Jung Typology Test™

[ktlight]

The test above is as accurate now as it was five years ago. I have a feeling this forum will generate a lot of rare personality types, too much for coincidence. Could be interesting.

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

Heres the 16 personality types in case you just want to read them http://typelogic.com/enfp.html or http://www.personalitypage.com/html/portraits.html

[crosby]

turns out i am an isfj. wow. pretty clever stuff. thanks kt that was fun.
regards, corson

[Arpheus]

INFJ,wow i always thought of myself as an extrovert,i guess i was seriously wrong lol?

[ktlight]

INFJ,wow i always thought of myself as an extrovert,i guess i was seriously wrong lol?

So, 1% of the population has this type, it is the rarest.

[cacklingmuse]

says I'm an INFJ

[MorgaineFallen]

I am an INFP :)

[Arpheus]

Really only one per cent of the population has this type?Wow i am speechless hehethanks for the heads up ktlight

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

INFP for me. A healer by all accounts.


Edit:
LOL...
INFPs are one of the rarest types, accounting for about 1–5% of the population

Edit: 2
ROTFL

Famous INFPs:
Homer
Virgil
Mary, mother of Jesus
St. John, the beloved disciple
St. Luke; physician, disciple, author
William Shakespeare, bard of Avon
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (Evangeline)
A. A. Milne (Winnie the Pooh)
Laura Ingalls Wilder (Little House on the Prairie)
Helen Keller, deaf and blind author
Carl Rogers, reflective psychologist, counselor
Fred Rogers (Mister Rogers' Neighborhood)
Dick Clark (American Bandstand)
Donna Reed, actor (It's a Wonderful Life)
Jacqueline Kennedy Onasis
Neil Diamond, vocalist
Tom Brokaw, news anchor
James Herriot (All Creatures Great and Small)
Annie Dillard (Pilgrim at Tinker Creek)
James Taylor, vocalist
Julia Roberts, actor (Conspiracy Theory, Pretty Woman)
Scott Bakula (Quantum Leap)
Terri Gross (PBS's "Fresh Air")
Amy Tan (author of The Joy-Luck Club, The Kitchen God's Wife)
John F. Kennedy, Jr.
Lisa Kudrow ("Phoebe" of Friends)
Fred Savage ("The Wonder Years")
Fictional INFPs:
Anne (Anne of Green Gables)
Calvin (Calvin and Hobbes)
Deanna Troi (Star Trek - The Next Generation)
Wesley Crusher (Star Trek - The Next Generation)
Doctor Julian Bashir (Star Trek: Deep Space 9)
Bastian (The Neverending Story)
E.T.: the ExtraTerrestrial
Doug Funny, Doug cartoons
Tommy, Rug Rats cartoons
Rocko, Rocko's Modern Life cartoons

[lightseeker]

it looks like I fall in the infj category.
lightseeker.

[Belle]

INFP here...I - 33...N - 38...F - 50...P - 44.

Checked careers and even got that right....I'm a musician.

That was fun. Thanks, ktlight.

[Mare]

Ha ha, I didn't expect this to be accurate at all but it is. I'm a big fan of Jung though and he has me down as an ISFP. Cheers ktlight that was a lot of fun!

[seko]

I am an INFJ.

It actually describes me hahaha, this is great thank you Kt

[thunder24]

infp here

peace

[Arpheus]

hmmm idont think infj's are as rare as people are making they out to be we already have 4 in here lol,its says infj males are the rarest,i will say this tho after having a more in depth look at this stuff i started to realize and understand a lot of things better now it all makes sense to me and i am going to be honest being infj kinda of sucks tho,i understand why i havent been able to find a suitable partner as of yet now heh,this stuff is very interesting tho lots of food for thought for sure!!

[seko]

hmmm idont think infj's are as rare as people are making they out to be we already have 4 in here lol,its says infj males are the rarest,i will say this tho after having a more in depth look at this stuff i started to realize and understand a lot of things better now it all makes sense to me and i am going to be honest being infj kinda of sucks tho,i understand why i havent been able to find a suitable partner as of yet now heh,this stuff is very interesting tho lots of food for thought for sure!!

We probably are the rarest but it really doesn't matter.
I agree with, it sucks being us sometimes, but the more at peace you are with yourself the better.

[Garry Irwin]

ISFP - composer
bang on really :-)

[Flash]

ENFJ, and i am in the right career as well, all along (had multiple careers and all along fine). This test is very widespread in businesses. My results have not changed through time, surprisingly. It also was found not to be as reliable as previously tought in the last research about it.

I am with Oprah, Tony Blair hum....., Ronald Reagan hum....., John Paul II well at least I liked him somewhat, lol

What surprised me is that for E and J the pointing is only 1, i am litterally on the border between E and I, and J and whatever. I presume that if I had more E, I would not be on a forum pressently but rather outside enjoying life with friends.

[GK76]

I appear to be INFJ - I can't say I'm surprised though, my life has taken that kind of path recently (albeit a belated on due to bad career decisions early on). It says Jung himself was an INFJ, very cool. Currently career wise I'm floating about in a daze... unemployed and it's obvious why... I was on the wrong path for such a long time (yes I've been in Denial, no not the river in Egypt). Deep down I always knew I was misplaced as an IT engineer, although helping people was an important factor. I suppose it's the counselling life for me, anyway... thanks for the thread I guess life has it's way of slapping one back on target. Synchronicity - never doubt it.

[PixieDust]

i got ENFP :)

[Teakai]

I got an INFJ score. What would be interesting would be to do a poll and see how many of each type hang about here.

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INFJ,wow i always thought of myself as an extrovert,i guess i was seriously wrong lol?

So, 1% of the population has this type, it is the rarest.

Well - that would explain a lot. :lol:

Like why nobody else is 'getting it' or 'seeing it'.

(By nobody else I mean the people around me - not you guys here. Just thought I should clear that up.)

[StateOfTheHeart]

Where are all the Thinkers at??? Just Thinking about their result (instead of posting)? :lol:

I'm indicated as an ISTJ, or otherwise INTJ... (S = 1%, usually INTJ as on previous tests). I felt the ISTJ (http://www.personalitypage.com/html/ISTJ.html) description was very accurate for me, with INTJ (http://www.personalitypage.com/html/INTJ.html) being very close too.

I = 89%
S = 1%
T = 38%
J = 67%

The Duty Fulfiller/Scientist - Yeah, I think so...

Thanks for the link, klight. A poll might have been cool for this thread...

[Sloppyjoe]

INTJ:

Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging

67% 50% 38% 33%

[westhill]

Well another INFJ here. Maybe we are the ones who most likely gravitate to taking this test.

[W.C.]

INTP, the Architect.

INTPs are known for their quest for logical purity, which motivates them to examine universal truths and principles. They are constantly asking themselves and others the questions 'Why?' and 'Why not?' Clear and quick thinkers, they are able to focus with great intensity on their interests. They appreciate elegance and efficiency in thought processes and require them, even more so, in their own communications. They may be seen as unwilling to accept what everyone else regards as truth. While often low key in outward appearance and approach, the INTP is 'hard as nails' when challenging a truth. INTPs do not like to deal with the obvious. They are at their best in building conceptual models and developing unusual and complex ideas.

INTPs exhibit the greatest precision in thought and language of all the types; they tend to see distinctions and inconsistencies in thought and language instantaneously. The one word which captures the unique style of INTPs is architect-the architect of ideas and systems as well as the architect of edifices. This type is found in only 1 percent of the population and therefore is not encountered as frequently as some of the other types.

INTPs detect contradictions in statements no matter how distant in space or time the contradictory statements were produced. The intellectual scanning of INTPs has a principled quality; that is, INTPs search for whatever is relevant and pertinent to the issue at hand. Consequently, INTPs can concentrate better than any other type.

Authority derived from office, position, or wide acceptance does not impress INTPs. Only statements that are logical and coherent carry weight. External authority per se is irrelevant. INTPs abhor redundancy and incoherence. Possessing a desire to understand the universe, an INTP is constantly looking for natural law. Curiosity concerning these keys to the universe is a driving force in this type.

For INTPs, the world exists primarily to be understood. Reality is trivial, a mere arena for proving ideas. It is essential that the universe is understood and that whatever is stated about the universe is stated correctly, with coherence and without redundancy. This is the INTPs final purpose. It matters not whether others understand or accept his or her truths.

[Teakai]

Well another INFJ here. Maybe we are the ones who most likely gravitate to taking this test.

Maybe it means most of the 1% of the INFJ's have gravitated to project avalon?

Normally - I'm not a quiz taking person. This just seemd like a good thing to do at the time. :)

[Arpheus]

Time to put that poll up heheh!

[Mike Gorman]

I am another INFJ, seems this place attracts us ... "rare types" interesting

[Teakai]

Can any of the INFJ's be arsed making up a poll?

I couldn't.

Going to make a coffee instead.

[ulli]

Four years ago I was INTP, the architect.

Now I have become INTJ...looks like I'm regressing.

But it feels to me that I'm getting closer to changing the T for an F...


Hubby is an ESFJ....

[W.C.]

Four years ago I was INTP, the architect.

Now I have become INTJ...looks like I'm regressing.

But it feels to me that I'm getting closer to changing the T for an F...

I think I switch between the P and J depending on the occasion. I used to test as J quite a bit around four or five years ago, then it became INTP which resonated a lot deeper. I wouldn't call it regressing, each type has it's strengths, which other types hold, but which lie dormant until the person of any said type develops enough to better control the dormant/underdeveloped qualities.

The last bit you mention is interesting, and I tend to agree the same is occurring with me. I believe it correlates with the development of other traits; we've developed the 'T' enough perhaps, and now we seek to use the 'T' in our search to put it all together and push it further, which involves flushing out the 'F' and perhaps allowing the 'T' to fall into a more dormant position while doing that, if not just learning both.

[ulli]

Four years ago I was INTP, the architect.

Now I have become INTJ...looks like I'm regressing.

But it feels to me that I'm getting closer to changing the T for an F...

I think I switch between the P and J depending on the occasion. I used to test as J quite a bit around four or five years ago, then it became INTP which resonated a lot deeper. I wouldn't call it regressing, each type has it's strengths, which other types hold, but which lie dormant until the person of any said type develops enough to better control the dormant/underdeveloped qualities.

The last bit you mention is interesting, and I tend to agree the same is occurring with me. I believe it correlates with the development of other traits; we've developed the 'T' enough perhaps, and now we seek to use the 'T' in our search to put it all together and push it further, which involves flushing out the 'F' and perhaps allowing the 'T' to fall into a more dormant position while doing that, if not just learning both.

I suspect that it could have to do with balancing brain hemispheres. I was reading another thread earlier where people were sharing how their spelling was getting worse....and I was thinking then how it could be a symptom of the left brain folks, myself included, were shifting over a bit to rightbrain activities.

I understand when the two hemisheres are in perfect balance true empowered states kick in, and we reach wholeness and enlightenment.

[phimonic]

INFP it says

[Healthy Skeptic]

15 Years ago I was a ENTJ!! - I was a Computer Systems/Programming Manager
Now I am a INFJ - That's more like it!!
I feel so much more at peace with myself now than the "'crazy' working 80-100 per week - for what?" (Money for the TPTB of course....)

[Healthy Skeptic]

By 80-100 I meant HOURS PER WEEK and 'On Call' 24/7!

[Sierra]

Imma INFJ ... 1%???

Wow ... lol! No wonder I could never merge with the herd!

[astrid]

I haven't done this for a while, and yes the results can change......
But i'm an INFP, still.
And even more extreme on the introversion side of the fence than last time i checked.

[sandy]

INFJ,wow i always thought of myself as an extrovert,i guess i was seriously wrong lol?

So, 1% of the population has this type, it is the rarest.

Thanks for that tidbit of info ktlight.

This is my personality type too Arpheus only I have know it for many years, knew it was rare but not that rare 1%. Wow just adds to my rational for feeling and being different than most others throughout my life:) Good thing I like who I am and what I'm all about, strengths and weaknesses alike!!

[Teakai]

INFJ,wow i always thought of myself as an extrovert,i guess i was seriously wrong lol?

So, 1% of the population has this type, it is the rarest.

Thanks for that tidbit of info ktlight.

This is my personality type too Arpheus only I have know it for many years, knew it was rare but not that rare 1%. Wow just adds to my rational for feeling and being different than most others throughout my life:) Good thing I like who I am and what I'm all about, strengths and weaknesses alike!!

It's not that rare here, Sandy - so far, of those who have taken part and replied, it seems to be the majority minority :)

[Spacyman]

i'm INFJ... Interesting stuff! Thanks for sharing ktlight

[daddy fishwick]

ENTJ for me,
Fieldmarshal apparently!

[Sierra]

By 80-100 I meant HOURS PER WEEK and 'On Call' 24/7!

Dude. I hear you.

Sierra, ex-operator, ex-system manager, ex-programmer, ex-database programmer, vb/sql/ms access w/ sqlserver/oracle backends, ex-server admin/support ex-business analyst, ex-Peoplesoft programmer, ex-vertical apps support, sat in same seat through original NWO corporate industry company and company's subsequent outsourcing of IT to first data management company and merge/sale/split with second, third, and fourth, transferred all knowledge to India before switching to another industry, then escaped retired on ero after being told this slave was to spend five years learning to support and manage spaghetti garbage code of a major nwo moneymaking people killing industry that you would not believe in its complex, primitive, stupid mindless idiotic oh never mind and completely non-transferable skills, totally classic nwo corporate IT industry ride dude, sat for four years, cried every day for a long while, sat with McKnao, read everything I ever wanted to read that I could get my hands on about Avalon subjects, sat with McKnao, found Camelot, sat with McKnao, found Avalon, sat with McKnao, found people here wrote transcripts of interviews, sat with McKnao, fell in love with the place, sat with McKnao... and joined at the same time the Charles riot started whew what a ride!

Now, I'm completely right brained. I'm so proud of that lol.

Congratulations fellow escapee INFJ :wave:

Sierra (See McKnao below, he saved my life)

[Sierra]

I suspect that it could have to do with balancing brain hemispheres. I was reading another thread earlier where people were sharing how their spelling was getting worse....and I was thinking then how it could be a symptom of the left brain folks, myself included, were shifting over a bit to rightbrain activities.


omg! lol! My spelling has become disastrous lately and I thought it was senility...

[Healthy Skeptic]

For people wanting to know the different personality types :
http://www.personalvaluation.com/16types.shtml

[Sierra]

It's not that rare here, Sandy - so far, of those who have taken part and replied, it seems to be the majority minority :)

Wooooo Hoooooo!

Avalon rocks. :rockon:

[NeweDat]

INTJ here, which was a little surprising. But after fully reading the description it sounds mostly accurate.

[Healthy Skeptic]

By 80-100 I meant HOURS PER WEEK and 'On Call' 24/7!

Dude. I hear you.

Sierra, ex-operator, ex-system manager, ex-programmer, ex-database programmer, vb/sql/ms access w/ sqlserver/oracle backends, ex-server admin/support ex-business analyst, ex-Peoplesoft programmer, ex-vertical apps support, sat in same seat through original NWO corporate industry company and company's subsequent outsourcing of IT to first data management company and merge/sale/split with second, third, and fourth, transferred all knowledge to India before switching to another industry, then escaped retired on ero after being told this slave was to spend five years learning to support and manage spaghetti garbage code of a major nwo moneymaking people killing industry that you would not believe in its complex, primitive, stupid mindless idiotic oh never mind and completely non-transferable skills, totally classic nwo corporate IT industry ride dude, sat for four years, cried every day for a long while, sat with McKnao, read everything I ever wanted to read that I could get my hands on about Avalon subjects, sat with McKnao, found Camelot, sat with McKnao, found Avalon, sat with McKnao, found people here wrote transcripts of interviews, sat with McKnao, fell in love with the place, sat with McKnao... and joined at the same time the Charles riot started whew what a ride!

Now, I'm completely right brained. I'm so proud of that lol.

Congratulations fellow escapee INFJ :wave:

Sierra (See McKnao below, he saved my life)

Funny, isn't it? When you are 'totally involved' in your work you are 'blinkered' and don't see anything else.
You believe that you are 'the only one that sees things as they really are'.
Then suddenly, like I was, you are 'retrenched' and the whole world changes. All the 'hours worked' and perceived 'martyrdom' become the 'illusion' that
it really was. 'Sheeeeet, what a fool I have been!!'. Then there is a long period of 're-adjustment' and a need for seeking the 'real truth'.
To me, all my previous IT work now seems like a 'previous lifetime'. I still remember what happened, but it seems 'surreal'.
Still, the 'skills' I learnt I have put into use in trying to learn about the 'real world'.
Hence my User Name of 'Healthy Skeptic'. My 'IT brain' is still skeptical of things, but I am now willing to listen/see (In a 'Healthy Skeptical' way) to any point of view.

Love to You, 'Fellow Right-Brained Escapee' from the IT Rat Race!!.:target:

[angel in disguise]

I'm wondering about the INFJ percentage... because OF COURSE... I am INFJ as well :eek:

[Teakai]

I'm wondering about the INFJ percentage... because OF COURSE... I am INFJ as well :eek:

Me too, Angel, but we're going to have to wait for an ESTP to show up. They're the 'Doers'.

:)

[161803398]

INTJ -- hehe same type as Hiliary Clinton and JFK. LOL Right on the job also. 2 pc

[angel in disguise]

I'm wondering about the INFJ percentage... because OF COURSE... I am INFJ as well :eek:

Me too, Angel, but we're going to have to wait for an ESTP to show up. They're the 'Doers'.

:)

Do we have to wait?... Can't we just do it ourselves???

[sdafnom]

INTJ also.

Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging

44 75 12 56

Makes sense...

[Teakai]

I'm wondering about the INFJ percentage... because OF COURSE... I am INFJ as well :eek:

Me too, Angel, but we're going to have to wait for an ESTP to show up. They're the 'Doers'.

:)

Do we have to wait?... Can't we just do it ourselves???

Do you want to do it?

[angel in disguise]

Can't we all?... Obviously we have all come together for a reason if we are labelled 1% no?... :)

[Teakai]

Can't we all?... Obviously we have all come together for a reason if we are labelled 1% no?... :)

All make a poll?

I honestly have no idea about the second part - maybe the study is flawed to begin with? Maybe there are way more INFJ's than 1%. Maybe lots of them just weren't interested in doing the survey.

Or maybe INFJ's are just too well adjusted to require the psychoanalysis treatment from where Jung ammassed his study results.
(Just to say - I don't actually know how he amassed the information)

But, like I said earlier - I'm not interested enough to go to the effort to put up a poll of 16 archetypes. But I would be interested enough to participate if someone else chose to make the effort.
(I attribute this to being an INFJ - I cannot help it - it is in my nature :) )

[meeradas]

I N F P (omg, disclosure...)

[christian]

I'm not surprised that the vast majority here is located among the Idealists.


i got ENFP :)


Idealist - Champion
Fiercely individualistic, Champions strive toward a kind of personal authenticity. Champions are keen and probing observers, have outstanding intuitive powers and can tell what is going on inside of others, reading hidden emotions and giving special significance to words or actions. Champions often speak (or write) in the hope of revealing some truth about human experience, or of motivating others with their powerful convictions. Champions are positive, exuberant people, and often their confidence in the goodness of life and of human nature makes good things happen. Champions tend to be extra sensitive and alert, always ready for emergencies, always on the lookout for what's possible.

Now that is the kind of ego-stroking that makes my Sunday morning. This deserves a celebration, I'm gonna put my Superman cloak on and dance the mighty wonderful dance as soon as I put my blanket aside.

[red_rose]

INFP - healer/musician :)

wish I wasn't so introverted though, gives me panic attacks. :(

[161803398]

Problem is all the doers are out doing things.:rolleyes:

[Morgaine]

i got ENFP :)

At last!!! Someone who got the same as me! lol......:-)

[Healthy Skeptic]

What is going on in this thread?
Typical TPTB attitude of comparing everyone to everyone else! (Mine is BIGGER than Yours..nyhaa..nyhaa..nyhaa).
I am 'ONLY ABCD', whilst 'most of you are VVCD!'
Yes, this is interesting but aren't we are all here to contribute to the betterment of the Human Cause?
It sounds like we are comparing 'White' to 'Black' to 'Yellow' or 'Green with Yellow Polka Dots'.
OK. It is interesting to know which 'Types' are attracted to this forum but, Does it matter in the long run?????
Come on people. Surely this is not another case of 'Divide and Conquer?'.

[Teakai]

What is going on in this thread?
Typical TPTB attitude of comparing everyone to everyone else! (Mine is BIGGER than Yours..nyhaa..nyhaa..nyhaa).
I am 'ONLY ABCD', whilst 'most of you are VVCD!'
Yes, this is interesting but aren't we are all here to contribute to the betterment of the Human Cause?
It sounds like we are comparing 'White' to 'Black' to 'Yellow' or 'Green with Yellow Polka Dots'.
OK. It is interesting to know which 'Types' are attracted to this forum but, Does it matter in the long run?????
Come on people. Surely this is not another case of 'Divide and Conquer?'.



You got that from this thread?

In the interest of study can you point out specifically what gave you the idea that it was getting competitive - because I, for one missed it completely?
Chiquetet might be a bit braggy - but I think he was joking and it was all in good fun.
(could be wrong, though :) )

[christian]

I was not a bit braggy, I was boasting! I really had fun with it and it really made my morning, though. This thread is not really serious, is it? Maybe helps some people to get more comfortable with what they do, because this test actually appreciates every type of personality, it clearly says that everyone has a unique value and something to contribute, it's like: Is a liver better than a heart? It's like we are all beautiful flowers looking at our navels (hence I say not a very serious thread) and saying, "Oh, I just figured I'm a rose / tulip / whatever."

I don't know who said that, but it bears repeating "I'm not the idiot who tries not to be himself". If you are truly yourself, that's the very best you can be. Compare yourself to others if you like, not to feel inadequate but to appreciate the myriads of ways of expression and manifestation.

[jesterking]

ENFP-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04854XqcfCY

[Healthy Skeptic]

What is going on in this thread?
Typical TPTB attitude of comparing everyone to everyone else! (Mine is BIGGER than Yours..nyhaa..nyhaa..nyhaa).
I am 'ONLY ABCD', whilst 'most of you are VVCD!'
Yes, this is interesting but aren't we are all here to contribute to the betterment of the Human Cause?
It sounds like we are comparing 'White' to 'Black' to 'Yellow' or 'Green with Yellow Polka Dots'.
OK. It is interesting to know which 'Types' are attracted to this forum but, Does it matter in the long run?????
Come on people. Surely this is not another case of 'Divide and Conquer?'.



You got that from this thread?

In the interest of study can you point out specifically what gave you the idea that it was getting competitive - because I, for one missed it completely?
Chiquetet might be a bit braggy - but I think he was joking and it was all in good fun.
(could be wrong, though :) )

OK. 'Eat Humble Pie' time for me.
I am sorry if I came across as 'aggressive'.
It was probably due to my 'Silly Perceptions'.
I just noticed that there were a lot of INFJ types like myself.
This was my 'Silly Perception' but I sensed that anyone else that wasn't this 'type' seemed to 'sheepishly' post their 'type' as if it was an embarassing thing.
OK. 'Stupid me'. This is not the first time I have probably misinterpreted things.
I didn't mean to offend anyone.

[Teakai]

I was not a bit braggy, I was boasting! I really had fun with it and it really made my morning, though. This thread is not really serious, is it? Maybe helps some people to get more comfortable with what they do, because this test actually appreciates every type of personality, it clearly says that everyone has a unique value and something to contribute, it's like: Is a liver better than a heart? It's like we are all beautiful flowers looking at our navels (hence I say not a very serious thread) and saying, "Oh, I just figured I'm a rose / tulip / whatever."

I don't know who said that, but it bears repeating "I'm not the idiot who tries not to be himself". If you are truly yourself, that's the very best you can be. Compare yourself to others if you like, not to feel inadequate but to appreciate the myriads of ways of expression and manifestation.

:lol: Yes, you are right and I'm terribly sorry, Chiquetet. You weren't a bit braggy at all. And you are fully justified in boasting about how special you and the other 98% of the not at all rare and special ENFP's are.

(Note: of course I am joking. You are all special - and the more seriously one takes this personality test, the more 'special' they surely are.)
;)

[christian]

I suggest everyone should dance and celebrate for the fact, that they are beautiful and unique sparks of the Godhead.

[Teakai]

OK. 'Eat Humble Pie' time for me.
I am sorry if I came across as 'aggressive'.
It was probably due to my 'Silly Perceptions'.
I just noticed that there were a lot of INFJ types like myself.
This was my 'Silly Perception' but I sensed that anyone else that wasn't this 'type' seemed to 'sheepishly' post their 'type' as if it was an embarassing thing.
OK. 'Stupid me'. This is not the first time I have probably misinterpreted things.
I didn't mean to offend anyone.


Indeed. INFJ's are quite obviously the winners here. Majority rules and all that. Don't tell chiquetet, though - it'll likely break his heart.
You can afford to eat that humble pie.
:)

[Billy]

INFJ here also

[fractal being]

INFP here.

Idealist-Healer. Well i never doubted that I'm an idealist, but i never thought that i could be a healer. Interesting though, since I've just recently came to realize there is some healing potential in me.

I tried to set up the poll, but apparently I can't do that as a provisional member. Or do I?
Nevertheless, i get a "you are not allowed to do this" message which kind of pisses me of, considering my intuitive rejection of any sort of authority :)
If any body else can bother with this, here is the full list of archetypes:
[ENFP] [INFP] [ENFJ] [INFJ] [ESTJ] [ISTJ] [ESFJ] [ISFJ]
[ENTP] [INTP] [ENTJ] [INTJ] [ESTP] [ISTP] [ESFP] [ISFP]

[Healthy Skeptic]

OK. 'Eat Humble Pie' time for me.
I am sorry if I came across as 'aggressive'.
It was probably due to my 'Silly Perceptions'.
I just noticed that there were a lot of INFJ types like myself.
This was my 'Silly Perception' but I sensed that anyone else that wasn't this 'type' seemed to 'sheepishly' post their 'type' as if it was an embarassing thing.
OK. 'Stupid me'. This is not the first time I have probably misinterpreted things.
I didn't mean to offend anyone.


Indeed. INFJ's are quite obviously the winners here. Majority rules and all that. Don't tell chiquetet, though - it'll likely break his heart.
You can afford to eat that humble pie.
:)

Be extremely careful about what you are saying.
You are agreeing with what I said in my Post #60 that got you 'in a twist'!!

[pickle]

Four years ago I was INTP, the architect.

Now I have become INTJ...looks like I'm regressing.

But it feels to me that I'm getting closer to changing the T for an F...


Hubby is an ESFJ....

INFP

Hi Ulli, wanted to reply to your post because your Astro reading that you did for me has a striking similarity to my result for this! [Edit: using the Kiersey description]

Peace

Pickle

[Teakai]

Be extremely careful about what you are saying.
You are agreeing with what I said in my Post #60 that got you 'in a twist'!!

:lol: I know!!! It was meant tongue in cheek - I should have probably used an icon, only
I had already recently established that I think anyone who takes this stuff too seriously might be a little bit overly special/precious for their own good. (post #65)

Let's see - am I to consider myself special because I am a majority member of a minority group?

Or am I special because I am the minority in a perceived majority group?

The letters/typing/labelling change nothing. They add nothing - they detract nothing. We are all still what we were before we took the test.

Edit to add: And I didn't for a minute get in a twist by what you wrote. Perceptions are really crazy things I tell ya.

In the interests of study, what was it that made you think I was upset by your post?

[Teakai]

INFP here.

Idealist-Healer. Well i never doubted that I'm an idealist, but i never thought that i could be a healer. Interesting though, since I've just recently came to realize there is some healing potential in me.

I tried to set up the poll, but apparently I can't do that as a provisional member. Or do I?
Nevertheless, i get a "you are not allowed to do this" message which kind of pisses me of, considering my intuitive rejection of any sort of authority :)
If any body else can bother with this, here is the full list of archetypes:
[ENFP] [INFP] [ENFJ] [INFJ] [ESTJ] [ISTJ] [ESFJ] [ISFJ]
[ENTP] [INTP] [ENTJ] [INTJ] [ESTP] [ISTP] [ESFP] [ISFP]

I think we're all waiting for an ESTP to come on the scene, Fractal. They're the doers.
I don't think any of them are members here - making them the Avalonian minority (a very select group ;) (tongue in cheek) )

[ktlight]

INFP here.

Idealist-Healer. Well i never doubted that I'm an idealist, but i never thought that i could be a healer. Interesting though, since I've just recently came to realize there is some healing potential in me.

I tried to set up the poll, but apparently I can't do that as a provisional member. Or do I?
Nevertheless, i get a "you are not allowed to do this" message which kind of pisses me of, considering my intuitive rejection of any sort of authority :)
If any body else can bother with this, here is the full list of archetypes:
[ENFP] [INFP] [ENFJ] [INFJ] [ESTJ] [ISTJ] [ESFJ] [ISFJ]
[ENTP] [INTP] [ENTJ] [INTJ] [ESTP] [ISTP] [ESFP] [ISFP]

I think we're all waiting for an ESTP to come on the scene, Fractal. They're the doers.
I don't think any of them are members here - making them the Avalonian minority (a very select group ;) (tongue in cheek) )

A poll has to be set up at the time of posting. I have requested mods to set one up, if it is possible. There should be a way, though.

[Healthy Skeptic]

Be extremely careful about what you are saying.
You are agreeing with what I said in my original Post!!

:lol: I know!!! It was meant tongue in cheek - I should have probably used an icon, only
I had already recently established that I think anyone who takes this stuff too seriously might be a little bit overly special/precious for their own good. (post #65)

Let's see - am I to consider myself special because I am a majority member of a minority group?

Or am I special because I am the minority in a perceived majority group?

The letters/typing/labelling change nothing. They add nothing - they detract nothing. We are all still what we were before we took the test.

True. But just because you and I are INFJ's we must respect that others do not see our point of view.
Yes, it seems hard to believe but these test are very important to other people.
The tests can be an important sense of 'guidance' or 'inspiration' to other people.
We may not 'understand it' but we have to encourage other people to try and achieve their potential.
Ok. Sounds 'sooky', but, we have to remember not to 'judge' other people by our own 'perceived standards'.
Everyone on this Earth deserves the best chance they can get.
People aren't 'Stupid'. We just make 'Stupid Decisions' (Myself included).
We can only know and act on what we are 'taught'. (Which is F/A at school).
None of us are 'Special'. Soon as we think that then we are 'self-delusional'.
We are all 'Spiritual Beings' experiencing a 'Human Experience'.
Sorry if I sound 'Patronising'.

[noprophet]

ENFP

Eerily accurate.

[Teakai]

A poll has to be set up at the time of posting. I have requested mods to set one up, if it is possible. There should be a way, though.

Are you an ESTP, Kt? :suspicious:

[Mad Hatter]

Had to remind myself not to carry out the usual trick when tested by corporations of asking which type they would prefer I end up in and thus answering accordingly so on the basis of just opening the page and going for it... INTJ

Description - Mastermind (yep plans A thru Z100)
Career - Computers (yep another 24/7/365 slave)
Similar folk - Stephen Hawking, Andrew Grove, Marie Curie, Guy Kawasaki, Igor Sikorsky I can relate too....but Hillary Clinton WTF!!!

I'm going to get the other half to do it and maybe work out why she's stayed with me for 20 odd years :p

Thanx kt for a good bit of fun!!

[Floor]

Again INFJ

[Teakai]

True. But just because you and I are INFJ's we must respect that others do not see our point of view.
Yes, it seems hard to believe but these test are very important to other people.
The tests can be an important sense of 'guidance' or 'inspiration' to other people.
We may not 'understand it' but we have to encourage other people to try and achieve their potential.
Ok. Sounds 'sooky', but, we have to remember not to 'judge' other people by our own 'perceived standards'.
Everyone on this Earth deserves the best chance they can get.
People aren't 'Stupid'. We just make 'Stupid Decisions' (Myself included).
We can only know and act on what we are 'taught'. (Which is F/A at school).
None of us are 'Special'. Soon as we think that then we are 'self-delusional'.
We are all 'Spiritual Beings' experiencing a 'Human Experience'.
Sorry if I sound 'Patronising'.

Of course I respect that we will all likely have a differing viewpoint.

I'm just asking you why you perceive something to be so. Is there something legitimate or is it that your own personal perceptions are responsible for manufacturing something that isn't really there?
Because it's our mistaken perceptions which can make us react where no reaction is required. And I'm not saying this to be patronising either. I just think it's an interesting topic and one that people don't take the time to investigate. They just come from their own perceptions without really examining if they're legitimate or not. And so we do or say seemingly stoopid things simply due to our programing.

As such - how can we possibly aid others to reach their potential, when we have yet to reach or even grasp our own?
And people really ought not rely on any test or psychological evaluation to gain strength. That only boosters ego identification - deliberately encouraging that is only encouraging false security built on nothing at all.

I don't comment because I consider how it may affect another. I comment because I feel inspired to comment - without any other agenda. That's really the only way I can be sure to not do damage, because ego cannot discern and make that judgment.
In the words of Shakepeare, "To thine ownself be true, and it must follow as the night the day, thou shalt not then be false to any man."

You don't sound patronising (at least I don't think you do.) And I don't think I do either - only with you it's hard to tell. OK - that was tongue in cheek. I couldn't resist.
:)

[Teakai]

We can only know and act on what we are 'taught'. (Which is F/A at school).


Just had to say: That is just not true at all.

Who was it said, "there are two educations a man receives. one is given to him - the other he gives himself." ? I can't remember and am disinclined to look it up. But it's definitely true.
:)

[Tigressa]

ENFJ - as always! As I am apparently such a people person, apparently this makes me a 'skillful lover'. Well that was my fave bit, LOL. :p
The funny thing is, I am not quite as sociable with the 'world' as the test would make me seem. Perhaps that is because I my passion is my spiritual connection - now I am very sociable in that sense. :angel:

[bennycog]

infp here... princess diana to hey ! glad to have some connection with her :)

¤=[Post Update]=¤

skillful lover tigressa ? you must be aussie hehe

[Healthy Skeptic]

True. But just because you and I are INFJ's we must respect that others do not see our point of view.
Yes, it seems hard to believe but these test are very important to other people.
The tests can be an important sense of 'guidance' or 'inspiration' to other people.
We may not 'understand it' but we have to encourage other people to try and achieve their potential.
Ok. Sounds 'sooky', but, we have to remember not to 'judge' other people by our own 'perceived standards'.
Everyone on this Earth deserves the best chance they can get.
People aren't 'Stupid'. We just make 'Stupid Decisions' (Myself included).
We can only know and act on what we are 'taught'. (Which is F/A at school).
None of us are 'Special'. Soon as we think that then we are 'self-delusional'.
We are all 'Spiritual Beings' experiencing a 'Human Experience'.
Sorry if I sound 'Patronising'.

Of course I respect that you may have a differing viewpoint. I'm just asking you why you perceive something to be so. Is there something legitimate or is it that your own personal perceptions are responsible for manufacturing something that isn't really there?
Because it's our mistaken perceptions which can make us react where no reaction is required. And I'm not saying this to be patronising either. I just think it's an interesting topic and one that people don't take the time to investigate. They just come from their own perceptions without really examining if they're legitimate or not. And so we do or say seemingly stoopid things.

As such - how can we possibly aid others to reach their potential, when we have yet to reach or even grasp our own?
And people really ought not rely on any test or psychological evaluation to gain strength. That only boosters ego identification - deliberately encouraging that is only encouraging false security built on nothing at all.

I don't comment because I consider how it may affect another. I comment because I feel inspired to comment - without any other agenda. That's really the only way I can be sure to not do damage, because ego cannot discern and make that judgment.
In the words of Shakepeare, "To thine ownself be true, and it must follow as the night the day, thou shalt not then be false to any man."

You don't sound patronising (at least I don't think you do.) And I don't think I do either - only with you it's hard to tell. OK - that was tongue in cheek. I couldn't resist.
:)

I tried to send you PM.
If you didn't get it then send me some please.
I think we are getting 'off topic' for this tread.

[Teakai]

I tried to send you PM.
If you didn't get it then send me some please.
I think we are getting 'off topic' for this tread.

OK - what do you want me to write?



:)

(and how can one try to send a PM and not be able to do it? I, the most technological challenged of all am able to send a PM.)

[ktlight]

A poll has to be set up at the time of posting. I have requested mods to set one up, if it is possible. There should be a way, though.

Are you an ESTP, Kt? :suspicious:

I'm an ENFP.

I could work out the numbers after things stop flowing, and I would post them for all to see, unless someone else would like to do it.

[Teakai]

I'm an ENFP

Aahhhh,yes, right, I see.
Well, I've done some checking and it seems you are acting according to your typography of 'Inspiring' a mod to make up a poll. Good job. Thoroughly acceptable.

I sure hope the mod you inspired is an ESTP.
;)

[Healthy Skeptic]

I tried to send you PM.
If you didn't get it then send me some please.
I think we are getting 'off topic' for this tread.


OK - what do you want me to write?



:)

(and how can one try to send a PM and not be able to do it? I, the most technological challenged of all am able to send a PM.)

'm only a mere male with 30 years experience with Computers. Do you think I know anything?
It will have to wait until later tomorrow. I have to get up at 5:00AM so I need to go to sleep now.

[Teakai]

'm only a mere male with 30 years experience with Computers. Do you think I know anything?
It will have to wait until later tomorrow. I have to get up at 5:00AM so I need to go to sleep now.

The mystery deepens. Perhaps there is something wrong with the PM button?

:)
Good night.

[joamarks]

funny tests

Your Type is
INFP
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
11 62 75 22

[jjl]

hmmm idont think infj's are as rare as people are making they out to be we already have 4 in here lol,its says infj males are the rarest,i will say this tho after having a more in depth look at this stuff i started to realize and understand a lot of things better now it all makes sense to me and i am going to be honest being infj kinda of sucks tho,i understand why i havent been able to find a suitable partner as of yet now heh,this stuff is very interesting tho lots of food for thought for sure!!

I am also INFJ. Either this site draws them of I have to agree with Arpheus, we can't be that rare.

[Midnight Rambler]

I'm an ENFP and it all the results fit. Great thread! Thank you!

[Teakai]

I tried to send you PM.
If you didn't get it then send me some please.
I think we are getting 'off topic' for this tread.

Back again - and I think I ought to clarify something.

When I say that I don't think people ought to take these tests too seriously I'm not saying that I think these tests give an incorrect account, but seriously in that people consider that one thing is better than another thing.

[FrankoL]

OMG I am ESTJ!!! Same as George W. Bush. I just couldn't believe and I repeated the test...again ESTJ. I have strong doubts about the scoring....

[motherlove]

Interesting, INFJ for what it is worth. Best Wishes

[PixieDust]

where did it say that INFJ was one percent? i looked around and read the description but i must have missed it. does it have the percentages of the other personality types?

EDIT

if it was done 5 years ago have they updated the percentages recently? Im not saying its not accurate but maybe the shift thats happening have changed people to INFJs so thats why so many are appearing here and more and more are becoming INFJs and its no longer 1% of the population. maybe? just my speculation.

[Limor Wolf]

Good Post.I will copy my results from the "Introverted Personalities and the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator" (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12343-Introverted-Personalities-and-the-Myers-Briggs-Type-Indicator) Thread,this is what I wrote there about two weeks ago:

"What an interesting subject !I think it worth to bring it back alive for the sake of all the introverts between us (just for the record,I think extraverts desreve the same kind of thread!).

I have taken the meyers-Brigg / jung test yesterday and reaffirmed to myself that my personality (would love to be able to submit some new requests for the next time...) very much match the clasic INFJ.I also listned to some other INFJ's on you tube,and found bits and pieces of myself in each and every one of them.our introvertness dictates our life,it is felt like a limit sometimes but it has some well of good in it - a deep inner world that can easily compare with that of the outer one (as Bill nicknamed it in this thread - our privet 'universe') and the gift of intuition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZPtLNkCCxI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Cnxu-r-D5g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd9zIHZYwis&feature=related

If you haven't already done the test,it is much recommended.not that you dont know yourself,oh no,you do,we are here on Avalon,the home and the friendly environment for questioning and aware people,surely we are aware about ourselves..but its just feel utterly nice to know that there are others like us.

The next questionnaire : what type of ET are you? can someone start to work on this one... "


P.S

Apparently Bill used to run seminars on the Mayers-Brigg test personalities.
If you are curious to know what Bill's type is go and search for it on the other thread (link above) it will be there :)

[DarMar]

im XXXX and proud of it!

and will NEVER be one of the "others" classification. And even if i read personalities to see what they blabbering about .. never took quiz ;)
I'd even go that far and suggest to as many ppl as possible ... do not describe yourself in ways like this, this is not here to help "you" understand..

Thank You

[RMorgan]

INFJ here as well! ;)

[Arpheus]

where did it say that INFJ was one percent? i looked around and read the description but i must have missed it. does it have the percentages of the other personality types?

EDIT

if it was done 5 years ago have they updated the percentages recently? Im not saying its not accurate but maybe the shift thats happening have changed people to INFJs so thats why so many are appearing here and more and more are becoming INFJs and its no longer 1% of the population. maybe? just my speculation.

Do a google search and you will see that supposedly INFJ is the rarest if your male its even more rare, supposedly only one per cent of the population is INFJ,maybe we get drawn to places like avalon who knows,but we got lots of them here for sure heh.

[I_Am]

I almost always score ENFP...this time as well.
Guess I'm pretty comfortable with that.

Thx for the link.

[DarMar]

...maybe we get drawn to places like avalon who knows,but we got lots of them here for sure heh.

this is 100% correct.
there is a lot more personalities than 16, rather bilions of them or more like endless.
this 16 are only basic ones that are lets say enough to catalogize your interests.
those given questions are nothing else than things you learned on this planet and it has nothing with anyone's personality it has with Your choosing from given behaviours. ( programs )

You noticed one big thing tho. That here on this forums are driven specific kind of human beigns.
You know that google is indexing / catalogizing service.
prolly till now you know that is not accidental and specific types are lead to specific places over the net or world.
Even commercials today are targeted towards specific behaviours and desires in person.

so lets do da math \o/
we have:
catalog / index engine, we have quiz, we have defined types and defined places, all nicely marked, also we have answer for everything and its working.

Does that blink anything?
or like some would say .. does this vibrate :)

[Arpheus]

Or more like does this resonate?Nicely put my friend!

[Flash]

Where are the extroverts, the forum is filled with introverts.

May be they are out running their errands with peoples around, not on forums.

this nakes forum life very biaised in terms of opinions, for opinion polls, imho.

Where are the extroverts? (I pointed 1 only for extrovert, I am on the fence intro/extro, sames with J and P, I am on the fence as well.)

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Okay, here's what I think we are seeing happen here. To gain membership on Avalon, we are screened and have to express some of our beliefs, so it's possible Avalon is filtering in that 1% of the population and other similar types. It is not that it's not rare since most of us are displaying it. I'd say, it's still rare, it's that we are attracting those rare types here. It was fun taking it. Thanks Klight!

My score came up the same as most of you. This shouldn't really be such a big surprise since most of us share the same goals and desires of our hearts to create a far better world. It's just that there are really a lot of the same types here, that part is amazing. It's the gathering of Eagles and Condors we've looked for... Much love! xoxoxox

[Sierra]

I'm an ENFP

Aahhhh,yes, right, I see.
Well, I've done some checking and it seems you are acting according to your typography of 'Inspiring' a mod to make up a poll. Good job. Thoroughly acceptable.

I sure hope the mod you inspired is an ESTP.
;)

lol. This mod is the wrong type to "do" a poll but it is a moot point anyway. We're limited to 10 choices on a poll and this poll would take 16 choices so that means a manual count. (And no I don't do math. at . all. Ugh.)

Sierra :wave:

[Coaxial]

INTJ here.

Dead on when you read the discriptions...

[Sophocles]

INTJ here...

[DeDukshyn]

I am an INTJ but about every 3rd time I take the etst or so it comes out INTP == both accurately describe me, but INTJ moreso.

INTJ: To outsiders, INTJs may appear to project an aura of "definiteness", of self-confidence. This self-confidence, sometimes mistaken for simple arrogance by the less decisive, is actually of a very specific rather than a general nature; its source lies in the specialized knowledge systems that most INTJs start building at an early age. When it comes to their own areas of expertise -- and INTJs can have several -- they will be able to tell you almost immediately whether or not they can help you, and if so, how. INTJs know what they know, and perhaps still more importantly, they know what they don't know.

[DeDukshyn]

One of the largest collections of INTJs I've ever seen ... ;)

[ulli]

Where are the extroverts, the forum is filled with introverts.

May be they are out running their errands with peoples around, not on forums.

this nakes forum life very biaised in terms of opinions, for opinion polls, imho.

Where are the extroverts? (I pointed 1 only for extrovert, I am on the fence intro/extro, sames with J and P, I am on the fence as well.)

The extroverts are doing errands and bringing us drinks so we can stay glued to our laptops.

My E has no objection to me being an I...
he loves to get briefed occasionally about what's going on at Avalon,
but would never bother to get involved with an internet forum like I have done.

[hexenomega]

hmmm,
not a massive fan of shrinks of any type, we are all unique, all of us, but INTJ, now,(insert evil laugh), my people need me, and i need more footstools(another laugh, this time, cackling and more sinister), good post, thanks to the poster.
zoon ze hole vold vill now my name,
hexen

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Too funny Ulli! We are not just coming out of the closet, we are the closet! Another Sierra Mist over here, please! So, are we having fun yet? xoxoxox

[CyRus]

INTJ/INTP, I am not surprised there are a lot of "F"'s in this forum though. That is where all the "it resonates" factors in methinks... Personally though, I strongly doubt any sort of psychometric testing, whether they are IQ tests or personality tests etc. There are far too many variables to make a judgement one way or another, but perhaps one gets a rather generalized template.

[Snoweagle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td4RHvyAFsM

ENFJ

awesome; here to save the day :dance:

[Sierra]

Trotting over to Darla with a frosty frosty Sierra Mist amid drifting waves of icy fog ...

Sierra lol (couldn't resist)

[161803398]

Quote Originally Posted by Healthy Skeptic View Post
What is going on in this thread?
Typical TPTB attitude of comparing everyone to everyone else! (Mine is BIGGER than Yours..nyhaa..nyhaa..nyhaa).
I am 'ONLY ABCD', whilst 'most of you are VVCD!'
Yes, this is interesting but aren't we are all here to contribute to the betterment of the Human Cause?
It sounds like we are comparing 'White' to 'Black' to 'Yellow' or 'Green with Yellow Polka Dots'.
OK. It is interesting to know which 'Types' are attracted to this forum but, Does it matter in the long run?????
Come on people. Surely this is not another case of 'Divide and Conquer?'.


You got that from this thread?

In the interest of study can you point out specifically what gave you the idea that it was getting competitive - because I, for one missed it completely?
Chiquetet might be a bit braggy - but I think he was joking and it was all in good fun.
(could be wrong, though )

People are more effective being who they are if they have a clear idea what that is. The mind can be very deceptive and people can and do go through their entire lives not realizing there own strengths and weaknesses. There were a couple of comments in that test that pointed out areas of misunderstanding I would have with other people as a result of things Im not inclined to do that would make others feel more comfortable, and even though I already know that, the confirmation is a helpful reminder. I have no doubt the PTB are fully aware of who they are; why should we not be as well. I think people on this forum are probably too intelligent to get into an ego thing about this test..and the test, in itself, doesn't promote egotism; but it does bring our own personalities more clearly into our own consciousness.

[ThePythonicCow]

INTJ :cow:

[Teakai]

OMG I am ESTJ!!! Same as George W. Bush. I just couldn't believe and I repeated the test...again ESTJ. I have strong doubts about the scoring....

:lol:

Frankol - George Bush may have been a completely different person had he had a different upbringing and environment. Rest easy because it's more likely that George is the one living contrary to his nature. Which might account for is addictions?

:)

[G.Deluca]

INFJ here too

[Isthatso]

Another INFJ

;)

[Teakai]

I was just having a think about the extroversion and introversion thang and it may in this case mean that one is more interested in the spiritual or inner (intro) than the material or physical (extra).
Rather than it having the application of shy or confident, or withdrawn or outgoing.

[Aurelius]

It would be interesting to do a poll on this .. I guarantee a pattern will emerge with PA members.

[Carmen]

Yup, me too, INFJ

[Artemesia]

I did this years ago, and repeated it again in 2009 and was the same. Both times I came out ENFP. My mother did this and was ISTJ. Lets just say it made for an interesting childhood, having a total opposite as one's primary initial role model and caregiver.

[PixieDust]

I was just having a think about the extroversion and introversion thang and it may in this case mean that one is more interested in the spiritual or inner (intro) than the material or physical (extra).
Rather than it having the application of shy or confident, or withdrawn or outgoing.

interesting idea. Of course no body can be lumped into a single catagory or type, but to take it down to the basics I dont think being extroverted vs introverted means we are interested in different things (spiritual/physical). In some cases yes but i think its more that we go about different ways of achieving similar things.

Take spirituality for example (this of course being a very raw representation) an intro personality would be more inclined to sit in their home (safe, quiet spot) to meditate and find it within while an extro would be more inclined to go out and find it, whether that be a spiritual walk/journey, astro projection ect or having a conversation.

Every individual is different about how they go about things, being catagorized into a certian personality type doesn't mean there isn't variations. (just thought i'd add that so no one would get offended! )

i love people watching and learning about different types and speculating about human behavior. i find this thread fascinating especially since its dealing with such exotic humans!

[Teakai]

interesting idea. Of course no body can be lumped into a single catagory or type, but to take it down to the basics I dont think being extroverted vs introverted means we are interested in different things (spiritual/physical). In some cases yes but i think its more that we go about different ways of achieving similar things.

Take spirituality for example (this of course being a very raw representation) an intro personality would be more inclined to sit in their home (safe, quiet spot) to meditate and find it within while an extro would be more inclined to go out and find it, whether that be a spiritual walk/journey, astro projection ect or having a conversation.

Every individual is different about how they go about things, being catagorized into a certian personality type doesn't mean there isn't variations. (just thought i'd add that so no one would get offended! )

i love people watching and learning about different types and speculating about human behavior. i find this thread fascinating especially since its dealing with such exotic humans!

Hi Pixie Dust - I do agree with what you're saying.

I was only trying to assess how the designers of the test were building their model.

Only because I, for one aren't either shy or withdrawn - and so that Introspection doesn't apply in that respect.

And as such I was thinking it might be being used as I mentioned above - or it may be used in the broadness of its entire definition.

In the interests of the study of the human psyche - it would be interesting to know how many "Introverts" would not fit the definition of shy.
:)

[Tigressa]

@ Pixiedust I am extrovert (ENFJ) but all my interests require a turning inwards. So like you say, I enjoy getting into groups for meditation, and I am interested in exploring the universe through crystal lay outs, obe's etc. The Multiverse is jam - packed with beings so I never feel alone. Maybe Buddhism is more an introvert's delight as you do more inner style work.

Jung loved astrology as well, maybe people could mention their astro signature (sun, rising and moon)? Personally I would love to see how that correlates with the Myers Brigg findings... I am Leo with Gemini Rising and Scorpy Moon. To me that means extrovert, bored easily and likes going to the depths. This pairs really well my Myer Briggs signature.

[PixieDust]

Teakai-

ahh i see. i was afraid i was misunderstanding what you were saying.

Language has so many different meanings so that would be an interesting thing to determine.

one thing i can tell you is i am a shy extrovert. sounds like a contradiction but i love being around large crowds but I tend to sit on the side and i love being in the spot light but dont put myself in it.

so you have a very good point :)

[PixieDust]

@ Pixiedust I am extrovert (ENFJ) but all my interests require a turning inwards. So like you say, I enjoy getting into groups for meditation, and I am interested in exploring the universe through crystal lay outs, obe's etc. The Multiverse is jam - packed with beings so I never feel alone. Maybe Buddhism is more an introvert's delight as you do more inner style work.

Jung loved astrology as well, maybe people could mention their astro signature (sun, rising and moon)? Personally I would love to see how that correlates with the Myers Brigg findings... I am Leo with Gemini Rising and Scorpy Moon. To me that means extrovert, bored easily and likes going to the depths. This pairs really well my Myer Briggs signature.

I didnt see your post when i made my previous one!!

I think adding astrology in with this would be a great idea! Considering we're talking about personality here...

As previously stated, i got ENFP on the Jung test and Myer Briggs. Im also a leo with cancer rising and virgo moon. Which i guess means im crazy and like to have fun and be with people, but yet im shy about it and only like to do it with people im close with, but i like to understand and the virgo gives me the focus to sit down and research it!

[Niobe]

Add me to the INFJ's. :) Fun stuff, thanks.

[The Truth Is In There]

ISTJ - 100 38 75 44
no surprise here. i guess 100 is the top score.

[Ella]

INFP

I remember doing this maybe 10 years ago..... i think I was the same then.... can't remember though.

Describes me perfectly.

[Tane Mahuta]

I got an INFJ score.

Me too, INFJ

TT

[DeDukshyn]

Any female INTJs here? ... I've only ever met one ...

[ulli]

Any female INTJs here? ... I've only ever met one ...

That would be meee?
I used to be a INTP but somewhere during the last four years shifted to INTJ.
I could always relate to all your posts.

[Herbert]

To know the universe that is you cannot be achieved by a simple test. A test that is geared to the corporate culture. As our consciousness evolves and society changes, these kind of tests become meaningless. It is merely an attempt to simplify for the ruling bureaucracy who do so love to pinhole and standardize. As earth rights itself on its axis it also eliminates astrology's hold.
I'm masking this up as I write, by the way. I am attempting to express the uneasy feeling I have about people's predeliction for taking tests and their strange affinity for actually taking them seriously.
Having said that, I did take the test and found that INTJ by no means describes anything about me. It recommends jobs which I would not even consider. I guess it is the unnaturalness of the recommendations which got me feeling strange about who this test really serves.
I honestly would love to spend a day with each person who has joined Avalon, just to share from the heart and experience the expasiveness of your imagination which is what really makes a creator.

[Heart-2-Heart]

I was once ..maybe twice...eehhh.. called a.... S O A B ...Now I am an.... INFJ ... :)
H2H....

[DeDukshyn]

Any female INTJs here? ... I've only ever met one ...

That would be meee?
I used to be a INTP but somewhere during the last four years shifted to INTJ.
I could always relate to all your posts.

That makes perfect sense that you are one! Now I know two of the female variety! I read somewhere that there may be less than 1/10th of 1% female INTJs - you are rare! I also shift from INTP to INTJ but most common INTJ. Last I took it, the J was a mere 2 percent, otherwise a P ;-). The traditional description of INTJ is me exactly - especially the part about no one should dare try to make a decision for me. I can think faster than the speed of light and by the time someone has thought about and come up with a suggestion for me I've already solved the problem plus 10 more trickledown potential issues, but thanks anyway!. No one is more capable of making a sound decision than an INTJ, and they are excellent advice givers, but sometimes hypocritical - but excellent advisors nonetheless.

[DeDukshyn]

I was once ..maybe twice...eehhh.. called a.... S O A B ...Now I am an.... INFJ ... :)
H2H....

Excellent change in personality types! SOAB has some useful traits too. You never know when you'll have to do something where you must not care what anyone thinks .. ;-)

[ulli]

Any female INTJs here? ... I've only ever met one ...

That would be meee?
I used to be a INTP but somewhere during the last four years shifted to INTJ.
I could always relate to all your posts.
That makes perfect sense that you are one! Now I know two of the female variety! I read somewhere that there may be less than 1/10th of 1% female INTJs - you are rare! I also shift from INTP to INTJ but most common INTJ. Last I took it, the J was a mere 2 percent, otherwise a P ;-). The traditional description of INTJ is me exactly - especially the part about no one should dare try to make a decision for me. I can think faster than the speed of light and by the time someone has thought about and come up with a suggestion for me I've already solved the problem plus 10 more trickledown potential issues, but thanks anyway!. No one is more capable of making a sound decision than an INTJ, and they are excellent advice givers, but sometimes hypocritical - but excellent advisors nonetheless.



I became so good at finding solutions to complex problems that my subconscious manifested problems at an ever advancing rate.
Enough is enough!
But what else can I be??

[DeDukshyn]

To know the universe that is you cannot be achieved by a simple test. A test that is geared to the corporate culture. As our consciousness evolves and society changes, these kind of tests become meaningless. It is merely an attempt to simplify for the ruling bureaucracy who do so love to pinhole and standardize. As earth rights itself on its axis it also eliminates astrology's hold.
I'm masking this up as I write, by the way. I am attempting to express the uneasy feeling I have about people's predeliction for taking tests and their strange affinity for actually taking them seriously.
Having said that, I did take the test and found that INTJ by no means describes anything about me. It recommends jobs which I would not even consider. I guess it is the unnaturalness of the recommendations which got me feeling strange about who this test really serves.
I honestly would love to spend a day with each person who has joined Avalon, just to share from the heart and experience the expasiveness of your imagination which is what really makes a creator.

I'm an INTJ and that is me 100% to a "T". I work in management information systems even. Maybe you should try to take the test a few times spread over time, and see again, if you care enough. At my work we had everyone do it as a bit of a fun thing, but y'know what? afterward everyone was able to communicate with everyone else a little better because we understood each other's reasonings and motives. It actually became a useful tool. Some companies require it for proper employee integration. Also keep in mind this test is about how a person thinks and reasons, the job suggestions are just things that follow those reasonings, not meant to be dead fact - the test never pretends to be that, it is just a tool. Trust me, knowing other INTJs (although by including your own observation I think you may really be something else?) for me instantly let's me know the best mode of communication - and INTJ's can really be communicated with differently than most other types, we think quite differently - in systems and calculated risks/outcomes as opposed to events or emotions. That said it won't work 100% for everyone just like you can take two different IQ tests and score 10 points different on the same day. My 2 cents ;)

[DeDukshyn]

Any female INTJs here? ... I've only ever met one ...

That would be meee?
I used to be a INTP but somewhere during the last four years shifted to INTJ.
I could always relate to all your posts.
That makes perfect sense that you are one! Now I know two of the female variety! I read somewhere that there may be less than 1/10th of 1% female INTJs - you are rare! I also shift from INTP to INTJ but most common INTJ. Last I took it, the J was a mere 2 percent, otherwise a P ;-). The traditional description of INTJ is me exactly - especially the part about no one should dare try to make a decision for me. I can think faster than the speed of light and by the time someone has thought about and come up with a suggestion for me I've already solved the problem plus 10 more trickledown potential issues, but thanks anyway!. No one is more capable of making a sound decision than an INTJ, and they are excellent advice givers, but sometimes hypocritical - but excellent advisors nonetheless.



I became so good at finding solutions to complex problems that my subconscious manifested problems at an ever advancing rate.
Enough is enough!
But what else can I be??

When you are working out a complex problem .. does it just sort of "happen"? -- instantly sometimes even? I found that I am able to do things and solve problems often waaay out of my field of expertise, but when driven by need, I even impress myself sometimes (and I'm not that easily impressed), by looking back and thinking to myself .. "Did I just do that?". I learned a programming language (OpenOffice Basic) once for a project I was doing just so I could write a few macros, and made an MRP system out of Excel - as I was learning Excel, that took consideration to 150 final products and 300 raw materials. The company needed some sort of system as there was nothing, so I learned excel and made it (I had the system already made in my head I just had to learn the excel functions to make it work the way I wanted to). We finally just replaced that system for a $100,000 ERP system. When I tell people this they are like "WTH?" And I say things just come to me when I set my mind to an end result -the details just sort of fill in automatically ... Are your problem solving abilities sort of like that??

EDIT: my story might be more impressive to know I have no completed formal post secondary education, other than a few classes at DeVry for CIS (drop-out).

[ulli]

I solved problems all the time as a knitwear designer. in the far east they even had to make new knitting machines to keep up with copying my designs.
Now that I'm no longer involved in "the world" I stopped challenging myself.
Once you know you are a problem solver they keep coming at you.
I know myself now as a manifestor...

self image is everything.

I started manifesting parking spaces near entrances to buildings...
especially when it rains...
I don't even bother to take an umbrella.

I prefer that than thinking of myself as a trouble maker
the world has enough of those.

[Teakai]

I solved problems all the time as a knitwear designer. in the far east they even had to make new knitting machines to keep up with copying my designs.
Now that I'm no longer involved in "the world" I stopped challenging myself.
Once you know you are a problem solver they keep coming at you.
I know myself now as a manifestor...

self image is everything.

I started manifesting parking spaces near entrances to buildings...
especially when it rains...
I don't even bother to take an umbrella.

I prefer that than thinking of myself as a trouble maker
the world has enough of those.

:lol: I do that, too.

And I love to handknit - . Would like to try and design my own pattern one of these days - only I have to get my head around the mathematics of it all. Mathematics *blech*

Also - I did that too. Dropped out of the world and stopped feeling pressured in regard to all that I 'thought' I ought to be doing. Societal expectations and all that - such a relief.
I remember reading that as some part of the INFJ's typography - only I thought to myself - I used to do that, but not anymore.

[ulli]

that numbers thing...for me no prob.
Like a duck takes to water.
All you do is count...adding and multiplying...
Easy.
I went from handknitting to knitting machines in one month, I just wanted that shortcut to save time.
At that time no one was using knitting machines commercially.
By the time the others finished college this dropout was already selling to Bloomingdale's NY and Saba in Melbourne.

[oceanz]

I'm an INFJ.


http://www.123test.com/INFJ-personality-type/

A popular misconception is that Introverts are shy - this is not necessarily so. They draw their energy from their own thoughts and the time they spend alone.

[Teakai]

I'm an INFJ.


http://www.123test.com/INFJ-personality-type/

A popular misconception is that Introverts are shy - this is not necessarily so. They draw their energy from their own thoughts and the time they spend alone .

Ahh, now that makes more sense to me.
(I missed that part in the reading)

[Teakai]

that numbers thing...for me no prob.
Like a duck takes to water.
All you do is count...adding and multiplying...
Easy.
I went from handknitting to knitting machines in one month, I just wanted that shortcut to save time.
At that time no one was using knitting machines commercially.
By the time the others finished college this dropout was already selling to Bloomingdale's NY and Saba in Melbourne.

For me complex mathematics seems like this big knotted pile of wool (to be knitty about it) and I have to mentally prepare my mind for getting into the unravelling it mode. Knowing I have to calculate stitch guage, sleeve decrease ratios and general measurements - well, it's enough to keep me procrastinating :)

I prefer hand knitting as the end result isn't the entire purpose of knitting for me - I really, really, really enjoy the process. It's one of my best forms of mediation.

BTW- well done on the success of what you have done with your patterns. Can you tell me your designer name? PM me if you prefer to keep it mum. Or don't if you want to be completely private about it - no pressure :)

[Teakai]

When you are working out a complex problem .. does it just sort of "happen"? -- instantly sometimes even? I found that I am able to do things and solve problems often waaay out of my field of expertise, but when driven by need, I even impress myself sometimes (and I'm not that easily impressed), by looking back and thinking to myself .. "Did I just do that?". I learned a programming language (OpenOffice Basic) once for a project I was doing just so I could write a few macros, and made an MRP system out of Excel - as I was learning Excel, that took consideration to 150 final products and 300 raw materials. The company needed some sort of system as there was nothing, so I learned excel and made it (I had the system already made in my head I just had to learn the excel functions to make it work the way I wanted to). We finally just replaced that system for a $100,000 ERP system. When I tell people this they are like "WTH?" And I say things just come to me when I set my mind to an end result -the details just sort of fill in automatically ... Are your problem solving abilities sort of like that??

EDIT: my story might be more impressive to know I have no completed formal post secondary education, other than a few classes at DeVry for CIS (drop-out).

DeDukshyn - you chose a very appropriate tag :)Deduction: a. a systematic method of deriving conclusions that cannot be false when the premises are true, esp one amenable to formalization and study by the science of logic.

Was it a fluke or by design? I'm wondering if it might have been the subconscious at work.

[Odracir Oiravlac]

Thank you for the test, it was fun and accurate in many ways.

[sunnyrap]

I'm one of the highly intuitive types here and I'm feeling wary of revealing too much on an open forum for whatever reason...

[DeDukshyn]

When you are working out a complex problem .. does it just sort of "happen"? -- instantly sometimes even? I found that I am able to do things and solve problems often waaay out of my field of expertise, but when driven by need, I even impress myself sometimes (and I'm not that easily impressed), by looking back and thinking to myself .. "Did I just do that?". I learned a programming language (OpenOffice Basic) once for a project I was doing just so I could write a few macros, and made an MRP system out of Excel - as I was learning Excel, that took consideration to 150 final products and 300 raw materials. The company needed some sort of system as there was nothing, so I learned excel and made it (I had the system already made in my head I just had to learn the excel functions to make it work the way I wanted to). We finally just replaced that system for a $100,000 ERP system. When I tell people this they are like "WTH?" And I say things just come to me when I set my mind to an end result -the details just sort of fill in automatically ... Are your problem solving abilities sort of like that??

EDIT: my story might be more impressive to know I have no completed formal post secondary education, other than a few classes at DeVry for CIS (drop-out).

DeDukshyn - you chose a very appropriate tag :)Deduction: a. a systematic method of deriving conclusions that cannot be false when the premises are true, esp one amenable to formalization and study by the science of logic.

Was it a fluke or by design? I'm wondering if it might have been the subconscious at work.

It was a bit of both ;-) INTJ have great deductive skills. ;) ...EDIT .. ER so by design mostly, but it inuitively rose to the surface.

[ulli]

that numbers thing...for me no prob.
Like a duck takes to water.
All you do is count...adding and multiplying...
Easy.
I went from handknitting to knitting machines in one month, I just wanted that shortcut to save time.
At that time no one was using knitting machines commercially.
By the time the others finished college this dropout was already selling to Bloomingdale's NY and Saba in Melbourne.

For me complex mathematics seems like this big knotted pile of wool (to be knitty about it) and I have to mentally prepare my mind for getting into the unravelling it mode. Knowing I have to calculate stitch guage, sleeve decrease ratios and general measurements - well, it's enough to keep me procrastinating :)

I prefer hand knitting as the end result isn't the entire purpose of knitting for me - I really, really, really enjoy the process. It's one of my best forms of mediation.

BTW- well done on the success of what you have done with your patterns. Can you tell me your designer name? PM me if you prefer to keep it mum. Or don't if you want to be completely private about it - no pressure :)

this sweater is as close as I could find...
http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/m/mRV6V-9Uq1__H-OCJr7gbjw/140.jpg
the only reason that I know it is a copy is because they left the neck area plain..
my stuff would have had some colour accent there as well...
but the copiers had to cut corners to keep it cheap.
Plus I used at least 5 contrast colours,
the copies had a maximum of three...
My system was designed in such a way that no two were ever alike
which is why the rich and famous forked out a lot more money

in those days I was an ENTP...no doubt about it...now an INTJ

[gaiagirl]

Wow, I add me as another INFJ to the list of many here! Thank you for the test, that was fun and informative!

[TargeT]

ENTP guess I'm not one of the kewl INFJ's QQ....


Sorta fits me though, I had trouble honestly answering the questions though (not out of deciet, I litteraly looked at questions and couldn't decide many times which was "me") though I'm a Libra so that works out right?

:lol:

[PixieDust]

I had trouble honestly answering the questions though (not out of deciet, I litteraly looked at questions and couldn't decide many times which was "me") though I'm a Libra so that works out right?

:lol:

i had a problem answering with what id like to do or with what i actually do...being a mom cuts my social life down to near death hahah! so worth it though.

[Teakai]

this sweater is as close as I could find...
http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/m/mRV6V-9Uq1__H-OCJr7gbjw/140.jpg
the only reason that I know it is a copy is because they left the neck area plain..
my stuff would have had some colour accent there as well...
but the copiers had to cut corners to keep it cheap.
Plus I used at least 5 contrast colours,
the copies had a maximum of three...
My system was designed in such a way that no two were ever alike
which is why the rich and famous forked out a lot more money

in those days I was an ENTP...no doubt about it...now an INTJ

Ooh, very nice, Ulli.
That's what I'd like to be able to do - design something interesting and original. If it weren't either one or the other - preferably both - of those things I might as well just follow a pattern.

You've inspired me. I won't put it on my" list of things to do before the end of the world as we know it" because I hate having 'to do's' hanging over my head, but if i do get to designing one and getting it from go to woah - I'll send you a picture. (Don't hold your breath waiting, though)

:)

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ENTP guess I'm not one of the kewl INFJ's QQ....


Sorta fits me though, I had trouble honestly answering the questions though (not out of deciet, I litteraly looked at questions and couldn't decide many times which was "me") though I'm a Libra so that works out right?

:lol:

That made me laugh, Target. I'm not a Libra, but my daughter is.

[Daren]

OK INFJ is this common for truthers, all these wonderful people are just like me. John Bradshaw, Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela, John Calvin, Nicole Kidman cheers for that link very interesting.

[etheric underground]

Thank you KTLIGHT, I am also an I.N.F.J
What would make an interesting statistic is the balance of what type people registered on this forum are??
You may very well find a theme, ie is it the 3% of the population(generally speaking) who are also connected to this forum??
cheers kere

[ViralSpiral]

I'm one of the highly intuitive types here and I'm feeling wary of revealing too much on an open forum for whatever reason...



you do seem to be shouting though ,-)

[The One]

I think its time to press THE RED BUTTON

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CB8QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.85qm.de%2Fup%2FBigRedButton.swf&ei=FzwlTvedJcWp-gbdkJDLCw&usg=AFQjCNE1-BWYc_VdscsxKoHVIZKmTouYGw

[Raven Schwartz]

INTJ - description is accurate

[sunnyrap]

apologies, folks, didn't realize I'd inadvertently did a formatting thing...didn't mean to shout at all...

[PixieDust]

I think its time to press THE RED BUTTON

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CB8QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.85qm.de%2Fup%2FBigRedButton.swf&ei=FzwlTvedJcWp-gbdkJDLCw&usg=AFQjCNE1-BWYc_VdscsxKoHVIZKmTouYGw

haha thats mean! but great at the same time ;)

[161803398]

Female INTJ here

[Star]

It is hard for me to believe that Hillary Clinton and President Kennedy were introverts. I am an INFP and read in the book, Please Understand Me, that we comprised 1% of the population! I figured no wonder it is hard to meet others, lol. All of us are inside working on our computers, in nature, reading, contemplating, meditating etc. Has anyone noticed the fact that most people here are introverts? The E's are out in public, being seen, noticed and mixing it up with people lol.

I found out that Oprah is an ENFP and I thouht, wow! what a difference between an I and an E!!! Also I read that intoverts are born with a highly sensitive arousal system which makes them naturally want quiet, solitude etc,.while extroverts are born with a low excitation level, making them seek a feeling of being alive from others, groups and wherever lots of people are involved. I read that a friend of Bill Clinton popped in on him at home and found him a depressed sort of fellow. I know when I am out with others for most of the day, I need 3 days alone to get my energy back. So I found this an interesting study years ago when I took the test.

Love & Light,
Star

[dourpil]

INFJ - But I had a lot of hesitation regarding several questions. I sometimes wished there was an "It depends" button!

[Russ1959]

Interesting post KT, turns out Im an ENFJ or Idealist!

[soulseeker]

ENFJ here as well. This describes me very well, without wanting to I find myself in the center of a crowd.

But in my quiet moments I am a deep thinker. Thats why I find myself on avalon regularly .

Thank you all for your wisdom and knowledge on so many different topics.

[John Parslow]

Hello Ktlight

An interesting test. Turns out I am an INFJ most unexpected.

Best regards. JP :cool:

I = 78; I = 50; F = 44; J = 44

[White Rabbit]

INFP here.... interesting... thanks!

[Star1111]

Well, another INFJ and they got the career spot on............... well in that I am working towards it. Interesting! Thank you

[Curt]

It is hard for me to believe that Hillary Clinton and President Kennedy were introverts. I am an INFP and read in the book, Please Understand Me, that we comprised 1% of the population! I figured no wonder it is hard to meet others, lol. All of us are inside working on our computers, in nature, reading, contemplating, meditating etc. Has anyone noticed the fact that most people here are introverts? The E's are out in public, being seen, noticed and mixing it up with people lol.

I found out that Oprah is an ENFP and I thouht, wow! what a difference between an I and an E!!! Also I read that intoverts are born with a highly sensitive arousal system which makes them naturally want quiet, solitude etc,.while extroverts are born with a low excitation level, making them seek a feeling of being alive from others, groups and wherever lots of people are involved. I read that a friend of Bill Clinton popped in on him at home and found him a depressed sort of fellow. I know when I am out with others for most of the day, I need 3 days alone to get my energy back. So I found this an interesting study years ago when I took the test.

Love & Light,
Star

I'm also an INFP....

[JoshERTW]

The Mastermind (INTJ) for me... I'm slightly concerned about this as Donald Rumsfeld is listed as this type! But so is Dan Akroyd, and he's pretty cool (not to mention a fellow UFO nut).

Does sound like me... also one of the rare ones at 1-4% of population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INTJ