing close by to it; it would at least indicate that if any capacitor was involved, that particular one got discharged a while ago and is now flat. In other words, you can now put your hands in the circuitry without getting zapped.

Seems like grounding should be the order of the day.

[Hervé]

I went to the website http://www.alexanderretrov.com/2012-talk/2012-background-details

Please note the predictions for dates already passed. To be honest, I feel a lot better now...

Good for you!




"Here are some key dates to do with ‘Elenin.’ which I will now refer to as Nibiru
Now... why do that?




AU is a measure of distance = distance of earth to sun = ~93 million miles.

Early Feb 2011 – Nibiru passed through the asteroid belt, picking up and dragging hundreds perhaps thousands of asteroids of various sizes in its gravitational wake.

[...]
Aug 12th 2011 – Nibiru passes inside the orbit of Venus Start to notice the gravitational effects: the pulling of our orbit into a shallower orbit and the retarding of our orbital speed. Our moon’s orbit becomes more ovoid creating larger tidal flows and coastal flooding. Increase in temperatures more prevalent, increase in storm activity as water is evaporated from the side of the earth facing the two suns, and it precipitates on the ‘dark’ side. Increase in tornadoes and hurricanes and their intensity. Nibiru closer to alignment with the sun and harder to see during the day, but very prominent at dusk and dawn. Possible near impacts or collisions of planets orbiting Nibiru with Earth or our moon from this date forward.

Etc....


Not sure why, but this sounds like the Zeta pranksters...

[yiolas]

......:)....and since I'm asking.......who or what is he alluding to when he mentions the blacked out section of Virgo on Google Sky? I didn't see anything blacked out nor did I see the winged-disk in Leo, although there are references on google to anomalies detected in Google sky recently. I could use a bit of good news after this doom and gloom. My oldest daughter is expecting her first child in December....so what I want are practical ideas about what to do...when to do it.....

blessings...kathy

Hi Kathy, without wanting to sound that I resonate with everything this guy says, the blacked out area in Google Earth has been common knowledge for a while now. Here is a picture of it taken from Andy Loyd's website (of dark star fame)
http://www.darkstar1.co.uk/google_virgo1.jpg

Here's a link to Andy's site http://www.darkstar1.co.uk/googleearth.html.

I can empathize with you, I'm waiting to become a first time granny as well.

Whatever happens on this 3d plane over the next days or months, I can't believe that we are here at this time just to find ourselves running to the hills from an impending tsunami or deadly solar flare. What we may be witnessing is the mechanics of the dissolution of our 3d reality. There's no harm in pausing for a while to watch the fireworks. Our real purpose here is to be present during the greatest shift in human consciousness ever ! Relax and join the party !

[The One]

I know another Person caliming to Know whats going to happen in 2012 but an interesting watch anyway

•800 FEMA CAMPS
•COFFINS FOR 40 MILLION ?
•1000 mph winds?
•12-15 magnitude earthquakes?
•Gamma radiation that will incinerate biological life?
•Massive tidal waves, Acid rain, all water on the surface drying up, volcanoes, toxic ash and pyroclastic explosions?

Dec 2012 or sooner? Yes much sooner, the clock runs out September 25th THIS YEAR. The truth the governments of the world are keeping from you. This seminar presented by Alex Retrov and Krystal Alexander-Hille will wake you up to the truth behind the 2012 doomsday prophecy. Dec 21st 2012 is a fake date created by the 'Illuminati' to catch us completely unprepared for the horrific events to come in September THIS YEAR . The clock runs out this year, NOT 2012. See the overwhelming evidence for yourself!

Personally there is a lot of stuff going on but i think we will all be here well past 2012.:flame:


scZAOQNopok

http://www.alexanderretrov.com/2012-talk/2012-background-details

I also believe any person who makes money from these predictions are false.

[Robstar]

My question to this people that predict this events, is what is the point?
So what?
How are you going to evade a calamity of that magnitude. It would be a miracle if you survived even one of those events. And would you want to survive in a world where most of people are dead and you have no means of surviving the destruction left behind.
I'm not giving in to defeatism here, but no matter how much food you store or how much you prepare the odds are you would not survive.
I'm looking at this Elenin in a whole new light thanks to people who are predicting the end.
So i choose to live my life to the fullest and love the people around me right now!
Whatever will be will be. So be it.
:rapture:

[crosby]

wow, this guy really has the doom and gloom going on. i like how he says that he isn't going to give the audience all of the information, so that they may be able to investigate for themselves and make up their own minds.....teehee....... no time left to do that......
regards, corson

[steveofengland]

I think we can say its safe by the 21st rather than close of business today. Sn a little more time to wait and see. Remember that fellow who came up with that published paper with his georesinator, didn't he say the effects would lessen the closer it got due to speed increase?

[greybeard]

I think grains of truth are to be found in several videos BUT!!!
I am wary of those with sounds-- or professional made videos.

Truth is simple and does not need sensationalism.
The Mayans are very positive about the future.

The only danger is that by some fluke one of these doomsters get one result/ correct prediction, then human nature being what it is we will believe all the rest.

Im not a follower of David Wilcock or anyone else for that matter but at least he is consistently positive.
Assuming ETs are making some of the crop circles I dont see why they would bother if it was bad news--- it would be totally pointless.

Thats my logical assumptions---- so there .:p

Be happy

Love Chris

[Hervé]

[...]
http://www.alexanderretrov.com/2012-talk/2012-background-details

I also believe any person who makes money from these predictions are false.

More opinions and analyses overthere: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=285893&viewfull=1#post285893

[The Truth Is In There]

thanks for the video yiolas! unfortunately it really sounds too good to be true. i guess we'll have to wait a little longer for the action to start but who knows? i'm all set. "let's get ready to rumble!" haha

[The Truth Is In There]

a bit of channelled info re elenin and nibiru. thanks to onawah (source & complete post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28047-Lauren-Gorgo-Wheel-of-Fortune-The-Turning-Point-2011-August-15)

[...]
“There is a significant cosmic event that is soon to take place that will herald the beginning of the new phase. This, of course, will not be understood by many, but will be regarded as the signal to begin the implementation phase by those with eyes to see…the awakened ones, those of indigenous cultures and self-run systems of governance. We also want to make it clear that this event is not to create a cataclysmic scenario as so many are predicting, but more of a recollection, an impression, an awareness by those who “rule” the world that there is MUCH more than meets the eye.” – Seven Sisters

I am hearing that this one event..and apparently there are few out-of-this-world discoveries on the way…but this one in particular is directly related to the DNA reconnection completion and the “firing” of our new human system. I imagine that this event is intimately connected to the well-known (and sensationalized) “comets” headed our way this month and next, but what’s interesting is that when I ask the Pleiadians about this they say that:

“There is a comet referenced that is actually not a comet at all, but a celestial body that houses a very advanced civilization. There is also that which many are calling ‘the comet of destruction’ but we assure you it is not in the way that most think. This comet is the prophesied “harbinger of peace”, and toward that end it will create changes and upheaval, but not in a way that will destroy the earth.”

What’s also interesting….besides the fact that no one has any solid idea of how all this will unfold…is that back in February, I received a message from a group of archangels who talked, in no uncertain terms, of the return of a 12th planet that they refer to as “Nibiru” (another target of sensationalism, so please refrain from hitting the panic-button) and how this directly impacts our 12th dimensional consciousness. They mentioned that:

…“in the coming days, there will be even greater awareness of the implications of Nibiru’s presence in your solar system, and those who have fully reconnected and activated their 12th dimensional human-galactic genetics will be brought into alignment with the energies and beings from this celestial body.”

They also mentioned that:

“… the yet-to-be-officially-discovered-planet is, in large part, responsible for setting the new consciousness course for humanity, and will enable the 12th dimensional field of perceptual reality to be projected into form…a dimension which they refer to as the field of mind-body connection.

Like all planets, this ‘new’ planet on its way to our awareness is the macrocosmic expression of our microcosmic experience on earth….the 12th dimensional cosmic interplay required for the full integration of spirit into physical form.”

And from their perspective, that all connects thru the understanding that:

…”there are 12 fundamental spiritual energies in our universe which seek a physical expression. This expression (where a planetary energy operates or is released in our lives) is accomplished thru 12 zodiac signs, 12 astrological houses and 12 planets. And just as each of the 12 astrological houses has its own ruling planet, meaning and associated zodiac sign… each of our chakras have their own ruling planet, meaning and associated zodiac sign. These 12 cosmic/celestial energies…the vital forces of existence… are expressed thru the human body via 12 chakras which connect to the 12 strands of activated DNA in the new-human template, or the original divine-human blueprint…and each of the 12 strands of our DNA correlates to one of the twelve aspects of multi-dimensional consciousness, or perceptual fields of awareness.”

In other words, I am told that these (prophesied) events…however they unfold and whatever they are called…herald the the beginning of cosmic consciousness, the entrance into spiritual adulthood/galactic citizenship both for the planet and for those who are leading the planet to this destination, and all “happen” to take place right around the end of the 9th wave and the completion of the Mayan Calendar (10/28/11).

And just to stretch you a bit further, this cosmic event that they refer to will supposedly have “a major impact on the magnetic grid, so much so that a reversal of polarity will take place…but not in the way that has been aggrandized.” My feeling is that this is not necessarily an electromagnetic pole shift as some believe, but a shift in the polarity of consciousness.
[...]

[Calz]

The One:



•800 FEMA CAMPS
•COFFINS FOR 40 MILLION ?
•1000 mph winds?
•12-15 magnitude earthquakes?
•Gamma radiation that will incinerate biological life?
•Massive tidal waves, Acid rain, all water on the surface drying up, volcanoes, toxic ash and pyroclastic explosions?



Certainty of death ...

Small chance for success ...

WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR???


9429

[Hervé]

I am stealing this from Shadowstalker at: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28103-True-Mayan-Elder-s-Prediction-of-2012&p=286228&viewfull=1#post286228


A Mayan Elder gives the inside prediction of the ending wheels of the Mayan calendar on dec 2012


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwysQiRaRgE&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwysQiRaRgE&NR=1

... keep it simple...

[The One]

Mods please merge this post with this one Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

Many Thanks

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Ella]

He predicts an earthquake for today, August 17th. So I guess we'll know soon how correct his information is.

[Carolin]

I just finished the video, quite disturbing.... he said Lake Titicaca is (was?) a water salted lake bt I think this tidbit is wrong, to my knowledge, Titicaca is not salted water.

I was curious too. I found this online..........

The largest tropical lake in the world, Titicaca is enormous. It covers an area of 8,000 square kilometres and is 170 kilometres long and 65 kilometres wide. But what we see today is just the vestige of what was once a huge inland body of water, known to geologists as the Humboldt Sea. This great sea covered what is now the altiplano, from La Raya to Uyuni, and lakes like Poopo and Coipasa in Bolivia are, quite literally, the puddles it left behind as it evaporated. These continue to be fed by rivers, nourished in turn by the meltwaters of the Andes.

This immense body of water was formed by tectonic movements. When the Nasca plate met the Andes plate, the latter was pushed up to form the world's longest mountain chain and, between its eastern and western ranges, what was once the ocean floor became the altiplano, covered still by sea water.

Today, Titicaca has a salt content of just 0.1% and is designated a fresh water lake. Five rivers drain into the lake and just one flows out. This river, the Desaguadero, carries some of Titicaca's waters far to the south-east, where they form the salt flats of Uyuni and Coipasa. Thus, Bolivia's Salar de Uyuni continues to grow as Lake Titicaca shrinks.

However, Titicaca loses most of its water through evaporation and it is this process which, over millennia, is causing the lake to disappear. Just eight thousand years ago, Titicaca was 10 metres deeper than it is now and this process of extinction seems to have accelerated in recent years.

[syrwong]

There is evidence the Japan quake was not a big one, the main damges were from the tsunami and the nuclear disaster. This casts severe doubt on the Elenin alignment theory. Oh! Is there going to be something happening in the next few hours? This will be the last verification before we all perish next month.

[Maia Gabrial]

Today is August 17th....So far, nothing....

[steveofengland]

Have you seen all the earthquake videos from Japan? it has not stopped shaking since march.

[kathymarie]

Thank you, Yiola....congratulations to you as well..... I needed to hear (I mean read) this. I totally agree with you from my whole heart....sometimes my head doesn't follow suit as quickly.

Blessings....

......:)....and since I'm asking.......who or what is he alluding to when he mentions the blacked out section of Virgo on Google Sky? I didn't see anything blacked out nor did I see the winged-disk in Leo, although there are references on google to anomalies detected in Google sky recently. I could use a bit of good news after this doom and gloom. My oldest daughter is expecting her first child in December....so what I want are practical ideas about what to do...when to do it.....

blessings...kathy

Hi Kathy, without wanting to sound that I resonate with everything this guy says, the blacked out area in Google Earth has been common knowledge for a while now. Here is a picture of it taken from Andy Loyd's website (of dark star fame)
http://www.darkstar1.co.uk/google_virgo1.jpg

Here's a link to Andy's site http://www.darkstar1.co.uk/googleearth.html.

I can empathize with you, I'm waiting to become a first time granny as well.

Whatever happens on this 3d plane over the next days or months, I can't believe that we are here at this time just to find ourselves running to the hills from an impending tsunami or deadly solar flare. What we may be witnessing is the mechanics of the dissolution of our 3d reality. There's no harm in pausing for a while to watch the fireworks. Our real purpose here is to be present during the greatest shift in human consciousness ever ! Relax and join the party !

[greybeard]

Space weather and spirituality
Its slightly of topic but at least it is mainly positive.

Chris



http://www.susanrennison.com/

[Ian Gordon]

Chris, just to back you upI have just watched the susan Rennison video and recomend those interested view her work for a really good suming up of current events.

http://www.youtube.com/user/infopowerment or http://www.susanrennison.com

Also in " 01-11 It Will Blow Your Mind! What Nasa & Esa Do Not Want You To Know 2011" thread in books etc link http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28137-01-11-It-Will-Blow-Your-Mind--What-Nasa-Esa-Do-Not-Want-You-To-Know-2011

[greybeard]

The latest NASSA version of the truth.
Chris

http://news.discovery.com/space/comet-elenin-wont-kill-us-says-nasa-110817.html

[loveandgratitude]

The latest NASSA version of the truth.
Chris

http://news.discovery.com/space/comet-elenin-wont-kill-us-says-nasa-110817.html

Well finally, that took awhile. Why did they wait this long, was it to fuel the hype and fear?

[cloud9]

The guy in the video also says something like: have you seen the dark side of the moon? It full of meteorite impacts because it has shielded us in the past (not exact words, just what I remember). The funny thing is that we (regular folks) haven't seen the dark side of the moon... honestly!
He said it like it is there for everyone to see...

[Operator]

Well finally, that took awhile. Why did they wait this long, was it to fuel the hype and fear?

No, they had to wait for Space Command to return ... they get their questions answered by them too ... (sorry couldn't resist). :p

[Hervé]

Space weather and spirituality
Its slightly of topic but at least it is mainly positive.

Chris



http://www.susanrennison.com/

Thanks Chris!

here are the links to Susan's lectures:

http://collegerama.tudelft.nl/mediasite/SilverlightPlayer/Default.aspx?peid=c29550a872814c2a9e7ba28ac0c7d1e61d

http://collegerama.tudelft.nl/mediasite/SilverlightPlayer/Default.aspx?peid=35db8f210f224262b3dc5e939f4e7a651d

[Zepheriah]

Not sure if this has been up here before, but i present to you

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/alert-cnn-news-2011-niburu-is-real-planet-x-nemesis-throwing-comets-our-way-video

Enjoy!

[Hervé]

Not sure if this has been up here before, but i present to you

http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/alert-cnn-news-2011-niburu-is-real-planet-x-nemesis-throwing-comets-our-way-video

Enjoy!


See : Is it Comet Elenin? Is it Nibiru? Elenin Updates.

Starting at:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=284300&viewfull=1#post284300

[Zepheriah]

Thank you my friend, i'd missed that!

[jcocks]

Well finally, that took awhile. Why did they wait this long, was it to fuel the hype and fear?

No, they had to wait for Space Command to return ... they get their questions answered by them too ... (sorry couldn't resist). :p

Biggest secret of TPTB : BUZZ LIGHTYEAR IS REAL!!! :D

Sorry...couldn't resist either :)

[kathymarie]

Here is yet another video...but I believe it's worth watching....tell me what you think.

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[Calz]

Here is yet another video...but I believe it's worth watching....tell me what you think.




Was going to post that ... you beat me to it.

It was distributed by Gilliland email group (at least that is where I saw it).

Interesting footage.

[Ian Gordon]

Very interesting, I must admit I was really uncertain of the the Nibiru theory and believed that Elenin was a comet, although not normal, and possible the Red Karinicha (sp?). The Earth events I had rationalised as caused by the electric universe theory believing that the forthcoming events would escalate to a maximum when we come in line with the Galatic centre, however this has me rethinking.
If this has been seen so clearly surely someone else has also investigated and got the same info, this must be varified.
Also isnt this doctor/ astromer linked with Terrol03??

[Calz]

Video was using the Saturn images (allegedly 90 degree shift) without going into specifics.

The venting in California is hard to ignore however.

[IndigoStar]

I confess I haven't read all the posts on this thread but I thought you might like these videos... (apologies if they've already been posted!)

EnMqEaQ0slE

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/07/RIR-110726.php

[Ian Gordon]

The Earth effects, weather, lights, sink holes, animal deaths can all be explained by electric theory as can the increase in earth quakes and volcanic activity.
If you consider the increased energy that is hitting the Earth is passing into the core and Susan Rennison states that NASA have measured the amount of energy entering the Earth at the poles, and it has vastly increased. If so it would energise the core and IMHO would try to escape hence any existing weak spots ie volcanoes and fault lines would come under increased pressure and hence show increased activity.
As you say the increase venting can not be missed, but is the cause Electric, Magnetic, Nibiru, Elenin or the forthcoming comsic centre alignment, you pays your money and takes your choice. However, the ancient Chinese said it was a curse to live in interesting times.....these times are way too interesting for my liking!!
All we can do is ensure we have plenty of love, faith in the divine path, Dao or whatever you wish to call it, and no fear.
Love and light

[Ian Gordon]

Thank you Indigo star, I had not come across that one, once again interesting but it is becoming increasingly difficult to distinguish fsct from misinfomation IMHO.
Thank you

[Camilo]

Thursday, August 18, 2011

Your Help is Requested
Co-creating in the next days needs active love energy that you produce. All of you, not just a few, can make the light very bright now. God has deleted the dark, negative influences that he/she created to deliver unsuspected teachings about negative influences. What this means, is the end of managed influences in your energy field. Can they all be gone? Yes, God can do anything.

Many collective energies have been disbursed, so heart light can only be deleted by those living human lives. No more negative dictations to the mental body are coming to any of you. No more negative attitudes are being energized in your aura. No more answers that confuse are being delivered. You are now completely able to live the life you choose to live. Not that any circumstances will automatically alter themselves - altered circumstances will only occur when consciousness demands them to. Will the ability to change all circumstances be equal? No, some circumstances will require many of like mind and less will be needed for others.

Your minds are being asked to contribute intention. Your bodies are needed to anchor light. Your hearts can light up entire areas by only giving an ok to our realm to bring in the energy. Are you able to give us this go ahead? Are you able to let go of the fear you have about this non-invasive co-creation? No one will be "overshadowed" by an Angel or Ascended Master – only divine light will come into the crown chakra to be grounded in the body's cells. Radiating this light depends on how clear one is in the absence of external influences. Can you completely empty the mental and emotional bodies as a test of this magnitude takes place? Can we do this together?

No dates or times will be given. Consider this an ongoing call. Identify the mental body's concerns and ask God to answer them. Are holding on to these concerns worth giving up an opportunity to Awaken? My comments about giving up your concerns can delete them in the answer God gives.

Your mental intention is most important. Focus on the light to be delivered to the entire galaxy through this little experiment. Purify your non-aligned thinking with Oms or another mantra that clears the mind. You can also hum a melody that has caring tones. As this melody enters the current mass consciousness, be aware of the atmosphere in the next days – as light from all over the galaxy will come to a mass of humans in gravity in a way that has never completely been accomplished before.

We are attempting to do this to avoid the effects of the comet detonation that could destroy human beings on the continents where they live. We are asking you to help us divert the fragments that could elevate a crises of comet destruction that comes next. Please do not go into fear. Nothing can destroy your domain unless you cannot become a beacon of light as I have just asked.

Clear the mind of all your comet concerns. Allow the body a good dose of accelerated transformation in the light of God's creative answer to your human intention. Be a warrior and tell God you want to be an anchor for divine love NOW!

Meditate whenever you can. Not to draw the light but rather, to be a clear vessel when it comes. No experience is needed for this work – only delivery of an agreement to be the light of your own divine nature.

An apparition may appear during this experiment. Consider it another message from God.

Chelas, can we count on you? Can this request be disseminated to as many light workers as can be contacted? We must act at once. In the density you are now in, a comet can deliver a major calamity. In a higher vibration it can be less destructive. Please turn on your light.

I AM THAT I AM
Ascended Master Saint Germain
Channeled by Aruna

[greybeard]

Anyone here speak Russian?
The video posted by Indigo Star seems valid enough.
Regardless humans survived past events and 3600 years is not that much so I wonder that we dont have more historic information.
A massive event 3600 year ago I feel would have been more clearly documented by survivors.

Chris

[nearing]

The #921 video doesn't play even at YT for me. Anyone else?

[freespirit]

Unsure whether this has flashed up on your elenin radar, so forgive me if you know already.

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http://freedomslips.com/revolutionradio "Collision Course" 8-10PM tonight

[Maia Gabrial]

The blacked out areas always makes things look suspicious. What they hiding?

[greybeard]

I confess I haven't read all the posts on this thread but I thought you might like these videos... (apologies if they've already been posted!)

EnMqEaQ0slE

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/07/RIR-110726.php

A friend has validated the translation.
The News part seems valid but here is the question
Is the rest of it a documentary or a Russian U tuber?
Not that that validates or invalidates the content

Thoughts welcome

Chris

[Hervé]

I confess I haven't read all the posts on this thread

See post # 650 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=272050&viewfull=1#post272050)

See also this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24489-Was-Sitchin-wrong&p=257074&viewfull=1#post257074).


but I thought you might like these videos... (apologies if they've already been posted!)

EnMqEaQ0slE

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/07/RIR-110726.php


Right in your face: The starting lie/propaganda point that makes the rest believable to the uneducated:

"Famous American scientist"...

... don't you see it?

... waiting for it ?

"Scientist!" Zecharia Sitchin was neither scientist nor scholar! Never been! All his heavily promoted work is filed under the "Fiction" section in any library.

Most if not all his writings were done through automatic writing:


--------

Dear All,

[...]

One veteran researcher, who Kerry Cassidy and I also know personally, knew Zecharia Sitchin very well. This person told us that Zecharia had told him that his books were NOT translated from the Sumerian - but were actually channeled products of automatic writing.

We were also told that Zecharia Sitchin was paid on a retainer basis by the NSA, who always wanted to be kept up to date by Sitchin about what the Anunnaki were up to - because it seemed that Sitchin had a direct telepathic line to the Anunnaki in real time. (Note: there is quite a lot in Sitchin's books that is certainly disinformation - possibly deliberately inserted by the Anunnaki themselves). But quite a lot of the basic story is probably quite true.




Bill Ryan
Project Avalon
April 2011



:frusty::moil:

[greybeard]

How about this one Amzer Zo?
We seem to have experts and book writers coming out of the woods.
I rely on others to validate or not as the case might be.
Regards Chris


http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/russian-astronaut-popovich-ets-warn-cataclysms-will-unify-human-consciousness

[Hervé]

How about this one Amzer Zo?
We seem to have experts and book writers coming out of the woods.
I rely on others to validate or not as the case might be.
Regards Chris


http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/russian-astronaut-popovich-ets-warn-cataclysms-will-unify-human-consciousness

Thanks Chris!

If you read that article, here is one for starter:


The scientists claim a catastrophic seismic event will emanate from the west coast of Peru in the area of the Brazilian Magnetic Anomaly at the intersection of the Humboldt and the El Nino currents in the Pacific Ocean. An area of the United States from the Gulf of Mexico to the Great Lakes will be inundated as a result of a tsunami.

Continue reading on Examiner.com Russian cosmonaut Popovich: ETs warn Cataclysms will unify human consciousness - Seattle exopolitics | Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/russian-astronaut-popovich-ets-warn-cataclysms-will-unify-human-consciousness#ixzz1VQ57YekP) http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/russian-astronaut-popovich-ets-warn-cataclysms-will-unify-human-consciousness#ixzz1VQ57YekP

Now if you look at a map of the area or use Google Earth, let me know if you manage to get your brain quit squeaking...

These guys sure have credentials. However, remember the strange behaviour of the US astronauts when about to talk of certain things... some had to leave the conference rooms to get fresh air... mind controlled!

I suspect not much difference from that other side of the world in view of who controls both sides (see this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25102-For-an-idea-on-the-big-picture&p=261690&viewfull=1#post261690)).

As well, a reminder:

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[greybeard]

Thanks Amzer Zo.
I am perhaps some what gullible.
I still expect people with some experience and authority to have integrity.

Chris

[Adem]

Check this out

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[Mandala]

This is channeled information and claims to come from Mythi, an alien from Andromeda.
This is the appropriate posting place for it, but some people involved with the "Is it Elenin? Is it Nibiru?" might also find the information interesting.

It covers the speeding up of Nibiru, its early arrival, the grid going down and lack of communication in the near future. It also discusses the strange sounds being heard in Russia and other parts of the planet. The video says its a portal opening because aliens are getting the hell out of here and taking their equipment with them.

You listen and make the judgement call for yourself about its validity or BS level. I would like to hear some feedback.
Thanks, Mandala



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo_BcgdDfaQ

[cloud9]

Anyone here speak Russian?
The video posted by Indigo Star seems valid enough.
Regardless humans survived past events and 3600 years is not that much so I wonder that we dont have more historic information.
A massive event 3600 year ago I feel would have been more clearly documented by survivors.

Chris


I absolutely agree and I've thought of that too, but as some say, everything depends on what side of the orbit we are when Nibiru comes by, we can meet or not.

[Mandala]

This is channeled information and claims to come from Mythi, an alien from Andromeda.

The appropriate posting place for it is in "Channeled Information", so that is where I placed it.

Some people involved with the "Is it Elenin? Is it Nibiru?" might also find the information interesting. It begins with not so good news.

It covers the speeding up of Nibiru, its early arrival, the grid going down and lack of communication in the near future. It also discusses the strange sounds being heard in Russia and other parts of the planet. The video says the sound is a portal opening, because aliens are getting the hell out of here, and taking their equipment with them.

The name CB when mentioned, I assume is Captain Bill from Brazil.

You listen and make the judgement call for yourself about its validity or BS level. I would like to hear some feedback.

Thanks, Mandala

The location of the channeled thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28258-Answer-from-Alien-about-Nibiru-and-Elenin&p=287489#post287489

The actual you tube link if you wish to go straight to it.
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Okay, I can't post just the link, it is automatically embedding in the thread.
I apologize, I've never had this happen.

[Hervé]

Thanks Amzer Zo.
I am perhaps some what gullible.
I still expect people with some experience and authority to have integrity.

Chris

Chris, they are selling books...

[Darla Ken Pearce]

This is an interesting video ; ) It is not from Galactics ~ it is alien all right but those who worked with dark forces and not the ones we are interested in at all. The noises are man-made also, as is this video. One needs a new rosette stone to translate it into English. It's not even a good attempt to fake out Celestial beings and it doesn't ring true.

Arcturian Mother Ships make no noise whatsoever. Not a sound or a peep. They can be right overhead and you'd never have a clue. They can be seen or not depending on if they want to be seen. You cannot even imagine the technology they have, it is so many 100,000's years more advanced than the aliens working with our government. There is no contest between an Alien Being and a Celestial Being whatsoever.

Those who mix them up, do so because they have never met them. If any contest begins, and there are many we aren't privy to at present but will know about later, we will have ring side seats for the show. Get your popcorn ready.

In addition, there is no comparison to the technologies of one over the other. One thing for sure is that Arcturians are NOT leaving Earth, they will be here through Earth's ascension and beyond as will Sirians, Pleiadians, and many others who are in this for the long haul. Ascension.

This is what is happening now and it is what happens next here. It's their job to assist in Earth's ascension and as many others who want to ascend along with her, they are facilitators of Ascension. It's why they are here now and for no other reason. Nothing will change this fact. Like it or not.

And to say they are evacuating, well, evacuating what ~ those are the less advanced aliens who have been living underground. They are not being allowed to leave at this point in time nor are the dark ones, they missed their window of opportunity and now it's too late for them unless some special dispensation can be made on their behalf. They had ample time to resign and stop their activities.

After watching this video, it makes me grateful our channels from Celestial beings speak English and not some Russian attempt at disinformation or whatever this is ~ some of it sounded plausible to me but then it went off the rails in parts that were obviously not well informed at all. I say this because we are being advised on practically a daily basis and any other information that is foreign is coming possibly from Zeta Reticuli's or others not yet identified here.

They use the names of real heavenly hosts and planetary helpers but do not qualify as such themselves, just based on this information which is suspect. One thing about the New Golden Age we are entering into now is that the days of secrecy and shadow governments and agencies are over and done.

No secrets are possible, no lies possible, and any agency that hides behind subterfuge like this video does cannot be of the light. Mercury melting into the Sun ~ okay if I can just stop laughing now and wrap my thoughts up. Ahem...

By the way, those noises are, no doubt, the Russians and others moving into the underground cities using bulldozers to close the gates and move furniture around in their attempt to save themselves from the Big Bad Dwarf looming towards Earth. I don't really know what this attempt is about but I do know it's not from any Galactics we would ever want to know better. And so it is...

[Flasky]

....I don't know what to think of this. And of the sounds in the air...They are really packing up and leaving us to our own misery sounds like.

Update

Just read your post Darla...Thanks for writing that it really settled me. I felt very odd about the message and the sounds creep me out and it just felt odd, odd, odd.

Now I get why but thanks to you! Sigh, we all need a Darla in our life..! :photo:

[Darla Ken Pearce]

What a sweet thing to say! Much love! xoxoxox

[vibrations]

I postet this video yesterday at 23.0GMT
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28247-Atlanticobr-Video-58

and was much surprised nobody react. maybe the title should be more sensational, who knows. to me it is quite important information reveling a few things actually in a center of the attention.

[loveandgratitude]

Do not listen to this sound. This is some sort of mind control frequency. Not pleasant at all. They are tricking people into listening to it.
If something is not pleasant then it is not from the higher dimensions. Tune into your own love, love of self, love for humanity and love of the divine. This will conquer fear easily and quickly.

[freespirit]

Check this out

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Wow that was intense !, more of that please.
Everybody should hear that, thanks Adem

[jcocks]

I *LOVED* listening to that show before they started charging people to listen over the 'net....

Especially the "time-traveller" call-in sessions they would regularly run - they were really interesting to listen to (although whether there was even one speck of truth to them is a point of contention)...

[bennycog]

hey mandala.. to me it seems they are taking responsibilites of things after they happen to try and get you onboard with the information that they tell you..
also at the end when it talks about the black rock of communication.... that is from the movie called "knowing", that movie does seem like the writers know something because it actually involves aliens coming to save people from a huge CME.. But are they using the movie to further suck us in :( sorry if i am so distrusting lately..
but the dots can be connected backwards too

[greybeard]

Questions are being asked on TV news programs now, so we may get more valid information coming out.
Lets hope.
Chris



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWO6NcGBK3k&feature=player_embedded

[greybeard]

Part two and three are really getting into the subject.

I would go direct to part two

Chris

ps
There is a fair amount of logic and some expertise in the talk but in essence Elenin did not come from the places comets usually spring from
and is not behaving like a comet, if it was, numerous photos would have been possible by now.
Its orbit is too long to be a normal orbit around the sun.

So thats the essence of it.

C


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pjEIbMIaCg&feature=player_embedded




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2tdbT2AcoM&feature=related

[yiolas]

Hi Guys, Terral is on Freedomslips Radio right now (6 pm est) talking about Elenin. It's sounding like a great interview.

Here's the link. http://www.freedomslips.com/

[onawah]

Just my opinion, but I would say that is just the kind of thing that prompted Bill Ryan to put the disclaimer on the Channeled Information Forum.

[yorganh]

9/11 Is a new light maybee a blue beem

[yorganh]

Is elenin 33$ dollars, Know your enemy.

[yiolas]

Is elenin 33$ dollars, Know your enemy.

It's free to listen live.

[Hervé]

Hi Guys, Terral is on Freedomslips Radio right now (6 pm est) talking about Elenin. It's sounding like a great interview.

Here's the link. http://www.freedomslips.com/

Hi yiolas!

Please, check these posts out:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=275910&viewfull=1#post275910

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=275921&viewfull=1#post275921

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=277002&viewfull=1#post277002

They might give you an idea of what that Terral03 character is all about and what agenda he is pushing?

[Hervé]

Speaking of agenda...

This video clearly demonstrates what's occurring in both MSM and alternative media:

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Some people are really pushing it hard, aren't they?

Anyone has any questions as to which category R.C. Hoagland and the likes fall in?

[Referee]

Well I am unsure of any channeled information. It is not that I do not believe it can be true. It is that I do not have much experience with it. Being formally schooled in biology I tend to be a skeptic. I am working on opening my mind to these new ideas.

However, I ran across this today and sounds almost the same as the sounds in Russia in the above video, whatever that means. :confused:

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[ghostrider]

Questions are being asked on TV news programs now, so we may get more valid information coming out.
Lets hope.
Chris



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWO6NcGBK3k&feature=player_embedded

this brooks guy is a reptilian, watch his eyes during his presentation....

[dddanieljjjamesss]

What I see happening here is that, regardless of what we on Earth plan, our ET relatives are returning en masse during this time.
Sure, they'll try to spin it towards fear, but the NWO is a being that cannot survive the shift towards a TYPE1 civilization, as to be truly TYPE1 we have to be bound in unity as a whole planet.
That's why the NWO are the terrorists.

I don't know, to me it's coming pretty clear now.

[steveofengland]

So does the 7.5 plus the other 5.5 and up earthquakes near Australia count towards what that guy was talking about?
I think we can say its safe by the 21st rather than close of business today. Sn a little more time to wait and see. Remember that fellow who came up with that published paper with his georesinator, didn't he say the effects would lessen the closer it got due to speed increase?

[vibrations]

I would prefer not to talk about Type 1, 2 , 3 etc civilizations. Why?

What I see happening here is that, regardless of what we on Earth plan, our ET relatives are returning en masse during this time.
Sure, they'll try to spin it towards fear, but the NWO is a being that cannot survive the shift towards a TYPE1 civilization, as to be truly TYPE1 we have to be bound in unity as a whole planet.
That's why the NWO are the terrorists.

I don't know, to me it's coming pretty clear now.

Michio Kaku talks about civilizations Type like talking about different sizes of Superstore where American Marketing industry will sell us more Paris Hilton stuff.

For me the future is in constructing every day new step closer to the happiness, working what you like and not having to pay to be alive.

All this information coming from everywhere is hard to be believed, but there is so much of it, that there are some clues and actual info berried in it, so let's dig and with a help of intuition and common sense feel what could it be.

[steveofengland]

Another 7.0 in the eastern Australia region in the last 20 mins.

[Mutchie]

ANOTHER 7.5 QUAKE JUST HAPPENED A WEE WHILE AGO IN THE WESTERN PACIFIC reported by DUTCHSINCE.....

PLEASE WATCH THIS GUYS TALK IT BLEW MY MIND.............
http://youtu.be/scZAOQNopok

:confused:if what this guy says is going to happen we are headed for extinction:confused:

[araucaria]

ANOTHER 7.5 QUAKE JUST HAPPENED A WEE WHILE AGO IN THE WESTERN PACIFIC reported by DUTCHSINCE.....

PLEASE WATCH THIS GUYS TALK IT BLEW MY MIND.............
http://youtu.be/scZAOQNopok

:confused:if what this guy says is going to happen we are headed for extinction:confused:

Wasn't this the guy who warned of huge earthquakes on 17th August, notably in the US? Don't remember reading about them

[Mutchie]

im not sure but there is a lot going on and if even some of the stuff happens we are in the doo doo

¤=[Post Update]=¤

People all over the net are posting coordinates for nibiru in the constelation leo when you type them in it takes you to a large red planet which is huge

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

im not sure but there is a lot going on and if even some of the stuff happens we are in the doo doo

¤=[Post Update]=¤

People all over the net are posting coordinates for nibiru in the constelation leo when you type them in it takes you to a large red planet which is huge

Hi
Have you a link or the coordinates please?

[greybeard]

At the moment what have we got?
A lot of speculation, a lot of opinions, but little fact on Elenin.
Yes we have Earth changes, all the earth quakes, volcanic activity and strange weather.
But I suggest we should look at the positive predictions, also there is some scientific evidence of new energy coming from the Sun which may well positively affect our DNA.
Its a waiting game but keeping the personal energy high is best option and we can do that.
Fear is not an option.
People who survived "disasters" when others did not were interviewed and the great majority, who made it, had asked for help via prayer.
I sincerely hope Elenin etc will be a minor event and it may well be.
Best wishes to all who read this
Chris

[hexenomega]

its just chinese lanterns, don't worry about it

[kathymarie]

..yes...same guy...Alex Retrov.....Of course...we almost sound disappointed that he was wrong. At least about the 17th date....


ANOTHER 7.5 QUAKE JUST HAPPENED A WEE WHILE AGO IN THE WESTERN PACIFIC reported by DUTCHSINCE.....

PLEASE WATCH THIS GUYS TALK IT BLEW MY MIND.............
http://youtu.be/scZAOQNopok

:confused:if what this guy says is going to happen we are headed for extinction:confused:

Wasn't this the guy who warned of huge earthquakes on 17th August, notably in the US? Don't remember reading about them

[Mutchie]

9hours47mins57.30seconds+13degrees16ft.44inches constelation LEO 11hours21mins15.36secs+03degrees36ft26.6inches

one is nibiru & the other is elenin

[greybeard]

Usual disclaimer from me.
I dont know whether this is valid or not.
This is the original link but I cant get it to load from here.
So go to the second one

Ch

illuminious






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyn_c0lecUI&feature=player_embedded

[Mutchie]

the quakes are really ramping up lately something HAS to be causing it.......and now SUDDENLY we have Cnn and others releasing bulletins on the chances of a brown dwarf being on the outskirts of our solar system. My mind keeps twigging WHAT IF ITS REAL over n over NAH CANT BE then you see more articles & more posts - Know this Thousands upon thousands of folks are worried sick over this !!!

[greybeard]

the quakes are really ramping up lately something HAS to be causing it.......and now SUDDENLY we have Cnn and others releasing bulletins on the chances of a brown dwarf being on the outskirts of our solar system. My mind keeps twigging WHAT IF ITS REAL over n over NAH CANT BE then you see more articles & more posts - Know this Thousands upon thousands of folks are worried sick over this !!!

Mutchie can I suggest you do your self a big favor -- read "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle.
There is no problem in this moment--- the future is assumption and supposition, an unknown.
Thousands die every day thousands are born every day.
Once you know you are not the body what is there to worry about?
We will be just fine.
Best wishes
Chris

[steveofengland]

Yeah that was the guy. But the 17th was his guess, wasn't that the first date of the conjunction. I believe the alignment window was between the 17th and the 21st? And today has seen two 7+ earthquakes along with at least five 5+ Quakes and maybe more to Come? surely not another coincidence? Maybe the guy was right?

[Carolin]

There is a window of 3 days before the alignment and 3 days after. I would have to say Alexander Retrov called it!!! A 7.5 (I saw somewhere else it was a 7.8), 7.4 & a 7.0 and a crap load of 5's. This should be a warning for us to get it together......there will be no other warnings before the September 26th alignment.

Eat what you want, say what you feel and live life to the fullest!!

[Hervé]

9hours47mins57.30seconds+13degrees16ft.44inches constelation LEO 11hours21mins15.36secs+03degrees36ft26.6inches

one is nibiru & the other is elenin

Mutchie... I am just appalled:


Definitely the janitor!

Nearing I have to agree with you.

The guy doesn't know S**t about coordinates as he is mixing feet (') and inches (") with fractions of a degree of arc: minutes (') and seconds ("). I listen to his second reading of coordinates to make sure I wasn't hallucinating then exited the video: not worth listening further.

He definitely is a clown :jester: of the first order :first:.

He got both his feet through and through in one single shot! Outed himself on that one.



Considering he was reading coordinates of something given in X0 Y' Z" means someone is feeding him data and therefore either using him for disinfo or playing a prank on him.

[ghostrider]

the US government , has done just enough to keep things going till elenin/nukes/volcanoes/tidal waves/pole shift breaks loose on us in about four to five weeks. Nothing will be the same, Get away from the coast, get away from big cities, store up bottle water, and food for at least six months, there will be no electricity, chaos will ensue, people will panic and loose their minds for food and shelter. I will keep saying this until sep 26th this year. My fellow avalonians, no matter your view on what's coming, comet/planet/dwarf star/nibiru/transformation/end of a cycle/ the PTB are gonna unleash the nukes, blow the dams, scorch the skies, and run underground and close the bunker DOOR. we are on our own. Get my point? if elenin passes with no affect, our PTB are gonna use it for an end of the world situation anyway, this is the moment for the D.U.M.B.S. underground cities built two a year for fifty years. they have known about nibiru for 50 years ! This is game over on the world as we know it. forget fearmongering and doom and gloom, JUST PREPARE FOR NO ELECTRIC, AND MAKE YOUR OWN FOOD AND AVOID RIOTS. it's about to fall apart fast, wakey wakey wakey= prepare now for no power, disorder, chaos, and our government gone for good UNDERGROUND. what will you do? learn to be self sufficient, stock up on bottle water, and beef jerky will keep a long time , when your hungry your body will crave meat first. You will need something to keep your things dry, stuff ruins quickly when it gets wet, imagne being stuck in the woods, FOOD WATER SHELTER, HIGH AND DRY WITH NO POWER - NIGHTIME WILL HAVE A NEW MEANING. stay away from crowds and the military, you get caught and sent to a fema camp, and the beartrap closes, you won't be allowed to leave once they have you. This is game over, millions will die, the strong and the prudent will survive. Get your mind right, now, today ,prepare, watch, lots of government planes will be flying over, talking heads and tv politicians will start acting very weird, why? cause the real person is gone UNDERGROUND , your looking at a clone/robot, there to keep the masses entranced just long enough for the goons to make final preperations before it's off to the DEEP UNDERGROUND MILITARY BASES. Get real, they know about the chaos, why do you think they would build entire cities two miles underground for 50 years bankrupting the economy, starting wars to keep the cash flow coming. oh the UNDERGROUND CITIES are connected by railcars- hmmmm no NEED TO GO TO THE SURFACE? permantly underground for two years maybe? two years of never being topside? THIS IS AS REAL AS IT GETS. ARMAGEDDON, END OF DAYS, ST. JOHN THE ISLE OF PATAMOS, COMPLETION OF THE CYCLE, GALACTIC CENTER, PHOTON BELT, CENTER OF MILKYWAY GALAXY, GAME OVER GAME OVER END T H E E N D.......................... GET OVER THE WELL I THINK BLAH, i FEEL BLAH , WELL i DON'T KNOW ABOUT BLAH, BLAH, DAMMIT THIS IS GAME OVER.. EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE BUT IN FIVE WEEKS OR SO IT AIN'T GONNA MATTER..... THE PTB HAVE BEEN PLANNING THIS FOR FIFTY YEARS...FIFTY YEARS..FIFTY YEARS..... longer than I've been alive the ptb have planned to no matter what around mid oct game over

[Marianne]

Okay Carolin, I'm going to the kitchen for a hot fudge sundae!!

[dddanieljjjamesss]

the US government , has done just enough to keep things going till elenin/nukes/volcanoes/tidal waves/pole shift breaks loose on us in about four to five weeks. Nothing will be the same, Get away from the coast, get away from big cities, store up bottle water, and food for at least six months, there will be no electricity, chaos will ensue, people will panic and loose their minds for food and shelter. I will keep saying this until sep 26th this year. My fellow avalonians, no matter your view on what's coming, comet/planet/dwarf star/nibiru/transformation/end of a cycle/ the PTB are gonna unleash the nukes, blow the dams, scorch the skies, and run underground and close the bunker DOOR. we are on our own. Get my point? if elenin passes with no affect, our PTB are gonna use it for an end of the world situation anyway, this is the moment for the D.U.M.B.S. underground cities built two a year for fifty years. they have known about nibiru for 50 years ! This is game over on the world as we know it. forget fearmongering and doom and gloom, JUST PREPARE FOR NO ELECTRIC, AND MAKE YOUR OWN FOOD AND AVOID RIOTS. it's about to fall apart fast, wakey wakey wakey= prepare now for no power, disorder, chaos, and our government gone for good UNDERGROUND. what will you do? learn to be self sufficient, stock up on bottle water, and beef jerky will keep a long time , when your hungry your body will crave meat first. You will need something to keep your things dry, stuff ruins quickly when it gets wet, imagne being stuck in the woods, FOOD WATER SHELTER, HIGH AND DRY WITH NO POWER - NIGHTIME WILL HAVE A NEW MEANING. stay away from crowds and the military, you get caught and sent to a fema camp, and the beartrap closes, you won't be allowed to leave once they have you. This is game over, millions will die, the strong and the prudent will survive. Get your mind right, now, today ,prepare, watch, lots of government planes will be flying over, talking heads and tv politicians will start acting very weird, why? cause the real person is gone UNDERGROUND , your looking at a clone/robot, there to keep the masses entranced just long enough for the goons to make final preperations before it's off to the DEEP UNDERGROUND MILITARY BASES. Get real, they know about the chaos, why do you think they would build entire cities two miles underground for 50 years bankrupting the economy, starting wars to keep the cash flow coming. oh the UNDERGROUND CITIES are connected by railcars- hmmmm no NEED TO GO TO THE SURFACE? permantly underground for two years maybe? two years of never being topside? THIS IS AS REAL AS IT GETS. ARMAGEDDON, END OF DAYS, ST. JOHN THE ISLE OF PATAMOS, COMPLETION OF THE CYCLE, GALACTIC CENTER, PHOTON BELT, CENTER OF MILKYWAY GALAXY, GAME OVER GAME OVER END T H E E N D.......................... GET OVER THE WELL I THINK BLAH, i FEEL BLAH , WELL i DON'T KNOW ABOUT BLAH, BLAH, DAMMIT THIS IS GAME OVER.. EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE BUT IN FIVE WEEKS OR SO IT AIN'T GONNA MATTER..... THE PTB HAVE BEEN PLANNING THIS FOR FIFTY YEARS...FIFTY YEARS..FIFTY YEARS..... longer than I've been alive the ptb have planned to no matter what around mid oct game over

a bright future indeed
but we are multidimensional beings
i'm not going to participate in your reality, sorry.

[Hervé]

There is a window of 3 days before the alignment and 3 days after. I would have to say Alexander Retrov called it!!! A 7.5 (I saw somewhere else it was a 7.8), 7.4 & a 7.0 and a crap load of 5's. This should be a warning for us to get it together......there will be no other warnings before the September 26th alignment.

Eat what you want, say what you feel and live life to the fullest!!

May be yes, maybe not... he didn't call the kermadec 7.6 on July 7, 2011... nobody did but I... it scared the **** out of me that I did:



[...]I have a 100% strong doubt about this guy's "sources" to be of anything based on facts.

Here is why:

* the object is named Nibiru whereas Nibiru doesn't exist and is only a figment of Sitchin's imagination( see Post # 650 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=272050&viewfull=1#post272050) as well as this one Post # 44 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24489-Was-Sitchin-wrong&p=257074&viewfull=1#post257074) in another thread)

* Elenin has a 1 million years orbital period, there about, and therefore cannot be blamed for the catastrophes of the past millenia

*How can a planet be at right angles [sic] to the Sun? Seems like another case of fitting the data to the theory.

* Elenin seems to have been assigned the role of the flying drunk, box-cutters holders of 9-11 infame as it seems to validate the Solar Capacitor/Electric Universe theories of which I gave an example in post # 751:


If geometry has anything to do with Elenin short-circuiting the Solar capacitor in accordance with McCanney and John H. Nelson (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/229308-Planetary-Alignments-and-the-Solar-Capacitor-Things-are-heatin-up-) then the following dates might prove of some interest:



[...]
ETA:

Looking at that JPL Elenin orbit, it seems there's an alignment Saturn-Elenin-Mercury-Sun-Jupiter square Earth around July 6-9... good days for healers and lightworkers to practice... [7.6 Kermadec, July 7, 2011]


In that same vein, just eye-balling for a rough estimate, here are other "alignments" I noticed:

Aug. 13-17: Venus-Sun-Mercury-Earth square Elenin

Sept. 27 : Mercury-Sun-Elenin-Earth-Uranus square Mars

Oct. 2-6 : Saturn-Venus-Mercury-Sun-Elenin-Earth-Jupiter square Mars-(Sun)-Pluto

Nov. 8 : Venus-Mercury-Earth-Elenin square Mars-Sun-Neptune

Nov. 30 - Dec. 2 : Sun-Mercury-Earth-Elenin square Venus

Feb. 11-17: Sun-Venus-Elenin square Mars-Earth-(Sun)-Mercury-Neptune

The thing to remember is that J.H. Nelson worked with heliocentric coordinates.

Refer to: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/229308-Planetary-Alignments-and-the-Solar-Capacitor-Things-are-heatin-up-

Now revised (v. 0.2):

Aug. 17-20: Venus-Sun-Mercury-Earth square Elenin-(Sun)-(+/-Mars)

Sept. 25-27 : Mercury-Sun-Elenin-Earth-Uranus square Mars

Oct. 2-6 : Saturn-Venus-Mercury-Sun-Elenin-Earth-Jupiter square Mars-(Sun)-Pluto

Nov. 8 : Venus-Mercury-Earth-Elenin square Sun-Neptune

Nov. 30 - Dec. 2 : Sun-Mercury-Earth-Elenin square Venus

Dec.14-__: Mars-Mercury-Sun square Jupiter

Jan 1 - __: Saturn-Mercury-Sun square Earth

Feb. 11-17: Sun-Venus-Elenin square Mars-Earth-(Sun)-Mercury-Neptune

Oct. 12 - __: Mars-Mercury-Sun-Venus-Elenin square Uranus

I have a v. 0.3 somewhere around as well.

If you check this post (post # 20 in "The Horror of Fukushima (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?22084-Fukushima-Major-act-of-deliberate-war&p=243708&viewfull=1#post243708)) you may be able to realize there is a wide discrepancy between the recorded magnitude of the earth quake on Japanese seismometers (6.67) and the magnitude published by the MSM (9.0) as well as a location discrepancy. My take is that something was enhanced to justify the reality of a huge tsunami which is responsible for the vast majority of the damages, not the "colossal" earthquake itself.

Now, since puny comet Elenin hasn't fried Stereo Behind to charred smithereens when passing close by to it; it would at least indicate that if any capacitor was involved, that particular one got discharged a while ago and is now flat. In other words, you can now put your hands in the circuitry without getting zapped.

Seems like grounding should be the order of the day.

Sorry to say that the solar capacitor is not yet flat.

Otherwise, it has nothing to do with Elenin (box-cutter patsy) but only with Mercury getting at hard angles with outer planets (Mars).



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[truthseekerdan]

Our mind is the source of all fear and anxiety. Everyone experiences fear and anxiety mainly through a lack of knowledge. Whenever the light of reason enters the mind, the darkness of ignorance fades. What each of us believes to be true is true for us alone. At the beginning of freedom, everything that is false is separated from everything that is true. There is no life for anyone in fear.

What we believe produces experience and when we experience our existence only through what we believe, we may have inadvertently imagined uncertainty, which in turn has created fear. The right way to live with any illusion is without fear, including the inevitable outcome of our physical lives, which is death. Whatever prepares us for death enhances life.

Much love and unity

[Hervé]

USGS and the MSM don't seem to find any agreements on what magnitude to ascribe to the Vanuatu EQ:



Magnitude 7.5 quake hits Vanuatu in Pacific: USGS

WASHINGTON | Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:37pm EDT
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A powerful magnitude 7.5 earthquake struck off the Pacific island nation of Vanuatu, the U.S. Geological Survey reported Saturday.
It said the quake, which struck at 3:55 a.m. local time on Sunday (12:55 p.m. EDT on Saturday), was centered 38 miles southwest of the town of Port-Vila and was quite shallow, at a depth of 25.2 miles.
The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center said the major quake had not triggered a Pacific-wide tsunami but said: "Earthquakes of this size sometimes generate local tsunamis that can be destructive along coasts located within a hundred kilometers (80 miles) of the earthquake epicenter."
There was no immediate information of any damage or casualties, but when on land quakes of this magnitude can cause widespread and heavy damage.
The quake was followed by a weaker aftershock of magnitude 5.9 some 20 minutes later.
The Vanuatu archipelago is located on the so-called "Ring of Fire," one of the most seismically active regions in the world. Port-Vila is the capital of Vanuatu and has an estimated population of 40,000 people.
(Reporting by Sandra Maler (http://blogs.reuters.com/search/journalist.php?edition=us&n=sandra.maler&), Editing by Vicki Allen)



Update time = Sun Aug 21 0:55:04 UTC 2011

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y/m/d h:m:s (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php#date) deg (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php#location) deg (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php#location) km (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/glossary.php#depth)


MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/170_-20.php)5.6 2011/08/21 00:23:39 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005hgp.php) -18.265 167.801 28.8 VANUATU
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/170_-20.php)5.0 2011/08/21 00:09:22 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005hgm.php) -18.221 167.544 16.2 VANUATU

MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/140_40.php)5.0 2011/08/20 22:58:42 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005hg0.php) 38.695 141.818 52.2 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/170_-20.php)5.0 2011/08/20 21:38:23 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005hf4.php) -18.254 168.046 53.8 VANUATU
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/170_-20.php)5.0 2011/08/20 19:23:04 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005hcu.php) -18.162 168.110 31.5 VANUATU
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/170_-20.php)7.0 2011/08/20 18:19:25 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005hbt.php) -18.287 168.132 28.5 VANUATU
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/170_-20.php)5.2 2011/08/20 18:02:01 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005hbd.php) -18.608 167.910 35.3 VANUATU
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/170_-20.php)5.1 2011/08/20 17:44:27 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005hau.php) -18.770 167.924 9.5 VANUATU
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/170_-20.php)5.9 2011/08/20 17:13:07 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005ha0.php) -18.287 168.062 37.3 VANUATU
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/170_-20.php)5.6 2011/08/20 17:11:36 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005ha5.php) -18.289 167.755 40.9 VANUATU
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/180_-30.php)5.0 2011/08/20 17:08:37 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005h9t.php) -31.402 -178.702 227.9 KERMADEC ISLANDS REGION
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/170_-20.php)7.1 2011/08/20 16:55:03 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005h9f.php) -18.260 168.069 40.6 VANUATU
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/180_-15.php)5.1 2011/08/20 10:27:16 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005h72.php) -15.874 -179.444 2.6 FIJI REGION
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/170_-20.php)5.1 2011/08/20 09:50:18 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005h6p.php) -18.553 168.090 35.1 VANUATU
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/70_40.php)5.0 2011/08/20 05:31:23 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005h5n.php) 42.414 71.300 23.4 KYRGYZSTAN
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/185_-25.php)5.2 2011/08/20 01:25:04 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005h4b.php) -22.561 -174.960 34.2 TONGA REGION

MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/140_45.php)5.1 2011/08/19 19:10:12 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005gx0.php) 45.947 142.489 311.6 HOKKAIDO, JAPAN REGION
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/155_45.php)5.3 2011/08/19 11:39:47 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005gq9.php) 46.550 153.246 31.1 KURIL ISLANDS
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/125_-10.php)5.3 2011/08/19 07:48:09 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005gnh.php) -7.843 123.296 223.1 BANDA SEA
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/140_40.php)6.3 2011/08/19 05:36:33 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005gmg.php) 37.673 141.716 43.6 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/185_-15.php)6.2 2011/08/19 03:54:28 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005glw.php) -16.526 -176.905 413.2 FIJI REGION
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/145_45.php)5.0 2011/08/19 02:28:51 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005gld.php) 43.261 146.031 106.3 KURIL ISLANDS

MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/45_45.php)5.1 2011/08/18 11:57:43 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005g6l.php) 42.618 42.961 10.0 GEORGIA (SAK'ART'VELO)

MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/70_35.php)5.2 2011/08/17 23:52:03 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005g07.php) 36.358 69.403 31.8 HINDU KUSH REGION, AFGHANISTAN
MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/145_35.php)6.2 2011/08/17 11:44:08 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005fj1.php) 36.776 143.773 10.0 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
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MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/140_40.php)5.0 2011/08/17 03:05:06 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005ffc.php) 38.363 142.184 35.3 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN

MAP (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/330_-55.php)5.6 2011/08/16 20:24:01 (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0005f8v.php) -57.243 -25.464 26.9 SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS REGION




http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/icons/icon4.png M 7.5, Vanuatu
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/images/globes/-20_170.jpgSaturday, August 20, 2011 16:55:02 UTC
Sunday, August 21, 2011 03:55:02 AM at epicenter

Depth: 40.60 km (25.23 mi)

[Carolin]

I personally don't care if it's Elenin, Haarp, solar flares, buried ammunition, the illuminati, little green men, or gaia shaking off the fleas. Nobody can deny that there is something going on in the solar system and on our little blue planet. Are you scared..............good!!! Maybe you'll do something about it then. I have house/car/health/life insurance because I understand somethng could happen. Do I let it consume my very existance, of course not.

Do what the NASA video suggested, stock up, today! And if you live on a coastline or faultline try and take a vacation at the end of September. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

I've been seeing 11:11 nonstop lately. I'm starting to wonder if it's been a warning for either the day and month or month and year.

[Mu2143]

Hi All ,

I found this on www.tribulation-now.org check it out , because this thing looks big and it is only seen in the infared on google sky

1. Step One: After you go to “Google Sky” you will see “outer space” and the blackness of stars.
2. Step Two: In the search bar at the upper left corner of the Google Sky screen, type “Mercury” and press Enter. Again you will see only the blackness of outer space with a little devil like symbol for the planet “Mercury”.
3. Step Three: Next, find the little button in the upper right of your screen that says “Infrared”. Click that button. The screen will turn to a hazy reddish color.

[nearing]

Hi All ,

I found this on www.tribulation-now.org check it out , because this thing looks big and it is only seen in the infared on google sky

1. Step One: After you go to “Google Sky” you will see “outer space” and the blackness of stars.
2. Step Two: In the search bar at the upper left corner of the Google Sky screen, type “Mercury” and press Enter. Again you will see only the blackness of outer space with a little devil like symbol for the planet “Mercury”.
3. Step Three: Next, find the little button in the upper right of your screen that says “Infrared”. Click that button. The screen will turn to a hazy reddish color.

Steps 1 & 2: check.

There is no button that says infrared.

[Mu2143]

It should be and the other buttons are Microwave ,Historical. I allready found it and took a screen shot of it just in case they remove this.

[nearing]

It should be and the other buttons are Microwave ,Historical. I allready found it and took a screen shot of it just in case they remove this.

Maybe you have a plugin added that shows these things. There is nothing in my upper right corner. I can only zoom in and out.

[dourpil]

Amazing! (although I have no idea what this is, why they are showing it, when the 'picture' was taken, etc..)

Thanks :)

[Mu2143]

Try this link...
http://www.google.com/sky/#latitude=13.710035342476681&longitude=-32.882080078125&zoom=7&Spitzer=0.00&ChandraXO=0.00&Galex=0.00&IRAS=100.00&WMAP=0.00&Cassini=0.00&slide=1&mI=-1&oI=-1

[dourpil]

Here's what it's showing:

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1044/nibirud.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/nibirud.png/)

(edit: Haha, you can see I tried (in vain) to help you with your issue nearing, searching for "no infrared button" in google. Not helpful :p Screenshot's more efficient!)

[steveofengland]

Things are possibly getting exciting now then? where is tip object in relation to constellations does anyone know?

[nearing]

Try this link...
http://www.google.com/sky/#latitude=13.710035342476681&longitude=-32.882080078125&zoom=7&Spitzer=0.00&ChandraXO=0.00&Galex=0.00&IRAS=100.00&WMAP=0.00&Cassini=0.00&slide=1&mI=-1&oI=-1

That's the problem. I have Google Earth/Sky downloaded on my computer. There I cannot turn anything on. At the site, I can. Thanks.

Yep, that's the Dwarf Star - only seen with infrared. It's NOT a comet which can be seen without infrared.

[WhiteFeather]

Nice! Are we sure this is Nibiru or in Sumerian Tongue, Marduk?

[Unified Serenity]

Nice find. I'm sure it will be blacked out soon enough and therefore it does not exist, right?

[steveofengland]

IF it is blacked out I don't think we will need any other confirmation, I do suspect however it will be debunked as something trivial and laughed off by people with lots of letters after their names.

[greybeard]

This is for a zip file 119 pages long.
Very full, fact filled re the topic of this thread,
Shiva777 posted it elsewhere thanks/credit due to him.
Chris

ftp://qcenglish@down.shopye.net/nibiru_elenin.zip

[Billy]

Nasa says Elenin is a wimp :-)
http://www.space.com/12603-comet-elenin-photo-nasa-stereo-spacecraft.html

Quote:
NASA has dismissed the notion that comet Elenin is anything other than a dim, wimpy comet. It poses no threat to Earth, making its closest pass at a distance roughly 100 times farther than the distance from Earth to the moon.

[Violet]

Interesting. What do we know about its orbit?

[Operator]

I just watched the Susan Rennison presentation yesterday recommended by Greybeard and Ian Gordon.

Although Chris suggested it might be a little bit off topic I think the presentation is very good and explains
exactly what's going on at the moment. Indeed she doesn't mention Elenin at all but Elenin is not needed
to explain all the changes ... for me it becomes clearer and clearer that Elenin is used as a distraction.

The time frame and the changes maybe real but the cause is likely very different. I think the TPTB are
scared because they simply cannot predict what will happen, they can only speculate and they are
very good at imagining worse case scenarios.

Remember if someone is not so self-assured he/she is likely to become a control freak, wanting to control
everything. Well, what do we find more and more in the authorities nowadays ?
So tell me where we would find the ones who would fear most losing control ?

After watching Susan's presentation I think more than ever that the Hopi were right:


There is a river flowing now very fast. It is so great and swift that there are those who will be afraid. They will try to hold on
to the shore. They will feel they are being torn apart and will suffer greatly. Know the river has its destination. The elders say
we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of the river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above the water.

And I say, see who is in there with you and celebrate. At this time in history

[Maia Gabrial]

What I was told by someone who has Google Earth, that the free version doesn't have all the features that the one you pay for has.....makes sense to me. I couldn't find half the stuff everyone was talking about....

[Billy]

Comet Elenin & Conspiracy Theories, This video is subtiltled


http://vimeo.com/27641855

[Ammit]

Has this picture been doctored?,. If you look to the right and zoom in you can see a line of squares which resemble the edge of old camera film....

10h15m19.0s 15degs 6` 14.2"

[enfoldedblue]

I typed in Nibiru Mercury and infrared in google search to see what others were saying about this and I noticed this:
8/21/11 Has anyone seen Nibiru today in google sky ? I did and it ...
answers.yahoo.com › ... › News & Events › Current EventsHave you seen nibiru on google sky ? Search google sky (this is for those who don't know how ) Then type in mercury , hit the infrared button to the

When you click on the question and get to the page you find: This question has been deleted
Questions on Yahoo! Answers are sometimes deleted according to our Community Guidelines.

hhhmmmmmmmmm

[dddanieljjjamesss]

It looks kind of fake to me... just saying.

[kathymarie]

I was going to post this...it came to me in a forwarded message from James Gilliland...read it...he says to jump down to page 26 and he says "Nibiru has already turned Saturn on its side 90 degrees when it passed through at 8 AU's away. " That alone is an attention getter as far as I'm concerned. However, having said that why aren't more amateur astronomers or professional ones for that matter not chiming in more on the subject? Personally, I want to believe we are co-creators of our reality and I would believe enough of us are members of Project Avalon to bring about a critical mass to ensure this event is for the greater good.
ftp://qcenglish@down.shopye.net/nibiru_elenin.zip[/QUOTE]

[Hervé]

[...]

... why aren't more amateur astronomers or professional ones for that matter not chiming in more on the subject?

[...]
ftp://qcenglish@down.shopye.net/nibiru_elenin.zip

Didn't you read this thread?

They do!

But very few people read their post swamped amidst the gloomers & doomers floods of alarming posts contest when not utterly bashed... so they quit.

Check post # 805 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=277002&viewfull=1#post277002)

[Operator]

[...]

... why aren't more amateur astronomers or professional ones for that matter not chiming in more on the subject?

[...]
ftp://qcenglish@down.shopye.net/nibiru_elenin.zip

Didn't you read this thread?

They do!

But very few people read their post swamped amidst the gloomers & doomers floods of alarming posts contest when not utterly bashed... so they quit.

Check post # 805 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=277002&viewfull=1#post277002)

Yeah, I've read that article before ... maybe it's me (not being a native English speaker) but I think that article is pretty confusing.
Instead of letting this dr. Glenn talk they keep referring to mr. Croft and all the nonsense he supposedly is spewing.
Then in short dr. Glenn gets to say that he has nothing to do with Croft BUT there is something extraordinary he has seen for 3
consecutive nights and they build the mystery again:


While he may not ally himself with the "research group," the Cape Girardeau doctor does believe there's something very bad in the wind.

"I'm watching. I have a watchful eye," Glenn said, asserting that something serious is causing a rash of volcanoes and massive earthquakes, like the 9.0 quake that struck Japan in March. He claims to know something, the same thing NASA knows, the president knows, the Defense Department knows. But Glenn says there's no use in talking about it -- and the leaders in the know can't talk about it either.

To finish with Dr. Don Yeomans from NASA who basically says nothing to see just walk on ...

So in all, I think the article was 'designed' to confuse and not to clear up anything.

I have the same question (still): "If the whole Saturn tilt is true, why don't we hear more about it ?"
There should be thousands of amateur astronomers flooding forums with this topic etc.

[Hervé]

This is for a zip file 119 pages long.
Very full, fact filled re the topic of this thread,
Shiva777 posted it elsewhere thanks/credit due to him.
Chris

ftp://qcenglish@down.shopye.net/nibiru_elenin.zip


Check post # 579 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=263052&viewfull=1#post263052)


Mandala.. Hi


You should read the article on Sott website regarding Kerry / Hoagland video.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231434-Elenin-Nibiru-Planet-X-Time-for-a-Sanity-Check



I don't know what else to say... :tape2:

[Hervé]

[...]
I have the same question (still): "If the whole Saturn tilt is true, why don't we hear more about it ?"
There should be thousands of amateur astronomers flooding forums with this topic etc.

All right Operator, I would just ask you to read just a little further down from the article excerpt and your question will be answered:




Was still hoping to get confirmation regarding Saturn.

Could the photos themselves have been rotated???

That would still not account for the Saturn moon images ... nor the storm.

[...]

As for Saturn's tilt... here's what GLP's amateur astronomer has to say:

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Re: [+PIN+] ELEnin & Nibiru NEW Report... Holy SH*T READ THIS!!!!Quote (http://204.74.214.194/bbs/reply.php?messageid=1574871&page=30&quote=26041998) [+ (http://javascript<b></b>:addQuote('reply', '26041998');)] # (http://204.74.214.194/forum1/message1574871/reply26041998)
I read through the file. I've read hundreds of postings here and on other sites on this subject and found a lot of doomers and debunkers alike and I seriously don't know which to trust. Amateurs, "professionals", claimed professionals, religious quotes...You name it.
Quoting: Captain Spaulding 1366925

You can trust amateur astronomers. We have no reason or motivation to lie, and indeed we're telling the truth. We'd know if Saturn had experienced a "90 degree pole shift." It hasn't.
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... and this:

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Re: [+PIN+] ELEnin & Nibiru NEW Report... Holy SH*T READ THIS!!!!Quote (http://204.74.214.194/bbs/reply.php?messageid=1574871&page=30&quote=26041771) [+ (http://javascript<b></b>:addQuote('reply', '26041771');)] # (http://204.74.214.194/forum1/message1574871/reply26041771)http://ads.godlikeproductions.com/i/www/delivery/lg.php?bannerid=150&campaignid=40&zoneid=2&loc=1&referer=http%3A%2F%2F204.74.214.194%2Fforum1%2Fmessage1574871%2Fpg30&cb=f6240f6ad1

Errrr guys. If the gravitational pull from Nibiru was strong enough to tilt Saturn, those moons would no longet be where they are.
Just thought i'd point that one out.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1407727


Now *THIS* is a small, but very relevant, example of the "agenda" that I and Astronut and others are trying to get across...

...it's called education, logic, and common sense.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198034

Look budy through the years many famous scientist of there day where persecuted for there theories for thinking out of the box. Are you 100% certain your correct because if you are your the first because no one has firm data on this object.
Quoting: ducati60


Then *you* explain how the gravity of an alleged brown dwarf (or neutron star, that's a nice one) passed by Saturn and did NOT change the orbits of the moons.

Well?
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Think of it... that's a major cosmic feat: Tilting Saturn by 90 degrees without flinging its moons in all directions!


I am in awe. :hail:

[learninglight]

Hi guys

Found this interesting....seems there are amateur astronomers checking this out

HeKmQk8-2Us

[seko]

This is for a zip file 119 pages long.
Very full, fact filled re the topic of this thread,
Shiva777 posted it elsewhere thanks/credit due to him.
Chris

ftp://qcenglish@down.shopye.net/nibiru_elenin.zip

Hi greybeard,

I read shiva777's file. He seems to have a lot of info and well presented.

If this is true, bring it on. I will flow like water, if I've decided before hand to be here and live to tell the tale and start rebuilding the planet I will, but if I have to go, I will go.

We couldn't do anything about it, but hiding. I honestly wouldn't like that.

Let the people that have access to the D.U.M.B.'s hide in there.

[dourpil]

If it's Nibiru and if it's a planet, how come other planets don't have the same effect?

[nearing]

If it's Nibiru and if it's a planet, how come other planets don't have the same effect?

If it was only a planet, we wouldn't need infrared telescopes to see it.

[Kindred]

Here's the You-tube url:
[URL="dyn_c0lecUI

I'll leave it up to the individual to ascertain the validity of this news. I'll point out that it was posted recently - on Aug. 20th.

I'm sure there will be others yet to come, if indeed, this is valid information.

Unity & Peace

(lets try this link... let me know if it doesn't work!!!)

[shadowstalker]

Sorry but you need a better link

[dourpil]

Here it is:

dyn_c0lecUI

[Kindred]

Thanks so much dourpil!!! I thought I copied it properly... I guess not :(

[ghostrider]

remember folks the brown dwarf is dragging space debris and has been for 3,600 years, lots of junk is caught up in the gravity wave. we will see all sorts of anomalies for the next five weeks. elenin makes her run above the ecliptic on or about sept 14th 2011 visible in the south/east in the mornings.

[dourpil]

Thanks so much dourpil!!! I thought I copied it properly... I guess not :(

No problem! It seems that you only copied the "signature" part of the link, or the part that codes for this specific video. inside the [youtube ] code you have to paste the full www.etc link

[greybeard]

This may seem of topic but is it really
Crop circles

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/interface2005.htm

Many opinions regarding the circles and the planets on that link.
May be so. I dont know

Regards Chris

ps Shiva777 didnt write the zip file but posted it else where-- its been out a while but it might have been modified/expanded since first show-- I dont have original so cant compare, perhaps some one can.

C

[TargeT]

If it's Nibiru and if it's a planet, how come other planets don't have the same effect?

if its "nibiru" then it's most likely a brown dwarf star, our system is a binary system (like basicaly every single other on eout there) and this is our 2nd sun, which will cause havok as it passes our planet this fall..

of course, all of that starts with "if"

me personaly? I don't need any more information, this is happening.

[greybeard]

If it's Nibiru and if it's a planet, how come other planets don't have the same effect?

if its "nibiru" then it's most likely a brown dwarf star, our system is a binary system (like basicaly every single other on eout there) and this is our 2nd sun, which will cause havok as it passes our planet this fall..

of course, all of that starts with "if"

me personaly? I don't need any more information, this is happening.

Yes but what is happening?
In a recent zip file posted there is "proof" that Niberu is one year behind Elenin.
That may make sense from the point of the blue and red-- prophecies.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone--- I dont know enough to form a definite opinion as yet.
Except I agree something is happening.

Chris

[TargeT]

If it's Nibiru and if it's a planet, how come other planets don't have the same effect?

if its "nibiru" then it's most likely a brown dwarf star, our system is a binary system (like basicaly every single other on eout there) and this is our 2nd sun, which will cause havok as it passes our planet this fall..

of course, all of that starts with "if"

me personaly? I don't need any more information, this is happening.

Yes but what is happening?
In a recent zip file posted there is "proof" that Niberu is one year behind Elenin.
That may make sense from the point of the blue and red-- prophecies.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone--- I dont know enough to form a definite opinion as yet.
Except I agree something is happening.

Chris


WHAT is happening?

I see 2 plausable scenario's (extreme distilation)

A) we are about to transend this existance, break free of the confinements that are everywhere (reptilian extra dimensional influence, or what ever it may be)

B) we are at the end of a 26,000 year cycle, one which we have reached and passed MANY MANY times (13 million years worth) and all this enlightment / trandcention crap is to pacify us so that we do not question too strongly, so we spend our time in meditation waiting for what we think is salvation when infact it's an E.L.E.; since the controlling group really doesn't want to bother with 7 billion angry food bags, it's going to lull us into not preparing and let the earth be "cleansed" by the "destroyer" (as it's done every so often, at this point I'm not sure if it happens every 6,000 years (I think it does) and this 26,000 years (roughly) cycle is just the completion of a longer cycle (microcasm and macrocasm, as above so below etc..) so this one will be different or not? I dunno) ANYWAY.. option B is : let confusion and chaos reign right up untill the earth experences a population reset (that's been clearly desired for a long time, georga guide stones are an example) then they will come back to the surface (either from the DUMB (underground bases) or from possibly the center of the earth & / or moon) and start the proccess over again.

if its B.. we are F|_|cked (IMO) if its A.. I'm excited..

either way I'm not afraid, fear is their controll mech, and in general completely useless.

[nearing]

If it's Nibiru and if it's a planet, how come other planets don't have the same effect?

if its "nibiru" then it's most likely a brown dwarf star, our system is a binary system (like basicaly every single other on eout there) and this is our 2nd sun, which will cause havok as it passes our planet this fall..

of course, all of that starts with "if"

me personaly? I don't need any more information, this is happening.

Yes but what is happening?
In a recent zip file posted there is "proof" that Niberu is one year behind Elenin.
That may make sense from the point of the blue and red-- prophecies.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone--- I dont know enough to form a definite opinion as yet.
Except I agree something is happening.

Chris


WHAT is happening?

I see 2 plausable scenario's (extreme distilation)

A) we are about to transend this existance, break free of the confinements that are everywhere (reptilian extra dimensional influence, or what ever it may be)

B) we are at the end of a 26,000 year cycle, one which we have reached and passed MANY MANY times (13 million years worth) and all this enlightment / trandcention crap is to pacify us so that we do not question too strongly, so we spend our time in meditation waiting for what we think is salvation when infact it's an E.L.E.; since the controlling group really doesn't want to bother with 7 billion angry food bags, it's going to lull us into not preparing and let the earth be "cleansed" by the "destroyer" (as it's done every so often, at this point I'm not sure if it happens every 6,000 years (I think it does) and this 26,000 years (roughly) cycle is just the completion of a longer cycle (microcasm and macrocasm, as above so below etc..) so this one will be different or not? I dunno) ANYWAY.. option B is : let confusion and chaos reign right up untill the earth experences a population reset (that's been clearly desired for a long time, georga guide stones are an example) then they will come back to the surface (either from the DUMB (underground bases) or from possibly the center of the earth & / or moon) and start the proccess over again.

if its B.. we are F|_|cked (IMO) if its A.. I'm excited..

either way I'm not afraid, fear is their controll mech, and in general completely useless.

I prefer A as well, but even if it is B, I am fine as long as I am one of the ones that die. I know I will go on but really don't cherish the thought of being the few that are left to be 'controlled' on a post apocalyptic Earth. Truly, I'd rather reincarnate some time in the future.

But A would be awesome!

[yiolas]

Hi Chris , thanks for the zip file. I haven't read through the document yet, but it seems well researched and presented. I'll try to take in a few pages a day. Any way, this you tuber presents his information and his opinions on Elenin and Nibiru with a comical flare. He's a real hoot, check it out.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY4a_2CJAcE

[Carolin]

Check this out!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_dZI2NAP6I&feature=uploademail

[HORIZONS]

FYI... Who is this "insider" anyway?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jBkuu-Tck6E

[WhiteFeather]

If it's Nibiru and if it's a planet, how come other planets don't have the same effect?

if its "nibiru" then it's most likely a brown dwarf star, our system is a binary system (like basicaly every single other on eout there) and this is our 2nd sun, which will cause havok as it passes our planet this fall..

of course, all of that starts with "if"

me personaly? I don't need any more information, this is happening.

Yes but what is happening?
In a recent zip file posted there is "proof" that Niberu is one year behind Elenin.
That may make sense from the point of the blue and red-- prophecies.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone--- I dont know enough to form a definite opinion as yet.
Except I agree something is happening.

Chris


WHAT is happening?

I see 2 plausable scenario's (extreme distilation)

A) we are about to transend this existance, break free of the confinements that are everywhere (reptilian extra dimensional influence, or what ever it may be)

B) we are at the end of a 26,000 year cycle, one which we have reached and passed MANY MANY times (13 million years worth) and all this enlightment / trandcention crap is to pacify us so that we do not question too strongly, so we spend our time in meditation waiting for what we think is salvation when infact it's an E.L.E.; since the controlling group really doesn't want to bother with 7 billion angry food bags, it's going to lull us into not preparing and let the earth be "cleansed" by the "destroyer" (as it's done every so often, at this point I'm not sure if it happens every 6,000 years (I think it does) and this 26,000 years (roughly) cycle is just the completion of a longer cycle (microcasm and macrocasm, as above so below etc..) so this one will be different or not? I dunno) ANYWAY.. option B is : let confusion and chaos reign right up untill the earth experences a population reset (that's been clearly desired for a long time, georga guide stones are an example) then they will come back to the surface (either from the DUMB (underground bases) or from possibly the center of the earth & / or moon) and start the proccess over again.

if its B.. we are F|_|cked (IMO) if its A.. I'm excited..

either way I'm not afraid, fear is their controll mech, and in general completely useless.

I prefer A as well, but even if it is B, I am fine as long as I am one of the ones that die. I know I will go on but really don't cherish the thought of being the few that are left to be 'controlled' on a post apocalyptic Earth. Truly, I'd rather reincarnate some time in the future.

But A would be awesome!

Same Answer For Me Nearing, My Applause's To You!

[nearing]

FYI... Who is this "insider" anyway?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jBkuu-Tck6E

A janitor at the Telescope facility, can't you tell by his manner of speaking?

[HORIZONS]

Well at least he is inside :rolleyes: lol

[Kindred]

I came across these two items by happenstance. I won't testify to their authenticity, but they seem to be Very discerning and technically directed.

Of significant import is that they attribute similar effects of both Elenin's and Nibiru's passages, but orders of magnitude of differences between these two body's effects upon the solar system and, in particular, the Earth.

Moreover, Nibiru arrives about 1 YEAR AFTER Elenin, but it's magnetic effects began to impact on the Earth by this August 18th!

PART 1
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PART 2
HvVLVmC2NVU


Well... I think that fixed the links... I'll inform a mod for moving to the appropriate thread.

[nearing]

I came across these two items by happenstance. I won't testify to their authenticity, but they seem to be Very discerning and technically directed.

Of significant import is that they attribute similar effects of both Elenin's and Nibiru's passages, but orders of magnitude of differences between these two body's effects upon the solar system and, in particular, the Earth.

Moreover, Nibiru arrives about 1 YEAR AFTER Elenin, but it's magnetic effects began to impact on the Earth by about August 18th!

PART 1
illuminious

PART 2
illuminious

The videos will not play.

Once you find a link that works, can the mods please merge this thread with:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=290378#post290378

Thank you.

[Hervé]

ps Shiva777 didnt write the zip file but posted it else where-- its been out a while but it might have been modified/expanded since first show-- I dont have original so cant compare, perhaps some one can.
C

Hi Chris!

If you'd check this post and link (post # 579 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=263052&viewfull=1#post263052)), you would have found the original article from SOTT.net, which has been referenced in this thread, and found out it hasn't been modified nor expanded; even missing recent comments. As for Leonid Elenin's interview, I posted translated excerpts of it and the link to the original article (Post # 726 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=274465&viewfull=1#post274465)).

As I have seen Shiva777 lurking on this thread, I can even assume Shiva may very well have gotten the data here.


FYI... Who is this "insider" anyway?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jBkuu-Tck6E

Hi Horizons!

This guy's already been discussed here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26955-Telescope-Worker-tells-what-he-knows-about-Comet-Elenin&p=277222&viewfull=1#post277222

and here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=280860&viewfull=1#post280860



Cheers

[truth4me]

FYI... Who is this "insider" anyway?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jBkuu-Tck6E

A janitor at the Telescope facility, can't you tell by his manner of speaking?the guy has a lot of information....until he comes up with the"illumuniti and the U.S. MILITARY plan on going to Gods home planet to do battle with God" now its not on this short video but on the one that's over an hour on you tube. I'm sure they will sneak up on God....yer sure....please this is goofy.......

[The Truth Is In There]

If it's Nibiru and if it's a planet, how come other planets don't have the same effect?

if its "nibiru" then it's most likely a brown dwarf star, our system is a binary system (like basicaly every single other on eout there) and this is our 2nd sun, which will cause havok as it passes our planet this fall..

of course, all of that starts with "if"

me personaly? I don't need any more information, this is happening.

Yes but what is happening?
In a recent zip file posted there is "proof" that Niberu is one year behind Elenin.
That may make sense from the point of the blue and red-- prophecies.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone--- I dont know enough to form a definite opinion as yet.
Except I agree something is happening.

Chris


WHAT is happening?

I see 2 plausable scenario's (extreme distilation)

A) we are about to transend this existance, break free of the confinements that are everywhere (reptilian extra dimensional influence, or what ever it may be)

B) we are at the end of a 26,000 year cycle, one which we have reached and passed MANY MANY times (13 million years worth) and all this enlightment / trandcention crap is to pacify us so that we do not question too strongly, so we spend our time in meditation waiting for what we think is salvation when infact it's an E.L.E.; since the controlling group really doesn't want to bother with 7 billion angry food bags, it's going to lull us into not preparing and let the earth be "cleansed" by the "destroyer" (as it's done every so often, at this point I'm not sure if it happens every 6,000 years (I think it does) and this 26,000 years (roughly) cycle is just the completion of a longer cycle (microcasm and macrocasm, as above so below etc..) so this one will be different or not? I dunno) ANYWAY.. option B is : let confusion and chaos reign right up untill the earth experences a population reset (that's been clearly desired for a long time, georga guide stones are an example) then they will come back to the surface (either from the DUMB (underground bases) or from possibly the center of the earth & / or moon) and start the proccess over again.

if its B.. we are F|_|cked (IMO) if its A.. I'm excited..

either way I'm not afraid, fear is their controll mech, and in general completely useless.

both answers are correct. for a part of earth's population it will be A, for the other part it will be B. only we're not just at the end of a 26.000 year cycle but at the very end of a 16.4 billion year cycle!

ascension will happen for all those who are ready, all others will experience major earth changes during which a large part of the remaining population will die.

those who die will either incarnate again in the 3rd dimensional aspect of earth which will be ruled by tptb (for quite a while in underground bunkers and cities because the earth's surface will be inhabitable) or they'll incarnate on other, more benevolent 3d planets to continue their learning process.

those who live through the earth changes in 3d or incarnate here again will "descend" and live for a long time without any connection to spirit, probably under the rule of tptb, in a post-apocalyptic scenario, a living hell. that doesn't mean they're bad or negative, they just choose that experience because they need it for their soul's growth.

those who ascend will continue their existence for a while in the upper regions of the 4th dimensional aspect of earth and after a while will be ready to move up into the 5th dimension. so if the 3rd dimension can be called "hell" then the 4th and 5th dimensions could obviously be called "heaven".

all this has to be seen multidimensionally. it's not that earth ascends and then there's no more 3rd dimension on earth, there still is, but from our current point of view we'll soon experience a split where a part of the souls who are currently incarnated here move up into earth's 4th dimension and the others either stay here in the 3rd or leave their bodies during earth changes.

that explains why some have seen the future as post-apocalyptic with major earth changes and others haven't. you could call it a "positive" and a "negative" timeline but it's really just different frequencies/vibrations/dimensions. actually there are infinite varieties of this but split into the "positive" and "negative" scenario.

now what's noteworthy is that those people who look towards december 21st, 2012 for the ascension are very likely wrong and that the important date is october 28th, 2011. that could be why for example the bible says "the lord will come like a thief in the night" - most people are unaware of the ascension and even those who are aware of it, most of them think it'll happen in 2012 and may be unprepared.

so, why all this doom and gloom, the wars, the fear-mongering of tptb? to keep the vibrations low, to hold as many souls as possible in the 3rd dimension. tptb know they won't ascend because they don't want to, and they plan on keeping as many souls as possible from ascending.

that's my current and probably final take on this whole issue. a few days ago i've asked for clarification on the mayan calendar and ascension and elenin and nibiru and whatnot and that's what i got. approximately 66 days from now i'll know for sure :o

[Hervé]

Nop!

Youze all wrong!

That Brown Dwarf/Nemesis/planetX/Neutron Star cannot possibly be anywhere else than at 11h 11m 11s -- 220 22' 22"

The proof? Look at those numbers! Moreover Google is hiding it in that black strip! How much more proof does one need?

9511 9512

[Hervé]

In a recent zip file posted there is "proof" that Niberu is one year behind Elenin.
That may make sense from the point of the blue and red-- prophecies.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone--- I dont know enough to form a definite opinion as yet.
Except I agree something is happening.

Chris

Hi Chris!

Could you also post a link to where the content of that zip file is being shreded to bits?

That might help?

Thx

[greybeard]

In a recent zip file posted there is "proof" that Niberu is one year behind Elenin.
That may make sense from the point of the blue and red-- prophecies.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone--- I dont know enough to form a definite opinion as yet.
Except I agree something is happening.

Chris

Hi Chris!

Could you also post a link to where the content of that zip file is being shreded to bits?

That might help?

Thx

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=274465&viewfull=1#post274465

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Is-it-Comet-Elenin-Is-it-Nibiru-Elenin-Updates.&p=289630&viewfull=1#post289630


These are two links which might be helpful.
You have done a lot of work to point us in the right direction Amzer Zo ---thanks

Regards Chris

[1159]

Geeez! I've heard some religious hyperdrive hyperbole in the past, but this guy takes the top prize for fear mongering. Forget the lead helmet, give me bottle of sleeping pills ... There will be nothing to live for if what he says is right.

[phillipbbg]

Celestial restrictions .... this guy I have been keeping an eye on and he is rocking the boat... he has been tracking the incoming events for a long time..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWZwOwANdm4

[phillipbbg]

Celestial restrictions .... this guy I have been keeping an eye on and he is rocking the boat... he has been tracking the incoming events for a long time..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWZwOwANdm4

[kathymarie]

Ok....just when I was starting to feel like everything might be ok....the rug is pulled out from under me again. I hate fear-mongering but this sounds more like "need to know". What is your gut feeling about this?

[Hervé]

All right, enough of these :der: :jester: :pound:

Thanks to The One for uncovering this gem of a video:


y8oQn-8YmU0


It is worth a few listen/viewing because it yields the clue as to what's happening to this solar system.


In it, Stan Deyo explains what generates gravity and its standing waves in a system and that explanation accounts for about everything that's currently occurring planet wise.


He worked at generating anti-gravity fields with working scale models of larger vehicles. In order to do that, one has to get a good grasp of how gravity works... and there resides the crux of Earth and solar system changes.


Planets are located on annular standing waves generated by the Sun's rotating field and bounced back from outer space.


Hence, minimally, three things can influence the stationary wave where a planet is located:


1) something changing the Sun's rotating field,


2) something disturbing the outer space boucing boundary,


3) a combination of the above two.


Sooooo... if gravity and anti-gravity are generated by rotating fields... changes in those at the scale of a planet would generate changes in electromagnetic phenomena and in what we took for granted such as the magnetic north pole...


Changes in gravity would also generate tectonic re-adjustments, wouldn't they?


Since it seems the Sun is still rotating the same old pace... what could possibly be causing the planetary changes currently occurring?


Could it... Noooohh... that couldn't... you mean... something is disturbing that outer space bouncing boundary?


That's far out, isn't it?


Yep!


So is a binary companion star...



9514
9515


9516


9517



... let you chew on that one!




For those of you not familiar with Stan Deyo, he is about the only guy who was getting more and more accurate at predicting earth quakes from sea surface temperature resulting from plasma discharges... so, NOAA knock down the display of their sensors readings off the internet.

[Operator]

Celestial restrictions .... this guy I have been keeping an eye on and he is rocking the boat... he has been tracking the incoming events for a long time..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWZwOwANdm4

Interesting ... but I don't see a relation to Elenin (We have Nibiru in the thread title also of course).

Apart from that I see a pattern develop:
- dr Glenn and the tilting of Saturn story
- Jordan Maxwell stating evil is coming from Saturn
- Jay Weidner who said that the movie '2010, the year we make contact' was actually about Saturn not Jupiter
- in '2010, the year we make contact' there was a black rectangle (monolith ) too (full of stars!)
- at the end of 2010 the planet ignites as a sun
- A shift away from Satur(n)day to Sunday as resting day

The Sun was awfully quiet ... is Saturn going to become our new Sun ?
(see also especially the Lucifer project).

It maybe far fetched but the pattern is there ... and people crazy enough to do something like that too.

[Taurean]

Wow this is pretty concise and to the point


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scZAOQNopok

[Sidney]

works fine for me

[nearing]

Both of them say: The video you have requested is not available.

[Kindred]

I have the original pdf... found it this morning, and downloaded... let me know, and I'll send it... (btw... I'm not that savvy with this technology, so if someone knows how to upload the pdf for everyone to access, Please... Let me know!)

[ThePythonicCow]

Celestial restrictions .... this guy I have been keeping an eye on and he is rocking the boat... he has been tracking the incoming events for a long time..


Interesting ... but I don't see a relation to Elenin (We have Nibiru in the thread title also of course).

I copied phillipbbg's post to another thread, which might be equally or more relevant: Nibiru found on google sky ? -- Post #30 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28508-Nibiru-found-on-google-sky&p=291141&viewfull=1#post291141).

[Providence]

I'm in Kentucky, US, watching the national news channels and there is no video, no pictures, no officials from the Virginia area being shown. The mayor of New York had a press conference about the quake, but what about Virginia??? And as yet, there is no information on the 10 Colorado quakes today, one was a 5.3, and hardly any information? WTF?????

[Sidney]

Thats weird, because I watched BOTH videos this morning in full. Now they don't work. HMFFF

[Calz]

Cross posting from gio on the "Ranch" thread passing along a message from James Gilliland.

I know this is more along the lines of "spiritual" information rather than physical observations or science ... but I think the spiritual message(s) should be taken together with other "more tangible evidence".

IMHO


Greetings,

the latest from James newsletter...

_____________________________

#6669 ECETI On Elenin/ Nibiru

"Many have asked for me to comment on the Elenin/Nibiru debate. I was told to be
prepared a long time ago for major changes, social, economic and physical Earth
changes. The date was be finished by Sept. 10th, 20011 and home by the 17th. I
find it odd that this corresponds with the flyby of Comet Elenin. I asked again
recently and was told the same message; BIG CHANGES are coming to Earth. Then we
have the NASA warning to their people to start preparing, store food, water,
etc. There has been a massive global effort to build underground facilities to
house thousands yet in this country they are for the elite. The Banksters have
cut and run, the stock markets are crashing, earthquake and volcanic activity is
off the scale and the erratic weather, tornadoes, floods etc are also
unprecedented. These changes are not just with Earth they are happening
throughout the galaxy. We are moving into alignment with galactic core, the
center of this galaxy has recently flared into a massive energetic bubble, the
sun is going postal with CMEs and flares, the magnetic fields are weakening and
we are getting bombarded with cosmic rays and other energies like never before.
Yet many are waiting for 2012 even though the Mayan calendar ends Oct. 28th
2011?

Many are still sending out that feel good message, nothing is going to change
let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya. Nature has a different story and what was
prophecy is now statistics. If you are still watching TV and feeding into the
social consciousness network you will not have a clue as to what is really
happening in your galaxy. We know there will be some people who will be watching
their TVs right up to the last minute and wonder where the signal went, why
their cell phones and internet does not work, why the power went off and why
their debit card does not work? They will ask what is that loud roaring sound?
Are these the big winds, the tsunamis, something really big passing by? We know
not everyone chose to make it through the changes and everyone is eternal in the
long run. We also know there are many so addicted and attached to their reality
never changing they will never listen to this message. We also know there are
many false prophets, feel good messages with a false sense of security and
imbalanced messages with no hope or solutions, just fear.

We all need to read between the lines. Use our own inner sensitivity, treat them
like oranges, peel them eat the meat, spit out the seeds. Ultimately it is up to
individuals to come to their own conclusions, educate themselves and use
discernment. I personally do not see this economy continuing, it is
unsustainable numerically and karmicly. The major increase in volcanic activity
and earthquakes, violent storms etc. is obviously building up to something.
Something major is perturbing all the planets in our solar system including the
Sun; which has fired a few near miss flares capable of taking down the grid as
it did in the past. Scientists are warning it is just a matter of time before
one is geoeffective. The quakes, floods and tsunamis continue to threaten or
cause melt downs of the unstable nuclear facilities which are already leaking
time bombs. Nuclear fallout is raining down on humanity along with chemtrails
laced with barium, aluminum, strontium and other biologicals yet your government
is in denial. The flu shots are laced with live virus, detergents, mercury etc
and your waters are filled with up to 600 carcinogenic agents not to mention
fluoride. Your food is laced with other toxins, preservatives, aspartame etc and
now GMO foods; which sterilize cows and rats that eat them have entered the
picture.

How long can the corruption, pollution, parasitical and predatory behavior
continue. How long can the corporations who capitalize on war, disease, and
environmental destruction continue before they run out of people and resources?
At what point is it time to reboot the planet? Does nature, God or the rest of
the cosmos have anything to say about the direction and destiny of Earth? Time
to step aside, let the old world go and start creating a new world. One that is
based on harmony with each other and nature. These times were foretold by all
the ancients, mystics, saints and sages. We are now in them and it is not a year
away. Be well."
James Gilliland www.eceti.org

[Hervé]

Amazing! (although I have no idea what this is, why they are showing it, when the 'picture' was taken, etc..)

Thanks :)

Hi dourpil!

This might answer your question (from:
http://astroblogger.blogspot.com/2011/06/comet-2010-x1-elenin-nibiru-and-google.html):

Comet 2010 X1 Elenin, Nibiru and Google Sky


Virtual telescopes such as Google Sky (http://www.google.com/sky/), World Wide Telescope (http://www.worldwidetelescope.org/Home.aspx) and Wiki Sky (http://www.wikisky.org/) have allowed people to explore the sky in great detail at many different wavelengths. However, if you are not familiar with the sky some things may be of great puzzlement; especially the difference in view between the infrared sky views and the visual data.

First off you should know something about the images. All the programs use the same databases, for example the Palomar Deep Sky Survey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Geographic_Society_%E2%80%93_Palomar_Observatory_Sky_Survey) for visual data, and the IRAS survey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRAS) for infrared images. There are (very) minor discrepancies in the location and appearance of objects between the three programs due to they way the images are digitized/compressed and stitched together, but they are using exactly same images.

Another thing to remember is that the DSS plates date from 1956-1958 (yes, that's right), and the IRAS images date from 1983. So they reflect the sky situation decades ago. Nonetheless, the sky revealed by these images can be quite astounding.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FgKwPBKWZpo/SpRZMJQFtMI/AAAAAAAABoc/OydnxbNi_vQ/s320/Google_visible.png (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FgKwPBKWZpo/SpRZMJQFtMI/AAAAAAAABoc/OydnxbNi_vQ/s1600-h/Google_visible.png) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FgKwPBKWZpo/SpRZLnvH32I/AAAAAAAABoU/LhwadiF7npc/s320/Google_IRAS.png (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FgKwPBKWZpo/SpRZLnvH32I/AAAAAAAABoU/LhwadiF7npc/s1600-h/Google_IRAS.png)
Take for example this image of a bright, angry looking object in the IR view of Google Sky (right image, also seen in world wide telescope and wiki sky, search on the following coordinates 09:47:27, 13:16:27), absent from the visible light view (left image).

This object is now being touted as comet Elenin, a while ago it was being touted as Nibiru (http://astroblogger.blogspot.com/2009/08/nibiru-it-is-not.html). In fact it is is the carbon star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_star) CW Leonis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC_%2B10216) (also known as IRC +10216, PK 221+45 1 and the Peanut Nebula (http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=IRC+%2B10216&jsessionid=9B28A5414FB4CCC3FF061DAD0CCB1629)). CW Leonis is the brightest object in the 10 μm infrared sky, and well known to experienced observers. But if you are new to the field, it can look quite mysterious.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mDD-d1NSz1I/Tgc-g0Zeb4I/AAAAAAAADgM/tTjjY9UEK_A/s320/Wikisky_Arifact_1.png (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mDD-d1NSz1I/Tgc-g0Zeb4I/AAAAAAAADgM/tTjjY9UEK_A/s1600/Wikisky_Arifact_1.png) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YcU8Wgdjtas/Tgc-hDq7sSI/AAAAAAAADgU/cwMZT-sv7Pk/s320/Wikisky_Artifact_2.png (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YcU8Wgdjtas/Tgc-hDq7sSI/AAAAAAAADgU/cwMZT-sv7Pk/s1600/Wikisky_Artifact_2.png)

Now take a look at the object in the left hand image above (this time in Wikisky at 06h 08m 55s, 22 47' 21", you can find it at the same coordinates in Google Sky and WorldWide Telescope). This also has been claimed to represent Nibiru (http://www.✰.net/nibiru-planet-x-maybe-update-wwt-is-the-newer-location/) and/or Elenin. It actually looks like a planetary nebula, a bit like the Cats Eye Nebula (http://www.✰.net/nibiru-planet-x-maybe-update-wwt-is-the-newer-location/), however, zooming out reveals its true nature (see image right).

It is an artifact, a vagrant blob of light on those plates, there's a few of them on the larger image (and some edge artifacts from differing exposures between the plates as they stitched the images together, Google sky uses a different approach to compressing the images, so the object and the other artifacts look slightly different). Despite being one of the best instruments of its time, the 48 inch telescope at Palomar Observatory did not always take perfect images.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4z90aqOCDL8/Tgc-gcuv2YI/AAAAAAAADgE/l5NKVDwNuuE/s320/Wikisky_SPica_Artifact2.png (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4z90aqOCDL8/Tgc-gcuv2YI/AAAAAAAADgE/l5NKVDwNuuE/s1600/Wikisky_SPica_Artifact2.png)

A nice example is this image near Spica in Virgo, where you can see an image of the primary mirror in the picture just above Spica (the bright star in the target box).

As well, while the Palomar survey was roughly only 99% complete, there are some areas where plates were not of high enough quality (or don't digitize well), some of these blank spots are claimed as "cover-ups", but just represent areas of data loss (http://www.2012hoax.org/google-sky) for one or more reasons.

Similarly, the IRAS survey was not complete (around 96% of the sky), and there are a number of missing frames where images weren't taken, or the images were defective.

So while the virtual telescopes can give us unprecedented views of the sky at multiple wavelengths, what you see can occasionally be difficult to interpret. Before rushing off to claim comets or brown dwarf stars, take a bit of time to become antiquated with astronomical objects, and the characteristics of the images. You may learn something wonderful.

[Meesh]

Today's update from sydneystargazers.com seems reassuring. This site has been recommended as a credible site several times on Avalon:

http://sydneystargazers.com/2011/08/25/comet-elenin-beginning-to-fade-dramtically/

[nearing]

From Meesh's link:


And Michael Matizzo has stated the following:

Find below my visual observation of comet Elenin tonight August 20, 2011
I hope I am wrong but the comet appears distinctly fainter, by half a
magnitude, and more diffuse than last nights observation.
Can anyone else confirm this?
If this is true, then it is unlikely the comet will survive perihelion.

Ah, but will the Dwarf Star right behind it?

[nearing]

40 Volcanoes Erupting Today: Twelve Threaten Life (http://globalrumblings.blogspot.com/2011/08/40-volcanoes-erupting-today.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GlobalRumblings+%28Global+Rumblings%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher)

Quote written two days ago, before the Colorado and Virginia and Peru Earthquakes:

"IT IS A MATTER OF DAYS BEFORE WE START SEEING SOME VERY STRONG EARTHQUKES HIT NORTH AMERICA , WE NEED TO ACT NOW , NOT AFTER SOMETHING HAPPENS , IT WILL BE TOO LATE BY THEN ."

[ghostrider]

40 Volcanoes Erupting Today: Twelve Threaten Life (http://globalrumblings.blogspot.com/2011/08/40-volcanoes-erupting-today.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GlobalRumblings+%28Global+Rumblings%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher)

Quote written two days ago, before the Colorado and Virginia and Peru Earthquakes:

"IT IS A MATTER OF DAYS BEFORE WE START SEEING SOME VERY STRONG EARTHQUKES HIT NORTH AMERICA , WE NEED TO ACT NOW , NOT AFTER SOMETHING HAPPENS , IT WILL BE TOO LATE BY THEN ." exactly = hope for best- prepare for the worst. something is making the sun go crazy, all the quakes, hurricane irene, september approaching, I figure the power will be off for at least three months, seven cases of water for two people, any food that has a three to six months shelf life, no matter what people will need water/food and some kind of plan of what to do to avoid panic and post tramatic stress. gonna need to be mentally stronger that ever before...I'm worried about all the ones who still for whatever reason don't want to believe what is about to happen. try and imagine no electricity for 3 to 6 months what will you do? how will you live? what will you need? you have no cell phone, no computers, no lights, no hot water, no heaters with winter approaching, no way to resupply yourself with things you need. counting days/months/ season's back to stone age we go. not a soul on earth can stop it. we will live through what the ancients have foretold for thousands of years, it's all leading up to the next few weeks/months. IF your still alive in january 2012 you have a good chance at survival. wakey wakey avalonians. If I'm wrong you lost nothing, If I and a few others are right = you LIVE.

[Carolin]

40 Volcanoes Erupting Today: Twelve Threaten Life (http://globalrumblings.blogspot.com/2011/08/40-volcanoes-erupting-today.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GlobalRumblings+%28Global+Rumblings%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher)

Quote written two days ago, before the Colorado and Virginia and Peru Earthquakes:

"IT IS A MATTER OF DAYS BEFORE WE START SEEING SOME VERY STRONG EARTHQUKES HIT NORTH AMERICA , WE NEED TO ACT NOW , NOT AFTER SOMETHING HAPPENS , IT WILL BE TOO LATE BY THEN ."

Does anybody know what program or website this is from?

[nearing]

I tried to find it, Carolin, but couldn't. Of course, that doesn't mean it's not out there.

[Carolin]

I would love to hear your comments about this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg8U2PFW5PI&feature=uploademail

[ghostrider]

I would love to hear your comments about this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg8U2PFW5PI&feature=uploademail

nasa is showing old data like they always do, look at jpl, elenin is directly opposite the camera angle, it's on the backside of stereo b . if you looking at jupiter you would have to do a 180 to see elenin.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

I don't think any of these youtubers are taking into account the fact that they know nothing about astrophysics.

[Rantaak]

Wow this is pretty concise and to the point


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scZAOQNopok

While this guy has a lot of interesting points (some of which are now established as false), one can tell by his body language that he is being dishonest about many things. Aside from the extent he has taken to downplay his ego, he is clearly also utilizing many hypnosis techniques. Noting the intense amount of fear response that watching this video generated, I began to question the motives of its production. Also, they're selling the second half. Does the truth need to sell me anything?

[araucaria]

Wow this is pretty concise and to the point


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scZAOQNopok

While this guy has a lot of interesting points (some of which are now established as false), one can tell by his body language that he is being dishonest about many things. Aside from the extent he has taken to downplay his ego, he is clearly also utilizing many hypnosis techniques. Noting the intense amount of fear response that watching this video generated, I began to question the motives of its production. Also, they're selling the second half. Does the truth need to sell me anything?

Thank you for explaining why I found this video altogether pretty unwatchable.

Since sometime in around February of this year I have been seeing a Nibiru-type object: four colours circling a cross (see post #3 of this thread).

That would be around the time I upgraded to Windows 7...

[Hervé]

nasa is showing old data like they always do, look at jpl, elenin is directly opposite the camera angle, it's on the backside of stereo b . if you looking at jupiter you would have to do a 180 to see elenin.


????????????????????


9566



I don't think any of these youtubers are taking into account the fact that they know nothing about astrophysics.


I would add "too many commenters" to the lot.

[Hervé]

[...]
Since sometime in around February of this year I have been seeing a Nibiru-type object: four colours circling a cross (see post #3 of this thread).

That would be around the time I upgraded to Windows 7...

It pulses too!

... and the cross is a smoothed out swastika... yeah... I have seen that one too!

Fascinatingly hypnotizing...

[The Truth Is In There]

here's a recent and very good video from marshall masters/yowusa.com:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oioVNsVfYjI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oioVNsVfYjI

[araucaria]

40 Volcanoes Erupting Today: Twelve Threaten Life (http://globalrumblings.blogspot.com/2011/08/40-volcanoes-erupting-today.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GlobalRumblings+%28Global+Rumblings%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher)

Quote written two days ago, before the Colorado and Virginia and Peru Earthquakes:

"IT IS A MATTER OF DAYS BEFORE WE START SEEING SOME VERY STRONG EARTHQUKES HIT NORTH AMERICA , WE NEED TO ACT NOW , NOT AFTER SOMETHING HAPPENS , IT WILL BE TOO LATE BY THEN ."

Does anybody know what program or website this is from?

If you google the entire phrase in quotes you get two sites:
campesinossosa.blogspot.com/2011/08/40-volcanoes-erupting-today.html
globalrumblings.blogspot.com/.../40-volcanoes-erupting-today.h...

[phillipbbg]

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Quote written two days ago, before the Colorado and Virginia and Peru Earthquakes:

"IT IS A MATTER OF DAYS BEFORE WE START SEEING SOME VERY STRONG EARTHQUKES HIT NORTH AMERICA , WE NEED TO ACT NOW , NOT AFTER SOMETHING HAPPENS , IT WILL BE TOO LATE BY THEN ."

Does anybody know what program or website this is from?

One site I keep my right eye on is this one http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php) its good because it shows EVERYTHING just click on a any of the labels to get the info.... and its nice to look at the WORLD in one image to get a more practical look at what is going on....

[WillSimpson]

Elenin, if it is a brown dwarf star, will be with us, if the JPL orbit calculations are correct, within 2 months. Isnt it time we came to a consensus as to what to expect and how to protect yourself?? arguing about what it is isn't going to save you when your house falls down. IT IS TIME TO GET REAL.
Can i suggest finding an open area, maybe a national park, buying a tent, stores of food, dare i say weaponry (lol) getting prepared to inform those you love of what is DEFINITIVE and not SPECULATORY..
This is possibly the best thing to happen in the last 3600 years (lol) i am going to enjoy myself! Be at peace everyone. :D

[nearing]

Elenin, if it is a brown dwarf star, will be with us, if the JPL orbit calculations are correct, within 2 months. Isnt it time we came to a consensus as to what to expect and how to protect yourself?? arguing about what it is isn't going to save you when your house falls down. IT IS TIME TO GET REAL.
Can i suggest finding an open area, maybe a national park, buying a tent, stores of food, dare i say weaponry (lol) getting prepared to inform those you love of what is DEFINITIVE and not SPECULATORY..
This is possibly the best thing to happen in the last 3600 years (lol) i am going to enjoy myself! Be at peace everyone. :D

Not sure that any preparation other than spiritual will help any of us. This is considered an Extinction Level Event, all we can do is enjoy ourselves and our loved ones and know that we are not our bodies.

[Mark]

Here is another good seismic locator (http://www.iris.edu/seismon/).

[Operator]

I listened to Andy Lloyd on red ice radio today ...

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/07/RIR-110725.php

As a writer of The dark star he should be well informed on brown dwarfs. And he is.
I know some of you here are convinced a brown dwarf is coming our way but Andy clearly excludes that possibility.
At least when we talk about a period of months. He felt that something big might happen before the end of 2012
but NOT a brown dwarf ... !

Looking at current affairs I think that Elenin is used as a distraction. Currently many of the launches to space seem to
fail (reason why NASA stopped the shuttle program ?). Also the weather becomes more and more violent.
If you ask me our atmosphere is drastically changing. It gets electrically charged and more plasma like by the day.

I think that an unexpected discharge could create the havoc that authorities apparently are anticipating. It also connects
to the testimony of Dan Sherman ... maybe less spectacular than a brown dwarf but in my view a more realistic threat.
Remember the transformers that were on fire in Texas ... we had 2 long lasting power outages in one week here in the
Caribbean ... and there are a lot more examples when you look for them.

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[Taurean]

New kid on the block, - go to 55 min. and see with your own eyes

http://youtu.be/TicUuYwpxpM

[nearing]

New kid on the block, - go to 55 min. and see with your own eyes

http://youtu.be/TicUuYwpxpM

That looks like a satellite to me. They shimmer bright colors like that.

[Taurean]

I don't know, - this guy clearly knows his astronomy, so I wouldn't have thought he would be that easily fooled.

[greybeard]

I dont claim to know and I have no intention to spread distress or disinfo.
I take on board what doubters say.
I suspect something is affecting uour climate and upping the level of earthquake and volcanic activity but what I dont know.
Marshal Masters? Disinfo--- I dont have a clue
David Sereda I trust and he is on record as saying he would be amazed if nothing happened Dec 2012

This is dated May2011

* Marshall Masters

Without question, Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) is a very important object and one that deserves close attention. However, it long from being visible to the naked eye and in the interim, we are presently seeing is a lot of speculations, misinformation and carefully crafted disinformation. Consequently, most are in a quandary as to what this object actually is, and what that means to us.

Is Comet Elenin a clear and present danger as many believe? Alternatively, is it as astronomers now tell us, a relatively young and interesting comet but one that falls short of the criteria, needed to be dubbed a Great Comet





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[Taurean]

Like I speculated in an earlier thread, these seismic events could be the distractions that tptb are waiting for before they crash the monetary system and the gates of Hell flung open.

[Hervé]

I dont claim to know and I have no intention to spread distress or disinfo.
I take on board what doubters say.
I suspect something is affecting uour climate and upping the level of earthquake and volcanic activity but what I dont know.
Marshal Masters? Disinfo--- I dont have a clue
David Sereda I trust and he is on record as saying he would be amazed if nothing happened Dec 2012

This is dated May2011

* Marshall Masters

Without question, Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) is a very important object and one that deserves close attention. However, it long from being visible to the naked eye and in the interim, we are presently seeing is a lot of speculations, misinformation and carefully crafted disinformation. Consequently, most are in a quandary as to what this object actually is, and what that means to us.

Is Comet Elenin a clear and present danger as many believe? Alternatively, is it as astronomers now tell us, a relatively young and interesting comet but one that falls short of the criteria, needed to be dubbed a Great Comet






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oioVNsVfYjI&feature=player_embedded

Hi Chris!

Thanks for the update.

Something to keep in mind about the above M. Master video is that, in his own words, he presents "the worst case scenario." Why? He sells "preparedness" stuffs.

The other thing that got my brain squeaking: at some point in the video, he mentions the Earth entering Elenin's tail when Elenin is already beyond Earth's orbit and above it... that's not possible!

Yet he presents his stuff as "scientifically" derived... so much for that one!

Comet tail


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Diagram of a comet showing the dust trail, the dust tail (or antitail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitail)) and the gas tail. NASA


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/17pHolmes_071104_eder_vga.jpg/150px-17pHolmes_071104_eder_vga.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:17pHolmes_071104_eder_vga.jpg)http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.17/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:17pHolmes_071104_eder_vga.jpg)
Comet Holmes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Holmes) (17P/Holmes) in 2007 showing blue ion tail on right


A comet tail and coma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coma_(cometary)) are illuminated by the Sun and may become visible from Earth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth) when a comet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet) passes through the inner Solar System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System), the dust reflecting sunlight directly and the gases glowing from ionisation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion). Most comets are too faint to be visible without the aid of a telescope (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telescope), but a few each decade become bright enough to be visible to the naked eye.
The streams of dust and gas each form their own distinct tail, pointing in slightly different directions. The tail of dust is left behind in the comet's orbit in such a manner that it often forms a curved tail called the antitail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitail). At the same time, the ion tail, made of gases, always points directly away from the Sun, as this gas is more strongly affected by the solar wind than is dust, following magnetic field lines rather than an orbital trajectory. Parallax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax) viewing from the Earth may sometimes mean the tails appear to point in opposite directions.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_tail#cite_note-0)


However, a comet tail could be used for a false flag orchestrated event:



I think our biggest obstacle is passing thru the tail of elenin, could rain meteors of fire across the globe. lightworkers time to push this comet away from planet earth together we can change the future....believe or don't just meditate or pray in your own way what works for you push this thing away from earth- time to show our power is now.....

You are onto someting ghost... very close to another False Flag being prepared... here's how it could go as it has been being prepared over the last few years, here's how it's been run:


*_Various experiment in crowd reactions over pandemics: SAAR, West Nile Virus, H5N1, H1N1

*_Pandemic declaration over H1N1

*_Vaccines scam

*_Food nutrients brought down to zero while getting rid of food supplements, vitamins, CS, MMS, etc...

*_"Poisonning of the wells" through fluoridation and fracking

*_ NASA and various organisations "discovering" that viruses, bacteria and other nasty organisms survive for millions of years in space inside asteroids, meteors, COMETs, etc... and even survive a firy crash on Earth!

*_Elenin hype and accompanying doom and gloom, i.e. lowering of imune system efficiency.

*_Elenin's tail blamed for bringing in new kinds of lethal super bugs while:

*_Biological WMDs released world wide courtesy of those accusing the vast majority of the planet's population of being "useles eaters!"

Neat, eh?

[Operator]

The other thing that got my brain squeaking: at some point in the video, he mentions the Earth entering Elenin's tail when Elenin is already beyond Earth's orbit and above it... that's not possible!


I think you're right on that one ...
However there might another problem with the comet's tail. Since the tail is pointing away from the sun
the problems may appear much earlier when Elenin is more or less between earth and the sun.

Additionally I don't know exactly what happens with remnants of the tail. They are blown away with a
start velocity and will probably keep moving with that speed. There may be other influences however
like solar wind blowing them ever faster and faster ... but on the other hand things like earth gravity
might pull them back in especially when earth is exactly between the sun and Elenin.

There are lots of comets all the time and they often don't pose a threat to earth. The extraordinary
case here could be the fact that Elenin's movement is exactly in the plane of our Solar system's
planetary orbits.

[Hervé]

The other thing that got my brain squeaking: at some point in the video, he mentions the Earth entering Elenin's tail when Elenin is already beyond Earth's orbit and above it... that's not possible!


I think you're right on that one ...
However there might another problem with the comet's tail. Since the tail is pointing away from the sun
the problems may appear much earlier when Elenin is more or less between earth and the sun.

Correct: If any problem with the tail, it would be when the comet is slightly past in between Sun and Earth (around Sept. 27-Oct. 1). However, the tail would be blown "above" Earth from inside Venus' orbit.

From that date, the dust "anti-tail" will be blown higher and higher "above" Earth.

So, unless some gravity twist occurs as you mentioned, it doesn't seem that Elenin's tail will ever whip into Earth's atmosphere.

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[Operator]

Comet tail
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Diagram of a comet showing the dust trail, the dust tail (or antitail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitail)) and the gas tail. NASA


Hi Amzer,

Thanks for the material and insight ... I am learning here !
I was a little confused by the picture from Wikipedia so I looked it up and read the article.

I was intrigued by the question what could 'split' the tail into Gas and Dust.
But the picture itself is somewhat confusing. I understand the part where the Gas tail is pointing away from the sun.
The article by the way also mentions that the Gas tail could "follow magnetic field lines". Is this an indication the Gas tail could be attracted towards earth ?

The main question I have however is that it says: "The tail of dust is left behind in the comet's orbit".
The picture has a white line, an arrow suggesting direction, and says "Dust trail".
Why would in this picture the Dust tail be in a different direction than the Dust trail ?

At first (without looking with focus) I thought the white line to be e.g. earth's orbit, since most comets move almost perpendicular to our
solar system's plane. The picture would then 'fit' better.
The gas tail would still (always) point away from the sun and the Dust tail would be equal to Dust Trail i.e. perpendicular to earth's orbit.

I hope I made my question clear. Any thoughts on that ?

[Hervé]

Hi Amzer,

Thanks for the material and insight ... I am learning here !
I was a little confused by the picture from Wikipedia so I looked it up and read the article.

I was intrigued by the question what could 'split' the tail into Gas and Dust.
But the picture itself is somewhat confusing. I understand the part where the Gas tail is pointing away from the sun.
The article by the way also mentions that the Gas tail could "follow magnetic field lines". Is this an indication the Gas tail could be attracted towards earth ?

The main question I have however is that it says: "The tail of dust is left behind in the comet's orbit".
The picture has a white line, an arrow suggesting direction, and says "Dust trail".
Why would in this picture the Dust tail be in a different direction than the Dust trail ?

At first (without looking with focus) I thought the white line to be e.g. earth's orbit, since most comets move almost perpendicular to our
solar system's plane. The picture would then 'fit' better.
The gas tail would still (always) point away from the sun and the Dust tail would be equal to Dust Trail i.e. perpendicular to earth's orbit.

I hope I made my question clear. Any thoughts on that ?

Sorry, answer is in the whole article re: magnetic field lines:



Comet tail

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Diagram of a comet showing the dust trail, the dust tail (or antitail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitail)) and the gas tail. NASA


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/17pHolmes_071104_eder_vga.jpg/150px-17pHolmes_071104_eder_vga.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:17pHolmes_071104_eder_vga.jpg)http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.17/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:17pHolmes_071104_eder_vga.jpg)
Comet Holmes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Holmes) (17P/Holmes) in 2007 showing blue ion tail on right


A comet tail and coma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coma_(cometary)) are illuminated by the Sun and may become visible from Earth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth) when a comet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet) passes through the inner Solar System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System), the dust reflecting sunlight directly and the gases glowing from ionisation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion). Most comets are too faint to be visible without the aid of a telescope (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telescope), but a few each decade become bright enough to be visible to the naked eye.

The streams of dust and gas each form their own distinct tail, pointing in slightly different directions. The tail of dust is left behind in the comet's orbit in such a manner that it often forms a curved tail called the antitail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitail). At the same time, the ion tail, made of gases, always points directly away from the Sun, as this gas is more strongly affected by the solar wind than is dust, following magnetic field lines rather than an orbital trajectory. Parallax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax) viewing from the Earth may sometimes mean the tails appear to point in opposite directions.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_tail#cite_note-0)

While the solid nucleus of comets is generally less than 50 km across, the coma may be larger than the Sun, and ion tails have been observed to extend 3.8 astronomical units (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_units) (570 million km).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_tail#cite_note-Yeoman-1) The observation of antitails contributed significantly to the discovery of solar wind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_wind).[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_tail#cite_note-2) The ion tail is the result of ultraviolet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet) radiation blowing electrons off particles in the coma. Once the particles have been ionised, they form a plasma which in turn induces a magnetosphere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetosphere) around the comet. The comet and its induced magnetic field form an obstacle to outward flowing solar wind particles. The comet is supersonic relative to the solar wind, so a bow shock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_shock) is formed upstream of the comet (i.e., facing the sun), in the flow direction of the solar wind. In this bow shock, large concentrations of cometary ions (called "pick-up ions") congregate and act to "load" the solar magnetic field with plasma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_(physics)). The field lines "drape" around the comet forming the ion tail.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_tail#cite_note-pp_864-3) (This is similar to the formation of planetary magnetospheres.)

Hence, Earth and comet magnetospheres could interact if close enough to overcome their originating solar wind.



Clicking on the diagrammatic picture leads you to this description:


This is an artist's concept of a comet dust trail and dust tail. The trail can only be seen in the light of radiated heat. The dust trail is made of particles that are the size of sand grains and pebbles. They are large enough that they are not affected much by the Sun's light and solar wind. The dust tail, on the other hand, is made of grains the size of cigarette-smoke particles. These grains are blown out of the dust coma near the comet nucleus by the Sun's light.


Hope this clarifies your query, as the dust trail would follow the orbital path of the comet (white line in the picture).

Earth doesn't seem to attract much dust from the Moon... and this comet tail or trail will be much further away than the Moon.

[TargeT]

Comet tail
[QUOTE]
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Jump to: navigation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_tail#mw-head), search (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_tail#p-search)
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Diagram of a comet showing the dust trail, the dust tail (or antitail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitail)) and the gas tail. NASA


Hi Amzer,

Thanks for the material and insight ... I am learning here !
I was a little confused by the picture from Wikipedia so I looked it up and read the article.

I was intrigued by the question what could 'split' the tail into Gas and Dust.
But the picture itself is somewhat confusing. I understand the part where the Gas tail is pointing away from the sun.
The article by the way also mentions that the Gas tail could "follow magnetic field lines". Is this an indication the Gas tail could be attracted towards earth ?

The main question I have however is that it says: "The tail of dust is left behind in the comet's orbit".
The picture has a white line, an arrow suggesting direction, and says "Dust trail".
Why would in this picture the Dust tail be in a different direction than the Dust trail ?

At first (without looking with focus) I thought the white line to be e.g. earth's orbit, since most comets move almost perpendicular to our
solar system's plane. The picture would then 'fit' better.
The gas tail would still (always) point away from the sun and the Dust tail would be equal to Dust Trail i.e. perpendicular to earth's orbit.

I hope I made my question clear. Any thoughts on that ?

Becarefull what you are learning,, commet tails are NOT DUST! they are an electromagnetic reaction.. we will be bathed in PLASMA from the comet, not dust.. since our planet, the WHOLE UNIVERSE (multi-verse?) is electromagnetic.. yes, this WILL have huge implications.

and it IS happening this fall (28 october is the end of the mayan long count, when will we pass through the "tail.". anyone... anyone?)

think electromagnetic, remember that magnetic fields can be multipled.. ENDLESSLY all it takes is the right.. shall we say, alignment * catalyst?

what's been happening with elenin when it lines up in certain ways...

still need more hints?

[ghostrider]

it's all relevant to elenin's position to the sun and earth in mid sep- oct. no one really knows the affects, but just in case the government has built underground cities and NASA has sent out prepare for disaster vids to it's on and off planet employees. The CIA and NSA headquarters have moved to high in the mountains in the west. real or not, man made or cosmic, things will be interesting none the less. I hope the deep impact spacecraft is gonna go out and blast whatever threatens us, then let the NWO and the PTB work their evil plan , we can handle them, but a giant rock glowing and towing debris of who knows what thats another thing. good luck to us all . peace