Nick pope questions recent UFO videos.

[manny]

Nick pope debunks recent ufo videos.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8604341/London-UFO-sighting-UKs-UFO-expert-rates-Telegraphs-X-file-videos.html

[Etherios]

OK its official Nick Pope changed camps. Here we have him not debunking these videos with info/proof of them being fake but of "logical" assumptions.

The London is near the CGI companies so its "must be" fake. !!!!
The San Paolo this sneak peak from the UFO means its fake.!!!!
The Jerusalem if you want to fake something do it properly with many different spots!!!
The Russia Its too big and too near population so it is fake.


These are not info/proof of something ... this is explaining what he thinks without any research in the matter. He says he didnt ask the radar guys in any of the countries. He says nothing about researching the videos ...

Anyway Nick Pope for me is a disinfo agent from now on. Not that i think these all are real BUT this is 100% wrong way to publicly debunk something. Its gives the public a thinking way on how to debunk ALL the UFO videos/pictures.

Mind Training on how to debunk ... all videos.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Manny......You know how to get my blood boiling with, MR 'I want to get on every TV/RADIO show going' and debunk virtually everything I see , in his nice soft Mr 'no flys on me/ I know nothing irritating English/regional accent.......

I've got one to but not as 'smarmy' ..LOL.....What really bugs me if you have not noticed by now, is apart from a couple of party pieces ( Rendlesham Forrest ) He debunks everything !! I mean everything I've heard him comment onalways ends up in the 'negative'..........
Some maybe hoax's /mis identified / anomolies / ...but he never gives off any positive 'Vibes' whether he belives in them or not....Which would not matter a 'jot' except he is put up to represent 'US'.....

If he does not believe ..'SHUT UP'....and let them contact someone else in the UFO field , and not pay this self confessed double agent to muddy the waters even more.... ( But thats his Job as a MOD employee ) ....Cheers STeve..

[manny]

agreed i think it would be good for Nick to put some of his positive findings.
of which i,m sure he would have seen or read during his years with the MOD.
this would give him much more respect and creditably.

it,s time to state what he has seen.

Mr X lost his life for wanting to disclose what he knew.
and his job was lower profile than that of Nicks.

so disinfo agent.could be.

[Realeyes]

Hi Avalonians,
Just read your posts and agree with both of you about Nick Popes perception. I saw him once many years ago at a conference. For me to go to a conference means I have worked very hard and saved every penny to attend, so my nature is to be 100% alert and take in all that I can when attending a conference. Well on this particular occasion, when it came to Nick Pope's talk, I did something I have never done before or since - I fell asleep! I was sitting on an uncomfortable cushion on the floor at the time which is even more astonishing! I guess that says it all - his talk bored me into passing out - LOL. ;)

[Cidersomerset]

Exactly Manny my point , i said all this in a similar thread a few weeks ago....He must know far more than he is disclosing ,and infact he has admitted by saying on numerous occasions ,that he cannot breach his security oath !!!..Whats the point of being a 'whistle Blower' if he can't 'Blow IT'..!!!! In my oppinion judging by the news shows he done little pieces for see U Tube ,hes the 'Debunker' not the 'Ufologist'

[manny]

Hi Avalonians,
Just read your posts and agree with both of you about Nick Popes perception. I saw him once many years ago at a conference. For me to go to a conference means I have worked very hard and saved every penny to attend, so my nature is to be 100% alert and take in all that I can when attending a conference. Well on this particular occasion, when it came to Nick Pope's talk, I did something I have never done before or since - I fell asleep! I was sitting on an uncomfortable cushion on the floor at the time which is even more astonishing! I guess that says it all - his talk bored me into passing out - LOL. ;)
thanks for the heads up,but i,m sure i would not attend any of his tours.
unless he changed his views ,and told the TRUTH.not what he has been told to say.
some of us are brought up and educated by darkness and it is the light that sets you free.

[rgray222]

I, like many here used to have a lot of time for Nick Pope but no longer. To simply say something is not real without any hard evidence or for that matter without any circumstantial evidence clearly tells me that he has had a change of heart (the reasons we can only guess at).
I wish that I could say that he has gotten more insightful over time but that simply would not be true. If anything he has had a definite change of "attitude" and perspective. For him to say, that this is where the CGI companies are therefore it must be "fake", is in no way shape or form a connection to the real world. That is tantamount to saying that every UFO that ever appeared in Southern California must be fake because that is where the movie makers are! It is a case of poor judgement but more likely it is something a bit more sinister! When you are in full stride and suddenly change your take on the world it makes no sense unless there are outside forces precipitating these changes.

[Etherios]

.. but more likely it is something a bit more sinister! ..

Well remember that the majority of the TV watchers / Mass media followers etc wont bother to research anything. SO he just debunked 4 "big" stories with no proof what so ever. The public will imprint this as reality and what ever anyone else say will be pointless. He knows he is "expert". Also he (as i said before) just "educated" the public on how to debunk possible future UFO video. I cant believe this is an error or a coincidence.

[Davidallany]

Mr. Nick Popes could have fooled me last year, but not this year. His body language, eyes and facial expression indicate that he is hiding something. This is his job; infiltrate the UFO community and confuse things.