Caught a Zetatalk blog with blatant disinfo

[Omni]

I debated whether to post this or not... I figured it's the right thing to do in case anyone is deceived by this source. This blog is covering up the truth in a manner in which the CIA would do so itself. It is so blatantly wrong, I question if Zetatalk is a PTB psy op completely myself. But there are other possibilities. I certainly think the Zetas if they exist, know about mind control. They get by posting blog posts like this hoping their readers know nothing about it....

I found this blog, and asked them questions I already know the answers to, to test their validity. Needless to say, they failed the test. I asked about artificial intelligence(AI), telepathy, and mind control. The blog post to my questions is here:

http://kamilism.tumblr.com/post/6511170386/artificial-intelligence-mind-control-and-telepathy

Here is the blatant, and plural occurances of disinfo.


In fact a human cannot be given a hypnotic suggestion they are not in accordance with,...
Blatantly false. Once you are in a hypnotic state of certain kinds, anything told to you that isn't VERY obvious it is not true(to memory, not analytical thought so much as that is negated by the hypnotic state for the most part), you can be in a very suggestible state. A person in certain states of hypnotic trances, can be manipulated very easily to do or think things they are NOT in accordance with, that is the whole point of doing it to them in a hypnotic state, so they don't really HAVE an accordance to interfere with the control, they just do what is said, or believe what is said etc. It's quite open source from my experiences. And very clearly does not have to be really truly in accordance with it in my experiences.


and during visitations the human is in control and can terminate contact at any time simply by willing it to be so.
Blatantly false unless you isolate 'visitation' to ETs that respect free will(which Zetas may, so they may be speaking of themselves, but simply terming it 'visitation' is not specific enough). Some people have been raped by ETs if you believe the testimony(one person I find credible has claimed such and also looked at her private parts with a blacklight and it was glowing green). They obviously couldn't terminate contact at that time.



Even the paralyzed state, which makes use of an old portion of the human brain that is akin to a possum’s brain, can be broken at will by the human.
Complete BS. I have had my body controlled in many ways. One way is to make me unable to move. They have done this to me many times. The movement, or lack of movement of the body, is fully open source. The channel in which signals are sent to cause movement by the brain, is fully open source, and fully negatable.




Nevertheless, the CIA did a considerable amount of casting about, trying to discover how aliens were able to paralyze humans and plant what they assumed to be post hypnotic suggestions. Needless to say, they did not succeed, but their fervor and rumors of this activity inspired such stories as the Manchurian Candidate, where humans, while unaware, are time bombs waiting to become absolute robots behaving in a preprogrammed manner. This is all so far from what is possible as to be positively silly.

The cherry on top I guess. Basically with mind control the Zetatalk blog says 'nothing to see here, you can't be mind controlled anything you aren't in accordance with'(Complete BS), 'the CIA failed'(more BS so pointedly wrong I wonder if this blog IS CIA lol), and 'covert mind control and programming people doesn't really exist'(more BS).

Be careful with anything you believe from Zetatalk IMO. Something like this, if you catch ANY disinfo, it corrupts the entire thing IMHO. It's supposed to be Zetas speaking this info, in other words every single thing would be right in terms of black and white things(non subjective). There are 3 possibilities here:

1) It's not really the Zetas(Gov psy op most likely).
2) It is the Zetas but they made deals to lie about some things(but don't want to).
3) It is the Zetas, and they are not trust worthy.

Pick one :p

Edit: Just realized this info could be from the Law of One OR Zetatalk. So my title may be misleading if the info about mind control is from the law of one. Anyone who has read all of the law of one stuff, was this said in that? A lot of people seem to like the law of one... I would say something like that, with more tangible philosophical offerings, is not so corrupted by one source of disinfo, however something supposedly coming from advanced ETs having any smidgeon of disinfo is pretty damning...

I will message the blog writer, and ask if its Lo1 or Zetatalk who says what I have quoted...

[loveandgratitude]

Zeta Talk, Planet X, & The Pole Shift Rocky Horror Show

From Ken Adachi, Editor
http://educate-yourself.org/lte/zetatalkrockhorrorshow08feb11.shtml
February 8, 2011, Update May 15, 2011

Zeta Talk, Planet X, & The Pole Shift Rocky Horror Show (Updated May 15, 2011) "You were right"

[Update May 15, 2011: The following e-mail exchange took place in early February of this year. The letter writer, Katherine, was experiencing a lot of personal agitation and trepidation because she succumbed to one of the many mind-conditioning psyops which the Illuminated Ones are running in order to keep those who buy into these Doom & Gloom scenarios in a state of fear, panic, and anxiety. I told Katherine in my last reply to her on Feb. 9 that I would look forward to hearing from her in early May and she will come to see that there were no Pole shifts or other dramatic expressions of earth changes or cataclysms which she had feared would occur because she read and bought into the BS at ZetaTalk. I just received her e-mail tonight, May 15, 2011. It contained exactly three words: "you were right".

Don't you go through the many months of worry and unfounded anxiety that Katherine had to go through in order to learn that all Doom & Gloom scenarios are set ups and hoaxes--EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WITHOUT EXCEPTION...Ken Adachi]

Subject: PX/Pole Shift 2011
From: Katherine
Date: Tue, February 8, 2011
To: Ken Adachi

Dear Mr. Adachi,

I found your site "Educate Yourself" just yesterday. I was ready to sell everything I had and move my family to a "safe place" and hide out in a trench until the dreaded Pole Shift to come. I'd lost sleep over what I'd been reading over at ZetaTalk and what seems to be its spin-off, poleshift.ning.com. In fear that I was losing my mind, I searched the net for some counter arguments for what seemed to be the truth on the impending shift,
and that's when I found your site.

I wanted to know if you have followed any of this stuff recently (I see your last post regarding Nancy Lieder was from '04?). The Zeta circle says we're now at the"7/10" event and the shift could take place this April. I also read somewhere about supposedly "leaked" info of the shift happening in March, with the government hiding this knowledge from the public, supposedly already prepared with bunkers for the Elite and millions of coffins already purchased by FEMA. I wanted to know what you think now? If your opinion has changed? How can we explain what's been going on Indonesia and all the other recent phenomena (from December 2010 and on, mass bird and fish die-offs and flooding in Asutrailia). Zetas say they predicted the current sinking of Indonesia and a European tsunami is next, with the shift happening soon after.

I appreciate your time.

Sincerely,

Katherine M.
Scared & Paranoid - Looking for Answers

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Subject: Re: PX/Pole Shift 2011
From: Katherine
Date: Tue, February 8, 2011 9:37 pm
To: Ken Adachi

Thank you for your reply. I look forward to hearing more of your insight on this topic, especially in regards to relevant current events as tracked on poleshift.ning.com.

Sincerely,

Katherine M.

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Hi Katherine,

I could write a novel about this because I've been putting up with the Zeta Talk psyops for a very long time, since they began in fact, in late 1995. I've ignored them since 2004 because there's no reason to go there and read anything they have to say.

I was as true a believer as you could possibly be. I read their files religiously for many years and knew their material inside out. I contributed to the Troubled Times forum all the time and I was routinely chatting with Nancy and all the regulars on her chat forum. I knew them all by first name. I wrote a synopsis called Coming Attractions that was plastered all over the internet which described the POLE SHIFT that WAS SUPPOSE to occur in late May or early June of 2003, but guess what? It never happened.

From the BEGINNING of her web site in October of 1995 until June of 2003, Nancy Leider and her wonderful band of STRAIGHT SHOOTING Zeta Reticula aliens were ADAMENT that the 12th Planet would come roaring through our solar system and cause a major pole shift with 300 mph winds, and massive tsunamis, and large parts of the USA would go under water, Japan would sink completely, etc, etc, etc. They published a list of SAFE AREAS to relocate to before the big Dooms Day arrival date of May 2003.

Does any of this sound familiar to you?

I was as anxious and worried as you are now. I thought the whole world was going to experience the worst catastrophic cataclysm and loss of life since the Great Flood and the sinking of Atlantis. The reason I believed it is BECAUSE I READ IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AT ZETA TALK for 6 or 7 years, so naturally I had invested a lot of belief in what they were predicting.

This is why I posted the article in 2004 I sent you called Planet X, The Sequel,in order to expose Zeta Talk for the CIA/NASA mind control psyops that it is.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/planetXsequel15jul;04.shtml

I can understand falling for the Zeta Talk deception the FIRST time around when they predicted the pole shift would occur in 2003, but what POSSIBLE excuse do people have to believe them the SECOND time around?

They simply MOVED up the date from 2003 to 2012, but I see now that they have re-adjusted the Dooms Day date to March or April of 2011.

That's Fantastic! You won't have to wait EIGHT long, anxious years like I did, in order to discover that they are LIARS.

There WILL BE NO pole shift in March or April, May, June or July. or any other month in this year or next. It won't happen.

Mark my words, after March and April pass without incident, Nancy will come up with some absolutely pathetic, lame excuse explaining away why it didn't happen and then just pick right up where she left off and announce a NEW Dooms Day date, likely in December 2012.

And I guarantee you, that there will be a NEW batch of suckers who will come to her web site and fall prey to her BS and get just as worried, anxious, and tied up in knots as you've gotten.

Stop worrying. The woman is under mind control. She's a propaganda tool of the CIA and NASA. Her little Zeta friends are under mind control too. They are controlled by the reptilians whose hybrid, shape-shifting agents are in control of the CIA, NASA, NSA, etc. and they are behind the whole psyops. The reptilians FEED OFF FEAR. It's like a food for them and they want to generate fear among humans in order to keep their agendas going. Without fear, the reptilians LOSE THEIR POWER over humanity.

see The Alien Influence on Humanity by Franz Erdl
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/alieninfluence1part.shtml

I'm not going to read anything posted to poleshift.ning.com. I don't care WHAT they have to say. I've already been burned once, I don't need to go through the process again.

The Zetas made the same sort of connections with unusual flooding and severe weather in the USA in 1996-99 and said it was due to the approaching Planet X, etc. The government is MANUFACTUING most of the earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, wind storms, droughts, etc. The Zetas can shape ANY STORY they want around GOVERNMENT CREATED events.

The coffins at FEMA have nothing to do with a pending Pole Shift. They are part of the NWO takeover treason when they declare martial law and think that Americans are going to willingly go to those FEMA concentration camps the way that European Jews did for the Nazis in the 1940s. I've got news for those treasonous slime balls at FEMA and DHS.

Please send me another e-mail in late April or early May and tell me about the pole shift that never happened.

By the way, their predicted date of April 1 is April Fool's Day.

Regards, Ken

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Subject: Re: PX/Pole Shift 2011
From: Katherine
Date: Wed, February 9, 2011
To: Ken Adachi

Mr. Adachi,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question and sharing your insight. I don't even remember how I stumbled upon the whole PX/Pole Shift thing online in the first place. I guess I'm an example of "stand for
nothing, fall for anything" right now. Not having as strong a belief system as I should, I see how I could be vulnerable. Aware of my tendency towards paranoia in the first place, I should've been more skeptical about all the seemingly true info put out by ZT and poleshift.ning. I mean, they put out a lot of theories that I agree could be true (NWO, paranormal activity, etc.) along with tying in all the recent natural gloabl phenomena *right now
*, i.e. animal die-offs, erratic weather, etc. PLUS citing biblical references and ancient legends, it all can be very convincing.

I found myself not being able to function in my present day life because I was so worried. But before selling everything to be able to move to a"safe" spot, I decided to research the credibility of the person behind this, Nancy Lieder, and I came across your post. Your mention of people actually moving to mountainous areas and postponing having children, really struck a chord with me. What would happen if my "hunch" to pack up and move was wrong? I could deal with my family and friends thinking I'd gone crazy. But giving up everything and putting my husband and kids through all that - if nothing happened - how would we rebuild in this economy? I'd better be 100% sure.

Anyhow, thanks again for sharing your thoughts. I am trying to quickly regain normalcy in my life, albeit with some changes. At the very least, I will strive to free myself of my materialistic ways and be more conscious of
my impact on the world around me... Also, being more wary of "false prophets" trying to sell books and learning to be more self-reliant. With so much disinformation out there, who can we trust?

I look forward to emailing in a few months to say you were right.

Best regards,

Katherine M.

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Hi Katherine,

I had the same feelings about Zeta Talk when I was a believer as you've expressed in this reply. I agree that the majority of their info is accurate or very close to the truth. But they massage some "truths" to fit their Doom & Gloom predictions. Example, when I was avidly reading their stuff in the 1990s, they were touting the recently discovered genetic malformation of frogs in some locations as a tip off of a great disturbance in Nature that was due to the approaching 12th Planet. Around the same time, Major Ed Dames, the infamous remote viewing BS artist and CIA/military intelligence spin doctor was also telling the Art Bell, Coast to Coast radio audience about the malformation of frogs too, so they both seemed to corroborate.

In current times, Zeta Talk is using the dead birds and fish stories as an indicator of the approach of Planet X, which is what they did with the malformed frogs in 1998 or 99, but the US military is likely behind these animal killings anyway. How difficult would it have been for the military or the CIA to poison some ponds where frogs would normally hatch or expose the frog eggs to X-Rays or radioactive particles dumped into the pond which in turn would cause the DNA damage that would lead to the malformed frogs? Then they pepper the newspaper with dire reports of inexplicable malformed frogs and then Ed and Nancy go on the radio and "explain" the reason behind the malformed frogs. I mean, it is so EASY to set this up and make it APPEAR to be natural events unfolding in Nature.

ZS Livingstone provided at least one reasonable explanation for the dead birds and fish when he posted this story: Is Phosgene Gas causing Bird and Fish Kills? by ZS Livingstone (Jan. 13, 2011)

http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/phosgenegas13jan11.shtml

The US government and US military have all the advanced technology they need to make the weather do whatever they want it to do. It's no longer a great secret that the military has space-based beam weapon platforms which can cause earthquakes (or tsunamis) at targeted locations. ZSL reported their attacks on the Gulf of Aden just a couple of months ago. They use Tesla scalar technology as well to cause really big quakes. The government created, jacked up , and steered Hurricane Katrina straight into New Orleans in 2005. Everyone with a brain knows that now, just like everyone with a brain knows that 911 was an Inside Job.

I also quoted their Biblical quotes/references and ancient text referrals when I wrote my Coming Attractions synopsis in 1997. Zeta Talk employs all of these clever references and seemingly valid allusions to ancient writings in order to suck you in and GET YOU TO BELIEVE THEM.

Your reaction to the info posted at Zeta Talk, mentioned in this latest reply, parallels almost word for word the same feelings that I had at the time. It is only people who have THOROUGHLY read Zeta Talk that become so completely CONVINCED that the info is legit. It is one of those rear circumstances where being serious and dedicated can work against you.

Look forward to hearing from you in early May when the flowers and Springtime are just coming into bloom.

Regards, Ken

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Subject: Re: PX/Pole Shift 2011
From: Katherine M
Date: Sun, May 15, 2011 11:11 pm
To: Ken Adachi

You were right.

Katherine

[toothpick]

Excellant idea for a thread, man.
I am so glad you decided to post it, thanks Omniverse.
There is so much info out there to take in it,s just incredible.
The insidious disinformaton links are truly infuriating and confusing.
Especially for beginners and novices like myself, the disinformaton makes the journey a lot tougher.
Please, keep up the good work, man, for all of us.

toothpick

[ulli]

I hate to admit it but I fell for the Zetas for a while in 2002. Thank God for my inner skeptic. I was already on Nancy Lieder's forum when I decided to go to some amateur astronomy forums, just to see what the opposition had to say.
I learnt there how to distinguish what resonates within me and what doesn't.

Then I came across a statement by the Zetas that Costa Rica would be unsafe due to the fact that it was a flat country and would be flooded. Well, it was lol time...those Zetas didn't even get their geography right, let alone astronomy.

I wonder who funds all these offices that spew out disinfo...the American tax payer?

[Omni]

It was Zetatalk, as I originally thought. Here is the link to the statements: http://www.zetatalk.com/govmt/g58.htm

And thanks for the posts Ulli and L&G. I thought I may be smeared for bringing this up, and it would become my credibility VS the Zetatalk's and maybe a sycophant defending zetatalk(just mind controlled fears). I was told telepathically to not mess with Zetatalk, and let them be. And also threatened that if I expose Zetatalk on any of my websites, there will be retribution.... I'm not sure I will expose them on my websites or blogs. I certainly don't want to be a debunker at all on my sites, regardless of the threats(which they also told me to not speak about lol). But on the other hand something like this should be spoken. I'm glad other websites have done it already...

[The Truth Is In There]

i accept many of the zeta's predictions as possibilities. not everything but a lot of their messages, in particular those that refer to earth changes. many of them have come true already and what they say regarding the mechanics of a pole shift makes a lot more sense to me than the other theories i've heard about.

however, true or not, it should be obvious that this material is not for everyone. if people are prone to fear they should perhaps stay away from anything that creates or increases their fear. that's just common sense. personally, i admit that i thrive on end-of-the-world scenarios and find them totally uplifting so the whole pole shift message of the zetas has a very good feel to me. i'm quite positive that i'm neither mind-controlled nor reptilian offspring, i just don't put a negative label on depopulation via natural means such as a pole shift because bodies are just vehicles and we're all here for the action anyway.

so, since most people tend to believe the things they want to hear even though they might be disinfo i guess many followers of the zetas are no different than those who wait for portals to open or benign ETs to pick them up or for the rapture. maybe zeta followers are just catastrophy-junkies or simply fed up with the world as it is right now.

that said, i agree that the mind control stuff omni mentioned as coming from the zetas is clearly disinfo. that however makes no difference to me because what's more important is their messages about the earth changes and ultimately the pole shift and i can see the evidence for that every day in the web. there are also a lot of crop circles which deal with an inbound object, the earth wobble, the pole shift etc. so unless the zetas create those too we have to assume that the circle makers agree with the them on that count.

[jasontorque]

This is a very good counterbalancing thread and in my opinion, we need to see more of this lucid thinking articulated here in the forum. Has anyone come across Gordon Gianninoto? He's been advocating this material quite rigorously on the Kevin Smith show recently.

[ananda]

I agree exactly with what you are saying. Zeta Talk is a mish mash of true and false info. The 2003 "white Lie" was ridiculous.(unless it ties with Onyx's info that the Planet was blasted apart.) Then wouldn't they say that? There is also a feeling of disdain for us as a species. We have to keep in mind that their ultimate agenda is to use our genetics for a new hybrid species that they plan on putting here! I read all of it years back and it resonated in many ways. But what struck me one day was that everyone asked about all these psychics and channelers and whether or not they were real. According to them, pretty much all were legit, EXCEPT Barbara Marciniak and her Pleaidian info, who they said was under delusion. That sealed it for me as disinformation because in my gut, her Pleadian info is some of the best stuff out there. In fact, I recently went back and reread Bringers of the dawn, which I first encountered more than 13 years ago. It not only still stands up, but much of what they said has come about.

[RMorgan]

I think it´s just a fat guy, living on his mom´s house basement, with an x-files poster on his wall and a star trek vhs collection sitting on his bookshelf.

You know, some fat and bald guys go to chat rooms and pretend they are gorgeous red haired girls.

Some guys make blogs saying they are vampire and werewolves.

Other guys wear alien clothes, make videos and post them on youtube, just for the pleasure to see "alien freaks" believing they are genuine.

There are some other guys that spend all their lives inside games like Second Life, The Sims, and World of Warcraft.

Some other guys give radio interviews claiming they are part of the Galactic Federation of Light.

There´s also the kind of guy, who pretends he´s a Zeta, or Pleiadian, or whatever.

This is the internet folks. This is a relatively new social phenomenon and we´re not used to it yet. Here, discernment is not enough to distinguish truth from lies.

Here, you´ll never know who´s really behind the screen.

Here, lots of mentally ill persons, whom, in the past, would just be hanging around the streets, carrying doomsday cardboard posters, or throwing rocks on cars, meet other equally mentally ill persons, to create all kinds of crazy realities and theories. When naive persons get lost among this guys, they just get completely disoriented.

Everybody can create a website in just a few hours, to claim to be whatever they want to be and, I guarantee, lots of people will believe. Do you want me to tell you why?

It´s because they don´t actually have to convince anyone. Most people who searches on Google about Zetas/Vampires/Whatever, are searching, because they already believe in them!!!

So, when they come across a website like ZetaTalk, they already are 99% predisposed to believe in it!!! It´s that simple.

[Maia Gabrial]

Good, Omniverse,
It sounds like you're making a stand against the AI's. Feels good to take back a part of your sovereignty, doesn't it? Maybe the day will come when you can tell them to get lost, and they will.
Thanks for this thread because at one time I thought about checking into Zetatalk. Now I won't....Nothing disgusts me more than lies, secrecies and deception....

[ClandestineDisclosure]

Half their PX pictures are lens flares and the rest can be attributed quite easily to other factors. I don't care what kind of picture you're looking at or what appears to be in it. Pick up a camera yourself and start testing your self. Seriously, people are getting all worked up over lens flares and other light refractions.