Astrology as a "Know Yourself" tool

[ulli]

For all the Elenin fans who also happen to know astrology, here is an ephemeris:
http://darkstarastrology.com/comet-elenin-astrological-ephemeris-2011-2012/

[ulli]

The recent forum conflict which I was particially involved in showed an astrological effect from Elenin squaring my Uranus in my 11th house....
Hmm, interesting!

There are not enough hours in a day... sooo much to learn.

[ulli]

here is your reading, Catsquotl

The first such event happened when you were 8 1/2 years old. Then 1993 was a really crazy year.
Emotionally 1999 was tough, with Neptune on your sun and Pluto on your Venus....
But you got through it all, so far, and found Avalon. I'm not going to tell you when the next such event will occur,
as you are going to learn how to make your own predictions.
Just like a sailor would never set out to sail the oceans without a star map...
Anyway, Aquarians are born astrologers.

Yeah well its been a few weeks now and i am still at the beginning.
So Ulli could you point me to what it was in the stars that made you conclude the above "ruff" periods?

With Love
Eelco

Eelco
here it is: you were born with a T-square, that means you have two planets in opposition to one another, and a third at right angle to that axis.
The two opposite planets were Mars and Uranus, at 19 degrees Aries and 18 degrees Libra respectively.
The third planet was Mercury in Capricorn, at 20 degrees.
In 1993 there was a conjunction of Neptune and Uranus, in Capricorn, and they were dancing on top of your Mercury, while at the same time sending two right angles, or squares, to your Libra Uranus and Aries Mars.
If you have any way of recalling details of that time, I'm pretty sure you would have to agree that your life was in deep turmoil then.

The way to do this oneself, is first of all get aquainted with one's own chart. Know which planets are in which signs and houses, then study their angles to one another.
This alone is a process that would take a lot more than two weeks, I would give this basic period at least three months, unless you have 10 hour a day astrology classes.
The analysis of transits comes later, and for that you have to be pretty fluent in the interpretation of the various meanings of planets and angles.
you also have to train the eye in SEEING the angles, or patterns, which requires a bit of practise.
For beginners I just suggest, if you want quick answers, to use your browser, and formulate your question.
Say I wasn't around, to give the answers.
You would then first of all have to look for online ephemeris. These are charts of planets, for any given year.
Here is one website: (out of many):
http://www.zodiacal.com/ephemerides/

For example, clicking on the link for 2011, then August, you will get this chart:

Mo/Dy/Yr Sun Moon Merc Venu Mars Jupi Satu Uran Nept Plut
8/01/11 8Le54 2Vi00 1Vi05 4Le46 28Ge43 9Ta00 12Li23 4Ar21. 0Pi05. 5Cp23.
8/02/11 9Le52 16Vi34 1Vi10 6Le00 29Ge24 9Ta05 12Li27 4Ar20. 0Pi04. 5Cp22.
8/03/11 10Le49 1Li10 1Vi11. 7Le14 0Cn04 9Ta11 12Li32 4Ar19. 0Pi02. 5Cp20.
8/04/11 11Le47 15Li40 1Vi07. 8Le28 0Cn44 9Ta16 12Li37 4Ar18. 0Pi01. 5Cp19.
8/05/11 12Le44 0Sc01 0Vi57. 9Le42 1Cn24 9Ta20 12Li41 4Ar17.29Aq59. 5Cp18.
8/06/11 13Le42 14Sc10 0Vi42.10Le56 2Cn04 9Ta25 12Li46 4Ar16.29Aq58. 5Cp17.
8/07/11 14Le39 28Sc04 0Vi22.12Le10 2Cn44 9Ta30 12Li51 4Ar14.29Aq56. 5Cp16.
8/08/11 15Le36 11Sg45 29Le57.13Le24 3Cn24 9Ta34 12Li56 4Ar13.29Aq55. 5Cp15.
8/09/11 16Le34 25Sg12 29Le27.14Le38 4Cn04 9Ta38 13Li01 4Ar12.29Aq53. 5Cp14.
8/10/11 17Le32 8Cp27 28Le52.15Le52 4Cn44 9Ta42 13Li06 4Ar10.29Aq51. 5Cp13.
8/11/11 18Le29 21Cp31 28Le13.17Le06 5Cn23 9Ta46 13Li11 4Ar09.29Aq50. 5Cp12.
8/12/11 19Le27 4Aq22 27Le30.18Le20 6Cn03 9Ta49 13Li17 4Ar07.29Aq48. 5Cp11.
8/13/11 20Le24 17Aq03 26Le44.19Le34 6Cn43 9Ta53 13Li22 4Ar06.29Aq47. 5Cp10.
8/14/11 21Le22 29Aq32 25Le56.20Le49 7Cn22 9Ta56 13Li27 4Ar04.29Aq45. 5Cp09.
8/15/11 22Le19 11Pi50 25Le06.22Le03 8Cn01 9Ta59 13Li33 4Ar03.29Aq43. 5Cp08.
8/16/11 23Le17 23Pi58 24Le16.23Le17 8Cn41 10Ta02 13Li38 4Ar01.29Aq42. 5Cp07.
8/17/11 24Le15 5Ar58 23Le26.24Le31 9Cn20 10Ta04 13Li44 3Ar59.29Aq40. 5Cp06.
8/18/11 25Le12 17Ar51 22Le37.25Le45 9Cn59 10Ta07 13Li49 3Ar58.29Aq38. 5Cp05.
8/19/11 26Le10 29Ar42 21Le50.26Le59 10Cn38 10Ta09 13Li55 3Ar56.29Aq37. 5Cp04.
8/20/11 27Le08 11Ta33 21Le07.28Le14 11Cn18 10Ta11 14Li01 3Ar54.29Aq35. 5Cp04.
8/21/11 28Le05 23Ta30 20Le28.29Le28 11Cn57 10Ta13 14Li07 3Ar52.29Aq34. 5Cp03.
8/22/11 29Le03 5Ge38 19Le54. 0Vi42 12Cn35 10Ta15 14Li12 3Ar51.29Aq32. 5Cp02.
8/23/11 0Vi01 18Ge03 19Le26. 1Vi57 13Cn14 10Ta16 14Li18 3Ar49.29Aq30. 5Cp01.
8/24/11 0Vi59 0Cn48 19Le04. 3Vi11 13Cn53 10Ta17 14Li24 3Ar47.29Aq29. 5Cp01.
8/25/11 1Vi57 13Cn58 18Le49. 4Vi25 14Cn32 10Ta18 14Li30 3Ar45.29Aq27. 5Cp00.
8/26/11 2Vi55 27Cn35 18Le42 5Vi40 15Cn11 10Ta19 14Li36 3Ar43.29Aq25. 4Cp59.
8/27/11 3Vi53 11Le41 18Le43 6Vi54 15Cn49 10Ta20 14Li42 3Ar41.29Aq24. 4Cp59.
8/28/11 4Vi51 26Le11 18Le51 8Vi08 16Cn28 10Ta20 14Li49 3Ar39.29Aq22. 4Cp58.
8/29/11 5Vi49 11Vi00 19Le08 9Vi23 17Cn06 10Ta21 14Li55 3Ar37.29Aq20. 4Cp58.
8/30/11 6Vi47 25Vi59 19Le33 10Vi37 17Cn44 10Ta21.15Li01 3Ar35.29Aq19. 4Cp57.
8/31/11 7Vi45 10Li58 20Le06 11Vi51 18Cn23 10Ta21.15Li07 3Ar33.29Aq17. 4Cp57.

The vertical columns give the positions of the planets (GMT noon positions) and the horizontal lines give the days.

For August 31 it says in the first column 7Vi45, which means that the sun was at 7 degrees Virgo and 45 minutes at noon GMT.
The longitude and latitudes are given in degrees minutes and seconds...not decimals.

In the case of finding which angles were affecting your personal planets, you look up 1993, on that site and start looking closely where the outer planets like Pluto, Neptune, Uranus and Saturn were traveling. By looking at this chart I gave above you get an idea of the speed, as the degrees of the outer planets change less frequently than the sun's which changes about 1 degree per day.
365 day a year...360 degrees.
The moon moves about 12 degrees per day.
For the calculations to find your 1993 transits I only looked at Uranus and Neptune's ocations, as I wasn't trying to pinpoint an exact day, or hour...
I was just generally pointing to 1993 as the year when those planets visited the sensitive area of your chart, the T-square.
That way one can see at one glance when "trouble" comes.
Because of years of experience astrologers remember by heart the years of the major conjunctions, like the Uranus Neptune conjunction of 1993
which brought the Internet and PCs to a large group of people.
Uranus rules technology, computers, the mass consciousness and awakening, and Neptune, like water, connects in a unifying way.
Both planets combined to bring us this great window.
Having them on your Mercury must have been a major eye opener for you personally, but the square to Mars in particular would have brought the difficulties you experienced that year.
All in all, like opening a lot of taps all at once.

[Jake]

What a gift you bring to us all. Thank you Ulli. Can I get a turn? :)

[ulli]

What a gift you bring to us all. Thank you Ulli. Can I get a turn? :)

Sure, Jake. PM your data, and join the lottery.

[Wings]

The recent forum conflict which I was particially involved in showed an astrological effect from Elenin squaring my Uranus in my 11th house....
Hmm, interesting!

There are not enough hours in a day... sooo much to learn.

Any other thoughts Ulli about Elenin's astrological effects?

Later in the year when Elenin once again aligns with the sun and earth, it will be conjunct my ascendant (I myself see this as a positive sign) .... and several weeks prior to that, it will be conjunct my sun and also directly opposite the galactic centre.

[Catsquotl]

Thank you soo much.
That would make sense.

1993 was a year of mourning. losing a loved one and leaving me in ruins........

I'll give it a few more months/years to learn.

With Love
Eelcp

[ulli]

Thank you soo much.
That would make sense.

1993 was a year of mourning. losing a loved one and leaving me in ruins........

I'll give it a few more months/years to learn.

With Love
Eelcp

Mourning, loss, ruin, deception, grief, disappointment-- those are Neptunian words.
Uranus' part would then have been the shocks, as the events were unexpected.

Neptune at positive angles brings visions of higher spiritual nature,
while some of the negative aspects show how the love energies flow away from this dimension
to hide behind the veil, leaving one bereft and wondering what happened.

In the long run all of Neptune's sides lead to the discovery that there is more to life
than only this dimension, and there are higher worlds as well as lower worlds out there.

In the positive sense this leads to inspirations in the fields of art and science,
and in the negative it could be demonic voices ordering one to have more drinks,
or do harm to someone...like satanic whispers, they lead to ruin,
either by turning one into a victim of deceivers, or by miscalculating and making wrong decisions.
Each person then decides which of those voices to act on, or not.

[ulli]

The recent forum conflict which I was particially involved in showed an astrological effect from Elenin squaring my Uranus in my 11th house....
Hmm, interesting!

There are not enough hours in a day... sooo much to learn.
Any other thoughts Ulli about Elenin's astrological effects?

Later in the year when Elenin once again aligns with the sun and earth, it will be conjunct my ascendant (I myself see this as a positive sign) .... and several weeks prior to that, it will be conjunct my sun and also directly opposite the galactic centre.

Studying this will take some time...one would have to check on astrologers forums
and read up on debates to determine which way the verdict goes.
Several people will then compare their chart correleations with Elenin's transits
to see if he is associated with a gentle energy of a punch in the belly.

[ulli]

Here is your reading, Herbert

Gleaned from your Sagittarius Ascendant, Gemini sun and Gemini moon:
You are outgoing, restless, chatty,
easy to get along with but will disappear if someone attempts to tie you to a commitment.
You like to work with your hands, but also like to write.
Mercury in the 6th, together with the moon, gives you a strong interest in diet and health matters.
Venus in Taurus, in the 5th, love of children, luxuries, makes you sensual, enjoy being creative.
You dedicate yourself to serving others, even if it means forgoing romantic priorities...this is due to a Venus Saturn trine.
Mars in Libra in the 10th, strong sense of social justice, possible expressed through a profession,
talent for law.
Jupiter in Pisces in the third house: Self sacrificing, helpful, compassionate.
however, opposite Saturn in Virgo in the 9th house
means obstacles to do with travel plans and also higher education...
Uranus in Cancer in the 7th...unusual relationship,
also possibly mother was Uranian/Aquarian type...full of knowledge
Neptune in Libra in the 10th house...
strong spiritual aspirations,
Pluto in the 9th...square Venus: relationship issues due to difficulty in maintaining equality...
maybe one or the other partner having possessiveness and jealousy issues.
All in all a well-balanced chart, but currently experiencing transits
that can put partnership on rocky ground, recent transits from Mars could have contributed,
also Uranus transit square its own birth position, right now.
It is possible to resolve all of these issues if there is a willingness
to communicate with the partner in frank and open consultation.
Also worth remembering that it's not so much about who the other half is,
but how one is managing the excercise of BEING the right partner.

[astrid]

I found this article while researching on the 12th house.
I can confer that it's very accurate, well, in my experiences anyway.

I thought it might be of use to others with 12th house planets...

http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoundation/dkfArtTwelfthHouse.htm

[ulli]

I found this article while researching on the 12th house.
I can confer that it's very accurate, well, in my experiences anyway.

I thought it might be of use to others with 12th house planets...

http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoundation/dkfArtTwelfthHouse.htm


Thanks Astrid. This article is so good I decided to paste it here in all it's glory, so it's right in the face of people who don't like to click on links.

The DK Foundation

The Twelfth House and the Law of Compensation

  With this article we are bringing to a close our run of monthly articles on purely astrological themes. The remaining articles of 2002 will be, once again, more general in nature.

When at last one gets the hang of the twelfth house, the link between the wide range of attributes assigned to this house by different astrologers in a period as short as the past sixty years becomes apparent. The difficulty is in getting the hang of it because so much writing on the twelfth house succumbs to the erosive effects of Neptunian energy and becomes imprecise and obscure.

In the twelfth house the personality is disadvantaged. Whether that is through ‘self-undoing’; a description of the twelfth house that was popular with the pre War astrologers, ‘bondage’ another pre War favourite; attacks by secret enemies and wild animals (Sepharial), or to come up to date, poor self-identity, emotional abuse in childhood, psychic sensitivity and mysticism, the effect is to handicap the personality in the circumstances of everyday life. The energy of the planet working through the twelfth house is not available to reinforce or promote separatist consciousness.

I still smile when I read Sepharial’s apocalyptic descriptions of the planets in the twelfth house but with no good reason, because when allowance is made for changing literary styles, my own experiences supplemented with nearly twenty years worth of client experiences bear out his claims.

With Jupiter in the twelfth house I am getting off lightly. Sepharial writes: Secret enemies over which the native prevails. Enemies become friends; success with large animal and in remote places.

During the course of her life, my sister who has Uranus in the twelfth has been enjoying: Strange and unexpected enmities; danger of estrangement or exile from one’s kin and country. Eccentric people perplex and harass the native by their underhand actions; danger of falls from horses; accidents causing detention in out of the way places and foreign lands.’

Knowing her as she is now, I can guarantee that any eccentric person, who tries to perplex and harass my sister with underhand actions, whether at home or abroad, will not stay around to do it a second time. They would not have the courage. This double Piscean has learned how to be assertive and is frankly awesome.

And this brings us to an important point: by the standards of contemporary astrology, it is not so much that Sepharial’s descriptions are lurid, it is that they do not go far enough and explain the developmental purpose that these dramatic happenings serve and their effect on the unfolding of the personality.

As the result of twelfth house influences, the handicapped and imprisoned personality is forced to appeal to a higher level, and it is from this level that strength and compensation flows.

We do not access the collective unconscious through the twelfth house, the conclusion to which much recent writing has muddled - we do that through the fourth house. The collective unconsciousness is an aggregate of what has passed through the filter of the dualistic personality consciousness, which is the cause of suffering. Through the twelfth we access soul consciousness, a higher level that remains beyond duality.

The twelfth house is a like a bore shaft from the level of soul down to that of the personality.

What the personality is denied the soul will provide. I have likened it on other occasions to the mathematical compliment: in order to bring the value of any quality to 100 and if the personality has 75 units of that quality, the soul will provide 25; if the personality has only 5 units then the soul will provide 95.

This is why people with the twelfth house strongly represented have such spiritual potential. The level of soul is compensating them for the personality’s handicaps.

The experiences involving enmity and detention whether that is of the body or of the mind - agoraphobia is a common twelfth house condition - which are features of the twelfth house experience serve to make a person rely more on divine justice and less on venial humanity.

Children with the Sun in the twelfth house are bullied at school. There are few exceptions to this even though they themselves may never speak about it because they are sad and ashamed. Amongst the exoteric astrologers of an earlier generation, the twelfth house was know as the ‘house of secret sorrows.’

People with Mars in the twelfth, are bullied by those close to them, particularly sexual partners.  Hindu astrologers give Mars in the twelfth house kujadosha status for this reason and consider it very seriously when looking at marriage charts.  I am asking Sudhiranad to tell us a bit more about this.

People with Venus in the twelfth house are denied the experience of knowing unconditional love and acceptance from those close to them.

The Moon and Mercury in the twelfth may both weaken the personal reality to the point that it disintegrates, producing break down and dysfunctionality. This is usually a temporary condition but the medical treatment given may be so severe and insensitive (another form of enmity), that they are permanently damaged.

Saturn in the twelfth experiences the form-destroying aspect of the life with a sense of purposelessness, despair and negativity.

All these conditions cause considerable distress to the personality but they are a great incentive to the person who is ready to access soul consciousness. If a person with Venus in the twelfth is getting only 5 units of love from his close relationships, he’s eligible for 95 units from a higher level. That should raise any personality onto a new level of consciousness.

Children born in the 1960s with Uranus conjunct Pluto in Virgo in the twelfth were frequently subject to abuse and cruelty, often involving parents and guardians against whom they were helpless, which sent them into a different place in their minds. Most kept this a secret, unaware that they had broken through the cortical that separates the personality consciousness from the soul consciousness. As adults, therapy and support as victims of abuse was available to them but few, as far as I am aware, were ever shown how to make their secret place and the powers that it brings a part of everyday life.

People with Pluto in the twelfth have incredible powers of creative visualisation. If he knows how, a person with this placement can bring into being a new reality that he can control.

When read with this in mind, Sepharial’s description of Pluto in the twelfth may not seem so irrelevant.

Pluto (in the twelfth house) has a very peculiar influence in that it can destroy enemies, and so prevent possible personal loss, unhappiness and strain. The banishing influence will operate very markedly when the actions of enemies, or unfair competitors, becomes too marked, for in a very subtle manner, circumstances will arise that will seem to banish the enemy or competitor from the person’s environment, and remove them to such a distance from the person that their power to do harm will be negated.

To access the compensations we have to break out of self-pity and victim mentality, demonstrate wisdom and take responsibility for self.

I would encourage any one involved, directly or indirectly; in a breakdown brought about by a twelfth house Moon to use the medical authorities as the last, not the first resort. It is the medication that does the damage, not the temporary insanity, because sedation shuts down a natural process of clearance realignment. In a person with the Moon in the twelfth, the idea of self is weak because he does not have a sense of belonging to strengthen his identity. He absorbs psychic impressions like a sponge and periodically has to discharge them, rather as a computer has to be cleaned up and defragged.

In the main, conventional medicine does not understand self- healing processes. It anticipates and treats continual deterioration.

To understand the twelfth house we have to understand the personality’s relationship to the soul, its informing life, and the point of coming into incarnation. We are here with a job to do and with certain capacities to enable us to do that job. The person with planets in the twelfth house is being direct help from a higher level but first he has to get passed the perception that he is an unfortunate victim and has to learn to recognise and value the compensation.

Without a second thought, most young people with Venus in the twelfth would trade their entitlement to 95 units of divine love for just a few more crumbs of human love because this is the power that the idea of relationship has over us and because they simply may not be aware of what is on offer to them.

This is true of all forms of compensation available through the twelfth house.

But experience and a good astrologer may be able to change that. D.K. Foundation students are taught how to work with distressing twelfth house conditions so that they can alert a person to the compensations that exists for him

I am off to remote places now, hoping to prevail over secret enemies and have some success with large animals. You have a good summer too.

Suzanne Rough

[astrid]

Cool, i have collected quite a library now of Astro books and mp3s.
If anyone is looking for anything in particular on this subject feel free to pm me.

[ZuLiZ]

Now I'm excited to know what planets are in my twelfth house. It's very interesting this whole astrology discussion. Looking forward to reading more on this............

[ulli]

Now I'm excited to know what planets are in my twelfth house. It's very interesting this whole astrology discussion. Looking forward to reading more on this............

One easy way of figuring this one out- if you were born during the first two hours after sunrise it means you have the sun in the 12th house.

On a chart wheel that is the area between the 9 o'clock and 10 o'clock position.
The Ascendant is always at the left of the circle, at 9 o'clock, the first house is just below that, and the 12th house is above it.

[Simone]

Hi Ulli,

Would you mind doing a reading for me? I don't know much about Astrology (only horoscopes from mags and newspapers), but I’m fascinated by it and interested in getting a personalized reading from you - I can see everyone had been finding your readings very helpful here!! :)

My details are:

Birth date: Thursday 1st July 1982
Time: 4pm
Lat/Long Coordinates: -31.949681,115.818905
I’m sure the coordinates are correct for where I was born according to http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html (I was born in Subiaco, Perth, Australia)

I really hope I got all the above details right for you to do a reading - I was a bit worried to post this in case I got the coordinates wrong and looked like a dork!
I don’t know anything about the planets and what info you may need for that. Please let me know if I need more info!

Thank you for offering this wonderful service!!

Simone xx

[ulli]

Part of a channeled message by Lauren Gorgo.
Food for thought.
Posted today by Onawah here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28047-Lauren-Gorgo-Wheel-of-Fortune-The-Turning-Point-2011-August-15


…”there are 12 fundamental spiritual energies in our universe which seek a physical expression. This expression (where a planetary energy operates or is released in our lives) is accomplished thru 12 zodiac signs, 12 astrological houses and 12 planets. And just as each of the 12 astrological houses has its own ruling planet, meaning and associated zodiac sign… each of our chakras have their own ruling planet, meaning and associated zodiac sign. These 12 cosmic/celestial energies…the vital forces of existence… are expressed thru the human body via 12 chakras which connect to the 12 strands of activated DNA in the new-human template, or the original divine-human blueprint…and each of the 12 strands of our DNA correlates to one of the twelve aspects of multi-dimensional consciousness, or perceptual fields of awareness.”

In other words, I am told that these (prophesied) events…however they unfold and whatever they are called…herald the the beginning of cosmic consciousness, the entrance into spiritual adulthood/galactic citizenship both for the planet and for those who are leading the planet to this destination, and all “happen” to take place right around the end of the 9th wave and the completion of the Mayan Calendar (10/28/11).

And just to stretch you a bit further, this cosmic event that they refer to will supposedly have “a major impact on the magnetic grid, so much so that a reversal of polarity will take place…but not in the way that has been aggrandized.” My feeling is that this is not necessarily an electromagnetic pole shift as some believe, but a shift in the polarity of consciousness.

Again, no one (myself included) has any solid idea of exactly what or how this will come to pass…which is mostly the fun of it all. The point is to simply remain a witness to the unfolding while maintaining a sense of calm, wonder and awe as many more people awaken and hook into the global resonance required for this new world to operate.

[ulli]

Now I'm excited to know what planets are in my twelfth house. It's very interesting this whole astrology discussion. Looking forward to reading more on this............

I have some things to attend to so I can't do the interpretation right now, but here are your sign and house positions:

Read up whatever you can find about the 4th house. You have no planets in the 12th.
Asc Taurus, Midheaven Pisces
Sun in Virgo 4th, Moon in Virgo 4th, Mercury in Leo 3rd, Venus in Virgo 4th, Mars in Virgo 4th, Jupiter in Scorpio 7th, Saturn in Capricorn 8th, Uranus in Leo 3rd, Neptune in Scorpio 6th, Pluto in Virgo 4th.
Any of the above can be googled and you will glean something about yourself.have fun.
The lottery still stands unless you figure it all out by yourself, in which case we can just chat about it.

[ZuLiZ]

Thanks Ulli. It's national day here in Indonesia so I'm home with time to spare. Looks as though I have a heavy presence in the 4th house so I'm curious about that and being a Taurus ascendent also and I have loads of Virgo everywhere. Will spend some time Googling now. Also love the channeled post - not long to go now - we are all living on this amazing planet having an amazing physical experience - how can it possibly not be something other than amazing!!

[ulli]

I had this weird inner vision this morning while looking at the mountain outside my window as the rising sun turned all those dim colours to a variety of vivid greens. I was thinking of the astrological houses, in particular house seven, eight and nine, and how they relate to enlightenment.

House seven, being associated with Libra, rules partnership.
By attempting to create equality in such partnership, creating justice, or balance, something special happens, and that opens the door to the eight house.

The eight is associated with Scorpio, with death and rebirth, and the penetration to those mysteries behind the veil. The realm of the psychic.

So after having developed our inner person in the first six houses, and learnt from the seventh how to bring about harmony in our outer lives, with the spouse, we get the first glimpse of the majesty of the beyond.

This is our reward, or I should say consequence... a more neutral way of putting it, this discovery of the mysterious worlds of the eighth house, the other dimension, the astral.

Yet here there are still fresh dualities, a mix of darkness and light...and more harmonizing is needed. Once the lessons of the eight are understood and we don't fall into the trap of power hunger we are led to the door of the ninth house, nearing the top of the chart wheel. This is where we can get the first real vision of God and eternity.

The ninth is associated with Sagittarius, the seeker. To him/her nothing of the lower world matters any longer...only the "Beloved", as Rumi would refer to God.

Once the vision or enlightenment has happened there is a new choice.
We are now at the point between Sadge and Capricorn, or their respective planets, Jupiter and Saturn, which happen to be the two biggies in our solar system. We are at he top of the chart wheel here, the zenith, the midheaven.....and between the two houses that are ruled by the biggest planets in our solar system.
This part of the realization was totally new to me.

Jupiter and the ninth house is full of promise, yet Saturn has those rings, like a belt, confining.
The choice at this point is whether to roam in those upper realms forever, never committing to anything, forever looking to repeat the ecstasy of finding, finding, finding, or ask what is next?

The answer is of course 'before enlightenment- carry water, chop wood, after enlightenment- carry water, chop wood."
Duty calling.

Which brings us to the tenth house...the work station, the office. Here we have to bring our ninth house vision down to the valley, where the people live.
We have to show them how to structure their society, show them how elect their governments, obey the rulers they themselves have put in place, and follow their leaders. Once this works, and regular elections provide a healthy always renewing elite of the cream of the cream of the people themselves,

then the eleventh house is attained.
Associated with Aquarius...the humanitarian.
Here the group is vibrant, friendships are formed, without battles for leadership, without egos. All resources are shared, and regular innovation brings overall growth.
The just society, or utopia, that everyone has dreamt of for millenia.

So with this we come to the door of the last house: the twelvth. The house of self sacrifice, where all boundaries dissolve.
Here we can do away with money, measurements, divisions.
All are as one...drops of one ocean, leaves of one tree.....heaven on earth.

So having written down my breakfast musings I'm curious to see what lunch and dinner will bring.

[ulli]

Elenin is mostly in Libra and Virgo during it's approach,
so we can expect changes in matters to do with those two signs...

Virgo: diet, health, resources, work relationships.
Libra: culture, style...also justice, law.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Hello everybody. Ulli and I have spoken and we think it might be a nice idea to have a Q&A session in the chatroom.

The first session will be held on Monday between 4 and 6 pm Central time. If it's a success, it may become a regular occurence :-)

To participate, enter the chatroom and type:


/join "Astrology Q&A"

Anybody who has trouble in this way can ask me in the main chatroom or via forum PM and I will bring them into the room.

The room will be monitored to ensure that it is orderly and that the time and attention Ulli will be devoting will not be wasted. (Casual conversation is fine in ordinary circumstances, and the normal chat room will still be available for that). Also, please note that because this is a public affair, it would be inappropriate to ask for natal chart interpretations. This is your chance to ask all the questions you want to ask about astrology, so get thinking what you want to ask, and see you on Monday

[astrid]

what a excellent idea , thanks!!

[astrid]

55m-XPtRV90


"This is a week to be careful and observant of your own mind. It is easy to tell yourself stories (and be told stories ie. deceived) to ease the sense of frustration, isolation, and separation from the heavenly, spiritual bliss of infinite love. There is no escape to facing yourself and doing your work and part of that work is patience, inner listening and ignoring "quick fix" solutions to big, karmic, issues. I spoke a bit on the comet Elenin but not enough so check my website for more. Tricky water to maneuver this weekend.... wishing you the best... namaste'"

[ulli]

Here is your reading, Dan_33.

Maybe I don't need to go into detail about Aries, everyone knows by now that Aries men in particular
are feudal overlords from the 17th century.
The world is theirs, and the people are their subjects.

They love life, and adventure. But in your case, since you were born after sunset,
which means the sun was in the sixth house, there is another element, namely WORK.
Yes, I know, a four letter word.
It has to be done, even though you have the moon in the 9th house,
which means your feelings long to escape and travel...
yet there is always more work to be done...it never ends.
But if you are lucky you can have a holiday home far away.


Then the other bummer is having Mars in the sixth house...and in Aries, too..
so there are health concerns, Aries governs the head so often there are migraines.

Mercury in Taurus in the seventh...a more considerate pen pal cannot be found.
Always knows how and when to cheer up your friends and partners.
A sensual romantic.

With Jupiter also in Taurus there is love of music, luxury, culture...
this is because Venus rules Taurus...so you are a culture bearer.

Saturn in Pisces in the 4th house: maybe a solitary childhood, or a strict father...
or allowing friends to stay until they take over, leaving you with diminished space...
these are Saturn hardships invading the space that should be reserved for your recuperation and rest.

Uranus Pluto conjunction in Virgo in the 10th...more indication of workaholism,
or obsessive pursuit of one's goals...perfectionism.
Uranus there brings unexpected changes, but also originality...and much innovative creativity.

The Leo Midheaven shows prominence in one's work, leadership capacity,
very practical, but also pomp and glamour.

Neptune in Scorpio in the first house: a self sacrificing personality..somewhat elusive, maybe recluse.

Scorpio Ascendant you are dynamic and irrisistible. You know how to conserve your energy,
operating in solitude. You may ask advice from others, but in the end keep your own counsel.
Once you are determined to get something you might even feel the need to use manipulation,
although that may have become less so after passing the age of 25.
Pluto is making a trine aspect to your natal Uranus, so there should be good work prospects right now.
You are your own man, Dan, a high capacity person.

[ulli]

I wrote this a few days ago during the line-up of Venus and Mercury with the sun, which made a trine aspect to my Venus in Sagittarius at 25 degrees.

Twentysix degrees of Sagittarius is the Galactic Center, and much inspiration comes flooding in when that stargate opens via transits.


"I had this weird inner vision this morning while looking at the mountain outside my window as the rising sun turned all those dim colours to a variety of vivid greens. I was thinking of the astrological houses, in particular house seven, eight and nine, and how they relate to enlightenment.

House seven, being associated with Libra, rules partnership.
By attempting to create equality in such partnership, creating justice, or balance, something special happens, and that opens the door to the eight house.

The eight is associated with Scorpio, with death and rebirth, and the penetration to those mysteries behind the veil. The realm of the psychic.

So after having developed our inner person in the first six houses, and learnt from the seventh how to bring about harmony in our outer lives, with the spouse, we get the first glimpse of the majesty of the beyond.

This is our reward, or I should say consequence... a more neutral way of putting it, this discovery of the mysterious worlds of the eighth house, the other dimension, the astral.

Yet here there are still fresh dualities, a mix of darkness and light...and more harmonizing is needed. Once the lessons of the eight are understood and we don't fall into the trap of power hunger we are led to the door of the ninth house, nearing the top of the chart wheel. This is where we can get the first real vision of God and eternity.

The ninth is associated with Sagittarius, the seeker. To him/her nothing of the lower world matters any longer...only the "Beloved", as Rumi would refer to God.

Once the vision or enlightenment has happened there is a new choice.
We are now at the point between Sadge and Capricorn, or their respective planets, Jupiter and Saturn, which happen to be the two biggies in our solar system. We are at he top of the chart wheel here, the zenith, the midheaven.....and between the two houses that are ruled by the biggest planets in our solar system.
This part of the realization was totally new to me.

Jupiter and the ninth house is full of promise, yet Saturn has those rings, like a belt, confining.
The choice at this point is whether to roam in those upper realms forever, never committing to anything, forever looking to repeat the ecstasy of finding, finding, finding, or ask what is next?

The answer is of course 'before enlightenment- carry water, chop wood, after enlightenment- carry water, chop wood."
Duty calling.

Which brings us to the tenth house...the work station, the office. Here we have to bring our ninth house vision down to the valley, where the people live.
We have to show them how to structure their society, show them how elect their governments, obey the rulers they themselves have put in place, and follow their leaders. Once this works, and regular elections provide a healthy always renewing elite of the cream of the cream of the people themselves,

then the eleventh house is attained.
Associated with Aquarius...the humanitarian.
Here the group is vibrant, friendships are formed, without battles for leadership, without egos. All resources are shared, and regular innovation brings overall growth.
The just society, or utopia, that everyone has dreamt of for millenia.

So with this we come to the door of the last house: the twelvth. The house of self sacrifice, where all boundaries dissolve.
Here we can do away with money, measurements, divisions.
All are as one...drops of one ocean, leaves of one tree.....heaven on earth.

So having written down my breakfast musings I'm curious to see what lunch and dinner will bring.

[ulli]

The lottery brought up Sierra....
I don't see you online...
So I'll have me a little siesta first.

[Sierra]

I'm here I'm here!

[ulli]

Here we go, Sierra

You have Cancer Asc as well as a Sun-Neptune conjunction in the 4th house, which rules Cancer
so I can safely say you are a homeloving woman, thoroughly domesticated and talented home-provider.
The Moon in Capricorn in the 7th house indicates that in partnership matters also there is this cancerian nurturing going on,
yet you don't strike me as 100% earth mother.

That would come from the Scorpio Mercury, which gives you the mind of a detective, and penetrating intellect.
You can fathom any whodunnit movie long before the end.
Then the trine from Uranus in your 12th house enhances your mercurial talent even more
and provides you with a great deal of intuition.
Mercury was retrograde when you were born, which can delay communication development in the early years,
something that often becomes a spring board for doubling one's efforts in mastering all sorts of communication skills
later in life.
The Saturn Venus conjunction in Virgo means in relationship matters you are picky and perfectionistic.
Occasionally your crabby Cancerian will whine that nobody loves you,
when in reality you don't want anybody to come near you.
So you can put on a reserved cool front. But then your Libra self catches up
and throws out that net and charms everyone back in.
You are a dreamer, you LOVE to escape.
Mars in Scorpio means you need to let off steam regularly,
in small dragon puffs, so that it doesn't build up and become atomic.
(I hope this doesn't get me banned here...)
Uranus in the 12th...you get these amazing technicolour dreams...
night time traveliing in futuristic worlds
Pluto in the second: finances are all or nothing...some fears there of being left destitute...
yet at times Pluto being fertile, supplies you with more goodies than you ever dreamt of.
Right now Saturn is wobbling between your Sun Neptune conjunction,
so some aspect of your life is being saturnized, or restricted.
It will pass, and the lessons are worth it.

The Midheaven in Pisces shows you wish you could help everyone,
and if you can bring all the inner personalities into harmony
then the power of your vision can bring about a better world not only for yourself
but for everyone else as well, especially the cat kingdom.

[Sierra]

Ulli. You. Are. Awesome. Reading and absorbing right now. I'll be back with feedback later today. :)

Thank you.

Sierra

[ulli]

Ulli. You. Are. Awesome. Reading and absorbing right now. I'll be back with feedback later today. :)

Thank you.

Sierra

That's what they all say....

[ulli]

From Sun Sign Humor http://astrologyexpressed.wordpress.com/sun-sign-humor/


Lunch at the Zodiac Grill

Aries: *picking up a rifle* I’ll go hunting and get an animal; we can have that for lunch.

Taurus: Oh, lovely. I’ll bring out that nice pastel tablecloth and get flowers from the garden. You make soup and be sure to put lots of cream in it.

Gemini: Let’s go for a movie, we can get something to eat on the way. Afterwards, we can go to that book reading I was talking about. Mary and Spence will be there and we can grab a drink with them later on.

Cancer: Lunch today, yes. But with the way the economy is, how many more lunches do we have left? I wish I was kid again and watching Mom bake for me! *sniff*

Leo: I hope I look okay! What do you think? Should I have gotten my hair streaked for this lunch date?

Virgo: Lunch? No, thanks. I’ve got a packet of prunes I’m going to eat at my desk while I proofread these documents.

Libra: *retouching her make-up and spraying on Chanel No. 5* I met this gorgeous man at the ‘How to find True Love’ seminar and he’s taking me out to lunch!

Scorpio: *in a deep, smoky voice* Lunch…I will eat you, ma chérie. (He means it, ladies! )

Sagittarius: I’m going for this ‘Human Rights for All’ thing, you know? Then I’m going for my philosophy class, I’ll get something in the cafeteria.

Capricorn: Mr. Brown’s invited me for lunch in the Executive Dining Room. All that hard work has finally paid off.

Aquarius: *to his girl friend* Hey, buddy, sure! I’ll pick you up at midnight and we’ll go to the beach and share our pickled onions with the dolphins.

Pisces: Food is just energy. You can get the same thing from being loving and compassionate and yogic breathing. *inhales deeply*

[ThePythonicCow]

(I hope this doesn't get me banned here...)
If your goal is to get banned from here ... you're going to have to work a whole lot harder at it than that ;) ;)

[ulli]

(I hope this doesn't get me banned here...)
If your goal is to get banned from here ... you're going to have to work a whole lot harder at it than that ;) ;)

like what?
do all the mods charts
point out their weaknesses
then use the stars to time
the coup that outs them?
Then sit back and watch the floodgates open
as everyone from Nexus and Atticus1.org comes back spilling in?
I think not.

[Carmody]

Ulli. You. Are. Awesome. Reading and absorbing right now. I'll be back with feedback later today. :)

Thank you.

Sierra

That's what they all say....

Bounty Hunter: "....I had to come back"

Josey: "I Know"

C3Oa2tLrWqY

;) :p

When you know, your being begins to transform. Some part of you leaves, some part is born. Kinda like the point of living....it is.

(I tried to embed the link into the text, but It won't let me...)

[ulli]

There are no surprises any more...
not even when faced with my own past
of being a Clint Eastwood fan...

Now onto the High Plains, drifting

[Carmody]

There are no surprises any more...
not even when faced with my own past
of being a Clint Eastwood fan...

Now onto the High Plains, drifting

I'm the world and word association guy, a George Carlin, staring out from the wonder of my self as a view at the wonder of the world and my own fingers.

Somebody spoke and I went into a dream....

EOcs0D5bZio

[ulli]

Thanks Carmody. What a treat!!!!
All those great song writers used a similar method you described above...
I read recently how the song Jumping Jack Flash got it's name.
It was in Keith Richards' autobiography.

Early one morning when Mick Jagger was visiting at Keith's farmhouse
he heard this strange noise outside
and asked Keith about it. Says Keith: It's the gardener, Jack.
I call him Jumping Jack, because he has a funny walk.
Jagger, hearing those words and always on the lookout for writing material, says FLASH!
then Keith connects all of it, and makes the string Jumping Jack Flash, It's a Gas Gas Gas.
Doesn't make a lot of sense but sounds great.

[Carmody]

Thanks Carmody. What a treat!!!!
All those great song writers used a similar method you described above...
I read recently how the song Jumping Jack Flash got it's name.
It was in Keith Richards' autobiography.

Early one morning when Mick Jagger was visiting at Keith's farmhouse
he heard this strange noise outside
and asked Keith about it. Says Keith: It's the gardener, Jack.
I call him Jumping Jack, because he has a funny walk.
Jagger, hearing those words and always on the lookout for writing material, says FLASH!
then Keith connects all of it, and makes the string Jumping Jack Flash, It's a Gas Gas Gas.
Doesn't make a lot of sense but sounds great.

One of us wanted the rest of us to submit our poetry, so I tried my hand at it. (in 'the lighter side' area).

I was feeling down, I thought about how all this goes, this life, this flow, this..desire. This never ending..revelation, this burning down, the making of the space for the new....renewal.

This is all laid out, the given lessons the given being must learn, has decided to learn in their incarnation, this patterned life..playing out, as a reflection in time..Astrology.

The first thing that came to mind was..."Ashes of life". What do they do? well... the next line..."glowing like soft prayer". For the heck of it... I did it as song lyrics.

The embers that glow, that burn, sight and reason returns, the fire builds, again, and the bird is reborn.

thus: Laurie Anderson. Gravity's Angel


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY7uTO_GuDg

[ulli]

Thanks Carmody. What a treat!!!!
All those great song writers used a similar method you described above...
I read recently how the song Jumping Jack Flash got it's name.
It was in Keith Richards' autobiography.

Early one morning when Mick Jagger was visiting at Keith's farmhouse
he heard this strange noise outside
and asked Keith about it. Says Keith: It's the gardener, Jack.
I call him Jumping Jack, because he has a funny walk.
Jagger, hearing those words and always on the lookout for writing material, says FLASH!
then Keith connects all of it, and makes the string Jumping Jack Flash, It's a Gas Gas Gas.
Doesn't make a lot of sense but sounds great.

One of us wanted the rest of us to submit our poetry, so I tried my hand at it. (in 'the lighter side' area).

I was feeling down, I thought about how all this goes, this life, this flow, this..desire. This never ending..revelation, this burning down, the making of the space for the new....renewal.

This is all laid out, the given lessons the given being must learn, has decided to learn in their incarnation, this patterned life..playing out, as a reflection in time..Astrology.

The first thing that came to mind was..."Ashes of life". What do they do? well... the next line..."glowing like soft prayer". For the heck of it... I did it as song lyrics.

I know you have "good" transits right now.
You could write down what is going on in your head
and compare those thoughts to what happens to you
during square aspects.
The mystery of what makes our thoughts and consciousness
is never more evident than when star gates open during transits.

I have Uranus sextile my natal Mars at the moment
and started training my kitten, using a small toy on a stick,
and I arranged four dining chairs in a circle
and kitten jumps from chair to chair, like the lions in a circus.
All I need now is a ring of fire.
I have no doubt it will make it through that, too.
So with Uranus doing his stuff, and my Mars being involved
I am becoming an animal trainer.

Well, the kitten is the one who is insisting...pity I don't know her birthdate.

[ulli]

[/COLOR][QUOTE=Carmody;288686]
One of us wanted the rest of us to submit our poetry, so I tried my hand at it. (in 'the lighter side' area).

I was feeling down, I thought about how all this goes, this life, this flow, this..desire. This never ending..revelation, this burning down, the making of the space for the new....renewal.

This is all laid out, the given lessons the given being must learn, has decided to learn in their incarnation, this patterned life..playing out, as a reflection in time..Astrology.

The first thing that came to mind was..."Ashes of life". What do they do? well... the next line..."glowing like soft prayer". For the heck of it... I did it as song lyrics.

The embers that glow, that burn, sight and reason returns, the fire builds, again, and the bird is reborn.

thus: Laurie Anderson. Gravity's Angel


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY7uTO_GuDg


I never heard of Laurie Anderson...
If I hadn't left London in the early eighties I would have known this artist.
That was my kind of music back then...perfect for being creative by.
Listening to all her songs on youtube now.

[Gaia]

Love astrology can help me to see myself in a fresh new light and obtain a greater understanding...

[Carmody]

I never heard of Laurie Anderson...
If I hadn't left London in the early eighties I would have known this artist.
That was my kind of music back then...perfect for being creative by.
Listening to all her songs on youtube now.

About 5-7 years ago, I read a line about her, from a reviewer. They said, "Did you hear the news? Laurie Anderson married Lou Reed. It's so poetic."

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28135-I-Wanna-Go-Home&p=288907&viewfull=1#post288907

[ulli]

I never heard of Laurie Anderson...
If I hadn't left London in the early eighties I would have known this artist.
That was my kind of music back then...perfect for being creative by.
Listening to all her songs on youtube now.



About 5-7 years ago, I read a line about her, from a reviewer. They said, "Did you hear the news? Laurie Anderson married Lou Reed. It's so poetic."



She does look like the sort of woman a drug addicted Pisces male would lean on.
The last time I saw him was in Amsterdam, (1974) where he had to be carried onto the stage and positioned in front of the microphone by his roadies, he was so out of it he couldn't walk by himself. Brave woman.
But it looks like he had twenty years in which to sober up for her.

[Sierra]

<snip>
then the eleventh house is attained.
Associated with Aquarius...the humanitarian.
Here the group is vibrant, friendships are formed, without battles for leadership, without egos. All resources are shared, and regular innovation brings overall growth.
The just society, or utopia, that everyone has dreamt of for millenia.

So with this we come to the door of the last house: the twelvth. The house of self sacrifice, where all boundaries dissolve.
Here we can do away with money, measurements, divisions.
All are as one...drops of one ocean, leaves of one tree.....heaven on earth.

So having written down my breakfast musings I'm curious to see what lunch and dinner will bring.

The Creator hold me up while weeping ulli, if this is what you have for breakfast
Sierra :)

[Sierra]

Here we go, Sierra

You have Cancer Asc as well as a Sun-Neptune conjunction in the 4th house, which rules Cancer
so I can safely say you are a homeloving woman, thoroughly domesticated and talented home-provider.


Totally. Completely. Think Beth in Little Women. Bookworm homebody. Isn't there a Sun-Neptune conjunction going on right now? So I must be reverberating with that energy right now.



The Moon in Capricorn in the 7th house indicates that in partnership matters also there is this cancerian nurturing going on,


True. I am married to a manic depressive husband who requires enormous energy. Well he did or maybe I only thought he did or maybe I am letting go of what I thought he needed... Now I am in the process of detach and observe ;).



yet you don't strike me as 100% earth mother.


Yes, not quite that earthy. My Aquarian husband has electronic up the wazoo in every room. My husband is (and I was) a programmer and we have a highly nerdly household with its own servers, routers etc. Every book Tolkien, a Tolkien descendent, a Tolkien biographer, a Tolkien essayist has ever written is in my husband's possession.
We are both heavy duty scifi/fantasy readers and movie goers.
My husband likes to play seven scrabble players online at once lol. I like to hang here on Avalon. So we nerd out together in companionship snrt.



That would come from the Scorpio Mercury, which gives you the mind of a detective, and penetrating intellect.
You can fathom any whodunnit movie long before the end.


I have both Mercury and Mars in Scorpio? For some reason I thought I had Mercury in Libra, my sun sign. To me that looks like communication could go easily south. Sigh. And you know how Librans are about communication. Can't live without it.



Then the trine from Uranus in your 12th house enhances your mercurial talent even more and provides you with a great deal of intuition.


I think so. I used to do palmistry. Intuition is displayed in the palm, not in the lines but in the whorls. I have the whorls of intuition (lower outer edge pad of your hand were you to do a karate chop would touch the boundary of the mound of intuition) on my unconscious hand but not my conscious hand. So, it is very hard for me to tell whether I am being intuitive or not.



Mercury was retrograde when you were born, which can delay communication development in the early years,
something that often becomes a spring board for doubling one's efforts in mastering all sorts of communication skills
later in life.


Mother and grandmother barely got language in me before the tabula rasa bio development stage ended at age four. Born deaf, attended what was at the time an experimental lipreading program at SF State during elementary school years 3 days a week after school. My sisters were also trained how to teach me to speak and to speak clearly. My older sister was mistaken for a trained actress in New York City because of her clarity of speech.

I was a sphinx for the first few decades of my life. Now I can't shut up er... can't shut up online. Not in person. Well, one on one. I can do one on one conversation in person very well if the room is not noisy, and the light is on the other's face. I can do a formal sit down dinner with measured conversation, again in good light and with quiet. A circle of people shooting dialog quickly across a living room floor everyone facing every which direction where I can't tell who to lipread next, not so much.



The Saturn Venus conjunction in Virgo means in relationship matters you are picky and perfectionistic.
Occasionally your crabby Cancerian will whine that nobody loves you,
when in reality you don't want anybody to come near you.
So you can put on a reserved cool front. But then your Libra self catches up
and throws out that net and charms everyone back in.


Oh my poor husband! Is that what he lives with? It sounds very volatile. I am going to have to read this section a few times to impress it in consciousness so I can match it to behavior and see it... He is not here (company getting product out to market tonight and Sunday and next weekend) or I would ask him. And yes, totally true I need large amounts of downtime and privacy. And yes, I whine I am starving for affection and attention as well, so he just can't win.

I did not know that crabbiness was a Cancerian trait, my sister was a Cancer and she had that in spades lol. Yes, I use my charm to jolly my depressed husband as much as I can. He appreciates it (he admits he won't admit it sometimes snrt). (I don't believe this but my husband just came home. He hates anything to do with woo woo but he consented to listen to the description and he says I am mellowly perfectionistic, not irritatingly perfectionistic) (Would I call him tactful, discreet?)(Not telling!)<falling over laughing><he is so cool, he watches What Not to Wear and Project Runway with me><Yes, see, I'm totally Libran into fashion><on others><I just wear linen because otherwise I am too hot><and he massages my neck most every night, yes ladies, be jealous, be very jealous>.



You are a dreamer, you LOVE to escape.


So very word ulli.



Mars in Scorpio means you need to let off steam regularly,
in small dragon puffs, so that it doesn't build up and become atomic.
(I hope this doesn't get me banned here...)


Snrt. As if we'd ever let you go ulli, not a chance. Yes, I've learned this in the last two years of our almost 23 year old marriage. It still terrifies the bejabers out of me to do it, but boy I am really doing it regularly and with great effect. I'm rather proud of myself in this regard. I must really trust him is all I can say.



Uranus in the 12th...you get these amazing technicolour dreams...
night time traveliing in futuristic worlds


I used to. I use medical marijuana now so I don't remember my dreams anymore.



Pluto in the second: finances are all or nothing...some fears there of being left destitute...
yet at times Pluto being fertile, supplies you with more goodies than you ever dreamt of.


Word. Again.



Right now Saturn is wobbling between your Sun Neptune conjunction,
so some aspect of your life is being saturnized, or restricted.
It will pass, and the lessons are worth it.


The lessons are always worth it, I know now. This particular lesson I am learning I've never dealt with before. It is a disturbing place to be. I strive to move through it without judgement. Detach and observe is my mantra lately. Otherwise, agony. I know this. I feel as if I am walking the wire without a safety net. I feel as if balance is all. I feel an intense desire to remain sane. I feel as usual, the battle will be fought out inside me and no one around me will notice. I feel grateful to be in communication with you. I feel grateful for this language of Astrology that allows us to communicate real things. I feel Saturn's approaching conjunction with my Sun sign. I am nervous, but resigned but also intensely curious, what will happen next? Breathe.



The Midheaven in Pisces shows you wish you could help everyone,
and if you can bring all the inner personalities into harmony
then the power of your vision can bring about a better world not only for yourself
but for everyone else as well, especially the cat kingdom.

I do wish. I do indeed.

Ulli, these days I feel like I have a leaping heart, my head can't focus on a thing, I am deliriously happy for no reason, and all is well with my soul. And I cook and clean and happily chirp at the birds it is positively sickeningly sweet to be me.

I never thought I'd get here, to this place in life, considering the energy requirements as outlined in shamanic knowledge. I spent my working career being physically sick, exhausted and emotionally battered on a regular basis. When I retired, I had to SIT for three or four years to recover from the toxicity of the professional world. Now, my focus is to get my body back in shape so I can continue cracking open like an egg which seems to be what I wish to do <gigglesnrt>. Have no idea what is happening but I am enjoying the ride.

Sierra bleeding light :wave:

[ulli]

Sierra, your feedback made me cry...I'm so moved. Thank you, thank you, for sharing.
Yes astrology is a language which gives the apparent absurdities of life shape and form.
Your marriage sounds totally like my son's...he is also an Aquarian, they also have every nook and cranny of the house stuffed with sci-fantasy books as well as comics. My son writes graphic novels, some comics.
She is not a Libra, but has Venus cunjunct her Taurus sun, so a very similar factor. Plus they have three cats, they rescued a three legged cat, and since it is a hind leg that is missing they scratch those body parts that would have been reached by the missing leg. Have a look at his site www.somefield.com. The girl in his drawings is his wife...she is a doll, used to be a doll collector..and really beautiful. All those beautiful objects in their home mixed with his gadgets...if you could only see it...that you and your husband have a "double" living in Barbados.
The sun Neptune conjunction happens only once every year, when the sun overtakes Neptune. Since Neptune is currently at the end of Aquarius that conjunction would happen in February.
The recent talk about Neptune was about retrograde Mercury in Leo opposite Neptune in Aquarius.
I had to squeeze this little lesson in there...want everyone to learn my language, which I love so much.
Translating real life events to the corresponding planetary events gives me jaw drops on a daily basis, something my Mars-Mercury conjunction in Aquarius is addicted to.
P.S. I'm going to share your post here with my daughter-in-law...it might help her with her relationship with my son.

[Carmody]

For some reason, Julian May's series came to mind, starting with this:

The Many Colored Land

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT6114zc51zcqS6GiK0digAj-bhs_obJcn3FExvizVdt7BH2PvKwA

I'm guessing that all involved (as indicated readers of such) in these last few posts, as sci-fi/fantasy fans, have read this series. The thematic aspects of the series cover just about every angle of being human, combined with the science, within the scope of what we know and what we suspect. All combined into an involving and riveting tale. I speak not on the content of the set of four books -in case one has not read them.

The art of Micheal Whelan. Note the colors. The blue, the red, and the violet.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/fullsize/2142200670103936585zIbyam

I could simply fall into most of his imagery forever, and be a very happy guy, no matter the outcome. At the same time, I tire of this place (here)... for the desire, the pressure to release, to move, to act, to shift ---is near unbearable.

Here's one for the cat peoples:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/fullsize/2861770740103936585BCuxiq

And the site they came from:

http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/574337383YHnmOg?start=0

edit: After all this time..I just now noticed that...If you look closely, you will note that Micheal Whelan managed to slip his mark into the insignia on the flag of the cover art for the Many Colored Land.

[ulli]

I could simply fall into most of his imagery forever, and be a very happy guy, no matter the outcome. At the same time, I tire of this place (here)... for the desire, the pressure to release, to move, to act, to shift ---is near unbearable.

I know of one person with Neptune in Libra in the first bouse, who has a similar desire to escape from "here" as well.
She wanted to adopt two children... she said she had this immense amount of love to offer, (very Neptune) and which wants to be expressed, but then when the two children showed up, and reality (Saturn) struck, it all became such a momentous task that she spent years in bed with a variety of illnesses. In my view they were manifested as the result of her neptunian escape mechanism... she was lucky she had husband and staff to supervise.
She also had Moon in Cancer opposition to Jupiter... overestimating (Jupiter) her maternal capacity (Moon in Cancer).

[Sierra]

<snip> Note the colors. The blue, the red, and the violet.

Maybe that is why we like sunsets so much ...



Here's one for the cat peoples:


I strongly recommend the Chanur series by C.J. Cherryh, now there is cats for you :).

(and I do love the cats in the David Weber Honor Harrington series, though I faded there, whereas I will never fade on C.J. Cherryh) (except I don't like her early elven gate series, but all others are absolutely fabulous).

Ulli ... :hug: :kiss:

[ulli]

Just last week I saw the most amazing sunset ever, so I ran to my front door and took these piccies
(there are more on my profile page in an album I just made)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=9477&thumb=1&d=1313965427


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=9478&thumb=1&d=1313965456

[Carmody]

<snip> Note the colors. The blue, the red, and the violet.

Maybe that is why we like sunsets so much ...



Here's one for the cat peoples:


I strongly recommend the Chanur series by C.J. Cherryh, now there is cats for you :).

(and I do love the cats in the David Weber Honor Harrington series, though I faded there, whereas I will never fade on C.J. Cherryh) (except I don't like her early elven gate series, but all others are absolutely fabulous).

Ulli ... :hug: :kiss:

I've read some 4000 sci-fi/fantasy novels (mostly sci-fi) so I'm familiar with Chanur. I have all of these as original first pressings, and I even have Larry Niven's Ringworld as a First pressing. I stopped reading about 11 years ago. Not a single bit of fiction read since. I'm on the net now, paying it all back.

She, Chanur... as characters go, was, dare I say, 'way hot'.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/fullsize/2676857290103936585CzMIMR

This one holds a special place for me. To give you an idea, I was in someone's head and body last night, a woman. It was interesting to have hair again, especially long hair. To feel the pull of it, the motion of the scalp and head. I'd forgotten what that felt like.

"On a Pale Horse" (I do like my Fast Cars):

http://community.webshots.com/photo/fullsize/2757873640103936585LLWGRr



Those are nice sunsets, Ulli. Love the colors.

[ulli]

I was going to bring up some ideas how astrological signs can be associated with medical conditions.

As a rule one can pin the signs in sequence onto the body, starting with Aries for the head and Pisces for the feet.
there is more to it than this but this is a start.
So here goes:

ARIES ...............head
TAURUS ............throat
GEMINI ..............lungs
CANCER..............breast and stomach
LEO....................heart
VIRGO ...............digestive tracks
LIBRA ................kidneys
SCORPIO............genitals
SAGITTARIUS.....hips and thighs
CAPRICORN........knees
AQUARIUS..........shins
PISCES ..............feet

So these are vulnerable areas. Of course if one only has the sun in Cancer, but four planets are in Leo, then heart conditions are quite possible.
This is why it is a good idea to remember one's chart by heart, at least the planets in their signs and houses.
This is why I would like everyone to study the basics of astrology....
many illnesses can be prevented.
Geminis should not smoke, ever, their lungs are too delicate, hence many suffer from bronchitis, and even can get peumonia.
Taureans are musical and often have amazing voices, but should also avoid smoking, as they are prone to throat infections.

Tomorrow I will be in the chat room, and we can talk more about this.

[ulli]

This video deals with Pluto in Capricorn, so all Capricorns will benefit from watching this.
Those who are born in December will feel this transit already,
while the January birthday people will get it later, as this transit will last
until 2025.

This video also sheds quite a bit of light on the changes that are taking place in the world at the moment,
in terms of government (Capricorn) and the coming system changes (Pluto)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7NC39SSU6I&feature=related

[ulli]

Here is another video which I thought was rather good.

It deals with Saturn in Libra, so this would be a good one for you to watch, Sierra, since you have that transit coming up soon,
and he addresses Saturn in Libra as well as in the fourth house, which is where the transit is hitting you.

Astrologer D.K.Brainard


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrabqVI8d1o&NR=1

[ulli]

Here is your reading, ZuLiz

You were born with a Taurus Ascendant
and the sun, the moon, Venus, Mars,and Pluto in Virgo, all in the 4th house.

Your Ascendant determines who you are as a result of upbringing, environment and education.
So Taurus here means you learnt early to appreciate nature, beauty, music, food...all the good things of this earth.

But the large number of Virgo planets make you feel that nothting is quite right, and everything needs correcting.
Virgo sees "the problem" and if you have the energy to put order into the chaos you are perceiving all around you,
then you will be happy. Virgos are true workaholics.

Since all your Virgo planets are in the 4th house you may stay mostly close to family and indoors,
or in safe surroundings. This placing also gives you the ability to improve homes in general,
and often people with these planets like to study architecture.
In your case, since you have the Taurus Ascendant, you have the making of a landscape architect,
or even town planner. If you were just starting out with your life, and your parents came to ask me what you should study,
this is where I would point them. But as this excercise is about looking at astrology for the talents and tendencies, perhaps you can let me know if this profession ever appealed to you.

There is a right angle between Jupiter and Uranus, indicating independence.
This is in total contrast to having the moon in the 4th house which shows that one stays close to parents...
so perhaps these opposite traits caused you some stress in your life.

Jupiter in the 7th house shows a happy marriage, where both partners give each other space.
Venus conjunct Pluto in the 4th house means even though you would be picky about who to give your heart to,
once you do fall in fall you are passionate.
Saturn in Capricorn, in the 8th house, was trine your fourth house planets,
and this brings to mind that you could have a special responsibility to do with inheritance
and need to take care of houses.
There is also a stress area between wanting to be on a careful, strict diet (Virgo planets)
and indulging yourself with food (Taurus Ascendant). The decision which way to go with this choice
depends how much work you want to dedicate yourself to, as only when you work hard do you feel fulfilled.

The next few years are mostly under positive influences,
as Jupiter makes a Trine to your Virgo Panets, as well as Pluto.
At least until Saturn enters Virgo, then life will become serious,
as he touches one planet after the next when he passes through your sign.

I strongly recommend that you study astrology,
especially look up the meaning for Saturn in Virgo,
and maybe even find a teacher near where you live.

[ulli]

if anyone wants to have a chat about their sign, I'm available for Q.and A. in the chatroom
just write /join "Astrology Q&A"
into the chat
see you there

[Sierra]

Thank you for your son's art website address. Your avatar is his artwork! Your daughter in law on the donkey is my favorite. Priceless. They are wearing matching shoes.

[ulli]

I'm the typical proud mother...can't help myself. Promoting him whenever I can...

[ulli]

Currently I have Saturn within a degree of my Neptune (possible loss) and quincunx my moon...affecting my maternal parts...and causing depression.
In the real world this has translated to my beloved kittie disappearing...I have not seen her since last night. She is 4 months old, and although has sometimes ventured out for a few hours, never been gone this long.
If anyone would like to use their mind/spirit power to send her back to me i would be very grateful.

This is what she looks like. Her name is Terra, but when I call her Kittie she normally comes running.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=9521&thumb=1&d=1314112038

[Lisab]

Oh ulli I rememberizing my cat I didn't sleep for days. Thankfully he came home. Sending love Lisax
Losing I mean. Damn ifone sorry

[ulli]

@ Lisab,

I don't know what you did, but she just came back.
Amazing!

Or maybe it was to do with me sending out the message of her disappearance.

She's BAAAAACK

[Lisab]

Yaaay I'm so happy for you both x

[Carmody]

I just looked at the chart for the current state of the heavens. A bit of earthquake activity is not unexpected. The point is that we had quite a few powerful alignments these past few days and the energy does not fade all that quickly.. It can build... and then release. Or, simply be around along enough at a higher oscillating level that it causes a bit of a snap in the earth's plates. These are scalar fields, time-space and matter, gravitation, etc, are based on them. So they tend to cast influence. Thus the rationale and the evidence of the correctness of astrology. It's right here in this thread.

[ZuLiZ]

Here is your reading, ZuLiz

You were born with a Taurus Ascendant
and the sun, the moon, Venus, Mars,and Pluto in Virgo, all in the 4th house.

Your Ascendant determines who you are as a result of upbringing, environment and education.
So Taurus here means you learnt early to appreciate nature, beauty, music, food...all the good things of this earth.

But the large number of Virgo planets make you feel that nothting is quite right, and everything needs correcting.
Virgo sees "the problem" and if you have the energy to put order into the chaos you are perceiving all around you,
then you will be happy. Virgos are true workaholics.

Since all your Virgo planets are in the 4th house you may stay mostly close to family and indoors,
or in safe surroundings. This placing also gives you the ability to improve homes in general,
and often people with these planets like to study architecture.
In your case, since you have the Taurus Ascendant, you have the making of a landscape architect,
or even town planner. If you were just starting out with your life, and your parents came to ask me what you should study,
this is where I would point them. But as this excercise is about looking at astrology for the talents and tendencies, perhaps you can let me know if this profession ever appealed to you.

There is a right angle between Jupiter and Uranus, indicating independence.
This is in total contrast to having the moon in the 4th house which shows that one stays close to parents...
so perhaps these opposite traits caused you some stress in your life.

Jupiter in the 7th house shows a happy marriage, where both partners give each other space.
Venus conjunct Pluto in the 4th house means even though you would be picky about who to give your heart to,
once you do fall in fall you are passionate.
Saturn in Capricorn, in the 8th house, was trine your fourth house planets,
and this brings to mind that you could have a special responsibility to do with inheritance
and need to take care of houses.
There is also a stress area between wanting to be on a careful, strict diet (Virgo planets)
and indulging yourself with food (Taurus Ascendant). The decision which way to go with this choice
depends how much work you want to dedicate yourself to, as only when you work hard do you feel fulfilled.

The next few years are mostly under positive influences,
as Jupiter makes a Trine to your Virgo Panets, as well as Pluto.
At least until Saturn enters Virgo, then life will become serious,
as he touches one planet after the next when he passes through your sign.

I strongly recommend that you study astrology,
especially look up the meaning for Saturn in Virgo,
and maybe even find a teacher near where you live.

Thanks so much for the input Ulli! I have actually been reading up online about it and am finding it a little confusing and extremely interesting at the same time!

The Virgo aspect of me is very true - I have with much inner work managed to change much of my thinking esp self-criticism. I have a strong understanding of the concept of the power of positive thinking and have learnt to pivot in my thinking whenever possible. So I'm mostly positive these days and look out through appreciative eyes.

I have a love of the aesthetic and although I hold down a regular job as a teacher, I've spent my life since my early 20s buying, renovating and selling houses. I love the whole concept of taking something and either remodelling or building from scratch. We have just finished a very beautiful home in Bali and I'm already thinking of my next project. I love to draw a design of anything, even a laundry cupboard - I will get out my sketch pad and draw it out with all the details and colour and specifications - then it gets stuck on my fridge for my husband to come along when he has time and make!! We are a great team he and I - I'm extremely blessed. My next project will be a wellness retreat with a twist!! However, I've never really thought about becoming a landscape architect, although I do love gardening too and am in the process of designing a sustainable garden that we can go and get our daily needs from. The whole creative element of home - it's kind of like my passion and hobby all rolled into one!

In terms of independence, I am fiercely independent and left home at 17. My parents had separated a few years earlier and I was living with my father. I felt that I should stay with him and look after him as he was an older father, however I had to go and discover who I was to become. During the whole time I have always made a home wherever I am - whether I owned it or rented it - it had to be comfortable and inviting. Very interesting as this is such an important part of my life and I'm not so sure that during my upbringing my family home was like that!

When does Saturn enter Virgo? I find that interesting and why is it mostly positive except because of this planet. Is it because this planet creates controversy or the planet of hard work? I will endeavour to find out more about Saturn and what I can expect from it.

I'm currently going through a change or cutting off period and thinking of moving into a new area - looking towards our next project so it seems that I might need to keep an eye on Saturn do you think?

Oh and BTW - the diet thing - I've spent my whole life doing the being good and healthy/ then indulging in comfort food/ being good and eating healthy etc.... I'm currently a vegetarian, non smoking, non drinking, fruit eater - to which most of my friends would say - I was more fun when I was the opposite of all those!!!

Thanks again Ulli. I look forward to many more of your very interesting observations of fellow astrologically inclined Avalonians

[ulli]

OMG, ZuLiz...I had a senior moment there....I guess I'm getting too old for this.
I had written down my notes for your reading, and later typed it into the laptop,
And of course, I made that classical mistake,
Of not reading my own handwriting properly.

You see, the symbol for Virgo and Scorpio is similar, they both look like the letter m, except on the Virgo symbol it ends with a loop, and the Scorpio symbol ends with an arrow...the famous stinger.

So I saw Virgo where I should have seen Scorpio. But I'm not even sorry, as this now is good news for you. Saturn left Virgo last year, is currently in Libra, and will not return to Virgo for another 27 or so years. But I am sorry in case I caused you unecessary worries.
Please forgive me.
And wow...Bali homes have to be the most beautiful in the world.
My absolute dream homes. I haven't been to Bali, but used to visit the island of Mustique in the Caribbean...
my good friend Arne Hasselqvist (R.I.P) had built a traditional Bali home in his own back garden for David Bowie.
I have moved house more than 40 times in my life, and am currently designing a house for ourselves, next to a river in the mountains of Costa Rica. The garden is already in place..have a look at the album I made on my profile page...
I would love to see one of the homes you built.
By the way, based on the analysis of the fourth house planets I have sent several kids into the architecture path, and one nephew just graduated. Yet when he was 13 he only wanted to become a soccer star, but I told him his energy level was too erratic, and he might run out of steam the middle of the match, and that he had to study architecture.
He is thrilled now that his mother listened to me.
Thanks for confirming the stars. I knew you were living in the far East, but had no clue about your culture nor life style
So it really was a shot in the dark, yet on target, apparently.

[christian]

I was going to bring up some ideas how astrological signs can be associated with medical conditions.

CAPRICORN........knees

So these are vulnerable areas.

I do lots of sports and feel pretty comfortable with it, only my knees always proved to be hardly flexible and the only thing that just doesn't work quite as I suppose it should. From what I figured, I got the sun and some more planets in capricorn. :ballchain:

That piece of information you shared here actually makes me feel more content with my situation now, thanks ulli.

[Carmody]

Why astrology works, with respect to showing that the past and the future is in the stars. The how and the why of it being visible.

The point is that when we get to quantum function, time fails. In quantum function, spooky action at a distance occurs. Particles communicate.

Well, this is not the case, with lattice structures of mass aggregates. Ie, solids, as we know them. For example, that metals in aggregate form in aggregate mass lattice structure form, they behave VERY differently than the the same atoms that are at the full individual separation level. Meaning individual atoms. For example, nano metals, nano materials. With respect to them, we get quantum effects.

Water, for example, is quantum fluid. each molecule is separate. Water is a 'quantum mass aggregate.' It crosses the line, it exhibits quantum and mass effects. It is both in time and has an aspect of responding 'out of time'. A bridge,a conduit, a doorway, if you will. Recall that your body is mostly fluid. Then you can see where this is headed. And that a very large amount of the different metals and elements in your body are distributed in a nano or seperate molecule manner. The interactions in the chemical engine of your body occur in and at a nano level.

Now, in space, it is all discrete separate molecules and it is also ionized particles. Or, plasma. More correctly, a charge coupled quantum mass aggregate.

This means we get quantum effects, in space.

The solar system is large masses, immersed in a charge coupled quantum mass aggregate, immersed in a charged plasma. It suffers the effects of 'no time' or 'the moment of now' Past and future are reflected in the motion of the heavens, as we observe and are connected to them. We are surrounded by it, bubbled by it, and it dances in scalar patterns -around us.

The point is also that we can only realize about 5% of it, the rest is dark matter, regarding our detection.

Now for the interesting article on astrology and charge level of the plasma of outer space.

it seems that quantum plasma is beginning to take a larger role in our little earth's current state --and into the future. A direct change in the value and the eight of the function of the bridging the gap aspect between all time and linear time. The quantum aspects of space are coming to mean more to the earth, with regard to affecting it. Or, how the earth deals with it,and interacts with it.

http://www.realitysandwich.com/space_weather_talk_susan_joy_rennison



I could not have understood what was taking place without the work that has been done by people that call themselves "electric universe theorists". I'm very grateful because the whole understanding of plasma, of the universe being filled with particles, some of which we can detect, and the fact that they are controlled by electro-magnetic fields -- I couldn't have come to the conclusions I've come to without that knowledge. And these people are considered to be heretics. Cosmologists and astronomers have considered these people to be completely crazy and yet, now with the whole issue of space weather...

~~~~~~~~~~

NASA and the space agencies, the world controllers, they've had this issue of wanting people to think that there's no connection between what's going on down on earth and what's going on in the heavens. There seems to be a traditional view to separate the two. And that is now impossible with space weather. I think it's because we have had cataclysms on this planet before. It's driven by events from space. But to create a stable society the view has been to ignore any kind of interaction between space and our planet. Scientists have been saying for a very long time that earthquakes are caused by changes in the celestial environment.

The whole thing with astrology, this sort of dismissal... Astrology is about these huge planets and their electromagnetic impact on this planet. Its the same thing with the moon as well, how changes in the positions of these huge bodies in space can actually have an impact on earth. Even though there's been many many studies and research by creditable scientists, the view has been just to ignore that.

But it's getting to the stage now where we can't ignore it because the environment in space has been completely changed. There's far more energy in space now so when you have these planetary alignments it's much more obvious that something's going to happen, like we're going to have an earthquake, and it's much more likely to happen now.

~~~~~~~~

We do have a relationship with the environment and this energy that's coming in that's multi-dimensional but also electromagnetic and does affect us. The fetus in the womb is affected by solar flares and geomagnetic storms. Biologists can pick the data out as proof.

[Sierra]

Currently I have Saturn within a degree of my Neptune (possible loss) and quincunx my moon...affecting my maternal parts...and causing depression.
In the real world this has translated to my beloved kittie disappearing...I have not seen her since last night. She is 4 months old, and although has sometimes ventured out for a few hours, never been gone this long.
If anyone would like to use their mind/spirit power to send her back to me i would be very grateful.

This is what she looks like. Her name is Terra, but when I call her Kittie she normally comes running.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=9521&thumb=1&d=1314112038

Ulli! She is so beautiful! I'm so glad Terra came back home. :)

[ulli]

Me too, I missed having my feet bitten by that kitten which btw is an Aries, and a free energy device.
My first Aries cat ever.

The planet I mentioned there yesterday is still with me and now being joined by Venus opposing my natal Saturn,
so I am not functioning quite as normal.
I have recently turned into a lonely asteroid, floating through space, looking for Elenin, and how I can knock that rock off it's course,
but cannot see it, nor can I see a brown dwarf, nor Nibiru. Everything out there looks normal to me.

All I'm seeing is endless tentacles from crazies on planet earth trying to find a comet to blame when their focus is manifesting rumbles and hurricanes and maybe even tsunamis.
Maybe we should just all go back to playing some computer games, eat pasta, cuddle the cat, walk the dog and admire the sunsets.

[ulli]

I was going to bring up some ideas how astrological signs can be associated with medical conditions.

CAPRICORN........knees

So these are vulnerable areas.

I do lots of sports and feel pretty comfortable with it, only my knees always proved to be hardly flexible and the only thing that just doesn't work quite as I suppose it should. From what I figured, I got the sun and some more planets in capricorn. :ballchain:

That piece of information you shared here actually makes me feel more content with my situation now, thanks ulli.

One of the Capricorn keywords is "rigid", Capricorns are so
into structure-building that they cannot bend easily.

And bending the knee is also the symbol of humbling oneself,
and giving up rigid opinions and viewpoints.

When you get pains in your knees heat 1/2 pound of cooking salt in a pan
and wrap it in some cloth and place it on the affected knee.

The salt crystals will act like miniature laser beams and send heat waves deep into the bones.

[dan33]

Thanks a lot ulli!!!
I've just came from Dublin and i find on the screen a beautiful gift
You say things that make me think again. :)

"Even taking into account selling the Mill House (which I eventually did to Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin), I couldn't afford the incredible house prices in Beverly Hills..."
(Michael Caine. The Autobiography. The Elephant to Hollywood)

[Carmody]

from the article link in my prior post.

I know people who have built or have used these things. They absolutely swear by them. Schumann resonance or Schumann field resonators.

VERY critical in large cities, due to the massive interference.

"We're living in a very exciting time. All the natural energetic signals in the environment are also being amplified now with space weather. Our brains are being triggered much more by the signals coming at us. Look at a mobile phone -- the signals are about a million times stronger than the signals coming in from the Schumann resonance, and yet if you took this environmental signal away humans would get really sick very quick, we can't cope without this natural signal coming in."

Now, electromagnetically, thin in terms of astrology, each planet having it's own fields, it's own resonance and their scalar, out of time fields..interacting at different angles and vectors,and how this affects the earth and what and who is on it.

It is brutally, staggeringly clear... when you spend time in this thread and some others and consider -what this is all about.

[Carmody]

I just looked at the chart for the current state of the heavens. A bit of earthquake activity is not unexpected. The point is that we had quite a few powerful alignments these past few days and the energy does not fade all that quickly.. It can build... and then release. Or, simply be around along enough at a higher oscillating level that it causes a bit of a snap in the earth's plates. These are scalar fields, time-space and matter, gravitation, etc, are based on them. So they tend to cast influence. Thus the rationale and the evidence of the correctness of astrology. It's right here in this thread.

I could be wrong, but I just checked:

Among the rest... of the current transits, is...

Sun Conjunct Regulus
Mars Conjunct Sirius

[ulli]

I just looked at the chart for the current state of the heavens. A bit of earthquake activity is not unexpected. The point is that we had quite a few powerful alignments these past few days and the energy does not fade all that quickly.. It can build... and then release. Or, simply be around along enough at a higher oscillating level that it causes a bit of a snap in the earth's plates. These are scalar fields, time-space and matter, gravitation, etc, are based on them. So they tend to cast influence. Thus the rationale and the evidence of the correctness of astrology. It's right here in this thread.

I could be wrong, but I just checked:

Among the rest... of the current transits, is...

Sun Conjunct Regulus
Mars Conjunct Sirius


And Mars in Cancer square Saturn in Libra
and Saturn square Sirius.
Quite a lot going on...
No wonder.

[ZuLiZ]

OMG, ZuLiz...I had a senior moment there....I guess I'm getting too old for this.
I had written down my notes for your reading, and later typed it into the laptop,
And of course, I made that classical mistake,
Of not reading my own handwriting properly.

You see, the symbol for Virgo and Scorpio is similar, they both look like the letter m, except on the Virgo symbol it ends with a loop, and the Scorpio symbol ends with an arrow...the famous stinger.

So I saw Virgo where I should have seen Scorpio. But I'm not even sorry, as this now is good news for you. Saturn left Virgo last year, is currently in Libra, and will not return to Virgo for another 27 or so years. But I am sorry in case I caused you unecessary worries.
Please forgive me.
And wow...Bali homes have to be the most beautiful in the world.
My absolute dream homes. I haven't been to Bali, but used to visit the island of Mustique in the Caribbean...
my good friend Arne Hasselqvist (R.I.P) had built a traditional Bali home in his own back garden for David Bowie.
I have moved house more than 40 times in my life, and am currently designing a house for ourselves, next to a river in the mountains of Costa Rica. The garden is already in place..have a look at the album I made on my profile page...
I would love to see one of the homes you built.
By the way, based on the analysis of the fourth house planets I have sent several kids into the architecture path, and one nephew just graduated. Yet when he was 13 he only wanted to become a soccer star, but I told him his energy level was too erratic, and he might run out of steam the middle of the match, and that he had to study architecture.
He is thrilled now that his mother listened to me.
Thanks for confirming the stars. I knew you were living in the far East, but had no clue about your culture nor life style
So it really was a shot in the dark, yet on target, apparently.


Too Funny! I was trying to find some information on that tricky Saturn and when it was coming....... that might be v good news then because its left Virgo and so now it might be a little easier times ahead I hedge a bet. So not to worry and yes I'm happy! Sounds as though you're having a wonderful life down there with those beautiful skies. I've never been to that part of the world although it is on my bucket list for some time in the future. We're just in the process of listing our home and ready to venture off into our new project and my gorgeous son just sent me a copy of our advertising video this very morning!! So have added the link rather than downloading a bunch of photos. Thanks again for spiking my interest in the stars!!
http://vimeo.com/28098508

[astrid]

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I have noticed my energy really shifted, from drifting, dreamy, to wanting to get "down to business".

Just in the last 24-48 hours.

[Jayke]

Just following up some research based on Carmodys last post and found this quite interesting:

"Alterations or stresses on the phases of the Schumann Resonance by lunar and planetary influences probably are at least a precipitator to, or at the most a cause for, tectonic plates to slip or shift causing earthquakes.

Two traditionally trained Indian scientists publicly and accurately predicted the time, date, longitude/latitude and magnitude of the devastating Indonesian earthquake and tsunami four days before the deadly event occurred. They constructed their prediction by observing the position of the Sun and Moon at the precise times and dates of previous earthquakes greater than a 7.5 magnitude.

This author hypothesizes the phases of the Schumann Resonance were stressed or altered by the Moon (5 degrees Cancer) being in direct opposition to the Sun (5 degrees Capricorn) on December 26, 2004. On March 27, 1964, the Sun was at 7 degrees Aries and the Moon was at 7 degrees Libra and a massive earthquake shook Alaska. During both the Indonesian and Alaskan earthquakes the Sun was exactly 180 degrees opposite of the Moon on a circle while both the Sun and Moon were in what is known as Cardinal signs.

In other words, if you draw a straight line through the middle of the Earth, the Sun was on one side of the globe and the Moon was exactly on the opposite side of our planet. However this straight line of opposition does not flow directly through two sides of the equator or both poles of the Earth. By astute observation and comparison of the angles of the critical Sun/ Moon opposition line as related to the equator and the poles of the Earth, the Indian scientists precisely located the area where and the time when the phases of the Schumann Resonance would be weakened enough to allow tectonic plates to shift. However, the Indian scientists had no awareness of phases for the Schumann Resonance in their research but their earthquake prognostications by observing and calculating the angles of the Sun/Moon opposition through the Earth are astounding. Many people feel they deserve global accolades for their efforts, discoveries and sterling accomplishments.

The prediction by the Indian scientists was about 28 minutes off in predicting when the earthquake would occur. They were correct in calculating the exact time of the opposition of the Sun and Moon but they did not realize the stress caused by these positions would take about 30 minutes to build on and alter the phases of the Schumann Resonance that caused or contributed to the tectonic plates to slip at an exact location on Earth's harmonic grid."

http://viewzone2.com/schumanx.html

[ulli]

Fascinating stuff, Jayke. Thank you for sharing.

[ulli]

I have noticed my energy really shifted, from drifting, dreamy, to wanting to get "down to business".

Just in the last 24-48 hours.

Have you been able to figure out where the planets are currently in relation to your natal chart?
I don't have it at hand right now, as I'm on my ipad.
Anyway, the sun, Venus and Mercury are now in the early degrees of Virgo and for many that brings work impulses.
Getting organized.

[ulli]

Here is your reading, Sandy
I couldn't find out if they observed daylight savings time in the year of your birth,
so this might be off a bit, by one hour.

The first thing that comes out of the page is the Mars in Cancer, Moon in Aries square....
so that makes you a sensitive impulsive or perhaps an impulsive sensitive.
I know this sounds crazy, but I'm sure you know what I mean.
Being you is like driving a car with one foot on the gas and the other on the brake.

Then you have a Venus-Sun conjunction in Virgo, totally obliging you to play everyone else's game,
while at the same time trying hard to resist that impulse.
In the 11th house, as well, which means you feel compelled to seek out larger groups of people,
therefore complicating the game even more.
It can't be easy being you.

Your saving grace is Jupiter trine Mars, which means your energy supply is maintained at a constant
as if you never have to refuel.
Then (provided I have your birth time right) you have Neptune on the Ascendant,
which means heaven or higher self is guiding you, at least most of the time.
You just cannot afford to slip up, or your Saturn Pluto conjunction in Leo in the 10th
brings you instant Karma.
Or are you the one that dishes out the Karma to others? Especially at work?
But then again, maybe your work is at home,
(Midheaven in Cancer) and it all begins and ends with yourself.

Mercury is also in Virgo, and in the 11th,
so you do love your involvement with building a new and better world.
No wonder I see you hanging around Wade's thread a lot.

In your marriage you make a feisty partner...never a dull moment with you around.
You are working on not being overly confrontational, though,
with Neptune opposite your Moon, which means your compassion won't let you draw blood.

Then there is a square from Jupiter to Saturn, so at times you do lose all hope,
and need a kick from someone to get you started again.
Once you finished licking your wounds nothing can stop you, and off you go again....
It just goes up and down, also due to having Libra Ascendant,
which makes you passive, while your Aries moon square Mars makes you hyper.
Alternating moods, dependent on the transits.

Knowing all of this is half the battle.
With your Virgo planets you have the brain power to analyze yourself and learn astrology,
and perhaps even become a teacher.
Today and tomorrow Mars is on your natal Mars, so there is hightened activity.

This year's birthday may be one of the best in your whole life,
with several planets forming good angles.
although there is a small cloud, with Saturn opposing your moon,
but with the natal Moon in Aries that might be a good thing
as some of your more extreme impulses will be subdued for a while.
Perhaps you are worried about your partner....Virgos worry too much.

But the current trine of Jupiter to your Sun-Venus conjunction,
as well as several planets conjunct your Virgo stellum tell me a happy time is ahead.

[ulli]

I have noticed my energy really shifted, from drifting, dreamy, to wanting to get "down to business".

Just in the last 24-48 hours.

I checked your transits, Astrid. Mars is in Cancer and with each day now the trine to your Scorpio planets is getting stronger
Then you have Jupiter opposite your Scorpio Moon right now, possibly a lot of memories are surfacing at once...
Scorpio Moon means that memories are often kept under lock and key, you may even forget those things ever happened...
until a transit comes along and opens the flood gates...
this could be such a moment....
The Pluto-Sun square is fading, so you can take a deep breath of relief.

[sandy]

Thank you SOOOOO Much ULLI,

This is pretty much me in a nutshell and your right! it has not been easy being me :) I know B.C. has always been on Pacific Time for as long as I can remember.

I do like adventure and risk taking but like you say one foot on the gas pedal and one on the break has me spinning my wheels at times. I think I have learned this technique to incorporate some discernment along the way instead of speeding head long into things (impulsive - yes) and creating much Karma!!

I have a reputation for calling a spade a spade when my patience runs out but I'm gaining some balance in this also in the past few years by accepting people more than judging them. Funny you would mention work in this area as I always some how ended up in Manager positions and thus having to confront many issues and others to run the operation for the good of all. Always have the big picture in mind and know what needs to be achieved in the present to move toward the ultimate goal......................Love Wades Thread

Spent my life for the most part taking care of business for others (mothered my 5 siblings from very young age) so was set up to play everyone Else's game at the very young of 10 and only in the last 4 years have I put myself first.....(over 50 years later) this had not made me popular with many but eventually they will get over it. You are right it is hard to resist and as a prime example I have my older brother staying with me as he reached out (very proud man) for help due to being ousted from his apartment because of black mold. He is not well to begin with so thus I am my brothers keeper as they say for the next few months.........growing time is my mindset versus Karma :)

I am compassionate and even when I could draw blood I won't as I know how that feels for sure. Spent my career in the helping field and if I worked towards breaking through something with someone, there was real heart purpose in this endeavor and always worked to help them gain personal dignity again and a sense of safety and security before ending time together.

I spent many years being a Life Skills Coach and teaching groups. Started out in Social Work but ended up working with street people and incarcerated more than not as I just couldn't abide by the rules of many organizations and after a time would exit and go back to front line work cause I couldn't handle the hypocrisy and keep my mouth shut.

You are dead on when you say that I take time to lick my wounds and then get up and go again. After four years I feel that I'm ready to go again but not sure what the Universe present just yet, but I feel it coming :) I have worked intensely on loving myself and building real self worth these last few years and feel genuinely balanced for the first time. Mood swings are virtually gone, medication free for over 3 years, and healed from Fibromyalgia too boot. Life is good. I retired early so don't have work stress and rat race issues and love to live a simply as possible. I moved here to my little isolated town in the boonies 3 years ago and call it paradise these days.

Good to hear more happy times are ahead and that this birthday will be one of the best (haven't had too many of those).

Thank you for the compliment about having the smarts to learn astrology.................I will give it some serious thought after my brother leaves as who knows, this may be a door waiting for me to open :)

Thank you again for your precious time, love and attention to my reading. You are such an asset to Avalon and the world and I value and appreciate you and your wisdom very much. Much Love to you :)

[ulli]

I'm glad you liked the reading and even more glad ( gladder?) that you are settled and content in your life right now.
I recalled after I finished doing the chart that you had taken on the challenge of being your brother's keeper.
When I do charts it flows best when I totally forget what I know about the person.
Often, when a client visits, and they give me their children's birthdata, those readings come out more accurate, as there are no other factors there to influence me.

What will the future bring? It really is up to us, as individuals and collectively. Each will attract to themselves more of what they are on the inside. Selfishness is a sign of a fragmented person, and they will live and die in a pile of fragments.
God and Gaia have a plan and all those who are aligned with that plan and working to bring the new earth about will receive endless benefits and confirmations. Making beautiful gardens, growing food to help others, healing the sick, helping the downtrodden...those who are dedicated to doing angelic works will be safe and protected from all the evils which apparently surround us -- like corrupt officials, crazy beaurocracy...let the other group handle all that.
When our inner compass is set in the direction of the highest and we become creators then the highest is ours.
And it seems to me, Sandy, that your life as you describe it, reflects some of what I'm talking about. Blessings to you, and may your visit from your brother be to mutual benefit.

[ulli]

Here is your reading, Simone

You are a Cancerian, but with only the sun there, nor any planets in the 4th house,
which is ruled by Cancer, nor with the moon occupying a prominent place in your chart,
I would think you haven't really identified with what is commonly known as Cancer attributes.
You will most likely have the sensitivity, also love the feeding and be fed stuff that goes with Cancer,
but there are so many other aspects in your chart that I rather want to focus on them instead.

For starters, you have Sagittarius Ascendant...
that means you don't need as much security as ordinary Cancerians...
you love the outdoors, travel, exploration. Yet with the Sun in the 7th house, which is ruled by Libra
you don't really feel like being on your own.
The Moon in Scorpio, in the 12th house: deep sleep patterns, with possibly prophetic dreams.
Strong passionate feelings, and in love matters you are deeply devoted to your partner.

Both Mercury and Venus were in Gemini, and in the 6th house.
That means you are interested in health and diet and you can chitchat easily with all kinds of people
have good relationships at work. The life and soul of the water cooler.
You always where news are shared.
Mars in Libra in the 11th, conjunct Saturn, you feel very drawn to community work, maybe legal stuff,
when it comes to people you are very perceptive, and no one can fool you.
You have to be careful not to be too judgmental, though.
Saturn so close to Mars can also mean that you have low energy at times, and struggle to get everything done
that you have put on your plate.
Try to be forgiving and not to carry grudges.

Your ideal life would be to have a partner who shares your interests
and accompanies you in all social and group activities.

Venus opposite Uranus means you can make friends in an instant,
but then find that the friendship is suddenly interrupted
and ends as quickly as it began, possibly because these friends live in another country.
I have the same aspect...in my case it led me to maintain lots of my friendships online
(Venus is relationships and Uranus rules computers)

You are currently experiencing several transits...the square between Mars in Cancer
and Saturn in Libra has fallen right on your natal planets
and you may well be experiencing some hardships due to this.

But they will soon pass, and when Saturn reaches 17 Libra in a couple of weeks
there will be a trine to your natal Mercury
giving you mental concentration capacity such as you haven't experienced in years.
An excellent time to study something new. (Like astrology)

[Simone]

Hi Ulli, This is wonderful, thank you soooo much for doing my reading!!! I've got a few cancer attributes – ooohh I love a good feed and love to cook and bake for others, love my home and nurturing my family and I’m very sensitive too - but like you said I only have the sun in cancer and this was so interesting to me because there are a lot of cancer attributes which aren't really me at all e.g. clamming up in my shell - so it’s pretty spinny to have it all clear now, you were spot on!! :)

I love being outdoors!!!! Love being in the garden planting/picking veggies, looking after my chookies, and I do have a wonderful sleep pattern where I can go off into some amazing dreams, some of them I have often wondered if they were almost prophetic? Especially the sea levels rising in Perth, right up to Greenmount - I have had this dream a few times over the years!!
Omigod I laughed at the ‘life and soul of the water cooler’ so typical of me!! I LOVE to chat, everyone who knows me knows I can talk for hours!!

All the things you've said to watch out for, I have been increasingly more aware of the past couple of years which is just amazing that you picked up on that! It’s always my dad, I had a lot of issues with forgiving and judging him and the way he chose to live his life - I seemed to be able to forgive and forget very easily with everyone else in my life, but with him I found it hard.

The friends coming and going, my god this is soooooo what happens to me, this just blew me away!! It’s always the distance, I live in the Perth hills and to see each other and with busy lives it's hard, but the email keeps us in contact. Cool you have this as well! it’s so nice to hear of someone else experiencing the same thing!!! I always wondered if it was on a spiritual level that this happened and the distance was just an excuse.

Wow the experiencing hardships, my gosh, the past few weeks have been tough. I have had issues with my son at school and worrying that he might not be happy, his eating patterns have been off, then we had (still have) these terrible sinus type colds which have lingered, I haven't been sick like this for years! The stress of it all (when I step back) is really nothing to worry about, but when it involves your child, all you want is the best for them and for them to be happy and healthy! 

In saying that I just know September is going to be a better month for me, and you've just confirmed that!!

You’re brilliant, I love your work!!

Simone xxx

[YuvRaj]

Wow, you're doing wonderful work Ulli. I'm quite busy myself lately with numerology and astrology, though nothing full-blown yet. Here's mine:

May 2, 1984
14:42
Amstelveen, The Netherlands

[dan33]

Viva la Astrologia!


A track from Bryan Ferry's unreleased album HOROSCOPE.
I wonder why, ... HOROSCOPE? I imagine that a higher being left something there. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sHGrsNL-fw

[Herbert]

Ulli It's been a while since you did mine. I took your advice and took a long time to think about it and I looked at all the trines, conjunctions and oppositions with the interpretations for each given at www.astro.com . It helped me to understand why none of the ioverall nterpretations done for me by astrologers seemed correct. In fact it was like finally having a text book instead of just a teacher when you're taking a course. Now I see clearly how various alignments can oppose or reinforce certain things in my personality. The gloss over done by astrologers were really off but now I see why they came to certain conclusions.

You said I was an extrovert but I've never been anything but introverted and very deep, so much so that people always think I'm very shy. Could be the Aspergers of course. But most mportantly you missed the dominant factor in my life which is chronic physical disease caused by antibiotics which are now permanently ongiing as a result. This has sapped my abundant energy for all my adult life.

So I have two questions:
Why would dominating health problems not show up in my chart?
And is there tell-tale commonality in the charts of people born with Aspergers?
I wrote a methodical reply to each comment you made but it would take up a lot of space and probably not be of any benefit to post unless you want me to. I mean if you wanted to see where you were right and where you were wrong. If you want me to take up a lot of space with that I'm happy to do so but it seems to me you probably already have plenty to keep you busy.
It's proven to be interesting for me. Thanks.

[ulli]

Ulli It's been a while since you did mine. I took your advice and took a long time to think about it and I looked at all the trines, conjunctions and oppositions with the interpretations for each given at www.astro.com . It helped me to understand why none of the ioverall nterpretations done for me by astrologers seemed correct. In fact it was like finally having a text book instead of just a teacher when you're taking a course. Now I see clearly how various alignments can oppose or reinforce certain things in my personality. The gloss over done by astrologers were really off but now I see why they came to certain conclusions.

You said I was an extrovert but I've never been anything but introverted and very deep, so much so that people always think I'm very shy. Could be the Aspergers of course. But most mportantly you missed the dominant factor in my life which is chronic physical disease caused by antibiotics which are now permanently ongiing as a result. This has sapped my abundant energy for all my adult life.

So I have two questions:
Why would dominating health problems not show up in my chart?
And is there tell-tale commonality in the charts of people born with Aspergers?
I wrote a methodical reply to each comment you made but it would take up a lot of space and probably not be of any benefit to post unless you want me to. I mean if you wanted to see where you were right and where you were wrong. If you want me to take up a lot of space with that I'm happy to do so but it seems to me you probably already have plenty to keep you busy.
It's proven to be interesting for me. Thanks.

Thank you so much for your response, Herbert.
And anything else you wish to ask, please do not hesitate to take up the space here.
If I can't find the answer it's because I may not have formulated the right question,
so I'm glad you came out and did it yourself.
I will now go back and check out your chart with this in mind...

Health issues and Aspergers I would normally have a look at Mercury, Saturn, the sixth house,
and whatever else intuition guides me to see. Also I would like to invite others here to join in with their knowledge....

I will gladly make the time for you.

[chitters2004]

Hi Ulli,

Firstly i must commend you for all the help that you have given members in this thread. I have been looking into astrology for the last few weeks and I was wondering if you might be able to have a look at my chart...

I was born on 23rd May 1989 in Dorchester, UK at approx 0815am.

thank you,

Jamie

[ulli]

Herbert,
I had another look at your chart, and this time bearing in mind what you told me just now.
The problem angles I perceive at first glance are Mars (in Libra) square Uranus (in Cancer), as well as Venus (in Taurus) square Pluto (in Leo)...
also the Moon in Gemini opposite your Ascendant. You also have some positive aspects...showing me the usual blend of a chart that is nothing out of the ordinary. Most people have several squares and oppositions, so I didn't let this send me red flags.

Let's go one by one:
Since Venus is the planet associated with how we relate to others, and in Taurus wants to be pleasant at all cost, the square aspect from Pluto could act as a blocker, making you shy. Due to Pluto's 'all or nothing' energy the sense of equality in relationship is somehow disturbed; sometimes with this aspect people are either victims of predators, or themselves feel compulsions to stalk others.
The sense of inaedequacy could be strong here...Venus in Taurus has deep feelings, and trust could have been broken with you at an early age...leaving scars.
Mercury (health and communication planet) in the sixth house (house of health matters) in Taurus, this could sometimes be seen as an indication of a chronic condition, but equally could indicate someone who works in the medical field.
It depends on the person's need to express. Mercury in Taurus needs plenty of time to learn, Taurus being a slow sign...slow and stubborn, and the negative stigma of 'slow learner' comes in here. To me personally it is a symptom of our sick society which wants to push people into becoming high speed operatives.
But Mercury in Taurus also means the person learns their stuff in a far more profound way than normal children would...ok, so they take a bit longer, but by the time they "get it" there is a far deeper understanding of the issues involved. Your Sun in Gemini is in direct conflict with this, as Gemini wants to rush from one bit of info to the next, like a dragonfly.
Also your Gemini moon could have told you to hurry, hurry, until your Taurus Mercury is fed up and says: 'I can't do any faster', and decided to play the Taurean go-slow game...being stubborn.

If your general home environment had the Sagittarian spirit, (I guess it must have done, as you have Sagittarius Ascendant) via mother or father's or siblings energy, there could well have been some neglect, and a general ignoring of your emotional needs.

Here is something I didn't see at all the first time I looked:
Your sun in Gemini makes an exact right angle to the MIDPOINT between your Mars and Saturn. Mars is hot and impulsive, and Saturn is cold and resistant.
Midpoints are not my greatest strength...and maybe I should pay more attention to them.
The way Carmody has been explaining reality, in terms of plasma, one might want to look at the whole energy field of your Mars and your Saturn...even though they are 18 degrees apart yet they form one single complex system of opposite energies which the sun receives at a right angle, no less.
This would need further examination, and probably needs to be looked at by more knowledeable astrologers than I am. This field is vast, and there are many experts.
I'm sure there are astrologers who specialize in Aspergers syndrome.

Also since Libra as a zodiac sign is associated with wanting to get along, and have peace and harmony at all cost, having Mars there might cancel out that need to relate well, especially as there is a right angle to Uranus, a planet associated with rebelliousness and which also gives shocks.
The Moon in Gemini opposite your Sagittarius Ascendant- this presents another pair of very opposite energies.
Sagittarius Ascendant is indeed abundant energy, which when not carefully controlled can lead to accidents. As if the person has a quota, and some use it all up in their youth, before they reach the second half of life...I have seen this again and again. Your Mars Uranus square also shows energy (ruled by Mars) suddenly being interrupted (Uranus).

Altogether there is a high chance that you will work your way out of this haystack...sorting it slowly, blade by blade. Acceptance is the key here.
I think the world is deprived of the genius inherent in Aspies...if you allow your extrovert potential to come out you may be surprised how much fun life has to offer you.

[Anno]

Why is this thread not a sticky? It's rare you see one this big without it being arguing and nonesense.

[ulli]

Hi Anno, nice to see you
...this is an astrology thread, hence no need for sticky.
And as far as arguing is concerned, try arguing with an astrologer ;)

[Anno]

I wouldn't dream of it. Unless they're a tv or newspaper astrologer. They don't count, right? You and this thread have given me a whole new level of respect for astrology. It always seemed a bit dodgy but what I've learnt is that real astrology isn't in the mainstream and seeing it explained here properly with all the people who've volunteered their data has opened my eyes to it.

[ViralSpiral]

Why is this thread not a sticky? It's rare you see one this big without it being arguing and nonesense.





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[ulli]

Funny Horoscopes

ARIES

Aries

Aries have ramlike eyebrows and smug expressions. They should not be quite so smug because they are constantly clunking themselves in the skull. Cat Stevens' "Hard Headed Woman" was probably an Aries. Aries rarely say one thing and do another. They usually do the wrong thing and don't discuss it. Never point this out to an Aries unless you want your kidneys pulled out through your sinuses. Aries folks love Pisceans because Pisces people make them feel well-grounded. Aries love to laugh at the funny moon-people who suck their thumbs at age 35. Aries use guns to describe philosophical concepts. Whether you live in a palatial estate or a cardboard tepee, you will insist until death that it is exactly what you always wanted. Most Aries were concrete parking bumpers in at least two of their past lives. Aries are never born. They skip gaily from their mothers' wombs. This may even involve rollerblades. The Aries makes life decisions as a toddler. Aries marry several times for funnies but never divorce. Their spouses have many freak accidents resulting in death or crippling injury. Being infallible, God is probably an Aries. This would make Satan an Aquarius. Aries always hold management positions. If one is assigned to clean toilets, he will form a one-man union. Then he will go and picket in the parking lot. All of you think you're Lech Walesa. People run away when an Aries comes around. They know that if they do not, the Aries will set them on fire. Aries hate listening to Scorpios talk because they take pride in being even more self-centered. In fact, much to the Scorpios' dismay, you are the biggest pricks in the zodiac. Your rams' horns are in everyone else's asses.

[ulli]

All these come from this site, if you want to see your own just follow this link.
(Warning: not all of them are as funny as the first one....)

http://astrologyweekly.com/humour/funny-horoscopes.php

[ktlight]

The reading of Aries is rather harsh, and I say this as an Aries person. Might have represented my inclinations in my early life, but not any more. Funnily, my husband is an Aquarian. Definitely not Satan, more of a sweet soul.

Strange that!!!

[ulli]

Remember Ktlight, this was the joke version...and the other eleven signs fare equally badly...

But in part it is serious, too, because humanity has all sorts, and they are all represented in each sign.
Serial killers as well, each using different methods, according to their sign.
The important thing here is to learn that there are no good signs, nor bad signs,
but there are people who behave in certain ways.

If you read the Capricorn part, which is me...it is also harsh, and quite true if you ask people who know me,
while I personally wouldn't like to admit it. The tendencies are there.


P.S. ...and yes, Aquarians are sweeties, for sure, until they start getting on your nerves...;)

[ktlight]

P.S. ...and yes, Aquarians are sweeties, for sure, until they start getting on your nerves...;)

Very true!

[MiguelQ]

i would aprecciate the effort of someone to do me a chart? i think my life is soo complicated, perhaps that would light up my thoughts, and know me better.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Hi Ulli,
I heard today that Mercury has been retrograde all month (from Maureen Moss' newsletter).

That could easily have confused me into questioning my long-held beliefs and my sudden attitude change about the proper course of action for me in the near future. I also just began to fully accept my assessment of the extent of the worldwide conspiracy. I seem to suddenly have had a change of heart in terms of what I wanted to accomplish here on this forum.

I did get that template download from Lucia Rene about the same time so I am wondering which is the major influencer.

Could Mercury retrograde cause these symptoms I have discussed?

[Carmody]

I'm doing an astrology calculation, so I'm putting this here.

(I've changed this post to a link to the appropriate thread and moved the comment there.) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28357-Psychological-effects-of-circumcision&p=297510&viewfull=1#post297510)

[Carmody]

To give you an idea how powerful that statement was and is..the fire alarm in my house is now acting up. Just like that, out of the blue. Either it is detecting something via radiation, or the battery is dying for some reason.

Aetheric conditionals in my immediate vicinity have changed.

I felt the heat or activity in my right hemisphere shortly before that.

I hope that some of you might finally begin to understand the shape and depth of what you are dealing with. So very long in time, and so deep in your lives.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Does not apply to me, my dear.

[<8>]

Hi Ulli..


I am new to Astrology and therefore know very little about it.

I have no religion i lean on, and i feel no need of joining any groups of any sort. Well i am here at Avalon you can say, and you are right ofc. I saw the group of 18 on the net and a few days later i felt compelled to contact Bill, so i wrote him an Email telling him to take a break and perhaps take a journey to Tibet. At this point i was not a member of Avalon, but i told Bill i felt compelled and this was the first Email i have send for years, I dont know if Bill whent or not, but i know i joind Avalon a few weeks later. And then as i understand it, he was not around anymore.

I know i am eternal through studies i have done on my own, and for the first time in this life i feel free.

I like to ask you if there is a chance Astrology can be a trap? Why am i asking, it just dont feel right. I hope you dont take this the wrong way, i just go where my heart takes me..

All my love to you.....

[ulli]

Hi Ulli,
I heard today that Mercury has been retrograde all month (from Maureen Moss' newsletter).

That could easily have confused me into questioning my long-held beliefs and my sudden attitude change about the proper course of action for me in the near future. I also just began to fully accept my assessment of the extent of the worldwide conspiracy. I seem to suddenly have had a change of heart in terms of what I wanted to accomplish here on this forum.

I did get that template download from Lucia Rene about the same time so I am wondering which is the major influencer.

Could Mercury retrograde cause these symptoms I have discussed?

Mercury goes retrograde quite frequently so if this was true then everyone would be changing their religions several times a year. We know that is not the case.
Astrology is a language which works for those who seek to understand themselves. It really starts to activate change as you study it, and contemplate whatever you discover. Contemplation is the key. Observe, evaluate, then think, think, think.

Trust the process, define what it is you really want to be doing in this life, then hold that vision.
The universe will be bending to serve your goals- never doubt that- provided those goals don't interfere with the well- being of others.

[ulli]

Hi Ulli..


I am new to Astrology and therefore know very little about it.

I have no religion i lean on, and i feel no need of joining any groups of any sort. Well i am here at Avalon you can say, and you are right ofc. I saw the group of 18 on the net and a few days later i felt compelled to contact Bill, so i wrote him an Email telling him to take a break and perhaps take a journey to Tibet. At this point i was not a member of Avalon, but i told Bill i felt compelled and this was the first Email i have send for years, I dont know if Bill whent or not, but i know i joind Avalon a few weeks later. And then as i understand it, he was not around anymore.

I know i am eternal through studies i have done on my own, and for the first time in this life i feel free.

I like to ask you if there is a chance Astrology can be a trap? Why am i asking, it just dont feel right. I hope you dont take this the wrong way, i just go where my heart takes me..

All my love to you.....

As I just explained to Ernie astrology is a language, or a tool.
Whether it is a trap or not depends on the person. It can be, if you go into it for the wrong reasons.
I have had clients who were totally addicted and wanted readings for every decision they had to make, they were that uncertain about themselves and their lives.
I put them off, partly because I didn't want to exploit their addictions, and partly because it would not be helpful for them anyway.
There are plenty of astrologers out there who would gladly accomodate those people. Not me.

If astrology doesn't feel right for you, leave it alone. Why would you want to learn a language or immerse in a culture that feels wrong for you? I have been to places which felt totally alien to me and I will never return.
Go to where you feel an attraction.

[<8>]

Hi Ulli..


I am new to Astrology and therefore know very little about it.

I have no religion i lean on, and i feel no need of joining any groups of any sort. Well i am here at Avalon you can say, and you are right ofc. I saw the group of 18 on the net and a few days later i felt compelled to contact Bill, so i wrote him an Email telling him to take a break and perhaps take a journey to Tibet. At this point i was not a member of Avalon, but i told Bill i felt compelled and this was the first Email i have send for years, I dont know if Bill whent or not, but i know i joind Avalon a few weeks later. And then as i understand it, he was not around anymore.

I know i am eternal through studies i have done on my own, and for the first time in this life i feel free.

I like to ask you if there is a chance Astrology can be a trap? Why am i asking, it just dont feel right. I hope you dont take this the wrong way, i just go where my heart takes me..

All my love to you.....

As I just explained to Ernie astrology is a language, or a tool.
Whether it is a trap or not depends on the person. It can be, if you go into it for the wrong reasons.
I have had clients who were totally addicted and wanted readings for every decision they had to make, they were that uncertain about themselves and their lives.
I put them off, partly because I didn't want to exploit their addictions, and partly because it would not be helpful for them anyway.
There are plenty of astrologers out there who would gladly accomodate those people. Not me.

If astrology doesn't feel right for you, leave it alone. Why would you want to learn a language or immerse in a culture that feels wrong for you? I have been to places which felt totally alien to me and I will never return.
Go to where you feel an attraction.

Thanks for your reply...

bows and walks away....

[ulli]

@ Carmody:
About the first moon square and circumcision.
I followed the link and read your post which gave me a major insight into my own life.
I remember vaguely that I was hospitalized (briefly) when I was one week old
as there was a problem with my umbilical cord not healing right.
My first moon square. Moon governs emotions, mother, homeliness,
so there was an interruption in the normal sequence of events.

It set a life-long pattern, which confirmed the Pluto Moon square
under which I was born.
My relationship with my mother was always either hyper, or super- detached, with the accompanying guilt.
Also I have had a compulsion about getting my home situation just right, which never really happened, even though I have lived in dream homes and on a paradisical beach in the Caribbean...
no place ever felt quite right.
The point you make about circumcision affecting a whole culture, and therefor producing a sense of restlessness, as well as never feeling cozy, is well taken.
But we need to consider that this did not happen to the women, only the males.
Food for thought, there.

[ulli]

Deleted question to Ernie as I just figured it out by myself.

[Carmody]

@ Carmody:
About the first moon square and circumcision.
I followed the link and read your post which gave me a major insight into my own life.
I remember vaguely that I was hospitalized (briefly) when I was one week old
as there was a problem with my umbilical cord not healing right.
My first moon square. Moon governs emotions, mother, homeliness,
so there was an interruption in the normal sequence of events.

It set a life-long pattern, which confirmed the Pluto Moon square
under which I was born.
My relationship with my mother was always either hyper, or super- detached, with the accompanying guilt.
Also I have had a compulsion about getting my home situation just right, which never really happened, even though I have lived in dream homes and on a paradisical beach in the Caribbean...
no place ever felt quite right.
The point you make about circumcision affecting a whole culture, and therefor producing a sense of restlessness, as well as never feeling cozy, is well taken.
But we need to consider that this did not happen to the women, only the males.
Food for thought, there.

The book I'm reading, by Joseph Farrell is called 'Genes, Giants, Monsters and Men'. He speaks on the origins of the Abrahamic system in fair detail. He says, apparently, according to the ancient records (that were coming out of the sand-thus war to hide it) that the system was done via genetic manipulation of the males and the males alone.

This is reflected in an indicative of the need to control the female, which could have been covered or 'made to work' via a purposely created damage to the male -in that associated area of development and final outcome. Thus detachment from the feminine in a permanent fear/desire/safety mental state...through control of their environment and surrounding as a deepest drive...thus control of the women/feminine and their influence.

The whole outer world reflective thing in humans in a state of being off balance. The male/female + inner stability, Mars/Venus + earth-center(look inside) balance system purposely skewed via an outside influence that stepped in and created a self serving system based on damage and abuse.

We have found that stressing alters genetic development and that 'lamarkism' -the idea that gene expression alterations can happen in the immediate sense in the given life, and be passed down - that lamarkism has some truth to it. So, in effect, creating a self perpetuating system that is locked in, by closing the doors on change in those areas. Thus manipulating an entire group of people, the creation of a set machine, that is then driven about like a vehicle designed for personal purposes...over a period of thousands of years. A long term plan executed by someone and something with much longer views than human lives will generally ever consider to be possible, so humans will miss the mental connection that allows them to see the evidence of such in the reality that is unfolding and has unfolded.

So, in effect, something came here, something that was fully aware of our connection to the basic energies of this place, this earth and how the planets move, regarding our formation on the basic DNA levels (it being superconductive and dimensionally connected), the connection of the movement of the heavens regarding our formation and life plans and motions..and a manipulation for selfish and nefarious purposes may have taken place.

Something that led to the off balance mess we are in at this exact time and place.

Possibly, it could be, as some are saying (aka Dolores cannon) Like an egg that was and is maturing, ready to hatch, and at that point ....something came at the time, that was appropriate for it's desires and machinations... and inserted itself into the system so the outcome of the opening would move to their desires, not in the balanced state it should have been.

[ulli]

Carmody,
The all-male clergy system of the Catholic church comes to mind as well.
If a young man felt the divine call to enter the priesthood based on genuine mysticism,
and because he had a high sensitivity level
due to celibacy vows he was then denied to pass that sensitive gene onto the next generation,
depriving humanity of those qualities.

This would have an effect on the gene pool as a whole, I would imagine.

[skyflower]

Hi Ulli,

I have finally read through all 31 pages of posts! PHEW~ You've got a real good thing going on here. :)
I have been reading up on astrology for the past year, and it has been an eye opening subject for me. My favorite site has been astro.com too!

I have a question regarding Pluto in the first house. I have read somewhere that people with Pluto in the first house should move away from where they were born or may be involved in violent accidents.
Makes me wonder if there was a hidden grand design to my parents taking me halfway across the globe when I was a baby.
Makes me wonder if the incident of taking the plug off my incubator and leaving me out on the hallway when I was premie had pluto's signature on it?
or when I rolled down a flight of steep stone stairs as a toddler had something to do with it?

Coincidence? or were they written in the stars? :o

[ulli]

Hi Ulli,

I have finally read through all 31 pages of posts! PHEW~ You've got a real good thing going on here. :)
I have been reading up on astrology for the past year, and it has been an eye opening subject for me. My favorite site has been astro.com too!

I have a question regarding Pluto in the first house. I have read somewhere that people with Pluto in the first house should move away from where they were born or may be involved in violent accidents.
Makes me wonder if there was a hidden grand design to my parents taking me halfway across the globe when I was a baby.
Makes me wonder if the incident of taking the plug off my incubator and leaving me out on the hallway when I was premie had pluto's signature on it?
or when I rolled down a flight of steep stone stairs as a toddler had something to do with it?

Coincidence? or were they written in the stars? :o

I also had accidents when I was younger, and so far eight surgeries.
I also moved house more than 40 times, due to Pluto being not only in the first house, but also square my moon.
Nothing ever felt right...I finally came to the realization that this planet was not for me, and that I was only here to do a mission.
Anyway, congratulations for reading all of this...
that Pluto will come in handy for getting down to the nitty gritty of astrology.
As well as finding that innermost self, from where you can get an elevator to the cosmos.

[ulli]

Here is your reading, Chiquetet

Your chart is quite unusual, with very distinct angles between the planets.
Also your Ascendant falling exactly opposite the house positions means that due to your birth timing
there is a natural balancing of all your energies, giving you a pretty enlightened start to life.
(I can elaborate on this if you are curious, but it takes a bit of research, to back up my claim here.)

There is a T-square between Mars in Scorpio in the 2nd house, at 22 degrees,
Jupiter in Aquarius in the 5th house, at 22 degress,
and the Moon in Taurus in the 8th house, at 21 degrees.

June 1998 was a tough month for you...many planets making hard aspects.
(Saturn was square your Sun-Venus conjunction, Pluto was on your Saturn,
and Mars was opposite your Uranus.)

But already when you were six years old there were Pluto transits that must have left deep marks.
In October of 1992 there was the first Pluto transit affecting your T-square...
so the next few years were very up and down.
In 1997 Pluto had reached your Saturn, school change?,
and Neptune was on your Sun, time of confusion and uncertainty,
but perhaps leading to spiritual break-throughs and insights.

It must be remembered that these kinds of hardships,
while not much fun to live through, yet are the harbingers of much light.

Your Sun and Venus exactly conjunct at 29 degrees of Capricorn in the 4th,
exactly trine (120 degree angle) your Ascendant at 29 degrees of Virgo.
This is an energy field that would smooth everything out pretty quickly.
Self expression is done with great ease,
even though the 4th house can normally make a person shy and security conscious.
You know how to charm people, and you are diplomatic, not wishing to hurt their feelings.

Emotionally this chart looks pretty intense, as your Mars in Scorpio tempts you frequently to achieve the impossible,
and impulses are very strong, at times, yet under a solid lid of self-restraint.
Spending needs to be checked.
The Venus factor can equally make you hesitant, so to people who are close to you
your behaviour could appear contradictive.
You need to work on your relationship with your mother, perhaps. (Mars opposite Moon)
Anyway, with that Scorpio Mars and Pluto as well as Capricornian-Virgo orderliness
you control your life pretty well,
and no one would believe from looking at you that you are juggling more balls than most.
Jupiter in Aquarius puts you on a search for humanity's identity.

The Sun, Mercury, Venus and Neptune in Capricorn all make you an excellent strategist, planner, builder.
If you went into the construction business you would make millions...the talent and know-how are all there.
You KNOW just what an ideal home has to look like as well as how it should function.
Have you seen those videos about Michael Reynolds, the Earthships guy?

With Saturn and Uranus in the 3rd house I suspect your primary education was strict and there were interruptions,
as the Pluto transits between 6 and 12 years of age indicate.
but you are an autodidact and whatever you put your mind to you learn very quickly.
I will let you build my house at any time.

[christian]

Here is your reading, Chiquetet

Thank you very much. :hug:


Your chart is quite unusual, with very distinct angles between the planets.
Also your Ascendant falling exactly opposite the house positions means that due to your birth timing
there is a natural balancing of all your energies, giving you a pretty enlightened start to life.
(I can elaborate on this if you are curious, but it takes a bit of research, to back up my claim here.)

That sounds intriguing and of course, I am interested in how exactly I am supersmart. :humble: I cannot remember what I did in my first 5 years or so, but I am told that I was nicknamed "the professor" and was talking like an old fellow about what-have-you. What I remember apart from concrete happenings is, that I quickly got the feeling, that people on average tend to give in to awkward urges in their behaviour, pretty much allowing those to be a driving force in their lives, while I felt, it is so much easier to let "God be a good man" (German proverb, 'be blitheful') and to speak from your higher self. I surely didn't call it that, but I felt whenever people did find this tranquil state, they would talk without thinking from a point of higher knowledge that is not their little-me personal knowledge, but that is common to all of us, available to be tapped into, and because we have it all in common, we should get along so well instead of letting awkward urges create silly dramas. In my later years I was heavily involved in an expiriment, that was about finding out if it was me, who was awkward, I tried to play along with the silly dramas for quite a lot of time, starting in my early school years (93/4 or so) till my late teenage years and occasionally after that. That sounds strange, but I really saw it as an experiment, I did it consciously, like "now I will enter a phase of experimenting this and I will play it straight, otherwise the result would be tainted". During this phase(s) of experimenting, when I was not really true to myself, what I was perceiving before, it was almost impossible to fulfill my one basic desire to win the affection of beautiful (soul and body) girls, which I did with extreme ease before that. It's odd, that when I did it with ease, I did neither consciously do it, nor was I conscious about the fact that I longed for this, nor was I appreciating it, I just took it as a given.


There is a T-square between Mars in Scorpio in the 2nd house, at 22 degrees,
Jupiter in Aquarius in the 5th house, at 22 degress,
and the Moon in Taurus in the 8th house, at 21 degrees.

I looked up what all this is supposed to signify and what I get from it is, that there is a conflict between Mars' influence towards being keen and competetive in achieving whilst the Moon is bearing a heavy concern with the future needs of humanity. Now this is balanced by Jupiter, giving strength of character, joy and firmness, aiding in succeeding in making a positive contribution, in lifting people up, that is nice. That fits amazingly.


June 1998 was a tough month for you...many planets making hard aspects.
(Saturn was square your Sun-Venus conjunction, Pluto was on your Saturn,
and Mars was opposite your Uranus.)

But already when you were six years old there were Pluto transits that must have left deep marks.
In October of 1992 there was the first Pluto transit affecting your T-square...
so the next few years were very up and down.
In 1997 Pluto had reached your Saturn, school change?,
and Neptune was on your Sun, time of confusion and uncertainty,
but perhaps leading to spiritual break-throughs and insights.

It must be remembered that these kinds of hardships,
while not much fun to live through, yet are the harbingers of much light.

June 98, that must have been when Germany was kicked out of the quarter finals of the World Cup 3-0 by Croatia, that was disturbing to say the least! :ohwell:
Honestly, I don't remember a lot from those times. I changed from elementary school to Gymnasium in 96, I entered elementary in 92. In the beginning, school was easy, because I could read before I got into school and when one doesn't have all kinds of childish nonsense on one's mind, this was a child's play :biggrin1: My parents vetoed against me skipping a class right on the start, which I found out much later, everyone told me that school is important, but I couldn't see how this triviality could be meainingful after all, I made attempts to bring in some extra topics and knowledge into the class, which was encouraged superficially, phonily, in fact it made no difference to what we were doing. I was given extra tasks, which made me wonder, how was more of that triviality supposed to satisfy me more? ;) So I held back enough to not be given extra tasks. On some occasions I figured assimilating to the average level of the class would be somehow more efficient in getting along, I had no intention in being the odd one out all the time, but then again, my competetiveness kicked in pretty often. My grades stayed good throughout the years but the remarks on my graduation papers got worse and worse, especially due to my rebellious behaviour, I enjoyed making funny remarks, getting kicked out for that, not paying attention to boring classes and taking part in fights on the schoolyard. So my teachers deemed me very intellectual and recommended me for Gymnasium (which is the highest of the 3 different types of school one has to choose after 4 years of elementary). I was met with high expectations from my parents and they emphasized how important it is, but it could of course not turn my behaviour around just like that. I was not at all fascinated by the topics in school, this seemed to be just not really like the proper thing to occupy your mind with. Anyways, in Gymnasium I had to start to learn at home to maintain proper grades, which really annoyed me. They said 7th and 8th grade would be the hardest, if you get through there, you will make it to the end. So I tried to restrain myself somewhat then and made very proper results, so I had no worries whatsoever in getting it done, but still I did not enjoy school at all. It was in 8th or 9th grade, 2000 or 2001 when a girl told me, she could see the aura and I was totally intrigued, I already meditated at that time and was fascinated by Taoism, Buddhism, being a monk, etc, this was a peak, that showed me, that what I could feel in meditation is actually very tangible somehow, when she helped me examine the nature of this phenomenon and by the intent to do so I gradually learned in seeing it myself. Back to school, I more and more had an urge to become positively involved, but my ideas were either not understood at all or somehow called inadequate, no deviations from the plan, please. So in 2002 or 2003 I was eager to leave school and head to Asia to join a monestary, to meditate more and get out of this stupidity, not only school, but the whole world, my parents and all the rest seemed to act so irresponsibly, neglecting all the spiritual aspects to life and worshipping this hellish system instead. I had very ugly fights with my parents, which went on till about 1 or 2 years ago. I didn't leave back then, because I didn't want them to become crazy and I didn't want to leave a mess behind. I hardly attented school in the last years, either I didn't show up or I didn't participate, there were a couple of instances, where I would say something, the teacher says it's wrong, someone else says the same and it's right. My classmates also realized that. Or when the tasks were so utterly simple, that I felt it was so demeaning to have us do this, that I did nothing and the teachers were concerned about that, I replied to them, I was concerned about the quality of the class, but to no avail of course. What a donkey's puddle of piss. So against all laws (I skipped way too many classes) I finished the school succesfully, skipping even the official graduation party, where they all were wearing suits and the parents were there and speeches were made etc., when I was enjoying a sunny day at the lake. :hippie: Although this one girl told me about auras, there was virtually no one who I could relate to in spiritual stuff in school, only a couple of guys in the village, where I lived, who happened to be pot-heads, so I spend most of my time with them. I was sure from the very beginning that I would utilize marijuana, to gain more insights and that I would stop it before I get old. I stopped about 2 years ago and I appreciated that experience and I still occasionally meet them, I'll do a regression on one this weekend.


Your Sun and Venus exactly conjunct at 29 degrees of Capricorn in the 4th,
exactly trine (120 degree angle) your Ascendant at 29 degrees of Virgo.
This is an energy field that would smooth everything out pretty quickly.
Self expression is done with great ease,
even though the 4th house can normally make a person shy and security conscious.
You know how to charm people, and you are diplomatic, not wishing to hurt their feelings.

This resonates. At the end of the day, people tend to be more sociable, cooperating and enjoyable, if one appreciates their positive sides, don't they? :thumb: The issue with expressing myself was only, that my views are not appreciated in a culture, that worships the devil. And I don't mean putting on a robe or partying at the cemetery, but not caring about disharmony in the world, allowing it to happen and indirectly supporting it while only being concerned about gaining more and more of superficial stuff. Luckily, this is changing and luckily, by now I feel content with standing for what I believe is right and true, without necessarily offending people. When it really dawned on me first, it was pretty much impossible to convey it to the Average Joe without peeing on their parade, by now I gained some perspective on that.


Emotionally this chart looks pretty intense, as your Mars in Scorpio tempts you frequently to achieve the impossible,
and impulses are very strong, at times, yet under a solid lid of self-restraint.
Spending needs to be checked.
The Venus factor can equally make you hesitant, so to people who are close to you
your behaviour could appear contradictive.
You need to work on your relationship with your mother, perhaps. (Mars opposite Moon)

When I was very young, I sometimes had these sudden bursts, I pretty much ran amok, my father had this also and many other males in his family. My mother figured, she should tease me even more, so I eventually learn to control and cope with it, before I get older, when it would only cause me a lot of problems. It was good, bad and ugly, it worked.
I definitely feel the urge to jump head over heels into the biggest adventure that there is, this is what makes me feel alive, getting in the midst of the wild currents of lives, setting my will so firm, that I will get through it, smoothing it out and making it easier for everyone else, speaking of the impossible, nothing is impossible, right? Whatever. I can be a good saver, if I wish to be, I have enough aspects in my chart that help me there, but if I would just follow my inclination, which I like to do, I think the best way to handle money is to spend it, that's how creation works, giving up what you have to get something new, sacrificing what you are for what you can become. But sometimes I have a particular goal, so I just save money for it and spend almost nothing on enjoyment or so, sometimes I was just eager to save for the sake becoming rich, when I was pretty young. There were a lot of issues with my mother, I felt that, but by now we get along pretty well, all these obstacles have been taken pretty much by now, I feel, we appreciate each other.
Sometimes I really appear to be contradictive, I think most to myself, by now I'm used to it and I found a lot of peace in the Daoistic books, where contradictions are portrayed with such beauty, as being truly the way of the Dao, it's like these books were written by my soulmate.


The ancient Masters were profound and subtle.
Their wisdom was unfathomable.
There is no way to describe it;
all we can describe is their appearance.

They were hesitant
as someone crossing an iced-over stream.
Alert as a warrior in enemy territory.
Courteous as a guest.
Fluid as melting ice.
Shapable as a block of wood.
Receptive as a valley.
Clear as a glass of water.

Do you have the patience to wait
till your mud settles and the water is clear?
Can you remain unmoving
till the right action arises by itself?

The Master doesn't seek fulfillment.
Not seeking, not expecting,
she is present, and can welcome all things.


Anyway, with that Scorpio Mars and Pluto as well as Capricornian-Virgo orderliness
you control your life pretty well,
and no one would believe from looking at you that you are juggling more balls than most.
Jupiter in Aquarius puts you on a search for humanity's identity.

That's exactly how I feel and many people were indeed suprised, when they got to know me better, by now I seem to somehow radiate somehow more proudly and openly, it's not the time to hide one's light under a bushel anymore!
I know by now we are all one, that is the identity, I know this body is very temporarily, fulfilling the divine will is what I found to be what is there to be done.


The Sun, Mercury, Venus and Neptune in Capricorn all make you an excellent strategist, planner, builder.
If you went into the construction business you would make millions...the talent and know-how are all there.
You KNOW just what an ideal home has to look like as well as how it should function.
Have you seen those videos about Michael Reynolds, the Earthships guy?

I actually have the first Earthships book right here, truly fascinating. Well, I'm not so much about money, but when you say millions I have $$ in my eyes.
I feel that's true, I am regularly the one who is asked to provide a plan for an activity and I do it with great ease, very pragmatical. It's not that I know something better than someone else there, it just seems that others often have stuff on their mind, that taints the core of the issue, the essence of what has to be done, just their lack of concentration.
I know, I got some talents, that could help me earn a buck, but it's just not my priority, I cannot help it, maybe one day.


With Saturn and Uranus in the 3rd house I suspect your primary education was strict and there were interruptions,
as the Pluto transits between 6 and 12 years of age indicate.
but you are an autodidact and whatever you put your mind to you learn very quickly.
I will let you build my house at any time.

Well I wrote enough about the school. I went through it quite easily in retrospect, the greatest hardship was to cope with the triviality and stupidity there. I cancelled my studies, when I started a Bachelor in Asian Science, because I worked in Mongolia already, in the school where I taught English, they didn't care about the Bachelor's degree, I had the skills, that was sufficient.
I figured that the most interesting things were those, that I learnt through my own intention and effort, that's just natural after all considering what is available and what is taught in schools and universities. When I came back from Mongolia, I began to devote myself ever more and clearer to my heart's way, that was why I came back in the first place in 2010, I felt like reborn and ready to go the whole 9 yards, I volunteered in the HealingCastle, I learnt Dolores Cannon's regression hypnosis technique, I want to move to beautiful Leipzig next year to reach more people, contribute to more projects etc. I'm excited about doing all that, I feel really content with living right now.

Maybe I'll become a builder one day, I'd like that, I did some carpentry and masonry in the castle, that was surely fun to do, so building you a house might be a possibility one day.

I maybe went off into rants here about my biography, but I know you appreciate a decent feedback.

I'm curious in what houses the other planets are, but I guess it's not so relevant, I very much appreciate your reading and it has helped me in unlocking some understandings, that are beyond words, thank you so much!

(Had to delete a lot of images in the second half, the forum won't let me post that much in one post.)

[ulli]

Thanks for the feedback, Chiquetet.
You really are quite amazing, and to me a sign that your generation seems to recall
more than mine did, as far as cosmic stuff goes. Total recall.

Here is a list of your planets, so that you can see more clearly where everything is:

Asc. Virgo (cusp to Libra)
Sun 29 Capricorn in house 4
Moon 21 Taurus in house 8
Mercury 21 Capricorn in house 4
Venus 29 Capricorn in house 4
Mars 22 Scorpio in house 2
Jupiter 22 Aquarius in house 5
Saturn 7 Sagittarius in house 3
Uranus 21 Sagittarius in house 3
Neptune 4 Capricorn in house 4
Pluto 7 Scorpio in house 2.

[elainebab5]

Hey There Ulli,
You are so kind to share your talent. May I prevail upon you to make a chart for my son? He has qualities that really make wonder. His information is coming via PM.
Thanks so much!

[Lily de Cuir]

Hello Ulli!

Thank you so much for your time with this thread. Great information. Wondering, if you have the time of course, to look at my chart and that of my son?

I will PM details.

Thank you so much!

Cheers,:yo:
Lily

[Shamz]

Hi Ulli !
Hope you are doing well ! I sent you a PM couple of weeks ago about my astrology reading. I am sure you must be very busy since lot of people are asking you and its so wonderful of you that you are handling all the requests. If you get time can you please tell something about my reading - appreciate that, If you can't do this because of work - I understand completely - no worries.
Love

[Violet]

How can you live spontaneously/at ease/at all when you have figured out the people and events around and before you?

[christian]

How can you live spontaneously/at ease/at all when you have figured out the people and events around and before you?

It's all potentials and probabilities, not so much certainties.
In order to function in this world and support other people and events most effectively, it is advantageous, to know where the potentials and probabilities are, I think.
Because there are virtually no certainties, one always has to adapt anyways.
And even if some stuff would be set in stone and you would suffer from a Cassandra-like fate, you still are left with the choice of how to deal with it within yourself, that should keep you busy. :biggrin1: In every situation you have a choice and you can make a difference, no matter how small it is, a contribution is never in vain.

Being at ease is an issue in and of itself, I guess. :)

[ulli]

How can you live spontaneously/at ease/at all when you have figured out the people and events around and before you?

When I weigh my own spontaneity and impulsiveness
( Mars conjunct Mercury in Aquarius -which can mean tactlessness)
against my more cautious Capricorn nature I came to the conclusion that no matter how hard I try,
both personalities still manage to manifest...though at different times.
Despite 30 years of astro practice.
But at least I'm conscious now of what I'm doing, and can see more quickly where I went against my own deeper principles.
I try to be fair to myself, as well as others.

The main question is: is it possible to be spontaneous and still have self awareness or self knowledge?

It depends what your basic beliefs and goals are.
If all that matters is that a person gets to let it all hang out, not ever considering how others would feel,
just so they can feel good about themselves, we will never get to a society where there is harmony.
All have to be considered, the one and the whole.
This is what higher consciousness is about.

[ulli]

Hi Ulli !
Hope you are doing well ! I sent you a PM couple of weeks ago about my astrology reading. I am sure you must be very busy since lot of people are asking you and its so wonderful of you that you are handling all the requests. If you get time can you please tell something about my reading - appreciate that, If you can't do this because of work - I understand completely - no worries.
Love

Hi Shamz...yes, your name is in the box...together with many others who wanted a reading. I pull out a paper when I feel like tackling. I do it lottery style.

I have been busy lately and also not felt like doing astrology readings`at all.
I get like that at times. Right now my husband is ill and needs attention.
I know I sometimes still post on other threads at Avalon, but that's the main reason why I am here, just like the other members.

If it is really urgent why don't you google "free astrology chart reading", or go to www.astro.com.
There is a lot more free stuff there than I can ever offer.

[Shamz]

Thank you so much for replying Ulli - much appreciated
I am absolutely not in any kind of hurry to know about the reading - just for curiosity sake I gave you my name/details. I know that whatever is supposed to happen - will happen no matter what. So astrology/numerology/psychic readings etc - just a guide/tool to take little care in what/how you do your work.
Your husband's health and of course yours comes first and should no way be compromised. I will pray for your husband's health for sure.
Take care and keep spreading the love.

thanks

[ulli]

I opened this thread initially as a discussion thread for astrology,
and to help people BE astrologers, and USE the web to study their own charts...
it is all out there, and much is for free, computer generated...

But it has turned into a bit of a chore...and sometimes rather overwhelming,
as I'm having guilt feelings that I can't attend everyone. Right now I just need a break.

For every chart I do five new people beg me to do theirs...it's just endless.

I have the Moon in Taurus, which means my first impulse is to oblige...
then I realize I can't do it...
then the stubborn Taurus resistence comes in...until I feel conflict.

So for now: no more until further notice.

Wow, I said it...what a relief!



One piece of advice: when a person learns the teeniest lesson and makes a willing step towards the world they want to be living in, which is a world of reciprocal maintenance, or one of give and take, then life opens the flood gates and good luck returns.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Ah, I've a moon in Taurus too, Ulli — it can get a bit much at times :-)

You take all the time you need. If you're not smiling when you log into Avalon, it's going wrong :-)

[Sierra]

Take a break ulli! I hope your husband feels better soon ... much much better.

Sierra :hug:

[Violet]

How can you live spontaneously/at ease/at all when you have figured out the people and events around and before you?

It's all potentials and probabilities, not so much certainties.
In order to function in this world and support other people and events most effectively, it is advantageous, to know where the potentials and probabilities are, I think.
Because there are virtually no certainties, one always has to adapt anyways.
And even if some stuff would be set in stone and you would suffer from a Cassandra-like fate, you still are left with the choice of how to deal with it within yourself, that should keep you busy. :biggrin1: In every situation you have a choice and you can make a difference, no matter how small it is, a contribution is never in vain.

Being at ease is an issue in and of itself, I guess. :)

What you give here is a description of life which is in itself a collection of potentials and probabilities. No need for astrology to come thusfar.

If we would say that astrology limits the scope of those life-given potentials to your personal data, it would entail the certainty of exclusion of the potentials that aren't aligned with your astrodata, or: your possibilities are limited.

So, if there are no certainties and if also from an astrological point of view this is acknowledged, why not just live life as it comes and indeed deal with each event to the best of one's abilities?

[Violet]

How can you live spontaneously/at ease/at all when you have figured out the people and events around and before you?

When I weigh my own spontaneity and impulsiveness
( Mars conjunct Mercury in Aquarius -which can mean tactlessness)
against my more cautious Capricorn nature I came to the conclusion that no matter how hard I try,
both personalities still manage to manifest...though at different times.
Despite 30 years of astro practice.
But at least I'm conscious now of what I'm doing, and can see more quickly where I went against my own deeper principles.
I try to be fair to myself, as well as others.

The main question is: is it possible to be spontaneous and still have self awareness or self knowledge?

It depends what your basic beliefs and goals are.
If all that matters is that a person gets to let it all hang out, not ever considering how others would feel,
just so they can feel good about themselves, we will never get to a society where there is harmony.
All have to be considered, the one and the whole.
This is what higher consciousness is about.

I support the search for a higher consciousness but I doubt that (most) people see astrology as a means to do just that (which is probably why you came up with this thread in the first place).

I did those free charts and all that and I find the parts interesting that speak about my personality but then they start elaborating about how my marital life will be (if any), how much I will (not) earn, whether or not I will have (m)any) children and whether I will live life until a long age and that's where I start getting ... problematic.

That last part does not give any peace if it has anything negative in it. You may regard it as just a possibility that may or may not happen but it's always there lurking in the shadow. It tends to become a fight where you fearfully try to ward off the worse possibilities described in your birth chart and life should be easier than that.

[ulli]

How can you live spontaneously/at ease/at all when you have figured out the people and events around and before you?

When I weigh my own spontaneity and impulsiveness
( Mars conjunct Mercury in Aquarius -which can mean tactlessness)
against my more cautious Capricorn nature I came to the conclusion that no matter how hard I try,
both personalities still manage to manifest...though at different times.
Despite 30 years of astro practice.
But at least I'm conscious now of what I'm doing, and can see more quickly where I went against my own deeper principles.
I try to be fair to myself, as well as others.

The main question is: is it possible to be spontaneous and still have self awareness or self knowledge?

It depends what your basic beliefs and goals are.
If all that matters is that a person gets to let it all hang out, not ever considering how others would feel,
just so they can feel good about themselves, we will never get to a society where there is harmony.
All have to be considered, the one and the whole.
This is what higher consciousness is about.

I support the search for a higher consciousness but I doubt that (most) people see astrology as a means to do just that (which is probably why you came up with this thread in the first place).

I did those free charts and all that and I find the parts interesting that speak about my personality but then they start elaborating about how my marital life will be (if any), how much I will (not) earn, whether or not I will have (m)any) children and whether I will live life until a long age and that's where I start getting ... problematic.

That last part does not give any peace if it has anything negative in it. You may regard it as just a possibility that may or may not happen but it's always there lurking in the shadow. It tends to become a fight where you fearfully try to ward off the worse possibilities described in your birth chart and life should be easier than that.

There are many more paths than just astrology. Most paths claim to be the only one but that is not true.
Even the Gurdjieff teachings, which are called the Fourth Way, can become a bit dogmatic.
Gurdjieff had divided the search for higher consciousness into three paths: the way of the fakir...physical disciplines.
The second is the way of the monk, with religious practises developing devotion, an emotional excercise, and the third was the way of the yogi...mental and meditation training, which would lead to higher mind powers.
Then Gurdjieff schools were to integrate all those three other practises, thus he called it the Fourth Way.
Each person is nowadays confronted with an enormous number of choices, which is marvellous.
When someone finds astrology is for them they become very excited.
Then they start reading, and some is absorbed while some is rejected, and so the search goes on.

If you say that you find the part that speaks about your personality is of interest, then stay with that for a while. If you take just one of those planets, say your Venus isin Aquarius, it could become a three week study course, as there is so much to read about it...so many newsletters, websites, endless info just on what it 's like to have Venus in Aquarius, and who has it, and what their love life is like.

After a while of studying this you will start noticing a change taking place in how you relate to people, just as a result of having focused on your Venus.
These inner changes then bring about outer changes, such as who you interact with, and how.
It is a slow and very subtle process, and makes life really interesting.

When the inner universe is explored by just one person, then a ripple effect starts, and the outer world follows suit.
Even if only 5% of the world's population study this, and aim for inner peace by balancing their planets, then the outer effect should be amazing.

The same would be true for palmistry, although it didn't appeal to me as much as a field of study. But the truth can be found there, too. It's a matter of personal taste.

[ulli]

I did those free charts and all that and I find the parts interesting that speak about my personality but then they start elaborating about how my marital life will be (if any), how much I will (not) earn, whether or not I will have (m)any) children and whether I will live life until a long age and that's where I start getting ... problematic.

That last part does not give any peace if it has anything negative in it. You may regard it as just a possibility that may or may not happen but it's always there lurking in the shadow. It tends to become a fight where you fearfully try to ward off the worse possibilities described in your birth chart and life should be easier than that.

About that negativity: I had a hard time with that myself, and sometimes still do.
But on the whole I am less fearful than someone who doesn't practice it.
Studying astrology got me to study fear itself, and how anticipating bad things can bring them about.

But I also made another discovery...once when anticipating some really negative transits with full terror,
when the date finally arrived, the events that happened, although they fitted the planets in question,
in actuality were much weaker than expected...
as if whatever karma I had to burn got used up already in the period of anticipation.

The general argument whether astrological predictions are useful, or not,
can be compared to how we feel about weather forecasts.
Some people watch them all the time, some never.
Some need them to know when to board up their houses...if a hurricane is on the way.
So if I'm in a month where Pluto squares my Mars, and then during that same month
Mars transits via squaring my Uranus as well,
I don't do anything risky, but rather go within.
It's a bit scary, but it also prompts one to meditate and pray, which is always a good idea.

[PurpleLama]

http://www.new-astrology.com/index.php
I have had a lot of fun with this one that was posted early on in this thread. Anyone wanting a reading should definitely check this one out as well.

[ulli]

So, if there are no certainties and if also from an astrological point of view this is acknowledged, why not just live life as it comes and indeed deal with each event to the best of one's abilities?

It's a good question, but let's look at "there are NO certainties..."
there are loads of certainties in life, which people then accomodate themselves around.
Such as daylight fading every 24 hours...at dusk....
people use watches to time such events.

It's all just a matter of scale.

The earth's axis of a 23 degrees angle means summer and winter seasons...
farmers wouldn't plant seeds in the ground in Canada in October.
There is a winter coming, that much is certain.

Astrology is a language, and can be used as a weather forecast.
But it also can be used as a consciousness raising tool, if one wants to monitor oneself,
and look into where one's thoughts arise, or how one's emotions are triggered.

The fact is that access to astrology has been limited for centuries,
and the masses have been told it is a pseudo science, when in fact it is extremely rich.
Like ufologists, astrologers have had to deal with media blackouts, except for the clown shows.
That alone should raise flags.

So many things are really detrimental to people's health, yet there is no ridiculing going on.
Why then with astrology?

[ulli]

I went and registered at new-astrology.com...
I had been using it to get data quickly and ran out of freebies there.
So now I'm a paying customer.

Well, I thought, at least let me check the site and see what it has to offer me.

For the last month I have had Uranus (ruler of astrology)
sextile my natal Mars (action planet), so to me it made perfect sense that I was being active in this thread...
especially as my natal Mars is in the 6th house (work, detailed work) and in Aquarius (the waker-upper knowledge pourer)

Well, here is what this website had to tell me about this transit:
The owner Frank Burns is from Alaska but lives in France, so he zeenks like a Frenchman now, hehe...

"You will be attracted by a virile, strong man with an out-of-the-ordinary personality: he will certainly be a bit brusque, will speak roughly to you and will be harsh with you. That will please you as it gives you a sense of security and you will not have to take yourself in hand because he will decide everything for you. It is likely that when the influence of this transit has disappeared, you will regret this choice."

I suppose Frank Burns assumes that all women who use his program are single.
Unless the man in question is out there, but until now I haven't noticed him.
(I wonder what my darling hubby of 21 years marriage would make of this....ooops, he needs another tea)

[Calz]

How can you live spontaneously/at ease/at all when you have figured out the people and events around and before you?

When I weigh my own spontaneity and impulsiveness
( Mars conjunct Mercury in Aquarius -which can mean tactlessness)
against my more cautious Capricorn nature I came to the conclusion that no matter how hard I try,
both personalities still manage to manifest...though at different times.
Despite 30 years of astro practice.
But at least I'm conscious now of what I'm doing, and can see more quickly where I went against my own deeper principles.
I try to be fair to myself, as well as others.

The main question is: is it possible to be spontaneous and still have self awareness or self knowledge?

It depends what your basic beliefs and goals are.
If all that matters is that a person gets to let it all hang out, not ever considering how others would feel,
just so they can feel good about themselves, we will never get to a society where there is harmony.
All have to be considered, the one and the whole.
This is what higher consciousness is about.

That is an interesting point of observation.

I learned a lot about astro many years ago ... but chose only to look at things when I felt the urge and not follow the day to day aspects.

Everyone is different. I know Carmody is so sensitive he likes to be aware of what is coming energetically.

Aside from moon phases I tend to ignore it.

[ulli]

How can you live spontaneously/at ease/at all when you have figured out the people and events around and before you?

When I weigh my own spontaneity and impulsiveness
( Mars conjunct Mercury in Aquarius -which can mean tactlessness)
against my more cautious Capricorn nature I came to the conclusion that no matter how hard I try,
both personalities still manage to manifest...though at different times.
Despite 30 years of astro practice.
But at least I'm conscious now of what I'm doing, and can see more quickly where I went against my own deeper principles.
I try to be fair to myself, as well as others.

The main question is: is it possible to be spontaneous and still have self awareness or self knowledge?

It depends what your basic beliefs and goals are.
If all that matters is that a person gets to let it all hang out, not ever considering how others would feel,
just so they can feel good about themselves, we will never get to a society where there is harmony.
All have to be considered, the one and the whole.
This is what higher consciousness is about.

That is an interesting point of observation.

I learned a lot about astro many years ago ... but chose only to look at things when I felt the urge and not follow the day to day aspects.

Everyone is different. I know Carmody is so sensitive he likes to be aware of what is coming energetically.

Aside from moon phases I tend to ignore it.

My point exactly. People map their own lives according to their needs.
If you are born like me, with many squares and oppositions,
but also with a prominent Jupiter (search) and strong Aquarius factors (curiosity)
it's only a matter of time before astrology comes along to help temper your life.

You being a Libra probably built personality traits
to give you that protection long before you even knew about astrology,
so are not as vulnerable as some.

[elainebab5]

I applaud your candor. Had I not skipped the middle of the thread I might have seen all the chart requests.
And empathize - I loved sewing until I started doing alterations.
'nuf said.
I went to the first site mentioned and got a chart for Andrew and I - wow and wow.
You can bet I'll be back with tons of questions.
I am aiming to know myself as well as YOU know YOURself. That is awesome. But first I'm concentrating on understanding Andrew's chart. He is so empathetic, can judge character usually before I do and he's twelve. No strange "Mommy that low hum is the voices telling us to get underground" conversations - just that his hunches are usually right and when he was little he didn't even know the words to express them. And he's really funny with a fantastic sense of humor and wit. I'm off to figure out what is envionrmental and what he's born with. Onward and upward! Thanks for your honesty and encouragement.
Peace Out!!! Elaine

[applejax]

ulli,

just wanted to say thank you for sharing the links about finding about your own astrology information. i must say when i looked at my astrology sign, it was interesting to see that a majority of what was written was true. the only problem i have i really understanding it. i hope you don't mind me sending you a PM to do a reading for me. i feel stuck right now and not sure how to process it.

much love and thank you,

<3 jackie

[Carmody]

How can you live spontaneously/at ease/at all when you have figured out the people and events around and before you?

When I weigh my own spontaneity and impulsiveness
( Mars conjunct Mercury in Aquarius -which can mean tactlessness)
against my more cautious Capricorn nature I came to the conclusion that no matter how hard I try,
both personalities still manage to manifest...though at different times.
Despite 30 years of astro practice.
But at least I'm conscious now of what I'm doing, and can see more quickly where I went against my own deeper principles.
I try to be fair to myself, as well as others.

The main question is: is it possible to be spontaneous and still have self awareness or self knowledge?

It depends what your basic beliefs and goals are.
If all that matters is that a person gets to let it all hang out, not ever considering how others would feel,
just so they can feel good about themselves, we will never get to a society where there is harmony.
All have to be considered, the one and the whole.
This is what higher consciousness is about.

That is an interesting point of observation.

I learned a lot about astro many years ago ... but chose only to look at things when I felt the urge and not follow the day to day aspects.

Everyone is different. I know Carmody is so sensitive he likes to be aware of what is coming energetically.

Aside from moon phases I tend to ignore it.

I'm probably not that much more sensitive than most but more energy is available through this avatar design and build execution parameters. :p Er, OK. (I'll shut of the 'Data' from Star Trek part of me).

Astrology has a +/- total error rate of 15%...or +/- 7.5%. An 85% hit rate, regrading the connection to transit explanations being exactly correct.

Now, what is the error rate of conception to Birth times, re the 'standard' birth time of Human gestation? You guessed it...+/- 7.5% or a total error from the norm of ...15%.

Judaic astrology is based on conception dates. My mother was able to tell me which night I was conceived, as I was curious about this aspect, and she happened to know. With a grin on her face, she told me. OK Mom, no more details.....

Anyway, with a powerful chart, it is like being tossed around inside a locked cement room, by a 900 pound angry gorilla. But, when I tame it, I get to drive. To ride very big waves, so to speak. Due to the power of the horoscope, I was confronted by many powerful things, often. This forced a deep look, through constant exposure.

Getting back to astrology, the accuracy might creep up if the given client might be able to say if their birth was late or early.

[modwiz]

I'm probably not that much more sensitive than most but more energy is available through this avatar design and build execution parameters. :p Er, OK. (I'll shut of the 'Data' from Star Trek part of me).

Astrology has a +/- total error rate of 15%...or +/- 7.5%. An 85% hit rate, regrading the connection to transit explanations being exactly correct.

Now, what is the error rate of conception to Birth times, re the 'standard' birth time of Human gestation? You guessed it...+/- 7.5% or a total error from the norm of ...15%.

Judaic astrology is based on conception dates. My mother was able to tell me which night I was conceived, as I was curious about this aspect, and she happened to know. With a grin on her face, she told me. OK Mom, no more details.....

Anyway, with a powerful chart, it is like being tossed around inside a locked cement room, by a 900 pound angry gorilla. But, when I tame it, I get to drive. To ride very big waves, so to speak. Due to the power of the horoscope, I was confronted by many powerful things, often. This forced a deep look, through constant exposure.

Getting back to astrology, the accuracy might creep up if the given client might be able to say if their birth was late or early.

I give my son gifts on his birthday and his conception day. Scorpio birth and Aquarian (my sign) conception.

[christian]

What you give here is a description of life which is in itself a collection of potentials and probabilities. No need for astrology to come thusfar.

If we would say that astrology limits the scope of those life-given potentials to your personal data, it would entail the certainty of exclusion of the potentials that aren't aligned with your astrodata, or: your possibilities are limited.

So, if there are no certainties and if also from an astrological point of view this is acknowledged, why not just live life as it comes and indeed deal with each event to the best of one's abilities?

One's zodiac signs are determining, what one is more likely to do, that's what I said, but because of free-will nothing is certain after all. One can look at it from both ways, either one's zodiac limits potentials or enhances certain potentials and thus anyways sets probabilities, from how I understand it.

And there are indeed no certainties, from what I see, ulli cites the cycles of the seasons and of day and night, but even they have been disrupted in times, during the ice-age, after lots of vulcanic activity, and so on. But then again, those things might be anticipated through astrology or other means, too.



I support the search for a higher consciousness but I doubt that (most) people see astrology as a means to do just that (which is probably why you came up with this thread in the first place).

I did those free charts and all that and I find the parts interesting that speak about my personality but then they start elaborating about how my marital life will be (if any), how much I will (not) earn, whether or not I will have (m)any) children and whether I will live life until a long age and that's where I start getting ... problematic.

That last part does not give any peace if it has anything negative in it. You may regard it as just a possibility that may or may not happen but it's always there lurking in the shadow. It tends to become a fight where you fearfully try to ward off the worse possibilities described in your birth chart and life should be easier than that.

What you support is all that counts, don't worry about (most) people.

Don't let it get you down, when someone tells you, that you are likely to experience something negative. What you resist, persists and thus becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Don't blame the one who tells you something negative will happen to you, because it's your choice how you allow those words to affect you. After all, you don't have to have fear.

[Violet]

Thanks Ulli for taking ample time to explain. Thanks Chiquetet and others for contributing.

I have another thing that I still haven't figured out about astrology (just tell me when to shut up :o, I get too curious at times). When the universe came about with its constellations, planets, and others...when was it decided that this planet would be called so and its meaning would be so.

How was astrological language made? (To me) It's not so straightforward to associate a planet with certain emotions/events/...on the basis of their position in the universe or in relation to other planets, with each their own other meaning.

[Guest]

Hi Ulli,

I hope you are well and your husband is doing better.



Have a great day

Nora

we are all related

[PurpleLama]

probably not that much more sensitive than most but more energy is available through this avatar design and build execution parameters. :p Er, OK. (I'll shut of the 'Data' from Star Trek part of me).m

Sooo if Carmody is Data, that means Ulli is Counselor Troi. Calz is Worf, or is it Yar? Hmmmm....

[Calz]

probably not that much more sensitive than most but more energy is available through this avatar design and build execution parameters. :p Er, OK. (I'll shut of the 'Data' from Star Trek part of me).m

Sooo if Carmody is Data, that means Ulli is Counselor Troi. Calz is Worf, or is it Yar? Hmmmm....

Today is *NOT* a good day to die!!!

(my horoscope says so)

9830

[Calz]

Cross posting this from the "Up at the Ranch" thread since it includes an interesting astrology newsletter. Goes into more than astrology but I expect some here will find it of interest.





Good Newsletter

Planet Alert Newsletter

September 2011

Web Site: www.mahalasastrology.com

Email: Planetalert@hotmail.com

Would you like to know how accurate Astrology is? Today is August 23, 2011 and this morning there was an earthquake just outside of Washington, D.C. at Richmond, Virginia. Washington D.C. is located on 13 degrees Cancer. This morning Mars was on 13 degrees Cancer, conjunct the moon by declination and the quake happened. Isn't that interesting? I think it was a wake up call for those living in the areas of the shaking.

At the same time, Mars was square Saturn, which was exactly over Tripoli, Libya, and look what happened there. The rebels took over the stronghold of Gaddafi which means his regime is basically over. I remember one of the prophecies saying that Gaddafi would be one of the major players at the time of the end. That happened and we are at the end times.

I was looking for a storm along the east coast this month and put that in my last article. I wasn't looking for a quake with Mars in a water sign, but the Sun had just moved into Virgo, which is an earth sign and the quake happened. It looks like the storm called Irene is coming in within a few days and will hit the coast. It is bringing lots of rain and water with it, and that is the result of Mars in a water sign.

We are also in the period of destruction right now in the Mayan Calendar. We are in the 5th night which ends on September 4, 2011. This period is ruled by the planet Uranus which brings surprising events and also storms, wind, and lightening. We were in the 5th day when the Stock Market crashed and the financial challenges will continue. Don't get caught in the drama, hold the light.

We are in the White Wizard year, according to the Dreamspell Calendar by Jose Arguelles, which started on July 26, 2011. This will be a year of fun and magic, just wait and see what happens. Right now it sounds pretty much like gloom and doom, but everything can change is a moment's time. This year is ruled by the planet Vulcan which might be the same as the planet called Nibiru, because they have the same numerology value. Vulcan adds up to 19/10, and Nibiru adds up to 37/10. It looks like it will be coming into our part of the heavens this fall. It's time to be prepared on all levels.

The White Wizard year brings rising lands, lots of cosmic rays, and unannounced comets or asteroids like the comet in our heavens right now called Garradd. I had no idea that comet was coming in August. Honda has also been in our heavens. Then in September, we have Elenin arriving at the closest point to the Sun on September 11, 2011, along with the sign of the woman spoken of in chapter 12 of Revelation. It says "And a great sign appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth." This sign will be in our heavens on September 11-12, 2011.

NASA says there is nothing to worry about with comet Elenin because they say it is too small, but they don't take into consideration that any comet that comes into our area affects us by the electrical connection between the comet and Earth. Elenin is here, along with the Blue Star Ship. This is the ship of our creators. The Bible says in Revelation, chapter 11 – "The second woe has passed; behold the third woe is soon to come. Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying. The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign for ever and ever."

It goes on to say, "The nations raged (in the Middle East countries which has gone on since January), but thy wrath came, and it's time for the dead to be judged (nobody judges you, you judge yourself). It's the time for rewarding the servants, the prophets, and the saints and those who love thy name."

"And it is the time for destroying the destroyers of the Earth." This is what I have been talking about for the past couple of years; the downfall of the controllers, which is in process right now. It may appear like the dark ones are still in control, but they are not. Just wait to see what happens when the ship gets closer. "Then Gods temple in heaven was opened and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple (ship), and there were flashes of lightning, loud noises, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail."

According to Hopi prophecies, the Blue Star comes first, and after that comes the Red Star. This is referring to Nibiru which will be seen as a Red/Orange Ball in our heavens. Check out this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBkuu-Tck6E. It is very interesting. I believe this event will release us from the prison we have been in since the event of 9-11, and the enforcement of Homeland Security. It is time for freedom on all levels.

There may be a large earthquake when Nibiru gets closer to Earth because I had a dream a couple of weeks ago about a very large quake. In the dream I was walking over the rubble of a city. I don't know what city it was, but maybe something will happen that affects the whole Earth; like the axis of the Earth shifting again like it did in Sumatra, Chile, and Japan. The Earth still has to cleanse herself, so pay attention to your inner self and you will be in the right place, at the right time, and will be safe as these changes continue to happen.

The Earth started crossing the Galactic Plane in 1998 and has continued since then moving into a higher vibration of space. If you take 1998 and add 13 years onto it you get the year 2011. The number 13 is very important in the Mayan Calendar, and I believe October 28, 2011 is the end and the new beginning. This is my belief, and only time will tell how it all works out.

Now, something has to happen to bring the world into Unity Consciousness by that time. The only thing I can think of that could do that is if the Net or the magnetic field goes down so we are opened up to higher consciousness. I listened to David Wilcock last night on Coast to Coast and he was talking about how the remote viewers could not see beyond the year 2011-2012 unless they went through a wall, and when they did they came out in bliss consciousness. I believe this is what will happen when our magnetic field goes down, which could be triggered by Elenin or Nibiru.

I had a dream a couple of years ago on September 10. It was about being on a hill with a group of people and we were all singing "The light has won and love now rules the world''. Then on September 14, I had a dream about being with a group of people at the beach and we all fell asleep and when we woke up everything had changed. This happened overnight. The next part of the dream was showing the setting up of a new governing system that was of the light. I believe this system has already been set up and has been behind the scenes for a long time. I believe it will come forward on the new fifth dimension Earth.

On September 5th we enter the 6th day in the Mayan Calendar, which is the time of flowering and is ruled by Jupiter. The glyph that will be in effect is the Blue Eagle which represents the evolution of individual consciousness into planetary mind. The eagle also represents the compassion of all hearts linked as one with unconditional love. Maybe we will be in Unity Consciousness sooner than we think.

The 6th night starts on September 23 and is ruled by the Red Skywalker which is the glyph that represents heaven on Earth. On October 11 we move into the 7th day, which is the last, and this glyph is the Blue Monkey which represents the Divine child, the child that is ever in a state of open-hearted wisdom, innocence, trust, and joyful wonder. It is the glyph of Magic and Illusion.

There has been so much fear mongering going on in the world that I think it is time to say STOP. This is not where we are meant to be at this time. It is a time of joy and wonder. Think about it, we are at the end of a 16 billion year cycle that started with the creation of our Universe. Isn't that an awesome thought! What is there to be afraid of? Life is everlasting. Live in the joy of life; dance to the music, and live life to the fullest. Be prepared, but don't worry. Live in the Now. So Be It! I send you my love!

*****Mahala Gayle*****

[ulli]

Oh Calz, just as I was going to sleep you put up a fascinating post,
but it's a TL;DR.
It does look very interesting, and I will dive into it first thing in the morning.

[FidelAnge]

HI Ulli,
May I kindly request picking up mine:)? 24th June 1987, 10h15 a.m.
I must say it is a great job you're doing, I am amazed :] Many Thanks.
Cheers to Everybody.
Be inspired! :P

[Catsquotl]

What a shame this thread has died.

What is a good starter book on understanding transits?
I have had a few experiences lately I'd like to take an astrological look at.

With Love
Eelco

[Carmody]

What a shame this thread has died.

What is a good starter book on understanding transits?
I have had a few experiences lately I'd like to take an astrological look at.

With Love
Eelco


It will require much investigation on your part.

The open gambit of mental position, in this, is that all is vibration, and that solid matter, in this case the solar system....is like rocks in ponds sticking out of the water, with the wind coming from one side, setting up a ripple pattern.

That is closest to being the initial carrier, or galactic formation wave, the evidence of the prime mover.

Then the geometric pattern created by the planets and their individual ripples outward from that. Interference patterns stacked on interference patterns, all pure geometry and dimensional integration/interaction, coming out of that.

Which is atomic structure, molecular structure, all physics fundamentals, the periodic table of elements, all chemical reactions and interactions, all physical and atomic forces.

Time, gravity, energy, all physics, etc... exists as quantum discrete spaces between them, the space we play and exist in, that we have effect and force/drive/impetus within.

Even Thomas Townsend Brown, who is arguably one of the base characters in humanity's current run into dimensional and space technologies.... in so many words...said that Astrology is real, and is a core aspect or 'operational evidence' of matter formation and action/reaction.

[Carmody]

Brown's daughter, Linda, on the subject of her father, and 'sidereal radiation' which is quite easily envisioned as 'astrology and dark matter', as a point of integration and energetic release/formation/evidence/etc.

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1y04a0/i_am_linda_brown_the_daughter_of_the_physicist/

Also, the stair stepping in decay of the energetics of a highly charged capacitor, exactly points to geometric aspects of frequency and angular integration of the base quantum considerations of matter and dark matter.

It exactly duplicates the data produced by David Radius Hudson in his Enota video, on ORMUS, or 'the philosopher's stone'..

0IgYp4Noz90

Which exactly corresponds to the evidence found in taking different alloys and elements and dropping their temperature to superconducting 'function/state'.

Which exactly corresponds to the alloy/deposition aspects of transistor design and function.

and so on..and so on..and so on...

It's all out there, now.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

To clarify, if one has no real idea of what I've just brought to them, it is nothing less than the 'prima facie' fundamental keys to the nature of reality/time/space/dimensions, the whole damned package.

Wake up, look closely, look often and do your best to delve into it.

Your position on reality and what you are may begin to unravel and then begin to shift, which is a thing that most are not so comfortable with, that whole tearing down of the 'mind edifice' thing...

[ulli]

What a shame this thread has died.

What is a good starter book on understanding transits?
I have had a few experiences lately I'd like to take an astrological look at.

With Love
Eelco

Robert Hand
Planets in Transit: Life Cycles For Living

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/766070.Planets_in_Transit

[Catsquotl]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

To clarify, if one has no real idea of what I've just brought to them, it is nothing less than the 'prima facie' fundamental keys to the nature of reality/time/space/dimensions, the whole damned package.

Wake up, look closely, look often and do your best to delve into it.

Your position on reality and what you are may begin to unravel and then begin to shift, which is a thing that most are not so comfortable with, that whole tearing down of the 'mind edifice' thing...

I guess i have some looking and delving to do.

With love
Eelco

[Qauntumreverse]

It is the causal root of the control apparatus to the matrix. It will be reset.

[PurpleLama]

It is the causal root of the control apparatus to the matrix. It will be reset.

Which part, the Astrology or the Knowing Yourself?

[Qauntumreverse]

In this case both

[Catsquotl]

It is the causal root of the control apparatus to the matrix. It will be reset.

So I am just in time to look at the transits for a recent experience..
Or has it been reset allready?

With Love
Eelco

[Qauntumreverse]

it is in transition

[PurpleLama]

So, the transits are in transition? :caked:

[araucaria]

What a shame this thread has died.

It did not die as such - it evolved, into the Here and Now thread, started as this one finished. There is still plenty of astrology within a broader palette that has shed the energy leakage of Ulli giving and others taking - this being part of the reason why that thread has lasted ten times longer and is still going strong.

[Catsquotl]

ah ok..
will find me a cottage there then.

with love
Eelco

[Jeffrey]

Alright, I have some questions about YODs. What the heck are those things, really? I've read conflicting ideas about them. I'm interested because there are four in my natal chart and there may or may not be some pretty difficult challenges spanning a wide area there depending on who/what I read.

Here they are (apex // sextile):


Moon 5deg Gem. // Neptune 5deg Capr. sextile Pluto 8deg Scorp.

Jupiter 28deg Ar. // Venus 26deg Virg. sextile Pallas 26deg Scorp.

Venus 26deg Virg. // Juno 28deg Aqu. sextile Jupiter 28deg Ar.

Pallas 26deg Scorp. // Chiron 29deg Gem. sextile Jupiter 28deg Ar.


Some share points and legs. They all fall within 3 degree orbs. I've attempted to interpret it, but not only is there conflicting information -- there's also the fact that there are four of them that share some planets. Also, all of them are within the first or last five degrees of another sign, maybe that affects their meaning (esp. for the later degrees)? I don't know.

I included the asteroids because one of the books I was flipping through said that those asteroids should be included when determining YODs.

Thanks in advance! :)

[Natalia]

I don't want to discuss astrology (at the mo)...just want to say...

I have both the Moon and Saturn in Cancer...I mostly try not to blame my astrology or even define myself with some of it...but, got to say, I see/feel that my loneliness and at times neediness (and not feeling whole - sometimes) is party to do with that. Help me please.

http://www.astrologyreadingsbyleslie.com/resources/20051213114240-woman-sitting-on-the-moon%20copia.jpg

[Calz]

I don't want to discuss astrology (at the mo)...just want to say...

I have both the Moon and Saturn in Cancer...I mostly try not to blame my astrology or even define myself with some of it...but, got to say, I see/feel that my loneliness and at times neediness (and not feeling whole - sometimes) is party to do with that. Help me please.

http://www.astrologyreadingsbyleslie.com/resources/20051213114240-woman-sitting-on-the-moon%20copia.jpg


You chose your birthtime based on what you are here to "learn".

Nothing "pre-ordained" but simply the related energies.

Title of thread is what ... :

Astrology as a "Know Yourself" tool


Moon in Cancer is a good place to start (so much more ... but you *can* help yourself you know)

[ulli]

I don't want to discuss astrology (at the mo)...just want to say...

I have both the Moon and Saturn in Cancer...I mostly try not to blame my astrology or even define myself with some of it...but, got to say, I see/feel that my loneliness and at times neediness (and not feeling whole - sometimes) is party to do with that. Help me please.

http://www.astrologyreadingsbyleslie.com/resources/20051213114240-woman-sitting-on-the-moon%20copia.jpg

I didn't even realise that this thread has had activity lately.
With Cancer the issue is belonging, familiarity, roots, comfort zones.
Since the moon is associated with this sign,
having the moon in Cancer makes for a stronger need in those matters.
Moon in Cancer (or the 4th house) is as if the umbilical cord was never cut.
It gives strong yearnings for motherhood, but also a strong need to be mothered or fed.

In contrast Saturn in Cancer (or the 4th house) wants to deny all these things.
Saturn is harsh, strict, masculine, rational.
So this placing is difficult for a person to manage, as the highs and lows follow one another so quickly.

Each time the moon is opposite it's own birth position the needle on the yearning scale goes up.
A few hours later (or earlier, depending one where exactly Saturn and the moon were originally)
one experiences the moon's opposition to Saturn and happiness vanishes,
with harsh reality causing depressive moods.

The best way to get a proper grip here is simply by studying astrology,
and by associating with people who share that placing, and comparing one's responses to these effects.

If Saturn and the moon are less than 7 degrees apart the issues are even more complicated.
Conscious work has to be done to forgive the mother, for example,
since the moon governs motherhood in general, and mothers in particular.

With Saturn that close to the moon there would be an outright denial of experiencing motherhood, or in case one has children at all,
they will harder lessons that most parents experience.

Yet despite all this negative stuff associated with Saturn he does bring rewards in the end, if the person has patience and diligence.

[aheb]

This is a bit off topic but I found out that Jimmy Savilles birthday was October 31st 1926. What does that say about him?

[ulli]

This is a bit off topic but I found out that Jimmy Savilles birthday was October 31st 1926. What does that say about him?

Yeah, I had a look at his chart the other day. This is just sketchy, as I don't know the birth time.

Venus, sun and Saturn in Scorpio.
Scorpio rules power, obsessiveness, passion, sex and death. Of course, not every Scorpio is a bad person, as those things can all be used to help mankind.
Savile could have become a surgeon, a brilliant gynaecologist, had he chosen that path.
Although come to think of it....with a Mercury in Sagittarius, which brings mental bravado and sloppy thinking, squaring his Neptune, he might have been better off writing rock lyrics in his spare time. Mercury square Neptune does open a person's mind to influences of the lower realms, but if they have a strong moral foundation they don't necessarily give in to those types of promptings.

Uranus trine his Mercury gave him the ability to become a radio show person, and his Mars in Taurus opposite his Scorpio sun made him a predator.
Again, not everyone with that placing would want to take that path.
Some might be real protectors, with all intention to make the world a safer place. Never siding with the dark side.

But these choices are before all of us, and astrology does not indicate with which end of the spectrum an individual is identified.
It is more about direction taken. Once a bad habit sets in- the longer one waits to control it, the harder it becomes to do a U-turn and create a life of real service.

He probably thought he was doing endless good, and gave himself permission (Mercury square Neptune) to indulge (Mars in Taurus) a bit.
It got out of hand when he got the green light from the elite.

The stars may whisper, they don't compel. This is ultimately up to each individual to make choices which then will impact their future development.

There will always be evil in this world, but woe unto the soul through whom it comes....

[rohannson]

Hello ulli, I sent you a PM ;)

[araucaria]

Apart from the sun in Scorpio, astrology wouldn't be expected to have much to say about the calendar dates like Hallowe'en that Satanists are so fond of. I also saw in a video that Leeds was a significant birthplace for the dark side, but it would be hard to confirm anything from a birth chart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeds.

Self-confessedly had no feelings, didn't know what love is - would these be in his chart?

[aheb]

Apart from the sun in Scorpio, astrology wouldn't be expected to have much to say about the calendar dates like Hallowe'en that Satanists are so fond of. I also saw in a video that Leeds was a significant birthplace for the dark side, but it would be hard to confirm anything from a birth chart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeds.

Self-confessedly had no feelings, didn't know what love is - would these be in his chart?

WEll that is an interesting point that I have never considered. Could the place of your birth have such an effect?
BTW I dispute the WIKI entry I don't accept that Leeds is the third largest city in the UK. You have London, Birmingham and Manchester which are all larger and I would imagine that Liverpool is also.

[Natalia]

You know what I find a bit or a lot of a struggle at times, is the opposing forces of privacy v sharing, openness v closing...someone who needs their own space and also connection...I have been working on being more open with the world over some years...one of my biggest fears was to reveal some things about myself...(it makes me feel unsafe)...

This can be seen in my chart (not that astrology is the only influence)

Strong Gemini (sun), strong Pluto (conjunct the ascendent - similar to Scorpio rising), strong Moon (in Cancer - I don't see/feel that Saturn in Cancer cancels it out but makes it stronger in some ways...like hyper emotional sensitivity inside - which is true for me but maybe not for some others with this position).

I was reluctant to share my sun sign here as I have quite often been misunderstood for it...I'm extremely feeling/sensitive and am more right brain than left...which is the opposite of how my sun sign is seen, but I'm not my sun sign! *giggle* :)

Anyway...it can be a struggle to have strongly opposing forces, so sometimes the best thing to do is to integrate...to give them both what they need...and, perhaps, to help them to be friends, and not enemies...

[ulli]

You know what I find a bit or a lot of a struggle at times, is the opposing forces of privacy v sharing, openness v closing...someone who needs their own space and also connection...I have been working on being more open with the world over some years...one of my biggest fears was to reveal some things about myself...(it makes me feel unsafe)...

This can be seen in my chart (not that astrology is the only influence)

Strong Gemini (sun), strong Pluto (conjunct the ascendent - similar to Scorpio rising), strong Moon (in Cancer - I don't see/feel that Saturn in Cancer cancels it out but makes it stronger in some ways...like hyper emotional sensitivity inside - which is true for me but maybe not for some others with this position).

I was reluctant to share my sun sign here as I have quite often been misunderstood for it...I'm extremely feeling/sensitive and am more right brain than left...which is the opposite of how my sun sign is seen, but I'm not my sun sign! *giggle* :)

Anyway...it can be a struggle to have strongly opposing forces, so sometimes the best thing to do is to integrate...to give them both what they need...and, perhaps, to help them to be friends, and not enemies...

Integrating planetary opposites is the way to go. Not easy, lots of slips, yet worth it. More than anyone can possibly realize.
Just contemplating one's chart, and studying the various energies which influence us, can bring new understanding.
The main thing all Geminis need to learn is that they are like messengers, who carry information, and as such don't normally look at the content of the information they pass on.
But since it is one's own soul direction we are dealing with it would be best to always know who one is working for. I'm speaking allegorically here. In other words, dig into what prompts you to share, especially the private stuff, and make sure you know exactly why you are doing it.
Because if sharing gets you in trouble over and over, and yet you keep on regardless, then ask yourself what is prompting you to share and open up. Maybe it's not necessarily a whiolesome energy. Unless you believe that what you share will benefit others immensely, why lay your vulnerabilities wide open?
Being private, being discreet, is just as much a virtue as is being open. It all depends on your main agenda.
I have lots of Aquarian energies, which often also caused me to open up more than necessary,
and I found out the hard way that this often had very adverse effects on my life. Nothing good ever came from it.
Once I became more active as an astrologer I needed to learn to keep my big mouth shut,
especially when it came to client confidentiality. Their secrets are sacred.
Fortunately I never had anyone who confessed child or spouse or animal abuse,
as that would have really given me a dilemma.

[Natalia]

You know what I find a bit or a lot of a struggle at times, is the opposing forces of privacy v sharing, openness v closing...someone who needs their own space and also connection...I have been working on being more open with the world over some years...one of my biggest fears was to reveal some things about myself...(it makes me feel unsafe)...

This can be seen in my chart (not that astrology is the only influence)

Strong Gemini (sun), strong Pluto (conjunct the ascendent - similar to Scorpio rising), strong Moon (in Cancer - I don't see/feel that Saturn in Cancer cancels it out but makes it stronger in some ways...like hyper emotional sensitivity inside - which is true for me but maybe not for some others with this position).

I was reluctant to share my sun sign here as I have quite often been misunderstood for it...I'm extremely feeling/sensitive and am more right brain than left...which is the opposite of how my sun sign is seen, but I'm not my sun sign! *giggle* :)

Anyway...it can be a struggle to have strongly opposing forces, so sometimes the best thing to do is to integrate...to give them both what they need...and, perhaps, to help them to be friends, and not enemies...

Integrating planetary opposites is the way to go. Not easy, lots of slips, yet worth it. More than anyone can possibly realize.
Just contemplating one's chart, and studying the various energies which influence us, can bring new understanding.
The main thing all Geminis need to learn is that they are like messengers, who carry information, and as such don't normally look at the content of the information they pass on.
But since it is one's own soul direction we are dealing with it would be best to always know who one is working for. I'm speaking allegorically here. In other words, dig into what prompts you to share, especially the private stuff, and make sure you know exactly why you are doing it.
Because if sharing gets you in trouble over and over, and yet you keep on regardless, then ask yourself what is prompting you to share and open up. Maybe it's not necessarily a whiolesome energy. Unless you believe that what you share will benefit others immensely, why lay your vulnerabilities wide open?
Being private, being discreet, is just as much a virtue as is being open. It all depends on your main agenda.
I have lots of Aquarian energies, which often also caused me to open up more than necessary,
and I found out the hard way that this often had very adverse effects on my life. Nothing good ever came from it.
Once I became more active as an astrologer I needed to learn to keep my big mouth shut,
especially when it came to client confidentiality. Their secrets are sacred.
Fortunately I never had anyone who confessed child or spouse or animal abuse,
as that would have really given me a dilemma.

Thank you Uli, that is a really really good question for me, why do I share? There are different reasons, not always known by others...and yeah not always consiously known by ourselves...

I'm good at keeping secrets (and usually don't even feel tempted to share them) and do not like to gossip about people..at work I stay away from commenting on gossip as much as poss...don't want to get all into that and don't like others taking mean about other people...at times I try and say something that might help the peace and love...but there have been times when I have talked about others and this has especially been when I felt like I needed to talk about feeling hurt about something that someone said or did or was like...(and good things about them) for years I didn't talk about something to do with a family member...then I felt like I really needed too...so that opening up may have been in my shadow...and I made mistakes with it and have learned a lesson from it...but still this is a good reminder! :)

[TomKat]

Donald's Trump's chart shows his Gemini Sun was conjunct (near) Uranus when he was born. Uranian people, usually Aquarius Sun, are famous for being ganged up on and railing futiley against the crowd. An example was Norman Mailer, who I recall railing against a booing audience on the Tonight Show, among other incidences:

https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/188301/norman-mailer-vs-big-media/

Added to the mix in Trump's case is his (hyper masculine) Mars rising in fiery Leo. Mars doesn't back down from a fight.

Trump was born to challenge the prevailing power. Hence his popularity among the powerless.

[Lunesoleil]

https://lunesoleil23.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/trump.png


Donald's Trump's chart shows his Gemini Sun was conjunct (near) Uranus when he was born.


More than that, Trump was born under a Lunar Eclipse, look at the axis of the lunar nodes on its Full Moon axis, with Mars conjunction in the ascendant, so that Mars is its dominant, since at the time of its birth Mars the was on the horizon. And who makes the bridge has its Full Moon axis and the why with the return of Mars in direct phase, it will return to the double sextile of its Sun / Uranus conjunction, is a good point for Trump ..

[Lunesoleil]

"How come everything is sooo perfect", instead of "how come everything is so imperfect?"


A fair reflection Ulli has to ask in astrology, because the people who come to see an astrologer, it is when everything goes wrong.
We often retain of astrology the negative part of an interpretation of the astrologer, even if by the way he will have noted positive points, to believe that we are unconsciously masochistic beings for ourselves?
In any case, I very much appreciated your vision of astrology.