UFO sighting of giant V shaped craft approaching the sun in NASA/SOHO photos, July 16

[The One]

UFO sighting of giant V shaped craft approaching the sun in NASA/SOHO photos, July 16, 2011.

Date of sighting: July 16, 2011

Location of sighting: Sun

New UFOs seen around the sun again using NASA/SOHO images. This V craft is very interesting. Perhaps it is many UFOs in a V formation rather than being a single craft. Oh, understand this just one side of the V would be equal to 3-4 times the length of earth. Mind boggling isn't it

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I used to think how could they build something so big.After watching the video below it makes you realise how small planet earth actually is.

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[Flasky]

Hah! The same 'V' shape that OH WHAT A COINCIDENCE - also shows ups in...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Nasa-logo.gif

The following is a video that demonstrates the use of this "V" or 'vector' in all space programs logos on Earth...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_VsLF2fGpU

[TargeT]

Tough to call that a compression error.. very interesting!

That has to be several times the size of earth right?

[Ilie Pandia]

Tough to call that a compression error.. very interesting!

That has to be several times the size of earth right?

I agree that "V" shape is not a compression error. (at least not something that would appear in a JPEG format).

The problem I have with these photos is that they are such low quality and none of these anomalies appear in the high resolution photos of other Telescopes monitoring the Sun.

The Stereo telescope seems to be the only one that "notices" those things.

Another point.

You can't make assumptions as to the size of that "object". If you hold your finger close to your eye you can block the sun with it... can you conclude that your finger is bigger than the Sun? Of course not. You need a photo from multiple angles and some distances known so you can work out mathematically the size of the object.

One possibility, in my mind, is that "object" is some sort of dust or debris that got in front of the lens and also caught a lot of the Sun's light.

Also if "Stereo" uses two cameras and merges the photos, that would account for the "v" artifacts that would normally be just lines and squares and dots in JPEG.

Just saying... with the current data and photo quality we should not rush to any conclusions....

[The One]

You can't make assumptions as to the size of that "object". If you hold your finger close to your eye you can block the sun with it... can you conclude that your finger is bigger than the Sun? Of course not. You need a photo from multiple angles and some distances known so you can work out mathematically the size of the object.

You can if you know the mass size of the sun and the measurements of the object.You can take a calculated guess come on i am not saying its exact.



Just saying... with the current data and photo quality we should not rush to any conclusions....

Correct and i am not asking anyone to.

[Ilie Pandia]

You can if you know the mass size of the sun and the measurements of the object.You can take a calculated guess come on i am not saying its exact.

The One, we know the measurements of the Sun: mass, diameter, brightness and so on. But what do we know of the object apart of it's pixel size and "relative pixel" size to the Sun? I still don't see now you can conclude that the "object" is several times the size of the earth, based only on that photo...

[The One]

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he One, we know the measurements of the Sun: mass, diameter, brightness and so on. But what do we know of the object apart of it's pixel size and "relative pixel" size to the Sun? I still don't see now you can conclude that the "object" is several times the size of the earth, based only on that photo

A calculated guess my friend

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[Tane Mahuta]

Yes, it's called the "Vector" it's the symbol of the hidden ones, the true controllers. Their symbol and presence is all around us, but the masses don't see it. It's in most of the corporate symbols.
Fear not fellow Avalonians. Know the truth.,

[zebowho]

People (in general) should REALLY do some simple research on these Stereo ahead and behind images. Here are a few obvious questions that I've never seen anyone ask;

1-Why are these images green?
2-How is the telescope built?
3-What part of the optical spectrum are these images of?

I've written a blog discussing these very things last March and can post a link if wanted but I'll just add a few things here anyway...

Here a couple photos of the telescope's aperture (opening which is facing the Sun) and a diagram of the instruments construction:

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One can clearly see that a metal filter is being used. In fact there are 3, one here at the aperture, one at the focal plane (normally where the eye piece goes but in this case, just in front of the CCD camera) and a coating on the primary mirror. So basically these are aluminum filters (metal). The CCD is, pretty much, pointed at a wall (inside the telescope). The reason these filters are being used is to block out ALL light except for that which is at 19.5nm (195 Angstrom). This also shows the ionization of Iron at a specific temp (approx 1.4m°K). Here's a quote from the EUVI specs pdf:


The EUVI uses thin metal film filters at both the entrance aperture and near the focal place to suppress undesired UV, visible, and IR radiation. We ust two types of filters at the entrance of the telescope (Figure 4): and aluminum-on-polyimide foil on a course nickel grid for the short wavelength quadrants (17.1 and 195 nm), and a single layer aluminum foil on a fine nickel mesh for the long wavelength quadrants (28.4 and 30.4 nm). Both types of filters use a 150 nm thick layer of aluminum to reject light...So in reality, what we see in these green images isn't what we think, 19.5nm is in the ultraviolet range. Something we can't even see with our naked eyes. Even if just considering these images, "Trying to determine what these objects are based on these green images, is like trying to determine what someone looks like based on their shadow" There just isn't enough information in any of these EUVI images to determine UFO's or otherwise, not to mention if these "objects" are close to the Sun or close to the telescope. Which could dramatically change their size based on their position!

Just some food for thought. I've collected several of these images and they are interesting to look at! :) Thanks for the thread The One!

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[conk]

As many have pointed out, the video Moon Rising illustrates the seemingly obsessive use of the flying vector in corporate industry, especially the aerospace groups.

[Ilie Pandia]

The EUVI uses thin metal film filters at both the entrance aperture and near the focal place to suppress undesired UV, visible, and IR radiation. We ust two types of filters at the entrance of the telescope (Figure 4): and aluminum-on-polyimide foil on a course nickel grid for the short wavelength quadrants (17.1 and 195 nm), and a single layer aluminum foil on a fine nickel mesh for the long wavelength quadrants (28.4 and 30.4 nm). Both types of filters use a 150 nm thick layer of aluminum to reject light...

So in reality, what we see in these green images isn't what we think, 19.5nm is in the ultraviolet range. Something we can't even see with our naked eyes. Even if just considering these images, "Trying to determine what these objects are based on these green images, is like trying to determine what someone looks like based on their shadow" There just isn't enough information in any of these EUVI images to determine UFO's or otherwise, not to mention if these "objects" are close to the Sun or close to the telescope. Which could dramatically change their size based on their position!


Hello Zebowho,

Thank you for the pictures and the technical details. I assumed that filters close to opaque are used to protect the sensor but had no idea there are 3 metallic ones. As you say, too lazy to look it up.

Since you seem to know a bit about this subject what is your theory about those artifacts? Can we conclude that they are actual "object" (regardless of the distance and size) or are just noise caused by the aluminum filters?

Just thinking that the light has to pass through 3 metallic filters... hm... now I am not even sure you could see an object around the Sun using Stereo.... unless the object reflects a good deal of UV light.

[The One]

Lets be honest its probably not even the sun we are lookin at.

[Ilie Pandia]

Lets be honest its probably not even the sun we are lookin at.

Ha! I am not discounting that, lol! We actually look at some third hand photos. But since the Sun is the only star close enough to get such pictures we can assume we look at the Sun.

[zebowho]

You're welcome Ilie, glad I can add to the discussion!

I honestly think it would be very tough to come to any kind of conclusion on just these EUVI images alone about "objects", possibly substance (since we know we’re looking at iron) but with "objects" we'd have to assume too much of the information that just isn't within these images and from what I’ve seen, we haven’t any images being taken that are of other areas of the spectrum and no way to “see” additional data to support these anomalies.


We also need to keep in mind that 19.5nm “slice” of the UV side of the spectrum, it’s just a very small slice. Even that isn’t full UV and I completely agree with you, even if an object is emitting UV(or any other part of the spectrum), we still couldn’t see it with Stereo unless it has iron that is ionizing, as part of its makeup!


When I researched for that article, I found myself at the point of having to consider two models which completely leaves open to interpretation, those anomalies. One is the standard (and accepted) model of the Universe; the other is the Electric Universe model (an article that corroborates the EU model (http://www.thesurfaceofthesun.com/running.htm)). Plus a study I found (http://www.livescience.com/6105-scientists-freeze-water-heat.html) (which freezes water with heat and based on electric charge was Very interesting if considering the Electric Universe model)


The links above could be something to consider within this discussion.


We know we are seeing iron being ionized, but is it that specific temp (again that’s 1.4 Million degrees Kelvin, which translates to 2519540.6º F or 1399727º C) or are these iron molecules being ionized by electricity? The Electric Universe model has the potential to put these anomalies close to the telescope as solar particles or dust via electricity, while the standard model pretty much forces those anomalies to within close proximity of the Sun.


I have a few theories depending on what model I’m considering but like everyone else, I have the same access to the data sets and instruments which would make proving them out very difficult if at all. The theories; With the standard model, I think we may be seeing “dark matter or other gaseous substance” where there are pockets or veins of iron molecules that get close enough to the Sun and hit those temps to ionize. With the Electric model, maybe we’re seeing parts of the surface of the Sun being expelled electromagnetically to the outer corona where the temps are much higher. Or even simpler, maybe these anomalies are evidence of cooler/hotter temperature pockets within the corona and the iron is showing that.



I know some will think these theories are as wild as the “UFO” take but one thing is for sure, there is something there and we’ll probably never be able to find out conclusively with the Stereo instruments alone.