Wanna go ***WAY*** outside dah box???

[Calz]

Listened to one of the wildest radio interviews ever last night. Will get to that directly. First we need to set the table a bit here.

For you, the noble and discerning Avalonian, to be interested in this interview there needs to be a baseline belief in (or at least open to) two things:


1) The Electric Universe Theory

2) Gaia as a conscious and living entity


If you can not go there then this is *not* for you. You will laugh hysterically, come back to post "colorful remarks" and make Cow's job more difficult. We don't want that.

:cow:


If you are a "fence sitter" on those two topics here is a little food for thought:


8693


A magnificent description of electricity in space. Authors Thornhill and Talbott offer a sweeping critique of today's popular cosmology. They show that galaxies, stars (including our Sun), and comets can be best understood through the well-tested behavior of electricity the one force about which astronomers seem to know almost nothing. Having now devoted many years to investigating this question, I am in full agreement. --Donald E. Scott, professor of electrical engineering (retired)

On a plane back to London I read The Electric Universe from cover to cover (the light above my seat was the only one that remained on throughout the night). What a masterpiece. Each single sentence is absolutely spot-on and well formulated. This is just such a powerful textbook the potential and logic of the electric universe theory leaps off every page. The omission of mythological and other ancient data from the argument will undoubtedly help to forestall accusations of using 'tales and stories' to bolster a scientific theory. The book also conveys a strong impression that this theory has reached full maturation; it's not the incoherent ranting of someone exploding with a lot of new ideas, but obviously the fruit of many years of careful thinking and making associations. The soberness of tone and the lavish illustrations strike the right chord and I find it hard to imagine a reader who would not find the argument compelling. I have nothing to contend with concerning the main argument. --Rens van der Sluijs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUHQL9QQekE


Many great researchers on consciousness ... Gregg Braden and David Sereda come to mind.

Vast quantities of good information and resources on the net for those two topics ... but that is not the nature of this thread.


Now on with the show!!!


This is a 1 hour interview with Jay Weidner on what he claims to be a little known "secret" of alchemy. I really like Jay's material and he does go "out there" on some things but this one is pushing the envelope even for him.

Most compelling is ... WHAT IF THIS IS ALL TRUE???



http://cosmicpenguin.com/Zany/A_Fireside_Chat_2010-12-18.mp3


(note: if you have trouble with the mp3 you can go to Zany's mp3 archive below. The show is Dec. 18, 2010)


http://cosmicpenguin.com/Zany/

[conk]

Electric universe. They do make a good case for it indeed.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/home.htm

[dourpil]

Haven't watched the video yet (nor listened to the interview), but the title reminded me of the theory developed by the Hatem brothers: "hyperscience". You can read about it here: http://www.hatem.com/summary.htm

I haven't read everything on the website either but I've watched a documentary about Léon Raoul Hatem, and basically what he says is that magnetism is the basis of the forces that exist in our universe. I'm not going to go any further into that because I'll probably make mistakes.

I don't know if the two theories join each other, I'll watch "The electric universe" and come back here. Thank you for the informations

[Calz]

I just put up the 1st of 6 youtubes so you will need to follow the others on the selections to the right after you finish the first :)

[PHARAOH]

Nothing- No. + Thing or # + Thing = Number of things, which gives us Something or Sum + Thing. The number of things gives us the sum of things. Make sense?

[greybeard]

I just put up the 1st of 6 youtubes so you will need to follow the others on the selections to the right after you finish the first :)

Im downloading them all just now.
I put them all in the same file and then they play sequentially, makes it easier.
Im open minded, the moment I think I know ----I dont. smiling

Thanks Claz

[Calz]

I just put up the 1st of 6 youtubes so you will need to follow the others on the selections to the right after you finish the first :)

Im downloading them all just now.
I put them all in the same file and then they play sequentially, makes it easier.
Im open minded, the moment I think I know ----I dont. smiling

Thanks Claz

Thank you Chris ... very helpful :)

[red_rose]

Wow - thank you for introducing me to Jay Weidner.

[Calz]

Wow - thank you for introducing me to Jay Weidner.


Jay Weidner has many outstanding interviews on Veritas, Red Ice, Zany and even Camelot radio (although the link didn't work last I checked).

He has a couple books and has put out many good dvds.


http://www.jayweidner.com/

[red_rose]

Thank you so much, I'm so excited!!!

[<8>]

I like this alot! Thanks soo much Calz..:)

[The One]

Going to watch it later matey looking forward to it

The thing is if we dont step outside the box we will never know.

[Calz]

Something I was looking for when I made the OP ... David Sereda on consciousness.

(1st 16 minutes deal with japan radiation which is important ... but if you want to go directly to the consciousness portion go 16 minutes into vid).



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLMzAVkkiU8

[Calz]

Gregg Braden



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXBnrLPVTVY&feature=related

[Calz]

Okay ... found a youtube version of Jay's interview with Zany (he had others as well):



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ40rQw4MxE&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLKxlc3Tbh8&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jdp9enFTGE&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei-d94nIh80&feature=related

[Calz]

For those interested in Weidner here is a Camelot radio interview:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeAX09XfG60&feature=player_embedded#at=13

[Calz]

So after 6 1/2 hours no one has anything to say about what *** if true *** would be some of the most amazing information released to the public in modern times.

Hmmmmmm.

[Carmody]

a considerable amount of the public does not know what it means.

Open the door to the barn, all the cows know what that means. They immediately stampede the door and run out.

Open the gate to the field ....and since they've never seen it done before...they don't even notice.

[christian]

I haven't look into it yet, I will tomorrow, it's late over here, but I can tell you from the headline it's not out of my box, Gaia as a living entity is known among so many cultures and the electric universe might have occured to some folks even before the times of Tesla, I figure. And even in times when there were no books, everyone who has his spidey senses on, can tell you that Gaia is indeed a living entity, you can even talk to her. And the air around us is not just emptyness but moldable, directable and harnessable energy. Very nice thread!

[Hervé]

Maybe it needed to be wrapped inside a waxy ball of doom & gloom before throwing it in, in order to obtain the expected result?

[greybeard]

So after 6 1/2 hours no one has anything to say about what *** if true *** would be some of the most amazing information released to the public in modern times.

Hmmmmmm.

I dont understand the subject fully so cant give an intelligent response but I do accept that it is valid.
Nassim Haramein is saying not dis similar.

Thanks for starting the thread,

Regards Chris

[red_rose]

lol - I'm still absorbing jay weidner vids!

[Teakai]

Electric universe. They do make a good case for it indeed.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/home.htm

I've watched this, too, Conk and it certailnly made a lot of sense. I was going to recommend it, but you beat me to it. Which is great because I was trying to remember what it was called and you saved me the effort of thinking too hard. :)

Edit to add: I couldn't get the entire documentary from you tube, but it's here for anyone interested.


http://vimeo.com/16256646

Link: http://vimeo.com/16256646

[christian]

Okay ... found a youtube version of Jay's interview with Zany

A fascinating potpourri of ideas all in all.

His dew / rainwater theory somehow resonates with me, when he says its charge is different than tap water. But saying collecting 150 gallons of dew, then boiling it until you got an ounce of white powder of super medicine is a bit odd. More strange is the fact that he never did the experiment and even more strange the reason for that, when he says "how can you be sure, that the dew never touches the ground (which would spoil the charge) through the entire process?". Just keep it off the ground, can't be that difficult, I think collecting 150 gallons and slowly boiling it all is more difficult than that, but maybe I got something wrong on that, so please correct me.

He didn't say, where he got that knowledge from, I was wondering about that, what is his take on that, does anybody know?

I want to look into the other material in this thread and offer some, too.
Walter Russell made a huge contribution to the nature of the electrical universe, more than half a century ago, although is main book about that is called "The Secret of Light". Light in this case can be seen as "electrical charge", I figure. This book bases on his later published and also to a large degree channeled book "The Divine Iliad". Both fascinating, just a marginal note: I figure the non-channeled stuff in the Iliad is quite odd, he badmouthes Jazz music of all things! :drum: The other stuff is highly insightful, his findings published in the Secret of Light enabled him for example to predict the existence of certain elements on the table of elements, because he re-explained among other things the elements through their light (~electricity) nature and discovered a pattern, the elements that were known are like spots on the pattern, but there were some missing, to make the pattern complete, empty spots, where there must be some element, yet they were not known at his time. That is what I recall from the top of my head, I gave the book away one day.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9owWje4NZqs

[Sloppyjoe]

I've always wanted to do alchemy but I really don't know where to start, it's all very confusing to me.

[nomadguy]

~ I think this is the tip of the iceberg.
It is my view that we humans, as a species are FAR FAR behind the curve. Especially when it comes to science and nature. And I mean nature in the universe or science~of all things and how things actually operate naturally. We have all been bamboozled into a linear way of thinking... THe effect are that we cannot conceive our true reality.
The "Electric Universe" info is EXTREMELY interesting and I think it is paramount that we gain more understanding ~in this time.
I find the theory that "the ancients", used this electric force intriguing. And I lean to the idea that the pyramids round the globe are connected with this force or were perhaps used to balance or control/alter this electrical force's effect on the planet. With that being a possibility, it is also very possible that being like them could be using this in space from some sort of craft or collection of space vehicles.
Some scientists have spoken out recently that we are moving into an unknown stellar cloud. We are probably in this stellar cloud already. So the time to catchup to our true reality is so so short. ~Time to buckle down and do the tough math. ~Look at the hard questions. ~Look at the complicated processes and listen to the subtle voices in nature.

The truth is all around and staring us in the face.

[Calz]

Using the electric universe model as a lense ... that would certainly add some new wrinkles to the debate on elenin (at least for those who had not considered it before).

[nomadguy]

Using the electric universe model as a lense ... that would certainly add some new wrinkles to the debate on elenin (at least for those who had not considered it before).

precisely, the "symbols of an alien sky" video series also produced by Wal Thornhill / David Talbott, shows how our predecessors recorded events about a celestial object that appeared from the heavens, and from their hypothesis it was to be Venus and that Venus came to this solar system as a huge comet. ~ and that it had been involved in a cosmic electrical event that may have carved the planets locally to what they are now. Mars shows this with its imbalance of mass from one hemisphere to the other and its odd deeply carved valleys.

The story of the celestial phoenix, the firebird ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu_AL1qDOcU

ref - http://dragonfengshui.blogspot.com/2007/12/celestial-phoenix.html

[Calz]

Have at it. Jay is putting in right out there for anyone interested enough to download a free book from an anonymous author.

*** adding ***

Just found out there was already another thread on the free book from several months ago:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18008-Philosophers-Stone-and-how-to-make-it-New-free-book



Step right up ... get your free Philosopher's Stone right here ...

The Golden Age Has Begun!

The Alchemical Revolution is Here!
And It's Free!

By Jay Weidner


The sign of Aquarius is that of a person with a vase of water. For it is in the Age of Aquarius that the secret of alchemy and the magic water of the Elixir of Life are made known to the entire human race. This single act topples the powers that rule the world and re-creates society and culture.

Imagine a world where people live to be 400 years old, where you complete your education in your 80's and you don't have children until you are over a hundred years old. Imagine a world where you do not need to eat very much or work at all. Imagine a world with endless amounts of time and resources where people live in peace and harmony.

It sounds wonderful doesn't it?

In cultures throughout the world there are myths, stories and legends which speak of a Golden Age of humanity when all of the above was actually occurring. The Bible speaks of men who live to be 600 years old and even older.

These myths also tell us about a strange and fascinating science called Alchemy. Alchemy was the sacred art of transmutation practiced in many cultures from China to India to Egypt and Tibet.

The alchemical lore speaks of men and women in the past who magically created an Elixir of Life that allowed them to live for hundreds of years. These alchemists also created a powerful substance they called the Philosopher's Stone which gave them long life, mental clarity and spiritual enlightenment.

As many of you know, I have been pursuing the truth behind alchemy for over 25 years. Like most of you, I began as a skeptic, questioning the validity of the stories I read about the Philosopher's Stone and Elixir of Life.

But in reading the ancient alchemical texts I was struck by the intelligence of those who authored the odd and inexplicable books. In every case they appeared to be highly educated people who had a low tolerance for nonsense. The realization that the adepts who wrote the ancient texts on alchemy were not fools inspired me to go on with my research.

Step by step, over the course of many years, I began to unlock the secrets of the Philosopher's Stone. As I delved deeper and deeper into the literature, I slowly began to realize that the extraordinary stories of the Elixir of Life and the Stone were true.

I am releasing a new documentary film this fall called The Alchemy Code, which delves into the lore of stone, the metaphysical nature of reality and many other secrets from the alchemical tradition including how to make the Stone and the Elixir.

It became clear to me that once upon a time in history all humans possessed the Stone and that it was intimately connected to the emergence of the fabled Golden Age. For once everyone had the Stone, there would be very little need for wars, greed, hunger or even death. When I discovered that the stone was easy and cheap to make I decided that it was time to bring forth this knowledge
As many people have lost their heads and more for releasing the information about how to create the Philosopher's Stone I was filled me with great trepidation.

Another factor that was, and is, causing me great concern is the Internet kill switch. It is apparent that the Internet is going to be completely controlled very soon so it was incumbent for me, or someone, to release the information covering the proper way to make the Philosopher's Stone. Theoretically as the knowledge spread through out the population of the Earth via the Internet the Golden Age would begin.

If the past is a guide to the present then the powers that be have never been in favor of the release of this information. Usually releasing the information on alchemy and the Philosopher's Stone is a good way to discover what it is like to be burned at the stake.

But luck is on all of our sides

Why do I say this?

Because a special someone has released a very well written book which contains a correct description of how to make the Philosopher's Stone and the Elixir of Life.

The anonymous author is absolutely correct in what he is saying based on my quarter century study of alchemy. But better than all of that is the fact that the anonymous author has decided - wisely - to give the book away for Free!

Yes you heard me. The secret of alchemy has been properly released on the Internet and it is free.

You can find the book here:

http://www.sacredmysteries.com/public/331.cfm

I read the entire book in 3 hours. It is very well written and researched. As many of you know, alchemical texts can be exceedingly obscure and almost impossible to comprehend. Yet in my opinion, this book is the easiest book to read and understand that I have ever encountered on the subject of alchemy. It clearly teaches the student the proper methods for creating the Philosopher's Stone. The total cost of all the equipment needed is less than $1000.00 and an enterprising person could do it for far cheaper.

From my perspective, this is the most important book ever written. "Anonymous" has given all of us a great gift. This treasure offers us the potential to transform not only our bodies and minds, but also transmute this current Age of Iron, this age of pain and deception, greed and terror into the Golden Age of truth, beauty harmony and bliss. Once everyone on Earth has the Stone we can become who we really are and free ourselves of the trap of the phantasm of modernity and the toxic threat that it has created.

Download the book now. Print it out in case the Internet kill switch is pushed. Better yet buy it on amazon and give the author some money in return for his gift. Send the link to your friends and family, even if they are skeptical of its claims. Once the secret is released the powers that be can do nothing to bottle it up again.

For those who want to hold rigid to the status quo, this is potentially the most dangerous book ever written. For it is true and the simple magic it reveals can change everything.

This is the golden dawning of the Age of Aquarius.


http://jayweidner.com/TheGoldenAgeHasBegun.html