Consciousness Calibration - Spiritual & Personal Growth inside

[Eternal_One]

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Hello Avalonians,

For the members that are interested in working toward their spiritual and personal growth, or for those that want a confirmation on how much they are advanced into their spiritual path, I propose to calibrate their consciousness. (aka LoC, Level of consciousness)

You have also the possibility to ask me by PM, in case you don't feel like to share with everyone your number.

The method was discovered by David R. Hawkins some years ago. I have found it to be pretty much accurate, and very helpful.
Now this is just another tool for personal growth, we are not here to judge you, as this number can be seen as one's soul age.
We all grow at our own pace, and all roads leads to Rome.

Here is the map of consciousness described by david hawkins:

Map of Consciousness:

http://celestinechua.com/blog/images/posts/map-of-consciousness.gif


Here are some LoC references, all calibrated from hawkins at the time of their death.
Disclaimer: Some individual suffered of mental illness or difficulties at the end of their life, hence having a toll on their LoC.

References:
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1000 - Jesus, Buddha, Zoroaster, Krishna
960 - Huangbo Xiyun
795 - Bodhidharma
760 - Mahatma Gandhi
740 - Adi Shankaracharya
740 - Dogen Zenji
730 - Plotinus [peak at 985]
720 - Ramana Maharshi [peak at 840]
720 - Moshe ben Shem-Tov
720 - Nisargadatta Maharaj
715 - Patanjali
715 - Teresa of Avila
710 - Mother Teresa
705 - Meister Eckhart
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650 - Chief Detroit
610 - Lao Tzu
590 - Confucius
590 - Louis Armstrong
580 - Saint Francis of Assisi
565 - Leonardo da Vinci
550 - Saint Augustine of Hippo
540 - Yogananda [peak at 900]
500 - Shakespeare
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499 - Sigmund Freud
499 - Einstein
499 - Newton
499 - Stephen Hawking
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220 - Nostradamus
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35 - Al Capone
6 - Jack the Ripper


Methodology:

All test are done by kinesiology, here is the method explained:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYGzLapQw7E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgMIbVGB1Lw


Disclaimer:

- All tests are subject to certain error margin, sometimes my mind can influence the test. I certainly do not pretend to be 100% accurate. Usually, the higher someone calibrate, the more in tune the person is with the creator and the more accurate are the results.
- We all have up and down. The test reflect your current state of mind and LoC, do not ask if you are having a Down. Fluctuations happens sometimes anywhere from 50 to 500 points.
- I will NOT calibrate others people beside the one asking. For obvious reasons. As this number is pretty much personal, you don't need to compare it either. Do you want to compare your age?
- I run a permission test beforehand, to ask if calibrating your consciousness is the right thing to do. If my Higher self tells me that it is not in your best interest to calibrate you, I will not proceed.
- Do not ask about your LoC everyday. Don't be obsessed by the number, work on yourself.
- This number can feed your ego, use your ego for a good thing: To commit to your spiritual and personal growth.
- This number can change pretty quickly if you work on yourself and understand the lessons that are given to you everyday. Some people can awake and skyjump in consciousness with some AHA moments.



Possible advices for raising one's LoC (level of consciousness):

Teaching from Buddha [LoC 1000]

- On life's journey faith is nourishment, virtuous deeds are a shelter, wisdom is the light by day and right mindfulness is the protection by night. If a man lives a pure life, nothing can destroy him.
- If you knew what I know about the power of giving, you would not let a single meal pass without sharing it in some way.
- Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
- Do not overrate what you have received, nor envy others. He who envies others does not obtain peace of mind.
- Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without.
- Do not speak harshly to any one; those who are spoken to will answer thee in the same way. Angry speech is painful: blows for blows will touch thee.
- You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.
- You can search throughout the entire universe for someone who is more deserving of your love and affection than you are yourself, and that person is not to be found anywhere. You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe deserve your love and affection.
- I do not believe in a fate that falls on men however they act; but I do believe in a fate that falls on them unless they act.
- It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
- Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.
- The whole secret of existence is to have no fear. Never fear what will become of you, depend on no one. Only the moment you reject all help are you freed.-
- The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the past, not to worry about the future, or not to anticipate troubles, but to live in the present moment wisely and earnestly.
- The only real failure in life is not to be true to the best one knows.
- A wise man, recognizing that the world is but an illusion, does not act as if it is real, so he escapes the suffering
- No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path.
- Pay no attention to the faults of others, things done or left undone by others. Consider only what by oneself is done or left undone.
- Thousands of candles can be lit from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened. Happiness never decreases by being shared.
- Never in this world can hatred be stilled by hatred; it will be stilled by non-hatred - this is the law Eternal.
- Once a man came unto me and denounced me on account of my observing the Way and practicing great loving-kindness. But I kept silent and did not answer him. The denunciation ceased. Then I asked him. 'If you bring a present to your neighbour and he accepts it not; does the present come back to you?' He replied, 'It will.' I said, 'You denounce me now, but as I accept it not, you must take the wrong deed back on your own person. It is like echo succeeding sound, it is like shadow following object; you never escape the effect of your own evil deeds. Be therefore mindful, and cease from doing evil.
- He who never thinks of anything as "mine" does not feel the lack of anything - he is never worried by a sense of loss.
- All things appear and disappear because of the concurrence of causes and conditions. Nothing ever exists entirely alone; everything is in relation to everything else.
- However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them?
- Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others.
- Even death is not to be feared by one who has lived wisely.
- It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways.
- The greatest prayer is patience.
- There has to be evil so that good can prove its purity above it.
- Wherever there is light, there is shadow; wherever there is length, there is shortness; wherever there is white, there is black. Just like these, as the self-nature of things can not exist alone, they are called non-substantial.
- When you realize how perfect everything is you will tilt your head back and laugh at the sky.
- No one person can ever change the truth, but the truth, once learned, can and will change the person.
- What we think, we become.


Teachings from Plotinus [peak LoC 985]

- God is not external to anyone, but is present with all things, though they are ignorant that he is so.
- Being is desirable because it is identical with Beauty, and Beauty is loved because it is Being. We ourselves possess Beauty when we are true to our own being; ugliness is in going over to another order; knowing ourselves, we are beautiful; in self-ignorance, we are ugly.
- Withdraw into yourself and look. And if you do not find yourself beautiful yet, act as does the creator of a statue that is to be made beautiful: he cuts away here, he smoothes there, he makes this line lighter, this other purer, until a lovely face has grown his work. So do you also: cut away all that is excessive, straighten all that is crooked, bring light to all that is overcast, labor to make all one glow or beauty and never cease chiseling your statue, until there shall shine out on you from it the godlike splendor of virtue, until you see the perfect goodness surely established in the stainless shrine.
- The sensitive eye can never be able to survey, the orb of the sun, unless strongly endued with solar fire, and participating largely of the vivid ray. Everyone therefore must become divine, and of godlike beauty, before he can gaze upon a god and the beautiful itself.
- All things are filled full of signs, and it is a wise man who can learn about one thing from another.
- If we speak and write, it is but as guides to those who long to see: we send them to the place itself, bidding them from words to the Vision: the teaching is of the Path and the Plan, seeing is the work of each Soul for itself


Teachings from David R. Hawkins [LoC 981]

- To understand the nature of God, it is necessary only to know the nature of love itself. To truly know love is to know and understand God; and to know God is to understand love.
- Survival is me, ego, the animal is driven by hungryness, never enough, the core of the ego is wantingness. It wants more of everything, is greedy, desiring, insatiable, you cannot satisfy it. The average person is driven by this instinct, this primitivism. This is the basic nature of the ego, survival. Once you know that, you can have compassion for it [the ego] and treat it like a pet.
- The true destiny of man is to realize the truth of the divinity of one’s source and creator which is ever present within that which has been created and is the creator ? the Self.
- We change the world not by what we say or do but as a consequence of what we have become. Thus, every spiritual aspirant serves the world.
- Spiritual progress is based on acceptance as a matter of free will and choice and thus everyone experiences only the world of their own choosing. The universe is totally free of victims and all eventualities are the unfolding of inner choice and decision.
- Spiritual truth, then, is universally true and without variation through time or place. It always brings peace, harmony, accord, love, compassion, and mercy. Truth can be identified by these qualities. All else is the invention of the ego.
- Out of an unrestricted love for God arises the willingness to surrender all motives except to serve God completely. To be a servant of God becomes one's goal rather than enlightenment. To be a perfect channel for God's love is to surrender completely and to eliminate the goal seeking of the spiritual ego. Joy itself becomes the initiator of further spiritual work. From joy and humility, the rest of the process is certain.
- Presume that the world's actual 'purpose' is perfect and fully known only to God. See it as neutral overall but with the benefit that it provides optimal opportunity for spiritual growth and the evolution of consciousness. It is a school for the enlightenment and the revelation of Divinity whereby consciousness/awareness reawakens to is Source. Thus, to pursue enlightenment in and of itself serves the world and God.
- Therefore, to benefit the world, it is necessary to change not the world but oneself.
- Be with the world without resisting.
- Trying to change the world is presuming you know better than God how the world should be.
- Don't try to heal the planet. That is the province of Divinity. Try to become the most loving creature you can become. Become the most perfect human being you can be.
- One's spiritual evolution is of greater value to society than any form of doingness. The level of compassion radiates out and contributes silently to mankind's wisdom.
- To endeavor to evolve spiritually is the greatest gift one can give.
- Ask for direction and divine assistance and surrender all personal will through devotion. Dedicate one’s life to the service of God. Commit to the goal of unconditional love and compassion for all life in all its expression and surrender all judgment to God.
- Choose to be easygoing, benign, forgiving, compassionate and unconditionally loving towards all life in all its expressions without exception, including oneself. Focus on unselfish service and the giving of love, consideration, and respect to all creatures.

Teachings from Huangbo Xiyun [LoC 960]

- There’s only the One Mind.
- Enlightenment is not gradual, but sudden. It is the life’s highest purpose.
- Dhyana practice should concentrate on eliminating all thoughts.
- Conceptual thinking and its results are totally false.
- Life dedicated to gathering merits is a waste of time; and as far as the individual karma is concerned, it’s got time-limited benefits.
- You are not the body, you are not the mind.
- All sense-based knowledge is unreal.
- No seeking! You are already THAT!


Teachings from Thea Alexander [LoC 915]

- All that is One, All that is is perfect for its time and space, All that exists within your life is put there by you for your own evolution.
- "From a purely micro view, karma doesn't exist because it is not perceived as existing."
"From a mid-point of evolution karma is acknowledged as the logical explanation for one's fortunes and misfortunes. It is believed to be real and is, therefore, real as a cause-and-effect element within a continuous time perspective.
"From a more Macro view, however, time is simultaneous, and karma is understood to be a valid element of a limited perspective regarding time. Fortunes and misfortunes are seen, from the broader perspective, not as cause and effect, but as learning opportunities specifically and carefully chosen by each soul for its own development."
- All pain, misery, and disease are the results of resisting that which is inevitable-that which we ourselves have chosen to grow on.
- The measure of a mind's evolution is its acceptance of the unacceptable. What may be unacceptable at the micro level is always acceptable at the Macro level.
- Micro man is not worried by successes, only by failures. Since he is not aware of the cumulative effect, he doesn't realize that every failure is a necessary and successful step toward complete insight. In other words, each failure is a small insight success bringing one that much closer to total insight success.


Others Source:

- We cannot offer shortcuts to enlightenment. Enlightenment is, of the moment, an opening to intelligent infinity. It can only be accomplished by the self, for the self. Another self cannot teach/learn enlightenment, but only teach/learn information, inspiration, or a sharing of love, of mystery, of the unknown that makes the other-self reach out and begin the seeking process that ends in a moment, but who can know when an entity will open the gate to the present?
- Why be concerned with the grass that blooms, withers and dies in its season only to grow once again due to the infinite love and light of the one Creator? This is the message we bring. Each entity is only superficially that which blooms and dies. In the deeper sense there is no end to being-ness.
- The quickest way to learn is to deal with other-selves. This is a much greater catalyst than dealing with the self. Dealing with the self without otherselves is akin to living without mirrors. Then the self cannot see the fruits of its beingness.
- Never lose an opportunity of seeing anything beautiful, for beauty is God's handwriting.
- Nothing external to you has any power over you.
- Every wall is a door.
- Adopt the pace of nature: her secret is patience.
- What lies behind you and what lies in front of you, pales in comparison to what lies inside of you.
- God enters by a private door into every individual.
- Happy is the hearing man; unhappy the speaking man.
- Nobody can bring you peace but yourself.
- Use what language you will, you can never say anything but what you are.
- The wise man in the storm prays to God, not for safety from danger, but deliverance from fear.
- And I say to you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you.
- In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

[Jayke]

I'm curious to discover how old my soul may be seen from your awareness...feel free to calibrate my reading Eternal_One :)

[Eternal_One]

I'm curious to discover how old my soul may be seen from your awareness...feel free to calibrate my reading Eternal_One :)

Hello Jayke.

I got 488.

Much blessings to you Jayke.

:cool:

[modwiz]

I would be interested in a reading from you. Thank you, for your efforts, in advance .

[Eternal_One]

I would be interested in a reading from you. Thank you, for your efforts, in advance .

Hello modwiz,

I got 639.

Much blessings to you.

;)

[Jayke]

Thankyou Eternal_One, very illuminating.

I remember watching David Hawkins muscle testing various phenomena several years ago...one of the things he tested was whether life has ever existed on Mars...his muscle test came back negative. Then I came to a website like Avalon and found lots of witness testimony that suggest there is indeed life on Mars and maybe even life on earth was seeded from Mars. If you were to muscle test that now, does your testing confirm the result of David Hawkins?

[Eternal_One]

Thankyou Eternal_One, very illuminating.

I remember watching David Hawkins muscle testing various phenomena several years ago...one of the things he tested was whether life has ever existed on Mars...his muscle test came back negative. Then I came to a website like Avalon and found lots of witness testimony that suggest there is indeed life on Mars and maybe even life on earth was seeded from Mars. If you were to muscle test that now, does your testing confirm the result of David Hawkins?

Sometimes test are influenced by your own mind. You really need to clear your mind or you can get incorrect results. But I can see why it can be dangerous for him to say that ET exists. It could have major damage on his works.

Anyway about the question, answer is (and double checked by my kinesiology).

Yes - There used to be life on Mars. Some of Earth people comes from the people that used to live on mars.

Just look about Boriska - The boy from Mars in google.

[Jayke]

I do feel that there's quite a strong element of subjectivity in all of this...although I do intend to take a psych-k workshop at some point, I can see how this muscle testing process will play an important role in my hypnotherapy practice once I get it all up and running properly, I think the main value in it is not to test external reality because the results that come back seem to be far too subjective...but when you can start using it as in the psych-k type method to test which beliefs your subconscious holds true then that's when we can really start using it to make some tremendous shifts within ourselves and unlock the power of our beliefs to transform our worlds.

[modwiz]

Eternal One, would you be willing to read for people via PM? I do not ask for myself, as you have already tested for me, thank you again. I ask because I sense some may be shy for one reason or another but would benefit, and possibly grow, from having this information about themselves.

It was just a thought that occurred to me.

[Eternal_One]

Eternal One, would you be willing to read for people via PM? I do not ask for myself, as you have already tested for me, thank you again. I ask because I sense some may be shy for one reason or another but would benefit, and possibly grow, from having this information about themselves.

It was just a thought that occurred to me.

Of course. I forgot to add it the to main post. However, doing it by public create a bigger commitment to improve oneself. A greater catalyst for growth, but I can understand if some people prefer by pm.

[modwiz]

Eternal One, would you be willing to read for people via PM? I do not ask for myself, as you have already tested for me, thank you again. I ask because I sense some may be shy for one reason or another but would benefit, and possibly grow, from having this information about themselves.

It was just a thought that occurred to me.

Of course. I forgot to add it the to main post. However, doing it by public create a bigger commitment to improve oneself. A greater catalyst for growth, but I can understand if some people prefer by pm.

It was my 'sense' that you had intended to include it and I do agree with your view of a greater commitment.

[greybeard]

David Hawkins tested the book of Genesis as being true, obviously there there is "life" visiting this plane then.

Im not into muscle testing personally but it certainly seems to be valid though only about 10% of the population can do it.
Iv read five of Hawkins books and got some videos.
Im not a follower but I believe he is the real deal.
The teachings are excellent and confirm what I had read and experienced already through the teaching of Ramana, Nasarrgadatta, Ramesh, Yogananda, Dr Goel the Kundalini Guru (see link) and various Western teachers who simplified the Eastern teaching for me.

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/book/details/IDK142/


Regards Chris

[Eternal_One]

David Hawkins tested the book of Genesis as being true, obviously there there is "life" visiting this plane then.

Im not into muscle testing personally but it certainly seems to be valid though only about 10% of the population can do it.
Iv read five of Hawkins books and got some videos.
Im not a follower but I believe he is the real deal.
The teachings are excellent and confirm what I had read and experienced already through the teaching of Ramana, Nasarrgadatta, Ramesh, Yogananda, Dr Goel the Kundalini Guru (see link) and various Western teachers who simplified the Eastern teaching for me.

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/book/details/IDK142/


Regards Chris

It is not the messenger that is important, it is the message. You will notice that the message is basically the same for all 'enlightened beings'.

To say that a book is total truth or not is difficult to answer. Often there are part of it that is truth, and others are not; or are only seeing one side of the coin.

[Calz]

Great thread.

Hawkins material is very compelling.

There was someone doing calibrations on another forum type website and he was suggesting that the level of consciousness for humanity overall was rising at a rate dramatically faster than at the time the book came out. Would you concur???

[Eternal_One]

Great thread.

Hawkins material is very compelling.

There was someone doing calibrations on another forum type website and he was suggesting that the level of consciousness for humanity overall was rising at a rate dramatically faster than at the time the book came out. Would you concur???

Yes, global consciousness level is rising a lot those last months / years. There are a lot of people that are suddenly awakening, and each of them awakening lead to a domino effect.

[Carmen]

Im curious, Eternal One. What level do I calibrate at. Thank you for your consideration.

[Eternal_One]

Im curious, Eternal One. What level do I calibrate at. Thank you for your consideration.

Hello Carmen.

I got 698.

Much blessings to you.

:)

[Jayke]

If I may ask where in the scale do you reside Eternal_One?

[Eternal_One]

If I may ask where in the scale do you reside Eternal_One?

Read the disclaimer part.

[Jayke]

I understand if you don't wish to disclose it...Greybeard mentioned that only 10% of people can successfully do kinesiology readings, do you recall what level Richard Hawkins said people need to be at in order to do their own calibration work...I remember it had to be someone who had moved beyond the level of self integrity but can't quite remember where on the scale it was...is it when you reach courage and go past the 200 mark or is it some place after that?

[Eternal_One]

I understand if you don't wish to disclose it...Greybeard mentioned that only 10% of people can successfully do kinesiology readings, do you recall what level Richard Hawkins said people need to be at in order to do their own calibration work...I remember it had to be someone who had moved beyond the level of self integrity but can't quite remember where on the scale it was...is it when you reach courage and go past the 200 mark or is it some place after that?

I will try to give you my view about this question. This method works because we are all connected. Now there is something called the Akashic records, which is basically a universal databank. Some people can retrieve some informations from there, if the intent is for good. So usually people calibrating under 200 dont really have a good intent. Those kind of info are pretty much sensitive, so you really need a person of "pure of heart" and working "toward the best good" to get any useful info. its pretty much well protected. It wont tell me lottery number, nor about the future. If i start to ask things that have no potential for growth for anyone, then the result will be inconsistent. But basically, people that dont calibrate over 600 almost never can get any calibration right. Some people seems to be gifted for that too.

Now this thread and my calibrations are for the good of the people I calibrate.

My calibration is in the higher zone, but I am pretty much careful about self calibration. I will not disclose it. People that can calibrate are all welcome to try to calibrate me. The whole concept about the spiritual quest is to know about yourself. I personally know what I need to work on, and all. Remember that you should not trust anyone or anything just because you read it. You need to use discernement all the time.

[greybeard]

I understand if you don't wish to disclose it...Greybeard mentioned that only 10% of people can successfully do kinesiology readings, do you recall what level Richard Hawkins said people need to be at in order to do their own calibration work...I remember it had to be someone who had moved beyond the level of self integrity but can't quite remember where on the scale it was...is it when you reach courage and go past the 200 mark or is it some place after that?

Over 200 it is possible to do this -- only 15% of the world population are above 200.
Best to have two people doing it, The questions much be integreous, you must have a desire to know the truth without agenda and there in lies the difficulty.
Be clear the levels are no better than ---just a guide to where we are in this incarnation and there fore what we need to work on to move to the next level.
Its just like moving from one class room to the next.

Hawkins suggests that you have the intention to be kind to all life including your own no matter what

There is much value in the later books "I" for example.
The words are carriers of the power of enlightenment,

This is good cd set if you can acess torrent

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4775021/Dr._David_R._Hawkins_-_The_Discovery

also

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4784835/Dr._David_R._Hawkins_-_The_Highest_Level_of_Enlightenment

Regards Chris

[Calz]

That was at the time the book was written.

If, as some are picking up on, global consciousness is rising rapidly ... then perhaps the scale is "outdated"???

I read and thoroughly enjoyed the book but have not tried doing calibrations myself so I cannot verify one way or the other.

If we are indeed having a rise in "vibration" at the end of the "cycle" then does it not make sense that this rise in consciousness level as measured by the Hawkins method might possibly reflect that as well???

[Eternal_One]

That was at the time the book was written.

If, as some are picking up on, global consciousness is rising rapidly ... then perhaps the scale is "outdated"???

I read and thoroughly enjoyed the book but have not tried doing calibrations myself so I cannot verify one way or the other.

If we are indeed having a rise in "vibration" at the end of the "cycle" then does it not make sense that this rise in consciousness level as measured by the Hawkins method might possibly reflect that as well???

The scale is just a scale. The rule of the game never changes, its only the players that get better.

[Jayke]

has anyone looked into aligning this scale with the buddhist view of the skandhas, Hawkins says that intellectuals like Albert Einstein were incapable of moving past 499 because that is as high as logic and reason can take us...this is similar to the buddhist view of the skandha of conception, the level of mind that can't see past it's own concepts. I'm guessing breaking through the skandha of volition would be at the 700 mark and then puryifing that skhanda would lead all the way up to the 1000. Any thoughts

[Eternal_One]

has anyone looked into aligning this scale with the buddhist view of the skandhas, Hawkins says that intellectuals like Albert Einstein were incapable of moving past 499 because that is as high as logic and reason can take us...this is similar to the buddhist view of the skandha of conception, the level of mind that can't see past it's own concepts. I'm guessing breaking through the skandha of volition would be at the 700 mark and then puryifing that skhanda would lead all the way up to the 1000. Any thoughts

The problem for people calibrating around 400, is the following: They need proof of everything, because they are ultra logical and scientifical person. Nothing is wrong with that, but in the game of life, we are all blind. And the only way to cure this blindness is by having faith. There is almost no other way.

Without faith, you will never start to see the big picture. And thats the major wall for scientific mind.

And yes, there are others systems that explain the same thing. The path is pretty narrow. We all get to same conclusions but by different roads.

[Carmen]

Quote from David Hawkins book that is very significant for me:

"The individual human mind is like a computer terminal connected to a giant database. The database is human consciousness itself, of which our own cognizance is merely an individual expression, but with its roots in the common consciousness of all mankind. This database is the realm of genius; because to be human is to participate in the database, everyone, by virtue of his birth, has access to genius. The unlimited information contained in the database has now been shown to be readily available to anyone in a few seconds, at any time and in any place. This is indeed an astonishing discovery, bearing the power to change lives, both individually and collectively, to a degree never yet anticipated. The database transcends time, space and all limitations of individual consciousness."

[onawah]

has anyone looked into aligning this scale with the buddhist view of the skandhas, Hawkins says that intellectuals like Albert Einstein were incapable of moving past 499 because that is as high as logic and reason can take us...this is similar to the buddhist view of the skandha of conception, the level of mind that can't see past it's own concepts. I'm guessing breaking through the skandha of volition would be at the 700 mark and then puryifing that skhanda would lead all the way up to the 1000. Any thoughts

It puzzles me that Hawkins said Einstein was stuck at 499, since many of Einstein's insights came as a result of direct mystical experiences.

Also, from many reports which can be found here and on Project Camelot and other good sources, there is plenty of human life on Mars now, and there is a secret underground base there which originated from Earth.

[Jayke]

The problem for people calibrating around 400, is the following: They need proof of everything, because they are ultra logical and scientifical person. Nothing is wrong with that, but in the game of life, we are all blind. And the only way to cure this blindness is by having faith. There is almost no other way.

Without faith, you will never start to see the big picture. And thats the major wall for scientific mind.

And yes, there are others systems that explain the same thing. The path is pretty narrow. We all get to same conclusions but by different roads.

Isn't faith just another concept, another trap of the mind...i recall Jesus saying that people who try to cure their blindness by having faith are like cattle that are tied to a post, they can walk forward forever but until they cut the rope they're only ever going to walk in circles.

Letting go of thoughts, moving beyond concepts, breaking through any idea that anything really needs to be calibrated or quantified because instead they realise that everything is divine in the eyes of God... Seeing things from that divine perspective and being able to embody that divinity at every level without applying judgement is the only way we can truly turn on the lights and restore vision to a clouded mind IMO

[Eternal_One]

has anyone looked into aligning this scale with the buddhist view of the skandhas, Hawkins says that intellectuals like Albert Einstein were incapable of moving past 499 because that is as high as logic and reason can take us...this is similar to the buddhist view of the skandha of conception, the level of mind that can't see past it's own concepts. I'm guessing breaking through the skandha of volition would be at the 700 mark and then puryifing that skhanda would lead all the way up to the 1000. Any thoughts

It puzzles me that Hawkins said Einstein was stuck at 499, since many of Einstein's insights came as a result of direct mystical experiences.

Also, from many reports which can be found here and on Project Camelot and other good sources, there is plenty of human life on Mars now, and there is a secret underground base there which originated from Earth.

Einstein pretty much give you the answer:
"If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts"

[Jayke]

You're completely right onawah, that's precisely why I came to the conclusion that Mr Hawkins system is based on the subjectivity of personal belief so as long as your using it to enhance your own life its a great vehicle to accelerate change, the moment you start to try n quantify external reality, your just projecting yourself onto the external and creating division where none ought to exist, we're all spiritual in nature and we all possess every quality from every level imo

[Eternal_One]

You're completely right onawah, that's precisely why I came to the conclusion that Mr Hawkins system is based on the subjectivity of personal belief so as long as your using it to enhance your own life its a great vehicle to accelerate change, the moment you start to try n quantify external reality, your just projecting yourself onto the external and creating division where none ought to exist, we're all spiritual in nature and we all possess every quality from every level imo

Personal belief when i calibrated you and others without knowing anything about you?

[Carmody]

I would be interested in a reading from you. Thank you, for your efforts, in advance .

Hello modwiz,

I got 639.

Much blessings to you.

;)

you are making me curious now....

[Eternal_One]

I would be interested in a reading from you. Thank you, for your efforts, in advance .

Hello modwiz,

I got 639.

Much blessings to you.

;)

you are making me curious now....

Are you asking for a calibration or not?

[onawah]

Indeed. Thoughts to ponder...

If you will pardon one simple-minded observation on my part: I have received what I considered to be highly inaccurate conclusions based on muscle testing due to the fact that my arm simply became tired after being pushed down repeatedly. :doh::laugh:

[Eternal_One]

Indeed. Thoughts to ponder...

If you will pardon one simple-minded observation on my part: I have received what I considered to be highly inaccurate conclusions based on muscle testing due to the fact that my arm simply became tired after being pushed down repeatedly. :doh::laugh:

Try with your fingers.

[Ian Gordon]

Hi Eternal one can I graciously ask for a reading,
Love and light

[Eternal_One]

Hi Eternal one can I graciously ask for a reading,
Love and light

Hello Ian Gordon,

I got 569.

:)

[Ian Gordon]

Many thanks ;)

[Jayke]

Personal belief when i calibrated you and others without knowing anything about you?

Lmao

this isn't a cattle market, if you brand a person with a few numbers it doesn't give you any authority or insight into the totality of who they are as a human.
You calibrated a part of us maybe within a small snapshot window of time but did you really calibrate the whole of us...honestly? being in the highly intellectual band does that mean I can't move into a state of love, Joy, forgiveness...anything on those levels above the band you you placed me on. We're all divine beings we can move into any of those higher levels and back down again with the snap of our fingers once we learn how. Even a Jesus was able to experience rage, a buddha knows the sorrows of pride...it's through their experience of those things that they get to teach us the importance of transmuting those aspects of our reality. We contain within us the totality of everything and there's no getting around that, we each have to accept that we're gods in our own right and any attempt to label our current experience of reality may give us a small amount of insight but it can also hold us back and put barriers up where their wasn't any before.


The most tragic mistake any human can make is to believe their perception of reality is reality itself - Richard Bandler

By Richard Hawkins own admission we're all high enough on here to calibrate our own realities with a high level of integrity. There is a way we can prove this calibration empirically right now and that's for everyone who's received a score of over 200 to do their own readings and everyone post all the results they've found. I guarantee everyone will have varying results based on their own subconscious beliefs and information they've picked up about each other. I did a reading on you eternal one and it came back 621, how does that fit in with your current self image? This kineseology is just too subjective to be of significant value when it comes to discerning the character of others...on yourself it's a perfect tool for change but like I've said a few times already, on external reality it falls way short to be of any real value IMO

[modwiz]

Personal belief when i calibrated you and others without knowing anything about you?

Lmao

this isn't a cattle market, if you brand a person with a few numbers it doesn't give you any authority or insight into the totality of who they are as a human.
You calibrated a part of us maybe within a small snapshot window of time but did you really calibrate the whole of us...honestly? being in the highly intellectual band does that mean I can't move into a state of love, Joy, forgiveness...anything on those levels above the band you you placed me on. We're all divine beings we can move into any of those higher levels and back down again with the snap of our fingers once we learn how. Even a Jesus was able to experience rage, a buddha knows the sorrows of pride...it's through their experience of those things that they get to teach us the importance of transmuting those aspects of our reality. We contain within us the totality of everything and there's no getting around that, we each have to accept that we're gods in our own right and any attempt to label our current experience of reality may give us a small amount of insight but it can also hold us back and put barriers up where their wasn't any before.


The most tragic mistake any human can make is to believe their perception of reality is reality itself - Richard Bandler

By Richard Hawkins own admission we're all high enough on here to calibrate our own realities with a high level of integrity. There is a way we can prove this calibration empirically right now and that's for everyone who's received a score of over 200 to do their own readings and everyone post all the results they've found. I guarantee everyone will have varying results based on their own subconscious beliefs and information they've picked up about each other. I did a reading on you eternal one and it came back 621, how does that fit in with your current self image? This kineseology is just too subjective to be of significant value when it comes to discerning the character of others...on yourself it's a perfect tool for change but like I've said a few times already, on external reality it falls way short to be of any real value IMO

I smelled this this point of view coming. The Elite watch as we complain about giveaways rather than not taking them or taking them and walking away.

Thank you Eternal One for being selfless enough to offer something that you had to know would produce this effect in a few here.

Love compels us to do no less.

[Jayke]

I smelled this attack coming from this one. First to ask for a sample though. The Elite watch as we complain about giveaways rather than not taking them or taking them and walking away.

I am guessing this one did not like his score.

Thank you Eternal One for being selfless enough to offer something that you had to know would produce this effect in a few here.

Love compels us to do no less.

Was it really an attack or just a point of view, no one has addressed any of my concerns regarding this calibration game being nothing more than projection games...I'm wielding the sword of truth at the process of calibration not against any individuals involved, if people want to take sides thats fine but I have geniuine concerns over Hawkins calibration methods and i'm looking for deeper insight, which no one has yet been able to offer because they're too busy projecting attacks of their own.

[Jayke]

i was first to ask for a sample because I had a strong intuition that this calibration process was based on projection. When the reading came back and didn't match up to my experience of reality then I knew my intuitions to be true. And now I'm addressing my intuitions, opening myself up to attack to resolve the misgivings I have about the process and I end up getting attacked in return. Lets address the concerns and not make this personal shall we, there's still questions that deserve to be answered.

[ceetee9]

This is the first I've heard of David R. Hawkins and kinesiology, but I was highly skeptical of this "consciousness calibration" so I did a quick search and came up with the following assessment of claims made in his book Power vs. Force http://www.spiritualteachers.org/david_hawkins.htm--for what it's worth. My intent is not to refute his claims, but just to provide another point of view.

[greybeard]

Leaving aside the calibrations.
Having studied the teachings of enlightened masters for years I will say that his teachings are virtually identical in essence to the rest.
I could not fault him on any of it.
The value is that he is teaching for a western culture so the likes of the Indian teachers reference to the Vedas -- Sanskrit etc are kept short relevant and understandable.
The map of consciousness is helpful as a guide, never mind the calibrating-- you can identify were you are and what you need to do from reading the resume of it.
It is very similar to psychiatric guides for evaluating levels of mental health.

You will always find critical comments on the net some valid some not.
People who are successful attract comment
His resume is impressive so I would suggest you check it out.
As said the teaching in the books is valid and impressive in its detail.

Regards Chris

http://www.veritaspub.com/index.php?page=about

[Carolin]

Leaving aside the calibrations.
Having studied the teachings of enlightened masters for years I will say that his teachings are virtually identical in essence to the rest.
I could not fault him on any of it.
The value is that he is teaching for a western culture so the likes of the Indian teachers reference to the Vedas -- Sanskrit etc are kept short relevant and understandable.
The map of consciousness is helpful as a guide, never mind the calibrating-- you can identify were you are and what you need to do from reading the resume of it.
It is very similar to psychiatric guides for evaluating levels of mental health.

You will always find critical comments on the net some valid some not.
People who are successful attract comment
His resume is impressive so I would suggest you check it out.
As said the teaching in the books is valid and impressive in its detail.

Regards Chris

http://www.veritaspub.com/index.php?page=about

I agree 100% Chris!! I love love love Dr David Hawkins!!! His theories absolutely resonate with me and his talks always make me laugh. I do think his teachings could be influenced by his Catholic upbringing but I think all teachings are tainted by the vessel they are carried in.

[RMorgan]

Hello brother!

I´ve sent you a PM, but feel free to answer me here as well! I would really appreciate your readings! :)

Thank you so much in advance,

Raf.

[truthseekerdan]

I know many will not like what I have to say, and might even attack me. However, I believe it's my duty to speak out. Spirituality today has become a quasi-religion with many 'mind concepts', ideas and practices. True Spirituality has nothing to do with any of those things. Jesus said to unite and love one another. A mind that sees a world without love sees a world divided. As long as we perceive the world as divided, we are in conflict. When we want only love we will see nothing but love. The only thing we are able to give to anyone is love. The only thing we can receive from anyone is love. If we believe we have received anything else, it is because we thought we had the ability to give something else. We alone can make the decision to finally come together in Unity and Unconditional Love, or argue and fight over mind matters and be controlled and exploited by TPTB.

Much Unity and Love Consciousness

[hholder]

May I have a reading also Eternal_One?

[sanjosenian]

Very interesting thread...I'm curious now! May I have a reading too, Eternal_One?

Thanks.

Sanjosenian

[pharoah21]

Pharoah21 also requesting a reading Eternal_One?

Many thanks :)

Great thread btw

[Carmody]

I would be interested in a reading from you. Thank you, for your efforts, in advance .

Hello modwiz,

I got 639.

Much blessings to you.

;)

you are making me curious now....

Are you asking for a calibration or not?

Well, my back could use some work, but that's Modwiz's department. :) (Jacob's Ladder context)

Like a game of Blackjack, 'hit me'. :p

[Eternal_One]

i was first to ask for a sample because I had a strong intuition that this calibration process was based on projection. When the reading came back and didn't match up to my experience of reality then I knew my intuitions to be true. And now I'm addressing my intuitions, opening myself up to attack to resolve the misgivings I have about the process and I end up getting attacked in return. Lets address the concerns and not make this personal shall we, there's still questions that deserve to be answered.

Well, if you make your mind before the thing happen. Then for sure the result will meet what you expected. Now i have already calibrated thousands of people and books, I know what kind of reaction it bring for some.

I speak from experience, this method is really effective, if you understand it is not perfect and the limitation. Your sword of truth is only yours. I dont claim to speak the truth, it is not the realm of anyone here in 3D to speak the truth. Even Jesus kept silent when someone asked him what is the truth. The truth is not something you can explain with words, it is something to be experienced. If someone say they speak truth, I would be very very suspicious.

I just talk from direct experience and discernement. But if it does not resonate with you, all good. I dont disagree that we all have the potential for being a jesus or a buddha, I just say that there is a way to mesure your spiritual progress. And yes it is useful for some spiritual seeker. The same way you get grade at School. Don't get me wrong, we are all One, everybody make it sooner or later. I too promote unity, compassion and unconditionnal love above all.

People that want to see the world divided will always see it that way. This method is useful because it force you to work on yourself even more. To say that we are all at the same level is foolish. There is a progression. There is a path.

Now I know this thread will be useful for some, and some will find it bull****. There is no way to please everybody anyway. If you dont like the calibration method, at the very least read the teachings of enlightened beings.

Trust your own experience and use discernment .

[Eternal_One]

May I have a reading also Eternal_One?

Hello, I got 530.

Much Blessings to you :)

[Eternal_One]

Very interesting thread...I'm curious now! May I have a reading too, Eternal_One?

Thanks.

Sanjosenian

Hello Sanjosenian,

I got 483.

:)

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Pharoah21 also requesting a reading Eternal_One?

Many thanks :)

Great thread btw

Hello,

I got 627.

:)

[pharoah21]

Thanks for that Eternal_One, I admire how you decide to this for us without expecting anything in return, and continuing to do readings for people while receiving a whole lot of negative comments.

Very admirable. Thank you.

[Eternal_One]

Thanks for that Eternal_One, I admire how you decide to this for us without expecting anything in return, and continuing to do readings for people while receiving a whole lot of negative comments.

Very admirable. Thank you.

A novice once went to Abbot Macario to ask his advice on how best to please the Lord. 'Go to the cemetery and insult the dead,' said Macario.

The brother did as he was told. The following day, he went back to Macario. 'Did they respond?' asked the Abbot.

'No,' said the novice.

'Then go and praise them instead.'

The novice obeyed. That same afternoon, he went back to the Abbot, who again asked if the dead had responded.

'No, they didn't,' said the novice.

'In order to please the Lord, do exactly as they did,' Macario told him.

'Take no notice of men's scorn or of their praise; in that way, you will be able to build your own path.'

[pharoah21]

I'm sure my results would have jumped after reading that ;)

[Jayke]

Was it 800 or 900 on the scale where enlightened beings stop seeing the world in terms of good and evil, dark light, positive negative. I trust there's value for us all to learn from that teaching.

I mentioned in an early post about the skandhas from buddhism and tried to align them with the scale. Since even love when expressed in words is nothing more than a concept in the mind and after listening to everyones view...it's clear the whole calibration process itself exists within the skandha of conception. Not that there isn't value in that, I've already mentioned several times how calibration can be an excellent tool for personal growth...no one has or was calling it bull****. Is it possible that the percieved negative connotation of that word is a projection you've subconsciously attached to the process. When we make our mind up about anything, when we attach greatness to anything, that greatness casts a shadow and it's polar opposite is formed in the darkness. That bull**** came out of your subconscious and is yours to process, noone elses.

Christians find value in the bible yet it can only take them so far on their spiritual journey, at some point we have to move past all the concepts of the mind and start to cast light onto our shadows...only by dropping our concepts of what's good and what's bad can we start to bring down the walls we've created inside our minds and experience true liberation.

'wherever there is attachment association with it brings endless misery' - gampopa

The message I've been trying to get across, that has been perceived so negatively by many, is that calibration is just another mind trap, it's a minefield for the ego...only by moving past it completely, along with all the conceived notions of scales, layers, levels, emotions, states...can we start to feel the freedom of a truly enlightened being, all concepts must be left behind on the path. This is what all the enlightened masters from the past have been telling us since the dawn of man.
It's the reason why Jesus couldn't speak when asked what is the truth, it's because labelling something or attaching a value to it taints its true form and obscures it's true nature. By remaining silent he was demonstrating what it means to be enlightened, to exist in a still pure mind without the clouds of thought or speech obscuring our view of reality. When there are no clouds in the sky the sun can shine brightly on our entire world without us casting shadows on our surroundings. That's what it means to have pristine awareness, to be free of conceptual thought...or as they call it in Zen, 10000 clear miles of sky.

all words, all thoughts, all emotions are impermanant...the only thing that remains is unclouded pristine awareness. it's ok to cloud it up as we try to set a new direction for ourselves but once we step out on that journey, it's important to leave all the baggage at the door and walk naked into the ocean of awareness.

In alchemy they tell us we have to stay in a no thought samadhi for 100 days in order to kick start the internal alchemy process whereby the physical body transforms into a body of light...we won't be able to achieve that if we're constantly using our minds to quantify, calibrate and label things. Chi follows thought, by externalising our thoughts and projecting them onto our surroundings we're giving away the alchemical ingredient that cleans us out and opens us up to the greater experience of reality that everyone is looking for on this journey. We have to take ownership of our projections, return the chi to our bodies and process it thereby transforming us completely from the inside out...mind, body and spirit in unity... most people just focus on the mind aspect of transformation which is why the majority fall short of ever reaching a truly enlightened existance.

Playing around in the skandha of conception though is necassary for everyone to truly understand the inner workings of our minds and only by doing that will we be able to step out of that and move on to purifying the next skandhas...this is what the enlightened buddhas have been teaching us for several thousand years so if everyone else wants to continue playing then I'll leave you all too it. I've said my peace so I'll take my leave. Hope you all find what you're looking for.

[Eternal_One]

Was it 800 or 900 on the scale where enlightened beings stop seeing the world in terms of good and evil, dark light, positive negative. I trust there's value for us all to learn from that teaching.

I mentioned in an early post about the skandhas from buddhism and tried to align them with the scale. Since even love when expressed in words is nothing more than a concept in the mind and after listening to everyones view...it's clear the whole calibration process itself exists within the skandha of conception. Not that there isn't value in that, I've already mentioned several times how calibration can be an excellent tool for personal growth...no one has or was calling it bull****. Is it possible that the percieved negative connotation of that word is a projection you've subconsciously attached to the process. When we make our mind up about anything, when we attach greatness to anything, that greatness casts a shadow and it's polar opposite is formed in the darkness. That bull**** came out of your subconscious and is yours to process, noone elses.

Christians find value in the bible yet it can only take them so far on their spiritual journey, at some point we have to move past all the concepts of the mind and start to cast light onto our shadows...only by dropping our concepts of what's good and what's bad can we start to bring down the walls we've created inside our minds and experience true liberation.

'wherever there is attachment association with it brings endless misery' - gampopa

The message I've been trying to get across, that has been perceived so negatively by many, is that calibration is just another mind trap, it's a minefield for the ego...only by moving past it completely, along with all the conceived notions of scales, layers, levels, emotions, states...can we start to feel the freedom of a truly enlightened being, all concepts must be left behind on the path. This is what all the enlightened masters from the past have been telling us since the dawn of man.
It's the reason why Jesus couldn't speak when asked what is the truth, it's because labelling something or attaching a value to it taints its true form and obscures it's true nature. By remaining silent he was demonstrating what it means to be enlightened, to exist in a still pure mind without the clouds of thought or speech obscuring our view of reality. When there are no clouds in the sky the sun can shine brightly on our entire world without us casting shadows on our surroundings. That's what it means to have pristine awareness, to be free of conceptual thought...or as they call it in Zen, 10000 clear miles of sky.

all words, all thoughts, all emotions are impermanant...the only thing that remains is unclouded pristine awareness. it's ok to cloud it up as we try to set a new direction for ourselves but once we step out on that journey, it's important to leave all the baggage at the door and walk naked into the ocean of awareness.

In alchemy they tell us we have to stay in a no thought samadhi for 100 days in order to kick start the internal alchemy process whereby the physical body transforms into a body of light...we won't be able to achieve that if we're constantly using our minds to quantify, calibrate and label things. Chi follows thought, by externalising our thoughts and projecting them onto our surroundings we're giving away the alchemical ingredient that cleans us out and opens us up to the greater experience of reality that everyone is looking for on this journey. We have to take ownership of our projections, return the chi to our bodies and process it thereby transforming us completely from the inside out...mind, body and spirit in unity... most people just focus on the mind aspect of transformation which is why the majority fall short of ever reaching a truly enlightened existance.

Playing around in the skandha of conception though is necassary for everyone to truly understand the inner workings of our minds and only by doing that will we be able to step out of that and move on to purifying the next skandhas...this is what the enlightened buddhas have been teaching us for several thousand years so if everyone else wants to continue playing then I'll leave you all too it. I've said my peace so I'll take my leave. Hope you all find what you're looking for.


I totally agree with you. However not everybody is to the point of reaching samadhi for 100 days. To say that this method is useless for very advanced spiritual beings, hence useless for all others is again missing the point.

About the bull part, this is nothing personal to you. I already had thousands of feedback from others people, you cannot please everyone. This doesnt come from my subconscious, it comes from previous feedbacks. I wont bother to promote this method if I was thinking it to be bull. haha.

This method having the possibility to be an ego trap was pretty much mentionned in the disclaimer part.
Now even if this can be a trap for the ego, at least it use the ego for a noble thing: to force yourself to work on spirituality and personal growth . That is the whole point of the method.
I personaly think that the ego fight is one of the final fight for spiritual seeker. If this method bring everybody there, then all good.

I am just here to bring catalysts and to share some tools for spiritual growth. As every tool, it can used in a "good" or "bad" way.

Yup there is no good or bad, it is all illusion, life is just a grand play to teach you. We are all amnesic friends wearing different mask helping each others.

There is only miseries if you view things as real, when they are not.

[fosselovelight]

Hi there, can I also have a reading too? If you're not too sick of doing them all day, that would be much appreciated ;)

[Jayke]

Excellent, I'm glad we both agree eternal one... can I just point out I've never said this is useless, all throughout my posts I've mentioned it has great value up to a point. just wanted to clear that up.

[Eternal_One]

Excellent, I'm glad we both agree eternal one... can I just point out I've never said this is useless, all throughout my posts I've mentioned it has great value up to a point. just wanted to clear that up.

Jayke, no problem. I really understand your point being: this is not useless, but this can be pretty much subjective and can be a ego trap. The ego being a big problem with "spiritual seekers", then this tool may bring more problem for some. I do not disagree at all with that.

[Eternal_One]

Hi there, can I also have a reading too? If you're not too sick of doing them all day, that would be much appreciated ;)

Hello fosselovelight,

I got permission denied.

There could be many reasons for that. This doesnt imply that your calibration is "low" by any means. Maybe you are in a transition phase, or maybe the fact that me saying 'denied' will leads to you to become more curious about all of that, hence leading you to more growth opportunity. Or maybe your higher self prefer you to avoid this ego trap :)

[Eternal_One]

Buddha was gathered together with his disciples one morning, when a man came up to him.
'Does God exist?' he asked.
'He does,' replied Buddha.
After lunch, another man came up to him.
'Does God exist?' he asked.
'No, he doesn't,' said Buddha.
Later that afternoon, a third man asked the same question: 'Does God exist?'
'That's for you to decide,' replied Buddha.
As soon as the man had gone, one of his disciples remarked angrily:
'But that's absurd, Master! How can you possibly give such different answers to the same question?'
'Because they are all different people, and each one of them will reach God by his own path. The first man will believe what I say. The second will do everything he can to prove me wrong. The third will only believe in what he is allowed to choose for himself.'

[Tigressa]

Hello, I would love to hear your thoughts on my energy vibration. This is a fun post! I like that you are offering to do something for others here. ;) Thanks either way.

[Eternal_One]

Hello, I would love to hear your thoughts on my energy vibration. This is a fun post! I like that you are offering to do something for others here. ;) Thanks either way.

Hello Tigressa.

I got 512.

Much love to you.

[greybeard]

What I like about Dr Hawkins teachings is that he is very clear that all concepts belief systems must go and shows how to disassemble them.

Its all in line with ancient teaching, nothing new about it, the calibrations confirm for others what he already knows to be true.
He is saying what Ramana said "The thorn is used to remove the thorn then both are thrown away"
The intellect will take you so far then it has to be discarded, the ruler is the wrong instrument to measure water flowing in a river.
The moment you speak of enlightenment it becomes a concept.

As Dr H says you get could write a thesis on the orange without even tasting one.

Only one who is in the state of enlightenment knows what it is, we are just giving opinions which are therefore concepts and flawed.
They do there best to point to the Truth.
While I respect peoples opinions, including my own, the are secondhand, they do not carry the energy of enlightenment.

All enlightened teachers are uniform in what they teach.
The ego must be surrendered.
You are not the body.
Duality is an illusion.
Only God is
You are God.

There are degrees of the energy we call God.
Its like a field of electro magnetic energy, even the enlightened are not of the same class as the Creator Energy.

Hawkins uses the example of water
Ice --- liquid ---steam all undeniably water but different classes, different states, different functions.
God is manifest-- un-manifest - both and neither, the mind cant get that paradox.

Regards Chris

[fractal being]

Hi there Eternal one. Thanks for the effort and time.
Feel free to have a look on my vibrations as well.

Venceremos!

[Fred Steeves]

Erased, not relevent, hadn't read the thread yet. Sorry.

[Carmen]

Replying to Fred, so not relevant now.

[Fred Steeves]

Hi Eternal One and thanks for your time. I'll give er a whirl if you don't mind.


Cheers,
Fred

[EileenCookies]

You are welcome to report mine,
love eileen l., santa cruz, ca

ps: does the number just come to you or are you using actual muscles, like your fingers?

[Eternal_One]

Hi there Eternal one. Thanks for the effort and time.
Feel free to have a look on my vibrations as well.

Venceremos!

Hello,

I got 613.

:)

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Hi Eternal One and thanks for your time. I'll give er a whirl if you don't mind.


Cheers,
Fred

Hello Fred.

I got 601.

:)

[Eternal_One]

You are welcome to report mine,
love eileen l., santa cruz, ca

ps: does the number just come to you or are you using actual muscles, like your fingers?

99.9% of the time is by fingers, but sometimes I get a vision, a number pop in my mind before I even do the whole thing. But this is "rare". It happened only a couple time before.

I got 562.

:)

[Flash]

Hi Eternal One,

Can you make me a reading?

Do you do it for our children too, are you allower, or does it have to be only for the asking ones?

[EileenCookies]

Thanks.
I get a number in the early 700's.
But I havn't read the instructions for a while (maybe it was last year I read them). So who knows. Some of those people that are listed (with their numbers) don't make sense. And yes, there is a pattern to it. I guess if I was in tune with numbers I would know what 562 (sounds like a fun number) feels like. That would be interesting as well (I am just inventing stuff to say in the hopes I clue in on the meaning behind numbers/consciousness...especially as the people you are giving high numbers to I am getting they are in the 400's).

I found that I use to use my muscles for the MT. Eventually that was just slowing me down. Now I just know. Touch speeds it up.
Or being in a close proximity to what I am testing.

eileen l.

[Eternal_One]

Thanks.
I get a number in the early 700's.
But I havn't read the instructions for a while (maybe it was last year I read them). So who knows. Some of those people that are listed (with their numbers) don't make sense. And yes, there is a pattern to it. I guess if I was in tune with numbers I would know what 562 (sounds like a fun number) feels like. That would be interesting as well (I am just inventing stuff to say in the hopes I clue in on the meaning behind numbers/consciousness...especially as the people you are giving high numbers to I am getting they are in the 400's).

I found that I use to use my muscles for the MT. Eventually that was just slowing me down. Now I just know. Touch speeds it up.
Or being in a close proximity to what I am testing.

eileen l.

About which individual(s) are you talking about? So far, all the people calibrating over 700 on the list pretty much gave very very similar message about God, life, and a lot of things. Some of those description are so precise that they can be only given by someone who really experienced the truth, the union with the One creator.

I pretty much found similar results if not the same result about those being, without knowing anything about their teaching beforehands, nor their calibration.

[Fred Steeves]

Thank you Eternal One. I think you're the real deal as I could "feel" you. Interesting thing though, I got the "feeling" at about the moment I decided to ask, even before starting to type. Always cool to get an unexpected example of the space/time thing.

Cheers,
Fred

[Eternal_One]

Hi Eternal One,

Can you make me a reading?

Do you do it for our children too, are you allower, or does it have to be only for the asking ones?

Hello Flash, I got 634 for you.

About your children, I do not think this is a good idea to check their calibration. I got permission denied anyway.

That being said, most of all children choose carefully their parents before incarnation to allow them to be in the optimal environnement for their spiritual growth. So usually if one or both parents calibrate on the higher range, then the children have obviously interest toward spirituality.

"Children have never been very good at listening to their elders, but they have never failed to imitate them"

[Flash]

Hi Eternal One,

Can you make me a reading?

Do you do it for our children too, are you allower, or does it have to be only for the asking ones?

Hello Flash, I got 634 for you.

About your children, I do not think this is a good idea to check their calibration. I got permission denied anyway.

That being said, most of all children choose carefully their parents before incarnation to allow them to be in the optimal environnement for their spiritual growth. So usually if one or both parents calibrate on the higher range, then the children have obviously interest toward spirituality.

"Children have never been very good at listening to their elders, but they have never failed to imitate them"

Thank you very much The Eternal One. This is really neat of you to do this for us. As for my child, I am grateful of your response. This shows how honest you are within the process. And yes, my child has a strong interest in spirituality, she once told me while answering one of my questions: "What do you think, of course we are eternal, you yourself believe this, where do you think I am learning?". This goes hand in hand with your last comments.

Love to you from the heart

Flash

[EileenCookies]

When I am intuitively reading someone and they are tuned in with me and my work (and I with theres) we get the same results.

Since we are not, then one of us is out of tune with the other. I would have to read up on the individuals you mentioned....and remote view them later and I don't have permission for that (and I would know everything about them that I feel like knowing...and that gives me their issues....so...No).

I use to have lots of questions. Not so much now. Or the questions are different...not egoic in nature. And I don't waste time in the 3rd dimensional world (or less), trying to help people wake up now....if they want to there are teachers everywhere. I find I can't slow down enough for that as much. Though who knows.

Instead I focus on changing circumstances (world karmic releases...for instance). Like altering people's reaction times to say a huge event....an earthquake...or a changing planetary mass and assist in releasing any holding (negativity).

Note: Not everyone is ready for what is coming....and my feeling is to stay available as long as I exist. And I am fine not existing anymore either....as death seems like a really fine place to live...from my own view of the release of the physical.

On today:
Though today, I am checking out yet another healer's message. I do keep checking (as my health is not what my mind feels it has the potential of achieving....or maybe that is irrevelant...and I just don't realize it.).

eileen l.

[ceetee9]

Leaving aside the calibrations.
You will always find critical comments on the net some valid some not.
People who are successful attract comment
His resume is impressive so I would suggest you check it out.
As said the teaching in the books is valid and impressive in its detail.

Regards Chris

http://www.veritaspub.com/index.php?page=about
Absolutely Chris. There are many successful people with whom I resonate and others don't and vice versa. As I said, I wasn't attempting to refute any of Dr. Dawkins claims, but only attempting to provide a little balance. I will definitely check out some of Dr. Dawkins books as well as those from some of the more "enlightened masters" as time permits. This thread has aroused my curiosity so I'm game.

Eternal_One would you be so kind as to give me a reading as well? Thank you.

[Calz]

Quite a first thread (at least here at Avalon) for Eternal_One.

Not only doing a great job of it but extending remarkable "service to others".

:clap2:

[Carmody]

I wanted to be the most advanced student in the monastery (thumps protruded chest in pride) but I gots nuthin! :( I'm all bummed out now. ;)

As for the Buddhastic story on giv'n 'em what they need to hear..I've been doing that since the age of.. well..about long as I can remember.

[greybeard]

I wanted to be the most advanced student in the monastery (thumps protruded chest in pride) but I gots nuthin! :( I'm all bummed out now. ;)

As for the Buddhastic story on giv'n 'em what they need to hear..I've been doing that since the age of.. well..about long as I can remember.

Thats why few are enlightened Lol
Identification---- I am a this, I am a that--- all to be surrendered,

Not easy believe me.

C

[Flash]

I wanted to be the most advanced student in the monastery (thumps protruded chest in pride) but I gots nuthin! :( I'm all bummed out now. ;)

As for the Buddhastic story on giv'n 'em what they need to hear..I've been doing that since the age of.. well..about long as I can remember.

I am happy if you remain bumped out.;)

I am not feeling jalous up to now and would like to keep it that way. LOL

Teasing you of course, in facts, it does not make much difference in our respective daily lifes. Qui veut le "bollé" sur les bancs d'école assis à côté de lui? L'autre "nerd" qui veut apprendre, évidemment!

[Calz]

I wanted to be the most advanced student in the monastery (thumps protruded chest in pride) but I gots nuthin! :( I'm all bummed out now. ;)

As for the Buddhastic story on giv'n 'em what they need to hear..I've been doing that since the age of.. well..about long as I can remember.

I am happy if you remain bumped out.;)

I am not feeling jalous up to now and would like to keep it that way. LOL

Teasing you of course, in facts, it does not make much difference in our respective daily lifes. Qui veut le "bollé" assis à côté de lui?

Somewhat like making IQ scores public knowledge.

I opted for the PM approach (even though I have already had a friend do it).

Next time someone makes a post ... and you remember ... "oh that person is 200 less than me on the calibrated consciousness level" how would that play into the hands of the :laser:***EGO*** :moil:

[Flash]

I wanted to be the most advanced student in the monastery (thumps protruded chest in pride) but I gots nuthin! :( I'm all bummed out now. ;)

As for the Buddhastic story on giv'n 'em what they need to hear..I've been doing that since the age of.. well..about long as I can remember.

I am happy if you remain bumped out.;)

I am not feeling jalous up to now and would like to keep it that way. LOL

Teasing you of course, in facts, it does not make much difference in our respective daily lifes. Qui veut le "bollé" assis à côté de lui?

Somewhat like making IQ scores public knowledge.

I opted for the PM approach (even though I have already had a friend do it).

Next time someone makes a post ... and you remember ... "oh that person is 200 less than me on the calibrated consciousness level" how would that play into the hands of the :laser:***EGO*** :moil:

i would not want to compete either on the IQ levels with Carmody..... what a humility lesson, both ways i bet! (soul and IQ). Better not to think about it. Empty ones mind, :fish2:

I like to keep him "bummed out" all the way. LOL

But I don't know about beauty... I am blonde you know. Blonde, hum.. just wrote a few blonde comments haven't I?:happy:


Edited: if he is ever handsome as well, this would be the complete definition of injustice or else of those who have it all! lol

[Calz]

Carmody is amazing ... I am expecting another "permission denied" (although that sure sounds like guides/Spirit rather than anything I have every heard regarding Hawkins calibrated testing???

Okay ... Carmody you know how much we appreciate you.

I give you a ... dammit ... broke the scale.

[Carmen]

I have a question Eternal One. What does this forum calibrate at?

[Eternal_One]

I would be interested in a reading from you. Thank you, for your efforts, in advance .

Hello modwiz,

I got 639.

Much blessings to you.

;)

you are making me curious now....

Are you asking for a calibration or not?

Well, my back could use some work, but that's Modwiz's department. :) (Jacob's Ladder context)

Like a game of Blackjack, 'hit me'. :p

Hello, I got 624.

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I have a question Eternal One. What does this forum calibrate at?

This forum being a 'lightworker' place, It would probably calibrate around 600. But I need to check. I dont find this info to be harmful.

I got 515, which is pretty "good" for a forum.

[Eternal_One]

Eternal_One would you be so kind as to give me a reading as well? Thank you.

Hello ceetee9, I got 583.

:)

[sdafnom]

Eternal One, could you please give me a reading also? Thank you in advance.

[Eternal_One]

Eternal One, could you please give me a reading also? Thank you in advance.

Hello sdafnom,

I got 498.

Much blessings to you.

:)

[Jayke]

I was given an insight yesterday that would eliminate all the ego traps from this calibration process and transform it into a genuine divination tool to help the conscious mind gain insight into the workings of it's higher self. I don't know if this will be of value to anyone but imagine being able to give readings to people without ever stirring the ego defence programs of the conscious mind. Making it just as intriguing as tarot readings or other forms of divination.

First principle to understand is that nature doesn't exist on a sliding scale, it's only in the perception of the ego mind that duality represents things in terms of high/low, enlightened/darkness, up/down. The calibration process as it exists now falls within the confines of duality and due to the virtue of that intrinsic nature it's no wonder it stirs egos into attack and draws out judgement and criticism. In order to bypass the ego we can move it from something that's based in duality to something that's rooted in possibility. Look at rainbows for example, at the bottom we have red and at the top we have purple, does that mean purple is regarded as being higher than red by nature? Most people forget to notice that we get purple by mixing red and blue. Since blue is beneath purple that means purple must lead back into red and start a new cycle of colours above the wavelength range we can see with our human perception, one rainbow always leads into the next in a never ending cycle of possibility.

By framing the calibration process in a new way it can allow the ego to remain at rest while the higher self opens itself up to greater possibility. So for example when we begin the calibration process we could say:
'Souls come from a place of pure enlightenment, a place of infinite potential yet as we begin to incarnate in this realm we start to take on new karmic duties and we find ourselves with challenges and goals that our souls choose to go through and experience so that we can gain fresh insight into the nature of our divinity. Calibration is a method that allows people to gain insight into what challenges or goals their higher self may be working on at any particular moment in time, being now...would anyone enjoy taking part in this calibration process?

ego is static in nature, it holds onto forms and shapes, it likes consistancy, static numbers and resists change. By keeping the calibration process as a process instead of returning just a static number on a dualistic scale, we tell the ego 'this game isn't for you, you can sit this one out, go take a nap', which allows the higher self to take over and open us up to new possibilities.

Our ancient ancestors knew that numbers were never meant to represent static fiigures, Pythagoras learnt from Thoth the Egyptian god of wisdom that numbers, as used by the ancients, represented the dynamic interplay of energy based on fundamental principles of movement the soul goes through as it passes through it's various manifestations in form. Numbers were originally drawn as sacred geometrical patterns to represent these fundamental aspects of life, Pythagoras tells us Thoth taught him the secrets of numerology, which are:

The journey of the soul through the numbers:
1= energy starts with the sun as it radiates light
2= light penetrates the planets, seeding life in the womb of the divine feminine
3= life is born and nurtured into existance through the divine feminines grace
4= the elements begin to take shape, through alchemical processes and energetic interplay they begin to create matter in various forms.
5= the elements form an abode for energy to reside and interact with the world of form...humans come into existance.
6= humans starts to understand the nature of love
7= man gains wisdom
8= and realises the infinite nature of reality, he learns to access the zero point energy and see possibilities beyond form
9= through his understanding of this infinite potential he begins to create and reshape his reality around him
0= when his work is complete the energy returns to the void and rests in stillness

The sacred Geometry of the numbers:
1= was drawn as a phallus representing the masculine energy of light
2= drawn as a 'v', representing the cup, the womans vagina, the receiver of the light to create life.
3= drawn as a triangle to represent the doorway, the birth of spirit leaving the womb, later drawn as a 3 to represent the nurturing aspects of a womans breasts.
4= drawn as a square to represent the elements...earth, air, fire and water.
5= drawn as a 5 pointed star as found in apples and blueberries, and leonardo da vincis drawing of the perfect man.
6= drawn as one ascending triangle interlocking with a descending triangle to represent a 6 pointed star, ask any truly enlightened master and they'll tell you the heart chakra has 6 petals, where they say 6 major chi channels connect up to it.
7= drawn as a triangle descending onto a square to represent the top 3 chakras descending onto the bottom 4 chakras bringing the wisdom of the heart into alignment with the wisdom of the mind.
8= drawn as an 8 to represent a never ending infinity loop...which shows the infinite potential of the nothingness.
9= drawn as a spiral or as a 0 with a 1 at the bottom to represent new life emerging from the nothingness, 9 months of pregnancy etc.
0= drawn as a circle to represent completion in rest.

So by taking our understanding of numerology and applying it to our calibrated numbers it gives a much more dynamic representation of what challenges or goals our souls may be experiencing at any particular moment in time. So for example the reading of this forum 515 translated into numerology terms would mean the home (5) where light/insight/inspiration (1) enters our abode (5). I suppose it's still open to ego interpretations but I'd say it gives a much better representation of what this forum is rather than just sticking it with the static number 515.

my reading was 488...in numerology any 2 digits like 11, 22, 33, 44 etc are processed as 1 number, I won't go through them all here because they're easily looked up online.

4 the elements and 88 mastery of self control.
This reading when seen from a numerology perspective is actually incredibly spot on...represents the need for self control to transmute the elements which is remarkably aligned to the things I'm studying and learning about alchemy in all my free time.

I'd be interested to know how well people resonate with their readings once processed into their dynamic numerology form?

[Eternal_One]

...
I'd be interested to know how well people resonate with their readings once processed into their dynamic numerology form?

As your calibration number can change almost everyday and it is not 'permanent' by any means, numbers are bound to change. This is a little different.

If someone wants to know their own personnal challenge and life issues, then there is another tool that I know that is quite efficient. But I need your birthdate for that. Your birthdate doesnt change (hopefully), and it can give some good insight.

All systems are differents, all have different pitfall. The calibration process is no exception.

[Calz]

Astrology, numerology or otherwise?


If someone wants to know their own personnal challenge and life issues, then there is another tool that I know that is quite efficient. But I need your birthdate for that. Your birthdate doesnt change (hopefully), and it can give some good insight.

[Eternal_One]

Astrology, numerology or otherwise?


If someone wants to know their own personnal challenge and life issues, then there is another tool that I know that is quite efficient. But I need your birthdate for that. Your birthdate doesnt change (hopefully), and it can give some good insight.

The author doesnt talked much about the method. I think it is a mix of a lot of systems. But I have found it to be very very helpful & accurate. We can try with you if you want.

Go there, enter your birthdate, and give me the two numbers results: http://www.peacefulwarrior.com/life-purpose-calculator

I will give you more info afterwards. :)

[Carmen]

Okay, 34/7

[Eternal_One]

Okay, 34/7

Those on the 34/7 or 43/7 life path are here to work through issues of
trust, patience, and emotional expression and to have faith in the spiritual process
operating within their life, establishing security by finding practical ways to contribute
to others.

Guidelines and Recommendations
• Trust the process of your life,
• Remember: You are absolutely safe; nothing can harm your soul.
• Develop your expressive skills step-by-step.
• To heal your life, share your innermost feelings.

Useful Questions
1. Reflect on the following questions:
• Do I trust my ability to reach my goals step-by-step?
• Which do I trust more—my mind or my feelings?
• Does self-doubt or impatience interfere with my life? If so, how can I change this?
• Sociable or not, do I share my innermost feelings?

[Eternal_One]

There is a lot more, but will only do that by PM of course, or it will get too long.

[Calz]

26/8

Very interesting. Had not stumbled across that one in my wanderings :)

[Eternal_One]

26/8

Very interesting. Had not stumbled across that one in my wanderings :)

Those on the 26/8 life path are here to work through issues of perfectionism,
money, power, and recognition, sharing their abundance in alignment with their
highest vision and ideals, in the service of others.

Guidelines and Recommendations
• Act with quiet power and confidence.
• Find something in which you can excel and persevere.
• Recognize your value, and let your light shine,
• Balance work with personal relationships.

Useful Questions
1. Reflect on the following questions:
• Do I strive for or avoid money and power?
• Do I feel I have to do more to deserve success?
• Do I assert myself in a balanced, consistent way?
• How have my high standards helped my work and how have they held me back?

[Fred Steeves]

Hi Eternal One, same time, same place, same bat channel. Thanks again for the reading yesterday btw, that was pretty cool.

O.k., here's my birthday numbers. 33/6


Thanks and Cheers,
Fred

[Carolin]

Hi everyone,

Eternal_One has been gracious enough to participate in a little experiment with me. Yesterday I attended a Darshan with Mother Meera at her new facility in Port Colbourne, Ontario. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Meera Eternal_One did a calibration of me before and after I was in the presence of Mother Meera and there was a 27 point difference. Considering that Dr Hawkins says the average person rises 5 points in a lifetime that is quite extraordinary but these are extraordinary times.

I haven't included those calibrations because personally I try not to be labelled by anything or anybody. This little experiment shows that calibrations can change in a 24 hour period. It would not give me a "bigger committment to improve myself" if I posted those numbers publicly. I will say that there is much room for improvement which is why I'm living this lifetime.

Much love and gratitude to Eternal_One for sharing the ability and sparking interest in Dr Hawkins and personal growth!!:love:

[Eternal_One]

Hi Eternal One, same time, same place, same bat channel. Thanks again for the reading yesterday btw, that was pretty cool.

O.k., here's my birthday numbers. 33/6


Thanks and Cheers,
Fred

Those on the 33/6 life path are here to work through issues of perfectionism,
emotional expression, and self-doubt in order to bring forward their inspiring vision
of life's possibilities, while appreciating the innate perfection of the present moment.

Guidelines and Recommendations
• Reconnect with your real—not your ideal—feelings.
• Express your feelings, not just your thoughts.
• Acknowledge your sensitivity, and let others see it.
• Appreciate who you and others are right now.

Useful Questions
1. Reflect on the following questions:
• How do I use my expressive energy?
• Do I sometimes feel burdened by self-doubt and overly idealistic standards?
• Can I appreciate who I am right now?
• Do I let people know how I feel?

[Eternal_One]

Considering that Dr Hawkins says the average person rises 5 points in a lifetime that is quite extraordinary but these are extraordinary times.


Ok, this thing is partially true. You need to understand that on average you raise 5 points per lifetime. But it doesnt mean at all that your level is stable during all your life. No. There is set level at birth for each entity and an expecting goal level at death. The 'goal' level is usually 5 points higher than your previous lifetime at time of death on average. But it really depends, average doesnt say much.

But I would not worry about that now, this special time era (2008-2013) is very special. Global Consciousness level is skyrocketing for the last month/years. Things are not going to slow down for this year and the next.

[thunder24]

may i have a calibration reading please and thankyou.

peace

oh and i'm a 29/11

[Eternal_One]

may i have a calibration reading please and thankyou.

peace

Hello, thunder24.

I got 690.

Peace :)

Those on the 29/11 life path are here to combine creative energy with higher
principles and integrity, finding ways to apply their creativity in service of others,
aligned with higher wisdom. Such higher wisdom is revealed by spiritual
laws, especially the laws 29/11s are here to live and learn.

Guidelines and Recommendations
• Exercise daily; it can change or even save your life.
• If insecurity gets in your way, move through it.
• Practice to become skillful; then rely on your creative energy.
• Take a weekend workshop that attracts you.

Useful Questions
1. Reflect on the following questions:
• In what ways do I channel my creative energy, and in what ways do I discharge my blocked energy?
• How can I make the best use of and benefit from my present situation?
• How would I most like to serve others?
• How can I begin to trust my heart over others' opinions?

[thunder24]

Are you able to tell how many points one has gained since birth?

peace

sorry if you already answered that in an earlier post

[Eternal_One]

Are you able to tell how many points one has gained since birth?

peace

sorry if you already answered that in an earlier post
29/11

I can do that, but I feel it can be a little harmful.

You really need to concentrate on the present and the 'Now'. It is all we have. The past is the past, and you cant change it anyway.

[thunder24]

harmful because of the ego?

peace

[Eternal_One]

harmful because of the ego?

peace

Lets imagine that if i find someone that got a higher level of consciousness at birth, and they declined a lot. How would this person feel? Pretty much depressed. I can feel this can be sensitive info.

[thunder24]

I see what you mean, but isn't good to know where you stand? I mean your gonna find out when you die anyways right?

peace

[Eternal_One]

I see what you mean, but isn't good to know where you stand? I mean your gonna find out when you die anyways right?

peace

In the present yes, but not in the past. It doesnt matter if you were at 1000 or at 50 yesterday. What matter is Now.

[thunder24]

So then it changes day to day, minute by minute, second by second?

peace

[manny]

hi eternal one.
if i may could you please do me a calibration.
many thanks.;)

[Eternal_One]

So then it changes day to day, minute by minute, second by second?

peace

It surely fluctuate, but usually not something to beworth mentioning. Do you want your number after 9 comma?.

You can surely ask every week and I will check your progress. But dont be fooled, you need to personal work, or the number will not change.

[thunder24]

So then it changes day to day, minute by minute, second by second?

peace

It surely fluctuate, but usually not something to beworth mentioning. Do you want your number after 9 comma?.

You can surely ask every week and I will check your progress. But dont be fooled, you need to personal work, or the number will not change.

I would like all your willing to share. I don't kjnow what you mean by "after 9 comma" but share. I think lives are an open book anyways, if your telepathic or psychic then one can already know another wether they want you to or not it seems to me. So please share whatever you feel, sense, read.

peace

[greybeard]

Every thought word or deed changes ones vibration/calibration and affects the collective consciousness too.
Once you know this its a responsibility to be kind and compassionate.
Most people have minor fluctuations-- some have massive changes,
Hitler and Napoleon calibrated fairly high in the beginning but this fell dramatically when ego mania took over.

The traditional ways to raise consciousness are valid.
Devotion to spiritual Truth
Compassion
Fogiveness
Humility.
Love of God, ones fellow man/woman and all life, including your own.

Thats it really

Chris

[Eternal_One]

So then it changes day to day, minute by minute, second by second?

peace

It surely fluctuate, but usually not something to beworth mentioning. Do you want your number after 9 comma?.

You can surely ask every week and I will check your progress. But dont be fooled, you need to personal work, or the number will not change.

I would like all your willing to share. I don't kjnow what you mean by "after 9 comma" but share. I think lives are an open book anyways, if your telepathic or psychic then one can already know another wether they want you to or not it seems to me. So please share whatever you feel, sense, read.

peace

Its not about my will. I know by experience that it is not wise to do the homework of others, because if I give you key(s) answer, you will fail at the exam. All i can do is share with you some tools and happiness, showing you the way. But you need to walk the path alone.

"Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime"

If divinity allow me or tell me to help you, I will.

Two stories for you.

Word spread across the countryside about the wise Holy Man who lived in a small house atop the mountain, as a hermit. A man from the village decided to make the long and difficult journey to visit him. When he arrived at the house, he saw an old servant inside who greeted him at the door.
"I would like to see the wise Holy Man," he said to the servant.
The servant smiled and led him inside. As they walked through the house, the man from the village looked eagerly around the house, anticipating his encounter with the Holy Man. Before he knew it, he had been led to the back door and escorted outside. He stopped and turned to the servant,
"But I want to see the Holy Man!" "You already have," said the old man.
"Everyone you may meet in life, even if they appear plain and insignificant... see each of them as a wise Holy Man. If you do this, then whatever problem you brought here today will be solved."

--------------------------------


A disciple who loved and admired his Zen teacher decided to observe his behavior minutely, believing that if he did everything that his teacher did, then he would also acquire his teacher's wisdom. The teacher always wore white, and so his disciple did the same. The teacher was a vegetarian, and so his disciple stopped eating meat and replaced it with a diet of vegetables and herbs. The teacher was an austere man, and so the disciple decided to devote himself to self-sacrifice and started sleeping on a straw mattress.
After some time, the teacher noticed these changes in his disciple's behavior and asked him why.

'I am climbing the steps of initiation,' came the reply.

'The white of my clothes shows the simplicity of my search, the vegetarian food purifies my body, and the lack of comfort makes me think only of spiritual things.'

Smiling, the teacher took him to a field where a horse was grazing.

'You have spent all this time looking outside yourself, which is what matters least,' he said. 'Do you see that creature there? He has white skin, eats only grass and sleeps in a stable on a straw bed. Do you think he has the face of a saint or will one day become a real teacher?'.

[Eternal_One]

hi eternal one.
if i may could you please do me a calibration.
many thanks.;)

Hello manny,

I got 582.

Peace :)

[ulli]

Hello eternal_one...my number is 33/6
Please could i be calibrated, too?

[Calz]

There is a lot more, but will only do that by PM of course, or it will get too long.

Is the "lot more" reference to the app that was pictured (along with two books) for "further resources?"

http://lifepurposeapp.com/

[Eternal_One]

There is a lot more, but will only do that by PM of course, or it will get too long.

Is the "lot more" reference to the app that was pictured (along with two books) for "further resources?"

http://lifepurposeapp.com/

Yes, a lot of details are explained in the book "The Life You Were Born to Live: A Guide to Finding Your Life Purpose" By dan millman.

If you felt the description was useful, then buy the book obviously.

[ceetee9]

Eternal_One would you be so kind as to give me a reading as well? Thank you.

Hello ceetee9, I got 583.

:)
Ha, ha, ha... Are you sure your calculations are right; I mean, for my number to be in the realm of Einstein, da Vinci, and Shakespeare? And here I thought I'd pull a number in the realm of a politician, used car salesman, or lawyer (I apologize to any used car salesmen for lumping them in with the other riffraff). LOL.

All kidding aside, thank you Eternal_One. I'll keep working on my spiritual enlightenment. In fact, I think I'll start tonight with an ice cold pint of beer at my favorite pub. Anyone care to join me? Cheers! ;)

[Eternal_One]

Eternal_One would you be so kind as to give me a reading as well? Thank you.

Hello ceetee9, I got 583.

:)
Ha, ha, ha... Are you sure your calculations are right; I mean, for my number to be in the realm of Einstein, da Vinci, and Shakespeare? And here I thought I'd pull a number in realm of a politician, used car salesman, or lawyer (I apologize to any used car salesmen for lumping them in with the other riffraff). LOL.

All kidding aside, thank you Eternal_One. I'll keep working on my spiritual enlightenment. In fact, I think I'll start tonight with an ice cold pint of beer at my favorite pub. Anyone care to join me? Cheers! ;)

Ceetee, this is the result I got. Why would you be in a spiritual forum if you were not spiritual?

Now to compare people from this era to age before is not a good way to be objective. It is obvious that humanity got more peaceful. We have much more opportunity toward peace and love than hundred/thousand of years before.

[Eternal_One]

Hello eternal_one...my number is 33/6
Please could i be calibrated, too?

33/6 was explained few post before, look a page or two before.

I got 631 for your calibration.

:)

[Calz]

Einstein, da Vinci, and Shakespeare?



Many suggest we are experiencing an "energetic enhancement" of sorts.

Perhaps if the souls you mention were to be here today they might have calibrated well into the 900s???

[Eternal_One]

Einstein, da Vinci, and Shakespeare?



Many suggest we are experiencing an "energetic enhancement" of sorts.

Perhaps if the souls you mention were to be here today they might have calibrated well into the 900s???

Some of those souls are almost certainly 'reincarnated' and somewhere around :)

Not all souls have to become famous person every lifetime.

[pickle]

Hi Eternal One, my number is 31/4, and I don't know how you get the time for all of this, but it's really appreciated!

[Eternal_One]

Hi Eternal One, my number is 31/4, and I don't know how you get the time for all of this, but it's really appreciated!

Those on the 31/4 or 13/4 life path are here to work through issues of
stability, creativity, and emotional expression, learning to channel their energy
in constructive ways and to master a step-by-step process to their goals.

Since our life purpose doesn't come easily, 31/4s have to overcome self-doubt
and insecurity to develop the confidence necessary to follow a long,
sometimes arduous process to reach their goals.


Guidelines and Recommendations

• Remain humble and kind above all else.
To develop your full creative abilities, first develop your skills step-by-step, over time.
Exercise your body, your mind, and your emotions.
• Balance your analytical abilities with creative intuition.

Useful Questions
1. Reflect on the following questions:
• Do I let self-doubt or insecurity stop me?
• Do I follow a gradual step-by-step process to reach my goals?
• Have I explored the full range of my creative capacities?
• Have I worked through early family issues?

[ulli]

Thank you for my reading eternal_one. I really appreciate it.

Just to add: excercises like this are valuable because the focus is on consciousness.

That alone will increase someone's level of consciousness, or LoC.

[manny]

how do you come up with the number 31/4 for example.
don,t get it

ok got it i get 26/8.

does that make a difference to the original calibration?

[ceetee9]

Eternal_One would you be so kind as to give me a reading as well? Thank you.

Hello ceetee9, I got 583.

:)
Ha, ha, ha... Are you sure your calculations are right; I mean, for my number to be in the realm of Einstein, da Vinci, and Shakespeare? And here I thought I'd pull a number in realm of a politician, used car salesman, or lawyer (I apologize to any used car salesmen for lumping them in with the other riffraff). LOL.

All kidding aside, thank you Eternal_One. I'll keep working on my spiritual enlightenment. In fact, I think I'll start tonight with an ice cold pint of beer at my favorite pub. Anyone care to join me? Cheers! ;)

Ceetee, this is the result I got. Why would you be in a spiritual forum if you were not spiritual?

Now to compare people from this era to age before is not a good way to be objective. It is obvious that humanity got more peaceful. We have much more opportunity toward peace and love than hundred/thousand of years before.
You got me. I do consider myself to be a spiritual being, but not religious. I do not equate the two. And I apologize if I've offended you, or anyone else in this forum, if my comments appear flippant for that is certainly not my intent. I am a terrible kidder/picker as I love humor and sometimes don't realize when I've crossed the line between being funny and disrespectful--another one of my character flaws I must work on.

As far as comparing people from this era to an age before goes, I did not create the calibration scale nor did I place those from an older era on that scale. If the scale is out of whack with the current era then I suggest the scale be updated to account for the differences; otherwise the numbers are meaningless. I also disagree with your statement that "it is obvious that humanity got more peaceful." We have slaughtered millions of people in the last century alone. I don't consider that more peaceful than any previous era. We have just gotten more efficient at killing. I will agree, however, we have more "opportunity" for peace and love, but when you look at the millions of people who cheer when "their side" kills any number of people on "the other side," I'm not convinced or encouraged that we are yet ready to take that "opportunity" for peace and love. Pontificating about the virtues of love and peace by a few hundred (or thousand) people who like to slap each other on the back because they view themselves as more "enlightened spiritual" beings, such as some of those on this website, will not get the job done. It might make us all feel good, but there are a few billion other people we have to convince to get onboard.

[Fred Steeves]

Hello eternal_one...my number is 33/6


Hey ulli, 33/6. Imagine that, we're twins!!! LOL.

Cheers,
Fred

[Fred Steeves]

All kidding aside, thank you Eternal_One. I'll keep working on my spiritual enlightenment. In fact, I think I'll start tonight with an ice cold pint of beer at my favorite pub. Anyone care to join me? Cheers! ;)

I'm in cetee9, ever play quarters? Ha Ha!!

Cheers,
Fred

P.S. All joking aside, often times the biggest insights I get come during very ordinary everyday things. Slugging down a beer watching All in the Family, playing with the dog, stuck in traffic, ya just never know. Reminds me of the wild stallion scenario I saw somewhere here recently. You can chase the stallion till you're blue in the face, but if you just give up and turn your attention elsewhere, he may just come right up to you from behind and say hi.

[ulli]

Hello eternal_one...my number is 33/6


Hey ulli, 33/6. Imagine that, we're twins!!! LOL.

Cheers,
Fred

Hi Fred,

right, I saw that. We are perfectionistic idealists...or idealistic perfectionists...there is no worse condition on earth.
I feel for you/me/us.

Much responsibility to live up to or create the visions.

But I was even more surprised when I added up my husband's numbers this morning
...different year, month, etc, and they also added up to the same 33/6.

[Eternal_One]

As far as comparing people from this era to an age before goes, I did not create the calibration scale nor did I place those from an older era on that scale. If the scale is out of whack with the current era then I suggest the scale be updated to account for the differences; otherwise the numbers are meaningless. I also disagree with your statement that "it is obvious that humanity got more peaceful." We have slaughtered millions of people in the last century alone. I don't consider that more peaceful than any previous era. We have just gotten more efficient at killing. I will agree, however, we have more "opportunity" for peace and love, but when you look at the millions of people who cheer when "their side" kills any number of people on "the other side," I'm not convinced or encouraged that we are yet ready to take that "opportunity" for peace and love. Pontificating about the virtues of love and peace by a few hundred (or thousand) people who like to slap each other on the back because they view themselves as more "enlightened spiritual" beings, such as some of those on this website, will not get the job done. It might make us all feel good, but there are a few billion other people we have to convince to get onboard.

"There has to be evil so that good can prove its purity above it."

[modwiz]

I share the same birth path as Calz and Manny, 26/8. I find being drug free, alcohol especially, has been the most empowering overall. No matter how much I knew or understood got thrown off by habituation to a neurochemical state that was not my 'native' consciousness.

In our bodies, we are our neurochemical composition,IMO, and to 'Know Thyself' is to live in the chemicals produced by the glands that are the physical correspondent of your chakra system.

As I had once opined to Manny, drinking alcohol, for one habitutuated to it, is like putting on the Ring was to Frodo in LOTR. You slip into a dimension inhabited by dark beings.

Working with the power aspect of any 8 path is very power usage oriented. I find the perfectionism of the 6 in the 26/8 path lends a little more of a razors edge to walk on. It will sharpen your wits. lol

[Eternal_One]

Every thought word or deed changes ones vibration/calibration and affects the collective consciousness too.
Once you know this its a responsibility to be kind and compassionate.
Most people have minor fluctuations-- some have massive changes,
Hitler and Napoleon calibrated fairly high in the beginning but this fell dramatically when ego mania took over.

The traditional ways to raise consciousness are valid.
Devotion to spiritual Truth
Compassion
Fogiveness
Humility.
Love of God, ones fellow man/woman and all life, including your own.

Thats it really

Chris

The following prayer was found amongst the personal belongings of a Jew who died in a concentration camp:

Lord, when you come in Your glory, do not remember only the men of good, but remember too the men of evil.

And on the Day of Judgement, do not remember only the acts of cruelty, inhumanity and violence that they carried out, but remember too the fruits that they produced in us because of what they did to us. Remember the patience, courage, brotherly love, humility, generosity of spirit and faithfulness that our executioners awoke in our souls.

And then, Lord, may those fruits be used to save the souls of those men of evil.

[Eternal_One]

P.S. All joking aside, often times the biggest insights I get come during very ordinary everyday things. Slugging down a beer watching All in the Family, playing with the dog, stuck in traffic, ya just never know. Reminds me of the wild stallion scenario I saw somewhere here recently. You can chase the stallion till you're blue in the face, but if you just give up and turn your attention elsewhere, he may just come right up to you from behind and say hi.

When the great Sufi mystic, Hasan, was dying, somebody asked "Hasan, who was your master?"

He said, "I had thousands of masters. If I just relate their names it will take months, years and it is too late. But three masters I will certainly tell you about.

One was a thief. Once I got lost in the desert, and when I reached a village it was very late, everything was closed. But at last I found one man who was trying to make a hole in t he wall of a house. I asked him where I could stay and he said 'At this time of night it will be difficult, but you can say with me - if you can stay with a thief'

And the man was so beautiful. I stayed for one month! And each night he would say to me, 'Now I am going to my work. You rest, you pray.' When he came back I would ask 'Could you get anything?' He would say, 'Not tonight. But tomorrow I will try again, God willing.' He was never in a state of hopelessness, he was always happy.

When I was meditating and meditating for years on end and nothing was happening, many times the moment came when I was so desperate, so hopeless, that I thought to stop all this nonsense. And suddenly I would remember the thief who would say every night, 'God willing, tomorrow it is going to happen.'

And my second master was a dog. I was going to the river, thirsty and a dog came. He was also thirsty. He looked into the river, he saw another dog there -- his own image -- and became afraid. He would bard and run away, but his thirst was so much that he would come back. Finally, despite his fear, he just jumped into the water, and the image disappeared. And I knew that a message had come to me from God: one has to jump in spite of all fears.
And the third master was a small child. I entered a town and a child was carrying a lit candle. he was going to the mosque to put the candle there.

'Just joking,' I asked the boy, 'Have you lit the candle yourself?' He said, 'Yes sir.' And I asked, 'There was a moment when the candle was unlit, then there was a moment when the candle was lit. Can you show me the source from which the light came?'

And the boy laughed, blew out the candle, and said, 'You have seen the light go. Can you tell me where it has gone? If you can tell me where it has gone I will tell you from where it has come, because it has gone to the same place. It has returned to the source.' My ego was shattered, my whole knowledge was shattered. And that moment I felt my own stupidity.

Since then I dropped all my knowledgeability.

It is true that I had no master. That does not mean that I was not a disciple -- I accepted the whole existence as my master. My Disciplehood was a greater involvement than yours is.

I trusted the clouds, the trees. I trusted existence as such. I had no master because I had millions of masters I learned from every possible source. To be a disciple is a must on the path. What does it mean to be a disciple? It means to be able to learn. to be available to learn to be vulnerable to existence. With a master you start learning to learn.

The master is a swimming pool where you can learn how to swim. Once you have learned, all the oceans are yours.

[Mad Hatter]

Greetings Eternal_One

Right neuron doesn't give a rats...
Left nueron just has to ask...

Assuming it's not too much trouble what might my current reading be? (anything above 6 would be comforting ;))

What is the significance of 38/11? (besides what the web interface supplied)

Supplementary question if I may (assuming you are granted permission), where on the scale did Nicola Tesla fall during the incarnation we are familiar with?

Thank you for your time.

[Eternal_One]

Greetings Eternal_One

Right neuron doesn't give a rats...
Left nueron just has to ask...

Assuming it's not too much trouble what might my current reading be? (anything above 6 would be comforting ;))

What is the significance of 38/11? (besides what the web interface supplied)

Supplementary question if I may (assuming you are granted permission), where on the scale did Nicola Tesla fall during the incarnation we are familiar with?

Thank you for your time.

About your calibration, 499.

Tesla in the lower 400.

38/11

Guidelines and Recommendations

• Take back your power, but also learn to let go of control.
• Do vigorous daily exercise to replace addictions.
• Express what you feel, and feel the power of expression.
• Find creative ways to help charitable causes.


Useful Questions

1. Reflect on the following questions:
• When do I give away my power? When do I overcontrol?
• How does my creative energy serve others?
• In what ways am I generous with my money or energy?
• When I feel insecure or frustrated, do I discharge energy inconstructive or destructive ways?

[Eva2]

Hi, Don't know what to think but am certainly curious so when you get a moment, would appreciate a "calibration" - thank you. Jill

[Eternal_One]

Hi, Don't know what to think but am certainly curious so when you get a moment, would appreciate a "calibration" - thank you. Jill

Hello Jill,

I got 398.

Much blessings and good vibes to you.

:)

[greybeard]

I share the same birth path as Calz and Manny, 26/8. I find being drug free, alcohol especially, has been the most empowering overall. No matter how much I knew or understood got thrown off by habituation to a neurochemical state that was not my 'native' consciousness.

In our bodies, we are our neurochemical composition,IMO, and to 'Know Thyself' is to live in the chemicals produced by the glands that are the physical correspondent of your chakra system.

As I had once opined to Manny, drinking alcohol, for one habitutuated to it, is like putting on the Ring was to Frodo in LOTR. You slip into a dimension inhabited by dark beings.

Working with the power aspect of any 8 path is very power usage oriented. I find the perfectionism if the 6 in the 26/8 path lends a little more of a razors edge to walk on. It will sharpen your wits. lol


Copied from Power vs Force by Dr David Hawkins page 106

"The higher the attainment of each of these states the greater is the power to re program the subjects entire life, just one instant in a very high state can completely change a person orientation to life, as well as his goals and values.
It can be said that the individual who was is no more and a new person is born out of the experience
Through hard won progress on a dedicated spiritual path, this is the very mechanism of spiritual evolution

The permanent high-experience that may be legitimately attained though a lifetime of dedicated inner work can be reached by artificial means temporarily. But the balance of nature dictates that to artificially acquired that state without having earned it creates a debt and the negative unbalance results in negative consequences. The cost of such stolen pleasure is the desperation of addiction, and finally, both the addict and society pay the price."

Having experienced the highs and extreme lows of Alcoholism I can testify to this.
However without hitting rock bottom I would perhaps not of benefited from getting on the spiritual path.
Dr Hawkins did much work with AA 12 steps to help recovering alcoholics.

Chris

[Fred Steeves]

It is true that I had no master. That does not mean that I was not a disciple -- I accepted the whole existence as my master. My Disciplehood was a greater involvement than yours is.




Great story Eternal-One, great examples. Thank you. Sometimes people may think I'm being flippant, arrogant, and/or disrespectful in saying that I hold true to no one school of knowledge, and sometimes even criticising certain aspects of them. I have the utmost respect for every enlightened being and teacher who has ever graced this planet, it's their shoulders that we now stand upon. Just that we are now in uncharted and magical waters, and I feel the old rules of having to spend a lifetime, or lifetimes going studiously through the ranks of ANY one school of thought to make the quantum leap in consciousness no longer apply. In other words, all bets are off.

The aether is dripping with infinite possibility, we should be ready to receive it at all times, in all situations. This is where schools of thought originate.

Cheers,
Fred

[truthseekerdan]

The main routine of the mind is to keep our attention constantly involved and focused outwards on things in the physical world. The mind's outward actions can forever keep us from discovering who we are, where we are, why we are, and what is really going on deep inside. In other words, the mind provides rationalizations and excuses for any momentary flashes of real consciousness we may have when we look inward to question the source or relevance of our thoughts.

The mind's outward focus is keeping us from realizing our metaphysical nature as awareness from intelligence. Our mind will always concoct numerous ways to stop us from seeing it for what it really is, no matter how much we suffer. The mind can be the great deceiver. It will set up incredible obstacles and illusions to prevent us from expanding our consciousness inside its domain. Our mind has not only dazzled us through this life but it may have been keeping us trapped inside its memories and entertaining us by constantly re-thinking what happened yesterday, last week or even years ago.

Our mind can be a great deceiver; by waving its magic wand of logic it can even make a lie appear true. Our mind can provide all the right excuses for doing or not doing something. Our mind has many strange characteristics and many astonishing tendencies. It has the tendency to believe what it wants to believe, even in the face of any proof to the contrary. In other cases, our mind believes what it wants to believe, whether it has all the facts or no facts at all. Our mind loves to solve problems by filling in the gaps with the stuff we already know rather than admitting it may know nothing at all.

Love and wisdom to All

[Eva2]

Well, that's kinda sad - ha! Perhaps I don't fully understand the scale and it is something that fluctuates but the number based on this theory does not fit in with my experiences. I will take it with a grain of salt and not get caught up with charts and figures but do thank you for doing this for me.



Hi, Don't know what to think but am certainly curious so when you get a moment, would appreciate a "calibration" - thank you. Jill

Hello Jill,

I got 398.

Much blessings and good vibes to you.

:)

[Eternal_One]

Well, that's kinda sad - ha! Perhaps I don't fully understand the scale and it is something that fluctuates but the number based on this theory does not fit in with my experiences. I will take it with a grain of salt and not get caught up with charts and figures but do thank you for doing this for me.



Hi, Don't know what to think but am certainly curious so when you get a moment, would appreciate a "calibration" - thank you. Jill

Hello Jill,

I got 398.

Much blessings and good vibes to you.

:)

Trust your own experience above everything else. Do not believe things just because someone, whoever he may be, said it.

[Mad Hatter]

Thank you for that. I do find the results truly fascinating...

About your calibration, 499. Tesla in the lower 400.

It would seem to indicate that a bum like me grovelling around in western style mediocrity with no idea ends up with a rating higher than someone whose very real gifts to the world continue to raise the standard of living for almost all of humanity in one way shape or form.

Thus one might conclude that progress along the spiritual path is potentially easier/quicker whilst living in abject poverty and perhaps TPTB attempts to bomb us all back to the stone age actually represents a form of logic, albeit a tad cold.

Hmmm...much to ponder, much to learn...

cheers

[Eternal_One]

G. I. Gurdjeff was one the twentieth century's most intriguing characters. Although a familiar name in occult circles, his work as a student of human psychology remains unknown. The following events took place when he was living in Paris, having just set up his famous Institute for Human Development. The classes were always packed, but amongst the students was a very bad-tempered old man, who was constantly criticising the Institute's teachings. He said that Gurdjeff was a charlatan, that his methods had no scientific basis, and that his reputation as a 'magus' bore no relation to reality. The other students were bothered by the presence of this old man, but Gurdjeff did not seem to mind. One day, the old man left the group. Everyone felt relieved, thinking that from then on the classes would be quieter and more productive. To their surprise, Gurdjeff went to the man's house and asked him to return to the Institute. The old man refused at first and only accepted when he was offered a salary to attend the classes. The story soon spread. The students were disgusted and wanted to know why a teacher should reward someone who had learned nothing.

'Actually, I'm paying him to continue teaching,' came the reply.
'What?!' said the students.
'Everything he does goes completely against what you are teaching us.'
'Exactly,' said Gurdjeff.
'Without him around, you would find it hard to understand what rage, intolerance, impatience and lack of compassion really mean. However, with this old man as a living example, showing just how such feelings can turn community life into a hell, you will learn much more quickly. You pay me to learn how to live in harmony, and I hired this man to help me teach you that lesson, only the other way round.

[Eternal_One]

Thank you for that. I do find the results truly fascinating...

About your calibration, 499. Tesla in the lower 400.

It would seem to indicate that a bum like me grovelling around in western style mediocrity with no idea ends up with a rating higher than someone whose very real gifts to the world continue to raise the standard of living for almost all of humanity in one way shape or form.

Thus one might conclude that progress along the spiritual path is potentially easier/quicker whilst living in abject poverty and perhaps TPTB attempts to bomb us all back to the stone age actually represents a form of logic, albeit a tad cold.

Hmmm...much to ponder, much to learn...

cheers

An orthodox Jew approached Rabbi Wolf and said: 'The bars are full to bursting and the people sit there into the small hours enjoying themselves!

'The Rabbi said nothing.

'The bars are full to bursting, people spend all night playing cards, and you say nothing?'

'It's a good thing that the bars are full,' said Wolf. 'Everyone, since the beginning of Creation, has always wanted to serve God. The problem is that not everyone knows the best way to do so. Try to think of what you judge to be a sin as a virtue. These people who spend the night awake are learning alertness and persistence. When they have perfected these qualities, then all they will have to do is turn their eyes to God. And what excellent servants they will make!'

'You're obviously an optimist,' said the man.

'It has nothing to do with optimism,' replied Wolf. 'It is merely a matter of understanding that whatever we do, however absurd it might seem, can lead us to the Path. It's all just a question of time.’

[giovonni]

Im curious, Eternal One. What level do I calibrate at. Thank you for your consideration.

Hello Carmen.

I got 698.

Much blessings to you.

:)

He must have calibrated you ~ during one of your average days ~ Carmen :lol:

[Calz]

I share the same birth path as Calz and Manny, 26/8. I find being drug free, alcohol especially, has been the most empowering overall. No matter how much I knew or understood got thrown off by habituation to a neurochemical state that was not my 'native' consciousness.

In our bodies, we are our neurochemical composition,IMO, and to 'Know Thyself' is to live in the chemicals produced by the glands that are the physical correspondent of your chakra system.

As I had once opined to Manny, drinking alcohol, for one habitutuated to it, is like putting on the Ring was to Frodo in LOTR. You slip into a dimension inhabited by dark beings.

Working with the power aspect of any 8 path is very power usage oriented. I find the perfectionism of the 6 in the 26/8 path lends a little more of a razors edge to walk on. It will sharpen your wits. lol

Modwiz that was very helpful.

Thanks for passing along your personal experience of the "energies". :thank_you2:

So much amazing information has been coming out the last few days.

Looks like I will need to use all my creative powers to summon Smeagle and see if he still has a taste for ring fingers :hungry:

[Carmen]

Have to tell you, Calz_, I have a friend who is quite fit, thin and muscly. She is one of the friends I go horse trekking with. Anyway we bath in the mountain streams and this particular day we were in an area that had very large rocks in the little river, with waterfalls and deep pools. She was climbing round the rock naked in a certain way, then said, "who do I remind you of" (she is also English with very white skin) I looked at her and how she was moving, and thought "Oh my God, she looks like Smeagle"!!! And she did!! We all had a really good laugh. She didnt care, shes not egotisical like that!!

Apologies for going off topic!!

[Mystique]

Thank you, Eternal One, for offering to calibrate us. I am interested to know what I calibrate at. Thank you. My birthday numbers are 35/8.

[TWINCANS]

May I have a calibration reading, also my birth numbers are 22/4. Please and thank you.

[Eternal_One]

Have to tell you, Calz_, I have a friend who is quite fit, thin and muscly. She is one of the friends I go horse trekking with. Anyway we bath in the mountain streams and this particular day we were in an area that had very large rocks in the little river, with waterfalls and deep pools. She was climbing round the rock naked in a certain way, then said, "who do I remind you of" (she is also English with very white skin) I looked at her and how she was moving, and thought "Oh my God, she looks like Smeagle"!!! And she did!! We all had a really good laugh. She didnt care, shes not egotisical like that!!

Apologies for going off topic!!

According to my wife, I am very gifted to mimic the voice of Smeagol/Gollum:

"Master is our friend!"
"You stole it, My Precious, and we wants it!"
"You filthy little thieves"
"Kill the hobbits, kill them all"
"My precioussss".

The creator essence is Love/Joy/Compassion, if you cant have humour sometimes, it would be sad.

[Eternal_One]

Thank you, Eternal One, for offering to calibrate us. I am interested to know what I calibrate at. Thank you. My birthday numbers are 35/8.

Hello Mystique,

I got 627.


35/8

Those on the 35/8 life path are here to work through issues of emotional
honesty, independence, and power, manifesting abundance, authority, and freedom
achieved through discipline and depth of experience.

Guidelines and Recommendations

• Combine your brilliance with hard work to find success.
• Own your power, but remember your heart.
• Visualize and then put into practice the good you would like to do for others.
• Find a focus; keep it practical and grounded.


Useful Questions

1. Reflect on the following questions:
• Have I done the focused work necessary to achieve abundance in my life?
• Have I found abundance and power within?
• Do I uphold the highest ethical standards in my business agreements and personal hfe?
• Do I freely share my feelings with others?

[Eternal_One]

May I have a calibration reading, also my birth numbers are 22/4. Please and thank you.

Hello TWINCANS,

I got permission denied for your calibration. Doesnt mean its 'low', just my higher helf is telling me that you have better growth potential without me giving your current number.
Could be many reasons that I ignore.


22/4

Those on the 22/4 life path are here to work through issues of cooperation,
responsibility, and process to establish a stable and secure foundation, achieving
their goals through a patient process involving mutually supportive teamwork.

Guidelines and Recommendations

• Make friends with yourself first, by integrating your conflicting parts.
• Stay open to feedback from friends; do you give too much?
• Stay flexible in body and mind—resilient, not resistant.
• Structure your life and appreciate each step on the path.

Useful Questions
Reflect on the following questions:

• When I make decisions, do I base them on my authentic needs and values or on what I think I'm "supposed" to do?
• Do I feel good about what I am doing for others?
• What's the next step toward my goals?
• Whom do I need to forgive or ask for forgiveness?

[sandy]

Hi Eternal_one,

I would love to have a calibration done, thank you in advance your time, attention and love is valued and appreciated :)

[Eternal_One]

Hi Eternal_one,

I would love to have a calibration done, thank you in advance your time, attention and love is valued and appreciated :)

Hello Sandy,

I got 673.

Much blessings and love :)

[sandy]

Hi Eternal_one,

I would love to have a calibration done, thank you in advance your time, attention and love is valued and appreciated :)

Hello Sandy,

I got 673.

Much blessings and love :)

Thank you so much and Much Love and blessings to you!!

[Eternal_One]

A short story to stay in the humorous tone:

It seems that the Master of Mirth and Chief of the Dervishes, Nasrudin, was once called to pontificate on the 'Nature of Allah' in the local mosque. Present were the many Imams and Doctors of the Islamic Law. Out of courtesy and because Nasrudin could not be counted on saying anything worthwhile, these illustrious guests explained and inspired the audience with their eloquence and wisdom.

Finally it was Nasrudin's turn to explain 'the Nature of Allah'.

"Allah ...", started Nasrudin impressively "is ..." Nasrudin removed and held up an ovoid mauve vegetable from the folds of his turban, " ... an aubergine."

There was uproar at this blasphemy. When order was finally established, Nasrudin was reluctantly asked to explain his words.

"I conclude that everyone has spoken of what they do not know or have not seen. We can all see this aubergine. Is there anyone who can deny that Allah is manifest in all things?"

Nobody could. "Very well," said Nasrudin, "Allah is an aubergine."

[Eternal_One]

Nasreddin was walking in the bazaar with a large group of followers. Whatever Nasreddin did, his followers immediately copied. Every few steps Nasreddin would stop and shake his hands in the air, touch his feet and jump up yelling "Hu Hu Hu!". So his followers would also stop and do exactly the same thing. One of the merchants, who knew Nasreddin, quietly asked him:
"What are you doing my old friend? Why are these people imitating you?"

"I have become a Sufi Sheikh," replied Nasreddin. "These are my Murids (spiritual seekers); I am helping them reach enlightenment!"
"How do you know when they reach enlightenment?"

"That’s the easy part! Every morning I count them. The ones who have left – have reached enlightenment!"

[Muzz]

HI Eternal One, many thanks for this thread. I'd be grateful if you could give me a reading. Im 21/3

[skamandar]

Hi Eternal_One, thanks for your effort.
Can I also have a calibration and a reading - 28/10

[Eternal_One]

HI Eternal One, many thanks for this thread. I'd be grateful if you could give me a reading. Im 21/3

Hello Muzz,

I got 632.

21/3

Those on the 21/3 or 12/3 life path are here to work through issues of
creativity, emotional expression, balance, and cooperation in support of people
or causes, applying their energy in positive, constructive ways to teach, uplift,
and inspire.

Guidelines and Recommendations
• If you want to remain supple and healthy, express your feelings.
• Exercise to release pent-up emotional and creative energies.
• Remember and visualize your strongest qualities.
• Make authenticity — showing what you really feel—a priority.

Useful Questions
1. Reflect on the following questions:
• Do I fully appreciate my creative abilities?
• Do I move from overconfidence to self-doubt?
• Do I intellectualize my feelings, or do I let people know how I really feel inside?
• What does my body reveal about how I'm using my creative energy?

[Muzz]

Thankyou eternal one.

• If you want to remain supple and healthy, express your feelings.
• Exercise to release pent-up emotional and creative energies.
Spot on. :) Always needed to work on this.


self-doubt? got plenty of that :)

Thanks again
Muzz

[Eternal_One]

Hi Eternal_One, thanks for your effort.
Can I also have a calibration and a reading - 28/10

Hello skamandar, I got 439.

28/10

Those on the 28/10 life path are here to work through issues combining
material success and creative energy, applying their creative energy and intuitive
gifts in service of others, guiding with authority and compassion.


Guidelines and Recommendations
• Express and clear anger toward authorities; then assume your own authority.
• Exercise daily with strength and vigor.
• Move through insecurity to get where you're going.
• Find ways to use your creativity and inner gifts.

Useful Questions
1. Reflect on the following questions:
• How can I apply my creative energy to make good money, doing what I love, serving other people?
• How do I feel about authority? my own and that of others?
• When do I feel strong and independent?
• Do I sometimes try to manipulate or control others?

[kriya]

Hello Eternal One,

Thank you for this tread!

Could I please have a calibration? 25/7

Much love to you and thank you for giving so much to others.

Love,

Kriya:cool:

[Eternal_One]

Hello Eternal One,

Thank you for this tread!

Could I please have a calibration? 25/7

Much love to you and thank you for giving so much to others.

Love,

Kriya:cool:

Hello Kriya,

I got 545.

25/7

Those on the 25/7 life path are here to work through issues of privacy,
openness, and independence, finally coming to trust spiritualforces operating through
themselves, others, and the world, and to experience inner freedom through a
focused discipline.


Guidelines and Recommendations

• Trust your instincts and intuition; you are the expert on your body and your life.
• Remember each day to take at least one deep breath and, as you do so, feel as if you are breathing in Spirit.
• Enjoy experience, but focus on relationship.
• Make clear agreements with people to avoid possible misunderstandings.


Useful Questions

1. Reflect on the following questions:
• How can I make the shift from reliance on outside experts and ideas to trusting my own intuitive body wisdom?
• To avoid misunderstandings, can I share my real feelings and needs in a given situation?
• Do I feel safe with people, or do I hide behind a mental shield?
• What hidden assumptions about trust can I reexamine?

[joamarks]

Hello eternal_one

my number is 32/5
Please could i be calibrated, too?

greetings joamarks

[Eternal_One]

Hello eternal_one

my number is 32/5
Please could i be calibrated, too?

greetings joamarks

Hello Joamarks,

I got 683.

32/5 (almost same as me, as I am 23/5)

Those on the 32/5 or 23/5 life path are here to work through issues related to
independence, emotional honesty, and cooperation, finally experiencing freedom
through discipline and depth of experience.

Guidelines and Recommendations

• You are more than the role you play; value your essence.
• Remember: Discipline and depth open the doors to freedom.
• Pace yourself, make time for relaxation, and stay healthy.
• Find the courage to be as open and vulnerable as you can.

Useful Questions

1. Reflect on the following questions:
• When I feel limited or restricted, who can set me free?
• Have I found a balance between dependence and independence?
• What is my present level of discipline and focus?
• Do I directly express what I really feel and need?

:)

[Eternal_One]

There was a man who had four sons. He wanted his sons to learn not to judge things too quickly. So he sent them each on a quest, in turn, to go and look at a pear tree that was a great distance away.

The first son went in the winter, the second in the spring, the third in summer, and the youngest son in the fall.

When they had all gone and come back, he called them together to describe what they had seen.

The first son said that the tree was ugly, bent, and twisted.

The second son said no it was covered with green buds and full of promise.

The third son disagreed; he said it was laden with blossoms that smelled so sweet and looked so beautiful, it was the most graceful thing he had ever seen.

The last son disagreed with all of them; he said it was ripe and drooping with fruit, full of life and fulfillment.

The man then explained to his sons that they were all right, because they had each seen but only one season in the tree's life.

He told them that you cannot judge a tree, or a person, by only one season, and that the essence of who they are and the pleasure, joy, and love that come from that life can only be measured at the end, when all the seasons are up.

If you give up when it's winter, you will miss the promise of your spring, the beauty of your summer, fulfillment of your fall.

[Eternal_One]

A Hindu saint who was visiting the river Ganges to take a bath found a group of family members on the banks, shouting in anger at each other.
Smiling, he turned to his disciples and asked, 'Why do people in anger shout at each other?'

The disciples thought for a while, and then one of them said, 'Because when we lose our calm, we shout.'

'But, why should you shout when the other person is just next to you? You can as well tell him what you have to say in a soft manner,' asked the saint.

The disciples gave more answers but none satisfied the saint. Finally he explained:

'When two people are angry at each other, the distance between their hearts is larger. To cover that distance they must shout to be able to hear each other. The angrier they are, the stronger they will have to shout to hear each other to cover that great distance.

What happens when two people fall in love? They don't shout at each other but talk softly, because their hearts are very close. The distance between them is either nonexistent or very small...'

The saint continued, 'When they love each other even more, what happens?
They do not speak, only whisper and they get even closer to each other in their love. Finally they even need not whisper, they only look at each other and that's all. That is how close two people are when they love each other.'

He looked at his disciples and said, 'So when you argue, do not let your hearts get distant. Do not say words that distance you from each other more, or else there will come a day when the distance is so great that you will not be able to find the path to return.'

[Eternal_One]

Simple Tools of Great Value, by David R. Hawkins:


1. Be kind to everything and everyone, including oneself, all the time, with no exception.

2. Revere all of life in all of its expressions, no matter what, even if one does not understand it.

3. Presume no actual reliable knowledge of anything at all. Ask God to reveal its meaning.

4. Intend to see the hidden beauty of all that exists - it then reveals itself.

5. Forgive everything that is witnessed and experienced, no matter what. Remember Christ, Buddha, and Krishna all said that all error is due to ignorance. Socrates said that all men can choose only what they believe to be good.

6. Approach all of life with humility and be willing to surrender all positionalities and mental/emotional arguments or gain.

7. Be willing to forgot all perceptions of gain, desire, or profit and thereby be willing to be of selfless service to life in all of its expressions.

8. Make one's life a living prayer by intention, alignment, humility, and surrender. True spiritual reality is actually a way of being in the world.

9. Accept that by spiritual declaration, commitment, and surrender, Knowingness arises that provides support, information, and all that is needed for the entire journey.

10. The most powerful tool that is in the province of the will is devotion. Thus, it is not just spiritual truth but the degree of one's devotion to it that empowers it to become transformative.  

[TWINCANS]

May I have a calibration reading, also my birth numbers are 22/4. Please and thank you.

Hello TWINCANS,

I got permission denied for your calibration.

Funny, I thought that's what you would get. Thank you for all you are doing here. I was interested that the Forum was calibrating lower (500's) than many of the very active individuals (600's). Any thoughts on that?

[Eternal_One]

May I have a calibration reading, also my birth numbers are 22/4. Please and thank you.

Hello TWINCANS,

I got permission denied for your calibration.

Funny, I thought that's what you would get. Thank you for all you are doing here. I was interested that the Forum was calibrating lower (500's) than many of the very active individuals (600's). Any thoughts on that?

First by this forum I meant the totality of all writtings, not just the spirituals part, there is too a 'conspiracy part' and 'general part'. It would be not a good metric to calibrate the 'sum' of all individuals of this forum, because one person over 700 compensate for millions of others.

Second, a lot of the person that asked on the thread openly calibrate 600ish, but remember I get a lot of people that ask me by pm, that are nowhere near 600. You will surely understand the reason.

Third, a person calibrating at 600 doesnt write stuff all the time over 600. Not everybody is gifted with words, we all have our own speciality to 'channel' spirit: some have music, other poetry, other words, other arts, etc etc.

[greybeard]

Simple Tools of Great Value, by David R. Hawkins:


1. Be kind to everything and everyone, including oneself, all the time, with no exception.

2. Revere all of life in all of its expressions, no matter what, even if one does not understand it.

3. Presume no actual reliable knowledge of anything at all. Ask God to reveal its meaning.

4. Intend to see the hidden beauty of all that exists - it then reveals itself.

5. Forgive everything that is witnessed and experienced, no matter what. Remember Christ, Buddha, and Krishna all said that all error is due to ignorance. Socrates said that all men can choose only what they believe to be good.

6. Approach all of life with humility and be willing to surrender all positionalities and mental/emotional arguments or gain.

7. Be willing to forgot all perceptions of gain, desire, or profit and thereby be willing to be of selfless service to life in all of its expressions.

8. Make one's life a living prayer by intention, alignment, humility, and surrender. True spiritual reality is actually a way of being in the world.

9. Accept that by spiritual declaration, commitment, and surrender, Knowingness arises that provides support, information, and all that is needed for the entire journey.

10. The most powerful tool that is in the province of the will is devotion. Thus, it is not just spiritual truth but the degree of one's devotion to it that empowers it to become transformative.  

I think it is important to be aware the the calibrations are a very small % of Dr Hawkins work.
Each calibration needs to be related to the detail in the book relating to map of consciousness.
That shows clearly what are the obstacles to be removed.
The numbers by themselves are valueless and gives the impression that higher number is better, such is not the case.
Each level is different not better.


It also is clear that the self does not have the spiritual power to remove these obstacles but the Higher Self (God) does, so the obstacles are surrendered to God.

The sun is revealed when the clouds are removed.
Your true nature Enlightened Self "declares" reveals it self, when, by the Grace of God, these obstacles are removed.

The obstacles are not removed by sitting doing nothing declaring I am enlightened-- I am just "being" in the moment.
If that was the true we would all be enlightened NOW, such is obviously not the case.

Namaste

[Calz]

Second, a lot of the person that asked on the thread openly calibrate 600ish, but remember I get a lot of people that ask me by pm, that are nowhere near 600. You will surely understand the reason.



Okay I surrender.

If everyone else is gonna lay it on the line then why not? :behindsofa:


Hello Cal,

I got 539.

[Eternal_One]

I think it is important to be aware the the calibrations are a very small % of Dr Hawkins work.
Each calibration needs to be related to the detail in the book relating to map of consciousness.
That shows clearly what are the obstacles to be removed.
The numbers by themselves are valueless and gives the impression that higher number is better, such is not the case.
Each level is different not better.


It also is clear that the self does not have the spiritual power to remove these obstacles but the Higher Self (God) does, so the obstacles are surrendered to God.

The sun is revealed when the clouds are removed.
Your true nature Enlightened Self "declares" reveals it self, when, by the Grace of God, these obstacles are removed.

The obstacles are not removed by sitting doing nothing declaring I am enlightened-- I am just "being" in the moment.
If that was the true we would all be enlightened NOW, such is obviously not the case.

Namaste

I think you are trying to minimize the 'controversial' part of calibration. Hawkins tends to 'calibrate' too much things, even chocolate and vanilla and coffee.

If you can get past this and understand why when someone try to make a theory, they needs fact, even useless one, then you will find invaluable information. That being said, It is a good thing that it is like this. The Supreme is not to be made a common story. The truth need to be found in the mid of confusion. Both are equally important here in 3D for a huge reason: Freewill. If everything were truth, there would no experience, there would be no learning.

Now about 'doing' nothing and being enlightened, I totally agree with you, it doesnt work like that. You need to remove all the obstacles before, and those obstacle are set up by your higher self (yourself in the future at a state very close to the creator one). So to reach 'enlightnement', you need to learn all the lessons that your higher self is setting up for you on a daily basis. Understand those, or they will repeat over and over. From all those lessons, there is a point where you can be enlightened, it will happen suddenly. But trying to be enlightened while dismissing the obstacles is fooling yourself. Your higher self will set up difficult catalyst for you anyway.

[Belle]

Trying to bypass my insecurity (I'm a 31/4), would you calibrate me, please Eternal_One?

[Eternal_One]

Trying to bypass my insecurity (I'm a 31/4), would you calibrate me, please Eternal_One?

Here is some simple hints to bypass your insecurity:
- You are not your body, nor your mind
- Your soul is immortal.
- Everything is a play, illusion.
- Your higher self is guiding you to reach the same state he is in. So in a way, you are guiding yourself. In a sense, you already "made" it.

Now about your calibration:

I got 594.

[Belle]

Thank you so much, Eternal_One.

I've been working on the book "Three Magic Words" and practicing releasing the idea that "I" am not wife, mother, musician, or any other descriptors...and accepting/knowing that "I am"...it is helping. ACIM helps with reality/illusion...and it's all illusion. My conscious mind accepts and rejects these things at the same time. It's become a matter of looking past the conscious mind and all it's "roadblocks to growth" and turning to the subconscious where all is known.

My insecurity said not to ask for a calibration because it would be much lower than anyone else here. To "I am" it does not matter what it is or what anyone else thinks. Growing sometimes means taking a leap of faith and trusting "I am".

[Fred Steeves]

Hello Eternal One - I am Fred S.'s wife, Heidi. Fred told me about this. Could you please give me a reading, too? Thank you!

[Eternal_One]

My insecurity said not to ask for a calibration because it would be much lower than anyone else here. To "I am" it does not matter what it is or what anyone else thinks. Growing sometimes means taking a leap of faith and trusting "I am".

There is absolutly no difference. We all start to climb the mountain from the same point. Some made it to the top, some others are midway, others just started climbing. To say that those that made it to the top are "better" that those that are still climbing is a strange way of viewing thing.

We ALL make it, without exception, it is just a question of time.

[Eternal_One]

Hello Eternal One - I am Fred S.'s wife, Heidi. Fred told me about this. Could you please give me a reading, too? Thank you!

Your picture look very very very familiar that the one of your husband. ;)

Joke aside, I got 599.

Much love and blessings :)

[Fred Steeves]

Hello Eternal One - I am Fred S.'s wife, Heidi. Fred told me about this. Could you please give me a reading, too? Thank you!

Your picture look very very very familiar that the one of your husband. ;)

Joke aside, I got 599.


Much love and blessings :)

Fred back now, and thanks Eternal One. Yeah, I knew I had found the love of my life when I met a girl who looked just like me. LOL!!!:kiss:

Cheers,
Fred

[Eternal_One]

Hello Eternal One - I am Fred S.'s wife, Heidi. Fred told me about this. Could you please give me a reading, too? Thank you!

Your picture look very very very familiar that the one of your husband. ;)

Joke aside, I got 599.


Much love and blessings :)

Fred back now, and thanks Eternal One. Yeah, I knew I had found the love of my life when I met a girl who looked just like me. LOL!!!:kiss:

Cheers,
Fred

Well It happen to really exist : Twin soul, Same soul, two bodies.

I happened to met mine :)

[Eternal_One]

In ancient times, a King had a boulder placed on a roadway. Then he hid himself and watched to see if anyone would remove the huge rock. Some of the king's wealthiest merchants and courtiers came by and simply walked around it. Many loudly blamed the king for not keeping the roads clear, but none did anything about getting the stone out of the way. Then a peasant came along carrying a load of vegetables. Upon approaching the boulder, the peasant laid down his burden and tried to move the stone to the side of the road. After much pushing and straining, he finally succeeded. After the peasant picked up his load of vegetables, he noticed a purse lying in the road where the boulder had been. The purse contained many gold coins and a note from the king indicating that the gold was for the person who removed the boulder from the roadway.

The peasant learned what many of us never understand. Every obstacle presents an opportunity to improve our condition.

[Calz]

Hello Eternal One - I am Fred S.'s wife, Heidi. Fred told me about this. Could you please give me a reading, too? Thank you!

Your picture look very very very familiar that the one of your husband. ;)

Joke aside, I got 599.


Much love and blessings :)

Fred back now, and thanks Eternal One. Yeah, I knew I had found the love of my life when I met a girl who looked just like me. LOL!!!:kiss:

Cheers,
Fred

Takes the term "walk-in" to a new level :dirol:

Not even talkin calibrated variety :haha:

[Eternal_One]

Two people are lost in the desert. They are dying from hunger and thirst. Finally, they come to a high wall. On the other side they can hear the sound of a waterfall and birds singing. Above, they can see the branches of a lush tree extending over the top of the wall. Its fruit look delicious. One of them manages to climb over the wall and disappears down the other side. The other, instead, returns to the desert to help other lost travelers find their way to the oasis.

[Eternal_One]

A certain rabbi was adored by everyone in his community, who were all enchanted with everything he said. Apart from Isaac, that is, who never missed an opportunity to contradict the rabbi's interpretations and point out errors in his teaching. The others were disgusted by Isaac's behaviour, but could do nothing about it.

One day, Isaac died. During the funeral, the community noticed that the rabbi was looking very sad.

'Why so sad?' asked someone. 'He found fault with everything you did!'

'I'm not sad for my friend, who is now in heaven,' replied the rabbi.
'I am sad for myself. While you all revered me, he challenged me, and so I was forced to improve. Now that he's gone, I'm afraid I might stop growing.'

[Carmody]

I would be interested in a reading from you. Thank you, for your efforts, in advance .

Hello modwiz,

I got 639.

Much blessings to you.

;)

you are making me curious now....

Are you asking for a calibration or not?

Well, my back could use some work, but that's Modwiz's department. :) (Jacob's Ladder context)

Like a game of Blackjack, 'hit me'. :p

Hello, I got 624.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I have a question Eternal One. What does this forum calibrate at?

This forum being a 'lightworker' place, It would probably calibrate around 600. But I need to check. I dont find this info to be harmful.

I got 515, which is pretty "good" for a forum.

Yeah, I've been higher before, but I tend to bounce around quite a bit. I've been in that state where every moment an obvious dance of perfect poetry, where each breath and motion of the world is perfect and sublime. Everything simply is.

As fun as that is, I came back down to the ground as communication to and with others is, well, it's relevance is OK, but it could be better, possibly. So I re-assume the cloak of normalcy and hat of addictions and drives. And simply do it again, inch by inch.

[manny]

Trying to bypass my insecurity (I'm a 31/4), would you calibrate me, please Eternal_One?

Here is some simple hints to bypass your insecurity:
- You are not your body, nor your mind
- Your soul is immortal.
- Everything is a play, illusion.
- Your higher self is guiding you to reach the same state he is in. So in a way, you are guiding yourself. In a sense, you already "made" it.

Now about your calibration:

I got 594.
now this really gets me .i have difficulty in understanding.

Your higher self is guiding you to reach the same state he is in. So in a way, you are guiding yourself

i may have stated before...is the higher self a separate entity to the lower self.
i.e the lower self is the ego..the puppet.
and the higher self is the watcher ..guider

if this is so then are we just not puppets on a string.
please try to explain
:confused:

my understanding is that we are one.so we is the wrong word.
I am one.just learning and developing.
for a higher self to watch over self means that the higher self has more knowlegde and understanding.
which does not make sense if i am one with self.

what does make sense is I AM ME IN THE NOW.

no higher self just ME..I...in the cycle of devolping.

[Eternal_One]

now this really gets me .i have difficulty in understanding.

Your higher self is guiding you to reach the same state he is in. So in a way, you are guiding yourself

i may have stated before...is the higher self a separate entity to the lower self.
i.e the lower self is the ego..the puppet.
and the higher self is the watcher ..guider

if this is so then are we just not puppets on a string.
please try to explain
:confused:

my understanding is that we are one.so we is the wrong word.
I am one.just learning and developing.
for a higher self to watch over self means that the higher self has more knowlegde and understanding.
which does not make sense if i am one with self.

what does make sense is I AM ME IN THE NOW.

no higher self just ME..I...in the cycle of devolping.

The Higher Self is the self which exists with full understanding of the accumulation of experiences which have not been learned properly. It aids the entity in achieving healing, and assists in programming further life experiences.

It is the YOU, but in the future.

"Thus the Higher Self is like a map on which the destination is known and the roads are shown, and the traveler has already reached the destination in some universe, maybe this one. The Higher Self at the destination looks back on the way that has been traveled and assists the traveler in arriving at the goal in an easier way."

Now each higher self are connected to each others, we are all One.

[manny]

so are you saying that the higher self is reliving a path of which is already known trying to make amends?

what are we to the higher self?

if the higher self is from the future then it knows the path.so should we as one be in the future?
looking back at our journey.but to manipulate the past causes paradoxes?

the problem is i see the higher self and me as two separate enties of which i cannot understand.

[Eternal_One]

so are you saying that the higher self is reliving a path of which is already known trying to make amends?

The higher self take care of all the You in different lifetime/parallel existence, it is his "job". Not to make amends, but to guide. It is a paradox, but you need to understand that time is from the view of the creator simultaneous.

If you will, here is a metaphor: In a school, you need students and teachers. The higher self is your teacher. He set up lessons and homeworks. The students are You in different lifetime. You are free to make the homework and go to school or not. The point being is that you will retake the class if you do not attend. Now once you do graduate from a lot of class, you will become teacher.


if the higher self is from the future then it knows the path.

To an extent, but there need to have a huge amount of free will too. The higher self knows which lesson you need to learn, he knows from his own experience what is needed or not.
The Higher Self protects when possible and guides when asked, but the force of free will is paramount. The seeming contradictions of determinism and free will melt away when it is accepted that there is such a thing as true simultaneity.

So the Higher Self can program the entity for certain lessons and predisposing limitations, but the rest is up to the free choice of the entity.


looking back at our journey.but to manipulate the past causes paradoxes?

Not causing paradoxes, just doing his job.


the problem is i see the higher self and me as two separate enties of which i cannot understand. so should we as one be in the future?

It is the same entity, but at different stage of evolution. Time is in fact simultaneous. The Higher Self is the end result of all the development experienced by You up to that point. (end of 6th density, you being in 3rd density now).

[Eternal_One]

Rabbi Elisha ben Abuyah used to say: 'Those who are open to life's lessons and who do not live on a diet of prejudices are like a blank sheet of paper on which God writes his words in divine ink.

Those who view the world through cynical, prejudiced eyes are like a sheet of paper that has already been filled and on which there is no room for any new words.

Do not concern yourself with what you know or what you do not know. Do not think about the past or the future; merely allow God's hands to write the surprises of the present on each new day.'

[Catsquotl]

Hi Eternal_one

Can you calibrate my number?

With Love
Eelco

[Eternal_One]

Hi Eternal_one

Can you calibrate my number?

With Love
Eelco

Hello Catsquotl,

I got 668.

Much love and blessings.

:)

[Eternal_One]

One of the monks at Sceta committed a grave fault, and the wisest hermit was summoned to judge him. The hermit refused, but when the other monks insisted, he answered their call. He arrived carrying on his back a bucket with a hole in it, out of which sand was spilling.
'I came to judge my brother,' said the hermit to the monastery superior.
'My sins are spilling out behind me like the sand from this bucket, but since I don't look back and don't notice my own sins, I was summoned to judge my brother!'
The monks immediately gave up any idea of punishment.

[Eternal_One]

“When you look at your companions, try to see yourself,” said the Japanese teacher Okakura Kakuso.

“But isn't that an awfully selfish attitude?” asked a disciple.

“If we are always concerned about ourselves, we will never see the good things that others have to offer.”

“If only we did always see the good things in others,” replied Kakuso.

“But the truth is that when we look at another person, we are only looking for defects. We try to discover his wicked side because we want him to be worse than us. We never forgive him when he hurts us because we do not believe that we would ever be forgiven. We manage to wound him with harsh words, declaring that we are telling the truth, when all we are doing is trying to hide it from ourselves. We pretend that we are important so that no one else will see how fragile we are.
That is why whenever you judge your brother, be aware that you are the one who is on trial.”

[Eternal_One]

A Rabbi gathered together his students and asked them: 'How do we know the exact moment when night ends and day begins?'

'It's when, standing some way away, you can tell a sheep from a dog,' said one boy.

The Rabbi was not content with the answer. Another student said: 'No, it's when, standing some way away, you can tell an olive tree from a fig tree.'

'No, that's not a good definition either.'

'Well, what's the right answer?' asked the boys.

And the Rabbi said: 'When a stranger approaches, and we think he is our brother, that is the moment when night ends and day begins.'

[Eternal_One]

An Indian legend tells of a man who used to carry water every day to his village, using two large pitchers tied on either end of a piece of wood, which he placed across his shoulders.
One of the pitchers was older than the other and was full of small cracks; every time the man came back along the path to his house, half of the water was lost.
For two years, the man made the same journey. The younger pitcher was always very proud of the way it did its work and was sure that it was up to the task for which it had been created, while the other pitcher was mortally ashamed that it could carry out only half its task, even though it knew that the cracks were the result of long years of work.
So ashamed was the old pitcher that, one day, while the man was preparing to fill it up with water from the well, it decided to speak to him.
'I wish to apologise because, due to my age, you only manage to take home half the water you fill me with, and thus quench only half the thirst awaiting you in your house.'
The man smiled and said:
'When we go back, be sure to take a careful look at the path.'
The pitcher did as the man asked and noticed many flowers and plants growing along one side of the path.
'Do you see how much more beautiful nature is on your side of the road?' the man remarked.
'I knew you had cracks, but I decided to take advantage of them. I sowed vegetables and flowers there, and you always watered them. I've picked dozens of roses to decorate my house, and my children have had lettuce, cabbage and onions to eat. If you were not the way you are, I could never have done this. We all, at some point, grow old and acquire other qualities which can always be turned to good advantage.'

[Tarka the Duck]

Hello E O
Could you please explain the significance of all the stories you are now writing on this thread? It seems to be taking a different direction from the one you originally posted.
Thanks
Tarka

[DNA]

Hello E O
Could you please explain the significance of all the stories you are now writing on this thread? It seems to be taking a different direction from the one you originally posted.
Thanks
Tarka

Hi Tarka
I think this song could help answer your question.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbgEwcwLaG4

[Sierra]

<plopping down on my pillow for the next story>

I am loving your stories Eternal_One. The one about the cracked pitcher had my guts for garters. I know people like that. they do so much good and feel so bad about themselves. Now I have a story to tell them :)

Thank you. Thank you very much.

Sierra

[Eternal_One]

Hello E O
Could you please explain the significance of all the stories you are now writing on this thread? It seems to be taking a different direction from the one you originally posted.
Thanks
Tarka

Hello TTD

Those stories and parables are full of spiritual and moral insights. As this thread is about personal and spiritual growth, those stories are exactly that. They are the same thing that the quote I wrote on the main post.

[Eternal_One]

Now for all the haters, Yes I am talking about you DNA and Tarka the Duck.

If this thread is not helpful for you, why are you trying to ruin it for everybody else? Let some space for others to grow, please.

Anyone who thinks he knows what is good or what is bad for another is dangerous. And thats exactly what you are doing. All of this thread is recommendation. No one is forced to be calibrated, the same way you are not forced to go see a fortune teller.

[truthseekerdan]

No one is forced to be calibrated, the same way you are not forced to go see a fortune teller.

You got that comparison 'right'. ;)


Much Love and wisdom to All

[TWINCANS]

Hello Eternal One - I am Fred S.'s wife, Heidi. Fred told me about this. Could you please give me a reading, too? Thank you!

Your picture look very very very familiar that the one of your husband. ;)

Joke aside, I got 599.


Much love and blessings :)

Fred back now, and thanks Eternal One. Yeah, I knew I had found the love of my life when I met a girl who looked just like me. LOL!!!:kiss:

Cheers,
Fred

Well It happen to really exist : Twin soul, Same soul, two bodies.

I happened to met mine :)


There are two terms in particular that are being tossed about here which need more understanding. They are Twin Soul (vs Twin Flame as example) and Higher Self.

Perhaps if these terms have intrigued you, it would be a good idea to delve deeper into these concepts elsewhere.

[Eternal_One]

There are two terms in particular that are being tossed about here which need more understanding. They are Twin Soul (vs Twin Flame as example) and Higher Self.

Perhaps if these terms have intrigued you, it would be a good idea to delve deeper into these concepts elsewhere.

Twin soul is the same thing as twin flame. This has nothing to do with the Higher self. It has been explained on later post.

[TWINCANS]

There are two terms in particular that are being tossed about here which need more understanding. They are Twin Soul (vs Twin Flame as example) and Higher Self.

Perhaps if these terms have intrigued you, it would be a good idea to delve deeper into these concepts elsewhere.

Twin soul is the same thing as twin flame. This has nothing to do with the Higher self. It has been explained on later post.


In your understanding.

[Eternal_One]

There are two terms in particular that are being tossed about here which need more understanding. They are Twin Soul (vs Twin Flame as example) and Higher Self.

Perhaps if these terms have intrigued you, it would be a good idea to delve deeper into these concepts elsewhere.

Twin soul is the same thing as twin flame. This has nothing to do with the Higher self. It has been explained on later post.


In your understanding.

Care to share your point of view on those three terms?
- Higher Self
- Twin Soul
- Twin Flame

[Tarka the Duck]

Now for all the haters, Yes I am talking about you DNA and Tarka the Duck.

If this thread is not helpful for you, why are you trying to ruin it for everybody else? Let some space for others to grow, please.

Anyone who thinks he knows what is good or what is bad for another is dangerous. And thats exactly what you are doing. All of this thread is recommendation. No one is forced to be calibrated, the same way you are not forced to go see a fortune teller.

Hater? No. Enquirer? Hopefully. I find your tone somewhat aggressive.

Are your true colours beginning to show?

Tarka

[Eternal_One]

Now for all the haters, Yes I am talking about you DNA and Tarka the Duck.

If this thread is not helpful for you, why are you trying to ruin it for everybody else? Let some space for others to grow, please.

Anyone who thinks he knows what is good or what is bad for another is dangerous. And thats exactly what you are doing. All of this thread is recommendation. No one is forced to be calibrated, the same way you are not forced to go see a fortune teller.

Hater? No. Enquirer? Hopefully. I find your tone somewhat aggressive.

Are your true colours beginning to show?

Tarka

Tarka, and you are the one that PM me and tell me that You denounced me to Admins because my thread is dangerous, and that I will take personal responsability for what happen here.

It seems the admin have decided to not delete it.

You find whatever tone you choose for yourself. Can you hear the tone of my voice from just words?

[manny]

The Higher Self is the end result of all the development experienced by You up to that point. by E 1

the higher self is the end result of all development.
so i exist as a being in another dimension with full experience of everything.
then if that is so,why am i looking back at this reality in the now.
should my higher self not be seeking it,s own perfection.
or looking back at re run that it has already taken.

[TWINCANS]

There are two terms in particular that are being tossed about here which need more understanding. They are Twin Soul (vs Twin Flame as example) and Higher Self.

Perhaps if these terms have intrigued you, it would be a good idea to delve deeper into these concepts elsewhere.

Twin soul is the same thing as twin flame. This has nothing to do with the Higher self. It has been explained on later post.


In your understanding.

Care to share your point of view on those three terms?
- Higher Self
- Twin Soul
- Twin Flame

I think I was clear that I encourage Avalonians to undertake their own research.

[Eternal_One]

The Higher Self is the end result of all the development experienced by You up to that point. by E 1

the higher self is the end result of all development.
so i exist as a being in another dimension with full experience of everything.
then if that is so,why am i looking back at this reality in the now.
should my higher self not be seeking it,s own perfection.
or looking back at re run that it has already taken.

Your higher self does too seek its own perfection, but at the same time has a honnor/duty to program and guide all the others 'lower self'.

[manny]

The Higher Self is the end result of all the development experienced by You up to that point. by E 1

the higher self is the end result of all development.
so i exist as a being in another dimension with full experience of everything.
then if that is so,why am i looking back at this reality in the now.
should my higher self not be seeking it,s own perfection.
or looking back at re run that it has already taken.

Your higher self does too seek its own perfection, but at the same time has a honnor/duty to program and guide all the others 'lower self'.
why would it program and guide the lower self when it has already reached its own goal.
why take a step backwards and not forwards?

for me in the NOW .
what it means is that life has been a journey.
everything i have experienced has made me what i am today.
would i like to go back and guide myself,to change a past deed?
if so then it would change of who i am today!

[Eternal_One]

The Higher Self is the end result of all the development experienced by You up to that point. by E 1

the higher self is the end result of all development.
so i exist as a being in another dimension with full experience of everything.
then if that is so,why am i looking back at this reality in the now.
should my higher self not be seeking it,s own perfection.
or looking back at re run that it has already taken.

Your higher self does too seek its own perfection, but at the same time has a honnor/duty to program and guide all the others 'lower self'.
why would it program and guide the lower self when it has already reached its own goal.
why take a step backwards and not forwards?

Why do i try to help others if I know everybody is already saved?

Because it can. Its a duty/honnor to serve others.

[pickle]

This thread was started by someone that has something to share that a great number of others have enjoyed - it was given in good faith imo.

If it rattles anyones cage because it doesn't fit with their belief system, aren't we guilty of some kind of prejudice, or worse, nitpicking on details that none of us can possibly know for sure (if we're lucky) until we slide down the curtains of life? Are we not applying some kind of snobbery when we say anothers thoughts/beliefs don't align with our own?

I have a mental picture of 'me Mum coming to drag me off the playing field 'cos she doesn't like me playing with my new friend who's from one of them hot countries with funny religions and lives in a council house. hehehe. Meh, you had to be there........


Peace, love, and my version of happiness to the lot of you. Now play nice!

Pickle





Political correctness warning: This post was made in good faith and good humour, hope you take it that way.

[manny]

this thread has opened a a doorway that some people may not understand.
why am i asking ...because it interests me so.
i am not trying to disprove anything ..only to ask questions.
that is my nature.
sorry if it may come across wrong ,but that is not my intention.

this thread interests me greatly...
but I have questions that need to be asked.
unfortunately i don,t roll over and accept everything.
that,s why we are here on this forum.

unless you can give me a link to the idiots guide to the higher self..
then i will continue to ask until i understand..

[manny]

The Higher Self is the end result of all the development experienced by You up to that point. by E 1

the higher self is the end result of all development.
so i exist as a being in another dimension with full experience of everything.
then if that is so,why am i looking back at this reality in the now.
should my higher self not be seeking it,s own perfection.
or looking back at re run that it has already taken.

Your higher self does too seek its own perfection, but at the same time has a honnor/duty to program and guide all the others 'lower self'.
why would it program and guide the lower self when it has already reached its own goal.
why take a step backwards and not forwards?

Why do i try to help others if I know everybody is already saved?

Because it can. Its a duty/honnor to server others.

exactly why would you if you know they are already saved.
do they need help?if they are already saved.

if i knew everyone was already saved.
i would walk around laughing at the greed,insecurities ,lifestyles of people,knowing that they will laugh to,when they realise.

[Eternal_One]

for me in the NOW .
what it means is that life has been a journey.
everything i have experienced has made me what i am today.
would i like to go back and guide myself,to change a past deed?
if so then it would change of who i am today!

If you had the possibility to help the totality of your past life and guide them, would you do it?

If you know your knowledge could bring them a little faster or smoother to the point you are, would you do that?

I personally would without hesitation.

[Jake]

Ladies and gentlemen, the indecency towards others is not preferred. Please, if you are finding yourself challenged by another member, do not resort to negatave jargon. This is a powerful discussion. I love it! Thanks to all who have given a part of themselves to this thread. I would love to see it stay upbeat and positive. :):):) Jake.

[pickle]

this thread has opened a a doorway that some people may not understand.
why am i asking ...because it interests me so.
i am not trying to disprove anything ..only to ask questions.
that is my nature.
sorry if it may come across wrong ,but that is not my intention.

this thread interests me greatly...
but I have questions that need to be asked.
unfortunately i don,t roll over and accept everything.
that,s why we are here on this forum.

unless you can give me a link to the idiots guide to the higher self..
then i will continue to ask until i understand..

A corking way of putting this into perspective Manny - especially because you're looking for answers but don't roll over and accept them - thanks for that.

I won't thank you for the 'Idiots Guide to the Higher Self' comment though, your comment made me snort coffee all over the keyboard ;) ...and please let me know if you find a copy, I could use it!

Peace,

Pickle

[manny]

why is the higher self wanting to guide as what has already been in it,s life?

a valid question.
from someone who is trying to understand .

[manny]

for me in the NOW .
what it means is that life has been a journey.
everything i have experienced has made me what i am today.
would i like to go back and guide myself,to change a past deed?
if so then it would change of who i am today!

If you had the possibility to help the totality of your past life and guide them, would you do it?

If you know your knowledge could bring them a little faster or smoother to the point you are, would you do that?

I personally would without hesitation.
why change the past.it is the past that made you who you are today?
without that history and experience.what are you.
unless the higher self seeks ultimate perfection.
then thats another story.

[Sierra]

Tarka the Duck,

I understand you object to this thread and you have opened up another thread to express your objections. That is fine. To continue to post your objections on Eternal_One's thread however, is not fine.

I do not see Eternal_One attempting to kidnap your thread and I would ask you respect his thread as well.

Sierra

[Eternal_One]

for me in the NOW .
what it means is that life has been a journey.
everything i have experienced has made me what i am today.
would i like to go back and guide myself,to change a past deed?
if so then it would change of who i am today!

If you had the possibility to help the totality of your past life and guide them, would you do it?

If you know your knowledge could bring them a little faster or smoother to the point you are, would you do that?

I personally would without hesitation.
why change the past.it is the past that made you who you are today?

Its not about changing the past. Time is simultaneous. You are existing at all levels simultaneously. Without Higher self, you could never been here at first.

The Higher Self does not manipulate its past selves. It protects when possible and guides when asked.

My knowledge on the subject goes so far.

[manny]

this thread has opened a a doorway that some people may not understand.
why am i asking ...because it interests me so.
i am not trying to disprove anything ..only to ask questions.
that is my nature.
sorry if it may come across wrong ,but that is not my intention.

this thread interests me greatly...
but I have questions that need to be asked.
unfortunately i don,t roll over and accept everything.
that,s why we are here on this forum.

unless you can give me a link to the idiots guide to the higher self..
then i will continue to ask until i understand..

A corking way of putting this into perspective Manny - especially because you're looking for answers but don't roll over and accept them - thanks for that.

I won't thank you for the 'Idiots Guide to the Higher Self' comment though, your comment made me snort coffee all over the keyboard ;) ...and please let me know if you find a copy, I could use it!
then please don,t disrespect my post if i can not understand them.
i have not in any intention been rude or disrespectful.
i am seeking truth for self.sounds selfish but believe me we will all experience our own truths to life.

the idiots guide to the higher self can be found here..
www.seek and you will find me.com


Peace,

Pickle
then please don,t disrespect my post if i can not understand them.
i have not in any intention been rude or disrespectful.
i am seeking truth for self.sounds selfish but believe me we will all experience our own truths to life.

the idiots guide to the higher self can be found here..
www.seek and you will find me.com

[manny]

for me in the NOW .
what it means is that life has been a journey.
everything i have experienced has made me what i am today.
would i like to go back and guide myself,to change a past deed?
if so then it would change of who i am today!

If you had the possibility to help the totality of your past life and guide them, would you do it?

If you know your knowledge could bring them a little faster or smoother to the point you are, would you do that?

I personally would without hesitation.
why change the past.it is the past that made you who you are today?

Its not about changing the past. Time is simultaneous. You are existing at all levels simultaneously. Without Higher self, you could never been here at first.

The Higher Self does not manipulate its past selves. It protects when possible and guides when asked.

My knowledge on the subject goes so far.
why is it guiding to what has been?for the past makes us what we are?

sorry if my questions seem abrupt or direct but i am trying to understand

[giovonni]

i am enjoying this thread; i sense it holds the potential in healing something in all of us here. :)

[manny]

if we are all guided by our higher selfs then would we not see a perfect world?

[Eternal_One]

For all that want to understand a little better about the higher self, here are two possible route:

- Law of one - Ra material (http://www.llresearch.org/library/the_law_of_one_pdf/the_law_of_one_pdf.aspx)
- Seth Material - Jane Roberts

Both are channeled material, use discernement and filter what resonate or not with you.

I do recommend the first one. I dont know much about the second one, beside the calibration I get (which is low).

POST EDIT:Jane roberts having written many books, it just seem that one of the book was calibrating around 200. Another one calibrate around 500. Both are recommended.

[Eternal_One]

if we are all guided by our higher selfs then would we not see a perfect world?

That depends on your own definition of a perfect world.

Does a fully peacefull world would be a place where each entities can learn the lessons that are needed for themself to grow?

I will quote david hawkins on the subject (the quote is part of the main post):

- Presume that the world's actual 'purpose' is perfect and fully known only to God. See it as neutral overall but with the benefit that it provides optimal opportunity for spiritual growth and the evolution of consciousness. It is a school for the enlightenment and the revelation of Divinity whereby consciousness/awareness reawakens to is Source. Thus, to pursue enlightenment in and of itself serves the world and God.

[manny]

For all that want to understand a little better about the higher self, here are two possible route:

- Law of one - Ra material | link (http://www.llresearch.org/library/the_law_of_one_pdf/the_law_of_one_pdf.aspx)
- Seth Material - Jane Roberts

Both are channeled material, use discernement and filter what resonate or not with you.

I do recommend the first one. I dont about know the second one, beside the calibration I get (which is low).
ok E 1.
now please do,nt take this negatively.
the law of one is maybe a channeling of someones experiences.

now what you are saying is look there for a answer.
but what you have been saying is look at your higher self.
so which is it our higher self,(our inner self)
or somebody else s work.the Ra material.

every religion has it,s own answer if you are willing to follow it.

[pickle]

then please don,t disrespect my post if i can not understand them.
i have not in any intention been rude or disrespectful.
i am seeking truth for self.sounds selfish but believe me we will all experience our own truths to life.

the idiots guide to the higher self can be found here..
www.seek and you will find me.com

Hi Manny,

I don't know what happened there, perhaps you thought my post (post 228) was referring to you? - it wasn't, and I apologise sincerely if I gave you or anyone else the wrong impression.

My reply post (233) was a genuine 'thank you', and in particular, admiration for your comment:

"but I have questions that need to be asked. unfortunately i don,t roll over and accept everything"
...for the simple reason that I try to encourage my children to do exactly that - it's a rare and valuable thing for all of us, wherever we are 'at' on the ladder of life.

Once again, I apologise for any impression you got other than the good intent towards you with my post (and my iffy humour about the book!). I'll work on being more specific in future!


Peace,

Pickle

[Eternal_One]

For all that want to understand a little better about the higher self, here are two possible route:

- Law of one - Ra material | link (http://www.llresearch.org/library/the_law_of_one_pdf/the_law_of_one_pdf.aspx)
- Seth Material - Jane Roberts

Both are channeled material, use discernement and filter what resonate or not with you.

I do recommend the first one. I dont about know the second one, beside the calibration I get (which is low).
ok E 1.
now please do,nt take this negatively.
the law of one is maybe a channeling of someones experiences.

now what you are saying is look there for a answer.
but what you have been saying is look at your higher self.
so which is it our higher self,(our inner self)
or somebody else s work.the Ra material.

every religion has it,s own answer if you are willing to follow it.

I was just suggesting some possible route. No more, no less. Now you can find all answers within too.

A rabbi spent his whole life teaching that all the answers to our questions are in ourselves, but his congregation insisted on consulting him about everything they did.

One day, the rabbi had an idea. He placed a notice on the door of his house, saying: 'ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS - 100 MOEDAS PER ANSWER.'

A shopkeeper decided to pay the one hundred moedas. He gave the rabbi the money and said: 'Don't you think that's rather a lot to charge for a question?'

'Yes, I do,' said the rabbi. 'And I have just answered your question. If you want to know anything else, you'll have to pay another one hundred moedas, or else look for the answer inside yourself, which is far cheaper and much more efficient.'

From then on, no one bothered him.

[manny]

then please don,t disrespect my post if i can not understand them.
i have not in any intention been rude or disrespectful.
i am seeking truth for self.sounds selfish but believe me we will all experience our own truths to life.

the idiots guide to the higher self can be found here..
www.seek and you will find me.com

Hi Manny,

I don't know what happened there, perhaps you thought my post (post 228) was referring to you? - it wasn't, and I apologise sincerely if I gave you or anyone else the wrong impression.

My reply post (233) was a genuine 'thank you', and in particular, admiration for your comment:

"but I have questions that need to be asked. unfortunately i don,t roll over and accept everything"
...for the simple reason that I try to encourage my children to do exactly that - it's a rare and valuable thing for all of us, wherever we are 'at' on the ladder of life.

Once again, I apologise for any impression you got other than the good intent towards you with my post (and my iffy humour about the book!). I'll work on being more specific in future!


Peace,

Pickle
no i apologise ,i read it wrong.sorry my mistake.

[giovonni]

For all that want to understand a little better about the higher self, here are two possible route:

- Law of one - Ra material (http://www.llresearch.org/library/the_law_of_one_pdf/the_law_of_one_pdf.aspx)
- Seth Material - Jane Roberts

Both are channeled material, use discernement and filter what resonate or not with you.

I do recommend the first one. I dont know much about the second one, beside the calibration I get (which is low).

Thanks ~ the Seth Material, in particular Seth Speaks: The Eternal Validity of the Soul ~ is what truly awoke me years ago !

Perhaps, now is a good time to ask for a calibration my friend, but please do send it to me in a pm :lol:

[manny]

the way i see it ,is that tptb have miscontrude all religions .
so many people are at a loss as to what to actually believe., in the terms of higher self,religion,god ect.
but in the end they have done us a favour.
we do not accept what we are told,and taught.
who do you actually beleive.
so many people wanting to tell you their truths.

all i can say is have faith to all possibilities .but only with what resonates with you in the now.

peace

[truthseekerdan]

Asking, "What is the Truth?" is a demolition project. Most of spirituality is a construction project. We're ascending and ascending.... It just keeps building, and a person feels, "I'm getting better and better." But enlightenment is a demolition project. Many people ask, "How do I integrate my spirituality into everyday life?" You don't. You can't. How could you integrate it? You can't stuff the infinite into your limited life.

In the end, the only "Truth is Infinite Love, everything else is illusion".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoIBnDRoNsU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoIBnDRoNsU

[Fred Steeves]

For all that want to understand a little better about the higher self, here are two possible route:

- Law of one - Ra material (http://www.llresearch.org/library/the_law_of_one_pdf/the_law_of_one_pdf.aspx)
- Seth Material - Jane Roberts

Both are channeled material, use discernement and filter what resonate or not with you.

I do recommend the first one. I dont know much about the second one, beside the calibration I get (which is low).

Huh, I'm surprised at your low rating of Jane Robert's Seth material Eternal-One, her book "Adventures in Consciousness" opened avenues in my fragile egg shell mind I had never dreamed possible a few years ago. I still read it once a year or so just to see "what's new". Ha Ha.


May as well ask, what is your rating of "Adventures in Consciousness" vs. the "Ra Material"?

Cheers,
Fred