Astrology as a "Know Yourself" tool

[TWINCANS]

here's the beginnings of an explanation on how astrology works.

Matter or the 3d universe is made up of dimensional planes that interact with one another. They interact in a cyclic wave-particle formation kind of way. Not exactly in balance, but slightly asymmetrical, so energy gets injected into this universe of 3d and linear directional time. Thus the inne and outie vortex, the spiraling Fibonacci sequences associated with everything on all levels. Thus the red of the past, red shift..and the blue shift, the color of future. And the combination of the two, the violet moment of the now. The balance point between the two.


The universe has an interference pattern that is fundamental in nature and is superluminal (faster than light, ie the same everywhere, no time). Time and space exist ACROSS structures or particles. It is enshrined within and calculated from their differentials from one another. Thus mass, gravity, volume, etc. Thus this thing in physics about wave particle duality. The primary forms are superluminal. Part of the evidence is that time does not exist in superconductors and they are acting as one single wave.


Regarding the birth misplacement, it was mine. I'm getting that I wasn't supposed to be the one called into this present birth. My brother was. So it's not mine, so to speak. He was meant to be that birth and I was to be his or thereabouts. There's too much fire energy for me in this birth position. There are complex past life relationships as well with this group.

Now as to explanation, we need to remember the process of incarnation. Usually there are prior agreements in place, and a general idea of when and where. Especially if there is a past life grouping, there can be more than one entity or spirit, however you want to call us, lined up ready to 'land'. In fact three months prior to conception, the connections begin to be made. The coupling act itself sends out an electromagnetic spark, or even better an explosion of sorts if the act is of a purer and higher frequency power, into quantum field. This is the time of attraction from the causal realms into the material realms for the incoming spirit. Those fields have been so aptly described by Carmody. Given the complexity of these overlapping dimensional fields, with also the variables of the relative power of the two individuals, their coupling energy produced, and the incoming spirit's frequency, it's easy to see that there are many hard 'landings'. This is particularly true in the case of spirits coming in to help the shift who have a higher frequency, and also very currently with so many brand new incarnations of higher spirits (ie crystal kids etc) some of whom have never incarnated in 3D before.

Astrology is IMO the basis for religion ie the rising sun is the Risen Son. There is nothing deeper in religion than the study of astrology. They are one and the same at their root but that truth has been hidden on purpose. Why give humans all the tools and keys when you can pocket those and charge rent.

[astrid]

Damm this thread is good.

I have now solved some major life mysteries,

you guys rock!

[Jayke]

if I were to consider you a problem, and I intended to harm you, and if I knew that tomorrow Mars up there in the sky would arrive at a spot from where he could form a right angle to your natal Saturn, and those exact coordiantes were known to me, I would know that you would be vulnerable on such a day, and use that moment of your weakness to launch an attack. This is how the combined knowledge of astrology and magic has been used against opponents, and this is why religious leaders want to keep this knowledge under wraps. It's like sending someone out to sea, knowing there is a storm coming, in the hope of getting rid of them. Of course the way the universe is set up, such an act brings with it severe karmic consequences, but evil people don't believe in karma, deluding themselves because some dark entity promised them protection. A purified person would never knowingly abuse this knowledge and be constantly vigilant against the temptation to do so.

Great thread, I find this stuff all really fascinating...I have a question:

If a purified person was to use this knowledge to enhance another persons enjoyment of life...say if a hypnotherapist timed their sessions to coincide with astrological alignments that strengthened a persons ability to make positive changes within themselves...what planets, houses and configurations would that hypnotherapist need to look out for in order to impact change with a more positive outcome in mind?

[ulli]

Regarding Twincans birth misplacement, and by the way, thank tou for sharing that....
I could now write a book with the superstring of thoughts that has come out of this revelation...
What Astrid mentioned there goes for me as well.
I read years ago that accidents somehow do happen in the higher realms.
But then again, I have seen accidents here in my 3 D life,
where papers got mixed up and a pattern I had designed and intended for a sweater
ended up on a dress instead and produced a best seller of all times for my company.
For those who don't know...I used to be in the rag trade, or fashion business, before astrology grabbed me by the neck.

So what I'm saying here, what might have had a certain intention and then an accident occured, leading you to even discover that there was such an accident, which in itself is in this 3 D realm an unusual thing, yet could have enormously beneficial consequences for the awakening process on this earth right now....
In fact, the human spirit being what it is, can turn copper to gold.
I was never really religious until I figured out astrology.
And I found astrology because I had an obsessive need for patterns, as had already been evident in my ten years as a knitwear designer.
The heavenly patterns connecting with the rhythms of individual lives, that for me was a lure which I found totally irrisistable. I gave up a fairly sizable income to go after that lure.

Now to what Twincans said about having too much fire in his chart. I always wished I had more fire in mine...
Ok, so my Ascendant is Leo, but as they say, the Ascendant is dominant until you are in your late twenties, then the sun sign kicks in. And that was spot on in my case, with my more serious Capricorn sun letting go the whole glamour show of the fashion world, and instead immersing myself into the idea of a future earth governmental system after the shift happened....that is where my real expertise lies, and I haven't even started that thread yet. It can wait.

So, Twincans, may I ask you, WHAT have you concluded from this discovery of yours?
Has it left you feeling permanently misplaced, emotionally damaged?
Because I' m pretty certain you can make this work in your favour, if you want.

Especially if you can team up with others who know you well and can complete your energies, or should I say, take away from them?
So, how about giving me some of your fire planets...I could do with them. I'm ready.
How odd, that this idea was put on my plate just as when fiery Mars was sitting on my natal Uranus...

Jeez...this is all very exciting...now I won't be able to sleep for the rest of the night.....

[ulli]

if I were to consider you a problem, and I intended to harm you, and if I knew that tomorrow Mars up there in the sky would arrive at a spot from where he could form a right angle to your natal Saturn, and those exact coordiantes were known to me, I would know that you would be vulnerable on such a day, and use that moment of your weakness to launch an attack. This is how the combined knowledge of astrology and magic has been used against opponents, and this is why religious leaders want to keep this knowledge under wraps. It's like sending someone out to sea, knowing there is a storm coming, in the hope of getting rid of them. Of course the way the universe is set up, such an act brings with it severe karmic consequences, but evil people don't believe in karma, deluding themselves because some dark entity promised them protection. A purified person would never knowingly abuse this knowledge and be constantly vigilant against the temptation to do so.

Great thread, I find this stuff all really fascinating...I have a question:

If a purified person was to use this knowledge to enhance another persons enjoyment of life...say if a hypnotherapist timed their sessions to coincide with astrological alignments that strengthened a persons ability to make positive changes within themselves...what planets, houses and configurations would that hypnotherapist need to look out for in order to impact change with a more positive outcome in mind?

Enjoyment is different for different people.
If someone wants to become free and independent, then any combo of Jupiter and Uranus should do it...except perhaps a right angle... perhaps that would make the change too disruptive for comfort.
Yet if someone's happiness depends on their family being getting more unified then the Moon needs to be looked at...
Moon in good relations to Venus, Jupiter and also Neptune.

[Jayke]

Food for thought, I guess I'd have to become a thorough expert in all this to truly apply it in a positive way...I'm starting to see a few patterns emerging from reading through everyones posts, are there any books you could recommend to help a newbie like me get started in it all...I filled out my chart details on astro.com but all the overlapping lines just made my head hurt lol it'd be great to know how to interpret all these things :)

[Calz]

Hmmmm ... somehow I sense a story here??? Stay tuned.

ulli:

Jeez...this is all very exciting...now I won't be able to sleep for the rest of the night.....

[ulli]

Food for thought, I guess I'd have to become a thorough expert in all this to truly apply it in a positive way...I'm starting to see a few patterns emerging from reading through everyones posts, are there any books you could recommend to help a newbie like me get started in it all...I filled out my chart details on astro.com but all the overlapping lines just made my head hurt lol it'd be great to know how to interpret all these things :)


Those overlapping lines confuse everyone at first, yet are simple if you know what they stand for.
The chart is a double circle divided into an outer wheel of twelve signs and an inner wheel of twelve houses.
The planets are sprinkled around, in their relative positions, the way they stood at birth.
Once that is set up, the red and blue lines are added later to indicate what specific angles exist between planets, just to make it easier to measure them, visually.
Say you have Mars in Taurus, and the sun 125 degrees away in Virgo...which counts as a "trine",
which is a harmonious angle, allowing Mars energies of strength to interact with the person's Virgo qualities of discernment and mental agility. The Taurus Mars would then add endurance, steadfastness and untiring determination and voila you have yourself an incredible work horse. Good to know if you are in human resources...I would give the job to such an applicant.
So the coloured lines indicate at a quick glance, how the planets interact inside the chart.
Red lines are drawn for squares and oppositions, also 45 degree angles.
All these indicate tensions. So you look at which planets are connected, then which sign are they in, then also look at their house positions...
Good excercise...once you learn to do this you become faster and faster. Then you will never ever be bored again, ;)

[Calz]

are there any books you could recommend to help a newbie like me get started in it all...

I am dated by about 20 years and many have been written in that time ... but for a one book starter I would suggest what my astro teacher suggested for me way back when:


http://www.amazon.com/Choice-Centered-Astrology-Gail-Fairfield/dp/1578630177/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1312111011&sr=1-1


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[Avocadess]

Here are the results from calculating my natal chart online:


Rising Sign is in 05 Degrees Libra

(remainder is edited out per suggestion -- thanks)

[ulli]

Here are the results from calculating my natal chart online:


Rising Sign is in 05 Degrees Libra
...snip


Once you have this data...by the way...for privacy protection sake you are advised to delete your post, or just leave the first line, the way I did just now.

Anyway, your Libra sun made a right angle to Uranus, so as well as reading books and articles on Libra you ought to also read about Aquarius...
due to that Uranus angle.
More later.

[blake]

Hello Ulli,

I agree that Astrology is a wonderful tool to gain greater understanding of yourself and others in your life. If you don't get a long with sibling, or parent, looking at their chart and how it relates to your own may help you be more understanding of the relationship, and help you adjust your reaction to the other person, thereby having a smoother and more comfortable relationship with that person.

My area of interest lies in how to read the energies of the planets, and how they are affecting the world at large. I don't have to spell out to you all the larger than life aspects that have been happening the last couple of years. I found the five full moon last winter, all at 29 degrees, quite ominious. However, now, it would seem that many of the larger than life aspects have faded, as if doing their duty of setting up the gears for change was completed, like the calm before the storm. Now the focus is mostly on the Pluto square Uranus, and that will be there for a while, seemingly just waiting for the match to be lit for the firworks to happen. Could the lunation of September 27 be that match? What do you think of all these very intense apsects of the past year or so and how do you see them manifesting this summer or early fall.

Sincerely,
Mr, Davis

[Ernie Nemeth]

Being a Piscean, I always look for the answers in esoteric studies.

What I have found for myself is that the planets and their aspects are symbols of some bigger reality. We are not what we think we are either. So we are only symbols as well. These symbols are representations of reality as we understand it - it is not reality itself. That is why there is a correlation between planets and people. Together, our symbols make a sort of sense, a semblance of reality. Each symbol relys on all the others for its meaning and so each affects the other.

But the age fast approaching is the age of truth. No symbol will stand in for its proxy. No mere semblance of reality will satisfy.

So this moment in time could be considered the tearing down of all symbols - the replacing of idols with true reality.

In realty we are all the same, with no limiting factors whatsoever. That is what we must all learn now.

[ulli]

Being a Piscean, I always look for the answers in esoteric studies.

What I have found for myself is that the planets and their aspects are symbols of some bigger reality. We are not what we think we are either. So we are only symbols as well. These symbols are representations of reality as we understand it - it is not reality itself. That is why there is a correlation between planets and people. Together, our symbols make a sort of sense, a semblance of reality. Each symbol relys on all the others for its meaning and so each affects the other.

But the age fast approaching is the age of truth. No symbol will stand in for its proxy. No mere semblance of reality will satisfy.

So this moment in time could be considered the tearing down of all symbols - the replacing of idols with true reality.

In realty we are all the same, with no limiting factors whatsoever. That is what we must all learn now.

What you say here truly sums up the Piscean perspective of the limitless ocean in which they reside.

Yet your last statement limits the unlimited...

If we all MUST learn something, how are you going to enforce this?

What happens to us if we don't cut it?

[Avocadess]

Ulli, that is SO COOL what you said about my "angle" with Aquarius -- because much of my life with my interest in astrology I always felt such a STRONG attraction to Aquarius and was sort of bummed that I didn't seem to have ANYTHING in it...!!! (smile)

[Ernie Nemeth]

Dear Ulli,

I meant "must" as in "if you want what's ultimately best for you".

We are all creators, no one can enforce anything on anyone without consent.

[ulli]

Hello Ulli,

I agree that Astrology is a wonderful tool to gain greater understanding of yourself and others in your life. If you don't get a long with sibling, or parent, looking at their chart and how it relates to your own may help you be more understanding of the relationship, and help you adjust your reaction to the other person, thereby having a smoother and more comfortable relationship with that person.

My area of interest lies in how to read the energies of the planets, and how they are affecting the world at large. I don't have to spell out to you all the larger than life aspects that have been happening the last couple of years. I found the five full moon last winter, all at 29 degrees, quite ominious. However, now, it would seem that many of the larger than life aspects have faded, as if doing their duty of setting up the gears for change was completed, like the calm before the storm. Now the focus is mostly on the Pluto square Uranus, and that will be there for a while, seemingly just waiting for the match to be lit for the firworks to happen. Could the lunation of September 27 be that match? What do you think of all these very intense apsects of the past year or so and how do you see them manifesting this summer or early fall.

Sincerely,
Mr, Davis

I agree with you 100%, and all those thoughts have occured to me as well...including the sense of calm before the storm.
But whose storm will it be? There will always be safe zones.
And astrology can be used as a tool to analyze the collective.
After getting an idea of your own being, and also learning how to manage relationships in family groups with better understanding,
it is time to see the bigger picture out there. So thanks for bringing this up.

Uranus/Aries square aside, Pluto in Capricorn alone brings system change and structure change, everything that has been instituted for millenia will fall, finally, although that process had already begun when monarchies fell when Pluto entered Cancer in 1914 (WW1) then dictatorships crumbling when pluto entered Leo in 1939...(WW2) each time decimating huge chunks of established securities.
But now Pluto is going for the jugular, aiming at the financial institutions (Capricorn) which it entered in the autumn of 2008.
By the time Pluto is finished transiting the sign of Capricorn there will be no more tax payer bail outs...
the people's revolution (Uranus in Aries) will have combined with the higher Capricorn energies which are about law and order,
justice and fairness and a new fairer system will have been instituted...I am confident this will happen.

Corruption will no longer be an option in that future world, the way it has been in the past,
thanks to Uranus fiery transit through Aries, purging the dross, exposing the corrupt.

The coming square between the two planets this year and next year will continue the process that began in 2008,
except with each crash there will be no more bail-outs as the current taxation burden will bring about a the world revolution
and this in turn will force the PTB, or rather the PTW, to back off....they know full well that once the people have had enough
it's time to go into hiding. They fear the public's wrath. No virus wants to kill it's host completely.

I used to be quite pessimistic about what would happen to people living in the cities,
but right now, having seen so much evidence of city community formation,
roof top agriculture, grassroots movements, I think the fall-out of the coming changes
will be far worse for the ultra rich than for the ultra poor.
They may have killed the middle class but can't kill the middle class person,
and that person has always been and will always be, the salt of the earth.

[ulli]

Dear Ulli,

I meant "must" as in "if you want what's ultimately best for you".

We are all creators, no one can enforce anything on anyone without consent.

Forgive me for misunderstanding...
I carry past baggage, having been raised in post-war provincial Germany,
so when I hear words like "must" and "should" - without fail I see red.

[Anno]

Being a Piscean [...] we are all the same [...]

I'm going off this whole 'we are one' idea. I know that ultimately we are all one and everything is an iteration of an avatar etc, but in our reality we are far from all being the same. I'm questioning how useful it is to have a top down view when we're halfway from bottom. The illusions of separation are very real and well established down here so perhaps we should start celebrating the differences and seeing what they can teach us rather than denying them in the name of being spiritual? Astrology seems to be designed for doing just that.

[TWINCANS]

Regarding Twincans birth misplacement, and by the way, thank tou for sharing that....
I could now write a book with the superstring of thoughts that has come out of this revelation...
...
So what I'm saying here, what might have had a certain intention and then an accident occured, leading you to even discover that there was such an accident, which in itself is in this 3 D realm an unusual thing, yet could have enormously beneficial consequences for the awakening process on this earth right now....
In fact, the human spirit being what it is, can turn copper to gold.
I was never really religious until I figured out astrology.
And I found astrology because I had an obsessive need for patterns, as had already been evident in my ten years as a knitwear designer.
The heavenly patterns connecting with the rhythms of individual lives, that for me was a lure which I found totally irrisistable. I gave up a fairly sizable income to go after that lure.

Now to what Twincans said about having too much fire in his chart. I always wished I had more fire in mine...
Ok, so my Ascendant is Leo, but as they say, the Ascendant is dominant until you are in your late twenties, then the sun sign kicks in. And that was spot on in my case, with my more serious Capricorn sun letting go the whole glamour show of the fashion world, and instead immersing myself into the idea of a future earth governmental system after the shift happened....that is where my real expertise lies, and I haven't even started that thread yet. It can wait.

So, Twincans, may I ask you, WHAT have you concluded from this discovery of yours?
Has it left you feeling permanently misplaced, emotionally damaged?
Because I' m pretty certain you can make this work in your favour, if you want.

Especially if you can team up with others who know you well and can complete your energies, or should I say, take away from them?
So, how about giving me some of your fire planets...I could do with them. I'm ready.
How odd, that this idea was put on my plate just as when fiery Mars was sitting on my natal Uranus...

Jeez...this is all very exciting...now I won't be able to sleep for the rest of the night.....

Thanks ulli, for all you are doing here.
BTW I'm a her.
My other half is the Twin of Twin Cans. He's definitely a he.

I have always found that the unfolding of awareness, and that includes the understanding of who one is, happens at a rate that one can handle. So no, this understanding has not left me in any trauma. Although I would have liked the Gemini sun to detach me a bit. The Aries one i have is way too embroiled.

It actually has been part of a process that began (years ago but let's not get into that right now) last November with the departure from the earthplane of a close family member. It has to do with remembering the past life connection, and understanding why I would take on such a past life. (FYI the reason had to do with a desire to reconstruct a really past life in Atlantis.) It was a royal lifetime, and during the French Revolution.

The misplacement in this life was because of the spark not being right at conception. But there's a complication that I just got last night after I posted and that is that I was holding anger about a 'misplacement' that I was forced to take in that past life that didn't allow me to do what I planned to do (and why I took on that life in the first place) and changed history.

Really did. Closest sister also lost her head which didn't have to happen as I was intended for that marriage. But then could I have done anything about it? Probably not, just as I couldn't in Atlantis either. breathe breathe, acceptance, acceptance.

Ain't things complicated? But such fun. I'm still integrating as we go, can't you tell?

Oh, forgot one other thing. You're right about hooking up with another to help the situation. But it was planned before this incarnation - and that was to merge with my Twin Flame. As they say, that's another story.

I have sent you both my and hubby's birthcharts. If you can add, I'd be so grateful.

[ulli]

Being a Piscean [...] we are all the same [...]

I'm going off this whole 'we are one' idea. I know that ultimately we are all one and everything is an iteration of an avatar etc, but in our reality we are far from all being the same. I'm questioning how useful it is to have a top down view when we're halfway from bottom. The illusions of separation are very real and well established down here so perhaps we should start celebrating the differences and seeing what they can teach us rather than denying them in the name of being spiritual? Astrology seems to be designed for doing just that.

While it seems paradoxical to say this, but dependent on which level one is coming from
both statements are probably true.
In fact, I would go as far as saying that some people (Aquarians) are so identified with their uniqueness
that a small dose of this oneness paradigm does them good...
equally Pisceans may have come to this dimension to learn to let go of their wishywashy
oneness compulsion (sometimes) as when applied at the wrong moment can lead to confusion and chaos,
for themselves and others.
The question has to be asked: "is it timely?"
Aiming for higher consciousness can then free one from planetary molds.

Interesting also that some of these opposite effects lie in neighboring signs,
ie, the optimistic Sagittarius becomes pessimistic Capricorn,
the constructive Capricorn system maker becomes rebellious Aquarian revolutianary, destroyer of systems.

[ulli]

Here is your reading, Purple Lama
Many, many aspects in your charts.
Ascendant and sun in Gemini...overall good communication skills and mental brilliance,
even though other aspects show blockages at times,
as far as communication goes.
You have a Venus Jupiter conjunction in Cancer, in the first house...
so people's first impression of you is that of a soft, nurturing, emotional,
and tender person,
yet there is also a square to an emotional Aries moon, as well as Pluto in Libra...
forcing you to use your Gemini skills to back off before becoming too possessive, or even smothering.

The Aries moon really demands to be heard, yet is severely repressed by an opposition from Pluto
this indicates early childhood discipline, possibly from mum,
and this causes stresses in adulthood if not properly cleared...
I sympathize, as I have a similar blend...your opposition may not be as bad
as my Pluto Moon square, and hence mother relationship.

Yet with so many angles from and to Pluto you have probably seen to it
that you went onto the spiritual path early in life,
seeking God and meaning as the only way you could make sense of so much absurdity
as an ill-aspected Pluto can dish out.

Then there is the Mars Saturn conjunction, in Leo...sometimes this indicates rough treatment
from authority figures in childhood- this could have been a PE teacher, or older cousins,
but definitely a number of oppressive ego-bashing events
would have caused you much suffering, leaving emotional scars.
Some overcompensate for this by becoming total jerks, while others are stoic and thus find the path to enlightenment.

Your best angles are trines from Venus and Jupiter to your Uranus,
as well as the sun trining your Pluto...the first making sure that bad relationships
can be restored through openness and maybe surprise interventions from higher dimensions,
and the sun-Pluto trine gives you access to incredible inner reserves.

Saturn square Mercury could have meant problems with verbal self expressions,
which were overcome, either with extra tuition, or with time, going the slow road,
or just your Gemini faculties to figure things out by yourself..
The fact that you are here at Avalon and making great contributions shows me yet again that even a chart full of adverse angles
can become a springboard for the soul's awakening and replacing ego at a relatively early age.
I congratulate you.

P.S. I nearly forgot...and I must thank Astrid for this who just recently pointed this out ...
the sun in the 12th house signifies an absent father...would you mind confirming or refuting this, please?

[PurpleLama]

wow. ****ing wow. I know that got starred out, so freaking wow.
I will give more feedback when the dust settles, but to start:

Mom went blind when I was two, so my childhood entailed a lot of being the "seeing eye kid" and Dad committed suicide when I was 16 just six months after my first child was born. I didn't have another until last year.

Again, WOW.

Ulli, thank you from the bottom of my heart. You are substantially correct on every singly point. I've had a plethora of psychic reading of various kinds, but never a reading from a competent (replace that with brilliant) astrologer. Everyone I am friends with is an amateur astrologer, myself included, but none of us possess this level of interpretation. My hat is off to you (my wizards hat, that is).
Thanks, again. You made my day. Now to read your reading ten more times.

*************
I do alternately suffer from both foot in mouth disease and what my daughter refers to as "word vomit."

I do tend to wear my heart out on my sleeve. Anyone more than 15 years older than myself tends to think I am twelve, in other words I have this young and innocent look about me that is accurate in some ways, but in other ways nothing could be further from the truth. Still, it makes any female over the age of 60 want to take me home and feed me. And some younger ones as well. This is absolutely not a complaint. I love to eat and my wife can attest.

Mom and I went through a tough time after Dad died, she wanted to have me be a teen, I thought I was grown way beyond the normal teenaged mindset. To sumarize, there was a life insurance issue that resulted in a lawsuit between me and her, and a separation for three more years. I actually had legal guardians for 17-18 who facilitated the lawsuit and the ensuing separation.


I didn't give myself a choice about the spiritual path. I was on of many who had visitations, or abduction experiences, growing up. I've not let that one fly yet here on Avalon, but there you go. I never once had a negative experience and in my whole life I have never had a really bad dream. Well, in my adult life, specifically since joining Avalon, I have had a few "negative greetings" but I am well adapted to handling these. I won't say more on that specific point on the public forum. But, suffice it to say, from an early age I had a burning desire to understand just what the hell is really going on, so your reading is absolutely dead on.

I have patience way beyond normal, to the point of driving co-workers insane. Professionally, I am a picture framer, and I can help you decide between the imperceptibly different shades of white matboard even if it takes hours, for examply. You don't want to be in line behind a wishy washy person at my counter.

The patience also gets me far in spiritual/magical pursuits. God gives me what I want just to shut me the hell up. Before someone thinks this is ego based, let me clarify that my magic is *white* and if you don't really understand what that means please don't criticize. Like someone I appreciate on avalon thinking timeline shifting is an ego trip when nothing could be further from the truth. The ego doesn't participate in the procedure, only in the result, and usually only in that capacity to say holy **** there is no way I did THAT. Love to you if you guess that I'm talking about you. :)

thanks again, Ulli. You absolutely, completely rock.

[Carmody]

Karma and lessons. 'Round and 'Round we go.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DZaXFpq1b8

[dan33]

Hi Ulli!
Thanks for the thread. I know something.. a litttle bit on astrology. I remember "Esoteric Astrology" by Alan Leo.
I will be happy you "read" me , if you do not have too much work. :)


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Holographic Sound
Argentine physiologist Hugo Zuccarelli, inspired by the holographic brain model Pribram, has recently developed a new recording technique that creates the equivalent of a hologram, but sound instead of light.

Based their technique on a curious fact: the human ear speakers. Realizing that these sounds, which occur naturally, were the aural equivalent to the "reference laser" used to recreate a holographic image, used as the basis for a new recording technique that reproduces sounds revolutionary more realistic three-dimensional still sounds produced by the stereo process.

Zuccarelli called "sound holophonic" to this new kind of sound.
Recently a London Times reporter, after hearing recordings of Zuccarelli holophonic wrote:

"I looked to sneak reassuring numbers on my watch to make sure where I was. People approached me from behind, where I knew there was nothing but the wall ... After seven minutes had the impression of seeing figures, embodiments of the voices on the tape. Sound creates an "image" multidimensional. "

As Zuccarelli technique is based on holographic way the brain processes sound, apparently confuses the ear with the same success with the light holograms deceive the eye.



Therefore, when listeners hear a recording of someone walking in front of them, often move their feet or shake their heads when they hear what seems a match too close to the face (some people said that even smelled the match).

The extraordinary thing is that holophonic recordings, which have nothing to do with conventional stereo sound, keep a strange three-dimensional character even when heard only by a single handset. Holographic principles involved in the process also appear to be the explanation that a deaf ear to locate the sound source without moving the head.


Several important musicians such as Paul McCartney, Peter Gabriel, Vangelis, have turned to Zuccarelli interested in their recording system, but has yet to reveal the information needed to fully understand the art, the patent issues.

[ulli]

Since Carmody opened tonight's session with music I'm going to follow suit.
But first let's look at this amazing artist's chart

Grace Jones
Born: May 19, 1948, 12:00 PM (unknown)
in: Spanishtown (Jamaica)
Sun: 28°36' Taurus
Moon: 16°49' Libra
Dominants: Gemini, Libra, Sagittarius
Jupiter, Mercury, Moon
Air, Fire / Mutable



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMCKj6LDZ2U&feature=related

[ulli]

I think we are being moved by strings here...

while Dan posted the article about an Argentinian called Zuccarelli
I was busy posting a song by another Argentinian by the name of Piazolla.

And without knowing that such weirdness was going on.
What's more, the title of the song was STRANGE... I've seen that face before.

Truly strange, indeed.

@ Carmody:
thanks for introducing me to Noir & Haze...I'm hooked.

[PurpleLama]

I've had a crash course in karma and lessons, thanks carmody.

Are you (or anyone) familiar with Dr. John?

Playdoh of Ataraxas recently turned me on to Dr. John, playing his song Black John the Conquerer, not realizing that I've been carrying John de Conker, a root, in my little medicine bag for months.

Anyway Dr. John is some kind of funky occult blues. Really great. Maybe I can convince Playdoh to find the song and post it here.

[ulli]

Dr. John, born November 21st, 1940
I love his music, crazy voice...I had one of his albums in the seventies...
great favourite of mine, together with J. J. Cale and Leon Russell
Here he is at Glastonbury 2010


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaWHjwRVPrc

[dan33]

I think we are being moved by strings here...

while Dan posted the article about an Argentinian called Zuccarelli
I was busy posting a song by another Argentinian by the name of Piazolla.

And without knowing that such weirdness was going on.
What's more, the title of the song was STRANGE... I've seen that face before.

Truly strange, indeed.

@ Carmody:
thanks for introducing me to Noir & Haze...I'm hooked.

Synchronicities... :)

A way to fix the attention.
Another synchronization. just check my single thread (for months that do not look). One of the replays was from Carmody. I was about to send a message to him/her. I was moved to see one of the first messages I received on landing at Avalon.

Carmody the "interdimensional civil servant" said "I know this well enough that I have the original 'promotional' version of the soundtrack"

Thanks Ulli and Carmody :)

[ulli]

I think we are being moved by strings here...

while Dan posted the article about an Argentinian called Zuccarelli
I was busy posting a song by another Argentinian by the name of Piazolla.

And without knowing that such weirdness was going on.
What's more, the title of the song was STRANGE... I've seen that face before.

Truly strange, indeed.

@ Carmody:
thanks for introducing me to Noir & Haze...I'm hooked.

Synchronicities... :)

A way to fix the attention.
Another synchronization. just check my single thread (for months that do not look). One of the replays was Carmody. I was about to send a message. I was moved to see one of the first messages I received on landing at Avalon.

Carmody the "interdimensional civil servant" said "I know this well enough that I have the original 'promotional' version of the soundtrack"

Thanks Ulli and Carmody :)

I saw this, and also your last post in the thread...which was Inception in real time...
after looking at it my head is still spinning...

[Ernie Nemeth]

Ahhh, I've been relagated to the woo-woos? or whatever it is called. You must be joking...

Anno:
but in our reality we are far from all being the same
Are you sure? We all have two arms, two legs and a head. We all want to be loved and respected. We all want to be safe and comfortable. We all want to go to heaven when we die. We all want to be treated fairly and not have to live in fear. We all want to belong.

But I don't want a label stuck on me, especially one attributed to a group with negative intentions towards Avalon.

Sorry, touched a nerve, couldn't sleep.

Did not mean to break the flow. Will post no more here.

[PurpleLama]

I am a proud Woowoo! Don't let it getcha down!

[ulli]

Ahhh, I've been relagated to the woo-woos? or whatever it is called. You must be joking...

Anno:
but in our reality we are far from all being the same
Are you sure? We all have two arms, two legs and a head. We all want to be loved and respected. We all want to be safe and comfortable. We all want to go to heaven when we die. We all want to be treated fairly and not have to live in fear. We all want to belong.

But I don't want a label stuck on me, especially one attributed to a group with negative intentions towards Avalon.

Sorry, touched a nerve, couldn't sleep.

Did not mean to break the flow. Will post no more here.


All types are needed, and those who can tap into the great oneness bring us the arts and healing and many other heavenly blessings.
Where would humanity be without Pisceans? Where would humanity be without the Neptunian gift of imagination?

One of the great things about astrology, it is never personal,
it deals with the shifting influences of the planets and stars without attacking someone's inner being,
nor even their egos.

So where there is no personal offense intended then every sensitive Piscean needs to learn not to let his fertile imagination carry him into injured feelings.

If I had been nearer to you in 3 D last night I would have spanked you and sent you to bed with a warm drink.

Not worth losing sleep over this, Ernie. I will send healing to that nerve that got touched.

There, there!
We are one here, ok???

[wegge]

ulli, do you think the time of death could also give some indications for future lifes?
Don´t know if that´s useful in any way but just occured to me after reading of Brian O´Learys death.

[ulli]

ulli, do you think the time of death could also give some indications for future lifes?
Don´t know if that´s useful in any way but just occured to me after reading of Brian O´Learys death.

I understand your thinking, and especially after someone like Brian O'Leary leaving this world
one would love to know more about where would he be now...
Personally I would hope that he is freed from the reincarnation trap.
When a soul is fully realized they have sovereignty, in other words, no one tells them any more where to go or what to do.

At any given moment he is free to explore the infinite universe, perhaps now he even has the ability to be in several places at once, and inspiring loved ones with his spirit presence even more than when he was still incarnate.

Right now I don't even know where my next vacations will be, let alone when will I die.

With universal energies vibrating faster and faster how can anyone know these things?
What tomorrow brings depends on the decisions I make today.
Making those decisions based on my limited factual knowledge is hard enough.

Studying astrology means yes, you CAN live in a safer mode, not be as exposed to accidents like many others
but you also learn that the more you learn the less you know.

So when it comes to speculating about future lives is like giving a Kindergarten child a book on nuclear physics .
Everything in it's own time.
These things are important to contemplate, only to find that absolute answers like the one you seek
can never be grasped by the mind.

Our minds can't even conceive it's own brain tissue decomposing,
or one's own bones lying in a horizontal position for the rest of eternity...

When I start toying with concepts far out of my reach I see it as a sign that some other priority in my life is being neglected.
Something right under my nose...a hungry cat, maybe...or a messy closet?
Thanks for reminding me...

[dan33]

I think we are being moved by strings here...

while Dan posted the article about an Argentinian called Zuccarelli
I was busy posting a song by another Argentinian by the name of Piazolla.

And without knowing that such weirdness was going on.
What's more, the title of the song was STRANGE... I've seen that face before.

Truly strange, indeed.

@ Carmody:
thanks for introducing me to Noir & Haze...I'm hooked.

Synchronicities... :)

A way to fix the attention.
Another synchronization. just check my single thread (for months that do not look). One of the replays was Carmody. I was about to send a message. I was moved to see one of the first messages I received on landing at Avalon.

Carmody the "interdimensional civil servant" said "I know this well enough that I have the original 'promotional' version of the soundtrack"

Thanks Ulli and Carmody :)

I saw this, and also your last post in the thread...which was Inception in real time...
after looking at it my head is still spinning...

A painstaking editing....Christopher Nolan is a genious.
Born:

July 30, 1970, 12:00 PM (unknown)

in:

London (United Kingdom)

Sun:

6°52' Léo
Moon:
6°01' Cancer
Dominants:
Leo, Cancer, Libra
Moon, Sun, Saturn
Fire, Water / Fixed

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Ulli, What do you think about "The Planets" by Gustav Holst?

dxEekUy0Ehk


Saludos and thank you all!

[TWINCANS]

ulli, do you think the time of death could also give some indications for future lifes?
Don´t know if that´s useful in any way but just occured to me after reading of Brian O´Learys death.

Ulli, I don't know if you've ever run across this idea, but I'm pretty sure it's true (due to the fact i used i to locate an individual on ancestry who was the past life in 1940's uk for a friend who has almost total recall of the death circumstances.)

The proposition is that the sun sign one dies in is the sun sign for the next reincarnation. I don't know about the whole chart, but it probably shows the new challenge(s) for that new life.

[ulli]

ulli, do you think the time of death could also give some indications for future lifes?
Don´t know if that´s useful in any way but just occured to me after reading of Brian O´Learys death.

Ulli, I don't know if you've ever run across this idea, but I'm pretty sure it's true (due to the fact i used i to locate an individual on ancestry who was the past life in 1940's uk for a friend who has almost total recall of the death circumstances.)

The proposition is that the sun sign one dies in is the sun sign for the next reincarnation. I don't know about the whole chart, but it probably shows the new challenge(s) for that new life.

While I go along with the idea of past lives I refuse REFUSE to buy into the idea that reincarnation must continue...

Like focusing on not passing the exam at the end of college, and being trapped there forever, repeating classes.

[TWINCANS]

ulli, do you think the time of death could also give some indications for future lifes?
Don´t know if that´s useful in any way but just occured to me after reading of Brian O´Learys death.

Ulli, I don't know if you've ever run across this idea, but I'm pretty sure it's true (due to the fact i used i to locate an individual on ancestry who was the past life in 1940's uk for a friend who has almost total recall of the death circumstances.)

The proposition is that the sun sign one dies in is the sun sign for the next reincarnation. I don't know about the whole chart, but it probably shows the new challenge(s) for that new life.

While I go along with the idea of past lives I refuse REFUSE to buy into the idea that reincarnation must continue...

Like focusing on not passing the exam at the end of college, and being trapped there forever, repeating classes.

Every spirit is unique and so there are no hard and fast rules like the reincarnation MUST happen. Sorry if I seemed to indicate reincarnation as an eventuality.
I thought that the question was whether the chart could indicate anything about a person's next reincarnation, one that the individual could choose or not depending on their own path of course.

[ulli]

ulli, do you think the time of death could also give some indications for future lifes?
Don´t know if that´s useful in any way but just occured to me after reading of Brian O´Learys death.

Ulli, I don't know if you've ever run across this idea, but I'm pretty sure it's true (due to the fact i used i to locate an individual on ancestry who was the past life in 1940's uk for a friend who has almost total recall of the death circumstances.)

The proposition is that the sun sign one dies in is the sun sign for the next reincarnation. I don't know about the whole chart, but it probably shows the new challenge(s) for that new life.

While I go along with the idea of past lives I refuse REFUSE to buy into the idea that reincarnation must continue...

Like focusing on not passing the exam at the end of college, and being trapped there forever, repeating classes.

Every spirit is unique and so there are no hard and fast rules like the reincarnation MUST happen. Sorry if I seemed to indicate reincarnation as an eventuality.
I thought that the question was whether the chart could indicate anything about a person's next reincarnation, one that the individual could choose or not depending on their own path of course.

To be honest, I haven't given it any thought.
I am more interested in a practical, therapeutic approach that gives a person fresh tools with which to
stir their lives towards greater sovereignty, and with infinite other worlds out there
to choose from who would want to come back here?

I honestly can't imagine this, going through that whole birth process, babyhood, infancy again.
I'm a grandmother now and I can see these little souls suffering-
confined in an awkward physical body, limited in expression,
when all they want to do is fly around the way they did before they were born.

What I find interesting is the highest populations are in countries where reincarnation is part of their belief system
like India and China, even though they made it clear that the aim is to be freed from it.
yet indoctrination is so strong that souls think of nothing else than to return as soon as they get a chance.

I hardly ever meet anyone that shares my ideas on this matter.
People either believe in reincarnation, or they don't.

My belief is that reincarnation is an option , one I would not want if you paid me a million dollars.

[Calz]

Couple of other threads have some interesting conversation along these lines ... most recent:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?26572-What-is-the-White-Light-we-see-when-we-die

Roman also has a good one going.

[TWINCANS]

My belief is that reincarnation is an option , one I would not want if you paid me a million dollars.

Yes, quite a few souls are finishing their cycle on the earthplane in this epoch. They all sound just like you - get me off now!

[Carmody]

My belief is that reincarnation is an option , one I would not want if you paid me a million dollars.

Yes, quite a few souls are finishing their cycle on the earthplane in this epoch. They all sound just like you - get me off now!

Yes, I did a lot of OBE stuff in the early 2000's. Basically every night. No more than 1.5 hours of sleep (missing time) a night.

The one thing a being tends to carry away from all that kind of exploring and flitting about, is that the relief from the body's issues, both emotionally and physically is a relief that is - beyond words.

Also the idea of mental expression, how clean, how fast, how perfect, in comparison to the expression of that of the flesh. Some of it comes through, if one is recalling (At least in my case) and it does indeed raise the intellectual capacity to one degree or another.


Oh yes, if under psychic attack in this place, here.

I found when in astral form, that I avoided water like the plague. For example, if an open toilet lid showed the water, I'd shy away from that. A form of almost instinctual response.

Thus: If you think you really are under psychic attack, jump into the shower. Let the water run over your head and down your body. If the headache or similar issues goes away immediately, it may be a psychic attack. The problem is, regarding discernment... if it was allergies, the same can happen.

[Carmody]

It seems as if...We're gathering steam again. We're getting somewhere.

What will the next attempt on the forum look like?

[Anno]

[...]Thus: If you think you really are under psychic attack, jump into the shower. Let the water run over your head and down your body. If the headache or similar issues goes away immediately, it may be a psychic attack. The problem is, regarding discernment... if it was allergies, the same can happen.

The allergy comment cracked me up. Why do you think the water works this way? Water protects us in the womb, perhaps that is related?


It seems as if...We're gathering steam again. We're getting somewhere.

What will the next attempt on the forum look like?

I doubt anyone is going to try for a while. Whilst I'm not convinced it is truly over I do think that with all the effort that went in to it, it still failed. That will send a message and act as an example for other Forums when it becomes their turn. Hopefully members on the already corrupt forums might get some hope that if they call the bull**** when they see it without attacking eachother when they disagree, then all attacks will fail. It is when groups are drawn away from harmony that they become vulnerable. See my sig for further details.

Edit: PS: What I actually came here to say lol... ...do we have a Tarot version of Ulli?

[Carmody]

The allergy comment cracked me up. Why do you think the water works this way? Water protects us in the womb, perhaps that is related?


Water is a disorganized quantum fluid with very high mass. This is disruptive to the energy patterns that an 'organized energy pattern' being or astral body requires, in order to 'be', or connect with another being. Now add high levels of water flow, chaotic flow. As you would get in a rapids on a river, or a river on it's own. Or in this case, in the shower.

As an astral shape, I've been stuck in objects before, like walls or rocks, etc. Not a good place to be. Flowing Water would be 1000x worse. Dense like rock, but no stable organization. Totally chaotic. It would be, in my estimation, exceedingly difficult to hold a link through chaotically flowing water.

I've tested this. It seems to work.

[TWINCANS]

The allergy comment cracked me up. Why do you think the water works this way? Water protects us in the womb, perhaps that is related?


Water is a disorganized quantum fluid with very high mass. This is disruptive to the energy patterns that an 'organized energy pattern' being or astral body requires, in order to 'be', or connect with another being. Now add high levels of water flow, chaotic flow. As you would get in a rapids on a river, or a river on it's own. Or in this case, in the shower.

As an astral shape, I've been stuck in objects before, like walls or rocks, etc. Not a good place to be. Flowing Water would be 1000x worse. Dense like rock, but no stable organization. Totally chaotic. It would be, in my estimation, exceedingly difficult to hold a link through chaotically flowing water.

I've tested this. It seems to work.

This is another synchronisity. This afternoon we did a wee meditation/journey on the debt ceiling debate/takeover and one of us found himself walking with the pres. He was directed to flood the area. This is obviously meant to be in the etheric, not the physical. Flooding brings things to the surface, it cleanses, it confuses the energy flow in play, it smothers the intellect (air element), it contains emotion etc. etc.

Now you bring up water, after saying that we are gathering steam (water heated) and getting somewhere again.

[ulli]

Not suggesting that anyone should avoid taking a shower
but would not the greatest protection be simply to be morally clean?
Incorruptible and in full control of one's faculties?
And what about the fact that our body is 70% water?
Still, I'm definitely going to test this theory, checking how I feel before entering and after leaving the shower.
I know for a fact that being in the ocean the weekend before last cleansed me spiritually,
I felt reborn.

[Anno]

Not suggesting that anyone should avoid taking a shower[...]

Certain among us claim that the Repto's hate the smell of humans so not showering is one of the most effective defences. =/

[Patrish]

On the physical side, when you enter a shower you are being bombarded with chemicals. Chlorine, maybe fluoride and lots of other gunk - pharmacueticals and the like. I wonder if this has an effect on the spirit. Fluoride is supposed to do bad stuff to the pineal gland.
Natural cleansing like waterfalls and oceans give off negative ions which have a positive effect on us. It reminds me that we are part of something immeasurable. Dipping my toe in the sea always makes me smile - even in winter! But it has been said before that I am indeed, a bit odd :-)

[Nate]

TMI?

At least the planet Pluto is happy.

How am I looking, ulli? Challenges? I've found that my Saturn in Virgo is very pronounced since it is in the house of Gemini (I am a Gemini) and is sextile to Mercury (rules Gemini AND Virgo). This, in addition to me having Mars in Taurus makes me one stubborn perfectionist SOB at times, which may be why you often see the "Last edited by Nate" tag at the bottom of my posts .

♂+♀=☼

☺

I'd love to hear feedback from ulli and others.

http://i.imgur.com/AsN1u.gif

[PurpleLama]

It seems as if...We're gathering steam again. We're getting somewhere.

What will the next attempt on the forum look like?


it's going on already, methinks.

I've no aversion to showering, but for protection I prefer to fire up the red, black, and white like my hoodoo friends taught me, and for something extra nasty special messing around with me and mine I will grind up some dragons blood with some sea salt and ashes from the altar to fog up the house, and it's also great for sprinkling on the doorways and window sills. There are many methods of using the "fiery wall of protection" in addition to this, should the smoke and lines prove ineffective. Then there is all the selenite crystals that make it very easy to fill the "spaces" with "light" so that whatever gets run off won't have a place to slip back in. I've one really good ace up my sleeve that unfailingly helps me, as well. For about ten days or so leading up to this past saturday there was a huge pressure in the reality, thankfully it's eased up since then....

[ulli]

Not suggesting that anyone should avoid taking a shower[...]

Certain among us claim that the Repto's hate the smell of humans so not showering is one of the most effective defences. =/

Especially after eating garlic, hehe...

[ulli]

On the physical side, when you enter a shower you are being bombarded with chemicals. Chlorine, maybe fluoride and lots of other gunk - pharmacueticals and the like. I wonder if this has an effect on the spirit. Fluoride is supposed to do bad stuff to the pineal gland.
Natural cleansing like waterfalls and oceans give off negative ions which have a positive effect on us. It reminds me that we are part of something immeasurable. Dipping my toe in the sea always makes me smile - even in winter! But it has been said before that I am indeed, a bit odd :-)

Hi there, Patrish. Your turn for a reading today...you've not been around much...
Give me a few more hours, though...got other stuff to do, first.

[ulli]

TMI?

At least the planet Pluto is happy.

How am I looking, ulli? Challenges? I've found that my Saturn in Virgo is very pronounced since it is in the house of Gemini (I am a Gemini) and is sextile to Mercury (rules Gemini AND Virgo). This, in addition to me having Mars in Taurus makes me one stubborn perfectionist SOB at times, which may be why you often see the "Last edited by Nate" tag at the bottom of my posts .

♂+♀=☼

☺

I'd love to hear feedback from ulli and others.

http://i.imgur.com/AsN1u.gif

Thanks, Nate, for posting your chart right here...makes life so much easier for me.
But to be fair to those on that long list who have been waiting
I shall have to ignore you until it's your turn.
I can do three on a good day, so give me about a week.

Just one quick comment: your Taurus Mars may not be as stubborn as you think.
Look at the opposition from Uranus (saboteur, therefore often called "yer anus")
So before your Taurus bull can finish the job your Scorpio Uranus has stung it up the behind. Knowing this, you can now make changes, and direct things how YOU want them to go.

[ulli]

It seems as if...We're gathering steam again. We're getting somewhere.

What will the next attempt on the forum look like?


it's going on already, methinks.

I've no aversion to showering, but for protection I prefer to fire up the red, black, and white like my hoodoo friends taught me, and for something extra nasty special messing around with me and mine I will grind up some dragons blood with some sea salt and ashes from the altar to fog up the house, and it's also great for sprinkling on the doorways and window sills. There are many methods of using the "fiery wall of protection" in addition to this, should the smoke and lines prove ineffective. Then there is all the selenite crystals that make it very easy to fill the "spaces" with "light" so that whatever gets run off won't have a place to slip back in. I've one really good ace up my sleeve that unfailingly helps me, as well. For about ten days or so leading up to this past saturday there was a huge pressure in the reality, thankfully it's eased up since then....


All your hoodoo friends are welcome, as are woowoos, and even the voodoo crowd...
The only ones who will be moderated are booroo crats

Haven't quite got a handle on them yet.

[Avocadess]

Patrish -- I'm with you! I have only taken actual baths or showers for years now at an average of once every couple months because the town I live in adds both chlorine and fluoride (and I refused to take that anymore!) The saving grace for me is the local springs! In fact I recently started going to the springs every morning to start the day with a swim in untreated negative-ion-filled spring water, woo-woo! On my way there in a few min in fact. (Usually I would have left over an hour ago but had a rush job I had to finish first!) When I get there before 8 am I can get in free -- and that helps me get back home in time for my work day, so that works out well...! Oceans, rivers, waterfalls and springs RULE...!

Wishing you all the best day EVER...!

[Ernie Nemeth]

Showering is one of my top three favorite things, along with sleeping.

Never thought of showering as cleansing negative energies.

Thanks for slap, Ulli. Great attitude adjuster, I always say.

[ulli]

Showering is one of my top three favorite things, along with sleeping.

Never thought of showering as cleansing negative energies.

Thanks for slap, Ulli. Great attitude adjuster, I always say.

All fishies love water...don't need it for cleansing.

As far as the slap is concerned...there's more where that came from.

But I wouldn't dream of being abusive, not even if you begged me.

But parents of Pisces children, please be advised that a loving yet FIRM hand
will bring out the best in your little fishy.

Did I mention where there is a party you will find Pisceans,
they make it heaven, because party life reminds them of heaven.
Everyone is so friendly...the nearest thing to oneness.

So, Ernie, what is your favorite song?

[ulli]

Reading for Patrish

You have Ascendant Gemini, unless there was daylight savings time where you were born, which I was unable to verify.
That, combined with your Aries sun in the 11th makes me suspect that you are an active person in your community, a leader, even.

On the whole a well-balanced chart, showing placements of a gentle soul despite the fact that your sun is in a fire sign.
The Libra moon tames your impulses, you are courageous, but also diplomatic.
The issues I see are mainly to do with health and children...maybe you dreamt of having them, but could not,
or at best, they have turned out very spiritual...with Neptune in the 5th, conjunct your moon..in Libra..
Very artistic...I see flowers....arrangements....also writing or drawing.
You use your hands a lot...
Love of nature with that Taurus moon in the 12th, escape to sacred places.
Financially secure, yet with Uranus there as well, there can be sudden upsets, but always quick recovery.
Your Venus is in Pisces, you are self sacrificing and giving, and want to do so in a world changing way. (Venus at the MC)
Saturn in Scorpio can bring health issues, reproduction problems, which is an added factor to Neptune in the 5th.
Currently I see no bad transits, and since you have hardly any hard aspects on the whole a smooth journey.

If I'm off in a big way it's because I am currently hampered by Saturn squaring my natal Jupiter, so please excuse...my vision
no workie well right now.

[ulli]

I can't believe I found this..after nine years.
Posted by a brilliant astrologer whose handle was spinwwweaver, we were members of the same yahoogroup,
and someone asked her what was positive about Neptune/Pisces/12th House

I never forgot her wonderful answer, here it is:

Neptune is Divine inspiration, absolute bliss, uncanny intuition,
psychic sensitivity, the Music of the Spheres, the still point that 'is
the dancing' (T.S. Eliot), angelic presence, a myriad of splendid
colours, masterful illusion, the fine arts, elegant grace, feathers and
fluff, Unconditional Love, Universal Oneness, stage magic, costumery and
cosmetology, speaking in tongues, water colours, impressionistic
painting, mystic and mystique, exquisite beauty, eternal youth, undying
devotion, endless compassion, generous selflessness, volunteer service,
ascendant spirituality, the Crown Chakra, Soul Mates, pure innocence and
Kwan Yin --- to name a few."

[Star]

Thanks so much for that post Ulli. For most of my life I have not found my sun/neptune/mercury conjunction useful in the world I find myself in and I would sell my cancer moon in a hearbeat, but I will print that statement out and not be so hard on myself....

Love & Gratitude,
Star

[ulli]

Thanks so much for that post Ulli. For most of my life I have not found my sun/neptune/mercury conjunction useful in the world I find myself in and I would sell my cancer moon in a hearbeat, but I will print that statement out and not be so hard on myself....

Love & Gratitude,
Star

Each sign has positive and negative traits, as well as wonderful and awful people.
It is up to each of us to balance our self-image, so that we know where we stand at a given time
and from there proceed with our lives, as creatively as we possibly can.
If one were to take away just one sign, the world would collapse.

Without Aries there would be no novelty, nor discoveries.
Without Taurus there would be no romance, no delicious meals, no music.
Without Gemini there would be no enthusiasm, sharing of knowledge, city lights.
Without Cancer there would be no resorts, no Viennese pastries, no massage spas.
Without Leo there would be no festivals, no home decorating, no quality clothing.
Without Virgo there would be total mess and endless pandemics.
Without Libra there would be constant wars and fisticuffs, and no art galleries.
Without Scorpio there would be no life on earth, period.
Without Sagittarius there would be no cars nor airplanes.
Without Capricorn there would be anarchy, no infrastructure, no comedy.
Without Aquarius we would still be living in the caves, making fire with a flint stone.
And Pisces is already up there.

Anyone feel free to add to this list.

[dan33]

Edit:[/B] PS: What I actually came here to say lol... ...do we have a Tarot version of Ulli?

I did some Tarot readings here on the forum. So, Yes. :)

[astrid]

The allergy comment cracked me up. Why do you think the water works this way? Water protects us in the womb, perhaps that is related?


Water is a disorganized quantum fluid with very high mass. This is disruptive to the energy patterns that an 'organized energy pattern' being or astral body requires, in order to 'be', or connect with another being. Now add high levels of water flow, chaotic flow. As you would get in a rapids on a river, or a river on it's own. Or in this case, in the shower.

Works for me anyway.


As an astral shape, I've been stuck in objects before, like walls or rocks, etc. Not a good place to be. Flowing Water would be 1000x worse. Dense like rock, but no stable organization. Totally chaotic. It would be, in my estimation, exceedingly difficult to hold a link through chaotically flowing water.

I've tested this. It seems to work.

Water is the best for this, its the first thing i tell people to do if they think they are under attack,
even if they have been around too many other people and are feeling overwhelmed, water is the best remedy to clean
other energies that are not your own out of your field.

Even too much time online, i find that simply washing your hands and forearms, from finger tips to elbows, under cool running water makes a huge difference.

Personally i take it up a notch and take salt water baths, especially if i'm doing divination work, i only get the clearest messages from the highest sources that way.

Salt is something else the lower astrals really dislike , its common practice after clearing houses to seal the entrances and boundaries with lines of salt,

Also I have a lot of water in my chart , so i guess this makes sense that i have an affinity to it.

[ulli]

Yes, I do love salt baths as well, and topped with bicarbonate of soda which is great for maintaing PH balance.
Astrid, I do believe we already have formed an interdimensional bond...
as just before I discovered that you had posted here I was thinking of you and wondering if I should ask you to share that article about the 12th house...
The 12th house is equal in strength to the Pisces-Neptune factor I was talking about earlier, and should have included
in my post above...in fact I will go and edit it in right now.

[astrid]

Yes have been thinking the same thing.

We also have quite a few parallels,
i used to work in the rag trade also.

An in depth chat on the 12th house would be cool, it does get rather a bad wrap,
i think its a very misunderstood house , myself.....

[astrid]

Oh and,,,, we have just hit a Mercury Retro phase again too.
From the 2nd to the 26th, if i have my dates right.

[ulli]

Astrid
Yes there are people who still practise old time astrology and have not kept up with the needs and uplifted consciousness of the times...
and who are using outdated terms like "house of self-undoing" which doesn't help anyone.
Practising modern astrology meant fine-tuning terms like intuition and inspiration and psychic flash, each one representing a particular sign/house/planet.
Example:
Intuition is Aquarius/11th house/Uranus
Inspiration is Pisces/12th house/Neptune
Psychic ability is Scorpio/8th house/Pluto
Gut instinct is Aries/1st house/Mars
Logic is Capricorn/10th house/ Saturn
Sensing is Cancer/4th house/Moon
Analysis is Virgo/6th house/Mercury
Magnetizing is Libra/7th house/Venus
Mental processing is Gemini/3rd house/Mercury
Search and find is Sagittarius/9th house/Jupiter
Faith is Leo/5th house/Sun
Patience is Taurus/2nd house/Venus

[ulli]

Oh and,,,, we have just hit a Mercury Retro phase again too.
From the 2nd to the 26th, if i have my dates right.

I love Mercury retrograde periods...finding them relaxing.
I never understood what people found so upsetting about them...

but as Robert Heinlein wrote- "One man's religion is another man's belly laugh."

[Calz]

Oh and,,,, we have just hit a Mercury Retro phase again too.
From the 2nd to the 26th, if i have my dates right.

I love Mercury retrograde periods...finding them relaxing.
I never understood what people found so upsetting about them...

but as Robert Heinlein wrote- "One man's religion is another man's belly laugh."

That's cuz it cuts down on people asking for readings :haha:

[ulli]

Oh and,,,, we have just hit a Mercury Retro phase again too.
From the 2nd to the 26th, if i have my dates right.

I love Mercury retrograde periods...finding them relaxing.
I never understood what people found so upsetting about them...

but as Robert Heinlein wrote- "One man's religion is another man's belly laugh."

That's cuz it cuts down on people asking for readings :haha:

You are too funny, Calz!
They fear they are going to get a crappy one...and rightly so.

[Ernie Nemeth]

For me, the piscean life has been very fulfilling but not very easy in this world. Having known almost all my life that this society is going down the wrong track - and being ostricized for saying so - has left me isolated and alone. But yes, I can party and love it more than anything.

My favorite song changes. Most recently it is Rise Again, by Alterbridge (aka Creed minus lead singer). Of all time? I guess Black Sabbath: War Pigs.

[Calz]

For me, the piscean life has been very fulfilling but not very easy in this world. Having known almost all my life that this society is going down the wrong track - and being ostricized for saying so - has left me isolated and alone. But yes, I can party and love it more than anything.

My favorite song changes. Most recently it is Rise Again, by Alterbridge (aka Creed minus lead singer). Of all time? I guess Black Sabbath: War Pigs.

Happy you stuck around to hang with the woo woo crowd.

A good bunch actually :)

Every sign has advantages and lessons (and we have 10 planets + points to spread between them). I do think that most all here at avalon can share in feeling isolated when trying to alert others to what seems obvious but apparently oblivious to many.

You are not alone here ... you are among friends. :grouphug:

I did a little partying back in the day ... in honor of a tune shared by others:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbxfe7DMxVo

[Carmody]

Believe it or not, I was groovin' to War Pigs when I was..6.5 years old.

My Uncle had one of the first year 'Mach 1' Ford cars. Brand new. I'd sit in it when he visited --and play. Driving the big fast car. Vroom Vroom!

I saw the 8 track tape sticking out of the play deck..and I pushed it in. Lo and behold this sound came out of it.....

[PurpleLama]

*puts in war pigs, takes hair down and proceeds to head-bang until his neck hurts "singing" along*

*ahem*

sorry 'bout that.

[ulli]

Gosh, you are all babies here...I was into Led Zep and to this day I believe Jimmy Page is beyond compare.
May have something to do with the fact that we share the same birthday.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODidAgdL40Y&feature=related

[Patrish]

Reading for Patrish

You have Ascendant Gemini, unless there was daylight savings time where you were born, which I was unable to verify.
That, combined with your Aries sun in the 11th makes me suspect that you are an active person in your community, a leader, even.

On the whole a well-balanced chart, showing placements of a gentle soul despite the fact that your sun is in a fire sign.
The Libra moon tames your impulses, you are courageous, but also diplomatic.
The issues I see are mainly to do with health and children...maybe you dreamt of having them, but could not,
or at best, they have turned out very spiritual...with Neptune in the 5th, conjunct your moon..in Libra..
Very artistic...I see flowers....arrangements....also writing or drawing.
You use your hands a lot...
Love of nature with that Taurus moon in the 12th, escape to sacred places.
Financially secure, yet with Uranus there as well, there can be sudden upsets, but always quick recovery.
Your Venus is in Pisces, you are self sacrificing and giving, and want to do so in a world changing way. (Venus at the MC)
Saturn in Scorpio can bring health issues, reproduction problems, which is an added factor to Neptune in the 5th.
Currently I see no bad transits, and since you have hardly any hard aspects on the whole a smooth journey.

If I'm off in a big way it's because I am currently hampered by Saturn squaring my natal Jupiter, so please excuse...my vision
no workie well right now.

Many thanks for your reading - I never dreamt of having children and had 5! One of them is a medium. i often say I dont have an artistic body bone in my body - but I love freesias - flowers
i use my hands alot because I roll my own cigs and I love baking .
Glad to know about the smooth journey. many thanks xxx

[Curt]

Hi Ulli,

I sent you my birth information in a private message. I look forward to seeing what you come up with. I've been told I've got a ludicrous amount of Scorpio in my chart. Let's see...

[ulli]

Reading for Patrish

.

Many thanks for your reading - I never dreamt of having children and had 5! One of them is a medium. i often say I dont have an artistic body bone in my body - but I love freesias - flowers
i use my hands alot because I roll my own cigs and I love baking .
Glad to know about the smooth journey. many thanks xxx

So your art was expressed in creating children...this is where it is so tricky to get the Neptune interpretation right.

So many people with Neptune in the 5th never had any....or worse, lost a child, as Neptune is not of this world.

Neptune is also the planet of sacrifice...so that would be one way of seeing this placing correctly.
Moon, (motherhood), next to Neptune, (sacrifice) in the 5th house (children.
I have Venus in the 5th, and people thought I would have a daughter.
But my son is an artist, and Venus rules the arts.

Good example of how tough interpretation is, especially during a retro Mercury.

[modwiz]

Gosh, you are all babies here...I was into Led Zep and to this day I believe Jimmy Page is beyond compare.
May have something to do with the fact that we share the same birthday.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODidAgdL40Y&feature=related

I agree with you about Jimmy. "grandma". :peep:

Thanks for the video, lots of good links after listening.

[ulli]

Modwiz: The thing that makes being a grandma bearable is having actual grandchildren and better still, speculating about their birth charts.
Which for strollogers is as good as it is for those musicians talking about riffs.


Just reminding some of you youngsters here what Jimmy Page was doing in 1957:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0tAOIQiz-8&feature=fvwrel

[ulli]

[QUOTE=ulli;276416]Gosh, you are all babies here...I was into Led Zep and to this day I believe Jimmy Page is beyond compare.
May have something to do with the fact that we share the same birthday.

I agree with you about Jimmy. "grandma". :peep:

Thanks for the video, lots of good links after listening.

Grandmas like classical music too:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZXG0fNUUXs&NR=1

[astrid]

MAN... my mood hit a real dive around sunrise my time yesterday,
I'm trying to work out which transit is the culprit, i'm guessing it's a lunar one.

Also lots of frenetic type energy, but not much of it is useable, feels more
collective actually.

[modwiz]

Modwiz: The thing that makes being a grandma bearable is having actual grandchildren and better still, speculating about their birth charts.
Which for strollogers is as good as it is for those musicians talking about riffs.


Just reminding some of you youngsters here what Jimmy Page was doing in 1957:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0tAOIQiz-8&feature=fvwrel

This video is a gem and even more precious. Thanks again, Ulli.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Ulli,

I thought Saturn was the planet of suffering, well trials and tribulations - that's the key planet in my chart. Neptune is intangibles, other worldly, mystical, incomprehemsible - if I remember right.

Thanks for the tune, Calz. Rock on Purple Lama! (almost said stairway to heaven or funeral for a friend by Elton John)

[ulli]

Ulli,

I thought Saturn was the planet of suffering, well trials and tribulations - that's the key planet in my chart. Neptune is intangibles, other worldly, mystical, incomprehemsible - if I remember right.

Thanks for the tune, Calz. Rock on Purple Lama! (almost said stairway to heaven or funeral for a friend by Elton John)

Saturn is about restriction and discipline and this causes suffering in a person that wants their own way.

Saturn is also associated with winter, with strict grandfathers (not grandmothers, nudge, nudge...they are moon creatures)

But those limiting conditions, when they come to an inevitable end, are the precurser of fresh energies.

Saturn is the cork on the wine bottle, behind which wine can mature.

When one learns to see things in terms of their wholeness context, then even bad events reveal seeds of goodness.

Everything must pass. When Saturn, Old Father Time, says, now it's time, then he shows his true warmth,

and delights in being fair and just.

Saturn is the grumpy old bloke that no one likes, nor speaks to,

yet find out after he has gone that he was the secret benefactor

that funded the poorest kids education, and no one but a few knew about it.

[ulli]

MAN... my mood hit a real dive around sunrise my time yesterday,
I'm trying to work out which transit is the culprit, i'm guessing it's a lunar one.

Also lots of frenetic type energy, but not much of it is useable, feels more
collective actually.

Yesterday Saturn was at 149:58 angle from your natal Saturn...youn can round that one up to 150 degrees exactly.
A 150 angle is called a quincunx, and it gives a short, sharp jab. With Saturn you always feel like you've had a dozen wet blankets thrown on you.

Then there was another biggie: Uranus exactly opposite your sun 180 sharp.
This is no monthly little moon mood, this is heavy load...two very opposite energies, hitting on the same day.
I will send extra energy your way...lots of soothing, calming energy.
Uranus is about shocks, rebellion, resistance...Saturn...well.
I was just talking about Saturn in my previous post.

[astrid]

Wow.... okies, im holding more steady today, yesterday i was really feeling disorientated, thrown off course.
I spend some time in the garden and got some sun which helped a lot to ground me.

I'm feeling more hermit than usual too, i think i need all of my energy for me right now.
Rebellion, yes, i have that whole census issue here to deal with, and i'm standing pretty firm against this.
I was even thinking yesterday that i would go to jail rather than fill out this form,
typical Uranus.

I was listening to a basic astrology course yesterday on mp3, by Robert Hand,
although it was hardly basic, 70% of it went over my head.
He did offer an interesting point though about aspects.
He said that its a good exercise to work out the order of your aspects as they happened, in time.
And that the first ones will be more of an issue, being left over from past lifes, etc..
I thought this an interesting idea, so i took to trying to figure out mine.

So i set to pouring over Ephemeris tables and i have located all of mine down to a few.
Some are proving illusive, i wish there was a search function on these charts

So far my Saturn opp Pluto is the earlier forming aspect i have found.
If that's the oldest then it explains a lot.

[Calz]

Gosh, you are all babies here...I was into Led Zep and to this day I believe Jimmy Page is beyond compare.
May have something to do with the fact that we share the same birthday.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODidAgdL40Y&feature=related

Ahem ... :baby::attention:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25825-Best-song-...-yes-this-has-been-done-before.&highlight=best+song

[ulli]

Gosh, you are all babies here...I was into Led Zep and to this day I believe Jimmy Page is beyond compare.
May have something to do with the fact that we share the same birthday.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODidAgdL40Y&feature=related

Ahem ... :baby::attention:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25825-Best-song-...-yes-this-has-been-done-before.&highlight=best+song

Interesting Calz. I did one of my best knitwear collections listening to that song. And now you gotta be bringing back all them memories.
I once went to a party given in his honour, in some caves in South London. I was invited by a journalist friend of mine, Nick Kent, star writer for the NME, (New Musical Express) and he introduced me to him. That was in 1974. Nick was going out with Chrissie Hyndes then who was working for Malcolm McLaren at his shop...all these people were good friends... that was just before she formed the Pretenders.
Malcolm launched his band the Sex Pistols in 1975...that night of the Jimmy page party he came running after me as I was leaving the place at 3 am... could I give his boys a lift into town...those boys were little pimply teens...not quite Sex Pistols at all, at least not yet...jumping up and down in the back of my Alpha and urging me to drive faster and faster.
Then I met Jimy again as we were boarding a flight to the south of France...his wife was wearing one of my dresses on the plane...I nearly fainted I was so proud that I wasn't justr a nobody asking for an autograph. Aaanyway...he was like a God.

[ulli]

Back to work.
Maybe some beginners may find the article below helpful.

ASTROLOGY

Understanding Chart Movement
By Bill Herbst
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Bill Herbst has been a professional full-time astrologer for over 30 years and has written books on the topic. Bill provides astrological services for individuals and groups in person or by phone in addition to publishing a free newsletter that gives fascinating information on the subject of astology and the significance of its planetary transits.
Jan 18, 2006

Published with the kind permission of Bill Herbst

When people begin to study astrology, their first efforts usually revolve around memorizing the meanings of the various symbolic elements — planets, signs, houses, and aspects. That’s fine so far as it goes, but learning all the separate pieces doesn’t prepare students to understand what a chart is and how it moves.  Charts seem to be static, but they’re not. They’re just stop-action. Everything is actually in motion. Understanding those motions is a great help in knowing how to read the map.

 
To that end, a visual metaphor may come in handy.
 
Imagine that you’re in a helicopter about 2,000 feet above the ground. Next, imagine that you can look down directly beneath you to see a circular railroad track. This track is divided into twelve different sections. It might help to visualize the ground inside the track as if it were a pie, where we’ve cut the pie
into twelve slices.
 
On the track is a train. This train has twelve cars in all — the engine, ten Pullman cars, and the caboose — and the length of the train just happens to be exactly the same as the length of the track, so that the front of the engine touches the rear of the caboose.
 
UNDERSTANDING CHART MOVEMENT
 
Track = Houses
The track is like the houses with their twelve numbered sections. This circular section of track doesn’t move, of course. It just sits there, fixed in the ground. In much the same way, the houses appear to be fixed in the chart. The 1st house is always on the left (or east,) the 7th always on the right (or west); the 10th is directly overhead, and the 4th directly underfoot.
 
Each pie-shaped section inside the track represents one house. If we wanted to get fancy, we could imagine various coordinated color schemes to represent the qualities of each house or section of track. For instance, we could use reds for the 1st, 5th, and 9th houses, green for the 2nd, 6th, and 10th, yellow for the 3rd, 7th, and 11th, and blue for the 4th, 8th, and 12th. Or we could use different colors to blend the elemental quality with the modal or axis relationship — pastels might work. But it’s your visualization, so hire your own imaginary painters and do it up however you wish.  For now, just imagine that the track has twelve sections.
 
 
Train = Zodiac and its Signs
The train of twelve cars represents the zodiac, with its twelve signs. The engine represents the sign Aries while the caboose is the sign Pisces. The train moves continuously around the track, but very slowly. Our train is just a “local” — once each day it makes one round trip, a complete circuit of the track.
 
This is what happens in the heavens from our vantage point; as the Earth turns on its axis, we here on the Earth’s surface have the experience of remaining stationary, and we perceive the heavens around us turning one complete cycle in a 24-hour period. That’s why the sun appears to “rise” and “set.” Some idiot critics have accused astrology of not knowing the “objective” motions of the solar system, implying that we don’t understand that the earth revolves around the sun. Well, that’s just silly. Of course we understand. That’s not the point.
 
The issue is one of perspective. No one speaks of “earthrise” or “earthset.” We talk in terms of our own subjective experience — sunrise and sunset. For the most part, natal astrology is a human-centered discipline. We attempt to symbolically understand the cosmos through the lens of an individual life, so we use that person’s unique perspective. Duh. In fairness, astrology does offer heliocentric charts, for those who want to see things from the viewpoint of the Sun. But that’s another story entirely.
 
From our viewpoint, the zodiac train makes one trip around the house track every day. As a general rule, each car (sign) takes roughly two hours to travel over a certain section of track (house), although that varies because the train doesn’t move at a constant speed, instead fluctuating through gradual accelerations and decelerations. So imagine the train speeding up a little then slowing down again as it makes its daily circuit around the track. [For the technically-minded, this is referred to in astrology as “signs of long and short ascension,” but for now, just think of the train moving once each day around the track.]
 
So far so good. Next we’ll add the planets, and this is where the metaphor gets interesting.
 
 
Passengers = Planets
The planets are like passengers on the train. How many passengers are aboard? Traditional astrology uses ten bodies (the Sun and Moon, called “lights,” and the eight major planets). Since the 1970s, science has identified literally thousands of other bodies in the solar system, so astrologers now have the option of adding many other symbolic passengers to the train — asteroids, comets, etc. Some astrologers’ charts are littered with passengers, while other astrologers prefer to stick to only the major bodies. I personally use eleven celestial bodies in my chart — the ten standard ones plus another called Chiron.
 
However many passengers we use, they’re all moving gradually through the train, very slowly changing seats, passing through one car until they run out of seats and have to move to the next car. They move backwards through the train, from the engine toward the caboose, and then round again — in a direction
opposite to the train’s movement over the track.
 
In other words, the train moves over the track once each day in a clockwise direction as the passengers move much more slowly through the cars of the train counterclockwise. All the passengers move through the train, from one car to the next, at different speeds. In fact, they travel through the cars at vastly different speeds.
 
For instance, the Moon, the fastest-moving body, is the astrological equivalent of a little kid with ants in his pants who can’t sit still and bounces from one seat to the next, changing cars about every two and a half days, or every two and a half “trips” the train makes around the track. To get through all twelve cars of the whole train takes the Moon one month, or roughly 28 trips. [That’s what a “month” is — the length of one passage of our Moon around the heavens.)
 
At the other end of the speed scale, Pluto is like an old man who can barely walk. He takes two steps and has to rest seemingly forever. Currently, it takes Pluto about 13 years just to move from one car to another. That means it will take him nearly 5,000 complete daily trips of the train just to get out of one car and into the next. And that’s fast for Pluto. He stays in some cars as long as 22 years. All told, to make even a single passage through the twelve cars of the entire train takes him more than 90,000 trips.  Since Mr. Pluto is very, very slow, it’s a big deal when he changes train cars (signs). Pluto moved into the “car” called Sagittarius in 1995, and he won’t make it into the next car, Capricorn, until 2008.
 
 
Relationships = Aspects
Since the passengers move through the train at different speeds, they often pass one another. Sometimes they sit in adjacent seats in the same car, and sometimes they can look out the window and see another passenger moving through the opposite car all the way on the other side of the circular track. The relationships of the individual passengers to one another as they move through the cars represent the geometrical or angular relationships planets form with each other as they move through the zodiac. These relationships are called aspects, and they highlight the changing energetic connections of one planet to another.
 
No wonder charts are complicated.
 
Now, imagine all this motion happening together. Everything is constantly moving, shifting, changing relationship to everything else. At any given moment, a certain passenger is in a certain car of the train, which is moving over a certain section of track, and the passengers as a group form a kaleidoscopic pattern; sometimes they’re all together, sometimes they’re spread out, sometimes they all occupy one half the train, leaving the other half empty. The variations are endless, and they never repeat exactly.
 
 
Take a Snapshot
If we took a photograph from our helicopter, freezing the various motions, stopping the action like a slice out of time, then we would have a picture of the train, the track, the passengers, and their relationships to one another. Signs, houses, planets, and aspects.
 
Erecting a natal chart by hand with ephemerides and tables of houses is like developing that photo in a darkroom, which is how most astrologers worked decades ago. We had to laboriously calculate the exact positions within all the various motions. Now, however, we use computers to erect charts, which are the
equivalent to digital cameras — instant snapshot.
 
That’s essentially what a horoscope is — a picture of all these complex celestial motions and their interrelationships, frozen at an instant in time, as seen from a specific point of view in space.  In natal astrology, our point of view is that of an individual human being taking life’s first breath, establishing both bodily independence and the life-rhythm of prana. When we look at a natal chart with all those arcane symbols dotted around the circle, all those colored lines drawn inside the circle between the symbols, what we’re seeing is an accurate diagram of the different celestial motions as they were configured from that particular infant’s vantage point at birth. We’re looking at a mandala of that individual’s view of the solar system, his or her unique perspective on the cosmos. And we seek to understand the symbolic meanings of that time-space moment.
 
Learning the various movements is simple but essential. If you understand what you’re really seeing when you look at a natal chart, whether it’s your own or someone else’s, then you’ll have a tremendous head start toward using astrology with reverence as well as savvy.
 
© 2004, by Bill Herbst, all rights reserved.
 
Bill Herbst resides in Minneapolis, Minnesota. To schedule a personal session, send an email to bill@billherbst.com
 
Subscriptions to receive The Herbst Newsletter monthly via email are free and can be requested by sending an email to: newsletter@billherbst.com or go to Bill’s website at www.billherbst.com and sign up there.
 

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[Jayke]

It must have been one strong calling to give up a shoulder rubbing celebrity lifestyle in the fashion world and moving away from all that to delve deeper into studying the esoteric arts Ulli...how did you end up stepping away from that lifestyle and start building your living by becoming an astrologer?

also, on a more techical note...I managed to get a hold of a copy of the book Calz recommended 'choice centred astrology' by Gail Fairfield and she mentions about allowing an 8 degree orb for conjunctions and it got me wondering what happens when 2 planets are within a close enough orb range to be classed as a conjunction yet the degrees between them puts them in different signs...

For example if the Moon was at the edge of Taurus then 4 degrees away in Aries we have a Mercury/Venus conjunction.

how does a conjunction across signs affect the interplay of energies between all the aspects involved?

[ulli]

It must have been one strong calling to give up a shoulder rubbing celebrity lifestyle in the fashion world and moving away from all that to delve deeper into studying the esoteric arts Ulli...how did you end up stepping away from that lifestyle and start building your living by becoming an astrologer?

It was easy, I had help from above, when I had a download about how the universe was made according to a perfectly ordered system.
Call it enlightenment.

But it took five more years before I had wound down my operation, didn't want to let go the staff unless they had secure new jobs, didn't want to declare bankrupcy and made sure I had no debts. Also that's when I decided that no bank was ever going to benefit from me again, and have not owned a credit card since 1982, I could already then see how the debt society would end up.
I now use my husband's card and only for booking flights.
There were also more and more strange coincidences, or synchronicities, like finding books in weird places, in answer to some questions I had just asked myself earlier.
I became known as the person with the weird coincidences. But I also lost a lot of credibility as I kept talking about God all of a sudden.
Then came my Gurdjieff period, Krishnamurti, Yogananda, endless astrology books,
and as I was getting my spiritual education a rift between the older crowd and myself grew...
I felt different from these people who only worried about their status and money and fame and image.
I once was invited to go to the Dorchester Hotel and do the charts for James Mason, the actor, and Diana Rigg, and Sylvia Miles, an entire crew of an Agatha Christie movie. And I meditated on it and decided NO!!! I knew I would get sucked into the Hollywood trap, and it would cost me my soul. So I declined.
So by sending that message to the universe I changed my timeline, even though my materialistic self was still quite strong and very tempted to go down that road.

But when there is a fork in our road, we had better think about our long-term consequences, right up to where it will lead our souls.
And after that decision things speeded up, the universe received my mesage, and all in the same week we got an offer on the two shop leases and our Westminster apartment, which had been on the market for ages...and we paid off what we owed the bank and packed our goodies into a container and moved to Barbados.
So my earlier dream of retiring at age 32 came true, although it wasn't much of a retirement, what with all those new challenges that came later.

It was the university of hard knocks, no mistake about it, even the glamour years.

The fashion scene is very cut-throat at the top, and I knew I wanted to survive without the semi-criminal financial backers who were prowling around, wanting to go legal with their affairs, and who were offering me "all the money in the world", securing my bank account, etc...
but they also were breathing down the necks of some of the brilliant designers I knew, and so I was warned.
So I did it witout huge capital injections, just bank loans...which meant no massive publicity, no million dollar fashion shows.
There were some crazy up and down periods businesswise, theft from staff, in other words the SHTF at various moments that made life unbeararble.
Then came the biggest clincher of all: I had a baby and found myself miserable to leave him at home with the nanny, while his screams echoed down the Westminster streets as I was driving to work.
Also having opened two shops, I had expanded too much, one in Covent Garden and another in Beauchamp Place, high rents areas.
Then I also began to get bored around many of those celebrity friends as they became more addicted to their lifestyles than expressing their talents, and the whole gourmet restaurant scene lost it's lure as I was hungry for spiritual food.
Well, you asked, and I answered.

[ulli]

Jayke

good question about the conjunction across the two sign zones...I thought about it a lot, and while doing that, as well as looking at evidence in the charts I encountered I came across a theory of my own, namely that all conjunctions are stronger in their influence than the sign the planet is in.
So the interaction between closely conjunct planets blends the personality most stongly, then comes the planet that sits a few degrees away, but still in orb range, and finally the sign. This is where interpretation is really difficult, and I rely on my intuition at that point.
A Mars Saturn conjunction is always very strong in influencing a person, then one must consider if Mars was in high energy sign, like fire sign Aries, or in a water sign, like Pisces, where the energy is mostly used in the inner being. If furthermore the Pisces Mars person has that conjunction with Saturn in Aries, initiative will be extra low, and decision making processes are hindered.
All these things have to be taken into consideration in a careful reading...which is why one needs time to see all this stuff.
My first glance at any chart is to the conjunctions, then the right angles and oppositions and only at the end I look at signs and houses. Of course with experience this process gets faster. But then communicating all of those fators takes time. Most people have no idea that they are very complex beings, and my goal is to take their attention away for a while from the outside world and start examining their inner reality, and get them to marvel at who they really are in the larger picture, and set them on their mission, as per their initial contract before coming into this life.
That is the path to true freedom.

[Jayke]

Wow, your wisdom is very much appreciated Ulli, the more I look into astrology the more I realize how complex it all seems to be with the huge amount of possible interactions of energies at play, just learning some of the basics has had me waking me up in sweats as I dream of planets, signs and symbols all racing endlessly through my mind, my girlfriend has already started asking for readings and I've only read half of one book lol...I can see why it's classed as a divination art and not just a science, the amount of intuition needed to be able to just sort through the possibilities and identify those parts which might stand out for the person sat across from you seem to be quite immense...I commend you for putting this all together for everyone and helping us get to grips with it a little better. I have 3 more books on the way so I'll probably be back to bother you for more insight when any more questions pop up lol thanks again :)

[ulli]

I honestly don't mind you bringing questions here, so we can figure out the answers together,
and others can then chip in as well.
This is a discussion forum after all.
The part about waking up in sweats and thinking about planets is important.
It means you are passionate.

Only with that kind of passion do you feel alive and know you are doing what is meant for you to do.

I recommend all the younger people to change their jobs if they don't feel passionate.
None of us are so simple that one single career is enough...our charts testify to that.

[ulli]

I just remembered Ray Merriman, who uses astrology as a base for financial analysis...

Here is his impressive bio:

"Raymond A. Merriman is the founder and President of The Merriman Market Analyst, Inc., a market-timing and advisory firm. He is the editor of the MMA Cycles Report, a financial market timing newsletter used by banks, financial institutions, investors, and traders throughout the world since 1981. He is the author of several books on Financial Astrology, including the five-volume set titled The Ultimate Book on Stock Market Timing (1997-2003), The Gold Book: Geocosmic Correlations to Gold Price Cycles (1982), The Sun, Moon, and The Silver Market: Secrets of a Silver Trader (1992), and Merriman on Market Cycles: The Basics (1994).

He has a B.S. degree in Psychology from Michigan State University (1969) and earned his first certification as a Professional Life Member of the American Federation of Astrologers in 1972. He has served as President of the International Society of Astrological Research (1994-2001), is a registered CTA (Commodities Trading Advisor), and worked as Vice-President of Retail Commodity Accounts for Paine Webber, Inc. (1990-1994), as well as an Investment Advisor for both E.F. Hutton and Prudential Bache. Raymond A. Merriman is the founder and President of The Merriman Market Analyst, Inc., a market-timing and advisory firm.


and here is his current forecast:

MMA Comments for the Week Beginning August 1, 2011
Written by Raymond Merriman
Review and Preview
“They were the world’s richest and shrewdest investors, and they rode a wave of globalization to buy bonds in a promising developing country. When that country defaulted, they were livid. The year was 1842 and the country was the United States.”- Nicholas Kristof, in the September 20, 1998 issue of New York Times International

According to media reports (which has now become the accepted and conventional belief), this will be the first time the USA has ever defaulted on its debt obligations. But as highly respected financial reporter Nicholas Kristof reported in 1998, that is not the case. A lot of hype and exaggeration tends to occur when Mercury is connected with Sagittarius. Ideas presented as facts are not always true and it is a challenge just to separate the bluster from the truth

Unfortunately, what happened last week was true. I mean, the worst side of heliocentric Mercury in Sagittarius (July 19-31) proved to be as panic-driven and hysterical as suggested could be the case. At first this transit started out as euphoric and optimistic. Stock markets rallied smartly the first three days as hope leaped, based on the possibility of a USA debt ceiling agreement. But as indicated in last week’s column, “…it was perhaps not a surprise that investors were looking for any reason to buy. They got not one, but as many as three possible reasons last week, none of which is based upon anything more than hope.”

Last week reality trumped hope. The stock markets of the world topped out July 21-22 (the prior week). But as the dysfunction (President Obama’s words) of the White House and Congress trying to agree upon a plan to raise the debt ceiling limit became more and more apparent to investors, stock markets began falling, and they fell all week. And now we come to the so-called “deadline” of August 2 when the USA will not have enough funds to meet all of its financial obligations, thereby courting the dreaded “default.” But here is a heliocentric Mercury in Sagittarius riddle: if there is going to be a default, why did U.S. Treasuries soar last week to their highest level since the financial meltdown of late 2008? Somebody knows something, and what is being reported is clearly not everything. Who is buying U.S. Treasuries in this environment?

But the drama in D.C continues. Will there be any adults in the room as the pressures mount to forge an agreement before it is too late (and just exactly when is “too late?”)? There are not likely many adults in the room now in any event with the Sun in Leo (Leo rules children) and in square to Jupiter (Jupiter rules exaggeration, bluffs, and hysteria). Where is Saturn (the adult in the room) when we need him? Well, he is over in the Gold market, stocking up on the real future currency as the Dollar and Euro continue to be suspect, given the karma now coming forth from governmental fiscal mismanagement and corruption in the financial community over the past decade in both regions of the world. But what good does it do to cast blame over past behaviors? The problem is in the present: the inability or unwillingness of leaders in both fields (as well as banking) to change courses and fully recover from the addiction of spending beyond one’s means. Overcoming such addictions is never easy, especially when you don’t understand the causes (not that I do, but like everyone, I want leaders who understand and who also have the well-being of those they serve at the forefront of their behaviors). There are some on both sides of the aisle.

The biggest star last week was once again Gold, which soared to another new record high of 1637/ounce in the December contract. The Swiss Franc and Japanese Yen also soared to new record highs against the U.S. Dollar. The Swiss Franc is now nearing the 130 target that I gave in the presentation to the ICE traders last October (http://www.youtube.com/raymondmerriman). It surpassed 127 last week.

Short-Term Geocosmics
We now come into the Mercury retrograde time band (August 2-26) and a slew of other “not-so-funny” signatures discussed the prior two weeks. In what is becoming an unhealthy and regular pattern, the U.S. Congress and White House will probably make an important policy decision under Mercury retrograde. And once again everyone is likely to discover that whatever they agreed upon will have to be revisited and debated again, because they didn’t have time to read and comprehend clearly the whole deal. There is likely no long-term acceptance of what is about to pass in Congress. Yes, I think something will pass shortly on the debt ceiling, but it won’t solve the problem. It is more likely to create new ones, unless they willingly agree to a temporary solution, and respectfully revisit it again under more favorable cosmic conditions, something the President has said he won’t accept.

But in terms of markets, this next week is potentially very critical. Of most importance (in my view) is transiting Mars entering Cancer on August 3. It will immediately conjunct the USA’s natal Venus and Jupiter, the Federal Reserve Board’s natal Pluto (opposition to its natal Sun), and President Obama’s natal Venus. And during this same period next week, Obama will celebrate (or curse) his 50th birthday on August 4. Mars entering any cardinal sign is a big deal for Financial and Mundane Astrologers. Many financial markets - especially those related to the interest-rates (Treasuries, currencies) - are most vulnerable to reversals. Its history implies a sudden and major change in investor sentiment regarding markets, for one week later Mars will then form a T-square with Uranus and Pluto (August 8-10). They are now within only one degree of a square to one another. It may not be easy being a leader in government, banking, and business, pivoting so suddenly, and probably in a self-serving manner by which they hope to deflect any criticism. It’s going to get extremely emotional, so try your best to act like “the adult in the room” wherever you are. You’re likely to see some very immature behaviors exhibited, like “tantrums.”

Longer Term Thoughts
“Addressing the current federal debt ceiling crisis by itself is no fix at all,” the group led by BlackRock, the world’s largest money manager said in an open letter on Monday. The consequences of a downgrade from Triple A status would be “very real and very serious,” the letter said. It would mean higher interest rates over the course of many years ahead and risks the US dollar losing its status as the world’s reserve currency…"
- Financial Times, July 26, 2011, “Custodians Issue Deficit Warning.”

Funny, isn’t it? The very consequences described in these columns and the Forecast Books of the past two years, based on the historical correlation of planetary cycles to human activity, are now being addressed by mainstream news reports. The U.S. Dollar may lose its status as the world’s reserve currency as a result of a downgrade of its creditworthiness, which is a result of the inability (or unwillingness) of leaders to control the continuously escalating debt crisis. That’s now news! But it is old news to Financial Astrologers.

How did we first pick this theme up via our understanding of Financial Astrology? It wasn’t that hard (but somebody had to do it). We start with the waning phase of the Saturn-Pluto cycle (opposition to conjunction), which lasts 16-20 years. In the current case, it is in force between 2001 and 2020 (before that it was 1966-1982). Historically this is a period in which government spending increases greatly, and more than federal revenue receipts. As a result, the deficits and debt of a nation increases greatly too. In order to make up this difference, governments usually have to borrow more money (in the form of bond issuance) and increase taxes, both on individuals and corporations. But then unemployment increases and the economy starts to stagnate shortly after, as there is less money for consumers to spend, and therefore less demand for goods and services in the private sector. Interest rates also go up and stock markets suffer steeper declines and more frequent bear markets. The economy enters more frequent and deeper recessions coincident with these policies during this phase of the Saturn-Pluto cycle.

Secondly, the forecast of the Dollar losing its status was a matter of comparing the transits of the furthest out planetary movements to the charts of the USA and the Federal Reserve Board, the true custodians of the U.S. Dollar’s value. Pluto, as written many times in this column, pertains to debt. Venus is its currency. When the transit of Pluto, Neptune, or Uranus form a hard aspect (conjunction, square, or opposition) to one’s natal Venus or Jupiter, there is a danger of spending more than one can afford and thereby flirting with the prospect of bankruptcy (or default). The U.S.A. chart (born July 2 or 4) has its natal Venus and Jupiter in the first five degrees of Cancer. The Saturn-Uranus-Pluto T-square last year was in the first five degrees of Aries, Libra, and Capricorn, making a grand square to the USA natal Venus-Jupiter. Thus four of the possible six combinations of potential bankruptcy were present, and both Pluto and Uranus will remain in the celestial region until 2013. Additionally, the Federal Reserve Board (born December 23, 1913) also has its natal Sun-Pluto opposition in the first two degrees of Capricorn and Cancer, again part of a grand square to Saturn, Uranus, and Pluto, of which Uranus is still in force.

Will the USA default on its debt? Well, it happened in 1842. That was part of a major economic depression period for the USA. It was shortly after President Andrew Jackson terminated the USA’s central bank, the equivalent of today’s Federal Reserve. The USA government, and not an independent bank, became the custodian of the USA funds. It didn’t work out so well then. If the USA Dollar loses its status as the world’s reserve currency, it probably won’t work out so well for the either Federal Reserve or the USA economy this time either. What was going on in 1842 was very similar to what was going on in 2010. Saturn and Pluto were right in middle of their waning phase.

Yet even though there are similarities between then and now in terms of planetary cycles and economic conditions, the result does not have to be the same. After all, that is the higher purpose of cycles: to recognize what has worked and what hasn’t worked when a particular cycle returns, and to maximize that which does work while countering that which didn’t work with a different behavior. It’s called “awareness, openness, and choice,” as opposed to “ignorance, entrenchment, and denial.” One is highly functional, the other greatly dysfunctional.

http://www.mmacycles.com/weekly-preview/mma-comments-for-the-week/mma-comments-for-the-week-beginning-august-1,-2011/

[Calz]

Well ... I traded futures for a "hobby" and I was an astrologer for a "hobby".

Let me just say if one wants to wade into this minefield they had best be *very well funded* and have nerves of steel.

Astro helps but only if you can put on a position and sit comfortably and confidently while the market takes you down dramatically in the short term.

That said ... we are talking history here ... the system is collapsing by the minute.

No time for anyone to learn how to do this.

Is it not clear to everyone by now???

[ulli]

Well, all system change is tough, of course.
But the world will go on.
People will form communities and barter for a while, then get used to the global currency.

What I sincerely HOPE is that after the shift
people will make their hobbies their professions.

Because the profession or job is mostly coerced,
during a period of life when the system imposes it's demands
and lures people into a monotonous trap.

A person's hobbies reveal where the heart is at. ;)

[Calz]

My "hope" is that money will disappear.

Alex Collier ET message (paraphrasing):


Why do you need to pay money to live on a planet you were born on???

[spelsylver]

Would you mind doing mine?

12/14/84

10:53 am

Torrance , CA

[Carmody]

I think my list of 'hobbies' would scare most people.

Neptune in the first, in Scorpio, trine a triple conjunction.... and sextile a quad conjunction.

[ulli]

What will disappear is war, hunger, homelessness, and all sorts of ridiculous extremes.

But money will still be used, as a system of exchange.

Or singers will have to sing for their food,

and and poets pay for their food with poetry.

I don't want to be paid with poetry when my avocado trees start bearing.

[Calz]

Someone needs some "mentoring" :nod:

[Carmody]

My "hope" is that money will disappear.

Alex Collier ET message (paraphrasing):


Why do you need to pay money to live on a planet you were born on???

The dissolution of money is only functional in a 'over unity-free energy' environment.

Loosing money outside of that, has the very high chance of creating a simple feudal slavery system of purposefully created ignorance and extreme social/cultural violence. Controlled workforces. Plain and simple.

My last life lived was on a world just like that. No future and it was deep into the downward spiral.

As soon as one steps out of the jungle or pastoral aspects of living, the need for a universal value exchange system rears it's head.

Remove energy as the limiter.... and then the system you seek --- can appear.

[ulli]

My "hope" is that money will disappear.

Alex Collier ET message (paraphrasing):


Why do you need to pay money to live on a planet you were born on???

The dissolution of money is only functional in a 'over unity-free energy' environment.

Loosing money outside of that, has the very high chance of creating simple feudal slavery system of purposefully created ignorance and extreme violence. Controlled workforces. Plain and simple.

As soon as one steps out of the jungle or pastoral aspects of living, the need for a universal value exchange system rears it's head.

Remove energy as the limiter.... and then the system you seek --- can appear.

Remove top-down hierarchy government as the limiter...then whatever is agreed on and works best....can appear.

I say let's all use pretty glass beads, or marbles, different colours for different values.

[Carmody]

My "hope" is that money will disappear.

Alex Collier ET message (paraphrasing):


Why do you need to pay money to live on a planet you were born on???

The dissolution of money is only functional in a 'over unity-free energy' environment.

Loosing money outside of that, has the very high chance of creating simple feudal slavery system of purposefully created ignorance and extreme violence. Controlled workforces. Plain and simple.

As soon as one steps out of the jungle or pastoral aspects of living, the need for a universal value exchange system rears it's head.

Remove energy as the limiter.... and then the system you seek --- can appear.

Remove top-down hierarchy government as the limiter...then whatever is agreed on and works best....can appear.

I say let's all use pretty glass beads, or marbles, different colours for different values.

The removal of the energy control paradigm is the thing that reflects 'openness' back onto the given society.

All these things will happen at once, and will get mixed up in our tum-tum-tummies.

[ulli]

Someone needs some "mentoring" :nod:

Right...send Alex Collier my way...I'll set him straight.

[ulli]

I think my list of 'hobbies' would scare most people.

Neptune in the first, in Scorpio, trine a triple conjunction.... and sextile a quad conjunction.

Unless they really plan to go ahead with that mass extinction thingy I'd suggest there is room for all.
Bring it on!
Carmody, you couldn't scare a fly!

[Calz]

I think my list of 'hobbies' would scare most people.

Neptune in the first, in Scorpio, trine a triple conjunction.... and sextile a quad conjunction.

Unless they really plan to go ahead with that mass extinction thingy I'd suggest there is room for all.
Bring it on!
Carmody, you couldn't scare a fly!

No doubt about the plans.

Whether or not said plans will manifest is quite another thing.

[ulli]

....when the prophesied thing does not happen the prophet did a good job.

http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/jonah-in-his-whale-home-fred-jinkins.jpg

[ulli]

The sign of Leo is associated with the sun.
Just as the sun is the life giver of our solar system,
so Leos are the centre of attention,
comfortable being the ones in the lime light.
Collectively the sun in Leo should restore confidence
and by the time the sun enters Virgo even the most fearful
should start sensing a better future.
We are halfway through Leo now and I'm wondering
if we'll get that little lift this year.

Also I have been wondering if the coronal mass ejections at this time
when they hit the earth during the next few days may not
have in them some special magic that can inspire us
with fresh confidence.

Just musing.

[astrid]

It's a pity we don't have a members only section so we can all put up our astro charts for viewing amongst each other.

i wonder if it can be arranged.

What's everyone think of this idea?
I must say i'm totally hooked on all things astro right now.
It's completely fascinating!

But man such a HUGE topic, im trying to learn it all at once,
feels like my brain is going to explode, lol

Oh and...Thanks again Ulli for all your work here, its much appreciated.

[ThePythonicCow]

It's a pity we don't have a members only section so we can all put up our astro charts for viewing amongst each other.

i wonder if it can be arranged.
The three sub-forums (1) Witnesses, (2) Living Off The Grid and (3) Off-Topic all seem to -not- be visible to non-members.

So, yes, I think it is technically possible.

(And - yes - thanks Ulli :))

[ulli]

Would you mind doing mine?

12/14/84

10:53 am

Torrance , CA

Very long waiting list right now.
Also, I decided to do them like a lottery draw.

The ones who meet me halfway with their coordinates,
as per my request further up in the thread,
stand the best chance.

[astrid]

ok coolies, thanks Paul so its doable...
what do others think??

You can cut your actually time of birth out of the image if that's an issue,
although i know u can figure it out by the planets, etc.

Was just thinking it would be less of a stress on Ulli too....

[ulli]

ok coolies, thanks Paul so its doable...
what do others think??

You can cut your actually time of birth out of the image if that's an issue,
although i know u can figure it out by the planets, etc.

Was just thinking it would be less of a stress on Ulli too....

Worth looking into, and would be easier for me. If the entire page were filled with just chart wheels and their discussion could continue in this thread it could be physically easier. Right now I'm doing a lot of scrolling and moving back and forth between websites searching for daylight savings time, coordinates of really obscure birth places in obscure countries...looking for my notebook where I wrote the data of those who applied via PM, then getting all mixed up as some others applied on the thread...it's all endlessly time consuming, frankly has become confusing and not much fun anymore. Also some people just got their charts done, clicked the thank you button and then disappeared, and I must admit, that left me feeling I had been used. That was never the idea...
Maybe I should ask Paul to help me make an application form to vet for membership only those who are really keen on studying this stuff with sincerity, hehe ;)

[Carmody]

I think my list of 'hobbies' would scare most people.

Neptune in the first, in Scorpio, trine a triple conjunction.... and sextile a quad conjunction.

Unless they really plan to go ahead with that mass extinction thingy I'd suggest there is room for all.
Bring it on!
Carmody, you couldn't scare a fly!

Yes, I throw bugs outside. I'm unhappy when I harm them.

[Carmody]

....when the prophesied thing does not happen the prophet did a good job.

http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/jonah-in-his-whale-home-fred-jinkins.jpg

"Go ahead! Leave the Carcass! See if I care!" - Ren Höek (Ren and Stimpy Show) (I wonder how many have see that one....) ;)

[ulli]

Here is a site where you can test compatibility with your partner...
I haven't tried it yet, but wanted to share before doing it:

http://www.0800-horoscope.com/compatibility.php


Ok, I just did it...pretty accurate, even though doesn't ask for exact birth time...
Analyzes the main aspects of the mutual planets and gives them number values.
Not a bad excercise for someone who is learning how this works.

[astrid]

Ulli, im out and staying out, a relationship with those transits,

that would be really asking for it, lol.........

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Carmody i have some similar alignments to you it seems i will pm you my chart.

[ulli]

Ulli, im out and staying out, a relationship with those transits,

that would be really asking for it, lol.........

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Carmody i have some similar alignments to you it seems i will pm you my chart.

Look at it this way
Uranus is opposite your sun right now and Uranus rules astrology, and it's grabbed you by the neck.
Perfect time for getting into a relationship with astrology...
I can't think of a better application of this transit.
Then the Saturn quincunx to Saturn...signifying the hardship that comes with the early days...there is no easy way, but it will suddenly all click, and then it becomes automatic...like learning to drive a car, or playing the piano...

When I had Uranus on my sun in 1993, together with Neptune, that was hard, too, and I was learning how to use my first computer...another Uranian field...anything high-tech.
Then Uranus hit my Mars a few years later, and with it came several virus attacks, until I got decent security systems installed.

[astrid]

I was reading up on these transits yesterday,
From what i can gather, Saturn is saying slow down, and Uranus is saying go really fast...
I'm relaxed, but i have this underpinning anxiety, its pretty odd.

I have noticed too that my focus has been so much better of late,
it's intense, but i must say i'm really enjoying that part of it.
I have been floundering on a few projects for a while now,
so im hoping that i will see some more forward motion,
but for now you are spot on, Astrology has a firm grip.

[ulli]

Saturn rules focus, tunnel vision.
Meanwhile Uranus gets distracted, wants to spread thin, be everywhere at once.

[Carmody]

Saturn rules focus, tunnel vision.
Meanwhile Uranus gets distracted, wants to spread thin, be everywhere at once.

I love being everywhere at once! (said in best Ren Höek voice)

But in a relaxed kinda way.

The prominence of Uranus mixing with Neptune.

[ulli]

Saturn rules focus, tunnel vision.
Meanwhile Uranus gets distracted, wants to spread thin, be everywhere at once.

I love being everywhere at once! (said in best Ren Höek voice)

But in a relaxed kinda way.

The prominence of Uranus mixing with Neptune.

I get the image of a spider, legs crossed, arms behind head, lying inside a huge web he just finished making, attached to many trees, and which is full of glistening dewdrops...the web is an extention of himself, and his senses can access every single thread...

[astrid]

Ulli which books, authors can you recommend for the new Astrology student?


I just found a really an really interesting mp3 file on Edgar Cayce and Astrology.
I will try and upload it here.

ok its here.. on this list.

http://mp3skull.com/mp3/edgar_cayce.html

Also.... i have astro friends that follow Tom Lescher , he brings out weekly updates.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNdhdnd2M4Q

[ViralSpiral]

The thing that makes being a grandma bearable is having actual grandchildren and better still, speculating about their birth charts.



You make me laugh! Thanks

this hangs in my mothers's house:


http://i1.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/250/draft_lens18090754module151105385photo_1309171958Grandchildren.jpg

[wegge]

With astrological possibilities in mind I think the Caesarean (section) get´s new range of meaning?
Has any of the astrologers here also experiences with the shaman medicine wheel?

http://www.ruidoso.net/highmesa/wheel1a.gif

this reminds me of the game ludo... in germany it´s called "Mensch ärgere dich nicht" (Do not get angry, man). Both games are derived from the indian game Pachisi.
The token as planets?

http://www.tigerstores.co.uk/uploads/c_product/20012228_picture_4874_3.jpg

[Catsquotl]

In reading up on astrology. Well sort of reading loads and understanding little yet…
I found this explanation on the birth chart. Maybe it’s as useful for you as it is for me…
Look at your chart and answer these questions:
I am someone with the being of (sun/sign), And find my biggest development in (sun/house)
My Role and life’s feeling is (AC),In this I am supported and influenced by(Planets in the first house)
My disposition is like (moon/sign),and forces my instinctively towards(moon/house)
I think like (mercury/sign), and prefer to use my mind in regards to Mercury/house)
My idea’s about love, relations and beauty is (venus/sign), my experience of beauty is expressed in (venus/house)
I do battle like (mars/sign), and fight my conflicts often in (mars/house)
Life’s attitude I find valueble and impressive (Jupiter/sign)
I feel wealthy in the terrain of (Jupiter/house), and all jupiter touches (jupiter- aspects)
I experience difficulty with (Saturn/sign), My boundaries, guilty feelings and biggest growth opportunities are within (Saturn/house) and all Saturn touches (Saturn-aspects)
I am living my independence en change my point of views in the area of (Uranus/sign)
And all Uranus touches (Uranus-aspects)
Deep desires and longing for salvation I experience in the field of (Neptune/house), and all Neptune touches.(Neptune-aspects)
Power, disempower,tunnelexperiences,possesion and deep transformations are experienced my me in the field of (Pluto/house),And all Pluto touches(Pluto-aspects).

I am sorry for the broken engrisch.. I had to translate all the questions from dutch.
Anyone up for adding moon node’s, Lillith, Midpoints etc.

With Love
Eelco

[Catsquotl]

Also some people just got their charts done, clicked the thank you button and then disappeared, and I must admit, that left me feeling I had been used. That was never the idea...
Maybe I should ask Paul to help me make an application form to vet for membership only those who are really keen on studying this stuff with sincerity, hehe ;)

I am sorry. I responded a little, but it was not my intention to leave you feeling used. After your reading I have been On holliday without much of an internet connection (appart from my cellphone to read up at times.) And been immersing myself in astrology books and computerprograms (gotta love bit torrent and keppler version 7 or janus 4) Whilst of course do the time juggle with my 6 kids who deserve more of my time, especially during the hollidays....

That said I was not prepared for the huge amount of info trying to learn astrology entails..I would not know where to begin to start asking questions about the reading you did..
Maybe i'll get back to you as things start to fall into place.

With Love
Eelco

[modwiz]

Ulli which books, authors can you recommend for the new Astrology student?


I just found a really an really interesting mp3 file on Edgar Cayce and Astrology.
I will try and upload it here.

ok its here.. on this list.

http://mp3skull.com/mp3/edgar_cayce.html

Also.... i have astro friends that follow Tom Lescher , he brings out weekly updates.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNdhdnd2M4Q

Hey, it's Elrond! :nod:

[ulli]

In reading up on astrology. Well sort of reading loads and understanding little yet…
I found this explanation on the birth chart. Maybe it’s as useful for you as it is for me…
Look at your chart and answer these questions:
I am someone with the being of (sun/sign), And find my biggest development in (sun/house)
My Role and life’s feeling is (AC),In this I am supported and influenced by(Planets in the first house)
My disposition is like (moon/sign),and forces my instinctively towards(moon/house)
I think like (mercury/sign), and prefer to use my mind in regards to Mercury/house)
My idea’s about love, relations and beauty is (venus/sign), my experience of beauty is expressed in (venus/house)
I do battle like (mars/sign), and fight my conflicts often in (mars/house)
Life’s attitude I find valueble and impressive (Jupiter/sign)
I feel wealthy in the terrain of (Jupiter/house), and all jupiter touches (jupiter- aspects)
I experience difficulty with (Saturn/sign), My boundaries, guilty feelings and biggest growth opportunities are within (Saturn/house) and all Saturn touches (Saturn-aspects)
I am living my independence en change my point of views in the area of (Uranus/sign)
And all Uranus touches (Uranus-aspects)
Deep desires and longing for salvation I experience in the field of (Neptune/house), and all Neptune touches.(Neptune-aspects)
Power, disempower,tunnelexperiences,possesion and deep transformations are experienced my me in the field of (Pluto/house),And all Pluto touches(Pluto-aspects).

I am sorry for the broken engrisch.. I had to translate all the questions from dutch.
Anyone up for adding moon node’s, Lillith, Midpoints etc.

With Love
Eelco

Thanks for that, but if I added the moon's node, Lilith, midpoints, it would mean continuing an uncomfortable journey, where one might get lost in irrelevancies, on a rough road, wearing heavy boots.
You might find easier ways to learning this...more fun methods.
Some of it is quite true, of course, and valuable for any learner. I had a look. But it is a bit limiting, and therefore could be frustrating.
But everybody's learning method is different.

I started out with two books, one very dry in it's style, and using ancient concepts, and the other was a coffee table book called The Compleat Astrologer, full of pictures, psychological lingo, and clearly laid out pages.
Neither one of them was perfect for me, so whenever I became frustrated, which was quite often, I switched back to the other book. Then I started buying more books.
I can understand my behaviour now, as I have Mercury in Aquarius, which makes me like a mental pop corn.

Until I learnt astrology I always felt uncomfortable with myself, as I had received so much criticism all my life from other people. Now I understand them, have forgiven them...no child with a Mars Mercury conjunction in Aquarius and Pluto rising is easy to be around, and they let me know it. That was before they used labels like ADHD. As a child I switched between ADHD and autism, withdrawing into myself when overwhelmed by hatred for "those stupid adults"...

But then I learnt astrology and everything changed. It's ok to be a motor mouth when you have an interested audience...I found out. I was in heaven with a microphone in my hand, though initially very scared of it.

So if people have a look at their own chart they will get an indication about their personal learning style...some people learn best by reading quietly on their own, (Capricorn, Aquarius), others by listening, (Pisces), others by debate and interaction (Libra, Gemini), others by grazing a bit here and there(Sagittarius)
What I find great is this can be done in one's own time...
You no other master than yourself. When there is never enough time, that's when you know that this is your calling.
Just keep doing all your friends charts, and better still, get them involved.

It's a big AHA! moment when you are reading an astrology book and you discover that the writer stole from another book, the one you just finished reading, and had lifted everything verbatim, including the other authors spelling error, haha...
That should tell you something...
Like "hey, I could write a better book than this!!!!"

I stick to websites now, personally...the Internet has spoiled me.
Google as many pages as possible, randomly. If you write "Sun Venus conjunction" in the search box a whole bunch of sites should come up, and on the same page you may find info about all the other conjunctions.
Even squares, trines, oppositions and sextiles.
Astrologers are a generous bunch, having been ridiculed so much that now they use the Internet to share freely.

I used to refer to Robert Hand's books...in particular "Planets in Transits", since my clients wanted to know what was going on with their lives more than who they were basically.
But nothing beats googling for getting loads of info quickly.
Then bookmark your favorite sites.....Then put your partners, mothers, fathers, data in there- or anyone you know really well, and start analyzing.
Don't forget to have a good laugh at everyone's expense, including your own.

[ulli]

[QUOTE=ulli;277457]

I am sorry. I responded a little, but it was not my intention to leave you feeling used. After your reading I have been On holliday without much of an internet connection (appart from my cellphone to read up at times.) And been immersing myself in astrology books and computerprograms (gotta love bit torrent and keppler version 7 or janus 4) Whilst of course do the time juggle with my 6 kids who deserve more of my time, especially during the hollidays....

That said I was not prepared for the huge amount of info trying to learn astrology entails..I would not know where to begin to start asking questions about the reading you did..
Maybe i'll get back to you as things start to fall into place.

With Love
Eelco

Not to worry, Eelco...thanks for being sweet and considerate...and good job raising six kids, wow!!!!


Actually, I wasn't even thinking of anyone in particular, except perhaps one...and even there I realized afterwards I just had to repay a Karmic debt.
( now I can hear everyone's brain wheels buzzing...who I wonder, is ulli talking about?)

Ya'll never find out. Remember I had some Gurdjieff training which means you can never be sure what I mean.
You are your reality. YOU!
When that has sunk in, in it's totality, that's when you can step out and shake hands with ET and say "Welcome to my
world!"

[ulli]

With astrological possibilities in mind I think the Caesarean (section) get´s new range of meaning?
Has any of the astrologers here also experiences with the shaman medicine wheel?

http://www.ruidoso.net/highmesa/wheel1a.gif

this reminds me of the game ludo... in germany it´s called "Mensch ärgere dich nicht" (Do not get angry, man).

Hi Wegge

This question about Cesarian birth really bothered me...
I was honestly panicked when my first grandson, due to his Cesarian birth scheduling, was born with an Aries moon, instead of the much healthier Taurus moon.
Why is the moon better in some signs than in others?
Well, that question is up for debate, depends how one feels about human emotions.
The moon is what makes us emotional, and in Aries, which is a hot sign, the temper can be fierce. (Hey, look, even the word "fierce" has fire in it.)
Meanwhile Taurus is very stable, to the point of stubborness, so having the moon there means the person has an easier time controlling their emotions and responses...better for maintaining peace on earth.
But after accepting things the way they are and looking at some amazing moon in Aries people, I was ok with it.
Even hospital scheduling is taken into acoount by an all- knowing higher self.
To really start living one has to get into a "it's all good" mode...that's what a friend of mine in Barbados named his restaurant, lol.
After that, when you notice something wrong, you can start responding, and doing something.

No good watching all that negativity on the news, it so overwhelming that it locks one into inactivity.


I played that game Ludo too...and yes, possibly it is all connected.

All the divination arts come from a time in history when certain mysteries were understood...
The gnostic teachings, Toltec, the I Ching, runes, Maya calender, palmistry...

All provide languages and paths to the same spot: the true self.

And wham! Fifth element in place, and humanity becomes divinity.
Easy. Just chose your path, or language.
Then look within, for awhile, anyway....
Find out how lovable you are...
After that you'll funtion so much better

[Carmody]

Saturn rules focus, tunnel vision.
Meanwhile Uranus gets distracted, wants to spread thin, be everywhere at once.

I love being everywhere at once! (said in best Ren Höek voice)

But in a relaxed kinda way.

The prominence of Uranus mixing with Neptune.

I get the image of a spider, legs crossed, arms behind head, lying inside a huge web he just finished making, attached to many trees, and which is full of glistening dewdrops...the web is an extention of himself, and his senses can access every single thread...

Yes, Uranus (humanity and electricity-and it's an electric universe) running amok, with Neptune in the first..in Scorpio. Tied to the power of the combined oscillations of 7 other planets, in good but powerful aspect to one another.

Thus the whole psychic involvement with the death of others, the passage through the system of astral planes. Thus my familial name, "shelterer of the door, guardian of the doorway; pulling the smoke from the fire, exposing the light of the forge". And so on. Each of us has our own story, of some similarity, and some given function.

[ulli]

Great analysis, Carmody.
But if you were a Pisces you would see it as a liquid universe, not an electric one.
Virgo is all about nerves, which are thin wires like electricity conductors, hence energy flow has a specific direction and voltages can be measured. Pisces is currents and waves...one can never measure those, although some surfers might come close.
Yet the universe doesn't care what we see it as, it is way beyond our limited perspectives.

So much greater and so much more mysterious...yet always beckoning the explorer...come come...

The main thing is for people to project whatever is best for their own understanding, so they can continue to function in a linear way, waking up and able to pick up where they left off before going to sleep.
For that a healthy ego is needed.
As in I'm OK, you're OK.

[ulli]

@ Astrid

It looks like you are already showing me more than I can show you...which is amazing.
I loved that video.
When I was learning astrology I had a set of books that may be a bit outdated now...Margaret Hone comes to mind...I'd have to go to my musty old library to look at them....oh and Liz Greene, too....Michael Lutin...great fun to read. I never could get into the high-brow writers, except perhaps Reinhold Ebertin.
the real learning happens in the doing, and how you yourself process the info and make it your own.
That's when it becomes an art. It is important also to remember that whoever you are reading a chart for has at that moment been brought there by providence, as well as you to them.
If you have doubt in that your readings will get stuck.
So just as with medicine, confidence is an important factor...without getting stuck in self-importance.

[jozam]

Hi Ulli is it ok to give you my date and time ..i was born 15/11/64 my mothers not sure of the time but guesses arond 2.30pm..thankyou

[ulli]

I just finished doing Kamikaze's chart and when I pressed the "send" button the whole page vanished...no idea how to get it back...
if I were a computer wiz I could probably do it...I just realized the Internet crashed briefly.

Mercury retrograde, opposite Neptune....no point forcing the issue with such stuff going on...also the kitten jumped on my back and clawed itself up my skin, drawing blood.
Now I want Kamikaze to change his name before I give it another try....sniff..

[Curt]

I just finished doing Kamikaze's chart and when I pressed the "send" button the whole page vanished...no idea how to get it back...
if I were a computer wiz I could probably do it...I just realized the Internet crashed briefly.

Mercury retrograde, opposite Neptune....no point forcing the issue with such stuff going on...also the kitten jumped on my back and clawed itself up my skin, drawing blood.
Now I want Kamikaze to change his name before I give it another try....sniff..

Ouch. Computers are cruel sometimes. And so are cats for that matter, but at least they're cute. :typing:

[ulli]

I'm going to try and reconstruct what I wrote about Kamikaze's chart...

Aries Ascendant, with Jupiter also in Aries, just above the Ascendant in the 12th house
Sun in Gemini in the 3rd, Mercury, Mars and the moon in Cancer in the 4th. That already gives a strong contradictive setting...where the need for homeliness and security clash with a strong drive for adventure.

I was thinking when I saw that, and later also when I saw Pluto on the Midheaven, the highest point of the chart and indicative of death and rebirth, how the name Kamikaze was so totally apt.
Because what more can one do to keep the collective safe than give one's own life?
It has to be a highly evolved soul that is willing to do that, never mind that they were probably brainwashed into doing it.
But in the case of this evolved Avalonian who may or may well be enlightened, a transcendence point has already been reached
and no longer is it necessary to be a martyr.
Instead teaching and guiding others to transform from their own brainwashed selves to their true selves is all that is required.

[sandy]

Also some people just got their charts done, clicked the thank you button and then disappeared, and I must admit, that left me feeling I had been used. That was never the idea...
Maybe I should ask Paul to help me make an application form to vet for membership only those who are really keen on studying this stuff with sincerity, hehe ;)

I am sorry. I responded a little, but it was not my intention to leave you feeling used. After your reading I have been On holliday without much of an internet connection (appart from my cellphone to read up at times.) And been immersing myself in astrology books and computerprograms (gotta love bit torrent and keppler version 7 or janus 4) Whilst of course do the time juggle with my 6 kids who deserve more of my time, especially during the hollidays....

That said I was not prepared for the huge amount of info trying to learn astrology entails..I would not know where to begin to start asking questions about the reading you did..
Maybe i'll get back to you as things start to fall into place.

With Love
Eelco

Dear Ulli,

Please take my data off of your list of people to read their astrology chart. I must have misinterpreted your invitation to do this for Avalon members. I do not have a desire to learn all about astrology as it is just to complicated for my mind to grasp. I have tried to follow this thread but 3 quarters of it goes over my head due to my lack of basic knowledge.

I just thought you were offering to do this to help others in areas of direction for their lives and sometimes understanding for what may be reasons for positive or negative events happening in ones life that may be from the cosmos that many are not aware of due to not knowing or understanding the dynamics of the cosmos.

Therefore the last thing I would ever want, is for you to feel used by me, thus my request to have my info deleted from your list. I think you are very bright, intuitive and wise and do value and read your posts. So must say thank you for sharing your experiences and life journey as I have grown from your openness and honesty :)

[ulli]

Dear Sandy,

Thank you for writing such a nice letter and expressing concern for me.
It actually makes you a candidate for a reading...because I can feel your sincerity.

In the financial investment world there are rules like "don't buy just because shares are cheap...
look at the company's growth momentum... then invest..."

Or in the good old days, when bankers were still decent people, they would lend money
only to those who had already shown an ability to save a few bucks every week...
or, in other words, who had a handle on their shopping impulses.

How does this relate to astrology? Everything is related. As above, so below.
Never underestimate the lessons of the material world...
they are parallels to the higher worlds.

When a person has sincere hunger to grow spiritually
they will start to take care of their own spiritual well-being.
And to some that may look like selfishness. It is not.
We have to free ourselves from feeling judged by other people's standards.

Here is a quote from Baha'i writings which has remained with me even after I quit working in groups.
It shows again how absolute truth still can be found...INSIDE of us, placed there by our creator.

Baha'u'llah: "Man is the supreme Talisman.
Lack of a proper education has, however, deprived him of that which he inherently possesses.

Through a word proceeding out of the mouth of God he was called into being;
by one word more he was guided to recognize the Source of his education;
by yet another word his station and destiny were safeguarded.

The Great Being saith: Regard man as a mine rich in gems of inestimable value.
Education can, alone, cause it to reveal its treasures, and enable mankind to benefit therefrom.

If any man were to meditate on that which the Scriptures, sent down from the heaven of God's holy Will,
have revealed, he would readily recognize that their purpose is that all men shall be regarded as one soul, so that the seal bearing the words `The Kingdom shall be God's' may be stamped on every heart,
and the light of Divine bounty, of grace, and mercy may envelop all mankind.

The One true God, exalted be His glory, hath wished nothing for Himself.
The allegiance of mankind profiteth Him not, neither doth its perversity harm Him.

The Bird of the Realm of Utterance voiceth continually this call:
`All things have I willed for thee, for thine own sake.'

If the learned and worldly-wise men of this age were to allow mankind
to inhale the fragrance of fellowship and love, every understanding heart would apprehend the meaning of true liberty,
and discover the secret of undisturbed peace and absolute composure.

[thunder24]

Here is a quote from Baha'i writings which has remained with me even after I quit working in groups.
It shows again how absolute truth still can be found...INSIDE of us, placed there by our creator.

Baha'u'llah: "Man is the supreme Talisman.
Lack of a proper education has, however, deprived him of that which he inherently possesses.

Through a word proceeding out of the mouth of God he was called into being;
by one word more he was guided to recognize the Source of his education;
by yet another word his station and destiny were safeguarded.

The Great Being saith: Regard man as a mine rich in gems of inestimable value.
Education can, alone, cause it to reveal its treasures, and enable mankind to benefit therefrom.

If any man were to meditate on that which the Scriptures, sent down from the heaven of God's holy Will,
have revealed, he would readily recognize that their purpose is that all men shall be regarded as one soul, so that the seal bearing the words `The Kingdom shall be God's' may be stamped on every heart,
and the light of Divine bounty, of grace, and mercy may envelop all mankind.

The One true God, exalted be His glory, hath wished nothing for Himself.
The allegiance of mankind profiteth Him not, neither doth its perversity harm Him.

The Bird of the Realm of Utterance voiceth continually this call:
`All things have I willed for thee, for thine own sake.'

If the learned and worldly-wise men of this age were to allow mankind
to inhale the fragrance of fellowship and love, every understanding heart would apprehend the meaning of true liberty,
and discover the secret of undisturbed peace and absolute composure.

awesome ulli, just awesome.:high5:

[ulli]

Hi Ulli is it ok to give you my date and time ..i was born 15/11/64 my mothers not sure of the time but guesses arond 2.30pm..thankyou

I'll put you on the list...maybe you'll be lucky.
But not only did you forget to give me the coordianbtes of your birth place, you didnt even mention the nearest city.
P.S. Bansky's art is quite important for collective change to come about, but useless for transforming the individual.

[Kamikaze]

I just finished doing Kamikaze's chart and when I pressed the "send" button the whole page vanished...no idea how to get it back...
if I were a computer wiz I could probably do it...I just realized the Internet crashed briefly.

Mercury retrograde, opposite Neptune....no point forcing the issue with such stuff going on...also the kitten jumped on my back and clawed itself up my skin, drawing blood.
Now I want Kamikaze to change his name before I give it another try....sniff..

Ouch! Something really not working well there I see. I urge you not to force it if everything seems to tell not to do it. I would call that some strong hints to take attention too.
I appreciate the time you took to see if you could get a eye on what my charts read. Do hope the cat didn't cause too bad of a sting though.
I might pay too much attention too these little whispers at times but I believe there is always a reason for why or why not.
Maybe I'm not ready to hear a complete chart read yet?


I'm going to try and reconstruct what I wrote about Kamikaze's chart...

Aries Ascendant, with Jupiter also in Aries, just above the Ascendant in the 12th house
Sun in Gemini in the 3rd, Mercury, Mars and the moon in Cancer in the 4th. That already gives a strong contradictive setting...where the need for homeliness and security clash with a strong drive for adventure.

I was thinking when I saw that, and later also when I saw Pluto on the Midheaven, the highest point of the chart and indicative of death and rebirth, how the name Kamikaze was so totally apt.
Because what more can one do to keep the collective safe than give one's own life?
It has to be a highly evolved soul that is willing to do that, never mind that they were probably brainwashed into doing it.
But in the case of this evolved Avalonian who may or may well be enlightened, a transcendence point has already been reached
and no longer is it necessary to be a martyr.
Instead teaching and guiding others to transform from their own brainwashed selves to their true selves is all that is required.

I do appreciate the extra effort you took with the reconstruct though.
But Sun in Gemini? I can't say that sounds correct.. I took up my date of birth in Stellarium and the sun is clearly in the middle of Taurus and Moon, Mars, Mercury in Gemini? Moon directly in the middle between the twins below their linked hands looking in the direction if their feet was the ground.
:)

[ulli]

I just finished doing Kamikaze's chart and when I pressed the "send" button the whole page vanished...no idea how to get it back...
if I were a computer wiz I could probably do it...I just realized the Internet crashed briefly.

Mercury retrograde, opposite Neptune....no point forcing the issue with such stuff going on...also the kitten jumped on my back and clawed itself up my skin, drawing blood.
Now I want Kamikaze to change his name before I give it another try....sniff..

Ouch! Something really not working well there I see. I urge you not to force it if everything seems to tell not to do it. I would call that some strong hints to take attention too.
I appreciate the time you took to see if you could get a eye on what my charts read. Do hope the cat didn't cause too bad of a sting though.
I might pay too much attention too these little whispers at times but I believe there is always a reason for why or why not.
Maybe I'm not ready to hear a complete chart read yet?


I'm going to try and reconstruct what I wrote about Kamikaze's chart...

Aries Ascendant, with Jupiter also in Aries, just above the Ascendant in the 12th house
Sun in Gemini in the 3rd, Mercury, Mars and the moon in Cancer in the 4th. That already gives a strong contradictive setting...where the need for homeliness and security clash with a strong drive for adventure.

I was thinking when I saw that, and later also when I saw Pluto on the Midheaven, the highest point of the chart and indicative of death and rebirth, how the name Kamikaze was so totally apt.
Because what more can one do to keep the collective safe than give one's own life?
It has to be a highly evolved soul that is willing to do that, never mind that they were probably brainwashed into doing it.
But in the case of this evolved Avalonian who may or may well be enlightened, a transcendence point has already been reached
and no longer is it necessary to be a martyr.
Instead teaching and guiding others to transform from their own brainwashed selves to their true selves is all that is required.

I do appreciate the extra effort you took with the reconstruct though.
But Sun in Gemini? I can't say that sounds correct.. I took up my date of birth in Stellarium and the sun is clearly in the middle of Taurus and Moon, Mars, Mercury in Gemini? Moon directly in the middle between the twins below their linked hands looking in the direction if their feet was the ground.
:)

The last day of May is Gemini according to my calculation. Sorry, Kamikaze, I did try.

[ulli]

I googled "stellarium" and saw it is an astronomical software...not astrological....no wonder.
Constellations are NOT astrological signs!!
The constellations were probably aligned with the spring equinox several thousand years ago, when they were used as road signs by ancient astrologers.


Modern astrologers use the tropical zodiac which divides the ecliptic
into 12 equal signs.
The tropical zodiac has a starting point based on the Earth's seasons -the vernal or spring equinox.



The energies measured go way beyond the fixed stars of our galaxy.
I think I explained it earlier in the thread when someone brought up the 13th sign.

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Wow. A huge CME hit Earth today. The stock market is crashing. Another second moon has been spotted around Earth. The media just revealed new data and a ton of movies regarding the bombing of Japan and crimes against humanity.

These are signs we've been waiting for, and I wanted to post some energy exchange in thanks for Ulli doing this great thread for us. Now a little music maestro!

Just for fun! Thanks for all you are doing, Ulli! Woo Woo! Things are moving forward now at warp speed! xoxoxoxoxoxo

apSNWeBQ7hY

[ulli]

I'll look at it in a minute, Darla.
Just have to explain a few more things to Kamikaze who still thinks he is a Taurus.\

If you had a Taurus sun you would be sensual, materialistc, stubborn, slow, luxury loving
but also thorough, cheerful at all times, and when you do lose your temper your anger can be such that you break things.
Here is a description I just found on the web, which also sums this sign up pretty well:
"Taureans are warm, loving, gentle and charming most of the time. Motivated by self preservation, the Taurean is not a risk taker and weighs every decision carefully, in a slow and methodical manner. To more impulsive people, Taurus may appear a bore. Opinionated and obstinate, once a Taurean makes a decision, it is written in stone. Don't expect radical thinking and innovative ideas here. Basically grounded, material people, Taureans prefer the known to the unknown, the tried to the new. They love the earth, comforting things, sense of ownership, and generally treat those they love as possessions."

Meanwhile as a Gemini sun you have a rather different personality: your main keywords are communication and flexibility.
Just as Taurus is the slowest sign and the least movable, Gemini is the fastest, and the most adaptable.
It would be quite easy to tell the two apart. Then you have all those Cancer planets, which spell home home home.

"Homeland Security", George W. Bush, a Cancer, had to come up with that one.
Well, the US is Cancer, too, birthday July 4th.


If you are a Gemini you are communicative, clever, fast, argumentative, flexible.
Taurus is the slowest sign of the Zodiac while Gemini is the fastest.

[sandy]

Dear Sandy,

Thank you for writing such a nice letter and expressing concern for me.
It actually makes you a candidate for a reading...because I can feel your sincerity.

In the financial investment world there are rules like "don't buy just because shares are cheap...
look at the company's growth momentum... then invest..."

Or in the good old days, when bankers were still decent people, they would lend money
only to those who had already shown an ability to save a few bucks every week...
or, in other words, who had a handle on their shopping impulses.

How does this relate to astrology? Everything is related. As above, so below.
Never underestimate the lessons of the material world...
they are parallels to the higher worlds.

When a person has sincere hunger to grow spiritually
they will start to take care of their own spiritual well-being.
And to some that may look like selfishness. It is not.
We have to free ourselves from feeling judged by other people's standards.

Here is a quote from Baha'i writings which has remained with me even after I quit working in groups.
It shows again how absolute truth still can be found...INSIDE of us, placed there by our creator.

Baha'u'llah: "Man is the supreme Talisman.
Lack of a proper education has, however, deprived him of that which he inherently possesses.

Through a word proceeding out of the mouth of God he was called into being;
by one word more he was guided to recognize the Source of his education;
by yet another word his station and destiny were safeguarded.


If any man were to meditate on that which the Scriptures, sent down from the heaven of God's holy Will,
have revealed, he would readily recognize that their purpose is that all men shall be regarded as one soul, so that the seal bearing the words `The Kingdom shall be God's' may be stamped on every heart,
and the light of Divine bounty, of grace, and mercy may envelop all mankind.

The One true God, exalted be His glory, hath wished nothing for Himself.
The allegiance of mankind profiteth Him not, neither doth its perversity harm Him.

The Bird of the Realm of Utterance voiceth continually this call:
`All things have I willed for thee, for thine own sake.'

If the learned and worldly-wise men of this age were to allow mankind
to inhale the fragrance of fellowship and love, every understanding heart would apprehend the meaning of true liberty,
and discover the secret of undisturbed peace and absolute composure.

Dear Ulli,

Well as above so below and thus these great words do describe YOU!!
The Great Being saith: Regard man as a mine rich in gems of inestimable value.
Education can, alone, cause it to reveal its treasures, and enable mankind to benefit therefrom.

Thank you Dear Sister :)

[ulli]

...snip...
If the learned and worldly-wise men of this age were to allow mankind
to inhale the fragrance of fellowship and love, every understanding heart would apprehend the meaning of true liberty,
and discover the secret of undisturbed peace and absolute composure.

Dear Ulli,

Well as above so below and thus these great words do describe YOU!!
The Great Being saith: Regard man as a mine rich in gems of inestimable value.
Education can, alone, cause it to reveal its treasures, and enable mankind to benefit therefrom.

Thank you Dear Sister :)


Sandy, not only me, but you too, and also everyone, everyone, everyone....
as long as they direct their focus to the highest
their inner gems start shimmering.

Empty the cup, trust in the principle of Goodness, and the power that is within begins to flow and manifest that goodness.

This is divine education, and many here already understand this, although each one uses different words to pass on their message.

[ulli]

Wow. A huge CME hit Earth today. The stock market is crashing. Another second moon has been spotted around Earth. The media just revealed new data and a ton of movies regarding the bombing of Japan and crimes against humanity.

These are signs we've been waiting for, and I wanted to post some energy exchange in thanks for Ulli doing this great thread for us. Now a little music maestro!

Just for fun! Thanks for all you are doing, Ulli! Woo Woo! Things are moving forward now at warp speed! xoxoxoxoxoxo

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Great stuff Darla.
The whole video is a pleasure to watch...soft, yet penetrating.
I wish that everyone on Avalon would learn to balance the Woo Woo messages with the discovery of harsh, shocking realities out there the way you have done.
Like a toddler that is playing in Mummies kitchen, and then gets bored, and runs outside to explore the garden until he discovers an ugly toad...and so has to run back to Mummy in the kitchen to feel secure.
So back and forth it goes.
Life is rhythmic.

This is who awakening happens, moving between those poles.

[astrid]

Ulli, can you please briefly discuss orbs??
In the settings on astro,com, you have many options to make a chart.

One is the orb setting, you can set it lower or higher.
I have been using 70%, for some reason ( intuitive maybe??)
I will ask you about the other settings another time,
i know you are busy, i don't want to flood you.

I'm trying to make sure i have a good handle on all the basic stuff before i leap into the rabbit hole too deep.....

[Catsquotl]

Hi Astrid,

From what I gathered the orb is the space you allow before 2 planets form an aspect. Some astrologers will allow an orb of just 1 or 2 degrees. others allow an orb of up to 8 degrees
So say mars is at 0 degrees aries. and venus at 0 degrees cancer. That would be a square aspect. if you allow an orb of 2 degrees it would be a square also if venus was as 28 degrees gemini or 2 degrees cancer.

With Love
Eelco

[Jayke]

Is anyone familiar with magi astrology, apparantly it's a society that dates back to the shaolin tradition of astrology and focuses more on any of the sacred geometry angles the planets form as they create alignments...from a newbie perspective it seems to make it much more simple to learn...just wondering if anyone had any experience using this system?

http://www.magiastrology.com/first_visit.htm

[jozam]

Hi Ulli is it ok to give you my date and time ..i was born 15/11/64 my mothers not sure of the time but guesses arond 2.30pm..thankyou

I'll put you on the list...maybe you'll be lucky.
But not only did you forget to give me the coordianbtes of your birth place, you didnt even mention the nearest city.
P.S. Bansky's art is quite important for collective change to come about, but useless for transforming the individual.

Thanks Ulli Banksy is from the same city as me Bristol Uk

[astrid]

@Catsquotl thanks, i gathered the distance between planets bit, but im a bit confused as to why you would change the orb settings.
There seems to be a lot of different systems, rather than a consensus.
Like with the house systems too, a real minefield, surely your readings would be different depending on the systems you were using??

[Catsquotl]

My guess is with that each individual experiences aspects sooner or later. In increasing the orb the duration of the aspect increases. I think its a matter of preference and personal experience.
Same with houses. Although Koch and Placidus are the one's I see are the most preferred. I think just compare a few and see which gives you the best result.

For now. As I am still getting my head around the basics of planetary and sign symbology I keep the orb's small (1 degree) and the house Placidus.

WIth Love
Eelco

[ulli]

Ulli, can you please briefly discuss orbs??
In the settings on astro,com, you have many options to make a chart.

One is the orb setting, you can set it lower or higher.
I have been using 70%, for some reason ( intuitive maybe??)
I will ask you about the other settings another time,
i know you are busy, i don't want to flood you.

I'm trying to make sure i have a good handle on all the basic stuff before i leap into the rabbit hole too deep.....

Warning:
anyone not deeply into these things, don't read the below, it will only waste your time....and it really is above most people's heads.

@Astrid: Intuition is best when it comes to applying these rules. When someone has a square between two planets and the angle is 94 degrees, that means when a transit hits it doesn't hurt as much as with a person whose square is exacltly 90 degrees, as in such a case the transiting planet would activate both of the others in one single sweep.
If you have Saturn and Uranus 7 degrees apart and Mars begins a square transit, it can cause negative energy events which lie about 8 to 10 days apart, and might even become one single saga in your life.

When you first study these things it's understandable that you worry about going by the right rules, and that you make no mistake.
However, as you start doing charts and your confidence begins to grow you can simplify things...

My advice: be unrestrained as the wind....always trust your intuition.

Rules I remember vaguely: with sun and moon you allow up to 9 degrees, Mercury, Venus and Mars around 6 to 7, and the further out you go the smaller the orb.
I haven't looked at a book about these things for so long I can't remember anymore what the rules are.
Smaller orbs for quincunxes, like, 2 degrees maximum.

I have Mars and Mercury less than two degrees apart, and in the 6th house, in Aquarius.
Jupiter is currently in Taurus, and began approaching the square to my two planets in early June...just as we got the news about Bill's distancing himself from Charles. I had been one of those here who had some really weird experiences so I had invested emotionally in Charles, but after Bill's announcement was analyzing everything again, and sure enough, I became ill, exactly as the square hit my Aquarius Mars.
My husband couldn't believe it....since I had mentioned to him that a square was coming.
In previous years I had a ruptured appendix with that same event (6th house rules the intestines) this time I got a rotavirus...not much fun.
It did a lot of damage to my insides and lasted over a month until Jupiter was well clear of the square to my Ascendant as well, which is opposite the conjunction.

Now I'm wondering how might the affect have been if there was a 5 degree gap between the two planets instead of 2 degrees.
In such a case the transiting square planet might not even do anything yet, when it reaches the first square, then a few days later: wham!
when it makes a square to the Midpoint between the conjunct planets. Then nothing more when it gets to planet number two.

When you start studying these effects in your own life you will see that there are no hard and fast rules, as even the most experienced weather forecasters have learnt.
While other people fear the unknown, astrologers can be confident, yet at times have real fears that others cannot understand the cause of. Goes with the territory.
So, as you see a square approaching you become worried, especially if Pluto begins a square to your Mars...very scary...also despite knowledge re orbs, you don't exactly know on which day you'll get hit. So you have to be on guard quite a bit. This helps if you are on an awareness path.
but you will have to learn how to face some real fears, and then deal with them.

There are so many factors involved in astrology no one can compute everything.
Which is why it is called pseudo science by those who only understand mechanics.
But it raises your consciousness like nothing else, and your wonderment at the designer behind it all.

Also you find out that there is power inside yourself, which becomes evident the more you observe your inner reactions to things, and learn to maintain your inner peace and equilibrium.

[Calz]

Is anyone familiar with magi astrology, apparantly it's a society that dates back to the shaolin tradition of astrology and focuses more on any of the sacred geometry angles the planets form as they create alignments...from a newbie perspective it seems to make it much more simple to learn...just wondering if anyone had any experience using this system?

http://www.magiastrology.com/first_visit.htm

I read the book 15 years ago and found it quite interesting.

Didn't follow up and don't remember much else. Don't know if that helps or not?

[ulli]

Is anyone familiar with magi astrology, apparantly it's a society that dates back to the shaolin tradition of astrology and focuses more on any of the sacred geometry angles the planets form as they create alignments...from a newbie perspective it seems to make it much more simple to learn...just wondering if anyone had any experience using this system?

http://www.magiastrology.com/first_visit.htm


I just had a look aT the site and must confirm this is very true. Even though I have never heard of them before I have come to these same conclusions over the years, which is why I brought in the term "sacred geometry" in my earlier posts.
The first thing to do when looking at a chart is to half close your eyes and see the overall pattern, triangles, pentacles, whatever gives it a design.
I talked about this briefly about one page ago.

Another thing I feel...when a planet approaches a certain angle...it's as if a star gate begins to slide open, and the routine events of life are interrupted by whatever energies come streaming through that stargate.
Then, a while later it closes again, you feel your old self again, plus or minus what those events had done to you.
Star gate is not a term you find in astrology books, yet it makes perfect sense to use it when describing interdimensional energy exchanges.

[ulli]

Here is your reading, Nate.

You were born at the full moon, Gemini sun, Sagittarius moon.
The first thing I learnt about full moon births was this causes generation gap issues.
I checked and found it to be true for my father who was 38 when I was born (I was his first child) and he was the youngest of 6 children, and both his parents were over 40 years old. This affected his life in several ways, which I don't want to get into right now.
Subsequently I met others who also confirmed this.
Would you mind checking out how this affects you?
The moon in Sagittarius gives a yearning for far away places...
Sagittarius is the sign that says that the grass is always greener on the other side...
a saying that comes from people who were looking for the perfect picnic spot on a river bank, and then looking across the river and finding the opposite bank more appealing.
Your sun is in Gemini, the compulsive communicator, messenger of the gods. Both signs are strongly associated with motion, both are restless, both need change. Gemini is the dragon fly hopping across the surface of a lake, while sagittarius is higher up, in fact on a high horse, gallopping across the hills under a blue sky.
Mercury in Cancer in the 12th house...secret secure places where you do your reading...
Venus and Mars both in Taurus, in the 11th house with Mars forming an opposition to Uranus in the 5th
you are very community conscious, with many friends and an active networker.
The opposition with Uranus means your steadfast, solid Mars has to face some upsetting interruptions...and with Uranus in the 5th house which is associated with games, play, children, this can play out in different ways...
maybe your idealism about building a strong community gets challenged,
when you revert to childlike behaviour,
by partying too much, or even have an unexpected child,
that yanks you back to being a responsible person and following your higher call.
This knowledge I am giving you will be like a seed that can change everything, whether you agree or not.
Because you may become more aware of the risks in life as you face them, and make appropriate precautions,
sticking to your plans with more determination.
How many bright young girls when they started college with big ideas of playing a major role in society sabotaged themselves
and found themselves pregnant, because the college party scene brought their hormones into play, and which they underestimated in their effectiveness.
Then there is a trine between your sun and Pluto in Libra, and this can always be counted on to put you back on your feet...Pluto is extremely resilient, the phoenix from the ashes. Growth is ensured with this placing.
You get what you want, you can manifest your dreams quite nicely.
Just watch Uranus.

[astrid]

ok... thanks Ulli, for taking the time to explain, i think i'm getting it.

So in my chart, my sun and merc, in the 12th house, conjunct and in the same degree,
are now right on square with pluto. ( As im reading it) , so this will be stronger than if they were a few degrees apart.

Hence the one tracked, intensity i have right now for exploring things deeply, pluto, merc.

Man.. i tell you something its a bit of a shock to realize how influenced we are by these energies
and not necessarily the driver of our own bus. I guess that's the challenge and the beauty of this awareness,
to be able to look out for the potentials so you have more control in how you respond.
Rather than things catching you totally by surprise.

Mind you, I do know some Astrologers, that don't leave the house on certain days, because of certain aspects. To me that's a bit extreme??
I guess the ultimate aim is to work with the energies, whatever they might be, and not them have ownership over you.

[ulli]

Yes the square from Pluto will hit you harder because of the exactness of the conjunction.
But at the same time that conjunction has forced you until now to identify with your intellect too much, although the 12th house has injected a balancing factor via imagination.

Not leaving one's house/home on certain days is a natural reaction, even though then the planets hit you from the inside.
There is no escape.
Accidents can happen inside the house, and also inside the body and inside thinking patterns...
this journey can teach you a lot about infinity going into all directions.
Accidents are reality checks, or adjustments, they wake people out of their sleep.
Looking at it this way means you discover that these squares are beneficial.
Where previously there was self deception there is now clarity.

The square is a more brutal awakening than the opposition.
But they act as corrections of the mind.
The trines and sextiles are when great synchronicities happen and dreams come true....which is why high risk business people go to astrologers to get advice when those trines are due. Then they make their plans accordingly.
Nothing wrong with that, if their motives are pure and are designed to benefit all.

Allowing this square to hit you when you live as a hermit, not leaving the home, makes the observation easier.
You can find your inner divine source and become very realized as a result,
floating through space like a cosmic body that you are.

[ulli]

I changed my avatar....
So now ulli has a face...which makes the thread more personal.
I may remove the picture again, next time I get a paranoia attack...sigh.
For now I am feeling strong enough to show myself,
thanks to people's loving and supportive responses here.

[Catsquotl]

I changed my avatar....
So now ulli has a face...which makes the thread more personal.
I may remove the picture again, next time I get a paranoia attack...sigh.
For now I am feeling strong enough to show myself,
thanks to people's loving and supportive responses here.

You are beautiful...

With Love
Eelco

[sirac]

"if Pluto begins a square to your Mars...very scary...also despite knowledge re orbs, you don't exactly know on which day you'll get hit. So you have to be on guard quite a bit. This helps if you are on an awareness path.
but you will have to learn how to face some real fears, and then deal with them."

"Another thing I feel...when a planet approaches a certain angle...it's as if a star gate begins to slide open, and the routine events of life are interrupted by whatever energies come streaming through that stargate.
Then, a while later it closes again, you feel your old self again, plus or minus what those events had done to you.
Star gate is not a term you find in astrology books, yet it makes perfect sense to use it when describing interdimensional energy exchanges."

thank-you so much,
glad that you have introduced -star gate- exchange . and randomness of day variables, i am not focused on seeing when they hit but shifting other regularity patterns to adjust and absorb the punch.
just as u and in another one of the knowledges, i too have fears.. and immanent fears as u mean about pluto and mars... what is that by the way.. in process phase parable how does it run to see if i have accrued a fight like that in my annal.
(some people tend to think promulguation of knowledge is evil. they don't know yet the phase object i am amongst them & that i have legal writ to be here)

[ulli]

thank-you so much,
glad that you have introduced -star gate- exchange . and randomness of day variables, i am not focused on seeing when they hit but shifting other regularity patterns to adjust and absorb the punch.
just as u and in another one of the knowledges, i too have fears.. and immanent fears as u mean about pluto and mars... what is that by the way.. in process phase parable how does it run to see if i have accrued a fight like that in my annal.
(some people tend to think promulguation of knowledge is evil. they don't know yet the phase object i am amongst them & that i have legal writ to be here)

Making your own adjustments to absorb punches whenever they may hit is the ideal way to go.
But not everyone is on the same page about how to deal with life.

This path is for those who seek knowledge...and more specifically knowledge about the connection between the cosmos and the individual.
There are others who have no such need...

they just want lots of action, (Mars is the planet of action...without planning)
and even then don't want to learn anything, but just carry on being active...such are their impulses.

Then there are those who want power over others, (Pluto) and they use this knowledge ...my morality says they MISUSE this knowledge.

Pluto is bad and good, Mars is bad and good, but when they square each other the combination is potentially harmful, unless a person has a strict moral code.

Pluto is the planet of penetration, so if a person was somehow infected, taken over, possessed by a deceptive entity, they can do harm if they give in to their obsessive impulses.

If Mars is the planet that rules action, blind action without divine wisdom,
then it's influence can lead to clashes, wars, conflict, it rules iron, blood ( blood is made of iron)
also fire...

so when those elements clash, and especially via a square angle,
which opens a stargate that lets in the lower energies of Plutonic and Martian selfishness,
the person will have a hard time managing their own identity and staying on their predetermined path.

In other words, they can fall into behavior patterns that they regret later down the road.

[ulli]

I changed my avatar....
So now ulli has a face...which makes the thread more personal.
I may remove the picture again, next time I get a paranoia attack...sigh.
For now I am feeling strong enough to show myself,
thanks to people's loving and supportive responses here.

You are beautiful...

With Love
Eelco

So are you. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

With love,
ulli


P.S. E V E R Y T H I N G is in the eye of the beholder, if only they would realize it.

[ulli]

Talking of Taurus yesterday...I came across this little bit of astro info:

"Charlie Smith, over at Vancouver's Straight.com,
makes an interesting point about the omission of Adolf's birthday
in popular astrology celebrity birthday factoids.

It seems that most astrologers don't like mentioning the old dead Nazi,
but maybe there's a logical reason:

Maybe it's because commenting on the Nazi fuehrer's birthday wouldn't jive
with the following descriptions of people born on this day:

"You have tremendous resilience and fortitude and the strength of character to take on whatever comes your way.
You are strong, passionate and persistent." (Eugenia Last)

"You're a natural leader. You're dynamic, enthusiastic and interested in many things.
In your personal life you're very private. You care about your home and your family.
Obstacles simply act as a challenge to you." (Georgia Nicols)

Seems to me that if someone has the same birthday as someone as influential as Hitler,
they probably ought to be reminded of it."

Well, I never had a problem telling people my birthday was the same as Jimmy Page,
but Richard Nixon...yuk...but that was then, before I had learnt to turn every thought around...
seeing good in bad, and bad in good, before settling on a final judgement.

Which may or may not be in line with the original opinion...but at least I did my own investigation.

[dan33]

The recording was not "perfect". The cold digital authority deprived us of the harmonics. Harmonics versus sound "binary-perfect."
What do you think, in astrological terms. :)

PYozSXaA3BE

[ulli]

The recording was not "perfect". The cold digital authority deprived us of the harmonics. Harmonics versus sound "binary-perfect."
What do you think, in astrological terms. :)

PYozSXaA3BE

I don't know, Dan.

[Carmody]

Orb intensity or effectiveness can also involve for example..in my case, a triple conjunction. In that case, the effective orb for a transit to that triple conjunction can be calculated to be a bit wider.

When it comes to planets that tend to have specific actions tied to them regarding time, lets say Mars or Uranus (Uranus can sometimes involves sudden shocking change), the orb can be wide but the specific 'moment' will occur on the day of the exactness of the given transit.

As for figuring out what day you get slammed, it can also involve the orb that is prominent in the original birth chart. Let's say one has Sun Trine Mars with a 3.5 degree combining situation (meaning the alignment, when you were born was moving toward completion, not finished and separating), and then when something hits your Mars, as a transit, it may reach an initial peak of effectiveness at the 3.5 degree point, even though it will likely continue until the real peak alignment.

[Carmody]

Seems to me that if someone has the same birthday as someone as influential as Hitler,
they probably ought to be reminded of it."

Well, I never had a problem telling people my birthday was the same as Jimmy Page,
but Richard Nixon...yuk...but that was then, before I had learnt to turn every thought around...
seeing good in bad, and bad in good, before settling on a final judgment.



Hermann Goering shares a birthday with Rush Limbaugh.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/99877-stephen-harper-lies-about-his.html

Stephen Harper, Prime Minster of Canada, lies about his birthday, now that he's Prime Minister.:

Stephen Harper
The plot thickens.

--

Familypedia says he's born 20 Apr 1959 not 30 April 1959
It seems he didn't like Hitler's birthday.

Another source is the book The Pilgrimage of STEPHEN HARPER by Lloyd Mackey, Page 11
for the 20 April 1959

Time = unknown
He MIGHT have 15 aries rising
Orcus + mars opposes Saturn. I put Saturn in the 10th.

[astrid]

Ulli its lovely to see your face, it matches perfectly your warmth and generosity.

On pluto, i must say i'm really loving the depth and intenstity,
even though i image it might be making me a bit manic, socially speaking.

But its perfect for now, as i'm pretty much hermitting anyways....
Usually i'm way too spread out and extremely distractible and
my focus is shocking, its so frustrating.
Hence the ADD diagnosis.

I'm glad that these pluto transits stick around for a while,
it's going to be a very productive time.

[sandy]

I changed my avatar....
So now ulli has a face...which makes the thread more personal.
I may remove the picture again, next time I get a paranoia attack...sigh.
For now I am feeling strong enough to show myself,
thanks to people's loving and supportive responses here.

Great to be able to put a face to your being Ulli, and adding just one more dynamic to your heart felt personal touch. :)

[the_flyingboy]

i'm not hiding from anyone so i can tell you about my birth date and stuff and because i don't go much in the same post just pm what you can find thank you
26/04/1975
12:23pm saturday
sydney australia

[dan33]

What if ..analogic-sound = Venus , digital-sound = Mercury.

The digital sound came in the early eighties. Is there any connection with astrology?.
Of course you can answer "i don't know." You are the Master. :)

[ulli]

Dan...
astrology is a vast field, and I'm a general practicioner. That means I am no master...far from it.
I look at my (mostly female) clients charts and sometimes I overlap them with the charts of their spouses, and their children's charts, to give them advice about their relationships, and deepen their understanding.

My service as an astrologer is twofold: introduce to them the fact that this extraordinary system of knowledge exists,
and then address their specific questions and help them find practical answers.

The questions you are bringing up here have me baffled...
I have no clue how to wrap my mind around them.
It has never occured to me to even wonder about which planet could be associated with digital or analog sounds.

I honestly believe you are much closer to the answer than I am.

[Carmody]

What if ..analogic-sound = Venus , digital-sound = Mercury.

The digital sound came in the early eighties. Is there any connection with astrology?.
Of course you can answer "i don't know." You are the Master. :)

The first digital sound was created by TEAC corporation in 1973. It was a modification of the new 'laserdisc' by Pioneer corporation. What it was, is digital signals encoded in an FM optical format on 12 inch optical discs. (IIRC) The Philips system was a logical extension of that. Checking for the details on that, as announcements and history goes, is a good place to start. Then compare to the 1973 or thereabouts astrological ephemeris.

When looking at an ephemeris, a visual one is the better way to go. If you can find one.

Astrology can only be as good as the data that provides the reflection. Thus, history can present a problem.

When looking to define world changing events, look to the positions of the outer planets. Meaning, past earth, to mars, and beyond.

For example, in astrology, the position of Mars is tied to physicality and it's motion, it's flow. It's the closest to the outer system in Humans, not just the outer solar system. It is the physicality of the personal.

The planetary alignment you are looking for will be an outer one, obviously.

[ThePythonicCow]

The first digital sound was created by TEAC corporation in 1973. It was a modification of the new 'laserdisc' by Pioneer corporation.
Based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laserdisc (and I suspect that page is about right) Pioneer didn't get into that business until 1977. Earlier work was by done by such companies as Phillips and MCA. Pulse code modulation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-code_modulation), the common form for digital audio, was invented by Alec Reeves in 1937, and encrypted digital voice transmissions (here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-code_modulation#History)) were used by the Allies during World War II.

(I wouldn't normally have checked, except that I was briefly involved in developing laser disc technology in the early 1980's, so had more interest in your comment ;).)

[astrid]

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I know there has already been some mention of Magi Astrology in this thread.
i came across this link today, looks like a really good documentary.

Me thinks i might track down a copy.....

http://www.returnofthemagi.com/

[Calz]

I know there has already been some mention of Magi Astrology in this thread.
i came across this link today, looks like a really good documentary.

Me thinks i might track down a copy.....

http://www.returnofthemagi.com/

Okay I followed up enough to jar my memory just a bit.

The book I read (15 years ago) was written by "The Magi Society" and the title was the 1st of 3 they put out ... "Astrology Really Works!"

9234

http://www.amazon.com/Astrology-Really-Works-Magi-Society/dp/1561701343/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1312794329&sr=1-1

For what it is worth it appears all 6 amazon customers who took the time to review it gave it a perfect "5 star" rating.


It was a very interesting but different approach than traditional astrology. Here is some of the basics:





Magi Astrology Rediscovers Logic and Takes Off
The Power of Research

There are very few moments in life that are truly “Awe Inspiring.” Moments where heretofore unrealistic possibilities seem so amazingly close to your grasp are to be cherished. The first awe inspiring moment I remember as a child was when I saw a man walk on the moon. The second is when I first used a personal computer. And the third most awe inspiring moment was when I realized the power of the methods used in Magi Astrology.

I have been well schooled in traditional Astrology and am well aware of its vulnerabilities. The Magi Society did not just build a better mouse trap. They have taken Astrology into a whole new paradigm of knowledge

You say, “So, what’s different?” The answer is “PLENTY!” Magi Astrology is repeatable, verifiable and consistent. You say, “Whoa,… you are starting to get scientific.” The answer is “EXACTLY!” In fact the Magi Society has laid down a number of astrological challenges to the scientific community within the three books they have published. Guess how many scientists have accepted those challenges? If your answer was “Zero,” then you are correct. Now scientists, particularly astronomers, just love to prove Astrologers wrong. There is only one reason why no one has challenged the Magi Society. There is nothing to challenge. Magi Astrology really works.

For many years Astrology has been grouped in the Mystic or Occult sciences. The Magi Society has taken Astrology back to where it was first intended, back to being logical; Astro Logos, the logic of the heavens. And within this new logical approach is the most wonderful system of knowing.

An example of this logical approach is Magi Astrology does not rely on horoscope house systems or sun signs, rather it is based on planetary geometry and multiple planet aspects. You may ask “Why?” Because the research proves that house systems and Sun signs are limited in their effectiveness. They can only provide some assistance in areas such a personality and character. However, if you want to accurately identify specific skills, unique talents, and extraordinary abilities you must use planetary geometry.

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Marriage and Family are ruled by Chiron, Venus does not rule marriage (just the wedding itself because Venus rules ceremonies) and the 4th house in a horoscope does not rule the family.
Illusions and disillusionment are ruled by Saturn and Juno, not by Neptune.
Juno rules affairs or relationships based primarily on sex, not marriage.
Actual freedom is ruled by Chiron, the urge to be free is ruled by Uranus.
Order is ruled by Uranus, not Saturn.
Extreme largeness or things massive in size is ruled by Uranus, not Jupiter.
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Some of the other noteworthy discoveries from Magi Society research include

No astrological house system is statistically valid. The Magi Society has thoroughly tested each and every one. There is not one shred of statistical evidence of house system efficacy in determining skills, talents and abilities. Nor do house systems influence relationships and their outcomes.
Mercury retrograde in and of itself has no provably negative consequences. The concept of Mercury retrograde and it's supposed turbulent effects on all things related to Mercury has emerged into the pop culture lexicon to the point many non-astrologically inclined individuals refer to its supposed effect. Here is the good news. Mercury retrograde not negative. On the contrary, the Magi Society research reveals it is in fact most often a helpful phenomenon.
90% of all retrograde planets are beneficial influances in a chart.
Sun sign astrology at best can only give you some insight into broad characteristics and personality, but has no reliability in uncovering unique talents, skills and abilities.
Sun signs have no provable influence on relationship compatibility or longevity. It is relatively inconsequential as to what sun sign you or your friends and lovers are as it relates to the success or failure of your relationship.
Only planetary geometric alignments can reliably and accurately identify unique talents, skills and abilities of an individual.
Only the combined planetary geometry between the charts of two people can accurately reflect the nature and probable outcome of a relationship.
Exact birth times are not necessary to do competent astrology. While having an exact birth time is helpful, it is not crucial to providing accurate astrological information. Just having the exact day is sufficient.
Solar Return Charts, Solar Arc Direction Charts, Diurnal Charts, Davidson Charts, Draconian Charts and are not reliable astrological tools.
The Magi Society, by identifying and embracing astrological methodology that is provable and verifiable, and in turn rejecting traditional astrological theories that do not hold up under scrutiny, has birthed the most powerful astrological system known to man. Done correctly, Magi Astrology really does work.

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[modwiz]

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I know there has already been some mention of Magi Astrology in this thread.
i came across this link today, looks like a really good documentary.

Me thinks i might track down a copy.....

http://www.returnofthemagi.com/

OMG. It was interesting until it turned into a 'chick flick' and I dropped out.. lol. I will guess Christina got better.

[astrid]

Cool , im looking at the Uranus/ Pluto dance right now, as i was born smack on a conjuction.
Here Robert Hand elaborates on this topic.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFRYCXoegfM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K74O1RwItc&NR=1

"The Outer Planets, History and Revolution with Rob Hand

In a rare video appearance the great astrologer Rob Hand shows us what to

expect over the next few years as many planets conjunct and oppose each

other creating the environment for change and possibly even revolution."


Sorry Ulli for spamming your thread, I just thought this particular topic was pertinent to right now......


Also this article i found to be very interesting...
http://www.astrologycom.com/uranuspluto.html

"The Electrical Dance of Uranus and Pluto
The Revolutionary Cycle...

The electrical dance of revolutionary Uranus and transformative
Pluto outlines revolutionary phases in the development of human consciousness on a global scale.
We are soon to enter the next stage of this cosmic quadrille. "

[ulli]

Astrid, your contributions are most welcome...
In fact, this is what I was hoping for all along...
to have a lively group discussion.
It would also make me feel less obligated
as astrology is not my only interest
and I love browsing all sorts of other things at Avelon.

Please feel free to use this thread as your own,
and maybe others who are beginning on this path
will feel more comfortable to bring their discoveries,
as well as their questions.

[ulli]

OMG. It was interesting until it turned into a 'chick flick' and I dropped out.. lol. I will guess Christina got better.



Now now, Modwiz, chick flicks have a right to life too....it's just a marketing tool. Chicks are the bread and butter clientele of astrology.
Maybe you didn't feel yourself addressed...but that part was very short and right after they went back to the interviews.

Can you tell how this documentary continues the format used by the makers of The Secret?

[red_rose]

Hi Ulli,

Just a quick thank you for getting me interested in astrology.

I guess I never really looked into it as I never felt I resonated with Sagittarian horoscopes....then I learnt that my ascendant sign is libra and.... wow.....the horoscopes are spookily accurate.

It's so intriguing how it all works...I LOVE IT!!!

in thanks,

red_rose

[ulli]

Here is the reading for CurtisW

A true cluster, with 6 planets in Scorpio, five of them in the sixth house.
You were born right after the new moon, which adds a Cancer factor, the moon being the ruling planet Cancer, and that adds a mothering quality to your personality...softening the strong self preservation urges of Scorpio, as well as the workaholic analyzer Virgo influence the sixth house brings.

Love and relationship factors are Venus and the seventh house, and we have Venus conjunct Uranus, in the sixth, hence there are sudden breaks of relationships, but equally new ones are also formed unexpectedly, so a constant stream of friends/ women.

The seventh house shows a Mercury/ Mars conjunction in Scorpio, so partners provide intellectual information or are expected to be communicative as well as sexy.
Your Taurus Ascendant gives you a romantic streak which Scorpio is often lacking.

I'm a bit worried about your health...I have had quite a few surgeries with only four planets in the sixth house, so your situation looks worse than mine.
The are ways to lead a healthy life with a chart like yours but it is not easy, as you need to learn how to get through the tricky transits, and use their energies in a positive way, and maintain equilibrium at those times. But you really ought to stick to the healthiest diet you can find for yourself. The moon next to your sun might give you a hunger for food, when in reality it is your emotions that are hungry, not your body, and this is an important factor to consider.

I have come to believe that all physical illness is the final expression of underlying imbalance, or dis- ease...hence a lot is psychosomatic.
Diet, of course, too, and eating right is a sixth house necessity. Our bodies are very sensitive as well as our nervous systems when we have a full sixth house.
If we were cows we would know how to eat right, distinguishing healthy herbs from unhealthy ones.

At this point in my life my advice to all Scorpios is to look at the contradictions in their personalities, their extremism, and find a midpoint, no matter how hard that is, and how much it makes them feel like they are giving up their life in the process.
As a parent you are strict, having Saturn in the sixth house. If you have had several marriages and are now settled I imagine this partner is Neptunian, as Neptune is also present in your 7th house, and since there is also a natal trine to Jupiter this one should be enriching and bring you happiness.
Jupiter in opposition to your midheaven means that you may not have been clear about your profession, either overshooting your goals, or due to a strong independence streak ran into problems with the management. A person with your type of chart needs to be a free agent.
I hope you made your first million before you were 25, and that your weak health factors didnt interfere with your dreams.

[Carmody]

The first digital sound was created by TEAC corporation in 1973. It was a modification of the new 'laserdisc' by Pioneer corporation.
Based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laserdisc (and I suspect that page is about right) Pioneer didn't get into that business until 1977. Earlier work was by done by such companies as Phillips and MCA. Pulse code modulation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-code_modulation), the common form for digital audio, was invented by Alec Reeves in 1937, and encrypted digital voice transmissions (here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-code_modulation#History)) were used by the Allies during World War II.

(I wouldn't normally have checked, except that I was briefly involved in developing laser disc technology in the early 1980's, so had more interest in your comment ;).)

Maybe the Pioneer laser disc came from that. The information on the 12" optical disc with FM encoding of the digital data-stream that is correct. I wasn't sure about the connection to the Pioneer disc. It appears then that the Pioneer effort was a reflection of the Teac work.

[ulli]

Here are some general thoughts about Pluto/ Scorpio...
not thinking of anyone in particular.
As I might have mentioned before, the transformed Scorpio is the gentlest being on earth, the one to show us all how it is done.

So transformation is the key and to get rid of one's inner demons is the only worthwhile pursuit. Finding them requires self scrutiny and much self-observation.

I have always thought a lot about fanaticism, as in my earlier years I suffered from it, having been raised in Germany, a Scorpio country, where "all or nothing" is the general rule. One just has to look at their history. Hopefully the decimation of Germany and the subsequent split helped with a real rebirth, which may be worth further inquiry. I 'm going back next year for a visit to check things out.

As soon as I began to study astrology and read in the books that my moon/Pluto square, as well as my Pluto Asc conjunction meant that the fanatic was inside of
ME, MYSELF, I was deeply shocked.
Well, shock is part of awakening.

I had to learn how to catch myself in the act, as it were; not easy when you are shooting through life like a rocket.
The fanatic feels that he is on a god- given mission, that he is totally right, that his agenda must be completed at all cost, or else....the end justifies the means...
Just as the PTB are rationalyzing their agenda now...the classical psycho modum operandi.

When he loves, he loves with a passion, when he hates, he hates with a passion...all this is part of Pluto and the Taurus- Scorpio axis. This personality can easily be controlled and manipulated, and also do their own share of manipulation, with no respect for the desires and agendas of others they penetate into the sphere of life...hence their strong association with sexuality. It is the urge to procreate that is behind it, and perfecting life and playing evolution control gods while getting rid of
"lower" races was a big part of Nazi vision.

But this is no longer so when awake and aware of higher universal truths.
Then a tolerance and respect for others can come into the picture.
This is why it is so important to re-evaluate where one stands at all times and question oneself.

Scorpios see the universe as if through a telescope, in very sharp focus, so they get a close-up view, but forget that other people have a positive as well as a negative side.
Everyone is a mixture of different traits, and a mystery.
But when Scorpio love suddenly turns to extreme hate, it's because their telescope slipped a few millimeters, and they only see the other person's weaker side, and all
they perceive at that point is that the person is evil, when in reality they are just as they were before... a mix of good and evil, having behaved in a disagreeable manner...
IOW, they are humans, just like before the slip- up.
Yet the fanatic mentality thinks that he has perceived something satanic, and ultimately threatening, and so has to find defenses and sometimes even
acts with destructive force.
But as I said, these are general thoughts and not aimed at any Scorpios in particular.

[ulli]

Hi Ulli,

Just a quick thank you for getting me interested in astrology.

I guess I never really looked into it as I never felt I resonated with Sagittarian horoscopes....then I learnt that my ascendant sign is libra and.... wow.....the horoscopes are spookily accurate.

It's so intriguing how it all works...I LOVE IT!!!

in thanks,

red_rose

Thank you red_ rose, this made my day.

I am getting people to find their own fish, so I can now rest on my laurels, and be lazy, YAY!

Actually, truth is I'm loving the learning part of teaching....

[Calz]

ulli:


I am getting people to find their own fish, so I can now rest on my laurels, and be lazy, YAY!

:ballchain:
.
:boink:
.
:fish:
.
:fish2:
.
:bolt:
.

:angel:

ulli ... all kidding aside ... you have given yourself freely and graciously to enlighten us avalon nuggets as to the way of the stars.

I expect I can speak for at least a few others in thanking you!!!

:thank_you2:

[Curt]

Here is the reading for CurtisW

A true cluster, with 6 planets in Scorpio, five of them in the sixth house.
You were born right after the new moon, which adds a Cancer factor, the moon being the ruling planet Cancer, and that adds a mothering quality to your personality...softening the strong self preservation urges of Scorpio, as well as the workaholic analyzer Virgo influence the sixth house brings.

Love and relationship factors are Venus and the seventh house, and we have Venus conjunct Uranus, in the sixth, hence there are sudden breaks of relationships, but equally new ones are also formed unexpectedly, so a constant stream of friends/ women.

The seventh house shows a Mercury/ Mars conjunction in Scorpio, so partners provide intellectual information or are expected to be communicative as well as sexy.
Your Taurus Ascendant gives you a romantic streak which Scorpio is often lacking.

I'm a bit worried about your health...I have had quite a few surgeries with only four planets in the sixth house, so your situation looks worse than mine.
The are ways to lead a healthy life with a chart like yours but it is not easy, as you need to learn how to get through the tricky transits, and use their energies in a positive way, and maintain equilibrium at those times. But you really ought to stick to the healthiest diet you can find for yourself. The moon next to your sun might give you a hunger for food, when in reality it is your emotions that are hungry, not your body, and this is an important factor to consider.

I have come to believe that all physical illness is the final expression of underlying imbalance, or dis- ease...hence a lot is psychosomatic.
Diet, of course, too, and eating right is a sixth house necessity. Our bodies are very sensitive as well as our nervous systems when we have a full sixth house.
If we were cows we would know how to eat right, distinguishing healthy herbs from unhealthy ones.

At this point in my life my advice to all Scorpios is to look at the contradictions in their personalities, their extremism, and find a midpoint, no matter how hard that is, and how much it makes them feel like they are giving up their life in the process.
As a parent you are strict, having Saturn in the sixth house. If you have had several marriages and are now settled I imagine this partner is Neptunian, as Neptune is also present in your 7th house, and since there is also a natal trine to Jupiter this one should be enriching and bring you happiness.
Jupiter in opposition to your midheaven means that you may not have been clear about your profession, either overshooting your goals, or due to a strong independence streak ran into problems with the management. A person with your type of chart needs to be a free agent.
I hope you made your first million before you were 25, and that your weak health factors didnt interfere with your dreams.

Thanks very much for this, Ulli. You're right about my personal relationships--lots of sudden ends and new beginnings. And as regards love, absolutely correct that it's important for me to have physical and intellectual attraction at the same time. My wife is a literally a brain scientist.... and very cute.

You're also right about the diet and health concerns. I've always said that I'm fine as long as I'm eating very well and getting lots of exercise--otherwise I'm a mess. I need to be way more careful of this than most people I know. This is difficult as I also have strong urges to drink hard and eat well and enjoy all of the creature comforts to excess.

As regards career, you're dead on right. I have had a recent pole shift with this, and have abandoned a previous career which wasn't ever really right for me in favor of taking to the pen to write. And you're right about my view of 'management.' I don't do bosses... I cannot stand the idea of submitting myself to another person's authority. This heretical trait has been present since I was in utero, and has baffled and befuddled many a teacher, friend, boss, relative, etc. I'm Irish on top of it, so just smiling and following what people tell me I should isn't ever going to be in the cards. Although, to mitigate this, I am trying to find a work situation where I can be independent and creative.

My health is still very much a concern, and I have been working hard to eat healthy and get into shape--and have been successful with this in the last few months.

As far as building wealth, I have not done so. Lots of stops and starts. Health has been a factor, as has a deeply rooted sense that I was on the wrong track and didn't want to get stuck or comfortable there. Had a horrific childhood which has hamstrung me to a significant extent. I am very happy to report that the influence of this childhood trauma is waning by the second. Perhaps my Scorpio Sun or Taurus Ascendant had led me to fix on these past injustices and either pick the scab or ruminate on them depending which animal one wishes to choose for the metaphor.

Your point about the general power dynamic of the Scorpio in relationship to others is apt. We can manipulate easily, but due to our laser-beam focus on things we can often be manipulated ourselves. And to make matters worse, if our ego's aren't as healthy as they should be, it is hard for us to see or to admit we're so easily used which compounds the problem and delays healthy resolution of the dynamic.

I think, too, that we are more prone to abuse by lower energies as we have a keen interest in lower chakra activities.... But perhaps the payoff for being the standard bearer for such energies is great...Maybe the transformation is more satisfying if and when it happens....I don't know as I haven't achieved it, but perhaps I will..

Thanks very much for this, Ulli. It is greatly appreciated.

[ulli]

Thanks Calz! :)

I'm busy putting out the flames in London right now
carrying buckets...
so much for my plans of putting my feet up.

Lets send them some strong showers...
people are scared and that kind of fear is what the PTB feed on...
then use it to clamp down ever harder on the world.
It shan't happen!

[ulli]

@ CurtisW

Perhaps my Scorpio Sun or Taurus Moon had led me to fix on these past injustices

you have sun AND moon in Scorpio...
and Taurus Ascendant.

Drum this into your head until you remember it like your own name.
Step one of learning astrology.
So, all in all your wife will keep you on track.

As they say, behind every successful man is a surprised woman.
Just study where the planets are at a given time...

when Mars goes into Scorpio in October you are in for a ride, for a while...
knowing about these times is half the battle won.

[Curt]

@ CurtisW

Perhaps my Scorpio Sun or Taurus Moon had led me to fix on these past injustices

you have sun AND moon in Scorpio...
and Taurus Ascendant.

Drum this into your head until you remember it like your own name.
Step one of learning astrology.
So, all in all your wife will keep you on track.

As they say, behind every successful man is a surprised woman.
Just study where the planets are at a given time...

when Mars goes into Scorpio in October you are in for a ride, for a while...
knowing about these times is half the battle won.

Whoops! That slipped by me. I meant Taurus Ascendant Thanks again...

[Jayke]

OMG. It was interesting until it turned into a 'chick flick' and I dropped out.. lol. I will guess Christina got better.



Now now, Modwiz, chick flicks have a right to life too....it's just a marketing tool. Chicks are the bread and butter clientele of astrology.
Maybe you didn't feel yourself addressed...but that part was very short and right after they went back to the interviews.

Can you tell how this documentary continues the format used by the makers of The Secret?

That part of the video made me laugh...the old bearded man preying on the young vulnerable woman, he walks over holds his hand out then all of a sudden she's taking a seminar and doing tai chi with the old fella...that must have been one hell of a chat up line lol in all seriousness though the video was actually pretty great, I definitely feel I should study with the magi society at some point, I resonate alot with their perspective on things...

On the other link astrid provided there was another short trailer with various astrologers making short statements...one guy mentioned how astrology comes from the words 'astro' and 'logos' meaning the stars speak, combined with what you were saying about aspects creating stargates and how it's all just an interplay of energy it reminded me of something I picked up while studying the Greek mystery schools.

From observing the shapes found in nature they believed that the universe was made out of 5 sacred shapes of geometry: sphere, cross, cube (square), spiral and the 5 pointed star. From these 5 shapes they discerned 5 laws of nature: Abundance, selection, assimilation, preservation and active contribution. These laws of nature manifested themselves in their motto for the Olympic games: Citius, Altius, Fortius, Socius, Moneta translated to mean swifter, higher, stronger, relationships and trust (money). Trust was symbolised using salt and to be paid a salary was to be worth ones salt. Later salt was replaced by gold since gold is the only substance that becomes purer when it's melted down and solidified again. And so gold became the symbol for the monetary economic system of the world. anyway...

The interpretations of the 5 different variables they believed were based on an understanding that was passed down to them from knowledge preserved from the Gods of Egypt. they understood that light existed in a wave or vibration and as light phased in and out of reality it went through 5 different discernible stages of progression:

Lumen = Light that radiates into creation from an illuminated source
Lux = The strength or intensity of any particular unit of illumination
Flux = Regulates the flow, movement and continuous change with which light manifests.
Nux = Seed or core element of divine power
Numen = The light of the genes that changes perception, the guiding principle that commands divine power from creation back into spirit.

The Lumen and the Numen are the two way flow of energy between spirit and matter manifesting as stars and blackholes...One pulls information in, the other radiates information out.
The reason this caught my eye is because in astrology we have:
1. Elements = Lumen = energy being emitted from various source.
2. Signs = Lux = the variable quality or brightness of light from one sign to the next.
3. Planets = Flux = regulates the flow and movement of energy within the system.
4. Houses = Numen = how light manifests and is filtered through each individuals perception and experience of reality.
5. Aspects = Nux = the seed or energy of one planet when transferred and implanted into another.

I'm still working on piecing it all together but it seems to be an interesting foundation to work from at least...

PS I have Mars and Pluto in scorpio opposing my sun and moon in Tauras, sounds like come October I'm going to be in for a few treats :)

[beyondmyctrl]

Hi Ulli, I have a question, I'm sorry if this has been asked before but I just found this thread and @ 23 pages it'll take me a bit to get through it :) I heard once that if you don't have your precise time of birth there is a way that a good astrologer can find it for you by knowing key moments in your life or something like that but I can't remember what it's called I'd really like to find out what time I was born so that I can have a precise chart done. I seem to remember my mother telling me something like 5 :30 am but I can't remember for sure and she has passed away now and my father doesn't remember lol ! couldn't find any records at the hospital ( what am I, Obama ? ) anyway, I was just wondering if you know anything about this , if it has any value, or if I should just forget about trying. Thanks :)

[Calz]

There are ways of "rectifying a chart" to come up with a "guess-timate" of the time of birth.

Not ulli ... and not an expert on the subject ... but yes it can be done.

[ulli]

OMG. It was interesting until it turned into a 'chick flick' and I dropped out.. lol. I will guess Christina got better.



The interpretations of the 5 different variables they believed were based on an understanding that was passed down to them from knowledge preserved from the Gods of Egypt. they understood that light existed in a wave or vibration and as light phased in and out of reality it went through 5 different discernible stages of progression:

Lumen = Light that radiates into creation from an illuminated source
Lux = The strength or intensity of any particular unit of illumination
Flux = Regulates the flow, movement and continuous change with which light manifests.
Nux = Seed or core element of divine power
Numen = The light of the genes that changes perception, the guiding principle that commands divine power from creation back into spirit.



So if we had a hexagon then there would have been one extra stage and that was called "the crux"? ;)

This is fun stuff, interchanging n and x...
ulli, in a mirthful mood, all of a sudden.
Let humor return to all he-arts.

[ulli]

There are ways of "rectifying a chart" to come up with a "guess-timate" of the time of birth.

Not ulli ... and not an expert on the subject ... but yes it can be done.

Yes, it can be done, and I don't quite know how, but since I have worked so much with angles I still found a lot of info there, anyway, enough to give a decent reading.
One can never see it all, and most people are very happy to just get three or four spot-on truths from a reading.
If they have never had a reading before it can shatter their world.

Doing a rectification is a lot of work. Some people use the pendulum, asking for yes and no answers as they divine the point of the Ascendant...so it is time consuming.
The other day I was reading about this on a forum of top astrologers where they were in an intense argument about this.
One even called it a wrecktification.

[Calz]

There are ways of "rectifying a chart" to come up with a "guess-timate" of the time of birth.

Not ulli ... and not an expert on the subject ... but yes it can be done.

Yes, it can be done, and I don't quite know how, but since I have worked so much with angles I still found a lot of info there, anyway, enough to give a decent reading.
One can never see it all, and most people are very happy to just get three or four spot-on truths from a reading.
If they have never had a reading before it can shatter their world.

Doing a rectification is a lot of work. Some people use the pendulum, asking for yes and no answers as they divine the point of the Ascendant...so it is time consuming.
The other day I was reading about this on a forum of top astrologers where they were in an intense argument about this.
One even called it a wrecktification.

Yes ... those that are best are highly psychic so it is not necessarily something to be expected of an astrologer.

What little I understand is you need some real details about the person and the houses can then be aligned to make the most sense of it (aside from sheer psychic input on the birthtime data). Planets don't move much in the course of one day ... moon the most. House system revolves completely around the wheel in one day and there is the rub.

[ulli]

I posted this on the London riots page, where someone had asked what was behind all the turbulence..

Even though some of the links above address the Uranus Pluto square, those articles are rather long.

"There was a planetary stress situation in the sixties, which is now happening again for the first time since then.

It's called the Uranus Pluto square.

The planet of rebellion is Uranus, and since March 11th of this year Uranus has been in Aries,

a fire sign, and therefore very excitable.

The explosiveness of the Uranus dynamite stick is being ignited by the flame of Aries,

and at the same time being oppressed by Pluto, which is associated by the control sign Scorpio.

Pluto has entered Capricorn in 2008, signalling the financial crisis.

Capricorn is the sign of established authority and wealth.

The right angle means these two very opposite energies are now clashing,

rebellion versus establishment, and due to the two signs involved

the clashes will be even further reaching than the student revolution of the sixties."

Who will have the last word? As always, the people.

[Carmody]

There are ways of "rectifying a chart" to come up with a "guess-timate" of the time of birth.

Not ulli ... and not an expert on the subject ... but yes it can be done.

Yes, it can be done, and I don't quite know how, but since I have worked so much with angles I still found a lot of info there, anyway, enough to give a decent reading.
One can never see it all, and most people are very happy to just get three or four spot-on truths from a reading.
If they have never had a reading before it can shatter their world.

Doing a rectification is a lot of work. Some people use the pendulum, asking for yes and no answers as they divine the point of the Ascendant...so it is time consuming.
The other day I was reading about this on a forum of top astrologers where they were in an intense argument about this.
One even called it a wrecktification.

part of the best way, IIRC, it to find Uranian and mars moments, and then ask the person what happened to them at those times in their life, if an event occurred and what the exact moment of time of the event was. Get a few together and it can become much clearer.

This is a tedious process that is open to interpretation of the results and to the quality of the questioning and logic applied. Nevertheless, it can be done. Alas, it is far from a simple thing, it involves much experience and a desire to persevere.

As well, the given chart can create it's own issues, via the given planetary alignments which might cause confusion in the looked for events.

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I posted this on the London riots page, where someone had asked what was behind all the turbulence..

Even though some of the links above address the Uranus Pluto square, those articles are rather long.

"There was a planetary stress situation in the sixties, which is now happening again for the first time since then.

It's called the Uranus Pluto square.

The planet of rebellion is Uranus, and since March 11th of this year Uranus has been in Aries,

a fire sign, and therefore very excitable.

The explosiveness of the Uranus dynamite stick is being ignited by the flame of Aries,

and at the same time being oppressed by Pluto, which is associated by the control sign Scorpio.

Pluto has entered Capricorn in 2008, signalling the financial crisis.

Capricorn is the sign of established authority and wealth.

The right angle means these two very opposite energies are now clashing,

rebellion versus establishment, and due to the two signs involved

the clashes will be even further reaching than the student revolution of the sixties."

Who will have the last word? As always, the people.

Like a series of birth contractions, these new ones are further into the process, so there is no doubt that they will be more intense and likely take shape as far as directions go.. in a shorter period of time than the ones in the 1960's.

[ulli]

Right now we have an exact square...Mars in Cancer and Uranus in Aries.
Cancer is home, Mars is Fire. And England is an Aries country. And Uranus rules rebellion, since March 11th in Aries.
It wouldn't surprise me if those middle eastern countries aren't also Aries.
Aries and Mars means men rule.

Then the square formed by Uranus and Pluto, now 91 degrees apart, closing in on 90, both planets are now retrograding, Uranus moves faster than Pluto...I need the other computer to check on the exact date when this will happen, so I'll let you know later.

A couple of things about Mars....
You can't start anything without Mars, he is an ignition planet. The initiator.

But he never stops by himself...
his fire burns until some Neptunian wave extinguishes him,
or some heavy Saturnian earth gets dumped on his flames, which will happen on August 25th, when the moon joins him, and together they meet the square aspect from Saturn in Libra.

Until then things will still be volatile, I think. On August 12th we will have Mars opposite Pluto in Capricorn, which is power, force, the kind of force the government will impose.
But this will only cause the violent elements to regroup, or go underground.
Then the next day, on August 13th there is a Venus Sun conjunction, giving an opportunity to those who have been negociating for peaceful settlements, the beginning of stabilization.

[dan33]

What if ..analogic-sound = Venus , digital-sound = Mercury.

The digital sound came in the early eighties. Is there any connection with astrology?.
Of course you can answer "i don't know." You are the Master. :)

The first digital sound was created by TEAC corporation in 1973. It was a modification of the new 'laserdisc' by Pioneer corporation. What it was, is digital signals encoded in an FM optical format on 12 inch optical discs. (IIRC) The Philips system was a logical extension of that. Checking for the details on that, as announcements and history goes, is a good place to start. Then compare to the 1973 or thereabouts astrological ephemeris.

When looking at an ephemeris, a visual one is the better way to go. If you can find one.

Astrology can only be as good as the data that provides the reflection. Thus, history can present a problem.

When looking to define world changing events, look to the positions of the outer planets. Meaning, past earth, to mars, and beyond.

For example, in astrology, the position of Mars is tied to physicality and it's motion, it's flow. It's the closest to the outer system in Humans, not just the outer solar system. It is the physicality of the personal.

The planetary alignment you are looking for will be an outer one, obviously.

Wow! Thanks a lot!

[dan33]

Dan...
I honestly believe you are much closer to the answer than I am.

Thanks... but i don't think so ;)

[dan33]

The first digital sound was created by TEAC corporation in 1973. It was a modification of the new 'laserdisc' by Pioneer corporation.
Based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laserdisc (and I suspect that page is about right) Pioneer didn't get into that business until 1977. Earlier work was by done by such companies as Phillips and MCA. Pulse code modulation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-code_modulation), the common form for digital audio, was invented by Alec Reeves in 1937, and encrypted digital voice transmissions (here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-code_modulation#History)) were used by the Allies during World War II.

(I wouldn't normally have checked, except that I was briefly involved in developing laser disc technology in the early 1980's, so had more interest in your comment ;).)


Hi Paul

all my laser discs are obsolete.

ha.... thanks!

[ulli]

Here is your reading, Modwiz

The general picture shows a nicely balanced chart, with only two conjunctions, Saturn and Neptune which lasted through much of that year and is shared by many, Both in Libra and in the 11th house, and a Venus/Mars conjunction in Pisces in the 4th house.
Ascendant Scorpio means strong physical stamina, perseverance, but also urges that want instant fullfilment during the earlier part of life until they are harnessed.
The sun in Aquarius, original, inventive, self- willed...in general the Aquarian impulse is not to be a sheep, but distinguish the self, insisting on their uniqueness.

But as long as that impulse is unconscious it can manifest in a way of simply being out of sync with others, and although Aquarians are sweeties and make really good friends they also can drive people insane, as their first knee jerk action is to be uncooperative.
Probably all the above has long been transmuted in yourself; I can tell from your picture as well as your posts that you have had some time to get to know your own being.
Still some reactions are so fast, so instant, that it's hard to catch oneself.
The moon in Gemini gives more speed to the person, reactions and responses are very quick. Nearly glib. In the 7th house indicates partnerships go through phases, just as the moon does.
Mercury in Capricorn in the second, ability to think logically and plan. Strategist. In the second house means finances and income ar cared for, and kept in an orderly manner.
Venus and Mars in Pisces in the 4th house...Venus in Pisces is exalted, due to Pisces being a sign of selfless giving, conjunct Mars means the added impulsiveness from Mars can lead to many acts of self sacrifice, possibly allowing oneself to be exploited by parasitical people...and since it is in the fourth house, which is family, this can give an idea which direction that need is coming from.
Jupiter in Taurus in the 6th...there is a love of material things, yet in the 6th house which is ruled by Virgo, can switch to it's opposite and the person lives a monk like existence.
I have known someone with this placing giving up a huge mansion in the US to go and spend the last thirty years of his life living amongst an indigenous tribe in the Panamanian jungle.
Saturn and Neptune in the 11th, instant need to take artistic inspiration and ground it to the 3D earth plane...the 11th house here indicates friendships a sought with spiritual and mature people, also offering leadership of that nature at a community level.
Uranus in Cancer in the 8th, home changes, unusual home conditions (we know that one) and financial ups and downs. Pluto in Leo in the ninth...transformation through travel and higher learning.
Pluto gives an idea where one is most intense, most engaged, and the ninth house is the realm of the seeker. I had some other charts which had that placing here, and maybe ought to stress that this could be a factor that brought the person to Avalon.
Healthwise no problems...Jupiter in the sixth gives normally good health. The only square of any significance is perhaps the square between Saturn and your Capricorn Mercury, which can give a tendency to melancholy, but also great focus when thinking is directed properly, in which case it will lead to great insights.

[modwiz]

Thank you so much Ulli. I look forward to allowing this information to sink in and assimilate better before any further queries. This thread, and all of the contributions from others complimenting yours has been a source of higher/good vibrations at Avalon since the first post. A little 'family' has formed here and the whole site is resonating with some purpose.

Now, to get this to ripple outward.

[Avocadess]

What disturbs me most about the riots and fires in the UK (besides that they have been happening at all) is the response of law enforcement -- saying that they need to bring in more heavy artillery to deal with the crowds. I would take a TOTALLY different tack -- bring in PA systems and play loud harmonizing music, and bring in food and other necessities for the people, as well as a large contingent of diplomats to start talks where people have stopped to listen or dance to music or eat food. Maybe I'm all wet, but I simply do NOT see bringing in heavy military as a positive response; and just another way for the "authorities" to lock down further on people. From the U.S. I have been sending love, light and harmony vibes over there...

I don't know. I just feel that dealing with people who have gone over the brink it is best to treat them like loved children and try to help them out of that mindspace... I remember when there was going to be a riot in Chicago many years ago and the police were actually picking a fight with the crowd. Allen Ginsberg got up and starting humming AUMMMMMMMM into the microphone. The crowd responded with AUMMMMMM....and no violence broke out...!

[Simone]

Hi Ulli, what a cool thread this is, so interesting!! :)

Please would you mind doing a reading for my son and I?

I was born 1st July 1982 at 4pm

My son was born 12th Sept 2006 at 9.25pm

Thank you :)

Simone xx

[ulli]

What disturbs me most about the riots and fires in the UK (besides that they have been happening at all) is the response of law enforcement -- saying that they need to bring in more heavy artillery to deal with the crowds. I would take a TOTALLY different tack -- bring in PA systems and play loud harmonizing music, and bring in food and other necessities for the people, as well as a large contingent of diplomats to start talks where people have stopped to listen or dance to music or eat food. Maybe I'm all wet, but I simply do NOT see bringing in heavy military as a positive response; and just another way for the "authorities" to lock down further on people. From the U.S. I have been sending love, light and harmony vibes over there...

I don't know. I just feel that dealing with people who have gone over the brink it is best to treat them like loved children and try to help them out of that mindspace... I remember when there was going to be a riot in Chicago many years ago and the police were actually picking a fight with the crowd. Allen Ginsberg got up and starting humming AUMMMMMMMM into the microphone. The crowd responded with AUMMMMMM....and no violence broke out...!

You have my vote for a seat on the coming World Government.
I'll even help your campaign.

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Hi Ulli, what a cool thread this is, so interesting!! :)

Please would you mind doing a reading for my son and I?

I was born 1st July 1982 at 4pm

My son was born 12th Sept 2006 at 9.25pm

Thank you :)

Simone xx

I need more than just a date and time. Check my signature.

[ulli]

Here is your reading, Black Panther

After going to your profile page I saw your art, and only afterwards set up your chart.

Well, the full third house confirmed your drawing talent, but also writing ability.
A real illustrator.
Ascendant in Cancer: you are shy and like to be taken care of, but also like to take care of others.

Venus rising in the first, also in Cancer, adds attractiveness to your personality, perhaps also good looks,...
in fact, people probably find you irrisitible.
The moon in Leo shows a well defined ego, ability for leadership, practical, but also can become snippy when hurt.
Sometimes you appear proud and conceited. On the whole gives a cheerful disposition.
Moon in the second house means finances could fluctuate, just like the moon,
which goes from near invisible to being a big bright light.
At times purchases are made driven by emotions, which are supposed to enhance your status, (Leo)
despite your normal Virgo self restraint.

Sun in Virgo in the 3rd house...you are analytical, seek knowledge, want to be informed,
sometimes overly critical, and when trying to control this you are in danger of being too self-critical.
Just learn to say sorry, and move on. Explaining and rationalizing only helps to alienate others further.
The thing about Virgo is that they cannot help but see the flaw,
their perception is so astute. So they have to stay busy at all times, cleaning up messes..
in order to maintain the environment tidy enough so they can operate.
Or expect their partner to maintain the house clean for them.

Venus on the other hand, is often lazy, and since Venus was on your Ascendant
it indicates that sometimes you do know when to cool it a bit.
But you might suffer, as you are often plagued by guilt feelings.

Mars in Scorpio, in the 4th house...this can give you tremendous perseverance...
expending energy in your home, maybe do-it-yourself work, fixing stuff.
Battles are contained mostly within the ranks of family members.
It would be good to practise some form of martial art, to help vent those energies.

Jupiter in Virgo, next to the sun, in the third,
Jupiter being the planet of sagittarius can sometimes be associated with sloppiness,
yet with your placing you would find it adds to the vision needed for expressing your art.
Jupiter is the planet of distant travel, but in the third house indicates the travel writer.

Saturn, is as mentioned before, the planet of restriction.
The position opposite the Midheaven (Midheaven indicates profession, career)
gives added ambition about your objectives, but at the same time obstacles at every turn.
This only makes you more determined to excel, until one day you get there.

Uranus in Scorpio in the 5th...children come as a surprise,
also become major inspiration for you...never a dull moment there.
Neptune in Sagittarius in the 5th house...this adds more of a playful streak to your art...
5th house is art and children, and play and creativity,
so both Uranus and Neptune there will make sure that you never run out of ideas.

Pluto in Libra in the 4th house...your home is an extention of yourself,
and you feel intensely about how you express yourself there.
Childhood was somewhat extreme, due to you having been very gifted,
and perhaps either had a hard time getting one or both parents to accept that,
or you always wanted to turn their house upside down.

Sometimes you suffer from mental blocks, or writers block.
Need to go easy on yourself when that happens.
Study astrology!!

[onawah]

I thought this might be of interest:
From Earth-Keeper.com
In This Newsletter
Solar Storms and A Poweful Full Moon - Get Ready
Astrological Aspects
An Intensely Powerful Weekend
The Perseids Meteor Shower reaches its peak on August 13th. It's a time to 'Get Real'

This full moon is extraordinary to many signs. And all the energy waves cascading into the Earth amplify the forces. The solar winds, the meteor shower, the Mercury Retrograde and interesting planetary angles make for a potentially volatile combination. Just look at the crashing of the stock markets, government deadlocks, riots in Britain and continuing issues in the Middle East. Its a time of release.

The full moon in Aquarius opposes a Sun, Venus, Mercury conjunction in Leo. Since moon in Aquarius often represents the rebellious, wild, irrational, and unpredictable, it is essential for us to remain balanced. Yet within this exterior turmoil, is also a time for deep introspection in Neptune and Pluto influence. The 'house clearing' of release in relationships that began in late May and continued through June and July's eclipses is still ongoing, reaching its finale. Time to get honest clarity in relationships, review the truth that actions speak louder than words. Truth is revealed in the equity & inequity of 'takers & givers', manipulators and straight-shooters. It is a uniquely empowered energy in which to let go of attachments that do not serve. Change the 'agreement' in relationships that are one-sided or false. It is a time of sabbatical, to release relationships that are pseudo, unbalanced, one-way or outgrown.

The silver-lining of this intense 'energetic cocktail' , is that it amplifies an opportunity for focused introspection and clarity. There is available a revealing light in this moon that brings into view previously subtle & hidden aspects that were previously difficult to see. A time to remove obstacles.

Mid August 2011 - Full Moon (Aug 13) -A Time for Release:

Dorothy Morgan Astrology

UTube Link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UChhqlFdXBA

Astro Update

Forwarded by Naomi Stauber

http://www.thepowerpath.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=375:full-moon-update-8-10-11&catid=41:moon-updates&Itemid=122


aquarius_full_moon_penumbral_lunar_eclipse_august_2009_spiritual_evolution

Dear Friends,

The full moon is Saturday, August 13 at 12:58 PM Mountain Daylight Time. This is a day for gratitude, gratitude and more gratitude. This may be challenging if you are in a place of being challenged. Trust that gratitude is the best antidote for feeling small, limited, insignificant and irritated. There are heavy influences now that are bringing out aggressive behaviors and reactionary activity in others. You yourself may be feeling a bit off and not know why. Don't take anything personally and spend some time in awareness exercises and being present. Make yourself energetically available to something wonderful landing in your lap without planning, effort or obsession. In this way you move your attention away from what might be wrong and towards what you are creating that is right. And stay away from those who do not support you.

Blessings, Lena




ASTROLOGICAL NOTES:
Written by Patricia Liles. Contact her at PATLILES@aol.com
Full Moon in Aquarius ~ Sun in Leo 20º
Saturday, Aug. 13, 2011, 12:59 PM MDT

The revolutionary underbelly of Aquarius is rearing its head as we head into the Full Moon period. Uranus and Pluto are squared off within a degree of each other and computer homepages are perfectly reflecting the energy. As Aquarius' ruler, Uranian energy is central to the collective archetype being played out. At this moment, revolt is hot and violent in the streets of London. Reflecting Pluto's part in the social dance, American economic stability is being rocked by plunging stock market values as she experiences her eighth Saturn return. Corporations are scoring big and democracy is barely in the game as they quarrel over who's the captain of the team.

What's not very apparent is that transiting Mars (planet of physical action, vitality, passion, and assertiveness) is now activating the Uranus-Pluto square (Aug 9-10). Mars, God of War, is intensifying, inflaming, and aggravating the energies of Uranus in Aries (ruled by Mars and representing young men, soldiers, and the police or anything to do with fire). We are also being bombarded with multiple solar flares and coronal mass ejections that are impacting our magnetic fields and ultimately our planetary body and physical body triggering large scale evolution shift and movement. Multiple websites are chronicling the manifestation of physical symptoms: increased earth movement, hurricanes, winds and volcanic action as well as increased headaches, stomach heat, worry, anxiety, fear. It almost feels like old patterns are being pulled right out of the bones. As we experience this powerful time of change, we also experience the personal challenges related to the creative cycle. Destruction is very much a part of creating, yet the body and mind are not all that comfortable with change and are slow to embrace it and let go and trust the flow towards the new. Do what you can to practice change. Move by choice into something unfamiliar and not your usual. Shake it up! Take a road trip. Embrace what you wouldn't normally engage. Let the old forms go. If one moves towards change and the unknown, it is less likely to come as a painful, unexpected slam. (Maybe).

Most prominent configuration in this chart is the Pluto-Uranus square (5º Capricorn-4ºAries). Mars at 6º Cancer opposes Pluto and squares Uranus forming a T-Square with plenty of tension fueling our desire to bust loose from what holds us in the old-mold rut. Juno, gracious goddess of partnership at 5º Libra, fills the final position to create a Grand Square with Pluto, Uranus and Mars. This is the refining energy we need to channel this powerhouse of energy into our partnerships and relationships clearing the energy for new life to enter where deadness and stagnation is buried. We may witness or experience the conflict between individual needs and relationship needs. Juno brings the desire for respect and equality into all relationship and she doesn't hesitate to bring up imbalances of power and injustice. She is the champion of the powerless and she is engaging the big dogs - Pluto, Uranus, and Mars to insure her relationships needs are heard at the personal and social levels. A Grand Square (or Cross) especially in cardinal signs as we have here needs to place these mega energies into new avenues of expression. New identity is budding. Here is the opportunity to create in new ways focused on the Leo-Aquarian principles of an evolved individual contributing to the universal cooperation within the social group. We are stepping into a time of creating in an expanded, multidimensional way where our thought forms can manifest our dream effortlessly and quickly. We all have had the experience recently of having an idea and ping! it manifests quicker than we thought possible. That's the direction we are heading towards. There is no holding this energy from spiraling to the next level of evolution; there is only resistance.

A beautiful Mystic Rectangle is also formed in the chart involving the Leo Sun opposite Aquarius Moon and sextiled (benevolent aspect) the North and South Nodes in Sagittarius-Gemini. Significant. It's linked to the Grand Square through midpoints and can find release for expression there. The Mystic Rectangle formed by trines and sextile aspects generally has the connotation of very practical and constructive action. Yes! Get a clear bead on your unique essence and give your gifts to the best of your ability.

I hate to even bring this up, being subtle and considered minor, except that it is focused exactly on the Full Moon at 20º so one must consider it. Suffice it to say that (this is a mouthful) the sesquiquadrate/square/sesquiquadrate formation which forms a kind of triangle with the apex at the Moon has the connotation of actualizing oneself and represents the yearning "to express one's internal awareness of self externally, within the social sphere." according to Michael R. Meyer. It just emphasizes the need to let our essences speak through our hearts and aim high. "Hold your heart high" as my daughter likes to say. Personal integrity and remembering our dream matter so much now as we participate in this evolution of the soul.

08/26 Mercury goes direct
08/28 New Moon 9:04 PM MDT
09/12 Full Moon 3:27 AM MDT

[Black Panther]

Hi Ulli,

Thank you very much! I will take a look at it again. The thing is, I'm going on a one week vacation to France tomorrow morning. No computers, no mobile phones. Just being in nature. So I will comment later.

[ulli]

Thanks for that article, Onawah.
I don't know Patricia Liles, and must admit I have not kept up much with reading what other astrologers are saying, or what style is fashionable to express the more intricate stuff.
If spend most of my time waiting for disclosure and Elenin NOT to happen.
But that last paragraph made me laugh out loud.
Anyone who does not know what a sesquiquadrate is might be put off studying this glorious art.
But I'll do as she says, thus fulfilling the prophecy.
Without putting my foot in my mouth I will take my heart into my hands and hold it high.;)

[Carmody]

A little known fact about how relevant astrology is in this world.

What it means. What it is connected to.

How tied it is to the underlying fabric of reality, time, space, all of it.

The yield of atomic weapons was all over the map, when they did their tests. Remember, the number of tests was in the near thousands. they did them in all kinds of places.

They found the yields would increase significantly on what turned out to be energetic hot spots,and on ley lines (vortex lines).

Much to their surprise, they found that atomic yield was directly tied to the astrology of the explosive test.

Recall that they are breaking the fabric of matter and reality when they fire these things off.

But the unexpected thing was this exact synchronicity with astrology.

Astrology is the astronomy of the positions of the planets with regard to geometric alignment in the field of the solar system.....but as seen from the surface of the planet earth. In astrology the alignments are calculated from the position of the earth. where it is relevant to US, on the surface of this globe.

[TWINCANS]

"Due to high demand astro readings are held lottery style from here on.
Data which includes longitude, latitude as well as daylight savings time stands a higher chance of winning."

Sorry? I'd love to oblige but I haven't a clue.

[PurpleLama]

http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html

hope this helps!

[ulli]

Thanks, Purple Lama, it does help, but that is not the point.
...I use the web, I google the place and write in "longitude",
and it brings up both coordinates, but not the dates when exactly the clocks go forward....
and some birth days are in the later parts of March, or early April,
so there is that little bit of extra homework there.
And it takes time.
I just wanted people to make that small effort,
especially since they are getting something for nothing,
and I am pretty principled about cosmic laws...
which means that everything has a price....and that is the price I wanted to charge.

A person's spiritual growth depends on that principle being understood.

My ego doesn't need anyone being considerate towards me,
but it is a healthy trait to develop if one wants to make it through the shift,
which is why I keep demanding it.

[ulli]

"Due to high demand astro readings are held lottery style from here on.
Data which includes longitude, latitude as well as daylight savings time stands a higher chance of winning."

Sorry? I'd love to oblige but I haven't a clue.

Yours is easy, Toronto coordinates I can get with no problem,
as it is a big city, but I don't know whether they turned the clocks forward at the end of March,
or the beginning of April,
and in order to set up a chart I need to know where your birthtime was in relation to GMT (Greenwich Mean Time),
or your chart will come out distorted.
So you write "Ontario, daylight savings time" in your search box,
and then see if a website comes up that tells you something like
"last Sunday in March" , then research what date that would have been in the year of your birth.
No chart can be set up without this bit of info being correct, or we are playing guessing games.
I have found out that some of the astrology sites don't have this data correct,
after all, their data banks have hundreds of thousands of places in them, and so there are mistakes.
Even astro.com has errors.
So if a person can figure out if they were born during winter time or summer time
it would be incredibly helpful, and show that one is willing to go the extra mile.
I know this whole process is an educative one, and a bit laborious, but I'm sure it can't hurt in the long run.
If anything, there should be some special benefits, like a feeling of rememberance that there was a moment
when one's life began, and that this moment had cosmic significance.
As Carmody has emphasized several times, this is an exact science.

[TWINCANS]

Hi ulli,
I was not born on Daylight Savings Time but regular time.
Lat 43.653524, Long -79.383907

For the 2nd chart it's Lat 53.383055, Long -1.464795 No DST either

Hope that helps.
And thanks muchly!

[ulli]

Hi ulli,
I was not born on Daylight Savings Time but regular time.
Lat 43.653524, Long -79.383907

For the 2nd chart it's Lat 53.383055, Long -1.464795 No DST either

Hope that helps.
And thanks muchly!

It sure does; you just managed to move yourself to the number 1 spot.
Tomorrow is your turn then.
Plus, communication is key.

[TWINCANS]

Oh, good. Thank you very much. I look forward to tomorrow then , I think (cringe).

[ulli]

Oh, good. Thank you very much. I look forward to tomorrow then , I think (cringe).

LOL, :flame::jaw::fear::boom:

[TWINCANS]

No probs:drama:

I'm not :scared: of what I'll hear at all.

In fact I'm all :ear::ear:

And :hungry: for the info.

No :clock: I have lots to do :juggle:

[Simone]

What disturbs me most about the riots and fires in the UK (besides that they have been happening at all) is the response of law enforcement -- saying that they need to bring in more heavy artillery to deal with the crowds. I would take a TOTALLY different tack -- bring in PA systems and play loud harmonizing music, and bring in food and other necessities for the people, as well as a large contingent of diplomats to start talks where people have stopped to listen or dance to music or eat food. Maybe I'm all wet, but I simply do NOT see bringing in heavy military as a positive response; and just another way for the "authorities" to lock down further on people. From the U.S. I have been sending love, light and harmony vibes over there...

I don't know. I just feel that dealing with people who have gone over the brink it is best to treat them like loved children and try to help them out of that mindspace... I remember when there was going to be a riot in Chicago many years ago and the police were actually picking a fight with the crowd. Allen Ginsberg got up and starting humming AUMMMMMMMM into the microphone. The crowd responded with AUMMMMMM....and no violence broke out...!

You have my vote for a seat on the coming World Government.
I'll even help your campaign.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Hi Ulli, what a cool thread this is, so interesting!! :)

Please would you mind doing a reading for my son and I?

I was born 1st July 1982 at 4pm

My son was born 12th Sept 2006 at 9.25pm

Thank you :)

Simone xx

I need more than just a date and time. Check my signature.

I am sorry Ulli, I am new to forums in general and I should have read the thread better - I still have my forum training wheels on!!! hee hee :)

What a wonderful thing you're doing, offering your time to anyone who asks - I looked back at my post and wished I had've been more grateful to you for the free service. I am sorry for this!! :)

Ok, my son is occupied and happy, everything is quiet, I have a cuppa...ok getting stuck into some background reading to this thread! :)

Simone xx

[onawah]

Thanks for that article, Onawah.
I don't know Patricia Liles, and must admit I have not kept up much with reading what other astrologers are saying, or what style is fashionable to express the more intricate stuff.
If spend most of my time waiting for disclosure and Elenin NOT to happen.
But that last paragraph made me laugh out loud.
Anyone who does not know what a sesquiquadrate is might be put off studying this glorious art.
But I'll do as she says, thus fulfilling the prophecy.
Without putting my foot in my mouth I will take my heart into my hands and hold it high.;)

This astrologer is associated with the earth-keeper.com site, which has some wonderful channeled information, and that is how I became acquainted with her.
I had a LOL too, because no sooner had I posted an email message to a friend about "getting real" (see the intro to the post which says "The Perseids Meteor Shower reaches its peak on August 13th. It's a time to 'Get Real'" ) than I opened the email with the astro "getting real" message. There must be some truth therein...!

[ulli]

It's a good idea to notice these synchronicities, and allow them to guide you.
And as far as convoluted writing style goes, it's often a sign of an honest astrologer, albeit they can be hard to swallow.
Some get so lost in the details that they lose the bigger picture.
Oops, look what I just wrote....when that happens I see it as a warning from Me to me.
Ulli projecting again.:wacko:

[onawah]

The bigger picture is the one I am always looking for, so a bit of convolution doesn't scare me!

[ulli]

The bigger picture is the one I am always looking for, so a bit of convolution doesn't scare me!

As time goes by and you learn more about yourself, using your astrology chart as a contemplation device, you will start bouncing between the microcosmos and the macrocosmos, always redefining who you are and what it is you are exploring.

Whether you want to be everywhere at once (Aquarian impulse) or stick with just one goal (Capricornian impulse), whether to charge forward into action (Aries impulse) or just sit and think about universal balance and harmony (Libra impulse)
Whatever it is you do can then still be analyzed astrologically.
"Ah", you say, "I want to do what is best for humanity in the long run", well, fair enough, but with the variety of talents most of us have at our disposal, which is the one that you want to use?
Following one's bliss in some cases means that we end up running like rabbitts, when we really could be flying.
Ulli, who can feel one of her anti-reincarnation rants coming on....

[onawah]

Hmmmm....is that in regard to anyone in particular, or just a general rant?

[ulli]

Hmmmm....is that in regard to anyone in particular, or just a general rant?

On the surface it looked like I was addressing you, but in reality I was addressing all of us in general.

The moment anyone mulls over the kind of absolute statement astrology can throw out there
the option to run with it or go against it becomes available.
Such an option can stop us in our tracks.
Until then every behaviour pattern is simply automatic.

Ok, if a parent yells at her kid to be less lazy, or be a better eater...I'm not talking about those options, that come with education.

I am talking about adults who go along with life, and if they question anyone it is their political leaders, employers, spouses
anyone outside of themselves...
But the moment that person seriously looks within and discovers that yes, problems often come with being too extremely Cancerian
(smothering relationships) , Leo (domineering over others) then some small adjustment can be made to the self.
And no one can change anyone else, only the self.
Not thinking of anyone in particular, just the unconscious planetary tendencies, which can be studied, verified, and modified.

[onawah]

Got it. Thanks.

[ulli]

Now it's TWINCAN's turn:
There were 4 planets in Aries, and as you were born at or near sunrise
the Ascendant is also in Aries. Five Aries factors,
this would make you the free energy provider to the whole world.
Since the sun was rising, as well as Jupiter, you are plugged into an infnite source.

But then there was a cluster of planets in the opposite sign of Libra:
the Moon, conjunct with Neptune and Saturn.
These three are the great balancer figures of your life, sometimes act like mill stones, slowing you down.
Learning to manage these opposite forces inside yourself
must have been exceedingly tough, especially when you were younger.

I know one other person who had this combination...
while in the military he was used to negociate
with the Vietcong the release of US prisoners of war.
The Libra planets supplied him with the diplomacy, and the Aries planets with the guts.
Needless to say, he had quite a high success rate.

Then there is a Mars-Pluto square...highly driven, as if on a mission...there is always a possibility of making enemies
and with Mars in the 7th, (spouse) and Pluto in the 5th, (children)
these energies make you the ruler of your family, with your main challenges coming from those two areas...

The Libra need for perfectionism, however, mean that you will try your hardest to be fair,
but still, many issues that you may not wish to address due to their complexity
may force themselves at you again and again.
This combination should have given you some incredible growth spurts, at regular intervals.
Jupiter rising in the first made you optimistic, and also lucky, and that many Aries planets
furthermore saw to it that negative events are quickly forgotten, except for unexpected moments when a transiting planet
might throw you into a deep crevasse, where all looks hopeless, and then quickly passes
as you manage to pull yourself up by your boot straps.
You recently came out of your second Saturn return, with saturn also opposing your Mercury,
which would have been one of those low spots.
Free at last.
Apart from the usual minor hickups no heavy planetary transits are on the horizon for a while.

[TWINCANS]

No heavy transit on the horizon for a while -- good! I'm still looking over my shoulder from the last bunch.

Definitely do not feel free at last, but then maybe that fact hasn't sunk in yet.

The issues that carry deep complexities - that struck me. I've been skidded to a stop by those on a few occasions. Afterwards I love that they happened.

Love that comment 'the free energy provider to the whole world' Yup, feels about right. Even at my grand older age, bit of a dynamo I'm afraid. Right now though all that happens is that those around me just hand me the jobs. Unfortunately the jobs are not like your Vietnam negotiator - family admin and homeschooling which is coming to an end. I keep looking around for a world to serve. But all the positions are filled with those I definitely can't work with. Maybe next time around.

I'm going to re-read and integrate now. Thank you so much for this, ulli. I know everyone else here has benefitted immensely from your astro insights too.

[Calz]

Now it's TWINCAN's turn:
There were 4 planets in Aries, and as you were born at or near sunrise
the Ascendant is also in Aries. Five Aries factors,
this would make you the free energy provider to the whole world.
Since the sun was rising, as well as Jupiter, you are plugged into an infnite source.

But then there was a cluster of planets in the opposite sign of Libra:
the Moon, conjunct with Neptune and Saturn.
These three are the great balancer figures of your life, sometimes act like mill stones, slowing you down.
Learning to manage these opposite forces inside yourself
must have been exceedingly tough, especially when you were younger.



As someone with 5 planets in Libra (moon included) I expect trying to emotionally balance all that fire energy with her Libra Moon a great challange.

I believe the Sun/Moon opposition has an extremely tight orb as well.

There is more to "the story" here and I am enjoying sitting in the front row watching it unfold.

:pop2:

[ZuLiZ]

Wonderful post Ulli! I like where this is going...... it all comes back to looking at ourselves and our own behaviour/reactions/emotions because we can't change others only ourselves.... taking responsibility and owning it .... I think any tool that can help us along that path is valid. I would love a reading if and when you have time. It's the full moon tonight and I just spent it at a blessing and meditation, so I'm feeling the lurve!!! I will PM you my details for the lottery!

[red_rose]

Hey Ulli :)

Just wondering, have you done a chart for december 2012 for the globe?

Could be quite interesting.

red_rose

[ulli]

Hey Ulli :)

Just wondering, have you done a chart for december 2012 for the globe?

Could be quite interesting.

red_rose

I did, and quite frankly, it is not a big deal. I think August 2012 could be tricky,
and several other dates before then...shift in consciousness, possibly war.
All of it manmade.
I've been in rebellion mode about anything to do with the Mayan calendar.
When I first heard about 2012 it was from Dr. Jose Arguelles book.
Later I found out that some Mayan Elders were so annoyed
at the distortions made by him that they asked the government
of Guatemala to deny him access to the country.

I have heard of end of the world scenarios since the fifties,
and some of them I got sucked into, mainly the planetary line-up of May 5th, 2000,
Which was much more intense than anything coming up now, except for the Pluto-Uranus square
But that happens regularly, every 50 or so years.
When May 5th, 2000 finally came I found myself on a plane on a white knuckle flight, unable
to land at Houston, Texas, redirected to some airforce base nearby,
missing the connection flight to London and all sorts of other conveniences to do with being
stranded in airports. Not fun, but neither was it the end of the world.

It was the year when I gave up believing in organized religion, if that counts.
The last ten years I have been studying the relationship between consciousness
and outer reality, and how these things are being controlled, for the masses, by a hidden
geopolitical elite, via the media, and now even the Internet, including this very forum.
The choice where to direct our focus is up to each of us, and will have an effect on outcome.

My advice is to not allow yourself be influenced by anything you can't somehow verify yourself.
Not easy, and a constant battle with silly imagination.

I'm holding my focus on my utopia, my personal idea of a happy world,
and would like to encourage everyone else to do the same.
The collective utopia should make a pretty cool world, I think.

[astrid]

Im posting this a few days late.. but still great info in this latest update....

He touches on the " Grand Cardinal Cross" , a good introduction for newbies on this important astro alignment we are in.

ums43wT-IS8

Also, I can really relate to the " reinventing oneself" bit, its spot on to what i'm going through right now.

[loveandgratitude]

BIG guns sparking off each other up in the heavens...
thought I'd pass this on here as well I posted this on another thread...........


Pluto...radical rip and tear time...if it ain't working... LET GO....its going to blow up in ya face otherwise
Uranus.... electricity well harnessed illuminates and can warm us
if not well grounded into the earth..Its gunna fry anyone unwittingly trying to handle live loose wires
do you check your personal wiring (nervous system) regularly...eat, play,love
eat lovely home baking with organic ingredients....I think this is what a famous french queen was trying to say
just before the crazed masses beheaded her (mercury retrograde)


As you'll ascertain by reading right the way through Edgar's insights there will be lots of emperors walking around in their new nakedness
look well at your behind before you open the door to go out......check your personal mirrors are naturally lit and clear
Mars.. always ready to battle especially so when torpedoed by Pluto


Edgar's astro is quite on the mark




----- Original Message -----
From: Edgar J Winter
I heard on the news that it is going to get better…in about 20 years! I thought they had a great sense of humour.


Now what is going on in those stars above your head now is that a t-square of Mars, Uranus and Pluto are all pointing straight at Juno! In myth, Juno (Hera in the Greek Pantheon) felt that she was unfairly treated by Jupiter / Zeus. She, Juno, is currently in Libra which wants fairness and balance. The rising sign in the chart for the UK (1 Jan 1801 at midnight at Westminster) has its ASC at 7 Libra. Britain feels unfairly treated and is worked up to boiling point about it. Juno is crying “Its all so unfair”. Mars influence is the young men and fighters. Younger women are projecting their Mars at this time...watch out parents! Uranus influence now is political unionism and radical revolutionary requests. Pluto is complex financial involvements, mortgages, real estate. Secret Police. Crisis counselors...technical scientists involved with radiation. A great change to the structure of society as it was in those revolutionary years 245 years ago. Reminds me of Arnie saying “Ill be Back”! Pluto has arrived back to view the USA, UK and France and say “I have come around in my cycle again to wipe the floor with you and lets start over again.”




“The whole structure of the worlds global financial banking industry is now ready to throw in the towel!

The next 3 weeks with Mercury in retrograde position we revisit the Global Financial Crisis again No 2. (The first was 2008!) but this to be worse than 2008! The falls will be records.. They will recall 1982 and that is a Saturn Cycle 29 years ago! Remember that one and the fall out in the real Estate boom! This is another Real Estate bursting Bubble now! As a buyer you can ask almost any price to desperate sellers. If you have sold already you should have a glass of champagne for your determination to successfully sell.

Next week we have the Sun and Venus playing drama queens with Zeus (Jupiter) who being fed up with the world starvation starts picking up some lighting bolts to pierce the armour of material philosophy. By the time the full moon hits in Aquarius on Sunday 14th August and meets up with the planet of illusion Neptune… the word goes out that the banks are closing their doors for a grand holiday! No one can get paid or get their money until things are sorted. “



Now here is a surprise for you …our PM Julia has a chart pattern to die for! Err well I mean it is a possible assassination ‘politically’. She is running a chart energy that nothing she does can work out well for her. Hopefully we see that a revolution will take place after a huge convoy of mad people storm the Bastille Gates of the ACT Palace, end of this month. More than one political backbencher or independent will seek to cross the floor and so a double dissolution is quite possible.

Remember that for next week or so don’t go out into the woods at night and stay serene and warm under your doona’s!

The Weekly Star Patterns. Weekend Friday 12th August. 2011



ARIES [March 21 - 20 April]



Maybe it would be best to tell you that you are not to concern yourself with cancelled engagements as Mercury in its backward cycle. New contracts made after the 21st August will probably be better than this week. Other trends under the weekend’s full moon has compromise.



TAURUS [21 April - 21 May]



The full Moon this week end is in the sign of Aquarius bringing differences to a head. Pent up feelings need an outlet from the stuff that is pulling you back into old aggressive energies at work or home. You may feel like much computer work at night so sleep in late if you can.



GEMINI [22 May - 21 June]



Your imagination fires up with the full Moon in Aquarius, a compatible air sign to your own Gemini. Your head fills with wonderful innovative dreams and the means to realise them. However see if you can pick the illusion or flaw in one or two as you need to be realistic.



CANCER [22 June - 22 July]



With Mercury retrograde, and the full Moon shining on your recent financial dilemmas you may become especially frustrated by a mate or business partner. This is the time to smile and bring a little charm to your speech and not be oversensitive.. Stay open to your intuitive ideas



LEO [23 July - 22 August]



This full Moon weekend is in your opposite sign of Aquarius presenting a challenge to you in terms of separating fact from fantasy. With Mercury in reverse cycle its best to pass up dubious propositions. Someone may try to lay a guilt trip on you. Find solutions for harmony.



VIRGO (23 August – 22nd September)



The full Moon in Aquarius brings soulful longings as you converse about the good old days! Things brighten up with self analysis on confidential and private matters. You achieve the best success by displaying a sympathetic nature. Avoid failing to seek much needed rest



LIBRA [23 September - 22 October]



Your imagination is working overtime so put it to good use under the full Moon in Aquarius. Mercury retrograde finds yourself in a dreamy sort of state of mind and probably wont be in the mood to face harsh realities. Probably a good time to indulge in your favourite escape.



SCORPIO [23 October - 22 November]



Don’t burn yourself out by trying to prove yourself under the bad angle of the full Moon inviting trouble with officialdom. The results of the full Moon weekend brings to a head tensions between work and home. Stay poised, you only have a few days before gaining peace of mind.



SAGITTARIUS [23 November - 22 December]



This full Moon weekend in Aquarius may bring under control areas that have been troubled by confusion, uncertainty, or a general lack of resolve. Clarity should return within a few days through a review of the past. A mood of change is favourably tied to your family residence.



CAPRICORN [23 December - 19 January]



Recent developments especially about money, may be brought to a breaking point, and so pent up feelings may spill out of control. The full Moon reflects this but by seeking a detached perspective the mood of forgiveness is in the air and it is possible to repair recent fallings out.



AQUARIUS [20 January - 19 February]



The full Moon this weekend is in your own sign bringing a sense of detachment and feeling of independence. For the best public relations do lots of hand-shaking or gentle hugs so as people will see you in the best of lights. Shopping can be productive and even therapeutic.



PISCES [20 February - 20 March]



There are matters concerning dependants and pets. The Aquarian full Moon eliminates your mystical and mysterious meanderings into secret places. You retreat to them if pressed by any daily dramatic emotional extremes. Dinner with a friend may heal many problems.



What we all need to be aware of right now…this weekend and best part of next week!



While travelling through protective Cancer, feisty Mars connects with the revolutionary Uranus-Pluto square that, while not exact, is still very potent. There are few combinations that are as headstrong, rebellious and potentially explosive as when Mars, Uranus and Pluto connect! One thing is for sure: You won't want anyone telling you what to do, although you're sure to be challenged now! This is a wonderful opportunity to liberate yourself from old, worn-out patterns. However, this aspect can also represent power struggles or, for the enlightened, a culmination of what you've been working toward. No matter what you confront now, make sure you use the power of this aspect to do something amazing!



August 13: Full Moon in Aquarius



An Aquarius Moon activates our desire to be part of something bigger, whether it's your local community or getting involved in a global initiative. Whenever the Moon is full in group-oriented Aquarius, the Sun is concurrently in Leo, the sign of leadership. Your main task during this emotionally heightened time is to maintain a balance between your own needs and desires, and those of others. Due to this full Moon's abundance of Mars energy -- not to mention Mars's contact with outer planets -- this is a particularly dynamic and challenging aspect. You'll do best if you employ Aquarian detachment rather than allow yourself to be triggered by the moods and feelings of everyone around you. The world needs thoughtful leaders right now ... perhaps it's time for you to step up and be one of them!


August 16: Sun/Venus/Mercury conjunction


The Leader (Sun), the Lover (Venus) and the Messenger (Mercury) come together in bold, creative and dramatic Leo, and this triple conjunction brings plenty of interesting -- and fun -- conversations. You're in planning mode now, and if you can remember to brainstorm without necessarily committing to anything (since Mercury is still retrograde), you'll lay a foundation for exciting events to come! Reach out to people from your past for extra support and ideas.




Five Eclipses
Right now we are emerging from an amazing and disorienting inner journey. After an unusual three eclipses (2 Solar and 1 Lunar) between June 1 and July 1, we had an eclipse of Venus on June 30 and one to Mars on July 27. Called occultation’s... (to ‘occult’ something, means to hide it) by those in the know, they are alignments by both longitude and declination of a planet with the Sun or Moon. In this case, the Moon blocked our view of first Venus then Mars when it passed between us and blocked our view of these more distant solar satellites.

Well, well...can you imagine how some relationships must be faring in this peculiar climate!

The effect has been profound. It has fully exposed our feelings of love/value (Venus) and our feelings of assertion/aggression (Mars) to us through the filter of the unconscious mind. All is revealed, although we may not want to take action in exactly the ways we feel prompted to. It brings into question the role that we give to our feelings in our daily life. We may find that our unacknowledged emotions are controlling our behaviors and producing unwanted results. We may also find that our acknowledged feelings are a veneer over what we really feel, as these celestial events take place.

During eclipses, we are disconnected from our customary set of structures related to the planets involved. With the Solar Eclipses June 1 and July 1, we were cut loose from our sense of purpose and direction, even our sense of self. With the Lunar Eclipse on June 15, our emotional patterns were disrupted so that we could see what we really feel. With the Venus Eclipse on June 30, we saw what we really value — perhaps who we really love, as all the masking of “shoulds” was stripped away,( i.e. We should have done it this way or that way!) We may have felt “hooked”or attached, and reacted to that in various ways.

With the Mars Eclipse on July 27, the masking of the ego was stripped away, uncovering anger, impatience, anxiety, and indecision all in one swirling pool of energy. Our ego was revealed to us in all its urgency and childlike nature. It affords us a wake-up call to what is driving us unconsciously, if we listen to the messages underneath all the drama. Mars also lends itself to decision-making, and in Gemini we needed to get out our sorting hat so that we could see clearly what stays and what goes.

We’ll get our answers in general the end of the month, when the universe offers a big doorway of manifestation as the Moon, Sun, and Venus create an Earth grand trine with Jupiter and Pluto. Yes friends the stock market will surge again but likely to drop just as fast by the October star patterns.

This launches four months of greater productivity for our efforts, as we pinpoint our direction and define our goals. Everyone can tap this energy, but it is especially beneficial to those with birth placements in Earth signs (Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn). We’re eager to launch as the month opens, but we’re not ready yet. The right balance of action and waiting will begin to open doors by the month’s end.

It doesn’t matter who you are, something will touch you in August. If you’re a Fixed sign (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, Aquarius), you’ll see lots of action that shows you where to expand and what is most valuable to you. If you are a Mutable (Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius, Pisces), you’ll see the tip of an iceberg that surfaces in November and takes on more importance next summer-autumn. If you are a Cardinal (Aries, Cancer, Libra, Capricorn), I don’t have to tell you what you’ve been through! It’s all over but the action now, as Mars moves through Cancer to activate those dreams you have not yet launched.

We begin a three-month illumination process as well, as the Sun reaches the halfway point in four of its yearly cycles involving the major players (specifically Neptune, Chiron, Uranus, and Jupiter) by the end of October. Each of these planets can be associated with one of the stories currently playing out in our life.. This begins on the 22nd, with the Sun’s opposition to Neptune, a clarifying process. This will show us what remains of the past to be healed, dissolved, or re-imagined as we move fully into our new future. On the 26th, our healing experiences are amplified when Sun opposes Chiron. Be willing to go into your painful places to get the most from this contact. What material recourses do you really need to be happy? Eat good food see if you can wine and dine with safe friends, go to places that bring you peace and comfort.

This roller coaster ride sure aint finished yet but get in a good laugh occasionally and offer a happy smile to the fearful.

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[Catsquotl]

here is your reading, Catsquotl

The first such event happened when you were 8 1/2 years old. Then 1993 was a really crazy year.
Emotionally 1999 was tough, with Neptune on your sun and Pluto on your Venus....
But you got through it all, so far, and found Avalon. I'm not going to tell you when the next such event will occur,
as you are going to learn how to make your own predictions.
Just like a sailor would never set out to sail the oceans without a star map...
Anyway, Aquarians are born astrologers.

Yeah well its been a few weeks now and i am still at the beginning.
So Ulli could you point me to what it was in the stars that made you conclude the above "ruff" periods?

With Love
Eelco

[ulli]

here is your reading, Catsquotl

The first such event happened when you were 8 1/2 years old. Then 1993 was a really crazy year.
Emotionally 1999 was tough, with Neptune on your sun and Pluto on your Venus....
But you got through it all, so far, and found Avalon. I'm not going to tell you when the next such event will occur,
as you are going to learn how to make your own predictions.
Just like a sailor would never set out to sail the oceans without a star map...
Anyway, Aquarians are born astrologers.

Yeah well its been a few weeks now and i am still at the beginning.
So Ulli could you point me to what it was in the stars that made you conclude the above "ruff" periods?

With Love
Eelco

I will have to pull up your chart again which I don't have on this computer...in case I didn't keep a record just pm me your data again and I will take a look.
I have a feeling I was looking at Pluto's transits to your natal planets, especially if there were conjunctions.
Because Pluto is so slow he can sit on one degree for a long time and if during that time any of the other planets come to form part of the geometric pattern it is the combination that makes the Bingo!! event.