James Gilliland and Ralph Ring - Contact has begun July 13, 2011

[Maia Gabrial]

This is an outstanding interview with Ralph and Marsha Ring.

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[Jake]

Awesome, I was just looking for something fun and interesting to watch. Thanx. Jake. :)

[Teresa]

Beautiful. Just what I needed right now. Thanks for posting this Maia.

[Maia Gabrial]

I think Ralph and Otis (and the other scientists working with them) may not have known what they'd created. Their saucer was a spiritual device that raised a person's vibration. How cool is that? They were working with magnetism, not electromagnetism. And it sounds like it was a teleportation craft, too....
The scientists that he's working with now are trying to recreate this craft because they must know how valuable such a device could be, especially now....
Better than a stargate, if you ask me....

[ClandestineDisclosure]

Hi Maia, This is my first post at Avalon. I am a member of one of Ralph Ring's Pods -- 'The Design Group'; and, am the videographer documenting the progress of the OTC-X1 craft's redesign and reconstruction. Like Ralph, I am not a scientist. I am a technician. Otis T. Carr was not a scientist either. With the exception of maybe one Pod member, the other members are not scientists, either. I wanted to address some of your insights and share with everyone where our heads are at as we move forward. The information I am about to share comes after spending weeks with the designers and having many hours of face-to-face conversations with Ralph and Marsha Ring. The following is more-or-less a summary of their guiding beliefs:

Everything is in motion and is comprised of energy. Magnetism is the glue that 'holds' everything together. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Love is energy. Energy is consciousness. Consciousness is required to operate the craft. You are energetic consciousness, as is the craft. The 'on' switch is the mind...not the brain. The craft's design follows sacred geometry and is perfect in every way. Those who are aiding in the birth of the craft must be consciously focused during construction -- working from their hearts -- or it won't work.

The OTC-X1 was a teleportation craft. It did not fly. For more information, please view this video (not sure whether I have permission to do this yet; but, will give it a go. If it doesn't show up below, please search YouTube for 'Ralph Ring Interview - Parts 1 and 2' ):

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Peace

[mojo]

Wow great video...thank you so much for the information presented. The discussion seems to support a few hypothesis in mind. Observation of the craft appears to look organic with a transparent membrane and a vascular sytem. So hearing that the craft was an sentient being and that it was almost a relationship I truly understand this. Also the explanation of the large faceted crystal helps explain what I filmed twice powering up onboard. I submit below two clips as supporting evidence. One is public and the other unlisted [P.S. - now both are public - Paul.] The unlisted one for today only to show my appreciation of what was shared in the video. The unlisted clip shows a luminescent being moving and peering out towards the camera. There also seems to be more solid looking beings onboard. I wonder if it's possible to maintain a solid 3-D body and still be on-board such a multidmensional craft? There also appears to be more than one type of ET present here. Thanks again and I'm going to challenge myself with the new information you provided me and perhaps I will be able to understand more.

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EDIT; I replaced the former unlisted clip below with one of the public clips on my channel.
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[pyriel]

Wow great video...thank you so much for the information presented. The discussion seems to support a few hypothesis in mind. Observation of the craft appears to look organic with a transparent membrane and a vascular sytem. So hearing that the craft was an sentient being and that it was almost a relationship I truly understand this. Also the explanation of the large faceted crystal helps explain what I filmed twice powering up onboard. I submit below two clips as supporting evidence. One is public and the other unlisted. The unlisted one for today only to show my appreciation of what was shared in the video. The unlisted clip shows a luminescent being moving and peering out towards the camera. There also seems to be more solid looking beings onboard. I wonder if it's possible to maintain a solid 3-D body and still be on-board such a multidmensional craft? There also appears to be more than one type of ET present here. Thanks again and I'm going to challenge myself with the new information you provided me and perhaps I will be able to understand more.


I would think they have some tech to keep a 3D body intacted in other dimensions. I know an interview with Alex Collier, he said the Andromedans had to put a belt on him to keep him in a 3D frequency or something like that. i dont quite recall the reason.

[ClandestineDisclosure]

The membrane of the craft, as it was built in the late 1950's, was made of sheets of T6 aluminum. There are only two moving parts - close examination of the drawings will reveal them. The Utrons were mounted to allow them to free turn if needed; but, their rotation was not an original design requirement of the successfully tested craft. The Utrons were also made of aluminum (the interview goes into more detail).

Regarding consciousness - conscious energy - a relationship...the gist I'm getting is that one's focused intent determines the craft's operation and destination. To say there is a relationship may not be far off the mark. The OTC-X1 was found by a witness (as a result of an FOIA request?) back in the early 1980's. It was found charred due to an attempt to convert it into an armed scout ship. Apparently, the tests did not go well. It seems magnetic energy (or perhaps consciousness) would not foster an operable environment for mounted weapons.

As I mentioned in a previous post, and as Ralph mentions in his interview, the craft does not fly. It hovers...then (and the following information I have concluded from my conversations with Ralph)...due to it's vibratory state (level of vibrational frequency) cannot remain in 3d. It instantaneously transports to the desired location.

Ralph has also made comments regarding an aura or glow (I think purple in color) when the craft operates. The small models which were successfully tested and remotely flown (not in a radio-controlled sense of understanding) around Apple Valley were seen by witnesses, including James Gilliland himself. James describes seeing the glow of the craft.

Regarding your question about whether it's possible to maintain a solid 3-D body and still be on board such a multidimensional craft, I assume your query is about the craft appearing in your video; otherwise, I don't know; and, Ralph by his own words can't recall the OTC-X1 'flight' because the brain can't handle it. If you want to learn more, check out Ralph's website. Next week, I shall be posting an update on the progress of craft / free-energy device construction and tests...complete with pictures of components (approved for release by the design group and Ralph Ring).

Peace

[Maia Gabrial]

Dear ClandestineDisclosure,
Your posts are so inspiring! I'm thrilled that there are people trying to get this technology back. To me, it sounds as though it's a spiritually higher advanced technology; and it's something that could change life as we know it. This more than anything else.
I have this fantasy about developing a device for cars that would make them levitate and/or fly without the need for anything else. Secretly, I'd install them in as many cars as I could, old, new, crappy, whatever shape they're in; so that no one would be able to prevent it from making its way into everyone's life. I'm willing to bet that things will change for the better. And it would be a wake up call for TPTW....
Unfortunately, I'm no scientist either.....

Thanks for working with Ralph and the others.....Great luck to you! May you all succeed!

[ClandestineDisclosure]

Ralph Ring 'Pod' Update August 1, 2011
Again, I am attempting to post a video. If the link doesn't work, or the video doesn't appear, please search YouTube for 'Ralph Ring 'Pod' Update August 1, 2011'
http://youtu.be/kTRsYsXV62A
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This video shows pictures of the first of the craft's components to be fabricated. After posting this, I heard from the US Design Pod asking me to come up to shoot some of the tests. I am looking forward to seeing that! If they're successful, they'll have made me a believer. For now, I sit on the fence, observe, and report.

Peace

[daledo]

ClandestineDisclosure here is the video. Just copy the web address of the video and insert it into the insert video icon next to the insert picture icon. Don't try to use the share link on youtube. It doesn't seem to work on here.

Edit ViralSpiral you beat me to posting the vid lol, guess I got to be quicker :)

[mojo]

Hi Daledo,
A flower of life icon....nice....:)
PS: It was interesting how he tied sacred geometry into the discussion. I wish he did a little more too...it would have been nice

[Ria]

Thank you for this thread and all the contributions and well-come Clandestine Disclosure to this site.

[ClandestineDisclosure]

Thank you for the tip. So that I understand -- and I'll try this next time -- all I have to do is wrap the video's 'alphabet soup' string of characters with the YouTube tags, and it'll work?

[ClandestineDisclosure]

Hi Daledo,
A flower of life icon....nice....:)
PS: It was interesting how he tied sacred geometry into the discussion. I wish he did a little more too...it would have been nice

If you have any specific questions, please let us know; otherwise, I reckon I can try to incorporate a bit more information regarding sacred geometry in my next update. The designers and Ralph place a high emphasis on it. I'm hearing from them that there's no question about whether it will work. They believe. By applying natural law and sacred geometry to the design and making (birthing) it perfectly with positive conscious focused intent, the craft has no other choice but to work. The conviction with which I hear this time and again is palpable.

http://www.rexresearch.com/carr/1carr.htm
Regarding the Utron, look at it. From the top, it's a perfect circle. From the side, it's a perfect square. Otis T. Carr, in one document, shows the Utron in its orbit on the craft, as being elliptical. Follow the above link (it's the same one near the beginning of the video) to download a copy of the kit plans. They're about half-way down the page. They are little different from the patent insofar as not being mounted to the ground; and, the cross-section drawing of the plans makes it easier to see the various parts of the craft and how the two parts rotate. The design group has also made some modifications to the Utron for the purpose of making a free-energy device. The inner assembly of the craft is attached to the central accumulator (the large hollow utron in the middle) which is affixed to the spindle with bearings so it can rotate. That inner assembly, which rotates clockwise between the upper and lower ribs (the support structure for the shell of the craft), also has the outer solid utrons mounted to it. The outer utrons pass through the field magnets which are mounted to the inner hull of the craft. The hull, also attached to the center spindle with bearings, rotates counter-clockwise (anti-clockwise). The outer Utrons are mounted to trunion bearings (above and below the central assembly) at a 45 degree angle. The Utrons are not fixed in position; but, are permitted to free-wheel. In other words, there are no motors making the utrons spin. Becuase of the overall shape of the craft, power (vortex energy) is accumulated from the aether. Spin-up is instantaneous, as is travel to the destination. The on-switch and controls is consciousness.

Hope this helps.

Peace

[42]

I have felt Ralph Ring to be sincere since the first video Camelot did... however in the spirit of due diligence here is what Wiki has to say about OTC. Note the 14 year jail term for fraud... Comments people?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_T._Carr

[42]

I have felt Ralph Ring to be sincere since the first video Camelot did... however in the spirit of due diligence here is what Wiki has to say about OTC. Note the 14 year jail term for fraud... Comments people?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_T._Carr

Sorry for the bump folks, but this thread intrigues me and I'm hoping someone out there can help provide some clarity. I find the Ralph Ring story to be fascinating, particularly as it is now endorsed by James Gilliland. But when you look in to the story from the perspective of background checking and discernment some controversy becomes apparent. Much of the amazing story that Ralph relates is based on the work and theories of Otis T Carr. Here's my question: Did Carr in fact serve part of a 14 year jail term for fraud as a result of a 1961 conviction? or did he not? The credibility of the whole story in my opinion hinges on OTC's credibility.

[Ethereal Blue Being]

amazing video amazing couple

[giovonni]

note - James post this on his newsletter today :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivewO2BVZHo&NR=1

[ClandestineDisclosure]

Credibility can easily be destroyed by one person with an agenda and an intent to do so. A negative / false claim can be publicized about a person; and, long after that person has been cleared, the residue of the false accusation lingers. As you discern the truth about this whole story, consider that Otis was well aware that the very publication to which he was granting interviews was not always supportive. Also consider for moment that if the powers that be did not want that technology to come out, they would do all in their power to prevent it, up to and including the confiscation of the craft, which they did. As to whether Otis T. Carr went to jail, I shall ask Ralph whether he knows about that and report back here. In the meantime, I would invite all whom wish to learn whether this technology is real to follow my updates as we recreate the OTC-X1. The next video update will be in a couple of weeks -- near the time that the free energy device (UTRON / ACCUMULATOR) is ready for testing. I reckon we shall know soon enough whether the Pod's modified design of the UTRON has merit. Our intent is that once the design / technology is found to be true, the designs shall be protected so that it may then be given away to benefit everyone who is ready for it. In the end, the work we are doing is not strictly about the craft; it's about consciousness. http://clandestinedisclosure.com

[42]

Credibility can easily be destroyed by one person with an agenda and an intent to do so. A negative / false claim can be publicized about a person; and, long after that person has been cleared, the residue of the false accusation lingers. As you discern the truth about this whole story, consider that Otis was well aware that the very publication to which he was granting interviews was not always supportive. Also consider for moment that if the powers that be did not want that technology to come out, they would do all in their power to prevent it, up to and including the confiscation of the craft, which they did. As to whether Otis T. Carr went to jail, I shall ask Ralph whether he knows about that and report back here. In the meantime, I would invite all whom wish to learn whether this technology is real to follow my updates as we recreate the OTC-X1. The next video update will be in a couple of weeks -- near the time that the free energy device (UTRON / ACCUMULATOR) is ready for testing. I reckon we shall know soon enough whether the Pod's modified design of the UTRON has merit. Our intent is that once the design / technology is found to be true, the designs shall be protected so that it may then be given away to benefit everyone who is ready for it. In the end, the work we are doing is not strictly about the craft; it's about consciousness. http://clandestinedisclosure.com

Thanks and respect... as i said earlier i find Ralph to be sincere and spiritual. I completely resonate with the work being about consciousness ... its all we have as spiritual beings. Please thank Ralph for his dedication and purity. My concern about OTC is, i hope, balanced and appropriate from the perspective of truth seeking. No offence intended.

[ClandestineDisclosure]

Before Ralph Ring went to work for Otis T. Carr, Otis asked him whether he was OK with being an outlaw. Ralph asked Otis what sort of criminals they'd be "What do you mean?" To which Otis replied, "Well, you've got God's Law and you've got man's law. You have to pick."

To answer your question about whether Otis when to jail. The answer is, 'yes'.

[42]

Before Ralph Ring went to work for Otis T. Carr, Otis asked him whether he was OK with being an outlaw. Ralph asked Otis what sort of criminals they'd be "What do you mean?" To which Otis replied, "Well, you've got God's Law and you've got man's law. You have to pick."

To answer your question about whether Otis when to jail. The answer is, 'yes'.

Thanks for the background. Looking forward to your updates...

[Dawn]

Default Re: James Gilliland and Ralph Ring - Contact has begun July 13, 2011

I have felt Ralph Ring to be sincere since the first video Camelot did... however in the spirit of due diligence here is what Wiki has to say about OTC. Note the 14 year jail term for fraud... Comments people?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_T._Carr



Beware Wikipedia as a source on anything associated with free energy or advanced technology! They are apparently in line with the news and information blackout on this subject. I have several close friends,who I would class as 'backyard inventors', that have been working in this field for over 20 years. They both study the work of others, work on their own with their ideas, and actively participate in sharing information with others all over the world in this field. They have reported to me that information on successful inventions has been entered into Wikipedia, only to be deleted within 1-2 days. Wikipedia is known in this community to be deliberately censoring information about free energy and devices based upon it. So.... don't trust the link you placed in this thread for reliable information.

[42]

Default Re: James Gilliland and Ralph Ring - Contact has begun July 13, 2011

I have felt Ralph Ring to be sincere since the first video Camelot did... however in the spirit of due diligence here is what Wiki has to say about OTC. Note the 14 year jail term for fraud... Comments people?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_T._Carr



Beware Wikipedia as a source on anything associated with free energy or advanced technology! They are apparently in line with the news and information blackout on this subject. I have several close friends,who I would class as 'backyard inventors', that have been working in this field for over 20 years. They both study the work of others, work on their own with their ideas, and actively participate in sharing information with others all over the world in this field. They have reported to me that information on successful inventions has been entered into Wikipedia, only to be deleted within 1-2 days. Wikipedia is known in this community to be deliberately censoring information about free energy and devices based upon it. So.... don't trust the link you placed in this thread for reliable information.

The salient point here is not really about wiki's credibility... although i accept what you are saying... the point is about Otis Carr's credibility. the cold hard fact is that Otis T Carr was convicted and served time for fraud. As reported accurately by wikipedia and verified by ClandestineDisclosure. Ralph Ring appears to be genuine. OTC is a question mark. That's all.

[Calz]

Anyone bringing out free energy devices has giant neon bullseye plastered on them.

Talking about fraud how about the "legal system". If TPTB/W want you arrested/discredited/taken out ... then it most often happens.

I don't know the details regarding the specific case on OTC. Based on what he was doing raises red flags regarding any charges and/or convictions. Considering what Ralph imparts regarding consciousness, integrity and intent with the work and how that was passed along to the group by Otis Carr that certainly does not "jive" with a fraud conviction.

BTW - great thread :thumb:

Excellent vid and contributions from the pod member :)

[ClandestineDisclosure]

I like where this thread is going. The questions are spot-on. It will be fun to find some answers and challenge the logic presented above. We've got a minor hold-up regarding the matching up of material specifications with suppliers. The estimate I've been given is two to three weeks before the pods will be ready to test their Utron-driven free energy device. Talking to the guys who have hands-on these devices, there's not doubt in my mind that they are working with 100% conviction that it will work.

I viewed the Nikola Tesla @ Flying Saucers video again. I find it interesting that Ralph says the energies aren't necessarily electric; but, vibrational. So in my mind, I wonder what our prototypes will do. Will they create electrical energy measurable by volt-meters and Oscilloscopes; or, will they just sit there...vibrate and disappear; or, just sit there and do nothing? In any case, what would bet the next steps of the Pods? Will they build the entire craft anyway? I believe that regardless of the test's results, they'll plod forward, just as Carr did with his team. Ralph describes their having built all kinds of different models before they got it right; and, when they finally got the models flying around, they had good reason to celebrate.

So, let's entertain some critical thought for a moment by assuming that these devices function as free energy devices -- Tesla's black box -- that may be plugged into your electric panel in your house and used as a power source...or used to drive other loads -- a car; your computer; a camp stove; the refrigerator -- whatever. Then where would that put Carr's credibility? Does he remain damaged goods, along with his ideas? Does a charge and conviction of fraud alone impeach one's ideas on free energy?

Let's assume the test fails. Will the test's results serve to support or impeach Carr's assertions? Personally, I'm of the ilk that regardless of our Pod's test results, the former has little-to-nothing to do with the latter. I say test the designs and reveal the data...which I hope to do very soon.

[42]

I say test the designs and reveal the data...which I hope to do very soon.

i'm open minded, supportive and excited to see the results. Good luck with the testing and please keep us closely updated.

[ClandestineDisclosure]

you can count on it. If there is a span of time that I am not active, it means nothing is happening and / or I am traveling and filming footage related to the documentary. Feel free to contact me at walter@clandestinedisclosure.com.

[ViralSpiral]

Giovanni, that was an absolutely fascinating and convincing video
THANK YOU!

And ClandestineDisclosure, welcome. I look forward to receiving further data. Impeachment seems a futile "deviation" in these changing/disclosing times ;)

[ClandestineDisclosure]

And ClandestineDisclosure, Impeachment seems a futile "deviation" in these changing/disclosing times ;)

I reckon so...l used that word twice in a few sentences, didn't I? I need find another word. As long as I poked my head in here, I'll share a little - provide an exclusive update.

I just finished up a 2.5 hour pod conference call with the design group, Ralph and Marsha. We are a loving family with a common purpose; so, it 's clear to me why it's difficult for us to get off the phone...and it's great! Anyway, I am thrilled with the prospects that the Pods hold for our collective future. A few days ago, I met two new members who both possess powerful talents.

One is a highly magnetic; spiritually energetic; and heart-centered person who complements and reinforces the Pod's consciousness, joy and love. The other brings a broad skill set to the table...offering a balance of science and art...has a wealth of knowledge of sacred geometry as it relates to design; mechanical & systems engineering; and many other valuable talents too numerous to list here. We look forward to connecting him with the design group.

There are more really cool things happening that I am unable to share with you at this time; but, in due course, I will.

Peace, love,

Walter

[Calz]

While we continue to hear about help from "others" it is very gratifying and wonderful to hear that humans are taking some steps necessary to move beyond the chaos when the time comes. What a positive message and energy is coming from Ralph and the pod groups!!!

ClandestineDisclosure, one of the bigger challanges we seem to face, at least in the industrial countries, is the distinct likelihood of the grid going down for a lengthy period due to the combination of the magnetosphere weakening and a strong solar cycle.

Bearing in mind if/when such an event transpires there will only a matter of days before survival mode overtakes the general population(s). Is there anything in place for the *short term* that could address those needs ... at least partially? Is there any infrastructure in place to be able to produce energy devices *without* the grid itself being available as a power supply?

Perhaps I am asking/hoping for too much here ... but would be interested in your reply if you are able (have permission) to answer.

Thanks (again) for all you are doing.

Cal

[Flash]

One of the best video I have seen conjugating science, spiritual beingness, and heart vibrations to achieve better living altogether. Excellent, lets us posted on what is going on.

[Carmen]

This is the most important and interesting thread on Avalon at the moment IMO.

[Calz]

This is the most important and interesting thread on Avalon at the moment IMO.

Agreed.

I have planted a few "seeds" (and links to here) in other threads.

Very important message going on here.

[ClandestineDisclosure]

...one of the bigger challanges we seem to face... the distinct likelihood of the grid going down for a lengthy period...
Is there anything in place for the *short term* that could address those needs ... at least partially?

Cal,

Thank you for your questions. Allow me to preface my response with the following. The past few years has been one heck of a spiritual roller coaster ride for me. I've had contact experiences...one where I received a gift beyond measure; and, the benefits have been awesome. The trap I am trying to avoid is falling into the position where I become all preachy. Nuh-uh. Not gonna do it. I left the Catholic Church sooo many years ago because one man tried to tell another man...this or that...about God.

So, at the risk of sounding churchy or preachy...or even 1960's Hippie... :o ...here is my response.

We all have a choice with regard to the challenges you mention. We chose not to vote for disaster with our minds; and, we chose not to feed the fear-monster. We use a heart-centered approach in all we do. We simply create. We chose to recognize that focusing on the what-if scenarios puts fear in our hearts; and, fear is useless, except to paralyze us and undermine the project.

Peace, love,

Walter

[Star]

Thank you Maia for this wonderful thread and video...I had not heard of Ralph before and loved all the videos. I love his energy also....


Love & Light,
Star

[Billy]

Thank you for this amazing thread, And Clandestine the thank you button cannot express my appreciation for your inpute. Bless you.

[Carmen]

Clandestine, over the years most of the free energy inventors and their inventions have been bought off and done away with by the PtW (powers that Were). But here is lovely Walter still going strong although maybe not producing again, just waiting? Would I be correct in this? My question is: are those inventors and inovators who have advanced/expanded their consciousness being protected either by a spiritual heirachy or their own spiritual beingness.? Steven Greer wrote about this in his book. I have the feeling that so much is just waiting in the wings to explode onto the world stage when the timing is right and in the mean time they are being protected somehow to be able to deliver their gifts to humanity.

[ClandestineDisclosure]

Clandestine, over the years most of the free energy inventors and their inventions have been bought off and done away with by the PtW (powers that Were). But here is lovely Walter still going strong although maybe not producing again, just waiting? Would I be correct in this? My question is: are those inventors and inovators who have advanced/expanded their consciousness being protected either by a spiritual heirachy or their own spiritual beingness.? Steven Greer wrote about this in his book. I have the feeling that so much is just waiting in the wings to explode onto the world stage when the timing is right and in the mean time they are being protected somehow to be able to deliver their gifts to humanity.

Carmen,
Thank you for your comments and questions.

My production is a developing story; therefore, I am waiting for certain events to transpire (such as successful tests and funding - ;) ). While I wait, I seek out other witnesses to help support Ralph's story. I'm onto one witness now whom - with their permission - I may be interviewing sometime this month. This person has indeed been waiting in the wings; and, I know there are more 'witnesses' and innovators out there. Anyway, that doesn't mean I would be able to immediately release the interview. Certain things may have to occur before I can do that -- I don't know -- we'll see.

Regarding your question about protection by a spiritual hierarchy or one's spiritual beingness, the premise assumes we face some kind of danger from which we require spiritually-provided protection. (I'm just trying to understand your question, here; and determine the best way to answer it.) I could tell you that I've been told a few times that I am being protected. However, I can't say with any degree of certainty whether this is true. Again, I'd have to buy into being in danger in order to buy into being protected, right? Anyway, I wonder how they can see this, and I can't; so, allow me to provide an answer that I consider to be more practical.

Personally, I prefer not to start down the path to the dark side -- "...Fear leads to anger. Anger lead to hate..." etc. (Thank you Yoda and George Lucas). I can identify nothing in my life since I've started this project that leads me to believe we are under any kind of threat - supernatural or otherwise; and, I'll tell you that Ralph - who's lived with this for a lifetime - kinda blows it off, saying he's used to it...what ever 'it' happens to be. Perhaps for me this ignorance of perceived danger propagated by the Internet, books, and urban lore is an element of self protection? I say, 'Why create something you don't want?' I've mentioned in a previous response that we are a heart-centered family. We choose not to put any energy into fear. Trust me when I say this. Bliss is far superior to fear.

Regarding being bought-off -- It ain't gonna happen. Provided what we're building and testing actually works, (and the designers say it has no other choice but to work) the highest priority of what we are doing is to benefit all of humanity. For those who want it, they can have it. For those who want to design and build one, I'd suggest that you pull some heart-centered friends together, get a copy of Otis T. Carr's 'Dimensions of Mystery' from Ralph's website and decode it by learning about Sacred Geometry. Read Walter Russell's work; and, I might even suggest that you look at David Wilcock's latest YouTube video on the Source Field. He presents many things that are consistent with the things that Ralph and the designers talk about. Then design and build your own craft; and, let us and the world know how you're progressing. You may find that by the time you build one, you may not need it. Bottom line: There are too many people out there working on this stuff to buy them off.

Peace, Love,

Walter

[Carmen]

Yes, I understand not buying into/creating anything to be protected from. The 3d reality and the controllers/manipulators of it are very threatened by the whole idea of free energy and have done all they can to stop it. Obviously now, they cant. But up till now they have or we would have had it on board early last century curtesy of Tesla. Seems to me that now all the ideas, prototypes and inventions are like water building up in a temporary dam about to break through. To me the protection is the higher consciousness and the service to others of the inventors. What say you?

[seko]

This is one of the things that all of us have been waiting for.
Free energy and the break of the chains that holds the majority in this beautiful world.

Would love to create something like this in the future and share it.

Thank you clandestine disclosure and everyone on this thread.

Will watch the interviews and learn as much as possible.

[ClandestineDisclosure]

The 3d reality and the controllers/manipulators of it are very threatened by the whole idea of free energy and have done all they can to stop it. Obviously now, they cant. But up till now they have or we would have had it on board early last century courtesy of Tesla. Seems to me that now all the ideas, prototypes and inventions are like water building up in a temporary dam about to break through. To me the protection is the higher consciousness and the service to others of the inventors. What say you?

Carmen,

Regarding the build-up of inventions about to break through, time will tell. I'll be here to show how we progress. Ultimately, I want to show you a video that proves the prototypes work...which will likely require a trip down-under to make that happen.

Regarding 'higher consciousness' and inventor's 'service to others' constituting protection, or one being protected because of those two things, now we start delving into belief systems. These kinds of questions have the potential of starting us down a path of debate. My answer to such a question will believable to some and incredible to others; because, each of us possess different sets of spiritual experiences, right? I will frame my answer by first informing you that I have had very significant (not-quite-but-almost spontaneous) Kundalini activation and a subsequent clearing that kicked my posterior region and lasted 6 hours. I then started having insignificant little visions that have come true. I've contacted my spirit guide only twice. I have had a contact experience (another experience that surprised me, by the way - a bi-location) where I met some folks who granted a gift beyond measure; and I never wanted to leave; AND, please allow me to take this opportunity to say that I do NOT channel messages...at least none that I'm aware. ;) All of the preceding statements are true; however, not everyone reading this will understand what bearing any of it has on the question. To me, it's everything. A few years ago, none of this stuff would have meant anything to me. "Just show me the flying saucers!", would be my primary concern. Show me how they work. Prove it! etc. Only the person walking in my shoes...sitting in my chair pecking at this keyboard...can know that what I say is true. I wanted absolute proof of the spiritual world; and, boy did I get it in spades; however, I'm also of the ilk that unless others have had similar experiences, my answer -- my claims of spiritual experiences -- may be accepted or rejected. Therefore, I must carefully consider the weight my spiritual beliefs have on the question before answering. (By now, I've probably lost half the audience, some of you are likely screaming "ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION, ALREADY!" ;)

To me, my experiences are unquestionable; and, I am eternally grateful for the gift that has been bestowed upon me - for my activation - for the love and bliss I have in my heart - for knowing its source; however, for the reasons / rationale I've already provided -- my refusing to see a threat and refusing to channel energy to the fear monster -- there's nothing in my experience which supports the supposition that protection is 'higher consciousness' and inventor's 'service to others'...at least, not yet anyway. How's that for an answer. And, HEY...I'd challenge anyone else reading this to try answering Carmen's question. It's a good one. What say y'all?

Don't get me wrong, by now you've to know I'm totally on board with with energy is love is consciousness; but, I'm sorry...the whole protection factor associated with it, I honestly don't know.

[Carmen]

You sort of sound like a politician!!!LOL Yes, I understand personal experience of the spiritual realm. It cannot be adequately explained, it can really only be experienced. Anyway, keep up the good work. And, welcome to down under. I live next door in NZ.

[ClandestineDisclosure]

You sort of sound like a politician!!!LOL Yes, I understand personal experience of the spiritual realm. It cannot be adequately explained, it can really only be experienced. Anyway, keep up the good work. And, welcome to down under. I live next door in NZ.

A Politician? My father would be so proud. :doh:

Thank you,

Walter

[Thrasher1218]

Considering the normal methods of discrediting anything the runs afoul of the mainstream hierarchy - especially if it has any military application - it's surprising that they didn't accuse him of pedophilia.

[Inelia]

Fantastic information, thanks for posting the video.

[ClandestineDisclosure]

For anyone who's interested, I've posted two new albums in my profile which contain behind the scenes pictures of the interviews that James Gilliland and I did with Ralph and Marsha Ring. I've also posted some still images of the UTRONS - integral parts of the free-energy device and the craft.

[Sierra]

To me, my experiences are unquestionable; and, I am eternally grateful for the gift that has been bestowed upon me - for my activation - for the love and bliss I have in my heart - for knowing its source; however, for the reasons / rationale I've already provided -- my refusing to see a threat and refusing to channel energy to the fear monster -- there's nothing in my experience which supports the supposition that protection is 'higher consciousness' and inventor's 'service to others'...at least, not yet anyway. How's that for an answer. And, HEY...I'd challenge anyone else reading this to try answering Carmen's question. It's a good one. What say y'all?

Don't get me wrong, by now you've to know I'm totally on board with with energy is love is consciousness; but, I'm sorry...the whole protection factor associated with it, I honestly don't know.

I'd say the shift is upon us. :becky:
Sierra :wave:

[ViralSpiral]

Love the orbs :)

[DianeKJ]

Great thread! quick bump up so I can keep up to date with it all.
Thanks,
Di

[ClandestineDisclosure]

Just a quick update here. I'll likely include some of this stuff on my next video update; so, y'all reading this get to hear it first.

RALPH RING is still being asked "Where's the craft?" I reckon this should be expected, as the more and more people learn about the OTC-X1, chances are they simply are unaware of the whole story...and that's fine. I guess it can get a little annoying at times? The Design Groups plans are to first do a kind of proof of concept. Build a free-energy device based on the accumulator (UTRON); and, build a prototype scaled down model of the craft. This takes time; but, the Design teams are very ambitious in their completion goals. If you think you're excited at the prospect of having real man-made flying saucers, you should hear the conviction and excitement in the voices of the Design Group members. So, thank you everyone for your patience...again...if you missed it before...Ralph does not have an underground lair with hundreds of these craft parked and waiting. The US Government confiscated the only functional full-sized craft - the OTC-X1 - and essentially buried it. There is more to this story; but, you'll have to wait for the Documentary.

SACRED GEOMETRY - The Design Groups wanted me to stress again the absolute importance of Sacred Geometry in the design of this craft.

FREE ENERGY - just an observation of mine that when I speak to folks about Free Energy, I've noticed that they're kinda stuck in this energy paradigm. They believe that without power lines and people paying for power, there would be no economy. what we need to help people see is that if they don't have to spend a large chunk of their salary on power, gas, fuel, petrol, electricity, they won't be enslaved. The planet would be cleaner, right? Isn't that what we want? I read or heard somewhere that the percentage of oil used for energy isn't near as much as the percentage used for manufacturing products. How do you like them apples? So, this odd concern over whether the economy would suffer if we didn't pay for energy doesn't make sense. Consider the ease of travel, too. Instantaneous transportation from point A to point B of you, me, mom, dad, sis, your cheerios, Starbucks coffee, etc. No more trucks. No more trains. No more planes, unless, of course we WANT them. You can still have your hot-rod or low rider or beater truck. Some of want Corvettes...and some of us want flying saucers. It's not a big deal or a threat to anything. It's just a shift.

FILMMAKER NETWORKING - I met some folks tonight who may be able to assist me in getting funding; however, it involves some legal gyrations, contracts, and a garden variety of rights, and an apparent cyclical web of promises. I'd really rather get this thing funded from a grass-roots effort; but, that isn't working so far. I may have to swim with the sharks to get this thing produced and distributed. In the meantime, I prepare for my next trip.

[ClandestineDisclosure]

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The latest information on the pod's activities.

[MargueriteBee]

Outstanding thread!

[ClandestineDisclosure]

I spoke to the design group a few hours ago. It appears that they may meet their Free Energy (FE) device test date goal after all. One of them described an interesting event to me where they were discussing how the device would be assembled. The one holding the UTRON got a little tingle (zapped, shocked) while another was holding the materials in close position (or in contact with?) the UTRON to demonstrate how it would be assembled and tested.

Was this simply an electrostatic discharge akin to the kind you get when you drag your feet on carpet and touch a door knob; the product of an overactive imagination; wishful thinking; or, is it something else? I asked. They were standing on tile. You be the judge. I certainly will be when go film the tests next month.

[ClandestineDisclosure]

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The latest update on the Pod's activities.
Status update on:
Free Energy prototype construction
Circular foil craft model (flying saucer model) construction
Ralph Ring meeting with another group that is constructing saucers
Southern California Power outage
Pictures of the model craft being built

[Calz]

Looks like a Pod update from ClandestineDisclosure's site:

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[Maia Gabrial]

Confiscation=theft

These updates are so exciting! These guys have my heartfelt appreciation....

[ClandestineDisclosure]

Looks like a Pod update from ClandestineDisclosure's site:


Yes, that was a Pod update; and, I've got a couple more posted out there from October 1st and 3rd. It's about time to create and post another one, soon. For now, I'll post a few lines here as a pre-pod-video update.

The Designer received a donation recently, which is allowing him to continue on the construction of the prototype. The funds received, while welcome and will allow him to fabricate the outer UTRONs and C-Magnets, it only takes him that far; and, he will have to wait for another infusion of cash to continue his work. All things being fair and equal, he believes that he should be able to complete the craft -- AH -- sorry, I can't say -- I'll just say soon. (Yea, I know...it's almost as bad as following weekend serial at the movies...you have to keep returning to see what happens, right? Oh wait, that was a dated analogy.) While the UTRONs are being fabricated, tests are being conducted on the electro-magnetic field coils in various configurations.

The docudrama production is taking a serious turn. I had been working towards packaging and selling copies of the YouTube videos in an effort to raise funds to produce and distribute the docudrama; however, I don't have a large enough audience, and I needed some help. I've been in meetings with some people over the past few weeks; and, as of today, I've entered into an agreement with some key people from Hollywood who bring the knowledge and expertise needed to create, package, and distribute a high quality production to both domestic and international markets. I've been in communication with Ralph. Unlike other unnamed productions where he was featured with maybe ten minutes of exposure which didn't really get his message out there, this one will! We want a compelling, entertaining story that also communicates the message of consciousness. As such, we will be working directly with Ralph on script approval. More on this later.

The Renewable Energy unit testing is paused until the engineer and tech return from vacation.

Peace