Amy Winehouse death: Neighbour in Camden heard ‘screaming and howling’

[ktlight]

FYI:

People who knew Amy Winehouse in Camden, north London, have been speaking after the singer’s death at the age of 27.

One of her neighbours said he is convinced she died in the early hours of Friday because he heard screaming.

“I think something happened that night. It sounded like some weird sexual game. There was screaming and howling.”

The man, who would not be named, said he was woken by the sound at around 2am that night.

“It just sounded really weird and my son said he heard some kind of drum beating.”

This afternoon he heard one of Winehouse’s friends crying in the house, and realised she was dead.

He believes a friend left her at home after a night out, and returned this afternoon to find her body.

“She’s been quite low-profile and that’s why, when I heard these sounds - screaming - I thought it was unlike her.

“I said to my son ‘Maybe she’s taken a bad drug’.”

He said he saw her about three weeks ago being helped into the house by her minders, and was unable to walk at 10am.

“She couldn’t walk, she could hardly put one foot in front of the other.”

Her cat, Sky, would come into his house for food and to sleep, he said.

Local restaurant owner Ze Silva, 56, said Winehouse would come in as regularly as twice a week.

She saw her last Tuesday and said she had stopped drinking.

“She had nothing to drink. She said to me ‘Darling, don’t give me any alcohol, I’m not drinking any more’.

“She was normal. She would speak to everyone, have pictures taken with the kids, give autographs to the kids.

“She was a good girl, I’m very sad.”

Winehouse would go to the restaurant, A Baia, to play snooker with her bodyguards and would send them to get her takeaway fried breakfasts.

Flowers, teddies and candles had been left next to the police tape blocking off Camden Square.

One card read: “You will not be forgotten by Camden. We all love you and will continue to love you. Your legend lives on.”

source
http://www.london24.com/news/amy_winehouse_death_neighbour_in_camden_heard_screaming_and_howling_1_972931

[etheric underground]

not at all surprised if she was snuffed in a ritualistic murder.
There seems to be an interesting correlation with gaga and people like winehouse that
have worked with her then surprisingly die not long after.
Check out vigilant citizen to get a better understanding on what goes on in the music industry.
GAGA is a puppet for the dark cabal............NO DOUBT!!

[Humble Janitor]

I don't think you can possibly blame a "dark cabal" for everything.

To do so, would be to remove the idea that people can be responsible for their own actions.

She said some pretty racist things towards the end too. Look for a video where she spews every racist stereotype you can think of. It's not pretty.

I'm not buying it.

She had control of her life. She chose to ignore all of the warning signs.

[Mare]

Addiction is an illness not a lifestyle choice. Your comment 'She had control of her life. She chose to ignore all of the warning signs' shows not only a lack of any compassion towards a subject that affects millions of young lives around the world, but a complete lack of understanding too.

[Shakespeare's Foot.]

I don't find this thread appropriate, really. Seems very tabloid and i'm surprised to find it here.

[lysander]

I don't find this thread appropriate, really. Seems very tabloid and i'm surprised to find it here.\

I second that

[grapevine]

I don't find this thread appropriate, really. Seems very tabloid and i'm surprised to find it here.

Not if she straight OD'd no, but if it was a ritualistic murder or something strange, which is implied the text in the post, then yes of course it is appropriate.

[Lord Sidious]

I don't find this thread appropriate, really. Seems very tabloid and i'm surprised to find it here.

How would we know until we analyse the subject?

[Shakespeare's Foot.]

I don't find this thread appropriate, really. Seems very tabloid and i'm surprised to find it here.

Not if she straight OD'd no, but if it was a ritualistic murder or something strange, which is implied the text in the post, then yes of course it is appropriate.

I find this totally ridiculous and in bad taste.

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LS - you call this analysis?

[Lord Sidious]

I don't find this thread appropriate, really. Seems very tabloid and i'm surprised to find it here.

Not if she straight OD'd no, but if it was a ritualistic murder or something strange, which is implied the text in the post, then yes of course it is appropriate.

I find this totally ridiculous and in bad taste.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

LS - you call this analysis?

I haven't studied the accounts yet, so no, I haven't done any analysis.
Do we KNOW for a fact that she wasn't some type of patsy?
I don't.
I know she was a substance abuser, everyone knows that, but without knowing enough, I can't and won't rule out weird events.

[Shakespeare's Foot.]

Yeah, i pretty much KNOW what's happened here. And i think this thread is bollocks.

[Jendayi]

an american actor called Randy Quaid (best known for his role of drunk pilot in Independece day) has already shared a lot about how the entertainment industry kills of artists at the peek of their
career so they may cash in big time due to exploding sales of their products after an artists death...
something fishy is going on....
BDJntoKBkhc

[FraterJames]

an american actor called Randy Quaid ...
That video is very interesting, thank you for posting it.

[jackovesk]

I don't find this thread appropriate, really. Seems very tabloid and i'm surprised to find it here.

I Third that

[Jendayi]

Yeah, i pretty much KNOW what's happened here. And i think this thread is bollocks.
if indeed you KNOW..
please share....

¤=[Post Update]=¤



I don't find this thread appropriate, really. Seems very tabloid and i'm surprised to find it here.

I Third that
many topics here have a high "tabloid" content... which should not be a reason to reject those topics... sometimes truth starts in sensationalism.... the question is... is one able to move beyond that?

[jackovesk]

an american actor called Randy Quaid (best known for his role of drunk pilot in Independece day) has already shared a lot about how the entertainment industry kills of artists at the peek of their
career so they may cash in big time due to exploding sales of their products after an artists death...
something fishy is going on....
BDJntoKBkhc

There is your Analysis in a 'Nutshell'...

Talented, Downtrodden, Alchohol & Drug Addicted singer who could no longer hold a tune...and make the '$moneyGoround$'...

Whether she died through her own Addiction, was a victim of Ritual Sacrifice or was Murdered by the Greedy Record Co. who cares...

She is ultimately responsible for her own Health & she brought it all on herself!

Sad but True..!

[Shakespeare's Foot.]

Yeah, i pretty much KNOW what's happened here. And i think this thread is bollocks.
if indeed you KNOW..
please share....

¤=[Post Update]=¤



I don't find this thread appropriate, really. Seems very tabloid and i'm surprised to find it here.

I Third that
many topics here have a high "tabloid" content... which should not be a reason to reject those topics... sometimes truth starts in sensationalism.... the question is... is one able to move beyond that?


No, i won't. But i'm sure you don't actually need me to really.

This thread isn't just tabloid, it's sleaze tabloid. This is the worst thing that i've ever read on this website.

[The One]

She is ultimately responsible for her own Health & she brought it all on herself
Spot on my friend if it is drug related no one forced her to take them she decided to.

Maybe it is the industry she was in as before getting into the industry she used to go mad if anyone lit up a spliff near her. It’s like if i decided to start smoking again i would be responsible for that no one else i could easily blame someone else or make an excuse for starting again but whole responsibility lies with you. I know it’s sad but that’s the truth

[Davidallany]

Who are other icon musician that died at 27? did they stumble on something that has to do with frequencies? Who controls the music industry?

[The One]

Jimi Hendrix

But thats another story in itself

[conk]

Jimi Hendrix

...and Curt Cobain and Jim Morrison and Janis Joplin and several others.

[dan i el]

re: jimi hendrix http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.com/2008/01/jimi-hendrix-was-waterboarded-to-death.html

[Wings]

FYI:

People who knew Amy Winehouse in Camden, north London, have been speaking after the singer’s death at the age of 27.

One of her neighbours said he is convinced she died in the early hours of Friday because he heard screaming.

“I think something happened that night. It sounded like some weird sexual game. There was screaming and howling.”

The man, who would not be named, said he was woken by the sound at around 2am that night.

“It just sounded really weird and my son said he heard some kind of drum beating.”

This afternoon he heard one of Winehouse’s friends crying in the house, and realised she was dead.

He believes a friend left her at home after a night out, and returned this afternoon to find her body.

“She’s been quite low-profile and that’s why, when I heard these sounds - screaming - I thought it was unlike her.

“I said to my son ‘Maybe she’s taken a bad drug’.”

He said he saw her about three weeks ago being helped into the house by her minders, and was unable to walk at 10am.

“She couldn’t walk, she could hardly put one foot in front of the other.”

Her cat, Sky, would come into his house for food and to sleep, he said.

Local restaurant owner Ze Silva, 56, said Winehouse would come in as regularly as twice a week.

She saw her last Tuesday and said she had stopped drinking.

“She had nothing to drink. She said to me ‘Darling, don’t give me any alcohol, I’m not drinking any more’.

“She was normal. She would speak to everyone, have pictures taken with the kids, give autographs to the kids.

“She was a good girl, I’m very sad.”

Winehouse would go to the restaurant, A Baia, to play snooker with her bodyguards and would send them to get her takeaway fried breakfasts.

Flowers, teddies and candles had been left next to the police tape blocking off Camden Square.

One card read: “You will not be forgotten by Camden. We all love you and will continue to love you. Your legend lives on.”

source
http://www.london24.com/news/amy_winehouse_death_neighbour_in_camden_heard_screaming_and_howling_1_972931

It's too bad this neighbour didn't have a better relationship with her, or he might have gone next door to investigate or telephoned to see if she was alright. He seems to have known her cat better than he knew her.
If I heard screaming going on next door, I would investigate it. I know my neighbours ..... I speak to them ..... I have their telephone numbers.
She had some problems, clearly seen by many and indicated in her astrology chart .... but it's so sad that no-one 'close'? to this woman was able to help her.
Apart from her drug and drinking problems, she was also thin and bulimic too which places a lot of stress on the heart.

27 is the age of our Saturn return. It explains why so many 'icon' musicians have gone to the grave at this age.

What a waste .... what a shame. I hope her soul is at peace now.

[ktlight]

Yeah, i pretty much KNOW what's happened here. And i think this thread is bollocks.
if indeed you KNOW..
please share....

¤=[Post Update]=¤



I don't find this thread appropriate, really. Seems very tabloid and i'm surprised to find it here.

I Third that
many topics here have a high "tabloid" content... which should not be a reason to reject those topics... sometimes truth starts in sensationalism.... the question is... is one able to move beyond that?


No, i won't. But i'm sure you don't actually need me to really.

This thread isn't just tabloid, it's sleaze tabloid. This is the worst thing that i've ever read on this website.

Did someone force you to read it?

[Shakespeare's Foot.]

[/QUOTE]

Did someone force you to read it?[/QUOTE]

I'm really unsure of how to reply to such a childish comment.

[Arrowwind]

Yep, Saturn return can get you if you are lost.

The thing of interest about Amy and her death is that she is an icon. She is one that our children look up to. She is one who stands on stage with Grammy. She is the one who had great success and terrible spiritual failure.

She is the lost soul of our collective consciousness. ... so we wonder about her and her fate... for she is the dark side of us all .. and had dwelled in a region of shadow where many of us have freed ourselves from and where many others of us wonder about, and yet others, are still lost in.

[Moemers]

Didn't she just collaborate with Lady GaGa?

[Anno]

I don't find this thread appropriate, really. Seems very tabloid and i'm surprised to find it here.

I'm disappointed but not suprised. Rats get in everywhere. It's all about the reptilians and satanists for some because that's how they make their money. You can't really blame them for jumping on this to promote their cause. I can only pity them and hope one day they realise they're working for the darkside they claim to be against.

[Donna O]

Sheesh! Some people walk on very moral high ground! FYI Amy was a drug addict yes, but did you know she was one of the friendliest girls you can get in the fame game. She was mostly kind and good humoured under extreme stress (Paparazzi) and always herself. What you saw is what you got unlike so many who are ‘setting an example for our kids’ with their diva fits, fake lives, undeserved success and highly materialistic world.

If nothing else, Amy’s demise will show kids what happens when addictions spiral out of control. That is as newsworthy as the latest conspiracy theory so why shouldn't it be here? We are not above such things.


There but for the grace of God go I……………….

[etheric underground]

What people forget is that the music industry takes in talented, money makin, sensitive individuals
(Sensitive, as in artistic left brainers that are generally more prone to addictions)
And they surround them with nothing but drugs, alcohol and sex.. All the requirements to
control and snuff out with an easy alibi if like Amy she is already seen as an addict and a waste of there money.
Come on people. I have friends and family in the midst of this industry and the persuasions and freebies and peer
pressure would wear majority of young impressionable, sensitive souls down.
Yes, Amy had choices in her life... But they were heavily doused by the evil music barons that manipulate the playing field.
To those that find this offensive, I ask you to question why this makes you offended
Is it because we are talking about someone who has past??
If that is part of your concern than you are looking at thisd game from the wrong perspective.
We are not trying to slander or offend rather find answers to how and why humans become so affected by
this reality that we become drug addicts or alcoholics or sex fiends, it is all higher learning for us all.
If we dont question the tough stuff like Amy winehouses scenario how are we to teach the kids coming through who hold these
affected celebrities on a pedestal the difference between happiness and getting high.

[ghostrider]

if we don't share ideas or insights we won't grow. shouldn't we be able to discuss anything if not here where?

[Anno]

if we don't share ideas or insights we won't grow. shouldn't we be able to discuss anything if not here where?

Whilst I totaly agree with you, we also need discernment. When people bend stories to their own ends, use manipulation techniques and propogate discussions that only lead to fear, you have to take a step back and question their motives. Beware the wolf in sheeps clothing.

http://www.silver-investor.com/charlessavoie/images/cs_may05b.jpg

[Beloved]

I third it! It has no place on this forum whatsoever! With all due respect, could you not discuss this on sites where other posters would be interested? Namaste.

[Black Panther]

There is also a '27 club'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club#Musicians_usually_included_in_the_27_Club

The thing is we'll never find out the thruth about all the suspicious cases of died artists, actors etc.

It's said talented people are being used as puppets.

A picture of her a long time ago:

http://www.maxfarquar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/amy-winehouse-before-drugs.jpg

If you didn't want to read another post in this thread you're too late now :p

[ktlight]

Ok, here's a list of suspicious deaths in the 'entertainment' industry:

Kurt Cobain
'Mama' Cass Eliott
Keith Moon
John Lennon
Brian Jones
Marc Bolan
Natalie Wood
James Dean
Sal Mineo
Tupac
Notorious Big
Bob Marley
Brittany Murphy
River Pheonix
Phil Ochs
Jim Morrison
Pamela Morrison
Peter Tosh
Gram Parsons
Brian Epstein
Mal Evans (ex-Beatles roadie/confidant, gunned down by the man who helped cover up in the RFK hit)
Roni Chasen (Hollywood agent)
William Holden (was best man to Ronald and Nancy Reagan, died in the year Reagan was elected, and one week before his girlfriend's co-star at the time, Robert Wagner's wife Natalie Wood was to die in mysterious circumstances herself, with Wagner implicated in events)
John Belushi
Brad Renfro
Marilyn Monroe
Michael Jackson
Brandon Lee
Jimi Hendrix
Michael Hutchence
Dennis Wilson
Sharon Tate
Beatrice Dunne
Elvis Presley
Jayne Mansfield
Judy Garland
Sid Vicious
Nancy Spungen
John Bonham
Sonny Bono

[Shakespeare's Foot.]

Sheesh! Some people walk on very moral high ground! FYI Amy was a drug addict yes, but did you know she was one of the friendliest girls you can get in the fame game. She was mostly kind and good humoured under extreme stress (Paparazzi) and always herself. What you saw is what you got unlike so many who are ‘setting an example for our kids’ with their diva fits, fake lives, undeserved success and highly materialistic world.

If nothing else, Amy’s demise will show kids what happens when addictions spiral out of control. That is as newsworthy as the latest conspiracy theory so why shouldn't it be here? We are not above such things.


There but for the grace of God go I……………….

I found the post to be innuendo and gossip. And I don't find that newsworthy, no. It didn't even allude to anything worthy or - as you say - for people to be careful about addictions spiraling. It was decidedly Murdoch territory and i thought we were above that, yeah. I hoped that might be one of the reasons why the alternative media was becoming more important.

And i don't know if you're first sentence was aimed at me - i genuinely don't know - but, no, i don't walk any moral high-ground. That's not what i'm about at all.

And ktlight, if you're reading this, this isn't about you. I've thanked you a few times in the past and i think you do a lot here. I just didn't like this one.

[torchwood]

I know she did with Tony Bennet. (in regards to the Lady GaGa question)

The girl smoked A LOT! Be it cigs or crack etc. Her doctor warned her of emphysema in the recent past. It's really sad, she had a pretty good voice but I wasn't a huge fan. I did like a couple of her songs to set the record straight. However, I do not see a conspiracy here. What I see is an addiction and addictions can kill you. According to what I heard from doctors is that when you have an addiction like hers it takes about 8 years of said abuse and it will kill you.
Seeing her addiction started around the age of 19 and died at 27 it makes sense to me.

[Lisab]

Dead pop stars equal big money. I wouldn't be surprised if her record company stood back during her decline, or at least encouraged it somewhat so there's a conspiracy there maybe. I was lucky to catch her at her best. She walked on stage opened up and we all gasped. Amazing voice. RIP Amy x

[Midnight Rambler]

I just happen to come across this article. Shameless to say the least.

Link (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/204597/Gaga-to-play-Winehouse/)

[grapevine]

OMG - how obscene ......

[Darla Ken Pearce]

On this list are entertainers who died of gunshot and knife wounds like Sharon Tate, Sal Mineo. They belong on a "murdered" list instead of combining them with merely suspicious. Murder leaves little doubt here that other perps were involved more of less openly. As far as suspicious ~ like Michael Jackson ~ many are subjects of their own abuses. Privilege, power and money rather than being a blessing turned into a curse. Elvis, for instance, and many others had the big bucks to get into all kinds of trouble that most of us will never be tempted with in quite the same manner.

Michael having money and the ability to hire his own doctor at $150,000 per month to write unlimited prescriptions at his beck and call ~ well, his own excesses caught up with him. Stop and think about this for a moment. How many of us could do something like this to feed an addiction of pain killers and other meds? Know anyone who has a IV drip to knock themselves into oblivion each and every night? Had he been poor, he'd probably be alive. Beat up and burnt around the edges but breathing and living under a bridge or something much safer or not. To blame Michael, however, is not acceptable when we can blame the enabler instead and a jury will decide the fate of the doctor as that trial wraps up soon and there are no winners here.

I don't know but the money, fame, and being in the lime light are recipes for abuses and disasters. It's a sorrowful thing.

Many young people who choose these celebrities as icons and want to be like them should study how miserable most of them were on a day-to-day basis and how fleeting is stardom. What does one do when the crowds stop cheering you? Entertaining provides a "natural" high but for many this is not enough and it is open for enhancement and excess. Since we get attached, we often look for something sinister to explain what happened to make these shocks to OUR BELIEF SYSTEM acceptable. Placing blame on thin air if necessary. I though Robert Wagner had something to do with Natalie's drowning but she had been drinking, was unhappy. over-stressed, over-tired and these are elements that do not mix well with water, unsteadiness and being drunk and out of it. It wasn't possible in my mind that she may have held some responsibility for her own death. This child star having such a horribl e and nasty ending wasn't acceptable to me. Robert was a better idea to my heart. Just look at that beautiful face, how could she drown?

Special rewards like becoming an icon and buckets of money bring a special stewardship and responsibility with them and not every star can handle it. No matter how talented someone is ~ they can always screw it up and ultimately knock themselves out for good. Don't discount a person's own responsibility to rise above their own excesses. We came here to experience the good, the bad, and the ugly, plus everything in between and we just choose different ways to go about it and overcome whatever comes our way. We each also share a little of the guilt in that we raise them up into stardom and all is interconnected in the end, so that when they fall, we hold a share of that and suffer from the very loss of them in our world.

[ktlight]

When you are a performer, it takes a long time to come down off the high that you get from your audience. MJ was an insomniac. His only resolution was from the services of a technician, eg a qualified doctor. He could, of course, have gone underground for the medication but he chose to hire a doctor for that doctor's knowledge. So he paid for protection from adversity from his condition. MJ's value is very much more since his death, his publishing included the Beatles catalogue. This was the case in each of the Club 27, including Amy Winehouse. Jimmy Hendrix's estate is valued at more than £30m today for instance.

[Black Panther]

I found this article about Amy Winehouse:
http://www.sicksadworld.info/news/tag/robertjohnson/

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I'm reading the latest book of David Icke and there he talks a lot about
the influence of the Black Sun Saturn. In the video for “Back to Black"
of Amy there is a lot of symbolism referring to Saturn / Satanism.

Those psychopaths worship Saturn and in astrology the Saturn return
is said to influence the life of someone when they turn 27, 28, 29 or 30.
That's why the club of 27.