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Philbert
22nd May 2010, 23:49
This footage is from the Apollo 11 mission. This presentation shows you that the Apollo 11 Crew did in fact encounter other alien craft. Other I.C.O Intelligently Controlled Objects are flying up from the surface of the moon and stopping in the vicinity of the command module. These are not dust or scratches on the film. These in fact are alien craft.

Please take the time to seriously view the footage and judge for yourself.
Many craft are rising straight up toward the perspective of the camera and appear as small dots and then larger as they are closer to viewers perspective.

These objects move in the typical speed and fashion as many U.F.Os have been reported as being.

Check out my other presentations on YouTube User Name Ufoevidence101


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jZqyJPJvfA

SkepticSoul
23rd May 2010, 07:00
Nice find Philbert, I wonder what they are doing on the moon xD
Has this video been released recently or sum time ago? Because i see this video has been posted on the 19th of may, that's pretty recent :)
If it is released to public that recent, means disclosure would be coming real soon :) and i mean not by governments and stuff but like a quiet whispering revolution :-)

Peace and love to all

Richard
23rd May 2010, 11:49
Sorry, this is not "evidence" of anything other than celluloid wear. Same as the "structures" on mars photos that some still think are real. There is nothing there, at least in the photos. People see what they hope/want to see. nothing more.

A planet yearning for change and disclosure is similar to the man dying of thirst in the desert, he sees mirage after mirage believing he is close to water, but it''s all just sand.

Philbert
23rd May 2010, 22:39
Sorry, this is not "evidence" of anything other than celluloid wear. Same as the "structures" on mars photos that some still think are real. There is nothing there, at least in the photos. People see what they hope/want to see. nothing more.

A planet yearning for change and disclosure is similar to the man dying of thirst in the desert, he sees mirage after mirage believing he is close to water, but it''s all just sand.
A mirage in the desert is in reality the heat rising from the surface of the hot sand that distorts the area and makes it look like a body of water. Mirage an optical illusion in which atmospheric refraction by a layer of hot air distorts or inverts reflections of distant objects. You can get the same effect looking down a long stretch of blacktop, it too will appear to have water across the road. No mirage here, what you see is what is there.
This has nothing to do with a planet yearning for disclosure these are the facts
If we think the evidence will go away with excuses we are in denial.

Have a look at the follow video, it shows the hard evidence of UFOs rising from the moon surface and returning. Disc shaped as well as others. You must be ready to believe your eyes or denial will take over your mind.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGLD0yAzRnQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpPL3pC8FwU

Humble Janitor
24th May 2010, 04:38
Keep trying to hide it folks but you really can't. The truth is impossible to stop and once it's contagious, you might as well count your prayers.

ArtyCarl
24th May 2010, 06:28
I know most of the people on here are well-meaning individuals but to say that these 'spots' are 'intelligent controlled craft', is just sheer wishful thinking. I have home movies shot in the 60's with similar 'spots' that come and go so can I safely assume they are intelligent alien life visiting me or should I just use simple common sense and suspect they are anomalies on the film. I admire peoples optimism but come on.

morguana
24th May 2010, 06:45
I know most of the people on here are well-meaning individuals but to say that these 'spots' are 'intelligent controlled craft', is just sheer wishful thinking. I have home movies shot in the 60's with similar 'spots' that come and go so can I safely assume they are intelligent alien life visiting me or should I just use simple common sense and suspect they are anomalies on the film. I admire peoples optimism but come on.

exactly artcarl, they look like artifacts that often appeared on older film footage.
that is not to say that things dont fly around the moon because im sure thay do, incidently i have a friend whom works for euro space agency and a part of his job is to analyse data sent back form the moon, so when it comes down to things to do with the moon i take what he says very seriously.

lightblue
24th May 2010, 07:24
exactly artcarl, they look like artifacts that often appeared on older film footage.
that is not to say that things dont fly around the moon because im sure thay do, incidently i have a friend whom works for euro space agency and a part of his job is to analyse data sent back form the moon, so when it comes down to things to do with the moon i take what he says very seriously.

please don't leave it to this dear morgana..what does your friend say? i don't have friends in the know...
thanks :thank_you2: l

morguana
24th May 2010, 08:39
well lets put it this way.....he has no imagination and when he says that there is nothing there, i am inclined to believe him (especially given what he has shown me in the past, we go back to age of 13)
m

Ruis
24th May 2010, 09:01
I've met the guy and can confirm that statement!
:p

morguana
24th May 2010, 09:06
I've met the guy and can confirm that statement!
:p

hehe, do you remember how i had to brush his teeth and tuck him up? lol bless..........have txt him re avebury meet.
and when we left him talking to that group!!! lol, we laughted so much our sides hurt......so funny!

Richard
24th May 2010, 12:19
Have a look at the follow video, it shows the hard evidence of UFOs rising from the moon surface and returning. Disc shaped as well as others. You must be ready to believe your eyes or denial will take over your mind.


I am not in denial nor am i a disbeliever in alien life, I know they exist, and I Know they are here too. However pushing a aged piece of film which shows typical wear a tear of films from that era and shows nothing of what you are claiming is simply a lie. What it comes down to is intent, is it your intent to deceive and confuse or are you deceived and confused.
There is no evidence of anything "alien" here, it's all quite human from what I see. lol

Here at Project Avalon I feel we all have the responsibility to get the truth out to a sleeping or semi awake population. Before releasing videos or documents we need to be more discerning on the subject matter. Promoting material as Hard Evidence when it is obviously not is harmful to the mission we have here. Videos like this have been posted here before, usually asking questions and promoting debate with other members on what the artifacts may be. Something like this thread. posted as "evidence" sets us back a ways in the area of credibility.

Please take time to really evaluate material before posting it, or post it as a question for other members to ponder as well.

You must be ready to question your eyes or fantasy will take over your mind

Philbert
24th May 2010, 22:21
I stand my ground I have many thousands of hours investigating this material. If you don't take the time to discern the material in front of you then you can easily say without any proof that it is not real. But unfortunately this is real and I am not trying to deceived or confuse, nor am I deceived or confuse. I resent that you would think I would deliberately try and deceive. It is though you are trying to burry any truth that you cannot come to grips with. Did you not carefully look at the footage and see the objects go from small to large as they came up from the moon surface, did you not see the saucer shape craft, did you not see the object fly right in front of the Apollo Film. It is not hard to see, but may be hard for some to accept. I stand by my work. I have seen hundreds if not thousands of proofs. These are not film defects as you are trying to promote.

Yes the truth cannot be covered forever it will come out if we want it to or not.

ArtyCarl
25th May 2010, 07:33
Hi Philbert, nobody here is accusing you of deceit but you have to recognise that many people here have spent much of their lifetimes looking at, so called, evidence for the existence of intelligent life other than ourselves. If there is one thing I have learned in my own 30+ years of searching it is that people will generally see what they want to see. If you ask 100 people what they think of your video and statement I suspect at least 90 would say it was probably an anomaly of the film or film-making process...while that does not make the other 10 or so people wrong, that significant proportion should make you think hard about what you are asking us to believe.

For myself I use the 'most probably' rule. If I see a picture of a weird shape in the sky, I think it is 'most probably' a bird or plane as we know those things inhabit the sky. There are always those who would argue that it 'might' be an extraterrestrial craft, and because we can never be 100% certain, it might well be, but you have to use some common sense.

Had you presented the videos and asked for opinions, you might have received a warmer reception, but making statements like 'Did you not carefully look at the footage and see the objects go from small to large as they came up from the moon surface, did you not see the saucer shape craft, did you not see the object fly right in front of the Apollo Film', is a little insulting to those who have spent many years investigating.

watchZEITGEISTnow
25th May 2010, 08:00
Awesome work mate - check out my video the Flash taken from last year - it is quite interesting, also note the music played on the original Jaxa video (off their youtube account) linked - almost as to make a point!
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Philbert
25th May 2010, 23:43
@watchZEITGEISTnow;21232

That is awesome work my friend, you sure do have an eye for catching the small stuff that is overlooked by many. I seen the other video you had done with the object shooting up from the surface of the Moon, You should post that here as well.

Keep up the great work and send me anything you find I'm very interested in seeing more of your finds.

I edited this to remove the quote and not have the video post again.

Celine
25th May 2010, 23:46
I stand my ground I have many thousands of hours investigating this material. If you don't take the time to discern the material in front of you then you can easily say without any proof that it is not real. But unfortunately this is real and I am not trying to deceived or confuse, nor am I deceived or confuse. I resent that you would think I would deliberately try and deceive. It is though you are trying to burry any truth that you cannot come to grips with. Did you not carefully look at the footage and see the objects go from small to large as they came up from the moon surface, did you not see the saucer shape craft, did you not see the object fly right in front of the Apollo Film. It is not hard to see, but may be hard for some to accept. I stand by my work. I have seen hundreds if not thousands of proofs. These are not film defects as you are trying to promote.

Yes the truth cannot be covered forever it will come out if we want it to or not.




Fine...You claim its real...

Do you have tech support? experts in the field? anything else backing you up? where are the notes from 1000's of hours of reasearch?

Many would greatly benefit from that kind of knowledge..

Philbert
26th May 2010, 00:43
Fine...You claim its real...

Do you have tech support? experts in the field? anything else backing you up? where are the notes from 1000's of hours of reasearch?

Many would greatly benefit from that kind of knowledge..
Did Einstein or Edison get skeptics? of course they did, but that did not make their work invalid. I understand it to be real.
For what reason do others believe it not to be? for the simple fact that many are not accustomed to seeing or discerning such information.


Does that make it invalid? No, it makes it uncommon.

Every extraordinary thing we encounter will make us question our own understanding.
Common sense is what is common to most peoples understanding. Common sense is what is been taught as common understanding of things and what is popular. When things go outside the realm of whats popular understanding is, or has been pushed onto people, they cringe at the sight of what is in front of them.

Hey we all do it, I have also, but in order to fully put it to rest as being a truth or not, one must take time to do the work and investigate it.

Like for instance, a water molecule contains two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom.
This is basic chemistry, (H2o) If someone was to tell you that through a simple process a person can separate the two hydrogen atoms from the one oxygen atom and create a fuel many would not believe it to be so, as popular understanding keeps this information in the dark.

The simple process can be done at home with low cost materials.
Take a canning jar and fill it 90% with water.
Then take a 1/4 tablespoon of baking soda and mix it into the water.
Next take two stainless steel rods and place them in the water soda solution.
Keep them separate from the other by several inches, not letting them touch each other.
Now connect a 12 volt source to the electrodes, one connected to positive and the other to the negative.
Wait about 30 seconds and the solution will begin to bubble.

The bubbles are the oxygen and hydrogen separation coming to the surface, these are flammable.

Now some will scoff at that idea and not believe or understand what I just wrote. Because it is not popular or common knowledge. But it is an alternative energy source.

The reality may not sink in until the individual takes the time to conduct their own research into the area. If that individual does not take the time to fully investigate it, that does not make it invalid but only for their own reasoning and understanding.

Richard
26th May 2010, 03:32
... It is though you are trying to burry any truth that you cannot come to grips with. Did you not carefully look at the footage and see the objects go from small to large as they came up from the moon surface, did you not see the saucer shape craft, did you not see the object fly right in front of the Apollo Film. It is not hard to see, but may be hard for some to accept. I stand by my work. I have seen hundreds if not thousands of proofs. These are not film defects as you are trying to promote.

Yes the truth cannot be covered forever it will come out if we want it to or not.

Philbert
I am not denying the truth about aliens, i have had personal experience with some of the less than benign ones.
They are as real as air to me, ok?
For gods sake man, you can't just post a video with little circles and proclaim it as evidence.
That won't fly here. Avalon is somewhat more discerning about evidence than other forums on similar topics.
If the blips on the old NASA footage are ships then back it up with some of the thousands of bits proof you have as the film does not stand as evidence by itself by any means.
I admire the amount of time researchers like you invest in these matters and look forward to reading some of your findings.

Cheers

Philbert
26th May 2010, 06:18
Philbert
I am not denying the truth about aliens, i have had personal experience with some of the less than benign ones.
They are as real as air to me, ok?
For gods sake man, you can't just post a video with little circles and proclaim it as evidence.
That won't fly here. Avalon is somewhat more discerning about evidence than other forums on similar topics.
If the blips on the old NASA footage are ships then back it up with some of the thousands of bits proof you have as the film does not stand as evidence by itself by any means.
I admire the amount of time researchers like you invest in these matters and look forward to reading some of your findings.

Cheers

The footage stands on it own for anyone willing to actually see the very clear saucer shaped craft flying in the vicinity of the Apollo Crew Film as well as other unidentified objects that can be seen clearly being operated with intelligence. This is if one wants to see them, as many have seen them for themselves in this footage. If someone decides not to see then it is still ok. It is up to the individual of their interpretation and perception as to their acceptance of the material. This I am not against. But if a video has obvious craft shaped anomalies that appear to be controlled then it is the same as a video shot of a tornado. If someone wants to not believe it is a tornado in the footage when it c can be discerned as one, then it is that persons right to not have to accept what looks and shaped and moves across the video as a tornado. But rejection of the material with no basis other than not recognizing or investigation into the obvious should not subject it to ridicule.
All anyone has to do is take some time to review the footage several times over and should be able to discern the obvious. Specks and film age marks will not show characteristics of distant objects that move in perfectly strait lines and patterns in over 50,000 frames of film. Defects in the footage would not consistently show up as definite UFo shaped craft flying in and out and landing on the command module as was seen in the footage.


If we believe in other life forms and also believe they are here visiting us on the planet, then why is it against our comprehension to accept the possibility this footage would show the same intelligence near the earths moon. Why would they not stop at them Moon. Why would'nt they, if they are that advanced over us by years, not already have claim to pieces, if not the entire moon and its vicinity.

Why would it be hard to think then also that other life forms that have the ability to come across the universe they would also be outposts on all planets within our solar system near our earth.

If the government has know about visiting E/Ts for over 50 years, then why is not conceivable to think they are not already planted firmly in our solar system and Moons. Is this not possible to believe that these beings of superior intelligence would not establish these places throughout the solar system.

Sorry if I don't understand your point, but then again everyone should be able to hold to their solid ground based on solid rezoning.

The footage evidence is there for everyone to determine for themselves and should not be undermined with other than what is evidently shown in the footage and can be shown as such
as is with this footage. If someone cannot see the objects that plainly rise from the surface of the moon in the background, up to the command module and then return that is their right. But that still does not make it not true, for many times people have been shown things that they could not see and then found out they where actually there.

My replies to this thread are closed and I will now leave it up to those in the Project Avalon community and its individuals to believe or not believe as they see fit on these alleged ideas.


Peace be to all
Sincerely To all.

Celine
26th May 2010, 15:38
Solid reasoning? Lol

You offer no proof...

just a sense of... "ya gotta believe"

This stuff wont fly at PA.

Oh and Einstein... backed his stuff up with published work.

Until you offer something more concrete then " if you want to belive" (uncle walt started that didnt he?), i find nothing of value in your thread.

Philbert
26th May 2010, 16:34
Solid reasoning? Lol

You offer no proof...

just a sense of... "ya gotta believe"

This stuff wont fly at PA.

Oh and Einstein... backed his stuff up with published work.

Until you offer something more concrete then " if you want to belive" (uncle walt started that didnt he?), i find nothing of value in your thread.

Great you are entitled to your own opinion and beliefs, oh I have published work also but many will find a way to excuse it also. You contradict your self when you say I just give a sense of "ya gotta believe" and then you go on to write "Until you offer something more concrete then if you want to believe".
People are entitled to their opinions and that does fly most anywhere. I never said "you have to believe" If you got the sense that I was intending you must believe, it is an assumption on your own senses. For just in my last post I stated that you can believe or not it is up to the individual to believe it or not based on their individual thought and projections of their individual understanding and knowledge. Of course not everyone is going to believe, and that is ok.


We should be careful what we laugh at as we may be laughing at ourselves only.

Celine
26th May 2010, 16:38
You are NOT offering opinion..

You are offering FACT

i am asking you to prove it..

You can not..

Case closed.

You will find most avalonians feel the same way i do..

Just most dont type/talk for nothing..they have an easier time ignoring this kind of fluff.

Now if you have some published work..i will love to read it. if it relates to this thread

Philbert
26th May 2010, 19:26
You are NOT offering opinion..

You are offering FACT

i am asking you to prove it..

You can not..

Case closed.

You will find most avalonians feel the same way i do..

Just most dont type/talk for nothing..they have an easier time ignoring this kind of fluff.

Now if you have some published work..i will love to read it. if it relates to this thread

Oh and you would like me to believe you about your claim that "You will find most avalonians feel the same way i do" and then you go on to claim "Just most dont type/talk for nothing. they have an easier time ignoring this kind of fluff." where is your proof that most feel the same as you do but just don't type or talk and would rather ignore this kind of stuff. You have no proof of your claim so I guess we are both in the same boat. We have claims but nothing to back up the words that come out of our mouths.

Why would you believe anything I have written when you refuse to even entertain anything that is visual?
I will not get into a fighting match with you over this, the published work I have that is greater than any story I could tell you is here for the individual to evaluate and investigate. How would writings be of any suitable evidence when someone refuses to look into the visual.
Just not making any sense to me, It may to you because that is what you need.

I could present to you and everyone else here 100 pages of research and it would not be as good as the real McCoy.
Again who would most people believe in someone with actual footage of a tornado or someone who wrote and investigation of an alleged tornado. If you where told a story about a bowel of pudding that grew leggs and walked off. Would you believe the story? Or would a video of the actual even convince you to look into it? The proof is always in the pudding. You do the math.

I am sorry if my research and published work is not good enough for you to spark your interest in doing your own investigation into my findings whether they are false or true, people still owe it to themselves to investigate.

It is ok that you disagree based on what you feel is not enough proof. Others will not feel the same and they will go off and do their own research still. Many will feel as you do and feel they have nothing further to investigate.

That is ok with me. I still stand behind my work and research.
End of debate.

thedot
26th May 2010, 19:40
You are NOT offering opinion..

You are offering FACT

i am asking you to prove it..

You can not..

Case closed.

You will find most avalonians feel the same way i do..

Just most dont type/talk for nothing..they have an easier time ignoring this kind of fluff.

Now if you have some published work..i will love to read it. if it relates to this thread

Céline,

The tone of your comments is shocking (if not worse).

Do you love your mother?

"I am asking you to prove it.

You can not.

Case closed."

Celine
26th May 2010, 19:44
Oh and you would like me to believe you about your claim that "You will find most avalonians feel the same way i do"


If you notice, the sentence started with "you will find"...that is in no way a claim that you should belive me, it speaks of experience with presenting information, on this forum.

and then you go on to claim "Just most dont type/talk for nothing. they have an easier time ignoring this kind of fluff." where is your proof


Many good people here at PA...how many out of the hundreds of members have comented on your thread? less then a dozen.

We have claims but nothing to back up the words that come out of our mouths.

The burden of proof does not lay on me. You are the one offerring "evidence"

Why would you believe anything I have written when you refuse to even entertain anything that is visual?

That is your reasoning for not sharring your expert research?

I will not get into a fighting match with you over this, the published work I have that is greater than any story I could tell you is here for the individual to evaluate and investigate.

Link please?





Again who would most people believe in someone with actual footage of a tornado or someone who wrote and investigation of an alleged tornado.

When i see a picture of a tornado, i know its a tornado. You are not presenting anything new. We have seen this all before.



I am sorry if my research and published work is not good enough for you to spark your interest

Where is your research?

It is ok that you disagree based on what you feel is not enough proof. Others will not feel the same and they will go off and do their own research still. Many will feel as you do and feel they have nothing further to investigate.

You are not the first to bring this to the perverbial table... Do not assume we have not done our own research.

That is ok with me. I still stand behind my work and research.

Link please

End of debate.

Welcome to Project Avalon

Celine
26th May 2010, 19:52
Céline,

The tone of your comments is shocking (if not worse).

Do you love your mother?

"I am asking you to prove it.

You can not.

Case closed."

I understand your point of view...and i am sorry if my tone was misunderstood..

This kind of spreading the truth...does not help the goal. IMO

But The original Poster, is making a claim of evidence.. proof... tangible..

thedot
26th May 2010, 20:04
I understand your point of view...and i am sorry if my tone was misunderstood..

This kind of spreading the truth...does not help the goal. IMO

But The original Poster, is making a claim of evidence.. proof... tangible..

You should have written "IMHO". And please stop writing "Welcome to Project Avalon". You are discrediting it.

Celine
26th May 2010, 20:10
You should have written "IMHO". And please stop writing "Welcome to Project Avalon". You are discrediting it.

Yes..i usualy use the IMHO acronym... forgive my for omiting it this time.


Discrediting it? I meant nothing of the sort.. i meant..that when you present information as fact, without backing it up..at PA you will get this kind of reaction... and i only wrote it once...gues sit touched a cord with you..forgive me please.

We are all subject to that here.

thedot
26th May 2010, 20:15
Yes..i usualy use the IMHO acronym... forgive my for omiting it this time.


Discrediting it? I meant nothing of the sort.. i meant..that when you present information as fact, without backing it up..at PA you will get this kind of reaction... and i only wrote it once...gues sit touched a cord with you..forgive me please.

We are all subject to that here.

Dear Céline,

There are SO many truths that cannot be proved, and there are SO many "facts" of no value! What we've all seen on the 9/11 are facts; do they have anything to do with truth??

Please don't judge :)

Celine
26th May 2010, 20:18
I agree, thedot...

Truth is a great debate topic..

But this thread was started as " concise proof"

This is a diffrent subject IMO

thedot
26th May 2010, 20:29
I agree, thedot...

Truth is a great debate topic..

But this thread was started as " concise proof"

This is a diffrent subject IMO

:) I'm sorry for my own "hard" tone. This forum (as any) is all and exclusively about expressing subjective opinions, not about establishing The Absolute Truth about anything. It's to EVERY ONE to decide what is true. Facts and proofs are nothing but raw materials for truth. It's only in our mind that they can become truth. If they have a chance. :)

Philbert
28th May 2010, 03:56
If you are investigating this type of work it is suggested that you may have to view the presentation several times to reveal more to your own understanding and knowledge. If this information and visual aspect of the Apollo mission is quite new to you please take the time to review the presentation over and over to get a better understanding of what may be going on in the footage.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK3xp2hI2OE




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQKRQO3CfFw&NR=1



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivFYn5JNwxw&feature=related




Again it is up to the individual to thoroughly get a clear understanding of what is being presented here.
Viewing this half way or only one time will not help in determining whether if it is anything of importance to your research.

Celine
29th May 2010, 14:14
You are saying, if i view these videos, 5 times? 10? it will prove to me that this is footage of alien space craft?

Fredkc
29th May 2010, 15:04
A POX on dbl-posts, says I !!!

Fred

Fredkc
29th May 2010, 15:04
Ok, I've only been at this since 1973, so I may be a lil bit behind the rest of you, but...

If I had a nickel for every "positive proof" that turned out to be yet another "fuzzy dot"
I would buy Bill his own TV show, and maybe a villa in the islands, next to mine.

I have no doubt we aren't the only ones here.
If I only had the accounts of others, I would probably still come to the same conclusion, yet even what I am sure I have experienced is still subjective evidence. Even for me.


ArtyCarl;
For myself I use the 'most probably' rule. The premise is Occam's Razor;
"All things being equal the most probably answer is usually the correct one." (He heh... I saw Contact, too, TheDot ;))

Now, if anyone is curious about what "level of quality" I have for consideration as evidence...

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To get passed the "fuzzy dot" part, go to either 1:51, or 2:32 into the film.
Even this one leaves me with reservations:
1. This could well be a Military "knock-off" rather than a foreign object.
2. The idea of a hoax seems improbable here, but not impossible, IMO.

Short of ET landing at the county fair, popping the hatch, and setting up a lemonade stand...

Well, while I applaud enthusiasm, I would have to be say I'm "wanting more".

Fred

Gita
29th May 2010, 16:06
Short of ET landing at the county fair, popping the hatch, and setting up a lemonade stand...

Well, while I applaud enthusiasm, I would have to be say I'm "wanting more".

Fred

You mean like this Fred!:becky: Be careful what you wish for King Pengy!:laugh:

Watch from 1:23 mins.

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lightblue
29th May 2010, 16:44
gita, you may find this one funnier...in either case, thumbs up for another brave british woman standing her ground...poor ted..l


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=antKzrygQyA&feature=player_embedded

Philbert
29th May 2010, 17:10
You are saying, if i view these videos, 5 times? 10? it will prove to me that this is footage of alien space craft?

Again it is up to the individual to thoroughly get a clear understanding of what is being presented here.
Viewing this half way or only one time will not help in determining whether if it is anything of importance to your research.

I never said "view these videos, 5 times? 10? it will prove that this is footage of alien space craft"
What I am saying is if the individual only glances through the footage and does not take time to do a real study of the footages then the individual person may miss something that could be relivent.

Ultimately it will be the individuals decision if the material has any value. Assumptions will cloud the individuals thoughts and understandings.

But if the individual is sincere in there study they will take the time to review the video more than one time before coming to a conclusion. Many good researchers will not even make a decision either way until they have more knowledge of other facts relevant to the case and point.

I know for myself that when looking at material such as this I do not hastily decide or make a conviction in my mind until I have thoroughly studied and cross reference with other ideas, this may take weeks or months ore years to be able to come to a clear an concise understanding of anything.

Celine
29th May 2010, 17:19
None of this materiel seems new...

*shrug* whatever

Gita
29th May 2010, 17:44
Thanks Blue. I've seen it before on RichPlanet.Net. It sounds like the GFL. :laugh:

Jake
29th May 2010, 18:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWkGTJEK0Mc&NR=1

Fun to watch. Looks real to me. At least as real as the "ONE SMALL STEP FOR MAN" footage.

Philbert
30th May 2010, 01:22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlLN_Jcg1pc&feature=related

Samarkis
30th May 2010, 01:32
Although it's hard to describe the sitings as intelligent....it does show anomolies that appear & disappear............I do believe they are more than dust blips...I have seen other nasa footage that showed orbs moving around the surface of the moon..........before they were "washed" away.........

I do believe that if the camera had been a digital one like nowadays we may have had better evidence.......But that doesn't mean they weren't there.......IMHO.....

Philbert
5th June 2010, 11:36
This footage below shows not only fast moving objects that could not be detected with the human eye until the footage was slowed down 500% but it shows structures and buildings all caught on the Apollo footage.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMmsnMj8ONI

ktlight
16th July 2011, 10:27
If I accomplished what they are claiming I'd be grinning from ear to ear and would be more than happy to share the entire experience to the world.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI_ZehPOMwI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI_ZehPOMwI&feature=player_embedded

Mike Gorman
16th July 2011, 10:43
They all three look very uncomfortable, and as if they'd rather be elsewhere-that is for sure.
What is the cause of this could be more in the tedious nature of relating experience, and of normally
introverted men forced to be very public and performance driven. What do you think?

ktlight
16th July 2011, 10:51
They all three look very uncomfortable, and as if they'd rather be elsewhere-that is for sure.
What is the cause of this could be more in the tedious nature of relating experience, and of normally
introverted men forced to be very public and performance driven. What do you think?

In it, you can obviously see the sadness and guilt on the faces of Armstrong, Collins and Aldrin as they speak before reporters. It's undeniable. They are obviously uncomfortable and depressed. Nearly every comment on YouTube below the video noticed the obvious. As one comment said, these astronauts must have been under enormous pressure to go along with the hoax, because after what happened with the Apollo One fire, they knew that the consequences of non-compliance was death. So they had no choice but to go along with the charade.

Wiremu2011
16th July 2011, 11:41
So, where are all the body language and speech analysis expert reports on this rather suspicious and dull presentation given by these guys from the Apollo 11 mission? Even Blind Freddy and Deaf Teddy could tell somethings just quite not right with this. You think they may be hiding something?

the_flyingboy
16th July 2011, 14:42
i'm watching the video as i'm typing this and what i can see is 3 people scared of what to say and they look at each other every time someone bumps in just in case they say something out of the ordinary

Adi
16th July 2011, 15:10
I remember a while back that i came across a video on utube were they had an expert talk about the body language of the astronauts in this video. The conclusion was that they were definitely avoiding talking about stuff, visibly hesitant and very frightened, the way they explained it in the video was pretty fascinating, it was also suspected that the astronauts had been under the influence of something, possibly a drug or what ever was used on them. Not sure if it was on utube that I seen it put it probably made its way there. Ill try dig it up.

Adi

ViralSpiral
16th July 2011, 15:24
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from the speech:

Wilbur Wright once noted that the only bird that cold talk was the parrot, and he didn't fly very well

and


Today we have with us a group of students, among America's best. To you we say we have only completed a beginning. We leave you much that is undone. There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of the truth's protective layers. There are many places to go beyond belief. Those challenges are yours--in many fields, not the least of which is space, because there lies human destiny.

nuff said......

The One
20th July 2011, 12:16
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Kronuise
20th July 2011, 12:29
would love to see more of this program.

mojo
5th May 2012, 02:20
A lot of analysis for such a brief segment but poses an hypothesis many of us feel is correct.
Here is a quote from the author of the video.


I do not think this is an accident or just a coincidence that this specific segment of DAC footage showing several UFOs outside the CSM was archived incorrectly, but rather I believe this was done on purpose by NASA in order to help bury this UFO footage so it could effectively be hidden in plain sight within the public archives.

NASA telling all?
Evidence indicates otherwise...

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edit: In the clip the author LunaCognita stabilizes the video and allows us to see UFO's possibly for the first time in this segment of footage. Great efforts on his part.

Vitalux
5th May 2012, 03:00
I am trying to understand this.


Did the flying saucer fly through the studio where they were faking the photos or did Stanley Kubrick, the director, add that in for special effects?

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTvdeNGPjTCZUP3gmXfwEiUR4RYQ3laue58zQps4e9cjbywmTPF

:confused:

Perhaps that was one of the props from his 2001: A Space Odyssey movie that was hanging about :confused:

http://resource.mmgn.com/Gallery/full/7YLR9Q6Q.jpg

sdv
5th May 2012, 21:29
At first I thought that object was Earth, but the shape is not right (so not Earth).

I admire the people who have the technical abilties to do this kind of analysis. Thanks for finding this Mojo.

Vitalux, the whole world saw astronauts get into rockets and get blasted off into and disappear into space - people saw it with their own eyes as it happened and on TV in real time. Now either everyone was under some mass hypnosis or the astronauts actually did go into space. If this is from NASA archives from the Apollo 11 mission then the object was something real out there in space.

Vitalux
5th May 2012, 23:29
At first I thought that object was Earth, but the shape is not right (so not Earth).

I admire the people who have the technical abilties to do this kind of analysis. Thanks for finding this Mojo.

Vitalux, the whole world saw astronauts get into rockets and get blasted off into and disappear into space - people saw it with their own eyes as it happened and on TV in real time. Now either everyone was under some mass hypnosis or the astronauts actually did go into space. If this is from NASA archives from the Apollo 11 mission then the object was something real out there in space.

My friend I am not saying they did not get in that rocket and lift off.
That part was real.

I am just stating that I do not believe they actually took the journey to the moon.

While the men in the rocket were orbiting around Earth, they just showed pre-recorded videos made on Earth that simulated they were walking around on the MOON.
When it was time they just re-entered Earth's atmosphere and splashed down.

IT is not rocket science, its Hollywood special effects.

Took me awhile when I was a kid before I figured out that Superman was not real either.
After all I see that guy fly on television and would even take little boys for a cruse too!:rolleyes:
Some are just a wee bit slower.

http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/article/685/685428/the-adventures-of-superman-the-complete-second-season-20060202040629114-000.jpg

Kronuise
8th July 2013, 09:05
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/5c/70/5c707850ed335d341e54735c25a2f63b.jpg?itok=ZNsmaK_r

A photo from the online archive of the Apollo 11 mission reveals what appears to be a base on the far side of the moon. The object appears to be on the moon’s surface and is well illuminated. It is symmetrical with a long shaft separated at each end by a small sphere with another in the center. The spheres appear to be living quarters with connecting corridors. The object was recently discovered by an observer and announced today on UFO Sightings Daily (for location of object with magnification click here). The photo, AS11-41-6155, is significant since whistleblowers have claimed that NASA regularly scrubs or destroys photos with any evidence of alien life or artificial structures. The Apollo 11 photo does not appear to have been digitally altered in any way, and may be stunning visual evidence of alien life on the far side of the moon.

Ken Johnston at the Smithsonian
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Here is what the observer who first discovered the photo had to say in an email sent to Scott Waring from UFO Sightings Daily:

"I need to let you know about my discovery of what seems to be some kind of UTO (unknown Terrain Object) or UFO, that appears on one of the pictures from an Apollo mission which I don't remember which one (Apollo 11) it was...I took some screenshots so that you can see the object in very good detail.

To me it looks like some kind of crystal tube with something that appears like an antenna or some kind of special weapon...not sure what it is, but we can figure it out. The first image is the original one which has lots and lots of unknown objects on the surface of the moon! J.M."

The object is well illuminated and symmetrical. It appears to be artificial structure of some kind. Significantly, whistleblowers have come forward to claim that NASA and affiliated government agencies have a policy of destroying or altering photos that reveal artificial structures on the moon or in space. Karl Wolfe, for example, claims that he witnessed NASA, the NSA and the US Air Force cooperating to remove such structures from Apollo and satellite imagery when detected. The Washington Times had this to say of Wolf’s whistleblower testimony:

Karl Wolf, an Air Force sergeant who was assigned to the National Security Agency, said that mysterious structures were discovered on the far side of the moon when the United States was mapping its surface before the 1969 lunar landing. Those photos too were culled out of the public record.

Another whistleblower is Dr Ken Johnston who was a manager of NASA’s Data and Photo Control Department. Johnston claims that he also witnessed moon photos showing artificial structures and was asked to destroy the photos. He refused and was fired by NASA.tlmUfT0q-Jo

If tampering of Apollo and satellite imagery of the moon’s surface is a regular policy implemented by various NASA and other US government agencies as Wolf and Johnston claim, then Apollo image AS11-41-6155 (http://archive.org/details/AS11-41-6155) may have remained unaltered since the object it depicts escaped detection. The photo is very large (40 megabytes) and it takes close scrutiny to discover the anomalous object. In conclusion, Apollo 11 image AS11-41-6155 (http://archive.org/details/AS11-41-6155) may be smoking gun proof of an alien base on the far side of the moon.

© Copyright 2013. Michael E. Salla, Ph.D. Exopolitics.org (http://www.examiner.com/article/apollo-11-photo-reveals-base-on-far-side-of-moon)

watchZEITGEISTnow
8th July 2013, 09:08
ok where exactly on the linked nasa image is the cropped image from caus i no findy!?

*OK now i find, but like all the other smudges/scratches on there I'm calling no - and also a red f;lag if ADGUK has anything to do with these - proven hoaxers...

Atlas
2nd August 2013, 11:51
Can someone tell me if these photos are real ? Thanks.


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northstar
2nd August 2013, 13:45
Can someone tell me if these photos are real ? Thanks.


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no, the photos are not real.
I have worked with Photoshop for years and it is easy to spot photoshopped fakes.

Atlas
2nd August 2013, 13:50
First photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49487266@N07/6996897690

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7212/6996897690_fe07739e06_z.jpg

LahTera
3rd August 2013, 09:30
Doesn't it just SUCK that photos can't be relied on as evidence these days? I actually USE Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro, among other programs, building web sites.

On another note, I know an old special forces guy who claims there IS a base on the moon.

toad
4th August 2013, 05:01
That looks like a satellite.

778 neighbour of some guy
4th August 2013, 08:30
Looks like Sir Richard Branson trying to impress some girl, Virgin Galactic eh?? Sneaky old fart.

LahTera
5th August 2013, 20:34
When I look at the photo, I see what appears to be scratches, and the "base" is not the only one, just the most complicated. I downloaded the photo and opened it with Paint Shop Pro and rotated it to the right so the "ground" was on the bottom. There are similar marks to the right of the "base" location, some of them circles. I did see an interesting "pillar" formation somewhere in the photo.

I have to wonder why some of the photo has what looks like scratches.