Turns out that the best water on earth isn't on earth at all

[Lord Sidious]

EcoloBlue Atmospheric Water Generators (AWGs) produce unlimited, pure, delicious drinking water from just the humidity in the air. Our machines utilize a cutting-edge, proprietary technology –the most efficient, and energy conscious condensers available today– to extract more moisture from the atmosphere, quicker and more efficiently than any comparable machine.

Yes, it is really the humidity

Believe it or not, Earth's atmosphere contains more water than it's vast oceans. 8 miles straight-up of untapped atmosphere just waiting to contribute to life on Earth. Until now, it was a mere fantasy to harness that unlimited, and renewable natural resource. EcoloBlue AWGs bring the previously unfathomable idea of limitless, sustainable, and portable hydration to the masses.

Water from air


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Plastic, Plastic, Everywhere

Every day humans waste an embarrassing amount of plastic, in the form of bottles, cups and other containers. This doesn't need to be the case. One of the main benefits of producing your own water from the air around you, is you no longer rely on the hundreds of millions of plastic water bottles and cups we use every day.

Un-tether yourself from water lines

As scary as it sounds, our municipal water supplies are not as safe as we think. In every city, around the World, varying levels of harmful chemicals are found in our "tap" water, including everything from arsenic, to prescription drugs and even human hormones. EcoloBlue AWGs let you bypass that completely, cleaning your air in the process.

However, EcoloBlue AWGs can easily be "plugged in" to existing water sources, too. And our unique 12-stage filter process will make sure that every last chemical, down to the microscopic level, is filtered out. Leaving you with only pure, and delicious water. On demand.

No grid required

EcoloBlue's AWGs are designed to work seamlessly with any power source. Including solar, wind, and gas-powered generators. So you can have limitless, pure drinking water anywhere. Any time.

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[crosby]

good morning lord sidious. this is something that i have never heard of. thank you for the information. i am going to look deeper into this as i have been looking for alternative water sources for awile now. i think taking the water from the atmosphere is an ingenious idea. no impurities, no additional health hazards, could be a real find.

thanks again for the info. and have a great day.
regards, corson

[phillipbbg]

Now all they have to do is install them in Africa with solar panels to run them and one of the greatest challenges of fresh drinking water will have been addressed...... instead of throwing money at corrupt officials.....

Like they say ... don't just feed a hungry person... teach them and give them the means to provide food for themselves..... but that does not keep the masses shackled to the rule of the powerful... pity.

[crosby]

Now all they have to do is install them in Africa with solar panels to run them and one of the greatest challenges of fresh drinking water will have been addressed...... instead of throwing money at corrupt officials.....

Like they say ... don't just feed a hungry person... teach them and give them the means to provide food for themselves..... but that does not keep the masses shackled to the rule of the powerful... pity.

could not have said that any better. thank you phillipbbg for your insightful post.
regards, corson

[Lord Sidious]

Now all they have to do is install them in Africa with solar panels to run them and one of the greatest challenges of fresh drinking water will have been addressed...... instead of throwing money at corrupt officials.....

Like they say ... don't just feed a hungry person... teach them and give them the means to provide food for themselves..... but that does not keep the masses shackled to the rule of the powerful... pity.

Check the site, they have industrial level machines that can produce up to 5000 litres per day.

[phillipbbg]

I have Lord Sid..... now a machine gun costs between 1 or 2 thousand dollars add the ammo say 1000 rounds and you got a standard machine.... 1 so called aid workers air fair would buy a machine..... 1 reporter sent to report on the famine for 1 week would buy a commercial machine.... it just goes on and on when you think about it.... the 16 million pounds spent on the UK's bit to have the world cup in the uk that failed by the way would have paid for over 5000 small 3k machines thats 5000 communities with clean drinking water......

Go figure...........

[ktlight]

They would take up the same amount of space that an ordinary refrigerator takes. I would have to wait until they produce something more compact.

[Lord Sidious]

They would take up the same amount of space that an ordinary refrigerator takes. I would have to wait until they produce something more compact.

Not the ones for a home. From what I can see, they would sit on your bench.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU2_vHXjsyE

[phillipbbg]

You could just get a small dehumidifier to collect the water and then run it through a normal filter system like britta.... I have one that is 30cm high by 10cm deep and about 15cm wide.... it produces about 300ml per day.... its only a baby but hey you don't actually need that much pure water if you eat fresh veg and fruits that contain a lot of natural waters...

Any fan forcing air over a condenser will produce the water , the back of your fridge has a tray to collect excess.... it could be filtered and used... I wonder how many commercial refrigeration units are working in these countries that just throw away the water.... actually because they don't clear the water it is one of those places legionairs disease forms... Mmmm possible a bit more thought needed here...lol

[ROMANWKT]

Hi El Cid
I have checked the site, this is very good stuff, the most important inquiry for me was the PH value that this system can create in purity and alkalinity. I could not find it anywhere, even in the PDF supplied for each country???

regards as always to you
roman

[WhiteFeather]

Hi El Cid
I have checked the site, this is very good stuff, the most important inquiry for me was the PH value that this system can create in purity and alkalinity. I could not find it anywhere, even in the PDF supplied for each country???

regards as always to you
roman
Good find Sid! Thanks
Great question Roman re: ph/alkaline! Very important
My question is - Is our air safe to drink?
My thread last week
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25406-Water-What-everyone-Needs-To-Know-What-Your-Drinking-

[Operator]

LOL ... this is not new to me.

I live in the tropics and we have a rain shortage here. It can be dry for months. But since we are on an island there is enough water to be desalinated.

This is all fine but I already thought once that in times of crisis the dependency on this would be too critical.
So I experimented with a homemade parabolic mirror to distill fresh water from sea water using solar power. But I am still a few miles away from the
coastline so that's not very practical too ... So I was thinking how to get the water come to me ?

And then I realized that when you put a cold bottle from the fridge on the table after a while there is almost as much water dripping on the table
as there is in the bottle ... really no kidding. So I found out lots of water is blowing over my head each minute, 24 hours a day.
So the water is there, it's just not condensing (raining).

Now, we're very lucky here to have no lack of wind too. So I am experimenting with a combination of
1. Driving a compressor from a broken airco mechanically with a windmill
2. Generating electricity with a windmill letting my existing airco run for free (have to invert DC to AC for that)
3. Generating electricity with a windmill powering a Peltier element to condense the water directly

The last option is the best one because it doesn't involve moving parts ...
But the first one may turn out to be the most practical one because I can build it with remains of left behind broken stuff.

There is also bad news around this phenomenon:
All cultures have myths about a deluge ... I think it's possible that it rains so much that the earth will be flooded. This might
happen under the right atmospheric circumstances. Are we facing this again soon ? Is this the reason why US authorities are
moving their buildings to higher grounds ? Although the accuracy is debatable of course, Clif High has it in his predictions too ...

[Marsila]

Thanks for the find LS, we need more of this to be available to everyone! so many places build damns to, to provide water for their people, and that is a bad idea, nature and human relationship wise!

[phillipbbg]

Operator have a read of this PDF on Heat exchangers .. http://www.waset.org/journals/waset/v46/v46-104.pdf

Basically to get condensation to occur all you need is a heat exchanger in essence... two fluids of different temp separated by a wall so actually the only mechanical component would be a simple pump to move the fluids.

Also you said you need to change DC to AC for your air con ..... most equipment will run on DC quite easily , I suggest you look into this a little further... if you have any running water on your island you have a power source so long as you can create a fall of over 30cm over a 50 mtr distance... this will give you enough head to run a micro hydro generator, which with a bit of thought could be made from old car parts (the generator and a version of the fly wheel that can have the force of water spinning it to drive the generator...)

Have fun and keep at it....

[Tane Mahuta]

good morning lord sidious. this is something that i have never heard of. thank you for the information. i am going to look deeper into this as i have been looking for alternative water sources for awile now. i think taking the water from the atmosphere is an ingenious idea. no impurities, no additional health hazards, could be a real find.

thanks again for the info. and have a great day.
regards, corson

Suggest you hurry it up!! before they(the controllers) carbon tax it.!! Get your findings out to the wild!!

All the best.

TM

[Operator]

Operator have a read of this PDF on Heat exchangers .. http://www.waset.org/journals/waset/v46/v46-104.pdf


Thanks, downloaded it ... will read it later when I have a bit more time



Basically to get condensation to occur all you need is a heat exchanger in essence... two fluids of different temp separated by a wall so actually the only mechanical component would be a simple pump to move the fluids.


I Know, you only need to influence one of the elements relevant to relative humidity. Temperature is only one of them.
Compressing air and then let it cool will do some of the trick too I think.
I will investigate your idea.



Also you said you need to change DC to AC for your air con ..... most equipment will run on DC quite easily , I suggest you look into this a little further... if you have any running water on your island you have a power source so long as you can create a fall of over 30cm over a 50 mtr distance... this will give you enough head to run a micro hydro generator, which with a bit of thought could be made from old car parts (the generator and a version of the fly wheel that can have the force of water spinning it to drive the generator...)


We only have running water when it rains ... but wind power is abundantly available.
I can use the direct mechanical energy from it. I can also replace the AC motor by a DC one to drive the compressor.
Didn't do that yet however, would maybe be necessary when I have to use 'stored' energy like from car batteries.



Have fun and keep at it....

:thumb: ... I will. That's why I came to the Caribbean in the first place.

[phillipbbg]

Here is a link to making your own wind generator.... seems ok.... http://www.mdpub.com/Wind_Turbine/index.html

And I am jealous .....Caribbean life style... still am heading back to the land of Oz before the end of the year...thank goodness have been going through 5 years of withdrawal symptoms

[conk]

I pour out about 2 gallons of water daily from the garage dehumidifier (very humid in the South). I should start saving it in rail barrels, eh?

[Operator]

I pour out about 2 gallons of water daily from the garage dehumidifier (very humid in the South). I should start saving it in rail barrels, eh?

Well it's a good source to keep in mind ... although the water my not be clean enough to drink it can always be used for lots of other purposes.
Sometimes we tend to forget that water is also needed to maintain some hygiene. Lack of hygiene could spark of all kinds of diseases very quickly.

With some additional treatment you might be able to make it drinkable however. Or you could use it as a barter item may push come to shove.
Question however is of course if you are able to keep it running under difficult circumstances ;)

[norman]

EcoloBlue were advertising this kit on the Alex Jones show last year but I haven't heard their adverts recently.

There is one issue regarding this kind of water source that has to be addressed. Natural water supplies contain a lot of trace mineral elements that are required by our bodies. I don't think this process of condensation will include such mineral elements.

It's a great way to survive a short term crisis but it wouldn't be enough to sustain a healthy life over the long term.

[Ammit]

Norman, I agree with you on that one. Could the water not be passed through a large container of rocks and sand to put the minerals back in?

After all this is what happens in springs..

Nice thread LS.

[Lancelot]

interesting idea and thank you for the information. Im often amazed when I empty my dehumidifier that all the water came from the air in my home.

Would have to say though that IMHO the best water on earth is actually from the earth- in the form of ancient springs and wells provided for us by mother earth and enriched with essential minerals and life force.

(and theres no need buy a machine and plug it in!)

[Marsila]

Would have to say though that IMHO the best water on earth is actually from the earth- in the form of ancient springs and wells provided for us by mother earth and enriched with essential minerals and life force.

(and theres no need buy a machine and plug it in!)

you are right about that being where the best water on Earth is, HOWEVER, so many governments are keeping the water to themselves, rather than allowing it to go into neighboring countries they have issues with. and i won't mention companies dumping waste into water that could reach those good springs and wells.

so many people these days don't live next to such a source to, so if this machine works and the makers find a way to put some minerals in it, it is helpful.

But again like you said the best water source is that offered by nature to those who such a source is available to.