Fines of £1,000 for leaving bin out too long

[ktlight]

FYI:

The penalty, being considered by officials in Bedford, would be the largest ever imposed by a council related to the use of bins.
Letters warning of the fines have gone out to a number of homes in the borough who are deemed to be persistent offenders, despite the Government condemning such disproportionate punishments.
Householders have been told they run the risk of huge fines if they fail to remove their bins from the street within 24 hours of them being emptied.
According to the council the move is intended to make the streets safer for blind and partially sighted people who find the objects hazardous when left blocking pavements.
But locals have expressed anger at the proposals, which would see people facing fines 12 times greater than on the spot penalties handed out to shoplifters.
Matthew Hipkin, 37, told the Daily Mail: “It’s an absolute waste of council money and time to have people walking the streets checking if someone has put their bins away.”
But a spokesman for the local authority said: “We have been working with Sight Concern Bedford and the Royal National Institute for Blind People to encourage householders to put their wheelie bins away to help make pavements safer for blind and partially sighted people.
“Where we receive reports of households repeatedly leaving out bins which can cause problems to such people, the council will write to the households concerned and advise that it is an offence for which they may ultimately be fined.”
A £1,000 fine is the largest possible penalty under the 1990 Environmental Protection Act.
But ministers recently criticised authorities who threatened such large fines.

source
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/8646645/Fines-of-1000-for-leaving-bin-out-too-long.html

[Lord Sidious]

Don't panic, there is always a remedy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Provincial_Picture_Houses_v_Wednesbury_Corporation
Use the Wednesbury Principle.

[ViralSpiral]

Don't panic, there is always a remedy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Provincial_Picture_Houses_v_Wednesbury_Corporation
Use the Wednesbury Principle.




So outrageous in its defiance of logic or accepted moral standards that no sensible person who had applied his mind to the question to be decided could have arrived at it.


loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.


Good to have you around!!!

Oh and a big yawn for Big Bruvva!! Have they not heard? The bricks of their 1984 walls are crumblin'

[Lord Sidious]

Don't panic, there is always a remedy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Provincial_Picture_Houses_v_Wednesbury_Corporation
Use the Wednesbury Principle.




So outrageous in its defiance of logic or accepted moral standards that no sensible person who had applied his mind to the question to be decided could have arrived at it.


loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.


Good to have you around!!!

Oh and a big yawn for Big Bruvva!! Have they not heard? The bricks of their 1984 walls are crumblin'

Why do you think I am an enemy of the crown?
I know too much and how to upset their apple cart.

[Lost Soul]

They must be learning from San Francisco.

[GCS1103]

Don't panic, there is always a remedy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Provincial_Picture_Houses_v_Wednesbury_Corporation
Use the Wednesbury Principle.

If you ever decide to relocate to the U.S., we could use another lawyer in our firm...;)

[pickle]

Why do you think I am an enemy of the crown?
I know too much and how to upset their apple cart.

Hmm, now if only I could convince Lord Sid to find me a UK case of unfair collection of debt due to harassment by telephone ;-)

On the subject of the bins - when we first got ours we left them where required for collection ("accessible within 5ft of the property boundary"), but the council workers won't put them back there, they left them all over the pavement when they've emptied them, often blocking it. When I asked the councillor why, she said they weren't allowed on my property. Duh....... Jobsworths and f***wits rule.

[Lord Sidious]

Don't panic, there is always a remedy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Provincial_Picture_Houses_v_Wednesbury_Corporation
Use the Wednesbury Principle.

If you ever decide to relocate to the U.S., we could use another lawyer in our firm...;)

Believe it or not, I am not qualified to practise and I would never enrol.
My power is that I am my own man, I can't be threatened with loss of my bar card.




Why do you think I am an enemy of the crown?
I know too much and how to upset their apple cart.

Hmm, now if only I could convince Lord Sid to find me a UK case of unfair collection of debt due to harassment by telephone ;-)

On the subject of the bins - when we first got ours we left them where required for collection ("accessible within 5ft of the property boundary"), but the council workers won't put them back there, they left them all over the pavement when they've emptied them, often blocking it. When I asked the councillor why, she said they weren't allowed on my property. Duh....... Jobsworths and f***wits rule.

If you have an issue about debt, use the PM function.
Are you a Mancunian?

[Davy]

This one hits home with me about 6 months ago we got a letter in the mail stating that bins can not be set out before 6pm the day before pick up and would have to be removed by 9pm the day of pick up. If they were not first fine will be 50 dollars per incident and up to possible Jail time??!! Although the fine is not as steep as in Bedford I was outraged to be threatened with going to jail over a trash bin. Just one more example of how we are being ever more and more policed!!

[Davy]

Or more like another way for the govt and City to make more money off the backs of the working people!!!

[Tane Mahuta]

WTF!!!......I'm going out to get my wheelie bin right now. Thanks mate you just saved me 3k(at todays exchange rate).

TT

[pickle]

Why do you think I am an enemy of the crown?
I know too much and how to upset their apple cart.

Hmm, now if only I could convince Lord Sid to find me a UK case of unfair collection of debt due to harassment by telephone ;-)

On the subject of the bins - when we first got ours we left them where required for collection ("accessible within 5ft of the property boundary"), but the council workers won't put them back there, they left them all over the pavement when they've emptied them, often blocking it. When I asked the councillor why, she said they weren't allowed on my property. Duh....... Jobsworths and f***wits rule.

If you have an issue about debt, use the PM function.
Are you a Mancunian?

Thanks for the reply L Sid, I am a mancunian by birth, though live further north now. Just about to send a PM to you.....

Thanks again,

Pickle

[ulli]

This one hits home with me about 6 months ago we got a letter in the mail stating that bins can not be set out before 6pm the day before pick up and would have to be removed by 9pm the day of pick up. If they were not first fine will be 50 dollars per incident and up to possible Jail time??!! Although the fine is not as steep as in Bedford I was outraged to be threatened with going to jail over a trash bin. Just one more example of how we are being ever more and more policed!!

Maybe you could get the whole neighborhood together and organize a truck and have twenty full bins dumped in front of Townhall one night, make sure the number plates of the truck are blacked out, and the driver wears a bulletproof vest.

[Lord Sidious]

This one hits home with me about 6 months ago we got a letter in the mail stating that bins can not be set out before 6pm the day before pick up and would have to be removed by 9pm the day of pick up. If they were not first fine will be 50 dollars per incident and up to possible Jail time??!! Although the fine is not as steep as in Bedford I was outraged to be threatened with going to jail over a trash bin. Just one more example of how we are being ever more and more policed!!

Maybe you could get the whole neighborhood together and organize a truck and have twenty full bins dumped in front of Townhall one night, make sure the number plates of the truck are blacked out, and the driver wears a bulletproof vest.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/farmer-who-kicked-up-a-stink-must-pay-the-price-1580740.html

[ulli]

It makes me mad to see banks get away with murder...
but not much longer...
Soon bankers will be renting their space as indoor farmers markets, at $2 per day per booth...
just so they can get some free food from the farmers.

[GCS1103]

Don't panic, there is always a remedy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Provincial_Picture_Houses_v_Wednesbury_Corporation
Use the Wednesbury Principle.

If you ever decide to relocate to the U.S., we could use another lawyer in our firm...;)

Believe it or not, I am not qualified to practise and I would never enrol.
My power is that I am my own man, I can't be threatened with loss of my bar card.




Why do you think I am an enemy of the crown?
I know too much and how to upset their apple cart.

Hmm, now if only I could convince Lord Sid to find me a UK case of unfair collection of debt due to harassment by telephone ;-)

On the subject of the bins - when we first got ours we left them where required for collection ("accessible within 5ft of the property boundary"), but the council workers won't put them back there, they left them all over the pavement when they've emptied them, often blocking it. When I asked the councillor why, she said they weren't allowed on my property. Duh....... Jobsworths and f***wits rule.

If you have an issue about debt, use the PM function.
Are you a Mancunian?

Smart man! The law license is a noose around our necks. Understandably, it affects how we conduct our business, but it also affects our personal lives. Anything that we do outside of the office, can impact on our license and the ability to earn a living in our careers. (except for the "politically" connected attorneys- they can, and do, whatever they want and somehow their license stays up on their walls.)

[Lord Sidious]

Why do you think I am an enemy of the crown?
I know too much and how to upset their apple cart.

Hmm, now if only I could convince Lord Sid to find me a UK case of unfair collection of debt due to harassment by telephone ;-)

On the subject of the bins - when we first got ours we left them where required for collection ("accessible within 5ft of the property boundary"), but the council workers won't put them back there, they left them all over the pavement when they've emptied them, often blocking it. When I asked the councillor why, she said they weren't allowed on my property. Duh....... Jobsworths and f***wits rule.

If you have an issue about debt, use the PM function.
Are you a Mancunian?

Thanks for the reply L Sid, I am a mancunian by birth, though live further north now. Just about to send a PM to you.....

Thanks again,

Pickle

City or United? :confused:





Don't panic, there is always a remedy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Provincial_Picture_Houses_v_Wednesbury_Corporation
Use the Wednesbury Principle.

If you ever decide to relocate to the U.S., we could use another lawyer in our firm...;)

Believe it or not, I am not qualified to practise and I would never enrol.
My power is that I am my own man, I can't be threatened with loss of my bar card.




Why do you think I am an enemy of the crown?
I know too much and how to upset their apple cart.

Hmm, now if only I could convince Lord Sid to find me a UK case of unfair collection of debt due to harassment by telephone ;-)

On the subject of the bins - when we first got ours we left them where required for collection ("accessible within 5ft of the property boundary"), but the council workers won't put them back there, they left them all over the pavement when they've emptied them, often blocking it. When I asked the councillor why, she said they weren't allowed on my property. Duh....... Jobsworths and f***wits rule.

If you have an issue about debt, use the PM function.
Are you a Mancunian?

Smart man! The law license is a noose around our necks. Understandably, it affects how we conduct our business, but it also affects our personal lives. Anything that we do outside of the office, can impact on our license and the ability to earn a living in our careers. (except for the "politically" connected attorneys- they can, and do, whatever they want and somehow their license stays up on their walls.)

Some of the things I have said and done with the system would have had my bar card seized, burnt and the ashed pulverised.
I have even told judicial officers that not being an officer of the court, their rules do not apply to me.
They don't like me advocating in court, nor do they like me assisting people, I am utterly ruthless in the pursuit of justice for those who have been damaged.
One case I did about six months ago, was on the verge of being dismissed.
I got the documents, read em, then redid them correctly for the guy.
The other side folded without any court appearance and offered a peppercorn payment of one dollar each from both defendants.
I pushed them and got that out to $25,000 including all costs.
It turned out it was me versus the general counsel for the firm in australasia and the general counsel for their risk management firm too.
I think it was the equity remedies that did them in.
Did I mention I love equity?

[noxon medem]

maybe it is time to envoke the F-word

- anyway , have it ever occured to you
that god might just be ****ing with us ?
( or you )

Or, on the words of the honourable, late
Bill Hicks :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XioHqAuYLUs&NR=1&feature=fvwp
- another-one


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jim_HBj7Bdk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jim_HBj7Bdk

Alex Jones, anyone .?.
all as well as possible .!.

: )
nm

[GCS1103]

Lord Sid-

How happy I would be, to be able to do and say what I want in Court. I look forward to the day that I don't care to practice anymore and can cause some drama in the courthouse. Several years ago I did just that and I wound up on the front page of the State's newpapers and the Law Journal. Unfortunately I had to appear in front of Ethics, but it worked out fine. The most satisfying part of the whole experience was the termination of a rather insane assistant prosecutor, a sitting Judge being removed and two investigators in the prosecutor's dept. being fired. As a result of this case, the assistant prosecutor sued the Attorney General of my state, the former county prosecutor the new county prosecutor and "the world" for conspiring against him. :crazy: (he lost)
I got great satisfaction from this. I think you would have enjoyed it too.....These were power crazed ass****s that went down the drain with the rest of the filth.

I love equity too...lot's of creativity in that Court.

Goldie